Those of the hard right persuasion whom don't realise they are hard right ... this may help you get your little hard right wired brains around your hard right position.






Far-right, extreme right, hard right, radical right, and ultra-right are terms used to discuss the qualitative or quantitative position a group or person occupies within right-wing politics. Far-right politics may involve anti-immigration and anti-integration stances towards groups that are deemed inferior and undesirable.[1] At the most extreme, far-right movements have pursued oppression and genocide against groups of people on the basis of their alleged inferiority.[2] Far right politics commonly includes authoritarianism, nativism, racism and xenophobia.[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics

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Napoleon complex

____ wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 11:41am:

Those of the hard right persuasion whom don't realise they are hard right ... this may help you get your little hard right wired brains around your hard right position. Far-right, extreme right, hard right, radical right, and ultra-right are terms used to discuss the qualitative or quantitative position a group or person occupies within right-wing politics. Far-right politics may involve anti-immigration and anti-integration stances towards groups that are deemed inferior and undesirable.[1] At the most extreme, far-right movements have pursued oppression and genocide against groups of people on the basis of their alleged inferiority.[2] Far right politics commonly includes authoritarianism, nativism, racism and xenophobia.[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics

You might get more of a response when you admit to being a hard left commie.

progressiveslol wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 1:53pm:

____ wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 11:41am: Those of the hard right persuasion whom don't realise they are hard right ... this may help you get your little hard right wired brains around your hard right position. Far-right, extreme right, hard right, radical right, and ultra-right are terms used to discuss the qualitative or quantitative position a group or person occupies within right-wing politics. Far-right politics may involve anti-immigration and anti-integration stances towards groups that are deemed inferior and undesirable.[1] At the most extreme, far-right movements have pursued oppression and genocide against groups of people on the basis of their alleged inferiority.[2] Far right politics commonly includes authoritarianism, nativism, racism and xenophobia.[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics You might get more of a response when you admit to being a hard left commie.

Greens' anything but hard

Soft left
Transparent left
Stupid left

but not hard left

____ wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 11:41am:

Those of the hard right persuasion whom don't realise they are hard right ... this may help you get your little hard right wired brains around your hard right position. Far-right, extreme right, hard right, radical right, and ultra-right are terms used to discuss the qualitative or quantitative position a group or person occupies within right-wing politics. Far-right politics may involve anti-immigration and anti-integration stances towards groups that are deemed inferior and undesirable.[1] At the most extreme, far-right movements have pursued oppression and genocide against groups of people on the basis of their alleged inferiority.[2] Far right politics commonly includes authoritarianism, nativism, racism and xenophobia.[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics

Cool....so then most of the Pro-Liberal people here, (and the Liberal Party in general) don't come under the definition of 'Hard-Right'....

Thanks for clearing that up...

here little hard righters,
here piggy piggy piggy

this ways hard right

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gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 2:05pm:

____ wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 11:41am: Those of the hard right persuasion whom don't realise they are hard right ... this may help you get your little hard right wired brains around your hard right position. Far-right, extreme right, hard right, radical right, and ultra-right are terms used to discuss the qualitative or quantitative position a group or person occupies within right-wing politics. Far-right politics may involve anti-immigration and anti-integration stances towards groups that are deemed inferior and undesirable.[1] At the most extreme, far-right movements have pursued oppression and genocide against groups of people on the basis of their alleged inferiority.[2] Far right politics commonly includes authoritarianism, nativism, racism and xenophobia.[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics Cool....so then most of the Pro-Liberal people here, (and the Liberal Party in general) don't come under the definition of 'Hard-Right'.... Thanks for clearing that up...

I'll turn back every boat, says Tony Abbott




A COALITION government will order the navy to turn around asylum-seeker boats and return them to Indonesia in an assertion of Australian border protection, Tony Abbott revealed.


A Hard Right Policy

____ wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 2:08pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 2:05pm: ____ wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 11:41am: Those of the hard right persuasion whom don't realise they are hard right ... this may help you get your little hard right wired brains around your hard right position. Far-right, extreme right, hard right, radical right, and ultra-right are terms used to discuss the qualitative or quantitative position a group or person occupies within right-wing politics. Far-right politics may involve anti-immigration and anti-integration stances towards groups that are deemed inferior and undesirable.[1] At the most extreme, far-right movements have pursued oppression and genocide against groups of people on the basis of their alleged inferiority.[2] Far right politics commonly includes authoritarianism, nativism, racism and xenophobia.[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics Cool....so then most of the Pro-Liberal people here, (and the Liberal Party in general) don't come under the definition of 'Hard-Right'.... Thanks for clearing that up... I'll turn back every boat, says Tony Abbott A COALITION government will order the navy to turn around asylum-seeker boats and return them to Indonesia in an assertion of Australian border protection, Tony Abbott revealed. A Hard Right Policy

It's more an "About Turn" policy rather than Hard Right

Maqqa wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 2:15pm:

____ wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 2:08pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 2:05pm: ____ wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 11:41am: Those of the hard right persuasion whom don't realise they are hard right ... this may help you get your little hard right wired brains around your hard right position. Far-right, extreme right, hard right, radical right, and ultra-right are terms used to discuss the qualitative or quantitative position a group or person occupies within right-wing politics. Far-right politics may involve anti-immigration and anti-integration stances towards groups that are deemed inferior and undesirable.[1] At the most extreme, far-right movements have pursued oppression and genocide against groups of people on the basis of their alleged inferiority.[2] Far right politics commonly includes authoritarianism, nativism, racism and xenophobia.[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics Cool....so then most of the Pro-Liberal people here, (and the Liberal Party in general) don't come under the definition of 'Hard-Right'.... Thanks for clearing that up... I'll turn back every boat, says Tony Abbott A COALITION government will order the navy to turn around asylum-seeker boats and return them to Indonesia in an assertion of Australian border protection, Tony Abbott revealed. A Hard Right Policy It's more an "About Turn" policy rather than Hard Right

It's a hard right hate policy ... out of little Johnny Hard Right Howard's handbook.

____ wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 2:08pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 2:05pm: ____ wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 11:41am: Those of the hard right persuasion whom don't realise they are hard right ... this may help you get your little hard right wired brains around your hard right position. Far-right, extreme right, hard right, radical right, and ultra-right are terms used to discuss the qualitative or quantitative position a group or person occupies within right-wing politics. Far-right politics may involve anti-immigration and anti-integration stances towards groups that are deemed inferior and undesirable.[1] At the most extreme, far-right movements have pursued oppression and genocide against groups of people on the basis of their alleged inferiority.[2] Far right politics commonly includes authoritarianism, nativism, racism and xenophobia.[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics Cool....so then most of the Pro-Liberal people here, (and the Liberal Party in general) don't come under the definition of 'Hard-Right'.... Thanks for clearing that up... I'll turn back every boat, says Tony Abbott A COALITION government will order the navy to turn around asylum-seeker boats and return them to Indonesia in an assertion of Australian border protection, Tony Abbott revealed. A Hard Right Policy

Abbott will be saving their lives by not making them run the labor/greens parties gauntlet.

____ wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 2:08pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 2:05pm: ____ wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 11:41am: Those of the hard right persuasion whom don't realise they are hard right ... this may help you get your little hard right wired brains around your hard right position. Far-right, extreme right, hard right, radical right, and ultra-right are terms used to discuss the qualitative or quantitative position a group or person occupies within right-wing politics. Far-right politics may involve anti-immigration and anti-integration stances towards groups that are deemed inferior and undesirable.[1] At the most extreme, far-right movements have pursued oppression and genocide against groups of people on the basis of their alleged inferiority.[2] Far right politics commonly includes authoritarianism, nativism, racism and xenophobia.[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics Cool....so then most of the Pro-Liberal people here, (and the Liberal Party in general) don't come under the definition of 'Hard-Right'.... Thanks for clearing that up... I'll turn back every boat, says Tony Abbott A COALITION government will order the navy to turn around asylum-seeker boats and return them to Indonesia in an assertion of Australian border protection, Tony Abbott revealed. A Hard Right Policy

And says nothing about all the other sorts of immigration and refugee status claims.....
It only works if ALL immigration and asylum seekers are included...not just one sub-group...

progressiveslol wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 2:18pm:

____ wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 2:08pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 2:05pm: ____ wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 11:41am: Those of the hard right persuasion whom don't realise they are hard right ... this may help you get your little hard right wired brains around your hard right position. Far-right, extreme right, hard right, radical right, and ultra-right are terms used to discuss the qualitative or quantitative position a group or person occupies within right-wing politics. Far-right politics may involve anti-immigration and anti-integration stances towards groups that are deemed inferior and undesirable.[1] At the most extreme, far-right movements have pursued oppression and genocide against groups of people on the basis of their alleged inferiority.[2] Far right politics commonly includes authoritarianism, nativism, racism and xenophobia.[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics Cool....so then most of the Pro-Liberal people here, (and the Liberal Party in general) don't come under the definition of 'Hard-Right'.... Thanks for clearing that up... I'll turn back every boat, says Tony Abbott A COALITION government will order the navy to turn around asylum-seeker boats and return them to Indonesia in an assertion of Australian border protection, Tony Abbott revealed. A Hard Right Policy Abbott will be saving their lives by not making them run the labor/greens parties gauntlet.

by making more drown, risking a longer trip to NZ.

More people dead because of hard right hatred.

____ wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 2:29pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 2:18pm: ____ wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 2:08pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 2:05pm: ____ wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 11:41am: Those of the hard right persuasion whom don't realise they are hard right ... this may help you get your little hard right wired brains around your hard right position. Far-right, extreme right, hard right, radical right, and ultra-right are terms used to discuss the qualitative or quantitative position a group or person occupies within right-wing politics. Far-right politics may involve anti-immigration and anti-integration stances towards groups that are deemed inferior and undesirable.[1] At the most extreme, far-right movements have pursued oppression and genocide against groups of people on the basis of their alleged inferiority.[2] Far right politics commonly includes authoritarianism, nativism, racism and xenophobia.[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics Cool....so then most of the Pro-Liberal people here, (and the Liberal Party in general) don't come under the definition of 'Hard-Right'.... Thanks for clearing that up... I'll turn back every boat, says Tony Abbott A COALITION government will order the navy to turn around asylum-seeker boats and return them to Indonesia in an assertion of Australian border protection, Tony Abbott revealed. A Hard Right Policy Abbott will be saving their lives by not making them run the labor/greens parties gauntlet. by making more drown, risking a longer trip to NZ. More people dead because of hard right hatred.

How many people have died within the last 12 months from the greens policy compared to liberals?

progressiveslol wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 2:31pm:

____ wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 2:29pm: progressiveslol wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 2:18pm: ____ wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 2:08pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 2:05pm: ____ wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 11:41am: Those of the hard right persuasion whom don't realise they are hard right ... this may help you get your little hard right wired brains around your hard right position. Far-right, extreme right, hard right, radical right, and ultra-right are terms used to discuss the qualitative or quantitative position a group or person occupies within right-wing politics. Far-right politics may involve anti-immigration and anti-integration stances towards groups that are deemed inferior and undesirable.[1] At the most extreme, far-right movements have pursued oppression and genocide against groups of people on the basis of their alleged inferiority.[2] Far right politics commonly includes authoritarianism, nativism, racism and xenophobia.[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics Cool....so then most of the Pro-Liberal people here, (and the Liberal Party in general) don't come under the definition of 'Hard-Right'.... Thanks for clearing that up... I'll turn back every boat, says Tony Abbott A COALITION government will order the navy to turn around asylum-seeker boats and return them to Indonesia in an assertion of Australian border protection, Tony Abbott revealed. A Hard Right Policy Abbott will be saving their lives by not making them run the labor/greens parties gauntlet. by making more drown, risking a longer trip to NZ. More people dead because of hard right hatred. How many people have died within the last 12 months from the greens policy compared to liberals?

Greens : Zero

Liberals : Thousands upon Thousands (Pointless Afghan Civil War Interference)

Over 200 asylum seekers drowned in 2011 alone, trying to make the crossing to Australia....

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 2:41pm:

Over 200 asylum seekers drowned in 2011 alone, trying to make the crossing to Australia....

The push factor was a Liberal Party Policy : Afghan Civil War. You guys have blood on your hands.

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 2:41pm:

Over 200 asylum seekers drowned in 2011 alone, trying to make the crossing to Australia....

And if you start turning them back, thereby forcing them to spend longer on the open seas in unseaworthy boats, you can probably add a zero to the end of that figure.

by making more drown, risking a longer trip to NZ.

New Zealand?? WTF, why?

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 2:41pm:

Over 200 asylum seekers drowned in 2011 alone, trying to make the crossing to Australia....

And 350 plus in 2001

( ... though I find it in VERY poor taste to be quoting such figures for political gain)

Over 200 asylum seekers drowned in 2011 alone, trying to make the crossing to Australia....


Well that saved us at least $17,000,000

____ wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 2:08pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 2:05pm: ____ wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 11:41am: Those of the hard right persuasion whom don't realise they are hard right ... this may help you get your little hard right wired brains around your hard right position. Far-right, extreme right, hard right, radical right, and ultra-right are terms used to discuss the qualitative or quantitative position a group or person occupies within right-wing politics. Far-right politics may involve anti-immigration and anti-integration stances towards groups that are deemed inferior and undesirable.[1] At the most extreme, far-right movements have pursued oppression and genocide against groups of people on the basis of their alleged inferiority.[2] Far right politics commonly includes authoritarianism, nativism, racism and xenophobia.[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics Cool....so then most of the Pro-Liberal people here, (and the Liberal Party in general) don't come under the definition of 'Hard-Right'.... Thanks for clearing that up... I'll turn back every boat, says Tony Abbott A COALITION government will order the navy to turn around asylum-seeker boats and return them to Indonesia in an assertion of Australian border protection, Tony Abbott revealed. A Hard Right Policy

Abbott said, "I'll turn back any boat that is seaworthy" or something to this effect.

The fact is that he'd only turn back a couple and the smuggling business would dry up.

What illegal would pay $10,000 if he risked being turned around?

Gillard had the same idea with the Malaysian solution but half-baked (as everything that Labor thinks up).

Well, while the talk was merely talk, the 800 had nearly reached our shores . . .

Would Gillard have stretched the policy to the next 800 in the meantime, we having committed ourselves to accepting 8,000 from Malaysia?

It was an unfunny joke.

What illegal would pay $10,000 if he risked being turned around?


you're full of moronic statements today,mellie, the same person that pays to drown at sea.
Its not illegal to seek asylum,numskull.

Abbott wont turn any boats back because when Howard tried the same thing they quickly learnt to blow holes in their boats at sea putting themselves and Aussie Navy personel in grave danger.
Abbotts politically motivated reffo bashing is self serving, stupid and dangerous.

adelcrow wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 3:18pm:

Abbott wont turn any boats back because when Howard tried the same thing they quickly learnt to blow holes in their boats at sea putting themselves and Aussie Navy personel in grave danger. Abbotts politically motivated reffo bashing is self serving, stupid and dangerous.

Makes sense,Abbott is self serving,stupid and dangerous. I'm yet to have ONE phony tony congo line moron tell me how he will make this a better country.

blackadder wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 3:06pm:

by making more drown, risking a longer trip to NZ. New Zealand?? WTF, why?

Block Australia and desperate people will take even greater risks : i.e same leaky boats, sailing further to NZ. Resulting in greater numbers dead because of Hard Right hate policies.


This whole hard right hate policy would be non existent if the people fleeing persecution where white christians. Hard Right Abbott would be out there, in front of a TV camera, pulling drowning children out ... rather than this way,  having his foot hold down a kid' head underwater, so to drown (metaphorically speaking) 

skippy. wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 3:20pm:

adelcrow wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 3:18pm: Abbott wont turn any boats back because when Howard tried the same thing they quickly learnt to blow holes in their boats at sea putting themselves and Aussie Navy personel in grave danger. Abbotts politically motivated reffo bashing is self serving, stupid and dangerous. Makes sense,Abbott is self serving,stupid and dangerous. I'm yet to have ONE phony tony congo line moron tell me how he will make this a better country.

He is slowly pinching Green policies eg: Denticare
I wonder if he has any of his own?

buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 3:07pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 2:41pm: Over 200 asylum seekers drowned in 2011 alone, trying to make the crossing to Australia.... And 350 plus in 2001 ( ... though I find it in VERY poor taste to be quoting such figures for political gain)

and then Howard came up with a policy that WORKED which the dimwit Rudd reversed and Gillard does nothing about.

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 3:30pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 3:07pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 2:41pm: Over 200 asylum seekers drowned in 2011 alone, trying to make the crossing to Australia.... And 350 plus in 2001 ( ... though I find it in VERY poor taste to be quoting such figures for political gain) and then Howard came up with a policy that WORKED which the dimwit Rudd reversed and Gillard does nothing about.

Yep...they stopped coming here by boat and flew in instead  ;D

Frances wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 2:54pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 2:41pm: Over 200 asylum seekers drowned in 2011 alone, trying to make the crossing to Australia.... And if you start turning them back, thereby forcing them to spend longer on the open seas in unseaworthy boats, you can probably add a zero to the end of that figure.

Depends when you turned the back....
If you turn them back 1/4 of the way into the trip...they only spend half as long at sea...

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 3:41pm:

Frances wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 2:54pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 2:41pm: Over 200 asylum seekers drowned in 2011 alone, trying to make the crossing to Australia.... And if you start turning them back, thereby forcing them to spend longer on the open seas in unseaworthy boats, you can probably add a zero to the end of that figure. Depends when you turned the back.... If you turn them back 1/4 of the way into the trip...they only spend half as long at sea...

So now the Hard Right want a war with Indonesia.

adelcrow wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 3:33pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 3:30pm: buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 3:07pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 2:41pm: Over 200 asylum seekers drowned in 2011 alone, trying to make the crossing to Australia.... And 350 plus in 2001 ( ... though I find it in VERY poor taste to be quoting such figures for political gain) and then Howard came up with a policy that WORKED which the dimwit Rudd reversed and Gillard does nothing about. Yep...they stopped coming here by boat and flew in instead  ;D

actually they came by space shuttle and ring transport (stargate)

Refugees pay $40,000 to come by plane

ASYLUM-seekers are arriving in Australia by air in numbers that dwarf boat arrivals, after paying people-smugglers up to $US40,000, for a package that includes airfares, false passports and forged Australian visas.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/refugees-pay-40000-to-come-by-plane/story-e6frg6nf-1225802705191

____ wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 3:56pm:

Refugees pay $40,000 to come by plane ASYLUM-seekers are arriving in Australia by air in numbers that dwarf boat arrivals, after paying people-smugglers up to $US40,000, for a package that includes airfares, false passports and forged Australian visas. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/refugees-pay-40000-to-come-by-plane/story-e6frg6nf-1225802705191

so what? stick em on a plane and send them back. the sending nation has no right not to accept them.

I see what you're saying, but unlike Thomson's unio-funded card, I am carrying a low rate if interest.

____ wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 3:56pm:

Refugees pay $40,000 to come by plane ASYLUM-seekers are arriving in Australia by air in numbers that dwarf boat arrivals, after paying people-smugglers up to $US40,000, for a package that includes airfares, false passports and forged Australian visas. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/refugees-pay-40000-to-come-by-plane/story-e6frg6nf-1225802705191

Do we want idiots like that??? Paying $40K when they coulda flown in?

Er... well...

They could not have flown in. Boat people pay all that dosh to smugglers because they have absolutely NO CHANCE of coming in legally.

Do you want people who would not be let in legally?

____ wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 2:51pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 2:41pm: Over 200 asylum seekers drowned in 2011 alone, trying to make the crossing to Australia.... The push factor was a Liberal Party Policy : Afghan Civil War. You guys have blood on your hands.

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What about those from other countries where our soldiers are not present?

Such as Sri Lanka?

You Greens are bl'dy liars and a pity you don't stick to protecting the environment instead of taxing
your commo-washed brains with matters beyond your understanding.

How would Australia have fared during WW2 if not for the Americans?

as for the Greens they are a menace to the whole world!

I've no faith in the Labor Party but don't hate them nearly as much as I loathe the Greens, their wind turbines and the fraudulent carbon tax.

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 4:39pm:

____ wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 3:56pm: Refugees pay $40,000 to come by plane ASYLUM-seekers are arriving in Australia by air in numbers that dwarf boat arrivals, after paying people-smugglers up to $US40,000, for a package that includes airfares, false passports and forged Australian visas. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/refugees-pay-40000-to-come-by-plane/story-e6frg6nf-1225802705191 so what? stick em on a plane and send them back. the sending nation has no right not to accept them.

Those who come by air have to produce documentation so we have a fair idea on who they are--

They do not leech on Welfare as do the parasites that come by boat.

That's where the GST is useful. These over-stayers support themselves and that means paying tax on what they buy.

____ wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 11:41am:

Those of the hard right persuasion whom don't realise they are hard right ... this may help you get your little hard right wired brains around your hard right position. Far-right, extreme right, hard right, radical right, and ultra-right are terms used to discuss the qualitative or quantitative position a group or person occupies within right-wing politics. Far-right politics may involve anti-immigration and anti-integration stances towards groups that are deemed inferior and undesirable.[1] At the most extreme, far-right movements have pursued oppression and genocide against groups of people on the basis of their alleged inferiority.[2] Far right politics commonly includes authoritarianism, nativism, racism and xenophobia.[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics

What ever ideological face the Corporate and Political class wants to put on to impose itself over the Sovereign Free Will of the people is corrupt, illegitimate and illegal whether that face is hard left or hard right, it's stained with the same rivers of blood.  I am Lord of my own mind and you have to live with that. http://www.thesmilies.com/smilies/evilgrin/evilgrin0003.gif 8-)

olde.sault wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 8:41pm:

____ wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 2:51pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 2:41pm: Over 200 asylum seekers drowned in 2011 alone, trying to make the crossing to Australia.... The push factor was a Liberal Party Policy : Afghan Civil War. You guys have blood on your hands. --- What about those from other countries where our soldiers are not present? Such as Sri Lanka? You Greens are bl'dy liars and a pity you don't stick to protecting the environment instead of taxing your commo-washed brains with matters beyond your understanding. How would Australia have fared during WW2 if not for the Americans? as for the Greens they are a menace to the whole world! I've no faith in the Labor Party but don't hate them nearly as much as I loathe the Greens, their wind turbines and the fraudulent carbon tax.

These people who complain about a carbon tax on the largest polluters ... yet are silent on the sewage taxes home owners pay and renters pay indirectly.

If we compared the two, people would probably pay more in sewage costs. It's included in all manufactured costs ... all workers and the management have to poop and pee and we the consumers have to pay this passed cost.

Where is your demand to poop in the street, to piss into the wind, and not have to pay cash for this.

olde.sault wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 8:48pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 4:39pm: ____ wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 3:56pm: Refugees pay $40,000 to come by plane ASYLUM-seekers are arriving in Australia by air in numbers that dwarf boat arrivals, after paying people-smugglers up to $US40,000, for a package that includes airfares, false passports and forged Australian visas. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/refugees-pay-40000-to-come-by-plane/story-e6frg6nf-1225802705191 so what? stick em on a plane and send them back. the sending nation has no right not to accept them. Those who come by air have to produce documentation so we have a fair idea on who they are-- They do not leech on Welfare as do the parasites that come by boat. That's where the GST is useful. These over-stayers support themselves and that means paying tax on what they buy.

So they buy false passports and forged visas in their own name. Are you sure. Where you one of them?

They then apply for refugee status in Australia and then are entitled to all the trimming.

So why do the hard right complain about refugees that come by boat and not by plain.

Because they are hard right and this complaining proves it.


Would you also support genocide ... Mr Tony Hard Right Abbott sinking the boats and drowning the people on board?

Turning the unsafe boats back is genocide.

____ wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 5:41am:

olde.sault wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 8:48pm: longweekend58 wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 4:39pm: ____ wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 3:56pm: Refugees pay $40,000 to come by plane ASYLUM-seekers are arriving in Australia by air in numbers that dwarf boat arrivals, after paying people-smugglers up to $US40,000, for a package that includes airfares, false passports and forged Australian visas. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/refugees-pay-40000-to-come-by-plane/story-e6frg6nf-1225802705191 so what? stick em on a plane and send them back. the sending nation has no right not to accept them. Those who come by air have to produce documentation so we have a fair idea on who they are-- They do not leech on Welfare as do the parasites that come by boat. That's where the GST is useful. These over-stayers support themselves and that means paying tax on what they buy. So they buy false passports and forged visas in their own name. Are you sure. Where you one of them? They then apply for refugee status in Australia and then are entitled to all the trimming. So why do the hard right complain about refugees that come by boat and not by plain. Because they are hard right and this complaining proves it. Would you also support genocide ... Mr Tony Hard Right Abbott sinking the boats and drowning the people on board? Turning the unsafe boats back is genocide.

So why don't the boatpeople save themselves all that money and a dangerous sea journey and fly in?
Please tell us, genious, why they prefer the expence and the danger?

Don't bother, Greens.

Soren is incapable of understanding the motivators that drive people to risk their lives. It's not his fault though -he lives a sheltered life and completely lacks any empathy toward those who experience real suffering.

____ wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 5:31am:

olde.sault wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 8:41pm: ____ wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 2:51pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 2:41pm: Over 200 asylum seekers drowned in 2011 alone, trying to make the crossing to Australia.... The push factor was a Liberal Party Policy : Afghan Civil War. You guys have blood on your hands. --- What about those from other countries where our soldiers are not present? Such as Sri Lanka? You Greens are bl'dy liars and a pity you don't stick to protecting the environment instead of taxing your commo-washed brains with matters beyond your understanding. How would Australia have fared during WW2 if not for the Americans? as for the Greens they are a menace to the whole world! I've no faith in the Labor Party but don't hate them nearly as much as I loathe the Greens, their wind turbines and the fraudulent carbon tax. These people who complain about a carbon tax on the largest polluters ... yet are silent on the sewage taxes home owners pay and renters pay indirectly. If we compared the two, people would probably pay more in sewage costs. It's included in all manufactured costs ... all workers and the management have to poop and pee and we the consumers have to pay this passed cost. Where is your demand to poop in the street, to piss into the wind, and not have to pay cash for this.

A meaningless false analogy between two unrelated issues.  You have not made any point. 8-)

____ wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 3:50pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 3:41pm: Frances wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 2:54pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 2:41pm: Over 200 asylum seekers drowned in 2011 alone, trying to make the crossing to Australia.... And if you start turning them back, thereby forcing them to spend longer on the open seas in unseaworthy boats, you can probably add a zero to the end of that figure. Depends when you turned the back.... If you turn them back 1/4 of the way into the trip...they only spend half as long at sea... So now the Hard Right want a war with Indonesia.

Why would that cause a war???
Unless the Indonesian Government ARE the people smugglers.....

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 3:45pm:

____ wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 3:50pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 3:41pm: Frances wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 2:54pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 2:41pm: Over 200 asylum seekers drowned in 2011 alone, trying to make the crossing to Australia.... And if you start turning them back, thereby forcing them to spend longer on the open seas in unseaworthy boats, you can probably add a zero to the end of that figure. Depends when you turned the back.... If you turn them back 1/4 of the way into the trip...they only spend half as long at sea... So now the Hard Right want a war with Indonesia. Why would that cause a war??? Unless the Indonesian Government ARE the people smugglers.....

Indonesians unhappy with Abbott plan


http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/indonesians-unhappy-with-abbott-plan-20120123-1qcta.html

1/4 way is very close to Indonesian territory.

____ wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 5:16pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 5th, 2012 at 3:45pm: ____ wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 3:50pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 3:41pm: Frances wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 2:54pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 2:41pm: Over 200 asylum seekers drowned in 2011 alone, trying to make the crossing to Australia.... And if you start turning them back, thereby forcing them to spend longer on the open seas in unseaworthy boats, you can probably add a zero to the end of that figure. Depends when you turned the back.... If you turn them back 1/4 of the way into the trip...they only spend half as long at sea... So now the Hard Right want a war with Indonesia. Why would that cause a war??? Unless the Indonesian Government ARE the people smugglers..... Indonesians unhappy with Abbott plan http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/indonesians-unhappy-with-abbott-plan-20120123-1qcta.html 1/4 way is very close to Indonesian territory.

Abbott was so concerned about Aussie/ Indonesian relations when it came to supporting the torture of our cattle but it all falls apart when he wants to drown asylum seekers and put our navy personel in danger.

Annie Anthrax wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 8:56am:

Don't bother, Greens. Soren is incapable of understanding the motivators that drive people to risk their lives. It's not his fault though -he lives a sheltered life and completely lacks any empathy toward those who experience real suffering.

What kind of a stupid, dodgy answer is that? If you know why the boatpeople  prefer to spend all that money and risk a dangerous sea journey instead of flying in, say so. If you don't know, say that, or say nothing.

But if all you know is to run up the 'I am sensitive' flag for the nth time, don't. If you are sensitive, be also intelligent. Babbling about your own sensitivity is not the eternal topic.

Quote:

Babbling about your own sensitivity is not the eternal topic.

Comprehension is not your strong point, is it?

I wasn't babbling about my sensitivity, I was babbling about your insensitivity.

And if you can't figure out why an asylum seeker might have to take a boat into Australia rather than a plane, then you have no room to be calling anyone else stupid.

Now I'll have to ignore you until you apologise for being the rude oaf that you are.

Annie Anthrax wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 5:58pm:

And if you can't figure out why an asylum seeker might have to take a boat into Australia rather than a plane, then you have no room to be calling anyone else stupid.

I think you are too stupid or too dishonest to actually say why they are taking the boats rather than buy a plane ticket.

I have figured out that much.

la la la la la.

Annie Anthrax wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 8:48pm:

la la la la la.

That's so you, Miffy.

la la la.

What exactly is the point of this thread?

Soren wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 8:00pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Feb 5th, 2012 at 5:58pm: And if you can't figure out why an asylum seeker might have to take a boat into Australia rather than a plane, then you have no room to be calling anyone else stupid. I think you are too stupid or too dishonest to actually say why they are taking the boats rather than buy a plane ticket. I have figured out that much.

This is stupid. Fancy the lefties having substance. Shame on you Soren for thinking it possible.

I will start it out. Anyone add as you please.

They take the boat and spend more doing and put their lives at greater risk because they:

Have a criminal record
A family member has a criminal record
Trafficking sex slaves
Having family in own country cash out a death insurance

Annie Anthrax wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 8:59pm:

la la la.

Excellent. Only 3 this time.
One day you will know to say nothing when you know nothing.

progressiveslol wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 9:09pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 5th, 2012 at 8:00pm: Annie Anthrax wrote on Feb 5th, 2012 at 5:58pm: And if you can't figure out why an asylum seeker might have to take a boat into Australia rather than a plane, then you have no room to be calling anyone else stupid. I think you are too stupid or too dishonest to actually say why they are taking the boats rather than buy a plane ticket. I have figured out that much. This is stupid. Fancy the lefties having substance. Shame on you Soren for thinking it possible. I will start it out. Anyone add as you please. They take the boat and spend more doing and put their lives at greater risk because they: Have a criminal record A family member has a criminal record Trafficking sex slaves Having family in own country cash out a death insurance

OR

maybe circumstances in their own countries don't allow them time to apply for a passport. Maybe purchasing a plane ticket to Australia from Afghanistan would gain unwanted attention.

These people are fleeing for their lives, remember?

____ wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 5:16pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 5th, 2012 at 3:45pm: ____ wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 3:50pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 3:41pm: Frances wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 2:54pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 2:41pm: Over 200 asylum seekers drowned in 2011 alone, trying to make the crossing to Australia.... And if you start turning them back, thereby forcing them to spend longer on the open seas in unseaworthy boats, you can probably add a zero to the end of that figure. Depends when you turned the back.... If you turn them back 1/4 of the way into the trip...they only spend half as long at sea... So now the Hard Right want a war with Indonesia. Why would that cause a war??? Unless the Indonesian Government ARE the people smugglers..... Indonesians unhappy with Abbott plan http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/indonesians-unhappy-with-abbott-plan-20120123-1qcta.html 1/4 way is very close to Indonesian territory.

the indonesians are unhappy with any plan that doesnt involve us giving them money.

Annie Anthrax wrote on Feb 5^th, 2012 at 9:25pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Feb 5th, 2012 at 9:09pm: Soren wrote on Feb 5th, 2012 at 8:00pm: Annie Anthrax wrote on Feb 5th, 2012 at 5:58pm: And if you can't figure out why an asylum seeker might have to take a boat into Australia rather than a plane, then you have no room to be calling anyone else stupid. I think you are too stupid or too dishonest to actually say why they are taking the boats rather than buy a plane ticket. I have figured out that much. This is stupid. Fancy the lefties having substance. Shame on you Soren for thinking it possible. I will start it out. Anyone add as you please. They take the boat and spend more doing and put their lives at greater risk because they: Have a criminal record A family member has a criminal record Trafficking sex slaves Having family in own country cash out a death insurance OR maybe circumstances in their own countries don't allow them time to apply for a passport. Maybe purchasing a plane ticket to Australia from Afghanistan would gain unwanted attention. These people are fleeing for their lives, remember?

You are talking bollocks.
So it's OK to have a passport and a visa to Indonesia but not to Australia? And when they are safely in Indonesia, they cannot apply for an Australian visa?

Unwanted attention? They are all waived through at Teheran Airport, passports and all, as they board their planes to Jakarta or Koala Lumper.
Have another go if you know what you are talking about, or shush if you don't. Your being a newspaper reading girl wiv feelings is not a sufficient explanation of why they are ditching their passports once they are in Indonesia, or why they are not applying for an Australian visa once they are in Jakarta, numpty.