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General Discussion >> Federal Politics >> Another after another industry going offshore? http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1326228729 Message started by olde.sault on Jan 11th, 2012 at 6:52am |
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Title: Another after another industry going offshore? Post by olde.sault on Jan 11th, 2012 at 6:52am Where is our population growth (with the help of boatpeople) going to find work if our manufacture keeps closing its doors? Isn't it time to reintroduce some tariffs? Time might come when we, Australians, will run into a shortage of the necessities because we are importing more and more from other countries some of which, have political unrest. . . Yes, while our young, welfare recipients having nothing to occupy their leftist-geared brains, roam the streets causing mischief. |
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Title: Re: Another after another industry going offshore? Post by olde.sault on Jan 11th, 2012 at 11:52am olde.sault wrote on Jan 11th, 2012 at 6:52am:
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Title: Re: Another after another industry going offshore? Post by culldav on Jan 11th, 2012 at 12:44pm
Things are becoming very bad, and what the politicians don't tell the mushrooms is when they say new jobs have been created; they also mean the jobs people have left to start other jobs; not just newly created positions out of thin air.
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Title: Re: Another after another industry going offshore? Post by olde.sault on Jan 11th, 2012 at 4:35pm culldav wrote on Jan 11th, 2012 at 12:44pm:
Australia has a lot of problems, water is rationed while rainwater rushes into the sea taking homes and motor vehicles along the way (Q-land floods). People are dying on roads because the roads are not wide enough for today's volume of traffic and birthrate is encouraged, migrants let in by the boatload when our industries are disappearing overseas. In the meantime we are involved in saving whales from the Japs and worrying over gay marriage. What about priorities? |
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Title: Re: Another after another industry going offshore? Post by Deathridesahorse on Jan 11th, 2012 at 4:40pm olde.sault wrote on Jan 11th, 2012 at 6:52am:
Gotta love those free markets, hey, Liberal voters!!????! yehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, nothing but free-markets for me as a crack smoking liberal bean counter! ("HEY DAD, YA GOT ANY BEANS LEFT BUDDY OL' PAL!??!") Bugger the fact economies are complex systems made out of people: I'M A SELFISH LIBERAL CRACK SMOKER!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D [/SARCASM MANIA] |
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Title: Re: Another after another industry going offshore? Post by imcrookonit on Jan 11th, 2012 at 4:45pm
Have been asking this question for ages, and will still ask it. Whats the REAL unemployment number?. :(
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Title: Re: Another after another industry going offshore? Post by corporate_whitey on Jan 11th, 2012 at 5:01pm
At the end of the day the Government is engineering this - they are responsible, they are destroying Australian lives deliberately for their own greed and corruption. 8-)
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Title: Re: Another after another industry going offshore? Post by imcrookonit on Jan 11th, 2012 at 5:15pm
Well here is another 250 jobs going. :(
Two aluminium smelters in the Hunter Valley are set to axe 250 jobs. Norwegian aluminium giant Norsk Hydro is blaming the high Australian dollar for plans to cut production at its Kurri Kurri smelter, with the loss of about 150 jobs. The company says the strength of Australia's currency relative to the US dollar combined with low metal prices has hurt the company Richard Downie from the Australian Workers Union says he has also been told Tomago Aluminium's much larger smelter will cut 100 jobs. :( "At this stage I'm not clear on when that will occur, but the clear difference here is that Tomago are going to maintain their current production," he said. Mr Downie says the jobs lost at Kurri Kurri come on top of 40 positions cut by Norsk Hydro before Christmas. :( He says he believes the latest round of cuts will come swiftly as the company seeks to recoup substantial losses. The smelter has also been struggling to secure a new electricity contract after Labor's former New South Wale treasurer Eric Roozendaal scrapped a deal the company had negotiated with Delta Electricity. Norsk Hydro says it will continue to stay in close dialogue with all affected stakeholders, including employees, unions and the local community. The ABC understands the company is looking to shut down one of its three production lines. The state MP for Cessnock, Labor's Clayton Barr, says the region is facing one of its darkest periods. "This will hit and we also talk about the flow-on effect impacting on potentially five, six or seven or eight other jobs," Mr Barr said. "So if we are talking about 150 jobs directly from the plant. We could be talking about a roll-on effect in terms of trucking contracts, in terms of hairdressers, in terms of hamburger joints, in terms of even the port." :( The Liberal MP for the federal seat of Paterson, Bob Baldwin, says more jobs will go because of the carbon tax. "The Coalition has been very aware of how finely balanced the jobs in the aluminium industry have been," he said. "This is very disappointing news, but I fear it is only the beginning because when this carbon tax is introduced on the first of July it will increase the costs for aluminium manufacturers and therefore we will see more job losses." |
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Title: Re: Another after another industry going offshore? Post by adelcrow on Jan 11th, 2012 at 5:38pm
Why would anyone want low paid unskilled jobs in this country?
Highly paid, skilled jobs are this countries future and anyone that wants less for their children is letting them down. |
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Title: Re: Another after another industry going offshore? Post by imcrookonit on Jan 11th, 2012 at 5:47pm
Why would anyone want low paid unskilled jobs in this country? Not everyone is high skilled are they?. :-?
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Title: Re: Another after another industry going offshore? Post by froggie on Jan 11th, 2012 at 6:30pm
"The Liberal MP for the federal seat of Paterson, Bob Baldwin, says more jobs will go because of the carbon tax."
I wonder how much this sort of scare talk leads to some of these company's decisions. :D |
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Title: Re: Another after another industry going offshore? Post by wildkactus on Jan 11th, 2012 at 7:05pm wrote on Jan 11th, 2012 at 4:45pm:
a lot more then they will tell you, my guess is about double the quoted. |
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Title: Re: Another after another industry going offshore? Post by Deathridesahorse on Jan 11th, 2012 at 7:11pm wrote on Jan 11th, 2012 at 5:47pm:
That's as true as you are always going to have the poor! What is evolution if people aren't encouraged to learn skills!???! |
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Title: Re: Another after another industry going offshore? Post by wildkactus on Jan 11th, 2012 at 7:13pm Lobo wrote on Jan 11th, 2012 at 6:30pm:
Not much, as most of the companies that will be effected by the carbon tax will just pass the costs on. but what the carbon tax will do over time is have an inflationary effect, driving up the cost of living, thus driving up wages thus making industry less competitive with other destination, eg the USA. there are already companies around looking to move their production to the USA as it is starting to become an attractive destination for industry again. |
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Title: Re: Another after another industry going offshore? Post by salad in on Jan 11th, 2012 at 8:01pm olde.sault wrote on Jan 11th, 2012 at 6:52am:
Sit back, relax, put your feet up. Wayne Swan said his 2011 budget would create *500,000 jobs...say it again 500,000 jobs. Don't forget the other dills who keep up the old trope "immigration creates employment." Have a little faith will you. *We weren't told that we would have to buy those jobs with handouts to industries like Ford and Holden. The Greens will also chip in by creating thousands of jobs in the windmill and hot air industries. Australia...you're standing in it. |
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Title: Re: Another after another industry going offshore? Post by olde.sault on Jan 12th, 2012 at 1:12am wrote on Jan 11th, 2012 at 4:45pm:
Certainly not the statistics we're given-- If one works for a few hours during the week, one is taken off the unemployment count. I live not far from Macquarie Fields, a suburb of the unemployed. Many of the older citizens would work if they would be taken on. Then there are wives that would gladly work at weekends at weekday hourly rate but that, is forbidden by our rotten unions. Still and all, the unemployed are too proud to do housework at a reasonable rate so old-aged pensioners squint through dirty windows or topple off chairs washing them. |
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Title: Re: Another after another industry going offshore? Post by olde.sault on Jan 12th, 2012 at 1:16am adelcrow wrote on Jan 11th, 2012 at 5:38pm:
Now, that was a wise thought, Crow! The sort of thinking that has got us into trouble with Dumb Dora at the helm! A person who doesn't make demands and does any job WELL will always find employment and eventually, build himself a house and drive a purring car. |
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