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Message started by corporate_whitey on Dec 15th, 2011 at 4:09pm

Title: 'The Protester' is Time's person of year
Post by corporate_whitey on Dec 15th, 2011 at 4:09pm
Do you agree with Time magazines choice of the Protester as its person of the year?  Personally, I don't want to have to do business with sharemarket capitalism for any reason or support their economy.  The protest movements and innovations such as online trading is taking back the land for the people - do you agree?  I would rather trade with my mate in Hong Kong than Harvey Norman any day of the week. :)




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'The Protester' is Time's person of year


The Protester has been named Time magazine's person of the year, a tribute to those bringing change across the Arab world as well as anti-corporate greed demonstrations in the West.


"There's this contagion of protest," Time managing editor Richard Stengel told NBC television on Wednesday. "These are folks who are changing history already and they will change history in the future."

The shared honour for protesters beat the traditional individual contenders, who included Admiral William McRaven, commander of the US mission to kill al-Qaeda founder Osama bin Laden.

Last year, Time picked Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg, whose competitors included another 21st century communications guru, WikiLeaks maestro Julian Assange.

This time, the list centred on heavyweight political figures such as McRaven, Chinese dissident Ai Weiwei, and influential Republican Congressman Paul Ryan.

There were also an emotional nod for Kate Middleton, who was credited for putting a spring back in the royal family's step with her wedding to Prince William.

"Admiral McRaven captured bin Laden and (Middleton) captured our hearts. They represent people who affected us in one way or another who swayed the conversation - captured our imagination," Stengel said.

But he said that in the end, the selection committee was unanimous in backing street protesters, "the men and women around the world, particularly in the Middle East, who toppled governments, who brought democracy and dignity to people who hadn't had it before".

"We thought 'these dictators are not going to be toppled'. And then these people who risked their lives, risked their livelihoods to go out there and brought about change that nobody had expected.

"It really is a transformational thing and I think it is changing the world for the better," he said.

The Time award, which is purely honorary and dates back to 1927, noted that while the first and most dramatic protests took place in Muslim countries, they inspired demonstrators across the world.

Popular backlashes against economic turmoil and corruption among elites sparked months of large-scale demonstrations in Spain, Greece, Israel and other countries.

In September, the Occupy Wall Street movement began in New York, quickly spreading to other US cities, while now Russia is seeing rare protests by large crowds against election rigging.

"Loathing and anger at governments and their cronies became uncontainable and fed on itself," Time's cover article reads.

A protester at the Occupy DC camp in Washington, Kelly Canavan, said the Time magazine honour was "very exciting".

"It's inspirational. It shows people are paying attention to us, which is what we're hoping for," Canavan told AFP.

"Given how many occupations and how many mass movements there are ... (this) demonstrates that we're gaining a lot of legitimacy."

Time magazine, featuring a cover photo of a female Arab protester, goes on the newsstands on Friday.

"The stakes are very different in different places. In North America and most of Europe, there are no dictators, and dissidents don't get tortured," the cover article wrote.

"Any day that Tunisians, Egyptians or Syrians occupy streets and squares, they know that some of them might be beaten or shot, not just pepper-sprayed or flex-cuffed."


Title: Re: 'The Protester' is Time's person of year
Post by Fireman spam on Dec 15th, 2011 at 4:15pm
This from the magazine who has previously awarded the award to such luminaries as:

Joesph stalin (twice)
Adolf Hitler
Ayatollah khomeini
GWB
Brack Obama
Ben Bernanke

And worst of all, Faecbook inventor (or plagiarist) Mark Zuckerberg.

Title: Re: 'The Protester' is Time's person of year
Post by gizmo_2655 on Dec 15th, 2011 at 4:16pm

... wrote on Dec 15th, 2011 at 4:15pm:
This from the magazine who has previously awarded the award to such luminaries as:

Joesph stalin (twice)
Adolf Hitler
Ayatollah khomeini
GWB
Brack Obama
Ben Bernanke

And worst of all, Faecbook inventor (or plagiarist) Mark Zuckerberg.



Yeah, sad isn't it....

Title: Re: 'The Protester' is Time's person of year
Post by pansi1951 on Dec 15th, 2011 at 4:30pm
I don't read Time magazine, but people do.

Good call getting some publicity out there for the Arab spring and the Occupy movements that are spreading across the world.

It is time for people to stand up to corporate and government greed and corruption.

Title: Re: 'The Protester' is Time's person of year
Post by Grey on Dec 15th, 2011 at 4:49pm
I think the time for protest is past.

I think there's going to be a future and if we want a future we like,  we have to build it, before the shonky builders build one for us. It's pointless to regard the old house and curse it for starting to fall over instead of using the time to build a new one.


Title: Re: 'The Protester' is Time's person of year
Post by cods on Dec 15th, 2011 at 5:06pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 15th, 2011 at 4:30pm:
I don't read Time magazine, but people do.

Good call getting some publicity out there for the Arab spring and the Occupy movements that are spreading across the world.

It is time for people to stand up to corporate and government greed and corruption.




did you say that when the anti CARBON TAX lot marched on Canberra pansi I dont recall.

Title: Re: 'The Protester' is Time's person of year
Post by cods on Dec 15th, 2011 at 5:06pm
Do you agree with Time magazines choice of the Protester as its person of the year?  Personally, I don't want to have to do business with sharemarket capitalism for any reason or support their economy.  The protest movements and innovations such as online trading is taking back the land for the people - do you agree?  I would rather trade with my mate in Hong Kong than Harvey Norman any day of the week.




I do trust you are in charge of your own superfund CW

Title: Re: 'The Protester' is Time's person of year
Post by gizmo_2655 on Dec 15th, 2011 at 5:18pm

Grey wrote on Dec 15th, 2011 at 4:49pm:
I think the time for protest is past.

I think there's going to be a future and if we want a future we like,  we have to build it, before the shonky builders build one for us. It's pointless to regard the old house and curse it for starting to fall over instead of using the time to build a new one.


Truly....just about every time there's a 'century change'...these things appear...

Title: Re: 'The Protester' is Time's person of year
Post by corporate_whitey on Dec 15th, 2011 at 5:42pm

cods wrote on Dec 15th, 2011 at 5:06pm:
Do you agree with Time magazines choice of the Protester as its person of the year?  Personally, I don't want to have to do business with sharemarket capitalism for any reason or support their economy.  The protest movements and innovations such as online trading is taking back the land for the people - do you agree?  I would rather trade with my mate in Hong Kong than Harvey Norman any day of the week.




I do trust you are in charge of your own superfund CW

Oh you mean those super schemes that are collapsing and vanishing under the failure and corruption of the volatility of sharemarket capitalism?  ROTFLMAO ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: 'The Protester' is Time's person of year
Post by gizmo_2655 on Dec 15th, 2011 at 5:43pm

cods wrote on Dec 15th, 2011 at 5:06pm:
Do you agree with Time magazines choice of the Protester as its person of the year?  Personally, I don't want to have to do business with sharemarket capitalism for any reason or support their economy.  The protest movements and innovations such as online trading is taking back the land for the people - do you agree?  I would rather trade with my mate in Hong Kong than Harvey Norman any day of the week.




I do trust you are in charge of your own superfund CW


He doesn't have a 'superfund'....He's on a pension....

Title: Re: 'The Protester' is Time's person of year
Post by cods on Dec 15th, 2011 at 6:06pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 15th, 2011 at 5:43pm:

cods wrote on Dec 15th, 2011 at 5:06pm:
Do you agree with Time magazines choice of the Protester as its person of the year?  Personally, I don't want to have to do business with sharemarket capitalism for any reason or support their economy.  The protest movements and innovations such as online trading is taking back the land for the people - do you agree?  I would rather trade with my mate in Hong Kong than Harvey Norman any day of the week.




I do trust you are in charge of your own superfund CW


He doesn't have a 'Superfund'....He's on a pension....




oh I see, so who pays his pension.?..not some silly govt that depends on share markets and capitalism to make ends meet..surely

I mean even he must realise if capitalism collapses tomorrow.we are all gone including whitey

Title: Re: 'The Protester' is Time's person of year
Post by gizmo_2655 on Dec 15th, 2011 at 6:14pm

cods wrote on Dec 15th, 2011 at 6:06pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 15th, 2011 at 5:43pm:

cods wrote on Dec 15th, 2011 at 5:06pm:
Do you agree with Time magazines choice of the Protester as its person of the year?  Personally, I don't want to have to do business with sharemarket capitalism for any reason or support their economy.  The protest movements and innovations such as online trading is taking back the land for the people - do you agree?  I would rather trade with my mate in Hong Kong than Harvey Norman any day of the week.




I do trust you are in charge of your own superfund CW


He doesn't have a 'Superfund'....He's on a pension....




oh I see, so who pays his pension.?..not some silly govt that depends on share markets and capitalism to make ends meet..surely

I mean even he must realise if capitalism collapses tomorrow.we are all gone including whitey


It's the Government HE hates.....Irony runs really really thick on these boards..

Title: Re: 'The Protester' is Time's person of year
Post by corporate_whitey on Dec 15th, 2011 at 6:32pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 15th, 2011 at 6:14pm:

cods wrote on Dec 15th, 2011 at 6:06pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 15th, 2011 at 5:43pm:

cods wrote on Dec 15th, 2011 at 5:06pm:
Do you agree with Time magazines choice of the Protester as its person of the year?  Personally, I don't want to have to do business with sharemarket capitalism for any reason or support their economy.  The protest movements and innovations such as online trading is taking back the land for the people - do you agree?  I would rather trade with my mate in Hong Kong than Harvey Norman any day of the week.




I do trust you are in charge of your own superfund CW


He doesn't have a 'Superfund'....He's on a pension....




oh I see, so who pays his pension.?..not some silly govt that depends on share markets and capitalism to make ends meet..surely

I mean even he must realise if capitalism collapses tomorrow.we are all gone including whitey


It's the Government HE hates.....Irony runs really really thick on these boards..

The Government pays my pension waiting for me to die because it too corrupt to uphold the justice it claims to represent and compensate me for the organized thuggery and economic aggression it subjected me to in the work place.  It also fears the 2.3gb of evidence I have on my hard drive. :(

Title: Re: 'The Protester' is Time's person of year
Post by darkhall67 on Dec 15th, 2011 at 7:18pm

... wrote on Dec 15th, 2011 at 4:15pm:
This from the magazine who has previously awarded the award to such luminaries as:

Joesph stalin (twice)
Adolf Hitler
Ayatollah khomeini
GWB
Brack Obama
Ben Bernanke

And worst of all, Faecbook inventor (or plagiarist) Mark Zuckerberg.



You think mark zuckaberg is worse than GWB?



Wow.   (you notice i didnt say worse than hitler or stalin?)



Anyway the times person of the year is not meant to be for the BEST person of the year but the most influential or newsworthy.

Hitler , stalin , obama and khomeini et al certianly fitted the bill.


Anyway the awarding of the person of the year to "the protester" is pretty ridiculous and meaningless.

Title: Re: 'The Protester' is Time's person of year
Post by Fireman spam on Dec 15th, 2011 at 8:18pm

darkhall67 wrote on Dec 15th, 2011 at 7:18pm:

... wrote on Dec 15th, 2011 at 4:15pm:
This from the magazine who has previously awarded the award to such luminaries as:

Joesph stalin (twice)
Adolf Hitler
Ayatollah khomeini
GWB
Brack Obama
Ben Bernanke

And worst of all, Faecbook inventor (or plagiarist) Mark Zuckerberg.



You think mark zuckaberg is worse than GWB?



Wow.   (you notice i didnt say worse than hitler or stalin?)



Anyway the times person of the year is not meant to be for the BEST person of the year but the most influential or newsworthy.

Hitler , stalin , obama and khomeini et al certianly fitted the bill.


Anyway the awarding of the person of the year to "the protester" is pretty ridiculous and meaningless.



yeah.  I really don't like facebook.  ;D

Title: Re: 'The Protester' is Time's person of year
Post by longweekend58 on Dec 16th, 2011 at 8:50am
the real value of the Time person of the year award is in retrospect. so many of the choices have been evil  people or non-acheivers getting the awardis like the kiss of death. And this one is shaping up to repeat thier pitiful record. The 'protestor' this year has achevied regime change in two arab countries. Trouble is Egypt replaced one dictaor with a military rule that may never end. Libya has virtually no govt and of course the 'protestor' has acheived the deaths of thousands in Syria.

and the 'occupy' protests have set new records in non-acheievment. they have not a single solitary plan in place other than to sit in tents having sex and killing each other.

Yep,  a PERFECT chocie in keeping withthe truly abysmal chocies of the past.

Title: Re: 'The Protester' is Time's person of year
Post by FriYAY on Dec 16th, 2011 at 11:40am

corporate_whitey wrote on Dec 15th, 2011 at 6:32pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 15th, 2011 at 6:14pm:

cods wrote on Dec 15th, 2011 at 6:06pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 15th, 2011 at 5:43pm:

cods wrote on Dec 15th, 2011 at 5:06pm:
Do you agree with Time magazines choice of the Protester as its person of the year?  Personally, I don't want to have to do business with sharemarket capitalism for any reason or support their economy.  The protest movements and innovations such as online trading is taking back the land for the people - do you agree?  I would rather trade with my mate in Hong Kong than Harvey Norman any day of the week.




I do trust you are in charge of your own superfund CW


He doesn't have a 'Superfund'....He's on a pension....




oh I see, so who pays his pension.?..not some silly govt that depends on share markets and capitalism to make ends meet..surely

I mean even he must realise if capitalism collapses tomorrow.we are all gone including whitey


It's the Government HE hates.....Irony runs really really thick on these boards..

The Government pays my pension waiting for me to die because it too corrupt to uphold the justice it claims to represent and compensate me for the organized thuggery and economic aggression it subjected me to in the work place.  It also fears the 2.3gb of evidence I have on my hard drive. :(


Grow a set and release all your evidence then!


The Arab spring!! LOL, how's that freedom going Arabs? :D

Title: Re: 'The Protester' is Time's person of year
Post by pansi1951 on Dec 16th, 2011 at 3:10pm
Long live people with the tenacity to protest against injustices. Some have given the ultimate sacrifice for their cause, but nothing was ever gained by inaction. These are the true warriors who are not afraid to speak out when something is not right.


Colossal change

“They dissented; they demanded; they did not despair, even when the answers came back in a cloud of tear gas or a hail of bullets. They literally embodied the idea that individual action can bring collective, colossal change,” he said.

The Time award, which is purely honorary and dates back to 1927, noted that while the first and most dramatic protests took place in Muslim countries, they inspired demonstrators across the world.

Popular backlashes against economic turmoil and corruption among elites sparked months of large-scale demonstrations in Spain, Greece, Israel and other countries.

In September, the Occupy Wall Street movement began in New York, quickly spreading to other US cities, while new Russia is seeing rare protests by large crowds against election rigging.

Gaining legitimacy

A protester at the OccupyDC camp in Washington, Kelly Canavan, said the Time magazine honor was “very exciting.”

“It’s inspirational. It shows people are paying attention to us, which is what we’re hoping for,” Canavan told Agence France-Presse.

“Given how many occupations and how many mass movements there are… (this) demonstrates that we’re gaining a lot of legitimacy,” he added.

“Loathing and anger at governments and their cronies became uncontainable and fed on itself,” said Time’s cover article.

“The stakes are very different in different places. In North America and most of Europe, there are no dictators, and dissidents don’t get tortured,” the article said.

“Any day that Tunisians, Egyptians or Syrians occupy streets and squares, they know that some of them might be beaten or shot, not just pepper-sprayed or flex-cuffed,” it added.

Time magazine, featuring a cover photo of a female Arab protester, goes on the newsstands on Friday.

http://globalnation.inquirer.net/20931/the-protester-is-time-magazines-person-of-the-year

Title: Re: 'The Protester' is Time's person of year
Post by longweekend58 on Dec 16th, 2011 at 4:48pm

Quote:
“Given how many occupations and how many mass movements there are… (this) demonstrates that we’re gaining a lot of legitimacy,” he added.


this is the kind of delusion that makes them look stupid. protesting without any alternatives make you look like anarchists or fools - NOT people on a mission.

The 'occupy' lot have precisely NO goals, NO ideas and for most of them, NO job. Protests count when genuine society protests - not the 'usual suspects' (students, hippies and professional agitators)

The arab protesters have a mission and a goal. they even have plans. the 'occupy' lot just plan on doing their usual thing - sitting around doing nothing much at all.

Title: Re: 'The Protester' is Time's person of year
Post by pansi1951 on Dec 16th, 2011 at 7:22pm

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 16th, 2011 at 4:48pm:

Quote:
“Given how many occupations and how many mass movements there are… (this) demonstrates that we’re gaining a lot of legitimacy,” he added.


this is the kind of delusion that makes them look stupid. protesting without any alternatives make you look like anarchists or fools - NOT people on a mission.

The 'occupy' lot have precisely NO goals, NO ideas and for most of them, NO job. Protests count when genuine society protests - not the 'usual suspects' (students, hippies and professional agitators)

The arab protesters have a mission and a goal. they even have plans. the 'occupy' lot just plan on doing their usual thing - sitting around doing nothing much at all.



Obama must be listening to them. He's getting all set up for an invasion from within.

Title: Re: 'The Protester' is Time's person of year
Post by longweekend58 on Dec 18th, 2011 at 6:13pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 16th, 2011 at 7:22pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 16th, 2011 at 4:48pm:

Quote:
“Given how many occupations and how many mass movements there are… (this) demonstrates that we’re gaining a lot of legitimacy,” he added.


this is the kind of delusion that makes them look stupid. protesting without any alternatives make you look like anarchists or fools - NOT people on a mission.

The 'occupy' lot have precisely NO goals, NO ideas and for most of them, NO job. Protests count when genuine society protests - not the 'usual suspects' (students, hippies and professional agitators)

The arab protesters have a mission and a goal. they even have plans. the 'occupy' lot just plan on doing their usual thing - sitting around doing nothing much at all.



Obama must be listening to them. He's getting all set up for an invasion from within.


If I were to publically denounce you as stupid you couldnt even sure for defamation.

Title: Re: 'The Protester' is Time's person of year
Post by qikvtec on Dec 18th, 2011 at 6:21pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Dec 15th, 2011 at 6:32pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 15th, 2011 at 6:14pm:

cods wrote on Dec 15th, 2011 at 6:06pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 15th, 2011 at 5:43pm:

cods wrote on Dec 15th, 2011 at 5:06pm:
Do you agree with Time magazines choice of the Protester as its person of the year?  Personally, I don't want to have to do business with sharemarket capitalism for any reason or support their economy.  The protest movements and innovations such as online trading is taking back the land for the people - do you agree?  I would rather trade with my mate in Hong Kong than Harvey Norman any day of the week.




I do trust you are in charge of your own superfund CW


He doesn't have a 'Superfund'....He's on a pension....




oh I see, so who pays his pension.?..not some silly govt that depends on share markets and capitalism to make ends meet..surely

I mean even he must realise if capitalism collapses tomorrow.we are all gone including whitey


It's the Government HE hates.....Irony runs really really thick on these boards..

The Government pays my pension waiting for me to die because it too corrupt to uphold the justice it claims to represent and compensate me for the organized thuggery and economic aggression it subjected me to in the work place.  It also fears the 2.3gb of evidence I have on my hard drive. :(


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