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Message started by salad in on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:15am

Title: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by salad in on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:15am
Breaking news that Harry Jenkins, H of R speaker, has resigned his commission. More news to follow.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by FRED. on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:18am

salad in wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:15am:
Breaking news that Harry Jenkins, H of R speaker, has resigned his commission. More news to follow.


DO YOU BLAME HIM        GREAT NEWS   BYE BYE  FAT ARSE GIZZARD ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by salad in on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:21am

Quote:
Harry Jenkins resigns as Speaker of the House of Representatives

HARRY Jenkins has resigned as the Speaker of the House of Representatives.

Mr Jenkins told Parliament this morning that he had become progressively frustrated at the stricture of minority Government.

"My desire is to be able to participate in policy and parliamentary debate, and this would be incompatible with continuing in the role of Speaker," he said.

[...]

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/harry-jenkins-resigns-as-speaker/story-e6frfku0-1226204372048

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by juliar on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:26am
Unfortunately it does not mean that guggly Gillard and the Labor loonies will be junked as Harold will still be a member of the Labor mob. It just means there will be a new speaker - maybe Kevin 11 ?


House Speaker Harry Jenkins resigns
BY: BEN PACKHAM From: The Australian November 24, 2011 9:09AM

THE Speaker of the House of Representatives has resigned.

SPEAKER of the Federal parliament Harry Jenkins has resigned from his post, saying he wants to participate more in Labor Party policy and affairs.

He will visit the Governor-General today to make the decision official.

Today will be his last day as speaker.

The move comes amid a further breakdown in relations of Liberal Deputy Speaker Peter Slipper and his own party.

Opposition leader Tony Abbott said he’d had no notice of the move and he believed something “extraordinary” had occurred.

In a statement to Parliament, Speaker Jenkins said he’d divorsed himself from party political matters in order to carry out his duties in a non-partisan manner.


“In this era of minority government I have progressively become frustrated at this stricture,” he said.

“My desire is to be able to participate in policy and parliamentary debate, and this would be incompatible with continuing in the role of Speaker.

“As a consequence, when I vacate the Chair at the end of this short statement I will visit the Governor-General to tender my resignation as Speaker of the House of Representatives.

“I thank all members for their co-operation which they have dispensed to varying degrees depending upon the individual.”

 Opposition Leader Tony Abbott thanked Mr Jenkins for “serving this parliament with distinction for four years”.

“It is a remarkable thing for this parliament to witness out of the blue the resignation of the speaker,” he said.

“One must assume that’s something extraordinary is happening in the Labor party at the moment for the speaker to resign his office,’’ he said

Mr Abbott said the Coalition would support whoever Labor proposed to replace Mr Jenkins.

Prime Minster Julia Gillard said she would speak further about Mr Jenkins resignation later today.

 

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by GoddyofOz on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:26am

What implications does this have on the Minority Government? Doesn't this put Labor up one and the Opposition down one?

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by skippy. on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:32am

FRED. wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:18am:

salad in wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:15am:
Breaking news that Harry Jenkins, H of R speaker, has resigned his commission. More news to follow.


DO YOU BLAME HIM        GREAT NEWS   BYE BYE  FAT ARSE GIZZARD ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Why would it bye bye to Gillard? if anything this will strengthen the gov. Jenkins is now another vote for the gov, and if the whispers I've been hearing are true, Peter slipper is about to dump the Liberal party ans sit as an Independent, most likely as speaker on the house,so that means Labor now have a proper majority and the Libs will find it much harder to spoil the broth, all good good, wait till this arvo for my prophecy to be born out. ;D
I'm sorry to see Jenkins go, he's a good speaker, but I bet there is a deal with Slipper, he hates Abbott,

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:32am
Come on spinner, Mr Oakshott, now is your time to shine. God help us.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by juliar on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:32am
Unfortunately all it means is that someone else will be speaker and this will most likely be someone else from the Labor party so nothing changes.

If Harold had resigned from the Labor Party to live on his very fat taxpayer funded pension then there would be shouting from the rooftops and dancing in the streets.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by GoddyofOz on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:37am
This was done intentionally by Labor; I believe Jenkins wanted to resign of his own accord, but I think Labor knew it was coming.

They're forming a majority government. This is the perfect opportunity for Labor to lock themselves in until 2013, no questions asked.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by ########## on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:40am

Slipper may slip in.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by FRED. on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:40am

GoddyofOz wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:37am:
This was done intentionally by Labor; I believe Jenkins wanted to resign of his own accord, but I think Labor knew it was coming.

They're forming a majority government.


Only for a week      Then BYE BYE    ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Harry will quit LABOR   ;) ;)

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by skippy. on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:43am

GoddyofOz wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:37am:
This was done intentionally by Labor; I believe Jenkins wanted to resign of his own accord, but I think Labor knew it was coming.

They're forming a majority government.

exactly.
Labor have been in  talks with slipper who is about to lose preselection for his seat, I expect Slipper to announce his resignation from the Libs within the next couple of hours and become the independent speaker of the house. LOL, Abbott says something "extraordinary happening in the gov, the stupid fool has no idea. ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:46am

skippy. wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:43am:

GoddyofOz wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:37am:
This was done intentionally by Labor; I believe Jenkins wanted to resign of his own accord, but I think Labor knew it was coming.

They're forming a majority government.

exactly.
Labor have been in  talks with slipper who is about to lose preselection for his seat, I expect Slipper to announce his resignation from the Libs within the next couple of hours and become the independent speaker of the house. LOL, Abbott says something "extraordinary happening in the gov, the stupid fool has no idea. ;D ;D ;D

I dont think any liberal or labor person could care less about the likes or consequences of a trator.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by ########## on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:46am
 If Slipper slips in and  he is still officially a member of the LNP. With an ALP or Indie as Deputy.  It would be Check! Checkmate?

BYE BYE Chesty-KING Abbott.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by GoddyofOz on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:49am

It can't be overstated, the significance of this. The potential impact it could have.

If Labor are doing what I think they're doing, which they are, they're sending Tony Abbott to the proverbial grave.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:52am

GoddyofOz wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:49am:
It can't be overstated, the significance of this. The potential impact it could have.

If Labor are doing what I think they're doing, which they are, they're sending Tony Abbott to the proverbial grave.

How so. Abbott is not in power to begin with. Liberals, as they have been, will still be waiting for the next election while labor are in power and have been in power.

Where is the grave digging?

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by skippy. on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:52am

GoddyofOz wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:49am:
It can't be overstated, the significance of this. The potential impact it could have.

If Labor are doing what I think they're doing, which they are, they're sending Tony Abbott to the proverbial grave.

I eagerly await the rightard tanties with juicy anticipation. This is soooooooooooooooooooooofunny. ;D

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by FRED. on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:55am

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:52am:

GoddyofOz wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:49am:
It can't be overstated, the significance of this. The potential impact it could have.

If Labor are doing what I think they're doing, which they are, they're sending Tony Abbott to the proverbial grave.

How so. Abbott is not in power to begin with. Liberals, as they have been, will still be waiting for the next election while labor are in power and have been in power.

Where is the grave digging?


Dont confuse them Parliament is finishing .   Now the LABOR INFIGHTING STARTS    ;D ;D

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by buzzanddidj on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:57am

wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:40am:
Slipper may slip in...








... when he wakes up








Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by Gist on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:00am
I liked Harry in that job, he did well. Very admirable. Imagine having Bronwyn Bishop jumping up and nitpicking every 10 seconds! How he didn't throw things at her I'll never know. I wouldn't have been able to hold back.

Not so long ago, Gillard couldn't win a trick. Now she's coming up trumps on every hand. Swings and roundabouts I guess.

My money is on Joe to replace Mr Budgie Pants.  :)

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:00am

buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:57am:

wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:40am:
Slipper may slip in...








... when he wakes up

He looks like he should be with the greens lad(ette)s. Nice pin stripe.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by GoddyofOz on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:01am

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:52am:

GoddyofOz wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:49am:
It can't be overstated, the significance of this. The potential impact it could have.

If Labor are doing what I think they're doing, which they are, they're sending Tony Abbott to the proverbial grave.

How so. Abbott is not in power to begin with. Liberals, as they have been, will still be waiting for the next election while labor are in power and have been in power.

Where is the grave digging?


I personally believe Abbott had a mandate to force an early election, and to capitalize on the nature of a hung parliament. That, clearly cannot happen now, and with Abbott and the Coalition sinking in the polls, this is very convenient timing.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by skippy. on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:03am
You've got to love news lmd, partisan hacks to the end. Their heading in the TELE at the moment says
"Government in turmoil as speaker quits"
THEN, their first paragragh says
SPEAKER of the House of Representatives Harry Jenkins has resigned.
The Labor MP shocked MPs at 9am when he made the announcement in the lower house.

The move has enormous ramifications for the balance of power in the lower house, [highlight]and could remove a crucial vote for the coalition[/highlight]

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:03am

GoddyofOz wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:01am:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:52am:

GoddyofOz wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:49am:
It can't be overstated, the significance of this. The potential impact it could have.

If Labor are doing what I think they're doing, which they are, they're sending Tony Abbott to the proverbial grave.

How so. Abbott is not in power to begin with. Liberals, as they have been, will still be waiting for the next election while labor are in power and have been in power.

Where is the grave digging?


I personally believe Abbott had a mandate to force an early election, and to capitalize on the nature of a hung parliament. That, clearly cannot happen now, and with Abbott and the Coalition sinking in the polls, this is very convenient timing.

lol so what. Abbott cant do what is virtually impossible when you have selfish career politicians keeping their jobs ahead of the will of the people.

Abbott has a mandate on his BLOOD OATH and I will have my day in the sun against these lying pieces of sh...s

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by GoddyofOz on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:05am

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:03am:

GoddyofOz wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:01am:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:52am:

GoddyofOz wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:49am:
It can't be overstated, the significance of this. The potential impact it could have.

If Labor are doing what I think they're doing, which they are, they're sending Tony Abbott to the proverbial grave.

How so. Abbott is not in power to begin with. Liberals, as they have been, will still be waiting for the next election while labor are in power and have been in power.

Where is the grave digging?


I personally believe Abbott had a mandate to force an early election, and to capitalize on the nature of a hung parliament. That, clearly cannot happen now, and with Abbott and the Coalition sinking in the polls, this is very convenient timing.

lol so what. Abbott cant do what is virtually impossible when you have selfish career politicians keeping their jobs ahead of the will of the people.

Abbott has a mandate on his BLOOD OATH and I will have my day in the sun against these lying pieces of sh...s


Oh trust me son, you give way too much stock to your relevance in the broad stage of things.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:09am

GoddyofOz wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:05am:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:03am:

GoddyofOz wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:01am:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:52am:

GoddyofOz wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:49am:
It can't be overstated, the significance of this. The potential impact it could have.

If Labor are doing what I think they're doing, which they are, they're sending Tony Abbott to the proverbial grave.

How so. Abbott is not in power to begin with. Liberals, as they have been, will still be waiting for the next election while labor are in power and have been in power.

Where is the grave digging?


I personally believe Abbott had a mandate to force an early election, and to capitalize on the nature of a hung parliament. That, clearly cannot happen now, and with Abbott and the Coalition sinking in the polls, this is very convenient timing.

lol so what. Abbott cant do what is virtually impossible when you have selfish career politicians keeping their jobs ahead of the will of the people.

Abbott has a mandate on his BLOOD OATH and I will have my day in the sun against these lying pieces of sh...s


Oh trust me son, you give way too much stock to your relevance in the broad stage of things.

Not at all. Every vote count and more so in Australia.

Now if I were talking about everyone will have their day in the sun against these lying pieces of sh...s, then you may have some relevance. As your relevance has not happened in the past, it has not happened on this occasion either.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by GoddyofOz on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:10am

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:09am:

GoddyofOz wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:05am:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:03am:

GoddyofOz wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:01am:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:52am:

GoddyofOz wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:49am:
It can't be overstated, the significance of this. The potential impact it could have.

If Labor are doing what I think they're doing, which they are, they're sending Tony Abbott to the proverbial grave.

How so. Abbott is not in power to begin with. Liberals, as they have been, will still be waiting for the next election while labor are in power and have been in power.

Where is the grave digging?


I personally believe Abbott had a mandate to force an early election, and to capitalize on the nature of a hung parliament. That, clearly cannot happen now, and with Abbott and the Coalition sinking in the polls, this is very convenient timing.

lol so what. Abbott cant do what is virtually impossible when you have selfish career politicians keeping their jobs ahead of the will of the people.

Abbott has a mandate on his BLOOD OATH and I will have my day in the sun against these lying pieces of sh...s


Oh trust me son, you give way too much stock to your relevance in the broad stage of things.

Not at all. Every vote count and more so in Australia.

Now if I were talking about everyone will have their day in the sun against these lying pieces of sh...s, then you may have some relevance. As your relivence has not happened in the past, it has not happened on this occasion either.


Well, the relivence of this in regards to Abbott's position are dire so buckle up, son.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by longweekend58 on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:12am

GoddyofOz wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:37am:
This was done intentionally by Labor; I believe Jenkins wanted to resign of his own accord, but I think Labor knew it was coming.

They're forming a majority government. This is the perfect opportunity for Labor to lock themselves in until 2013, no questions asked.


you need to learn to count. majority govt requires 76 seats. they have 72. it remains and always will be, MINORITY govt.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by skippy. on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:14am
As I said about an hour ago


Quote:
The Liberal MP, Peter Slipper, is likely to become the next Speaker of the House of Representatives after Labor's Harry Jenkins resigned this morning, shocking the Parliament on its final sitting day for 2011.

Labor MPs will be asked to approve Mr Slipper's nomination at a special caucus meeting scheduled for 10am.
If Mr Slipper gets the nod from Labor MPs, and enough independents as expected, it will change the fine balance of the hung parliament because Tony Abbott will lose two numbers on the floor.Advertisement: Story continues below That would be because Mr Slipper would be taken from the floor, meaning the Liberals would lose a vote, while Mr Jenkins would return to the backbench, giving Labor an extra vote.

Mr Jenkins' resignation has caught the Parliament by surprise. But it is no surprise that Mr Slipper will put up his hand, especially as his Liberal National Party colleagues are moving to strip him of preselection


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/speakers-shock-resignation-may-change-balance-of-power-20111124-1nvn8.html#ixzz1eZarmZZY


;D ;D ;D Abbott will be furious. ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by longweekend58 on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:14am
interesting days ahead esp if Jenkins decides to quite the house.

remember all you dimwits repeating ad nauseum 'there is 2 years to go'.? THIS is why that is a silly statement. A) it is only 21months at most and B) it is a minority govt which rarely go the distance.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by skippy. on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:15am

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:12am:

GoddyofOz wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:37am:
This was done intentionally by Labor; I believe Jenkins wanted to resign of his own accord, but I think Labor knew it was coming.

They're forming a majority government. This is the perfect opportunity for Labor to lock themselves in until 2013, no questions asked.


you need to learn to count. majority govt requires 76 seats. they have 72. it remains and always will be, MINORITY govt.

LOL here comes the tanties. ;D ;D

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by skippy. on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:17am

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:14am:
interesting days ahead esp if Jenkins decides to quite the house.

remember all you dimwits repeating ad nauseum 'there is 2 years to go'.? THIS is why that is a silly statement. A) it is only 21months at most and B) it is a minority govt which rarely go the distance.

Your delusions are of the grandest scale, Jenkins IS NOT quiting the house, this is a set up, and you still dont get it,soooooooooo funny. ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by FRED. on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:17am

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:14am:
interesting days ahead esp if Jenkins decides to quite the house.

remember all you dimwits repeating ad nauseum 'there is 2 years to go'.? THIS is why that is a silly statement. A) it is only 21months at most and B) it is a minority govt which rarely go the distance.


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0Thumbs UpThumbs Down0 Barry W8 minutes agoReport Abuse
Jenkins did it for Labor. Nothing else. Its a numbers game and now Julia can tell the Poker Machine Senator Wilkie to get stuffed, we don't need you anymore'. She will do anything to stay in power. Cunning as a fox!

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0Thumbs UpThumbs Down0 Barry7 minutes agoReport Abuse
just another dirty trick by the international socialist (globalist labor party to gain numbers in parlament..watch it unfold

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0Thumbs UpThumbs Down0 Beachgolfer627 minutes agoReport Abuse
I must be thinking of another Jenkins "Speaker of the House". I have been watching his control (or lack thereof) of the Reps since he took office. He is a very major reason the House of Reps is a joke. He has allowed our democracy to be hijacked by incompetents and thugs on both sides of the house

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0Thumbs UpThumbs Down0 Michael6 minutes agoReport Abuse
We should not underestimate the ability of Gillard to plot and scheme ahead, especially where her own career is at stake. So no doubt she has a hand in this. Just as she schemed to persistently label Abott as negative in preparation for the next election, so she consistently plots to delay the election.

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0Thumbs UpThumbs Down0 Wolfgang - Lina5 minutes agoReport Abuse
WELL DONE JULIER you must be scared so you have to feather you nest.here you have proofed again what a commo dictator you realy are.HAIL commo julier.what a piece of sh###T YOU ARE

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0Thumbs UpThumbs Down0 monark1 minute agoReport Abuse
Gillard is a disgrace and she reminds me of Gadaffi in his final days of deceit and lies

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POST ON C7    ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by skippy. on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:20am
LOL the news lmd hacks are off on a little tanty tangent.

Quote:
DISGRACED Queensland Liberal MP Peter Slipper is now expected to take over as parliamentary speaker by shell-shocked Labor and Opposition MPs - in a move that would deliver a little more breathing space to the Gillard Government


Oh I love the bitterness of a coalition supporter,gold. ;D

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by Grey on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:22am
It's a done deal!  ;D ;D ;D

Labor just got twice the ticker.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by gizmo_2655 on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:23am

GoddyofOz wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:26am:
What implications does this have on the Minority Government? Doesn't this put Labor up one and the Opposition down one?


No not really....I think it just means that Labor has to appoint someone to take the role of deputy speaker....

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by FRED. on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:25am

Grey wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:22am:
It's a done deal!  ;D ;D ;D

Labor just got twice the ticker.


ONE WEEK     ;D ;D ;D ;D Then 3 months  for it go further into the SHYTE ;) ;)

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by juliar on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:26am
Is it just possible that Labor have heard that Craig is to be charged and they are trying to get Slipper in to keep the numbers ?

If Slipper goes across and Craig stays then Labor won't need Adam Bandit in the lower house but they will still need the Communist Greens in the upper house.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by skippy. on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:28am

juliar wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:26am:
Is it just possible that Labor have heard that Craig is to be charged and they are trying to get Slipper in to keep the numbers ?
If Slipper goes across and Craig stays then Labor won't need Adam Bandit in the lower house but they will still need the Communist Greens in the upper house.

That is possible, but unlikely, tho it would be funny, the rightards would have an even bigger tanty, especially longweeked who's been telling us if that happens Labor are gone,soooooooooooooooooo funny. ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by buzzanddidj on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:29am

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:14am:
interesting days ahead esp if Jenkins decides to quite the house.




"QUIT the HOUSE" ?


GIVE us a BREAK !





( ... he'll relish h the oppotunity to devote more time representing his own electorate

http://www.harryjenkins.com/

... of Scullin)


Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by Gist on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:37am

juliar wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:26am:
Is it just possible that Labor have heard that Craig is to be charged and they are trying to get Slipper in to keep the numbers ?

If Slipper goes across and Craig stays then Labor won't need Adam Bandit in the lower house but they will still need the Communist Greens in the upper house.


ooooooo... I love how they clutch at any little straw....

If Craig is charged, he doesn't go anywhere liar. He needs to be convicted. That's not even close to happening.

Jenkins quitting the house. HAH!! What a good one!

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by gizmo_2655 on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:42am

skippy. wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:28am:

juliar wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:26am:
Is it just possible that Labor have heard that Craig is to be charged and they are trying to get Slipper in to keep the numbers ?
If Slipper goes across and Craig stays then Labor won't need Adam Bandit in the lower house but they will still need the Communist Greens in the upper house.

That is possible, but unlikely, tho it would be funny, the rightards would have an even bigger tanty, especially longweeked who's been telling us if that happens Labor are gone,soooooooooooooooooo funny. ;D ;D ;D


Sorry no, that's not how it works...
To avoid changing the balance of seats, the Speaker and Deputy Speaker are chosen from both sides of the HoR.....

In this case Harry Jenkins was Labor, so the deputy must be chosen from the Opposition.......It's a form of pairing..

Now the Harry's gone, the Opposition bloke Slipper moves up to Speaker, so Labor must choose a deputy...

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by Grey on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:43am
Hahahaha Tony is sooo funny. If there's a crisis int the government who's keeping the smile off of his face? He's the leader of the desolation rows.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by skippy. on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:48am

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:42am:

skippy. wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:28am:

juliar wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:26am:
Is it just possible that Labor have heard that Craig is to be charged and they are trying to get Slipper in to keep the numbers ?
If Slipper goes across and Craig stays then Labor won't need Adam Bandit in the lower house but they will still need the Communist Greens in the upper house.

That is possible, but unlikely, tho it would be funny, the rightards would have an even bigger tanty, especially longweeked who's been telling us if that happens Labor are gone,soooooooooooooooooo funny. ;D ;D ;D


Sorry no, that's not how it works...
To avoid changing the balance of seats, the Speaker and Deputy Speaker are chosen from both sides of the HoR.....

In this case Harry Jenkins was Labor, so the deputy must be chosen from the Opposition.......It's a form of pairing..

Now the Harry's gone, the Opposition bloke Slipper moves up to Speaker, so Labor must choose a deputy...

NUP, the deputy could be GREENS or independent,and Slipper could well resign from the LIBS TODAY as well,which in turn could allow Labor to appoint yet another disgruntled Lib or Nat.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by juliar on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:50am
As a refresher on parliamentary procedure just how and when do the speaker and deputy speaker actually vote ?

Does the deputy speaker actually have a normal vote ?

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by ########## on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:54am

Grey wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:43am:
Hahahaha Tony is sooo funny. If there's a crisis int the government who's keeping the smile off of his face? He's the leader of the desolation rows.



If the government is in 'crisis' then what state is the Opposition  ;D?

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by skippy. on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:55am

juliar wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:50am:
As a refresher on parliamentary procedure just how and when do the speaker and deputy speaker actually vote ?

Does the deputy speaker actually have a normal vote ?

From my understanding,YES, its just the speaker that doesn't have a normal vote, thats why Gizmos comment, in my opinion, is not accurate.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by skippy. on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:57am

juliar wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:50am:
As a refresher on parliamentary procedure just how and when do the speaker and deputy speaker actually vote ?

Does the deputy speaker actually have a normal vote ?

I'm surprised you're usually up on those sort of things, have you tried to check out the protocol?

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by Soren on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:57am

wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:54am:

Grey wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:43am:
Hahahaha Tony is sooo funny. If there's a crisis int the government who's keeping the smile off of his face? He's the leader of the desolation rows.



If the government is in 'crisis' then what state is the Opposition  ;D?



It is in opposition to government chaos and crisis.  Would you have them support it?



Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by gizmo_2655 on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:57am

skippy. wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:55am:

juliar wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:50am:
As a refresher on parliamentary procedure just how and when do the speaker and deputy speaker actually vote ?

Does the deputy speaker actually have a normal vote ?

From my understanding,YES, its just the speaker that doesn't have a normal vote, thats why Gizmos comment, in my opinion, is not accurate.


Hmmm are you sure skippy??

Ok, I'll have to check..

It seems I was wrong Skippy....
It's the 2nd Deputy Speaker that must be from Opposition...
But the Speaker him/herself is chosen from the ruling party.....So the replacement Speaker will have to be Labor (or Green or Indy)

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by ########## on Nov 24th, 2011 at 10:00am
 tweets

Abbott : Govt outsmarted me , ego is in crisis & PM must resign. ROFLOL #auspol

: ask  Abbott about the Mal Coulston affair# auspol



So you threaten to dump an MP in a hung Parliament and they rat you out - gee, there's a shock.
1 minute ago

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by Verge on Nov 24th, 2011 at 10:09am
I have a lot of time for Harry, and thought it was average how Oakeshott tried to broker a deal to get himself in the chair.

Im expecting Slipper or Oakeshott to take the mantle.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by skippy. on Nov 24th, 2011 at 10:11am

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:57am:

skippy. wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:55am:

juliar wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:50am:
As a refresher on parliamentary procedure just how and when do the speaker and deputy speaker actually vote ?

Does the deputy speaker actually have a normal vote ?

From my understanding,YES, its just the speaker that doesn't have a normal vote, thats why Gizmos comment, in my opinion, is not accurate.


Hmmm are you sure skippy??

Ok, I'll have to check..

It seems I was wrong Skippy....
It's the 2nd Deputy Speaker that must be from Opposition...
But the Speaker him/herself is chosen from the ruling party.....So the replacement Speaker will have to be Labor (or Green or Indy)

If thats the case Slipper will have to resign from the Libs, because its about to be announced that he is the new speaker.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by FRED. on Nov 24th, 2011 at 10:15am

skippy. wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 10:11am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:57am:

skippy. wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:55am:

juliar wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:50am:
As a refresher on parliamentary procedure just how and when do the speaker and deputy speaker actually vote ?

Does the deputy speaker actually have a normal vote ?

From my understanding,YES, its just the speaker that doesn't have a normal vote, thats why Gizmos comment, in my opinion, is not accurate.


Hmmm are you sure skippy??

Ok, I'll have to check..

It seems I was wrong Skippy....
It's the 2nd Deputy Speaker that must be from Opposition...
But the Speaker him/herself is chosen from the ruling party.....So the replacement Speaker will have to be Labor (or Green or Indy)

If thats the case Slipper will have to resign from the Libs, because its about to be announced that he is the new speaker.


If you listen to Tonys speech slipper is finshed  OUT ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by juliar on Nov 24th, 2011 at 10:33am
The unknown here is what does Prime Minister Bob Brown want to happen.

Does he support Wilkie ?

Does he care if Adam Bandit can be ignored ?

Does he like Slipper who has corruption investigations under way in Queensland ?

Labor still need the Greens in the upper house so they still have to obey uncle Bob's commands.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by Doctor Jolly on Nov 24th, 2011 at 10:57am
Abbott just handed Gillard a majority government.

Surely heads must roll at the liberal party for pushing Slipper out.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 24th, 2011 at 10:59am

Doctor Jolly wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 10:57am:
Abbott just handed Gillard a majority government.

Surely heads must roll at the liberal party for pushing Slipper out.

How can heads roll when the liberal party decided to get rid of him. The party, not Abbott.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by Gist on Nov 24th, 2011 at 11:08am

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 10:59am:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 10:57am:
Abbott just handed Gillard a majority government.

Surely heads must roll at the liberal party for pushing Slipper out.

How can heads roll when the liberal party decided to get rid of him. The party, not Abbott.


Then you would expect that the leadership should be telling the rest of the party to pull their heads in. Either that didn't happen or the party isn't listening.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by Gist on Nov 24th, 2011 at 11:09am

juliar wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 10:33am:
The unknown here is what does Prime Minister Bob Brown want to happen.

Does he support Wilkie ?

Does he care if Adam Bandit can be ignored ?

Does he like Slipper who has corruption investigations under way in Queensland ?

Labor still need the Greens in the upper house so they still have to obey uncle Bob's commands.


As has almost every governments since... I dunno. One term of Howards has been the only exception for quite a while.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by Doctor Jolly on Nov 24th, 2011 at 11:18am

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 10:59am:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 10:57am:
Abbott just handed Gillard a majority government.

Surely heads must roll at the liberal party for pushing Slipper out.

How can heads roll when the liberal party decided to get rid of him. The party, not Abbott.


But why would you get rid of a member when you are only 1 bi-election away from government?.  Now they are 2 bi-elections which is as good as 2 years away from a crack at government.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 24th, 2011 at 11:20am

Doctor Jolly wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 11:18am:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 10:59am:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 10:57am:
Abbott just handed Gillard a majority government.

Surely heads must roll at the liberal party for pushing Slipper out.

How can heads roll when the liberal party decided to get rid of him. The party, not Abbott.


But why would you get rid of a member when you are only 1 bi-election away from government?.  Now they are 2 bi-elections which is as good as 2 years away from a crack at government.

Why would you stick with someone who is a traitor.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by skippy. on Nov 24th, 2011 at 11:22am

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 11:20am:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 11:18am:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 10:59am:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 10:57am:
Abbott just handed Gillard a majority government.

Surely heads must roll at the liberal party for pushing Slipper out.

How can heads roll when the liberal party decided to get rid of him. The party, not Abbott.


But why would you get rid of a member when you are only 1 bi-election away from government?.  Now they are 2 bi-elections which is as good as 2 years away from a crack at government.

Why would you stick with someone who is a traitor.

LOL like Howard and Colston,you mean? ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by Doctor Jolly on Nov 24th, 2011 at 11:28am

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 11:20am:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 11:18am:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 10:59am:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 10:57am:
Abbott just handed Gillard a majority government.

Surely heads must roll at the liberal party for pushing Slipper out.

How can heads roll when the liberal party decided to get rid of him. The party, not Abbott.


But why would you get rid of a member when you are only 1 bi-election away from government?.  Now they are 2 bi-elections which is as good as 2 years away from a crack at government.

Why would you stick with someone who is a traitor.


What did he do to justify the whole opposition throwing away any chance of government for 2 years ?

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by FriYAY on Nov 24th, 2011 at 11:29am
Federal Liberal MP Peter Slipper is filling in as Speaker of the federal House of Representatives, only hours after staring down the possibility of being dumped by his own party.

ABC...

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by olde.sault on Nov 24th, 2011 at 11:47am

GoddyofOz wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:49am:
It can't be overstated, the significance of this. The potential impact it could have.

If Labor are doing what I think they're doing, which they are, they're sending Tony Abbott to the proverbial grave.


Hello, have I missed something?

What has Harry Jenkin's resigning (or being pushed out of his chair) got to do with Abbott being sent to the grave?

I can only hope that some of our past Labor voters will see through the "Peter Slippery" shenanigans and vote for an honest politician at the next election. . . one whose neck doesn't stiffen at sight of a prostitute.


Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by Verge on Nov 24th, 2011 at 11:57am

olde.sault wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 11:47am:

GoddyofOz wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:49am:
It can't be overstated, the significance of this. The potential impact it could have.

If Labor are doing what I think they're doing, which they are, they're sending Tony Abbott to the proverbial grave.


Hello, have I missed something?

What has Harry Jenkin's resigning (or being pushed out of his chair) got to do with Abbott being sent to the grave?

I can only hope that some of our past Labor voters will see through the "Peter Slippery" shenanigans and vote for an honest politician at the next election. . . one whose neck doesn't stiffen at sight of a prostitute.


If it gives the ALP a two vote majority it does.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by dsmithy70 on Nov 24th, 2011 at 12:10pm

Verge wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 11:57am:

olde.sault wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 11:47am:

GoddyofOz wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:49am:
It can't be overstated, the significance of this. The potential impact it could have.

If Labor are doing what I think they're doing, which they are, they're sending Tony Abbott to the proverbial grave.


Hello, have I missed something?

What has Harry Jenkin's resigning (or being pushed out of his chair) got to do with Abbott being sent to the grave?

I can only hope that some of our past Labor voters will see through the "Peter Slippery" shenanigans and vote for an honest politician at the next election. . . one whose neck doesn't stiffen at sight of a prostitute.


If it gives the ALP a two vote majority it does.


So no more Minority government.
Well that's the last we will hear of the illegitimate angle I suppose. ;D

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by buzzanddidj on Nov 24th, 2011 at 12:27pm
Renegade Liberal to boost Labor's numbers
Jeremy Thompson
November 24, 2011 13:16:36


The Opposition launched a desperate rearguard action today as a Labor coup looked set to install a renegade Liberal as House of Representatives speaker.

A day of extraordinary political drama began when Labor Speaker Harry Jenkins announced his resignation.

The move pitched Liberal Deputy Speaker Peter Slipper into the spotlight, with Labor Caucus wasting little time in nominating him for the Speaker's role - a move which would effectively give Labor one more seat in the House of Reps and lessen its reliance on independent and Greens MPs.

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott hit back by threatening to throw him out of the party if he accepted the job.

The vote to install Mr Slipper was scheduled for 12:30pm AEST and Mr Slipper announced that he would accept Labor's nomination - effectively casting himself into the political wilderness and guaranteeing his expulsion from the Liberal ranks.

But manager of Opposition business Christopher Pyne stepped up to nominate a succession of Labor MPs for the job instead.

All declined; Anna Burke, Dick Adams, Sid Sidebottom, Sharon Bird, Kirsten Livermore, Steve Georganas ... the list went on.

It is understood the Government has been negotiating with Mr Slipper for some weeks, deliberations that were kept secret, and surprised his former colleagues today.

The seemingly inevitable shift in the balance of power strengthens Labor's position and means independent MP Andrew Wilkie will not be able to carry out his threat to bring down the government should his bill on poker machine reform be defeated.

Ms Pyne is still speaking. More to come.



http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-11-24/slipper-installed-as-new-speaker/3691680



Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by skippy. on Nov 24th, 2011 at 12:34pm

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AS far as game changers go, they don't come much bigger. The resignation of Harry Jenkins as Speaker of the Parliament this morning has fundamentally shifted the rocky ground that Julia Gillard has had to traverse for the past year.
Liberal MP Peter Slipper will take the chair, giving the government an extra number in the lower house and the government vital breathing space. Slipper will resign as a member of the Liberal Party giving Labor a one seat lead in terms of raw numbers over the Coalition.

It gives Labor a two seat buffer when it comes to voting in the house.

What does this mean?

Most importantly, it has neutered Andrew Wilkie, the Tasmanian Independent who has held a gun to the government's head for the past 12 months over his pokie reforms.

Wilkie has threatened to withdraw his support if the Government doesn't pass his legislation for mandatory precommitment by May next year.

That threat has now become a hollow one, as his power to bring down the government with a single vote has been removed.

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"We can now tell him to go and jump," said one Labor MP.
The pokie reforms, in their current form, have now been removed from the table and with them, one of the potential triggers for Labor MPs to move against Gillard's leadership.

Gillard may also now be able to get her private health insurance bill through parliament, rescuing the budget with then $2 billion it will save the government.

It also changes the relationship with the Greens. Adam Bandt has become a thorn in Gillard's side, constantly seeking to amend legislation, more often simply to grandstand.

Gillard will no longer have to be so accommodating of the Greens' silly demands - at least in the lower house.

Finally, it raises the possibility of a cabinet reshuffle for Gillard.

Jenkins has just taken. $100,000 haircut in salary. It is hard to believe that he has not been offered something in return for temporarily saving the Government's hide. We could expect one by the end of the year or early next.

Of course, the change in numbers in the lower house makes it easier for Kevin Rudd should he mount a challenge to Gillard. He would assume support from Queensland independent Bob Katter. He now only needs one more to ensure a Rudd comeback didn't result in a collapse of the government.

It is interesting to note that Rudd met with Slipper only last week in his seat - to chew the fat. Some are suggesting the Jenkins resignation has the hallmarks of Rudd's meddling. Jenkins is a Leftie and close to the man doing Rudd's numbers, Allan Griffin.

While the resignation of Jenkins appears to have come as a shock to the Coalition, it has not been a surprise to those in the Labor Party who have been close to the action.
When Jenkins took the speakership last year, he was told by Gillard that it was the second best option for the Government. If Labor could have forced a Coalition MP to take the job, it would have.

They have been quietly working away on Slipper since the election.

Those talks have been elevated over the past two weeks.

With Slipper's own preselection under threat, he had finally had enough of Tony Abbott's lack of support and agreed to take the job of speaker if Jenkins resigned.

Far from being a government in turmoil, as Abbott has now tried to portray through the loss of the speaker, it is now a government with breathing space.
It is in fact Abbott's leadership which will come into sharp focus. His promise to his party room of trying to force an election has just become a lot harder.

These are the new dynamics of the new hung parliament



;D ;D ;D LOL and this is from the partasin hacks at news lmd, soooooo funny.http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/sydney-nsw/julia-gillard-makes-sure-its-game-on-for-tony-abbott/story-e6freuzi-1226204769488

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 24th, 2011 at 12:36pm
Labor political hacks put their personal careers over the career of a woman to find her only good enough as a deputy and not the leader.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by dsmithy70 on Nov 24th, 2011 at 12:38pm
Labor far from being politically inept have totally blind sided the opposition.
That's what happens I suppose when you make the head kicker the decision maker. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by skippy. on Nov 24th, 2011 at 12:39pm

Quote:
Far from being a government in turmoil, as Abbott has now tried to portray through the loss of the speaker, it is now a government with breathing space.
It is in fact Abbott's leadership which will come into sharp focus. His promise to his party room of trying to force an election has just become a lot harder
Yes,very telling, if Abbott thought he was in trouble early in the week, he ain't seen nothing yet. ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 24th, 2011 at 12:42pm
Poor Oakshott must be dying inside.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by skippy. on Nov 24th, 2011 at 12:43pm
Less than twenty minutes to question time, it should be interesting to say the least. ;D Gee the rightards are quite,aren't they? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 24th, 2011 at 12:44pm

Doctor Jolly wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 11:28am:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 11:20am:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 11:18am:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 10:59am:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 10:57am:
Abbott just handed Gillard a majority government.

Surely heads must roll at the liberal party for pushing Slipper out.

How can heads roll when the liberal party decided to get rid of him. The party, not Abbott.


But why would you get rid of a member when you are only 1 bi-election away from government?.  Now they are 2 bi-elections which is as good as 2 years away from a crack at government.

Why would you stick with someone who is a traitor.


What did he do to justify the whole opposition throwing away any chance of government for 2 years ?

He became a traitor and liberals are moral agents in the parliament where there are none on the other side.

Liberals would rather fall on the sword (as I expect of them) than to quiver and squirm to hold links to traitors.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by skippy. on Nov 24th, 2011 at 12:46pm

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 12:44pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 11:28am:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 11:20am:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 11:18am:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 10:59am:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 10:57am:
Abbott just handed Gillard a majority government.

Surely heads must roll at the liberal party for pushing Slipper out.

How can heads roll when the liberal party decided to get rid of him. The party, not Abbott.


But why would you get rid of a member when you are only 1 bi-election away from government?.  Now they are 2 bi-elections which is as good as 2 years away from a crack at government.

Why would you stick with someone who is a traitor.


What did he do to justify the whole opposition throwing away any chance of government for 2 years ?

He became a traitor and liberals are moral agents in the parliament where there are none on the other side.

Liberals would rather fall on the sword (as I expect of them) than to quiver and squirm to hold links to traitors.

Go on let it out, I love a good dummy spit. ;D ;D

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by Gist on Nov 24th, 2011 at 12:46pm

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 12:42pm:
Poor Oakshott must be dying inside.


I don't think so, lolly. If he took up the chair, he'd lose all ability to sway the government. I think he'd prefer to be able to hang onto that power.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by dsmithy70 on Nov 24th, 2011 at 12:51pm
Where's Cods???????? ;)

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by Verge on Nov 24th, 2011 at 1:00pm
Anne Bourke is now elected deputy speaker.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 24th, 2011 at 1:20pm

skippy. wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 12:46pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 12:44pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 11:28am:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 11:20am:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 11:18am:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 10:59am:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 10:57am:
Abbott just handed Gillard a majority government.

Surely heads must roll at the liberal party for pushing Slipper out.

How can heads roll when the liberal party decided to get rid of him. The party, not Abbott.


But why would you get rid of a member when you are only 1 bi-election away from government?.  Now they are 2 bi-elections which is as good as 2 years away from a crack at government.

Why would you stick with someone who is a traitor.


What did he do to justify the whole opposition throwing away any chance of government for 2 years ?

He became a traitor and liberals are moral agents in the parliament where there are none on the other side.

Liberals would rather fall on the sword (as I expect of them) than to quiver and squirm to hold links to traitors.

Go on let it out, I love a good dummy spit. ;D ;D

You would only get a dummy spit with the carbon tax LIE with me. This grubby stuff today is not on my dummy spit radar. It hardly changes anything.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by Doctor Jolly on Nov 24th, 2011 at 1:21pm

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 12:44pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 11:28am:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 11:20am:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 11:18am:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 10:59am:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 10:57am:
Abbott just handed Gillard a majority government.

Surely heads must roll at the liberal party for pushing Slipper out.

How can heads roll when the liberal party decided to get rid of him. The party, not Abbott.


But why would you get rid of a member when you are only 1 bi-election away from government?.  Now they are 2 bi-elections which is as good as 2 years away from a crack at government.

Why would you stick with someone who is a traitor.


What did he do to justify the whole opposition throwing away any chance of government for 2 years ?

He became a traitor and liberals are moral agents in the parliament where there are none on the other side.

Liberals would rather fall on the sword (as I expect of them) than to quiver and squirm to hold links to traitors.



Then it is a party of the stupid, for the stupid and led by the stupid.

How Abbott, who about a year ago was poised to win government with like-minded independents could now find himself 2 seats and 2 years away from another crack, is amazing.
He was hand the keys to the lodge on a platter, and f-ked it up royally.

He cant keep claiming Rudd's scalp as his claim to fame, surely.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 24th, 2011 at 1:28pm

Doctor Jolly wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 1:21pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 12:44pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 11:28am:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 11:20am:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 11:18am:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 10:59am:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 10:57am:
Abbott just handed Gillard a majority government.

Surely heads must roll at the liberal party for pushing Slipper out.

How can heads roll when the liberal party decided to get rid of him. The party, not Abbott.


But why would you get rid of a member when you are only 1 bi-election away from government?.  Now they are 2 bi-elections which is as good as 2 years away from a crack at government.

Why would you stick with someone who is a traitor.


What did he do to justify the whole opposition throwing away any chance of government for 2 years ?

He became a traitor and liberals are moral agents in the parliament where there are none on the other side.

Liberals would rather fall on the sword (as I expect of them) than to quiver and squirm to hold links to traitors.



Then it is a party of the stupid, for the stupid and led by the stupid.

How Abbott, who about a year ago was poised to win government with like-minded independents could now find himself 2 seats and 2 years away from another crack, is amazing.
He was hand the keys to the lodge on a platter, and f-ked it up royally.

He cant keep claiming Rudd's scalp as his claim to fame, surely.

Nothing has changed. It was expected that we may have to wait the full term because of the selfish lying career politicians in the gang-green lot.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by Gist on Nov 24th, 2011 at 1:29pm

Doctor Jolly wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 1:21pm:
Then it is a party of the stupid, for the stupid and led by the stupid.

How Abbott, who about a year ago was poised to win government with like-minded independents could now find himself 2 seats and 2 years away from another crack, is amazing.
He was hand the keys to the lodge on a platter, and f-ked it up royally.

He cant keep claiming Rudd's scalp as his claim to fame, surely.


Agree completely, Doc. Abbott had the same chance as Gillard to form a government and he screwed it up completely. Completely.

He completely failed to form a government.

He has completely failed to destabilise the relationship between the government and the independants.

He has completely failed to prevent any legislation going through or even get any modified.

He has completely failed to force the government back to the polls.

He has completely failed FULL STOP.

Even now, he's rabbiting on saying Gillard should be handing in her resignation. A censure motion? What an idiot!

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 24th, 2011 at 1:33pm

Gist wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 1:29pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 1:21pm:
Then it is a party of the stupid, for the stupid and led by the stupid.

How Abbott, who about a year ago was poised to win government with like-minded independents could now find himself 2 seats and 2 years away from another crack, is amazing.
He was hand the keys to the lodge on a platter, and f-ked it up royally.

He cant keep claiming Rudd's scalp as his claim to fame, surely.


Agree completely, Doc. Abbott had the same chance as Gillard to form a government and he screwed it up completely. Completely.

He completely failed to form a government.

He has completely failed to destabilise the relationship between the government and the independants.

He has completely failed to prevent any legislation going through or even get any modified.

He has completely failed to force the government back to the polls.

He has completely failed FULL STOP.

Even now, he's rabbiting on saying Gillard should be handing in her resignation. A censure motion? What an idiot!

No, labor screwed up by forming government with the pathetic greens party.

Labor made the mistake to think the Australian people will forget that labor lied to them to get elected.

Like I said, liberals would rather fall on their sword than to quiver and squirm to get elected or to get favour. Liberals are the only moral agents left in parliament and any traitor that goes with labor or gang-green can go with blessing. The traitor was never a moral agent for the Australian people.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by Doctor Jolly on Nov 24th, 2011 at 1:36pm
Abbott wont be leader by the time parliment comes back in the new year.

This is a monumental stuff up under his watch.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by skippy. on Nov 24th, 2011 at 1:36pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 12:51pm:
Where's Cods???????? ;)

;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by skippy. on Nov 24th, 2011 at 1:48pm

Doctor Jolly wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 1:36pm:
Abbott wont be leader by the time parliment comes back in the new year.

This is a monumental stuff up under his watch.

Even news lmd hacks are writing that Abbott is in trouble.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 24th, 2011 at 1:49pm

Doctor Jolly wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 1:36pm:
Abbott wont be leader by the time parliment comes back in the new year.

This is a monumental stuff up under his watch.

lol right. Monumental loser who wants a better job, power and pay.

Right. Nothing to see here really, except if you are an oppotunistic gang-greener.

Labor just lost any moral code they had left, which 'nothing to see here' either.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by skippy. on Nov 24th, 2011 at 1:54pm
Slipper has also resigned from the Libs, so the Libs have officially one less member. ;D ;D ;D Not a good day for Dr NO NO NO NO NO . ;D

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by Doctor Jolly on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:00pm

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 1:49pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 1:36pm:
Abbott wont be leader by the time parliment comes back in the new year.

This is a monumental stuff up under his watch.

lol right. Monumental loser who wants a better job, power and pay.

Right. Nothing to see here really, except if you are an oppotunistic gang-greener.

Labor just lost any moral code they had left, which 'nothing to see here' either.


Dont try and claim the moral ground.

From day 1, Gillard has chosen stability over chaos.
This is one more step in that direction.

If abbot had his way, we've had had about a half a dozen elections and plebicides this year.


Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by FriYAY on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:18pm
A Liberal MP in South Australia is in trouble over calling the Prime Minister "a real dog" in a comment posted on Twitter.

Mr Pengilly's slur was in response to a tweet which commented on Julia Gillard reportedly celebrating the Federal Government's move to replace speaker Harry Jenkins.

Woof! :D

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by froggie on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:18pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 12:51pm:
Where's Cods???????? ;)


Was just thinking the same thing.

Bet she comes back with something along the lines of....
"Well... I don't spend all day... on here like some...others do..."

Have to give prog a   [smiley=thumbup.gif]. as he did try to stick with it.
Even though he WAS crying bitterly towards the end.

;)

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by skippy. on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:25pm

Lobo wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:18pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 12:51pm:
Where's Cods???????? ;)


Was just thinking the same thing.

Bet she comes back with something along the lines of....
"Well... I don't spend all day... on here like some...others do..."

Have to give prog a   [smiley=thumbup.gif]. as he did try to stick with it.
Even though he WAS crying bitterly towards the end.

;)

True, none of the others had the guts to show their face.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:25pm

Doctor Jolly wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:00pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 1:49pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 1:36pm:
Abbott wont be leader by the time parliment comes back in the new year.

This is a monumental stuff up under his watch.

lol right. Monumental loser who wants a better job, power and pay.

Right. Nothing to see here really, except if you are an oppotunistic gang-greener.

Labor just lost any moral code they had left, which 'nothing to see here' either.


Dont try and claim the moral ground.

From day 1, Gillard has chosen stability over chaos.
This is one more step in that direction.

If abbot had his way, we've had had about a half a dozen elections and plebicides this year.

She has chosen to be a liar, a bully, name calling to people who do not believe her failed science and a right bit... So yeh, STABILITY over caos my A.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by Gist on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:28pm

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:25pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:00pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 1:49pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 1:36pm:
Abbott wont be leader by the time parliment comes back in the new year.

This is a monumental stuff up under his watch.

lol right. Monumental loser who wants a better job, power and pay.

Right. Nothing to see here really, except if you are an oppotunistic gang-greener.

Labor just lost any moral code they had left, which 'nothing to see here' either.


Dont try and claim the moral ground.

From day 1, Gillard has chosen stability over chaos.
This is one more step in that direction.

If abbot had his way, we've had had about a half a dozen elections and plebicides this year.

She has chosen to be a liar, a bully, name calling to people who do not believe her failed science and a right bit... So yeh, STABILITY over caos my A.


;D ;D ;D

lolly, you're in la la land as usual  ;D ;D

Full marks for hanging in there though. Your buddies have all cut and run and are hiding in their bunkers.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by FRED. on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:28pm

FriYAY wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:18pm:
A Liberal MP in South Australia is in trouble over calling the Prime Minister "a real dog" in a comment posted on Twitter.

Mr Pengilly's slur was in response to a tweet which commented on Julia Gillard reportedly celebrating the Federal Government's move to replace speaker Harry Jenkins.

Woof! :D


I think he ment   DINGO     SUITS THE BITCH TO A TEE   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by culldav on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:33pm
I think calling Juliar a 'real dog' is a compliment, because I think she is a lowlife common beer garden troll who scratches her pussy while throwing back one to many schooners.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:34pm

Gist wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:28pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:25pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:00pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 1:49pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 1:36pm:
Abbott wont be leader by the time parliment comes back in the new year.

This is a monumental stuff up under his watch.

lol right. Monumental loser who wants a better job, power and pay.

Right. Nothing to see here really, except if you are an oppotunistic gang-greener.

Labor just lost any moral code they had left, which 'nothing to see here' either.


Dont try and claim the moral ground.

From day 1, Gillard has chosen stability over chaos.
This is one more step in that direction.

If abbot had his way, we've had had about a half a dozen elections and plebicides this year.

She has chosen to be a liar, a bully, name calling to people who do not believe her failed science and a right bit... So yeh, STABILITY over caos my A.


;D ;D ;D

lolly, you're in la la land as usual  ;D ;D

Full marks for hanging in there though. Your buddies have all cut and run and are hiding in their bunkers.

Typical. Your problem, as well as many lefties who have mummy problems, think that silence means no-one has anything to say. You think because there is not a response in a particular time-frame, then people must be available to answer but are too afraid.

Tell mummy she will have to wait and you are going to allow your board buddies to come home from real work and get on the internet, in time.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:35pm

culldav wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:33pm:
I think calling Juliar a 'real dog' is a compliment, because I think she is a lowlife common beer garden troll who has scratched her pussy while throwing back one to many schooners.

Doing that at a socialist convention, will get you places.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by FRED. on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:37pm

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:35pm:

culldav wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:33pm:
I think calling Juliar a 'real dog' is a compliment, because I think she is a lowlife common beer garden troll who has scratched her pussy while throwing back one to many schooners.

Doing that at a socialist convention, will get you places.


How many LABOR SCALPS DOES SHE HAVE IN HER PUSSY BELT    ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by culldav on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:38pm
Did anyone see the look Obama gave when maggot mouth gave him the kiss?  He looked like he just got his face hoovered  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by skippy. on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:40pm
LOL funny how a set back brings out the worst in a rightard, I note the bitterness you are all expressing it just shows the behaviour of  immature whiny little bitches.I suppose with the likes of Abbott as a role model its to be expected. ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by culldav on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:40pm
I don't know how many Labor scalps she has in her pussy belt, but I was told growing up not to swim in a dirty duck pond.   ;D ;D

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:42pm

culldav wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:38pm:
Did anyone see the look Obama gave when maggot mouth gave him the kiss?  He looked like he just got his face hoovered  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Prob smelt like carpet, eeeeww.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by culldav on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:42pm

skippy. wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:40pm:
LOL funny how a set back brings out the worst in a rightard, I note the bitterness you are all expressing it just shows the behaviour of  immature whiny little bitches.I suppose with the likes of Abbott as a role model its to be expected. ;D ;D ;D


The only whiny little bitch around here $2 boy is you on your knees sucking my dick.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:42pm

skippy. wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:40pm:
LOL funny how a set back brings out the worst in a rightard, I note the bitterness you are all expressing it just shows the behaviour of  immature whiny little bitches.I suppose with the likes of Abbott as a role model its to be expected. ;D ;D ;D

It is all in fun skip. Just not your fun cause you see, today does  not change a thing.

The only thing it does change is that the greens or indies are on notice that one of them can be ignored.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by dsmithy70 on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:43pm

culldav wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:33pm:
I think calling Juliar a 'real dog' is a compliment, because I think she is a lowlife common beer garden troll who scratches her pussy while throwing back one to many schooners.


Do you teach your kids to hold that sort of attitude??
Probably best they are away from you being taught by better people.

Look at the last few posts LOL
Soundly out manouvered in the political game all they can do is post ugliness to try & save some sort of face for the Loser of the Opposition.

With a bit of luck the LIBERAL PARTY may now become its old self not the CONSERVATIVE party we see now with all it's bitter & foul attitudes.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by culldav on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:45pm
A lowlife beer garden troll is a superior roll model to a mad monk?

LOL  LOL  

I have heard about the race to the bottom, but this is....

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:45pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:43pm:

culldav wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:33pm:
I think calling Juliar a 'real dog' is a compliment, because I think she is a lowlife common beer garden troll who scratches her pussy while throwing back one to many schooners.


Do you teach your kids to hold that sort of attitude??
Probably best they are away from you being taught by better people.

Look at the last few posts LOL
Soundly out manouvered in the political game all they can do is post ugliness to try & save some sort of face for the Loser of the Opposition.

With a bit of luck the LIBERAL PARTY may now become its old self not the CONSERVATIVE party we see now with all it's bitter & foul attitudes.

The high and mighty postulant lefties. Put a male in power of labor, make him as bad as Gillard and you can expect some of the same toward a lying pri..

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by skippy. on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:45pm
With a bit of luck the LIBERAL PARTY may now become its old self not the CONSERVATIVE party we see now with all it's bitter & foul attitudes.  
 

That cant happen until they dump Abbott, and hopefully take Bishop with him,what a whiny bitch she is.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:46pm

skippy. wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:45pm:
With a bit of luck the LIBERAL PARTY may now become its old self not the CONSERVATIVE party we see now with all it's bitter & foul attitudes.  
 

That cant happen until they dump Abbott, and hopefully take Bishop with him,what a whiny bitch she is.

Still on with the Turnbull loser.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by culldav on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:49pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:43pm:

culldav wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:33pm:
I think calling Juliar a 'real dog' is a compliment, because I think she is a lowlife common beer garden troll who scratches her pussy while throwing back one to many schooners.


Do you teach your kids to hold that sort of attitude??
Probably best they are away from you being taught by better people.

Look at the last few posts LOL
Soundly out manouvered in the political game all they can do is post ugliness to try & save some sort of face for the Loser of the Opposition.

With a bit of luck the LIBERAL PARTY may now become its old self not the CONSERVATIVE party we see now with all it's bitter & foul attitudes.



Nice to know you think our democracy should be played like a common board game and not taken seriously. :-[ :-[

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by skippy. on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:49pm

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:46pm:

skippy. wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:45pm:
With a bit of luck the LIBERAL PARTY may now become its old self not the CONSERVATIVE party we see now with all it's bitter & foul attitudes.  
 

That cant happen until they dump Abbott, and hopefully take Bishop with him,what a whiny bitch she is.

Still on with the Turnbull loser.

Sooner, but I believe in your case later, you'll realise he is just about the Libs only chance back into gov, but I expect you have a lot more bitterness to exercise before that occurs. I did notice a slight smirk on Malcolm's face today tho, I think he understands the irony that you and Tony still dont recognise.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by skippy. on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:52pm

culldav wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:49pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:43pm:
[quote author=culldav link=1322086543/90#96 date=1322109236]I think calling Juliar a 'real dog' is a compliment, because I think she is a lowlife common beer garden troll who scratches her pussy while throwing back one to many schooners.


Do you teach your kids to hold that sort of attitude??
Probably best they are away from you being taught by better people.

Look at the last few posts LOL
Soundly out manouvered in the political game all they can do is post ugliness to try & save some sort of face for the Loser of the Opposition.

With a bit of luck the LIBERAL PARTY may now become its old self not the CONSERVATIVE party we see now with all it's bitter & foul attitudes.



Nice to know you think our democracy should be played like a common board game and not taken seriously. :-[ :-[/quote]
LOL when you get over your bitterness I think you'll realise the gov are entitled to elect who ever they like as speaker.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by Verge on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:53pm
Some are calling it a great move by the PM.

I personally think it is too.  This will more than likely lead Hockey to the big opposition chair, which will create headaches for the ALP.

Abbotts ability to create inroads has weakened over the past 6 weeks, and now the Coalition will be forced into a change.

A change that wont benefit the ALP.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by culldav on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:55pm

skippy. wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:52pm:

culldav wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:49pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:43pm:
[quote author=culldav link=1322086543/90#96 date=1322109236]I think calling Juliar a 'real dog' is a compliment, because I think she is a lowlife common beer garden troll who scratches her pussy while throwing back one to many schooners.


Do you teach your kids to hold that sort of attitude??
Probably best they are away from you being taught by better people.

Look at the last few posts LOL
Soundly out manouvered in the political game all they can do is post ugliness to try & save some sort of face for the Loser of the Opposition.

With a bit of luck the LIBERAL PARTY may now become its old self not the CONSERVATIVE party we see now with all it's bitter & foul attitudes.



Nice to know you think our democracy should be played like a common board game and not taken seriously. :-[ :-[/quote]
LOL when you get over your bitterness I think you'll realise the gov are entitled to elect who ever they like as speaker.



I'm not bitter, but sooner or later some of you WILL realise that politicians are the winners by taken away the people's democracy like they did with the carbon tax, and we the people are the losers for just letting them do it without any objections.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:56pm

Verge wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:53pm:
Some are calling it a great move by the PM.

I personally think it is too.  This will more than likely lead Hockey to the big opposition chair, which will create headaches for the ALP.

Abbotts ability to create inroads has weakened over the past 6 weeks, and now the Coalition will be forced into a change.

A change that wont benefit the ALP.


It has been that long since the last Labor policy stuff up.
Give them time though, I'm sure they can manage another before Christmas.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by culldav on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:58pm

Verge wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:53pm:
Some are calling it a great move by the PM.

I personally think it is too.  This will more than likely lead Hockey to the big opposition chair, which will create headaches for the ALP.

Abbotts ability to create inroads has weakened over the past 6 weeks, and now the Coalition will be forced into a change.

A change that wont benefit the ALP.



Many see this as the challenge Abbott had to have before the next election. Lets hope Turnbull puts up his hand. If he does, its bye, bye garden troll well before 2013

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by skippy. on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:59pm

culldav wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:55pm:

skippy. wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:52pm:

culldav wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:49pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:43pm:
[quote author=culldav link=1322086543/90#96 date=1322109236]I think calling Juliar a 'real dog' is a compliment, because I think she is a lowlife common beer garden troll who scratches her pussy while throwing back one to many schooners.


Do you teach your kids to hold that sort of attitude??
Probably best they are away from you being taught by better people.

Look at the last few posts LOL
Soundly out manouvered in the political game all they can do is post ugliness to try & save some sort of face for the Loser of the Opposition.

With a bit of luck the LIBERAL PARTY may now become its old self not the CONSERVATIVE party we see now with all it's bitter & foul attitudes.



Nice to know you think our democracy should be played like a common board game and not taken seriously. :-[ :-[/quote]
LOL when you get over your bitterness I think you'll realise the gov are entitled to elect who ever they like as speaker.



I'm not bitter, but sooner or later some of you WILL realise that politicians are the winners by taken away the people's democracy like they did with the carbon tax, and we the people are the losers for just letting them do it without any objections.

Oh I dont know about that, there seemed to be a few objections, but when people realise they wont be any worse off and in fact many will be better off, it will become a non event.
I actually think this week will go down as the game changer,I think Abbott realises that already, thats why he is so angry today.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by skippy. on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:01pm

culldav wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:58pm:

Verge wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:53pm:
Some are calling it a great move by the PM.

I personally think it is too.  This will more than likely lead Hockey to the big opposition chair, which will create headaches for the ALP.

Abbotts ability to create inroads has weakened over the past 6 weeks, and now the Coalition will be forced into a change.

A change that wont benefit the ALP.



Many see this as the challenge Abbott had to have before the next election. Lets hope Turnbull puts up his hand. If he does, its bye, bye garden troll well before 2013

I think the events of the last couple of weeks make that much more likely than it was a couple of months ago.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by Gist on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:02pm

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:34pm:
Typical. Your problem, as well as many lefties who have mummy problems, think that silence means no-one has anything to say. You think because there is not a response in a particular time-frame, then people must be available to answer but are too afraid.

Tell mummy she will have to wait and you are going to allow your board buddies to come home from real work and get on the internet, in time.


HEY CODS! SEE THAT?? HE'S SHOOTING THE MESSENGER!

What is it with you righties always shooting the messenger???  :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:03pm

Gist wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:02pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:34pm:
Typical. Your problem, as well as many lefties who have mummy problems, think that silence means no-one has anything to say. You think because there is not a response in a particular time-frame, then people must be available to answer but are too afraid.

Tell mummy she will have to wait and you are going to allow your board buddies to come home from real work and get on the internet, in time.


HEY CODS! SEE THAT?? HE'S SHOOTING THE MESSENGER!

What is it with you righties always shooting the messenger???  :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Your message, with your mummy issues in it, needed to be pointed out.

Tell you what. Here is your message disparaging me, being in la la land. No wonder you left it out like a true lefty. Just like Gillard.

Quote:
lolly, you're in la la land as usual  

Full marks for hanging in there though. Your buddies have all cut and run and are hiding in their bunkers.


Now stop with the mummy issues.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by dsmithy70 on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:06pm

culldav wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:49pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:43pm:
[quote author=culldav link=1322086543/90#96 date=1322109236]I think calling Juliar a 'real dog' is a compliment, because I think she is a lowlife common beer garden troll who scratches her pussy while throwing back one to many schooners.


Do you teach your kids to hold that sort of attitude??
Probably best they are away from you being taught by better people.

Look at the last few posts LOL
Soundly out manouvered in the political game all they can do is post ugliness to try & save some sort of face for the Loser of the Opposition.

With a bit of luck the LIBERAL PARTY may now become its old self not the CONSERVATIVE party we see now with all it's bitter & foul attitudes.



Nice to know you think our democracy should be played like a common board game and not taken seriously. :-[ :-[/quote]

So you had a moral problem with Colston in 96 did you?

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by cods on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:11pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:56pm:

Verge wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:53pm:
Some are calling it a great move by the PM.

I personally think it is too.  This will more than likely lead Hockey to the big opposition chair, which will create headaches for the ALP.

Abbotts ability to create inroads has weakened over the past 6 weeks, and now the Coalition will be forced into a change.

A change that wont benefit the ALP.


It has been that long since the last Labor policy stuff up.
Give them time though, I'm sure they can manage another before Christmas.




we should be that lucky the Xmas rush has already started except its on CHristmas Island... something like 5 boats since the weekend,.. the people smugglers are going for the guiness book of records..

and I think Jenkins is offering his services to the dept of immigration..he knows they need a lifebouy...and he will row them out of the storm and tempest they seem to have bogged themselves down in..

as for Abbott he thrives on this type of thing  they forgt he is an old pro and as much as they rave... they drad him being overturned who the hell will the blame for everything..poison ivy will be lost. its the only thing shes good at... the put down.her little bobbin heads love her for it.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by dsmithy70 on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:11pm

Verge wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:53pm:
Some are calling it a great move by the PM.

I personally think it is too.  This will more than likely lead Hockey to the big opposition chair, which will create headaches for the ALP.

Abbotts ability to create inroads has weakened over the past 6 weeks, and now the Coalition will be forced into a change.

A change that wont benefit the ALP.


I agree with you their Verge, I had high hopes for the Hockster but his performance under the headkicker has been less than stellar made all the worse by throwing his beliefs out the window & pushing the gutter politics of Abbott & Co.
Then again I suppose that was required & once the idiot is gone Joe will revert to his old self.
Disappointing but I suppose we all do it when necessary.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by cods on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:13pm

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:03pm:

Gist wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:02pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:34pm:
Typical. Your problem, as well as many lefties who have mummy problems, think that silence means no-one has anything to say. You think because there is not a response in a particular time-frame, then people must be available to answer but are too afraid.

Tell mummy she will have to wait and you are going to allow your board buddies to come home from real work and get on the internet, in time.


HEY CODS! SEE THAT?? HE'S SHOOTING THE MESSENGER!

What is it with you righties always shooting the messenger???  :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Your message, with your mummy issues in it, needed to be pointed out.

Tell you what. Here is your message disparaging me, being in la la land. No wonder you left it out like a true lefty. Just like Gillard.

Quote:
lolly, you're in la la land as usual  

Full marks for hanging in there though. Your buddies have all cut and run and are hiding in their bunkers.


Now stop with the mummy issues.




who are you talking too prog????... I only deal with intelligent or semi intelligent people..and believe me he aint one of them!

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:14pm

cods wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:13pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:03pm:

Gist wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:02pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:34pm:
Typical. Your problem, as well as many lefties who have mummy problems, think that silence means no-one has anything to say. You think because there is not a response in a particular time-frame, then people must be available to answer but are too afraid.

Tell mummy she will have to wait and you are going to allow your board buddies to come home from real work and get on the internet, in time.


HEY CODS! SEE THAT?? HE'S SHOOTING THE MESSENGER!

What is it with you righties always shooting the messenger???  :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Your message, with your mummy issues in it, needed to be pointed out.

Tell you what. Here is your message disparaging me, being in la la land. No wonder you left it out like a true lefty. Just like Gillard.

Quote:
lolly, you're in la la land as usual  

Full marks for hanging in there though. Your buddies have all cut and run and are hiding in their bunkers.


Now stop with the mummy issues.




who are you talking too prog????... I only deal with intelligent or semi intelligent people..and believe me he aint one of them!

gism I think

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by dsmithy70 on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:18pm

cods wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:11pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:56pm:

Verge wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:53pm:
Some are calling it a great move by the PM.

I personally think it is too.  This will more than likely lead Hockey to the big opposition chair, which will create headaches for the ALP.

Abbotts ability to create inroads has weakened over the past 6 weeks, and now the Coalition will be forced into a change.

A change that wont benefit the ALP.


It has been that long since the last Labor policy stuff up.
Give them time though, I'm sure they can manage another before Christmas.




we should be that lucky the Xmas rush has already started except its on CHristmas Island... something like 5 boats since the weekend,.. the people smugglers are going for the guiness book of records..

and I think Jenkins is offering his services to the dept of immigration..he knows they need a lifebouy...and he will row them out of the storm and tempest they seem to have bogged themselves down in..

as for Abbott he thrives on this type of thing  they forgt he is an old pro and as much as they rave... they drad him being overturned who the hell will the blame for everything..poison ivy will be lost. its the only thing shes good at... the put down.her little bobbin heads love her for it.



Oh, SENSATIONAL Diversion of topic there Cods.
Just beautiful, 5 threads on boaties but the Speakers thread is the place to discuss it.

"LOOK OVER THERE A SQUIRREL"

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRQ20wottX6PFVOxJU6hW_gGua_kES6xxk7RMt1tro0W0aTZxdPTw

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by Gist on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:19pm

cods wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:13pm:
who are you talking too prog????... I only deal with intelligent or semi intelligent people..and believe me he aint one of them!


Are you kidding? On any given day you can't stop ranting to anyone and everyone. You'd rant to the fence post if only it'd stop running away.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by Gist on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:21pm

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:03pm:
Now stop with the mummy issues.


Like I said, la la land.

Where have you been anyway lolly? You went missing for a while there. Was beginning to think you may have been sucked out of existence. I gather that's an occupational hazard for a lolly.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:23pm

Gist wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:21pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:03pm:
Now stop with the mummy issues.


Like I said, la la land.

Where have you been anyway lolly? You went missing for a while there. Was beginning to think you may have been sucked out of existence. I gather that's an occupational hazard for a lolly.

I did leave a hint. It is best to ignore the worst government in history and keep your sanity.

A change is as good as a holiday.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by cods on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:27pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:18pm:

cods wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:11pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:56pm:

Verge wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:53pm:
Some are calling it a great move by the PM.

I personally think it is too.  This will more than likely lead Hockey to the big opposition chair, which will create headaches for the ALP.

Abbotts ability to create inroads has weakened over the past 6 weeks, and now the Coalition will be forced into a change.

A change that wont benefit the ALP.


It has been that long since the last Labor policy stuff up.
Give them time though, I'm sure they can manage another before Christmas.




we should be that lucky the Xmas rush has already started except its on CHristmas Island... something like 5 boats since the weekend,.. the people smugglers are going for the guiness book of records..

and I think Jenkins is offering his services to the dept of immigration..he knows they need a lifebouy...and he will row them out of the storm and tempest they seem to have bogged themselves down in..

as for Abbott he thrives on this type of thing  they forgt he is an old pro and as much as they rave... they drad him being overturned who the hell will the blame for everything..poison ivy will be lost. its the only thing shes good at... the put down.her little bobbin heads love her for it.



Oh, SENSATIONAL Diversion of topic there Cods.
Just beautiful, 5 threads on boaties but the Speakers thread is the place to discuss it.

"LOOK OVER THERE A SQUIRREL"

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRQ20wottX6PFVOxJU6hW_gGua_kES6xxk7RMt1tro0W0aTZxdPTw





OH ONCE AGAIN YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND...


IT WAS A JOB SUGGESTION FOR HIM THAT IS ALL MY FRIEND..SORRY THE COMPREHENSON HASNT KICKED IN TODAY A BIT EARLY  FOR IR I GUESS

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by cods on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:29pm

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:23pm:

Gist wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:21pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:03pm:
Now stop with the mummy issues.


Like I said, la la land.

Where have you been anyway lolly? You went missing for a while there. Was beginning to think you may have been sucked out of existence. I gather that's an occupational hazard for a lolly.

I did leave a hint. It is best to ignore the worst government in history and keep your sanity.

A change is as good as a holiday.


DROP A BRICK AND THEY DONT COMPREHEND.PROG.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by FRED. on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:35pm

cods wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:29pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:23pm:

Gist wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:21pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:03pm:
Now stop with the mummy issues.


Like I said, la la land.

Where have you been anyway lolly? You went missing for a while there. Was beginning to think you may have been sucked out of existence. I gather that's an occupational hazard for a lolly.

I did leave a hint. It is best to ignore the worst government in history and keep your sanity.

A change is as good as a holiday.


DROP A BRICK AND THEY DONT COMPREHEND.PROG.



SLIPPER SLIPS INTO HIS LABOR  PLACE


Controversy
The colourful MP is no stranger to controversy, hitting the headlines in 2003 for being removed from a flight due to complaints from staff.

Mr Slipper blamed his behaviour on painkillers he had taken after dental surgery, but found himself in hot water again in 2008 for allegedly risking the lives of Defence Force personnel by giving away their position during a tour of the Persian Gulf.

He also infamously linked asylum seekers to terrorism in 2001 at the height of the Tampa controversy.

The Opposition is likely to use these indiscretions in attacks on their former colleague along with questions raised over his spending and entitlement claims.

Mr Slipper has had to pay back more than $20,000 in wrongly claimed entitlements since 1999.

It also emerged that he spent more than twice as much as Prime Minister Julia Gillard in travel expenses during the six months from July to December last year; racking up more than $31,000 in travel costs compared to Ms Gillard's $13,000.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:37pm

FRED. wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:35pm:

cods wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:29pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:23pm:

Gist wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:21pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:03pm:
Now stop with the mummy issues.


Like I said, la la land.

Where have you been anyway lolly? You went missing for a while there. Was beginning to think you may have been sucked out of existence. I gather that's an occupational hazard for a lolly.

I did leave a hint. It is best to ignore the worst government in history and keep your sanity.

A change is as good as a holiday.


DROP A BRICK AND THEY DONT COMPREHEND.PROG.



SLIPPER SLIPS INTO HIS LABOR  PLACE


Controversy
The colourful MP is no stranger to controversy, hitting the headlines in 2003 for being removed from a flight due to complaints from staff.

Mr Slipper blamed his behaviour on painkillers he had taken after dental surgery, but found himself in hot water again in 2008 for allegedly risking the lives of Defence Force personnel by giving away their position during a tour of the Persian Gulf.

He also infamously linked asylum seekers to terrorism in 2001 at the height of the Tampa controversy.

The Opposition is likely to use these indiscretions in attacks on their former colleague along with questions raised over his spending and entitlement claims.

Mr Slipper has had to pay back more than $20,000 in wrongly claimed entitlements since 1999.

It also emerged that he spent more than twice as much as Prime Minister Julia Gillard in travel expenses during the six months from July to December last year; racking up more than $31,000 in travel costs compared to Ms Gillard's $13,000.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Slipper is labor's problem now. They attract them don't they. Bit like the girl who attracts only drunks or the bloke who only attract transvestites.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by Doctor Jolly on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:38pm

FRED. wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:35pm:

cods wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:29pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:23pm:

Gist wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:21pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:03pm:
Now stop with the mummy issues.


Like I said, la la land.

Where have you been anyway lolly? You went missing for a while there. Was beginning to think you may have been sucked out of existence. I gather that's an occupational hazard for a lolly.

I did leave a hint. It is best to ignore the worst government in history and keep your sanity.

A change is as good as a holiday.


DROP A BRICK AND THEY DONT COMPREHEND.PROG.



SLIPPER SLIPS INTO HIS LABOR  PLACE


Controversy
The colourful MP is no stranger to controversy, hitting the headlines in 2003 for being removed from a flight due to complaints from staff.

Mr Slipper blamed his behaviour on painkillers he had taken after dental surgery, but found himself in hot water again in 2008 for allegedly risking the lives of Defence Force personnel by giving away their position during a tour of the Persian Gulf.

He also infamously linked asylum seekers to terrorism in 2001 at the height of the Tampa controversy.

The Opposition is likely to use these indiscretions in attacks on their former colleague along with questions raised over his spending and entitlement claims.


These all sound like standard liberal party operation normal.

Remember he's not joining the labor party. He wont vote in their favour for anything. He's an independent, pissed off with the nutcase liberals.  End of story.


Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by FriYAY on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:47pm
The opposition will turn question time into more of a farce than it usually is.

Slipper as speaker will be untenable. Every Lib will be out to disparage, dig dirt and make his life a general misery.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by dsmithy70 on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:53pm

FriYAY wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:47pm:
The opposition will turn question time into more of a farce than it usually is.

Slipper as speaker will be untenable. Every Lib will be out to disparage, dig dirt and make his life a general misery.


Then the opposition benches will be empty wont they.
The tanty continues & just gets louder.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by Gist on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:54pm

FriYAY wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:47pm:
The opposition will turn question time into more of a farce than it usually is.

Slipper as speaker will be untenable. Every Lib will be out to disparage, dig dirt and make his life a general misery.


And get turfed out for their trouble. I gather he's turfed out 4 Libs already.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by Doctor Jolly on Nov 24th, 2011 at 4:03pm

The liberal party continues to embarrass itself with more childish behaviour

What a disgrace this once proud pillar of Australian governance has become.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by dsmithy70 on Nov 24th, 2011 at 4:06pm

Doctor Jolly wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 4:03pm:
The liberal party continues to embarrass itself with more childish behaviour

What a disgrace this once proud pillar of Australian governance has become.


As posted before this will continue until Abbott is turfed.
Sadly a good amount think his the Messiah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plZRe1kPWZw

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by cods on Nov 24th, 2011 at 4:29pm

FRED. wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:35pm:

cods wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:29pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:23pm:

Gist wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:21pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:03pm:
Now stop with the mummy issues.


Like I said, la la land.

Where have you been anyway lolly? You went missing for a while there. Was beginning to think you may have been sucked out of existence. I gather that's an occupational hazard for a lolly.

I did leave a hint. It is best to ignore the worst government in history and keep your sanity.

A change is as good as a holiday.


DROP A BRICK AND THEY DONT COMPREHEND.PROG.



SLIPPER SLIPS INTO HIS LABOR  PLACE


Controversy
The colourful MP is no stranger to controversy, hitting the headlines in 2003 for being removed from a flight due to complaints from staff.

Mr Slipper blamed his behaviour on painkillers he had taken after dental surgery, but found himself in hot water again in 2008 for allegedly risking the lives of Defence Force personnel by giving away their position during a tour of the Persian Gulf.

He also infamously linked asylum seekers to terrorism in 2001 at the height of the Tampa controversy.

The Opposition is likely to use these indiscretions in attacks on their former colleague along with questions raised over his spending and entitlement claims.

Mr Slipper has had to pay back more than $20,000 in wrongly claimed entitlements since 1999.

It also emerged that he spent more than twice as much as Prime Minister Julia Gillard in travel expenses during the six months from July to December last year; racking up more than $31,000 in travel costs compared to Ms Gillard's $13,000. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D




Hilarious!!!


AND THIS IS A GUY EVERYONE IS EXPECTED TO ACCEPT AS THE UMPIRE...SOMEONE WITHOUT PREJUDICE  [damn]. some who cant obviously control himself.. but should do a good job of controlling others.. all at an extra $75.000 a year...gosh hope the old GG didnt mind dirtying her hands on this one.



dare anyone ask... what the hell was he using for tranport?? and why?

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 24th, 2011 at 4:31pm

cods wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 4:29pm:

FRED. wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:35pm:

cods wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:29pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:23pm:

Gist wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:21pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:03pm:
Now stop with the mummy issues.


Like I said, la la land.

Where have you been anyway lolly? You went missing for a while there. Was beginning to think you may have been sucked out of existence. I gather that's an occupational hazard for a lolly.

I did leave a hint. It is best to ignore the worst government in history and keep your sanity.

A change is as good as a holiday.


DROP A BRICK AND THEY DONT COMPREHEND.PROG.



SLIPPER SLIPS INTO HIS LABOR  PLACE


Controversy
The colourful MP is no stranger to controversy, hitting the headlines in 2003 for being removed from a flight due to complaints from staff.

Mr Slipper blamed his behaviour on painkillers he had taken after dental surgery, but found himself in hot water again in 2008 for allegedly risking the lives of Defence Force personnel by giving away their position during a tour of the Persian Gulf.

He also infamously linked asylum seekers to terrorism in 2001 at the height of the Tampa controversy.

The Opposition is likely to use these indiscretions in attacks on their former colleague along with questions raised over his spending and entitlement claims.

Mr Slipper has had to pay back more than $20,000 in wrongly claimed entitlements since 1999.

It also emerged that he spent more than twice as much as Prime Minister Julia Gillard in travel expenses during the six months from July to December last year; racking up more than $31,000 in travel costs compared to Ms Gillard's $13,000. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D




Hilarious!!!


AND THIS IS A GUY EVERYONE IS EXPECTED TO ACCEPT AS THE UMPIRE...SOMEONE WITHOUT PREJUDICE  [damn]. some who cant obviously control himself.. but should do a good job of controlling others.. all at an extra $75.000 a year...gosh hope the old GG didnt mind dirtying her hands on this one.



dare anyone ask... what the hell was he using for tranport?? and why?

The monster (traitor with no morals) is well and truely in charge of the cookie jar now, thanks to labor.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by Gist on Nov 24th, 2011 at 4:32pm

cods wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 4:29pm:

FRED. wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:35pm:

cods wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:29pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:23pm:

Gist wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:21pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:03pm:
Now stop with the mummy issues.


Like I said, la la land.

Where have you been anyway lolly? You went missing for a while there. Was beginning to think you may have been sucked out of existence. I gather that's an occupational hazard for a lolly.

I did leave a hint. It is best to ignore the worst government in history and keep your sanity.

A change is as good as a holiday.


DROP A BRICK AND THEY DONT COMPREHEND.PROG.



SLIPPER SLIPS INTO HIS LABOR  PLACE


Controversy
The colourful MP is no stranger to controversy, hitting the headlines in 2003 for being removed from a flight due to complaints from staff.

Mr Slipper blamed his behaviour on painkillers he had taken after dental surgery, but found himself in hot water again in 2008 for allegedly risking the lives of Defence Force personnel by giving away their position during a tour of the Persian Gulf.

He also infamously linked asylum seekers to terrorism in 2001 at the height of the Tampa controversy.

The Opposition is likely to use these indiscretions in attacks on their former colleague along with questions raised over his spending and entitlement claims.

Mr Slipper has had to pay back more than $20,000 in wrongly claimed entitlements since 1999.

It also emerged that he spent more than twice as much as Prime Minister Julia Gillard in travel expenses during the six months from July to December last year; racking up more than $31,000 in travel costs compared to Ms Gillard's $13,000. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D




Hilarious!!!


AND THIS IS A GUY EVERYONE IS EXPECTED TO ACCEPT AS THE UMPIRE...SOMEONE WITHOUT PREJUDICE  [damn]. some who cant obviously control himself.. but should do a good job of controlling others.. all at an extra $75.000 a year...gosh hope the old GG didnt mind dirtying her hands on this one.



dare anyone ask... what the hell was he using for tranport?? and why?


Well cods, IF TONY HAD HAD HALF A BRAIN we wouldn't BE in this predicament would we??  ;D ;D

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by cods on Nov 24th, 2011 at 4:37pm

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 4:31pm:

cods wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 4:29pm:

FRED. wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:35pm:

cods wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:29pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:23pm:

Gist wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:21pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:03pm:
Now stop with the mummy issues.


Like I said, la la land.

Where have you been anyway lolly? You went missing for a while there. Was beginning to think you may have been sucked out of existence. I gather that's an occupational hazard for a lolly.

I did leave a hint. It is best to ignore the worst government in history and keep your sanity.

A change is as good as a holiday.


DROP A BRICK AND THEY DONT COMPREHEND.PROG.



SLIPPER SLIPS INTO HIS LABOR  PLACE


Controversy
The colourful MP is no stranger to controversy, hitting the headlines in 2003 for being removed from a flight due to complaints from staff.

Mr Slipper blamed his behaviour on painkillers he had taken after dental surgery, but found himself in hot water again in 2008 for allegedly risking the lives of Defence Force personnel by giving away their position during a tour of the Persian Gulf.

He also infamously linked asylum seekers to terrorism in 2001 at the height of the Tampa controversy.

The Opposition is likely to use these indiscretions in attacks on their former colleague along with questions raised over his spending and entitlement claims.

Mr Slipper has had to pay back more than $20,000 in wrongly claimed entitlements since 1999.

It also emerged that he spent more than twice as much as Prime Minister Julia Gillard in travel expenses during the six months from July to December last year; racking up more than $31,000 in travel costs compared to Ms Gillard's $13,000. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D




Hilarious!!!


AND THIS IS A GUY EVERYONE IS EXPECTED TO ACCEPT AS THE UMPIRE...SOMEONE WITHOUT PREJUDICE  [damn]. some who cant obviously control himself.. but should do a good job of controlling others.. all at an extra $75.000 a year...gosh hope the old GG didnt mind dirtying her hands on this one.



dare anyone ask... what the hell was he using for tranport?? and why?

The monster (traitor with no morals) is well and truely in charge of the cookie jar now, thanks to labor.



one wonders what has happened to parliament in this country...since this lot got in.. deviousness seems to be the go..I would really like to be able to believe in our polliticians..but in all truth not anymore.

to many deal.. and behind the scenes actions.. I dont think its right at all. looks to me like they are more concerned for themselves than any of us..

maybe she is getting ready to dump the pokie reform.or something that will not go down well with her independents..and she needs the buffer   or should we be watching THOMO maybe that little boil is coming to a head.....

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by FriYAY on Nov 24th, 2011 at 4:38pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:53pm:

FriYAY wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:47pm:
The opposition will turn question time into more of a farce than it usually is.

Slipper as speaker will be untenable. Every Lib will be out to disparage, dig dirt and make his life a general misery.


Then the opposition benches will be empty wont they.
The tanty continues & just gets louder.


LOL, i couldn't care less if they all get thrown out.

It was just a comment, save your partisan dribble.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by FriYAY on Nov 24th, 2011 at 4:39pm

Gist wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:54pm:

FriYAY wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:47pm:
The opposition will turn question time into more of a farce than it usually is.

Slipper as speaker will be untenable. Every Lib will be out to disparage, dig dirt and make his life a general misery.


And get turfed out for their trouble. I gather he's turfed out 4 Libs already.


I don't care.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by Grey on Nov 24th, 2011 at 4:43pm

wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:54am:

Grey wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:43am:
Hahahaha Tony is sooo funny. If there's a crisis int the government who's keeping the smile off of his face? He's the leader of the desolation rows.



If the government is in 'crisis' then what state is the Opposition  ;D?


Well as we've seen in parliment, they're in melt down. Tony is doing what he does best, dummy spit. I thought he was going to cry more than once.  ;D He certainly needs some meds. The lunatic makes Mark Latham look self controlled. Leader of the country? He wouldn't even get to be a mod on this forum.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by pansi1951 on Nov 24th, 2011 at 4:48pm
It's like kids in the playground and your best friend has gone to play with the other kids bwahahahaha !!!!!!!


KARNAL!!!!!

Is matty alright? Can you check on him please?


Take him out to dinner tonight, he might need some TLC.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by Gist on Nov 24th, 2011 at 4:53pm

cods wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 4:37pm:
one wonders what has happened to parliament in this country...since this lot got in.. deviousness seems to be the go..I would really like to be able to believe in our polliticians..but in all truth not anymore.

to many deal.. and behind the scenes actions.. I dont think its right at all. looks to me like they are more concerned for themselves than any of us..

maybe she is getting ready to dump the pokie reform.or something that will not go down well with her independents..and she needs the buffer   or should we be watching THOMO maybe that little boil is coming to a head.....


It's a smart move. They've been negotiating (there's that word again) this deal for weeks at least. Probably since day one of the parliament. Labor never wanted Jenkins as speaker, they just couldn't find anyone else to fill the spot. Now they have.

An as I said before cods, Thompson hasn't even been charged. If he is then that still doesn't change anything. He would need to go to trial. Meanwhile he would be quite entitled to maintain his position just the same as Mary Jo was when her case was before the courts. Look how they managed to drag out that simple assault charge for a week. The Thompson case would be orders of magnitude more complicated. Imagine how long that will run - and then there'd likely be appeals. All that would take ages and we'd be well down the road to the next election and beyond.

Think what you like about Thompson but you can pretty safely kiss goodbye any hopes you have for that one being a game changer.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by adelcrow on Nov 24th, 2011 at 4:54pm
Its just as I said..2 yrs is a long time until the next election and its anyones guess what will happen. As it happens Julia has trumped One Trick Tony a la Howard trumping Labor with Mal Colsten.
All Abbott could do was yell like a spoilt private school boy that lost his silver spoon  ;D

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by longweekend58 on Nov 24th, 2011 at 5:06pm

Gist wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 4:53pm:

cods wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 4:37pm:
one wonders what has happened to parliament in this country...since this lot got in.. deviousness seems to be the go..I would really like to be able to believe in our polliticians..but in all truth not anymore.

to many deal.. and behind the scenes actions.. I dont think its right at all. looks to me like they are more concerned for themselves than any of us..

maybe she is getting ready to dump the pokie reform.or something that will not go down well with her independents..and she needs the buffer   or should we be watching THOMO maybe that little boil is coming to a head.....


It's a smart move. They've been negotiating (there's that word again) this deal for weeks at least. Probably since day one of the parliament. Labor never wanted Jenkins as speaker, they just couldn't find anyone else to fill the spot. Now they have.

An as I said before cods, Thompson hasn't even been charged. If he is then that still doesn't change anything. He would need to go to trial. Meanwhile he would be quite entitled to maintain his position just the same as Mary Jo was when her case was before the courts. Look how they managed to drag out that simple assault charge for a week. The Thompson case would be orders of magnitude more complicated. Imagine how long that will run - and then there'd likely be appeals. All that would take ages and we'd be well down the road to the next election and beyond.

Think what you like about Thompson but you can pretty safely kiss goodbye any hopes you have for that one being a game changer.


Im sure they have been negotiating this for a while. But how does that in any way make this ethical? it is UNPRECEDENTED to have an opposition MP as Speaker and this guy is thoroughy tarnished. What happened to the days where a government would expect their Speaker to be the BEST of the best not the dregs of the other side? This is clever politics, no doubt but it is gutter politics, the type of while Julia the LIAR specialises. There really is nothing she would not do for power. The next election may now be 18months away but at the rate of ethical disintigration of the ALP this 18months may put the coalition in power for the rest of our lives.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by longweekend58 on Nov 24th, 2011 at 5:08pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:06pm:

culldav wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:49pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:43pm:
[quote author=culldav link=1322086543/90#96 date=1322109236]I think calling Juliar a 'real dog' is a compliment, because I think she is a lowlife common beer garden troll who scratches her pussy while throwing back one to many schooners.


Do you teach your kids to hold that sort of attitude??
Probably best they are away from you being taught by better people.

Look at the last few posts LOL
Soundly out manouvered in the political game all they can do is post ugliness to try & save some sort of face for the Loser of the Opposition.

With a bit of luck the LIBERAL PARTY may now become its old self not the CONSERVATIVE party we see now with all it's bitter & foul attitudes.



Nice to know you think our democracy should be played like a common board game and not taken seriously. :-[ :-[/quote]

So you had a moral problem with Colston in 96 did you?


You mean the Colston, whose senate vote Howard REFUSED TO ACCEPT? can u imagine Gillard doing that? she already takes a vote from an embezzler.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by adelcrow on Nov 24th, 2011 at 5:11pm
Im sure Labor wasnt happy when Mal Colsten went over to the dark side and supported Howard for a good belly scratch every now and then.
Honestly Longy..you really didnt think Labor wouldnt try and shore themselves up and once thats done they will be putting things in place to woo voters at the next election..after all..they have 2 yrs to execute their plans  :D

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by longweekend58 on Nov 24th, 2011 at 5:11pm

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:37pm:

FRED. wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:35pm:

cods wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:29pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:23pm:

Gist wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:21pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:03pm:
Now stop with the mummy issues.


Like I said, la la land.

Where have you been anyway lolly? You went missing for a while there. Was beginning to think you may have been sucked out of existence. I gather that's an occupational hazard for a lolly.

I did leave a hint. It is best to ignore the worst government in history and keep your sanity.

A change is as good as a holiday.


DROP A BRICK AND THEY DONT COMPREHEND.PROG.



SLIPPER SLIPS INTO HIS LABOR  PLACE


Controversy
The colourful MP is no stranger to controversy, hitting the headlines in 2003 for being removed from a flight due to complaints from staff.

Mr Slipper blamed his behaviour on painkillers he had taken after dental surgery, but found himself in hot water again in 2008 for allegedly risking the lives of Defence Force personnel by giving away their position during a tour of the Persian Gulf.

He also infamously linked asylum seekers to terrorism in 2001 at the height of the Tampa controversy.

The Opposition is likely to use these indiscretions in attacks on their former colleague along with questions raised over his spending and entitlement claims.

Mr Slipper has had to pay back more than $20,000 in wrongly claimed entitlements since 1999.

It also emerged that he spent more than twice as much as Prime Minister Julia Gillard in travel expenses during the six months from July to December last year; racking up more than $31,000 in travel costs compared to Ms Gillard's $13,000.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Slipper is labor's problem now. They attract them don't they. Bit like the girl who attracts only drunks or the bloke who only attract transvestites.


in 2002 a liberal changed sides immediately post election to install a rann minority govt and got the speakers position as a bribe. Peter Lewis was not dissimilar to Peter SLipper in bing up to his neck in controversy and illegaility. when Labor MPs complained about his erratic cna pompous behaviour, Libs just smiled and said "you wanted him. now he is YOUR problem!"

here we go again!

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by adelcrow on Nov 24th, 2011 at 5:12pm

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 5:08pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:06pm:

culldav wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:49pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:43pm:
[quote author=culldav link=1322086543/90#96 date=1322109236]I think calling Juliar a 'real dog' is a compliment, because I think she is a lowlife common beer garden troll who scratches her pussy while throwing back one to many schooners.


Do you teach your kids to hold that sort of attitude??
Probably best they are away from you being taught by better people.

Look at the last few posts LOL
Soundly out manouvered in the political game all they can do is post ugliness to try & save some sort of face for the Loser of the Opposition.

With a bit of luck the LIBERAL PARTY may now become its old self not the CONSERVATIVE party we see now with all it's bitter & foul attitudes.



Nice to know you think our democracy should be played like a common board game and not taken seriously. :-[ :-[/quote]

So you had a moral problem with Colston in 96 did you?


You mean the Colston, whose senate vote Howard REFUSED TO ACCEPT? can u imagine Gillard doing that? she already takes a vote from an embezzler.


Who is the embezzler?

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by longweekend58 on Nov 24th, 2011 at 5:16pm

adelcrow wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 5:11pm:
Im sure Labor wasnt happy when Mal Colsten went over to the dark side and supported Howard for a good belly scratch every now and then.
Honestly Longy..you really didnt think Labor wouldnt try and shore themselves up and once thats done they will be putting things in place to woo voters at the next election..after all..they have 2 yrs to execute their plans  :D


Do you remember Howards opinion of Colston at the time? No, I'm sure you didnt. a man of integrity, he denounced the man and his actions. Thats what STATESMEN do. mere politicians like Gillard grasp anythignn that comes their way - ethical or not.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by longweekend58 on Nov 24th, 2011 at 5:18pm

adelcrow wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 5:12pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 5:08pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:06pm:

culldav wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:49pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 2:43pm:
[quote author=culldav link=1322086543/90#96 date=1322109236]I think calling Juliar a 'real dog' is a compliment, because I think she is a lowlife common beer garden troll who scratches her pussy while throwing back one to many schooners.


Do you teach your kids to hold that sort of attitude??
Probably best they are away from you being taught by better people.

Look at the last few posts LOL
Soundly out manouvered in the political game all they can do is post ugliness to try & save some sort of face for the Loser of the Opposition.

With a bit of luck the LIBERAL PARTY may now become its old self not the CONSERVATIVE party we see now with all it's bitter & foul attitudes.



Nice to know you think our democracy should be played like a common board game and not taken seriously. :-[ :-[/quote]

So you had a moral problem with Colston in 96 did you?


You mean the Colston, whose senate vote Howard REFUSED TO ACCEPT? can u imagine Gillard doing that? she already takes a vote from an embezzler.


Who is the embezzler?


since you cant even count, I wont tax you with an answer that will require more than you can bring to the party.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by Grey on Nov 24th, 2011 at 5:18pm

Quote:
Im sure they have been negotiating this for a while. But how does that in any way make this ethical? it is UNPRECEDENTED to have an opposition MP as Speaker and this guy is thoroughy tarnished. What happened to the days where a government would expect their Speaker to be the BEST of the best not the dregs of the other side? This is clever politics, no doubt but it is gutter politics, the type of while Julia the LIAR specialises. There really is nothing she would not do for power. The next election may now be 18months away but at the rate of ethical disintigration of the ALP this 18months may put the coalition in power for the rest of our lives.


Slipper is not an opposition MP he's an independent and that means it's not the ALP that's disintegrating but the LNP. And your leader is coming apart at the seams faster than the hindenburg ;D

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by longweekend58 on Nov 24th, 2011 at 5:22pm

Grey wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 5:18pm:

Quote:
Im sure they have been negotiating this for a while. But how does that in any way make this ethical? it is UNPRECEDENTED to have an opposition MP as Speaker and this guy is thoroughy tarnished. What happened to the days where a government would expect their Speaker to be the BEST of the best not the dregs of the other side? This is clever politics, no doubt but it is gutter politics, the type of while Julia the LIAR specialises. There really is nothing she would not do for power. The next election may now be 18months away but at the rate of ethical disintigration of the ALP this 18months may put the coalition in power for the rest of our lives.


Slipper is not an opposition MP he's an independent and that means it's not the ALP that's disintegrating but the LNP. And your leader is coming apart at the seams faster than the hindenburg ;D


very clever. now I wait for you to tell me Wayne Swan is an independent. Slipper is a coalition MP you twit.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by adelcrow on Nov 24th, 2011 at 5:27pm

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 5:22pm:

Grey wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 5:18pm:

Quote:
Im sure they have been negotiating this for a while. But how does that in any way make this ethical? it is UNPRECEDENTED to have an opposition MP as Speaker and this guy is thoroughy tarnished. What happened to the days where a government would expect their Speaker to be the BEST of the best not the dregs of the other side? This is clever politics, no doubt but it is gutter politics, the type of while Julia the LIAR specialises. There really is nothing she would not do for power. The next election may now be 18months away but at the rate of ethical disintigration of the ALP this 18months may put the coalition in power for the rest of our lives.


Slipper is not an opposition MP he's an independent and that means it's not the ALP that's disintegrating but the LNP. And your leader is coming apart at the seams faster than the hindenburg ;D


very clever. now I wait for you to tell me Wayne Swan is an independent. Slipper is a coalition MP you twit.


Correction...was a Coalition MP, he resigned from the LNP and became an Independent after he took up the position of speaker and they were going to bone him at the next election and stick Mal Brough in his seat anyway. So Slipper has everything to gain and nothing to lose from jumping the sinking,  rat infested Coalition ship  :D

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by longweekend58 on Nov 24th, 2011 at 5:31pm

adelcrow wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 5:27pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 5:22pm:

Grey wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 5:18pm:

Quote:
Im sure they have been negotiating this for a while. But how does that in any way make this ethical? it is UNPRECEDENTED to have an opposition MP as Speaker and this guy is thoroughy tarnished. What happened to the days where a government would expect their Speaker to be the BEST of the best not the dregs of the other side? This is clever politics, no doubt but it is gutter politics, the type of while Julia the LIAR specialises. There really is nothing she would not do for power. The next election may now be 18months away but at the rate of ethical disintigration of the ALP this 18months may put the coalition in power for the rest of our lives.


Slipper is not an opposition MP he's an independent and that means it's not the ALP that's disintegrating but the LNP. And your leader is coming apart at the seams faster than the hindenburg ;D


very clever. now I wait for you to tell me Wayne Swan is an independent. Slipper is a coalition MP you twit.


Correction...was a Coalition MP, he resigned from the LNP and became an Independent after he took up the position of speaker and they were going to bone him at the next election and stick Mal Brough in his seat anyway. So Slipper has everything to gain and nothing to lose from jumping the sinking,  rat infested Coalition ship  :D


read up on Slipper and then tell me how good he is. there is a good reason why he is being effectively ejected from the party. the difference is we eject the bad apples that get in the door. Your lot KEEPS them. and even worse preselects them knowing it.

pass. Getting rid of Slipper is a good thing and just like Peter Lewis from SA he will spend a very brief and inglorious moment in the sun hated by all until he is removed from parliament and then to be shunned by everyone from both sides.

and nothing really changes anyhow. a few deck chairs move around but the titanic still has the same captain.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by Gist on Nov 24th, 2011 at 5:36pm

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 5:06pm:
Im sure they have been negotiating this for a while. But how does that in any way make this ethical? it is UNPRECEDENTED to have an opposition MP as Speaker and this guy is thoroughy tarnished. What happened to the days where a government would expect their Speaker to be the BEST of the best not the dregs of the other side? This is clever politics, no doubt but it is gutter politics, the type of while Julia the LIAR specialises. There really is nothing she would not do for power. The next election may now be 18months away but at the rate of ethical disintigration of the ALP this 18months may put the coalition in power for the rest of our lives.


Adel answered the question longy. Slipper announced his resignation from the Libs to the parliament so he's now an independent. Oakshott even welcomed him as a new independent.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by Grey on Nov 24th, 2011 at 5:37pm

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 5:31pm:

adelcrow wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 5:27pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 5:22pm:

Grey wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 5:18pm:

Quote:
Im sure they have been negotiating this for a while. But how does that in any way make this ethical? it is UNPRECEDENTED to have an opposition MP as Speaker and this guy is thoroughy tarnished. What happened to the days where a government would expect their Speaker to be the BEST of the best not the dregs of the other side? This is clever politics, no doubt but it is gutter politics, the type of while Julia the LIAR specialises. There really is nothing she would not do for power. The next election may now be 18months away but at the rate of ethical disintigration of the ALP this 18months may put the coalition in power for the rest of our lives.


Slipper is not an opposition MP he's an independent and that means it's not the ALP that's disintegrating but the LNP. And your leader is coming apart at the seams faster than the hindenburg ;D


very clever. now I wait for you to tell me Wayne Swan is an independent. Slipper is a coalition MP you twit.


Correction...was a Coalition MP, he resigned from the LNP and became an Independent after he took up the position of speaker and they were going to bone him at the next election and stick Mal Brough in his seat anyway. So Slipper has everything to gain and nothing to lose from jumping the sinking,  rat infested Coalition ship  :D


read up on Slipper and then tell me how good he is. there is a good reason why he is being effectively ejected from the party. the difference is we eject the bad apples that get in the door. Your lot KEEPS them. and even worse preselects them knowing it.

pass. Getting rid of Slipper is a good thing and just like Peter Lewis from SA he will spend a very brief and inglorious moment in the sun hated by all until he is removed from parliament and then to be shunned by everyone from both sides.

and nothing really changes anyhow. a few deck chairs move around but the titanic still has the same captain.


Thank the Universe for that. If Titanic Australia had a different skipper it'd keep hitting icebergs like that other one.  ;D

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by Grey on Nov 24th, 2011 at 5:39pm
And what's more Slipper anounced his intention of standing again at the next election.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by longweekend58 on Nov 24th, 2011 at 5:40pm

Grey wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 5:37pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 5:31pm:

adelcrow wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 5:27pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 5:22pm:

Grey wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 5:18pm:

Quote:
Im sure they have been negotiating this for a while. But how does that in any way make this ethical? it is UNPRECEDENTED to have an opposition MP as Speaker and this guy is thoroughy tarnished. What happened to the days where a government would expect their Speaker to be the BEST of the best not the dregs of the other side? This is clever politics, no doubt but it is gutter politics, the type of while Julia the LIAR specialises. There really is nothing she would not do for power. The next election may now be 18months away but at the rate of ethical disintigration of the ALP this 18months may put the coalition in power for the rest of our lives.


Slipper is not an opposition MP he's an independent and that means it's not the ALP that's disintegrating but the LNP. And your leader is coming apart at the seams faster than the hindenburg ;D


very clever. now I wait for you to tell me Wayne Swan is an independent. Slipper is a coalition MP you twit.


Correction...was a Coalition MP, he resigned from the LNP and became an Independent after he took up the position of speaker and they were going to bone him at the next election and stick Mal Brough in his seat anyway. So Slipper has everything to gain and nothing to lose from jumping the sinking,  rat infested Coalition ship  :D


read up on Slipper and then tell me how good he is. there is a good reason why he is being effectively ejected from the party. the difference is we eject the bad apples that get in the door. Your lot KEEPS them. and even worse preselects them knowing it.

pass. Getting rid of Slipper is a good thing and just like Peter Lewis from SA he will spend a very brief and inglorious moment in the sun hated by all until he is removed from parliament and then to be shunned by everyone from both sides.

and nothing really changes anyhow. a few deck chairs move around but the titanic still has the same captain.


Thank the Universe for that. If Titanic Australia had a different skipper it'd keep hitting icebergs like that other one.  ;D


like a typically under-educated labor supporter, the metaphor escapes you.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by Gist on Nov 24th, 2011 at 5:41pm

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 5:31pm:
and nothing really changes anyhow. a few deck chairs move around but the titanic still has the same captain.


You wish, but you know better. Gillard now has more breathing space and more manouvering options. Abbott on the other hand has major egg on his face and his party must be muttering behind his back.


Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by Grey on Nov 24th, 2011 at 5:45pm

Quote:
Like a typically under-educated labor supporter, the metaphor escapes you.


Like (boy what a writer) comparing the unsinkable ship that sunk at the first obstacle to one that overcomes all obstacles thanks to the adroitness of its skipper?

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by longweekend58 on Nov 24th, 2011 at 7:03pm

Grey wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 5:45pm:

Quote:
Like a typically under-educated labor supporter, the metaphor escapes you.


Like (boy what a writer) comparing the unsinkable ship that sunk at the first obstacle to one that overcomes all obstacles thanks to the adroitness of its skipper?


You do know that the iceberg is stil directly in front???

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by adelcrow on Nov 24th, 2011 at 7:11pm
Abbotts colleagues are pretty ticked off that he did nothing to keep Slipper in the fold.
He had plenty of time to call off the LNP dogs that were determined to get rid of Slipper at the next election.
One of Abbotts big failings is that he cannot negotiate on a professional level and it will be his undoing.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by longweekend58 on Nov 24th, 2011 at 7:21pm

adelcrow wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 7:11pm:
Abbotts colleagues are pretty ticked off that he did nothing to keep Slipper in the fold.
He had plenty of time to call off the LNP dogs that were determined to get rid of Slipper at the next election.
One of Abbotts big failings is that he cannot negotiate on a professional level and it will be his undoing.


or maybe his personal integrity demands that he not tolerate the likes of Slipper. I know the concept is scarcely understood on her but some people DO have standards. SOME parties punish its ill-doers. Others like the ALP dont, hence the conga line into prison.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by adelcrow on Nov 24th, 2011 at 7:23pm
No one gets to the top positions in the Labor or Liberal Parties if they have any personal integrity.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by pansi1951 on Nov 25th, 2011 at 6:07am
There are 12 threads on the front page of Politicians Suck started by Liberal lovers, all bellowing about the fall of the labor party following yesterdays debacle.

Yesterday, the Liberals come off second best by a long shot.

Never underestimate the the manipulative power of a woman, they will always outsmart a man, not that Tony is too smart in the 'one step ahead' department anyway.

Get over it and get used to it libs, Gillard will always have it over Tony, he's too slow to keep up with her, let alone outplay her.

Good one Gillard, I like your style.

Make another thread about it righties, if it makes you feel better, but remember you lost yesterday.....big time   ;D

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by Kat on Nov 25th, 2011 at 6:59am

adelcrow wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 7:23pm:
No one gets to the top positions in the Labor or Liberal Parties if they have any personal integrity.



That's about the size of it, adelcrow.

I wouldn't trust ANY of them as far as I could kick them.

Govt OR opposition.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by skippy. on Nov 25th, 2011 at 7:34am
You got to love the whiny little Lib bitches, they didn't whine about Slipper until he dumped the Libs. ;D ;D ;D Too funny, suck it up.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by pansi1951 on Nov 25th, 2011 at 7:38am

skippy. wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 7:34am:
You got to love the whiny little Lib bitches, they didn't whine about Slipper until he dumped the Libs. ;D ;D ;D Too funny, suck it up.



They can't take a trick, it is funny  ;D too funny!  ;D  ;D

will they come out to play today? or go into the depressions  :'(  :'(

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by john_g on Nov 25th, 2011 at 7:51am
Could someone please inform me of what the problem is here? This is very trivial. If Thomson is sent to prison, then the Liberals gain one, and Labor loses one.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by skippy. on Nov 25th, 2011 at 7:57am

john_g wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 7:51am:
Could someone please inform me of what the problem is here? This is very trivial. If Thomson is sent to prison, then the Liberals gain one, and Labor loses one.

IF IF IF IF IF
and IF that ever happened it will be well after the next election by the time it happens, by then someone else will be preselected for his seat anyway, SO,aint gunna happen in this parliament, didn't you read the words of wisdom from that great Liberal writer the great gonzo,oops longweekend?

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by john_g on Nov 25th, 2011 at 8:01am

skippy. wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 7:57am:

john_g wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 7:51am:
Could someone please inform me of what the problem is here? This is very trivial. If Thomson is sent to prison, then the Liberals gain one, and Labor loses one.

IF IF IF IF IF
and IF that ever happened it will be well after the next election by the time it happens, by then someone else will be preselected for his seat anyway, SO,aint gunna happen in this parliament, didn't you read the words of wisdom from that great Liberal writer the great gonzo,oops longweekend?


I think that most Australians were resigning themselves to the next election being a little under two years away, and that still stands, so no despair here.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by cods on Nov 25th, 2011 at 8:01am

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:14am:
interesting days ahead esp if Jenkins decides to quite the house.

remember all you dimwits repeating ad nauseum 'there is 2 years to go'.? THIS is why that is a silly statement. A) it is only 21months at most and B) it is a minority govt which rarely go the distance.




harry looked very unHAPPYHARRY... all well and good rudd chatting up slipper... what a hoot.. a couple of out in the cold cooking up a little deal..says a lot about th of them doesnt it???

typical labor stuff though the nastier and greedier and more corrupt you are. they fly you to the top of the mast...

this guy will get an increase of $75000... hes is a tealeaf..hes a grub,.. rips the tax payer off at every turn..how much has he cost in investigations into his slimey ripoffs...how do we know brothels are not involved... we dont do we>.. no destinations... how convenient...

just looking at him makes me feel ill.

shame on these creeps I am disgusted we have to pay them.. slimeballs.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by buzzanddidj on Nov 25th, 2011 at 10:07am
A fitting tribute, from the Australian Prime Minister



Mr Speaker, on indulgence, I seek to make some remarks about the former Speaker, Harry Jenkins, and also to you. I quote in this parliament the words of Winston Churchill, who once described himself in the following terms:

"I am a child of the House of Commons. I was brought up in my father's house to believe in democracy"

Those words could well have been written by anyone about Harry Jenkins. He certainly is a child of his father's house, a very distinguished Speaker in this parliament, and he certainly is a child of this House as well, having served as a very distinguished Speaker in some remarkable days. Harry Jenkins served as Speaker of this parliament when Kevin Rudd delivered the historic apology to the stolen generations. He served as Speaker in this parliament during the days of some of the sharpest contests and most difficult debates that our nation needed to have about its future. He served in this parliament as the parliament's face to the world as we have welcomed leaders from around the world, most recently President Obama and, before President Obama, her Majesty the Queen. On all occasions Harry Jenkins, as Speaker of this House, has carried out his duty with honour, with dignity, with a strict non-partisan approach which brought him credit from all sides of the parliament.

Perhaps the only flaw in the speakership of Harry Jenkins was identified today by the member for Sturt. I would have taken the advice and thrown the member for Sturt out of the chamber on more occasions. But with those words of gentle chiding, former Speaker Harry Jenkins has served this parliament well. He is a child of this House. He is someone who learnt a love of democracy in his family home, but he is also a child of the Labor Party. He grew up in a Labor home with Labor values. He has witnessed for those values all of his adult life as he has served his constituents in the seat of Scullin. Harry Jenkins, as the member for Scullin, has decided that it is time to return home, back into the active service of the Labor Party, and we welcome him back in the Labor family in a very warm embrace. We look forward to working alongside him in 2012. He was a great Speaker and is a great Labor Party man and a great friend to all of us on this side of the parliament.

Mr Speaker, the only difficulty you face is stepping into the shoes of a man so distinguished. Perhaps I should have joked slippers, but stepping into the shoes of a man so distinguished, we anticipate that you will, as Speaker, guide this parliament in the way that you have guided it in the chair as Deputy Speaker. We have seen you, when you have exercised the role of Deputy Speaker, show a fierce sense of balance and appropriateness in this parliament. You have had the courage to take some difficult actions when they have been called upon to maintain order in the House. I am sure that we will continue to see that from you as you step now into the position of Speaker, and from the government side of this parliament, we will provide you the support required as you carry out the duties of Speaker.



http://www.openaustralia.org/debates/?id=2011-11-24.44.2#g46.34







Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by cods on Nov 25th, 2011 at 10:29am
GOD SHE HAS THE BLOODY HIDE TO QUOTE CHURCHILL..

couldnt she find one of Stalins..

well with a bit of luck she will get a giant pimple on her tongue to match the wooden nose she has sprouted.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by culldav on Nov 25th, 2011 at 10:30am
The garden troll and the mad monk have not turned their eyes towards policy, their main ambitions to date is to simply scratch and claw at each other like a pair of back alley cats, then that suits us just fine.

While they are concentrating on fighting between themselves, they will leave other economic things alone that will keep allowing us to make money of dumb-arse Aussies who’s money keep our children being educated in some of the “best” schools in Europe.

Its no wonder why these current affairs shows highlight so many stupid Aussies falling for unintelligent African scams that even the African people don’t fall for anymore that‘s why they came here, they have heard about how dumb-arse and backward Aussies are. LOL  LOL  

Australians don’t care about anything anymore, so why would anyone else care.

Just keep rolling that money in for us, you big pack of dumb-arse “banjo” playing hillbillies.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by culldav on Nov 25th, 2011 at 10:33am
de
cods wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 10:29am:
GOD SHE HAS THE BLOODY HIDE TO QUOTE CHURCHILL..

couldnt she find one of Stalins..

well with a bit of luck she will get a giant pimple on her tongue to match the wooden nose she has sprouted.




Didn't Churchill say the Japanese could have Australia and Briton would not defend Australia if the Japanese attacked us in one of his famous speeches, and all the Australian troops had to fight and die protecting England?

Churchill is one of the biggest MONSTERS in history; no wonder maggot mouth quoted him.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by skippy. on Nov 25th, 2011 at 1:23pm
Didn't Churchill say the Japanese could have Australia and Briton would not defend Australia if the Japanese attacked us in one of his famous speeches, and all the Australian troops had to fight and die protecting England?


YEP,Churchill was a dog, and Menzies hated his guts, says it all really.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by GoddyofOz on Nov 25th, 2011 at 2:34pm

All these tantrums from the rightards are very humorous to watch. Better yet, it was pretty much the grave the Libs dug for themselves.

They intended to sack Slipper, and he gets in early and bites them in the arse and gets labelled a traitor. Karma's a bitch.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by longweekend58 on Nov 25th, 2011 at 3:49pm

GoddyofOz wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 2:34pm:
All these tantrums from the rightards are very humorous to watch. Better yet, it was pretty much the grave the Libs dug for themselves.

They intended to sack Slipper, and he gets in early and bites them in the arse and gets labelled a traitor. Karma's a bitch.


because keeping a criminal in their ranks and rewarding him is more a labor way of doing things.

It is truly astonishing the way you labor people have zero principles and integrity. the end justifies the means... always.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by alevine on Nov 25th, 2011 at 3:51pm

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 3:49pm:

GoddyofOz wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 2:34pm:
All these tantrums from the rightards are very humorous to watch. Better yet, it was pretty much the grave the Libs dug for themselves.

They intended to sack Slipper, and he gets in early and bites them in the arse and gets labelled a traitor. Karma's a bitch.


because keeping a criminal in their ranks and rewarding him is more a labor way of doing things.

It is truly astonishing the way you labor people have zero principles and integrity. the end justifies the means... always.


Which criminal is being kept in their ranks by Labor, exactly?

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by skippy. on Nov 25th, 2011 at 3:54pm

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 3:49pm:

GoddyofOz wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 2:34pm:
All these tantrums from the rightards are very humorous to watch. Better yet, it was pretty much the grave the Libs dug for themselves.

They intended to sack Slipper, and he gets in early and bites them in the arse and gets labelled a traitor. Karma's a bitch.


because keeping a criminal in their ranks and rewarding him is more a labor way of doing things.

It is truly astonishing the way you labor people have zero principles and integrity. the end justifies the means... always.

LOL The Libs were happy to have Slipper in their party until the next election, there was no talk about dumping him before then and you know it,just more bitterness on your part.As goddy says, Slipper was About to get dumped,BUT NOT before the next election, Abbott could not afford to lose a member if he wanted to "bring this gov down" lolz, good luck with that now,hey??? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by Belgarion on Nov 25th, 2011 at 3:56pm
What's the bet Slippers financial problems will now quietly go away? The price Julia will pay to gain an extra seat. Not that Tony would have done any different given the chance.

Bastards all of them.  >:(

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by Grey on Nov 25th, 2011 at 4:19pm

Belgarion wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 3:56pm:
What's the bet Slippers financial problems will now quietly go away? The price Julia will pay to gain an extra seat. Not that Tony would have done any different given the chance.

Bastards all of them.  >:(


Aint that the truth :-)

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by Karnal on Nov 25th, 2011 at 4:27pm

skippy. wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 3:54pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 3:49pm:

GoddyofOz wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 2:34pm:
All these tantrums from the rightards are very humorous to watch. Better yet, it was pretty much the grave the Libs dug for themselves.

They intended to sack Slipper, and he gets in early and bites them in the arse and gets labelled a traitor. Karma's a bitch.


because keeping a criminal in their ranks and rewarding him is more a labor way of doing things.

It is truly astonishing the way you labor people have zero principles and integrity. the end justifies the means... always.

LOL The Libs were happy to have Slipper in their party until the next election, there was no talk about dumping him before then and you know it,just more bitterness on your part.As goddy says, Slipper was About to get dumped,BUT NOT before the next election, Abbott could not afford to lose a member if he wanted to "bring this gov down" lolz, good luck with that now,hey??? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


There is every chance Matty will contest Slipper's seat in the next election. At present, he will neither confirm or deny this. He's leaving all options on the table.

This could mean Mr Abbott will have another Liberal in the lower house after the next election - unless Matty changes sides and chooses to vote with the Greens or One Nation.

If this happened, the Libs would be one man down again. It could change the entire political dynamic of the next parliament.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by froggie on Nov 25th, 2011 at 5:34pm

skippy. wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 3:54pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 3:49pm:

GoddyofOz wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 2:34pm:
All these tantrums from the rightards are very humorous to watch. Better yet, it was pretty much the grave the Libs dug for themselves.

They intended to sack Slipper, and he gets in early and bites them in the arse and gets labelled a traitor. Karma's a bitch.


because keeping a criminal in their ranks and rewarding him is more a labor way of doing things.

It is truly astonishing the way you labor people have zero principles and integrity. the end justifies the means... always.

LOL The Libs were happy to have Slipper in their party until the next election, there was no talk about dumping him before then and you know it,just more bitterness on your part.As goddy says, Slipper was About to get dumped,BUT NOT before the next election, Abbott could not afford to lose a member if he wanted to "bring this gov down" lolz, good luck with that now,hey??? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D



G'day, skip....
I've come back to this thread as I think it was the first one on the subject.

So much whinging, wailing and gnashing of teeth from those 'born to rule'.
I like hypotheticals, so lets look at one.

Tony Abbott is PM in a minority govt.
Tony's Speaker vacates his position and Tony finds himself a disaffected member of the Opposition (Labor) to take the position, giving his minority govt a bit of extra breathing space.

A. Is Tony's action a brilliant move?
B. Is Tony doing the right thing by the voters?
C. Is Tony a hero for making such a move?
D. Will the Aust political system disintergrate because of this action?
E. Should Tony be made 'President for Life' for taking such action?

I thing you get the idea....

If the shoe was on the other foot, would it be the most "Brilliant Political Coup" of all time, or would it mean the end of civilization as we know it?

;)

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by adelcrow on Nov 25th, 2011 at 5:36pm
Slipper only became corrupt the day he ditched the Coalition   ;D ;D

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by froggie on Nov 25th, 2011 at 5:37pm
BTW.....

How come so many threads on the one subject??

;)

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by adelcrow on Nov 25th, 2011 at 5:39pm

Lobo wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 5:37pm:
BTW.....

How come so many threads on the one subject??

;)



Because the neo cons are losing their sh!t over it  ;D

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by froggie on Nov 25th, 2011 at 5:43pm

adelcrow wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 5:39pm:

Lobo wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 5:37pm:
BTW.....

How come so many threads on the one subject??

;)



Because the neo cons are losing their sh!t over it  ;D



REALLY LOL!!!

;D ;D

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by adelcrow on Nov 25th, 2011 at 5:48pm

Lobo wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 5:43pm:

adelcrow wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 5:39pm:

Lobo wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 5:37pm:
BTW.....

How come so many threads on the one subject??

;)



Because the neo cons are losing their sh!t over it  ;D



REALLY LOL!!!

;D ;D


Its good to see them finally having something real to whinge about..and its funnier than a trouser leg full of ferrets.
;D ;D

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by qikvtec on Nov 25th, 2011 at 5:50pm
I just hope Mr Jenkins is not unwell; he seems like a pretty decent bloke.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by froggie on Nov 25th, 2011 at 5:53pm
Who remembers Mal Colston?
Recruited from Labor by the Howard Govt. 1996. Given Deputy Presidency of the Senate.

Who remembers Albert Field?
A Known Whitlam critic.
Recruited by Joh Bjelke-Petersen to fill a Labor vacancy in the Senate. 1975.

Some sort of precedent set here???

:)

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by adelcrow on Nov 25th, 2011 at 5:56pm

Lobo wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 5:53pm:
Who remembers Mal Colston?
Recruited from Labor by the Howard Govt. 1996. Given Deputy Presidency of the Senate.

Who remembers Albert Field?
A Known Whitlam critic.
Recruited by Joh Bjelke-Petersen to fill a Labor vacancy in the Senate. 1975.

Some sort of precedent set here???

:)


The Conservatives would never sink so low..you must be lying  ::)

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by froggie on Nov 25th, 2011 at 6:00pm

adelcrow wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 5:56pm:

Lobo wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 5:53pm:
Who remembers Mal Colston?
Recruited from Labor by the Howard Govt. 1996. Given Deputy Presidency of the Senate.

Who remembers Albert Field?
A Known Whitlam critic.
Recruited by Joh Bjelke-Petersen to fill a Labor vacancy in the Senate. 1975.

Some sort of precedent set here???

:)


The Conservatives would never sink so low..you must be lying  ::)



Oh Crap yeah!!!

:D

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by qikvtec on Nov 25th, 2011 at 6:01pm
Wasn't Brenden Nelson also a long time member of the ALP?


Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by froggie on Nov 25th, 2011 at 6:11pm

qikvtec wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 6:01pm:
Wasn't Brenden Nelson also a long time member of the ALP?


"...and he joined Labor at the age of 13. However, he resigned from the Labor Party in 1991 before accepting a role on the AMA executive, on account of his perception of it as an apolitical position...."

There you go, qik.

:)

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by adelcrow on Nov 25th, 2011 at 6:12pm

Lobo wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 6:11pm:

qikvtec wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 6:01pm:
Wasn't Brenden Nelson also a long time member of the ALP?


"...and he joined Labor at the age of 13. However, he resigned from the Labor Party in 1991 before accepting a role on the AMA executive, on account of his perception of it as an apolitical position...."

There you go, qik.

:)


Sooooo...he was an official in the Doctors trade union as well ..bloody communist  :D

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by Gist on Nov 25th, 2011 at 6:23pm

qikvtec wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 5:50pm:
I just hope Mr Jenkins is not unwell; he seems like a pretty decent bloke.


Hopefully not!

And yeah, I think very decent. Despite the frantic ravings of some here, I can't see him being pushed. I'd bet my left nut that he did a Bill Hayden and left the post willingly for the good of the party.

In fact, I get the strong feeling today that he brought the plan to the government. I think he was the mastermind and the broker. Just a hunch.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by froggie on Nov 25th, 2011 at 6:30pm

Gist wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 6:23pm:

qikvtec wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 5:50pm:
I just hope Mr Jenkins is not unwell; he seems like a pretty decent bloke.


Hopefully not!

And yeah, I think very decent. Despite the frantic ravings of some here, I can't see him being pushed. I'd bet my left nut that he did a Bill Hayden and left the post willingly for the good of the party.

In fact, I get the strong feeling today that he brought the plan to the government. I think he was the mastermind and the broker. Just a hunch.


I should be as healthy as Harry.

Despite the rantings of the 'Dark Side' your 'hunch' could be very close to the truth, gist.

;)

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 25th, 2011 at 7:06pm

Gist wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 6:23pm:

qikvtec wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 5:50pm:
I just hope Mr Jenkins is not unwell; he seems like a pretty decent bloke.


Hopefully not!

And yeah, I think very decent. Despite the frantic ravings of some here, I can't see him being pushed. I'd bet my left nut that he did a Bill Hayden and left the post willingly for the good of the party.

In fact, I get the strong feeling today that he brought the plan to the government. I think he was the mastermind and the broker. Just a hunch.

That is not a fair trade. You have to have a left nut to be able trade it, or are you talking about 'not being a left nut'. Well if that is the case, then proceed.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by Gist on Nov 25th, 2011 at 7:12pm

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 7:06pm:

Gist wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 6:23pm:

qikvtec wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 5:50pm:
I just hope Mr Jenkins is not unwell; he seems like a pretty decent bloke.


Hopefully not!

And yeah, I think very decent. Despite the frantic ravings of some here, I can't see him being pushed. I'd bet my left nut that he did a Bill Hayden and left the post willingly for the good of the party.

In fact, I get the strong feeling today that he brought the plan to the government. I think he was the mastermind and the broker. Just a hunch.

That is not a fair trade. You have to have a left nut to be able trade it, or are you talking about 'not being a left nut'. Well if that is the case, then proceed.


Correct. This nut never got left by anyone. You on the other hand, you got left by everyone.

So you were on holidays eh lolly? How was Egypt anyway?

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 25th, 2011 at 7:18pm

Gist wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 7:12pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 7:06pm:

Gist wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 6:23pm:

qikvtec wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 5:50pm:
I just hope Mr Jenkins is not unwell; he seems like a pretty decent bloke.


Hopefully not!

And yeah, I think very decent. Despite the frantic ravings of some here, I can't see him being pushed. I'd bet my left nut that he did a Bill Hayden and left the post willingly for the good of the party.

In fact, I get the strong feeling today that he brought the plan to the government. I think he was the mastermind and the broker. Just a hunch.

That is not a fair trade. You have to have a left nut to be able trade it, or are you talking about 'not being a left nut'. Well if that is the case, then proceed.


Correct. This nut never got left by anyone. You on the other hand, you got left by everyone.

So you were on holidays eh lolly? How was Egypt anyway?

Then proceed. That means PROCEED, go ahead, (Gillard) move forward, did I mention (Gillard) move forward. Just to explain what moving forward means (Gillard) to move forward is to move forward, moving forward, obviously not moving backward, but where you start from and in what direction is unknown.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by Gist on Nov 25th, 2011 at 7:22pm

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 7:18pm:
Then proceed. That means PROCEED, go ahead, (Gillard) move forward, did I mention (Gillard) move forward. Just to explain what moving forward means (Gillard) to move forward is to move forward, moving forward, obviously not moving backward, but where you start from and in what direction is unknown.


Back on the medication again, eh? Bummer dude. Maybe you should go get some rest. It's been a big week for you losers. Get well soon.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 25th, 2011 at 7:24pm

Gist wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 7:22pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 7:18pm:
Then proceed. That means PROCEED, go ahead, (Gillard) move forward, did I mention (Gillard) move forward. Just to explain what moving forward means (Gillard) to move forward is to move forward, moving forward, obviously not moving backward, but where you start from and in what direction is unknown.


Back on the medication again, eh? Bummer dude. Maybe you should go get some rest. It's been a big week for you losers. Get well soon.

Well that was quick. You do realise that it were I that you were refering to that had taken a break. Suggest that maybe it is you that needs some drugs and a good rest.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by Gist on Nov 25th, 2011 at 7:34pm

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 7:24pm:

Gist wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 7:22pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 7:18pm:
Then proceed. That means PROCEED, go ahead, (Gillard) move forward, did I mention (Gillard) move forward. Just to explain what moving forward means (Gillard) to move forward is to move forward, moving forward, obviously not moving backward, but where you start from and in what direction is unknown.


Back on the medication again, eh? Bummer dude. Maybe you should go get some rest. It's been a big week for you losers. Get well soon.

Well that was quick. You do realise that it were I that you were refering to that had taken a break. Suggest that maybe it is you that needs some drugs and a good rest.


Yes, I've come to know that you hang with bated breath on my every response so I try not to leave you waiting.

And yes I knew it were you I were referring to. You haven't said whether you like Egypt.

Rest will come a little later. The pleasant sleep of the content. No meds required.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 25th, 2011 at 7:42pm

Gist wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 7:34pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 7:24pm:

Gist wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 7:22pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 7:18pm:
Then proceed. That means PROCEED, go ahead, (Gillard) move forward, did I mention (Gillard) move forward. Just to explain what moving forward means (Gillard) to move forward is to move forward, moving forward, obviously not moving backward, but where you start from and in what direction is unknown.


Back on the medication again, eh? Bummer dude. Maybe you should go get some rest. It's been a big week for you losers. Get well soon.

Well that was quick. You do realise that it were I that you were refering to that had taken a break. Suggest that maybe it is you that needs some drugs and a good rest.


Yes, I've come to know that you hang with bated breath on my every response so I try not to leave you waiting.

And yes I knew it were you I were referring to. You haven't said whether you like Egypt.

Rest will come a little later. The pleasant sleep of the content. No meds required.

Sorry, but like you and elivane, vine vene or whoever your sock is, you love to be the last word, to have a go and assume as much as possible.

It were you that refered and assumed Egypt, so it would have to be you to tell the story in its completeness.

lets not let this get any less inteligent than you have already made it.

If elivated vine vain ven swen is not your sock, then you lefties are too much alike and too embarassing.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by Gist on Nov 25th, 2011 at 8:12pm

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 7:42pm:

Gist wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 7:34pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 7:24pm:

Gist wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 7:22pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 7:18pm:
Then proceed. That means PROCEED, go ahead, (Gillard) move forward, did I mention (Gillard) move forward. Just to explain what moving forward means (Gillard) to move forward is to move forward, moving forward, obviously not moving backward, but where you start from and in what direction is unknown.


Back on the medication again, eh? Bummer dude. Maybe you should go get some rest. It's been a big week for you losers. Get well soon.

Well that was quick. You do realise that it were I that you were refering to that had taken a break. Suggest that maybe it is you that needs some drugs and a good rest.


Yes, I've come to know that you hang with bated breath on my every response so I try not to leave you waiting.

And yes I knew it were you I were referring to. You haven't said whether you like Egypt.

Rest will come a little later. The pleasant sleep of the content. No meds required.

Sorry, but like you and elivane, vine vene or whoever your sock is, you love to be the last word, to have a go and assume as much as possible.

It were you that refered and assumed Egypt, so it would have to be you to tell the story in its completeness.

lets not let this get any less inteligent than you have already made it.

If elivated vine vain ven swen is not your sock, then you lefties are too much alike and too embarassing.


Once upon a time you were trying to tell me I was some mythical construct called astro. And then Pete. Now I'm alevine? I wish you'd make up your mind! No, lolly, I am me. Just me. Gist. No socks.

Come to think of it, one day I might change my nick to that. Gist.No.Socks ...  ;D

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by alevine on Nov 25th, 2011 at 8:14pm

Gist wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 8:12pm:
Sorry, but like you and elivane, vine vene or whoever your sock is, you love to be the last word, to have a go and assume as much as possible.

It were you that refered and assumed Egypt, so it would have to be you to tell the story in its completeness.

lets not let this get any less inteligent than you have already made it.

If elivated vine vain ven swen is not your sock, then you lefties are too much alike and too embarassing.


Once upon a time you were trying to tell me I was some mythical construct called astro. And then Pete. Now I'm alevine? I wish you'd make up your mind! No, lolly, I am me. Just me. Gist. No socks.

Come to think of it, one day I might change my nick to that. Gist.No.Socks ...  ;D[/quote]

;D ;D I think progressives is just a little more loonier than normal today. Mustn't have had his dose of TV during work and is all upset right now. :(

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by progressiveslol on Nov 25th, 2011 at 8:43pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 8:14pm:

Gist wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 8:12pm:
Sorry, but like you and elivane, vine vene or whoever your sock is, you love to be the last word, to have a go and assume as much as possible.

It were you that refered and assumed Egypt, so it would have to be you to tell the story in its completeness.

lets not let this get any less inteligent than you have already made it.

If elivated vine vain ven swen is not your sock, then you lefties are too much alike and too embarassing.


Once upon a time you were trying to tell me I was some mythical construct called astro. And then Pete. Now I'm alevine? I wish you'd make up your mind! No, lolly, I am me. Just me. Gist. No socks.

Come to think of it, one day I might change my nick to that. Gist.No.Socks ...  ;D


Well you lefties are far too alike. Same whine, same humor, same logic. I will have to try to become conscious of that fact.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by alevine on Nov 25th, 2011 at 8:45pm

progressiveslol wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 8:43pm:
Well you lefties are far too alike. Same whine, same humor, same logic. I will have to try to become conscious of that fact.


One step at a time - start being conscious when you debate first. :)

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by matty on Nov 26th, 2011 at 1:12pm

Dirty Paki Khunt wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 4:27pm:

skippy. wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 3:54pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 3:49pm:

GoddyofOz wrote on Nov 25th, 2011 at 2:34pm:
All these tantrums from the rightards are very humorous to watch. Better yet, it was pretty much the grave the Libs dug for themselves.

They intended to sack Slipper, and he gets in early and bites them in the arse and gets labelled a traitor. Karma's a bitch.


because keeping a criminal in their ranks and rewarding him is more a labor way of doing things.

It is truly astonishing the way you labor people have zero principles and integrity. the end justifies the means... always.

LOL The Libs were happy to have Slipper in their party until the next election, there was no talk about dumping him before then and you know it,just more bitterness on your part.As goddy says, Slipper was About to get dumped,BUT NOT before the next election, Abbott could not afford to lose a member if he wanted to "bring this gov down" lolz, good luck with that now,hey??? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


There is every chance Matty will contest Slipper's seat in the next election. At present, he will neither confirm or deny this. He's leaving all options on the table.

This could mean Mr Abbott will have another Liberal in the lower house after the next election - unless Matty changes sides and chooses to vote with the Greens or One Nation.

If this happened, the Libs would be one man down again. It could change the entire political dynamic of the next parliament.


I'm not even from QLD.

Title: Re: Harry Jenkins resigns as speaker
Post by matty on Oct 10th, 2012 at 11:54pm
Two words -EPIC FAIL. Jenkins 'resignation was all in vain, and caused even more disdain for the government than was already present. They can't even get something like this right.

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