We've had people banned for being a bit quirky or crazy with their style. Subsequently reinstated thankfully.

But now I've reported two people for flagrantly inciting assassination and it's ignored. Is incitement to violence okay now? Because as far as I know it's against the law of the land let alone the forum.

Read from post #158 on to see what I'm on about. >:(

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1320802079/150

They probably just haven't seen the comment. It is pretty awful.

i read post #158. it wasnt an incitement to assassination at all but rather a statement (albeit an untrue one) that nobody would care if the PM was assassinated. not exactly nice stuff though.

Longy only cares if they swear, mention drugs or call God a fictional character.
Muso only cares if they have "Lisa" in their ID and aren't actually the "Lisa" character on here.
FD has an obsession with free speech and democracy.
Mozza isn't here much.

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 7:31pm:

They probably just haven't seen the comment. It is pretty awful.

Oh they've seen it, I reported it.



Quote:

matty wrote on Yesterday at 7:20pm: log_me_in wrote on Yesterday at 7:09pm: Cameron and the rest of the left should be thanking his lucky stars it's only a letter. An assasination of any one of the leftys to bring on an election would have no one shedding a tear. There would be partying in the streets and whoever pulled the trigger would be a national hero Anyone who got rid of one Labor Lower House MP would be my lifelong hero.

I think saying anybody who pulled the trigger would be a hero IS incitement.

Grey wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 7:58pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 14th, 2011 at 7:31pm: They probably just haven't seen the comment. It is pretty awful. Oh they've seen it, I reported it. Quote: matty wrote on Yesterday at 7:20pm: log_me_in wrote on Yesterday at 7:09pm: Cameron and the rest of the left should be thanking his lucky stars it's only a letter. An assasination of any one of the leftys to bring on an election would have no one shedding a tear. There would be partying in the streets and whoever pulled the trigger would be a national hero Anyone who got rid of one Labor Lower House MP would be my lifelong hero. I think saying anybody who pulled the trigger would be a hero IS incitement.

No, not at all.

incitation: an act of urging on or spurring on or rousing to action or instigating; "the incitement of mutiny".

I simply stated that someone who disposed of one Labor MP would become heroic in my eyes. I went too far, sure, but I didn't threaten or incite anyone/anything.

That log_me_in ID definitely needs to be removed.

Hasn't posted anything relevant, merely sprays vitriol
on the 'left'.

And actively trolls other posters, myself included.

I will no longer engage him/her/it.

I have NEVER in my online life reported another poster,but
I nearly made an exception this morning.

I thought that was the sort of carp we were trying to get rid of.....

Free speech and democracy is good. Our society is built on it (plus a bit of slavery).

The issue I have with this - as has already been pointed out - is that we must remain free to discuss the possible consequences of an assassination attempt. Those claims make really interesting discussion points. They are wrong of course, but there is nothing wrong with that.

The line between discussing the consequences and incitement can get very blurred and I welcome more discussion on it.

Life_goes_on wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 7:48pm:

Longy only cares if they swear, mention drugs or call God a fictional character. Muso only cares if they have "Lisa" in their ID and aren't actually the "Lisa" character on here. FD has an obsession with free speech and democracy. Mozza isn't here much.

You know .. you really ought to look up the word generalisation at some stage.

freediver wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 9:01pm:

Free speech and democracy is good. Our society is built on it (plus a bit of slavery). The issue I have with this - as has already been pointed out - is that we must remain free to discuss the possible consequences of an assassination attempt. Those claims make really interesting discussion points. They are wrong of course, but there is nothing wrong with that. The line between discussing the consequences and incitement can get very blurred and I welcome more discussion on it.

So let's get this straight FD. Saying-


Quote:

Anyone who got rid of one Labor Lower House MP would be my lifelong hero.

is okay and within forum rules; but anybody who uses a four letter word faces being banned or having their post removed?

What if Matty, (and Matty is not the worst offender here in my book) had said -

Anyone who gets rid of one Labor Lower House MP would be my lifelong hero.

would that be okay too?

I'm not going to report this to the police or to the ALP, (and that's a promise) but somebody could. I think if they did you could find yourself up to the neck in excrement for allowing it. I'm sure people have had a starring role on 'Media Watch' for less.

Quote:

The line between discussing the consequences and incitement can get very blurred and I welcome more discussion on it.

Bullshit.  The difference is as clear as a bell, and if it is not, one would err on the side of avoiding any suggestion of incitement.

::)

freediver wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 9:01pm:

Free speech and democracy is good. Our society is built on it (plus a bit of slavery). The issue I have with this - as has already been pointed out - is that we must remain free to discuss the possible consequences of an assassination attempt. Those claims make really interesting discussion points. They are wrong of course, but there is nothing wrong with that. The line between discussing the consequences and incitement can get very blurred and I welcome more discussion on it.

They are wrong of course, but there is nothing wrong with that.  

Anyone else notice the slight spot of bother in this sentence?

Grey wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 9:54pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 14th, 2011 at 9:01pm: Free speech and democracy is good. Our society is built on it (plus a bit of slavery). The issue I have with this - as has already been pointed out - is that we must remain free to discuss the possible consequences of an assassination attempt. Those claims make really interesting discussion points. They are wrong of course, but there is nothing wrong with that. The line between discussing the consequences and incitement can get very blurred and I welcome more discussion on it. So let's get this straight FD. Saying- Quote: Anyone who got rid of one Labor Lower House MP would be my lifelong hero. is okay and within forum rules; but anybody who uses a four letter word faces being banned or having their post removed? What if Matty, (and Matty is not the worst offender here in my book) had said - Anyone who gets rid of one Labor Lower House MP would be my lifelong hero. would that be okay too? I'm not going to report this to the police or to the ALP, (and that's a promise) but somebody could. I think if they did you could find yourself up to the neck in excrement for allowing it. I'm sure people have had a starring role on 'Media Watch' for less.

Grey, I am sorry for what I said. It went too far and was said in the heat of the moment.

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 10:40pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 14th, 2011 at 9:01pm: Free speech and democracy is good. Our society is built on it (plus a bit of slavery). The issue I have with this - as has already been pointed out - is that we must remain free to discuss the possible consequences of an assassination attempt. Those claims make really interesting discussion points. They are wrong of course, but there is nothing wrong with that. The line between discussing the consequences and incitement can get very blurred and I welcome more discussion on it. They are wrong of course, but there is nothing wrong with that.   Anyone else notice the slight spot of bother in this sentence?

So I wasn't the only one who noticed that?  ;)

matty wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:23pm:

Grey wrote on Nov 14th, 2011 at 9:54pm: freediver wrote on Nov 14th, 2011 at 9:01pm: Free speech and democracy is good. Our society is built on it (plus a bit of slavery). The issue I have with this - as has already been pointed out - is that we must remain free to discuss the possible consequences of an assassination attempt. Those claims make really interesting discussion points. They are wrong of course, but there is nothing wrong with that. The line between discussing the consequences and incitement can get very blurred and I welcome more discussion on it. So let's get this straight FD. Saying- Quote: Anyone who got rid of one Labor Lower House MP would be my lifelong hero. is okay and within forum rules; but anybody who uses a four letter word faces being banned or having their post removed? What if Matty, (and Matty is not the worst offender here in my book) had said - Anyone who gets rid of one Labor Lower House MP would be my lifelong hero. would that be okay too? I'm not going to report this to the police or to the ALP, (and that's a promise) but somebody could. I think if they did you could find yourself up to the neck in excrement for allowing it. I'm sure people have had a starring role on 'Media Watch' for less. Grey, I am sorry for what I said. It went too far and was said in the heat of the moment.

We all post in the heat of the moment Matty and how many moments do you need to use the modify button and remove it? Look I'm not mad with you, but this isn't about you anymore it's about the standards of behaviour on the forum generally.

You were incited by log_me_in to paraphrase his ill advised comment. Others might be incited to actual violence. There's degrees of idiocy out there. It's incumbent on anybody who speaks out in public to be reasonable.

I agree with grey, we have longwhine banning us for taking a fictional characters name in vain yet freediver lets people incite death threats against the PM. Last week longwhine deleted a post of mine that had a link to verify its authenticity but he deleted it saying it was defamation, yet a right winger calls the PMs partner gay,and claims she has proof but doesn't present it, and longwhine leaves it there, no wonder so many people are leaving this joint. ::)

skippy. wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 7:00am:

I agree with grey, we have longwhine banning us for taking a fictional characters name in vain yet freediver lets people incite death threats against the PM. Last week longwhine deleted a post of mine that had a link to verify its authenticity but he deleted it saying it was defamation, yet a right winger calls the PMs partner gay,and claims she has proof but doesn't present it, and longwhine leaves it there, no wonder so many people are leaving this joint. ::)

There is 2029 members on these boards how many regular posters would there be? about 30 at the most. This B/S that you can't delete your profile because it would upset the threads when your post are deleted, is easy fixed all your posts gets marked as ex-member or guest.

The Forum I am a member of

http://aussie-aussie-aussie.proboards.com/index.cgi?

that is what happens there when you leave the forum

skippy. wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 7:00am:

I agree with grey, we have longwhine banning us for taking a fictional characters name in vain yet freediver lets people incite death threats against the PM. Last week longwhine deleted a post of mine that had a link to verify its authenticity but he deleted it saying it was defamation, yet a right winger calls the PMs partner gay,and claims she has proof but doesn't present it, and longwhine leaves it there, no wonder so many people are leaving this joint. ::)

Gawd you need to come out from under that skirt of mantra's.  Just who are these 'so many people' who have left this joint.  Name them.

:o

Aussie wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 7:53am:

skippy. wrote on Nov 15th, 2011 at 7:00am: I agree with grey, we have longwhine banning us for taking a fictional characters name in vain yet freediver lets people incite death threats against the PM. Last week longwhine deleted a post of mine that had a link to verify its authenticity but he deleted it saying it was defamation, yet a right winger calls the PMs partner gay,and claims she has proof but doesn't present it, and longwhine leaves it there, no wonder so many people are leaving this joint. ::) Gawd you need to come out from under that skirt of mantra's.  Just who are these 'so many people' who have left this joint.  Name them. :o

Ask bohman, he's had 12 in the last week, including YOU, join his forum, failed lawyer. ::)

skippy. wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 8:05am:

Aussie wrote on Nov 15th, 2011 at 7:53am: skippy. wrote on Nov 15th, 2011 at 7:00am: I agree with grey, we have longwhine banning us for taking a fictional characters name in vain yet freediver lets people incite death threats against the PM. Last week longwhine deleted a post of mine that had a link to verify its authenticity but he deleted it saying it was defamation, yet a right winger calls the PMs partner gay,and claims she has proof but doesn't present it, and longwhine leaves it there, no wonder so many people are leaving this joint. ::) Gawd you need to come out from under that skirt of mantra's.  Just who are these 'so many people' who have left this joint.  Name them. :o Ask bohman, he's had 12 in the last week, including YOU, join his forum, failed lawyer. ::)

And now me, but it remains to be seen if I leave this one.

Grey wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 7:58pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 14th, 2011 at 7:31pm: They probably just haven't seen the comment. It is pretty awful. Oh they've seen it, I reported it. Quote: matty wrote on Yesterday at 7:20pm: log_me_in wrote on Yesterday at 7:09pm: Cameron and the rest of the left should be thanking his lucky stars it's only a letter. An assasination of any one of the leftys to bring on an election would have no one shedding a tear. There would be partying in the streets and whoever pulled the trigger would be a national hero Anyone who got rid of one Labor Lower House MP would be my lifelong hero. I think saying anybody who pulled the trigger would be a hero IS incitement.

Anyone could be forgiven, for thinking that matty & log_me_in, were the same person!

Freedom of speech is good, but it has limitations and saying someone would be a lifelong &/or national hero, for killing someone, whether that someone was a Labor Polly, a Liberal Polly OR a normal human being is certainly highly repugnant, if not a lot more.

I would suggest that the two (or one) concerned, be at least counselled privately & publically and if they continue, then other measures could be considered!  

Quote:

Ask bohman, he's had 12 in the last week, including YOU, join his forum, failed lawyer. Roll Eyes

No dount you will post your evidence in support of your 'failed lawyer' comment at the same time you list the names of those who have left this Forum to go to 'Aussie Land' and not merely refer to those, like me, who happen to have Membership of both.  Mmmmkay?

:o

Aussie wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 10:50am:

Quote: Ask bohman, he's had 12 in the last week, including YOU, join his forum, failed lawyer. Roll Eyes No dount you will post your evidence in support of your 'failed lawyer' comment at the same time you list the names of those who have left this Forum to go to 'Aussie Land' and not merely refer to those, like me, who happen to have Membership of both.  Mmmmkay? :o

Yes, all successful lawyers drive taxis,aussie. ;D :D :D

skippy. wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 10:53am:

Aussie wrote on Nov 15th, 2011 at 10:50am: Quote: Ask bohman, he's had 12 in the last week, including YOU, join his forum, failed lawyer. Roll Eyes No dount you will post your evidence in support of your 'failed lawyer' comment at the same time you list the names of those who have left this Forum to go to 'Aussie Land' and not merely refer to those, like me, who happen to have Membership of both.  Mmmmkay? :o Yes, all successful lawyers drive taxis,aussie. ;D :D :D

We also own them.   ;)

Now.....those names if you please.

8-)

Aussie wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 11:07am:

skippy. wrote on Nov 15th, 2011 at 10:53am: Aussie wrote on Nov 15th, 2011 at 10:50am: Quote: Ask bohman, he's had 12 in the last week, including YOU, join his forum, failed lawyer. Roll Eyes No dount you will post your evidence in support of your 'failed lawyer' comment at the same time you list the names of those who have left this Forum to go to 'Aussie Land' and not merely refer to those, like me, who happen to have Membership of both.  Mmmmkay? :o Yes, all successful lawyers drive taxis,aussie. ;D :D :D We also own them.   ;) Now.....those names if you please. 8-)

You'd best ask bohman, oh great lawyer now driving cabs, he knows who has signed up at his joint better than I.

Aussie wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 7:53am:

Just who are these 'so many people' who have left this joint.  Name them. :o

I won't name anyone that have left here and joined Australia News & Political Forum.

The best thing you can do to see them is to join and see for yourself. You can't see who are members unless you are a member but you can see all the posts there is even a couple of boards that guest can post on.

bomen_guy wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 12:52pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 15th, 2011 at 7:53am:  Just who are these 'so many people' who have left this joint.  Name them. :o I won't name anyone that have left here and joined Australia News & Political Forum. The best thing you can do to see them is to join and see for yourself. You can't see who are members unless you are a member but you can see all the posts there is even a couple of boards that guest can post on.

You weren't asked to name them.  I asked skippy to do that, and as usual he has not been able to back his wild generalisation of the mantra kind.

Aussie wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 1:25pm:

bomen_guy wrote on Nov 15th, 2011 at 12:52pm: Aussie wrote on Nov 15th, 2011 at 7:53am:  Just who are these 'so many people' who have left this joint.  Name them. :o I won't name anyone that have left here and joined Australia News & Political Forum. The best thing you can do to see them is to join and see for yourself. You can't see who are members unless you are a member but you can see all the posts there is even a couple of boards that guest can post on. You weren't asked to name them.  I asked skippy to do that, and as usual he has not been able to back his wild generalisation of the mantra kind.

Thanks ,arsie, I take it as a compliment to be compered to mantra, unlike you, who is lumped in the same box as lisa. :'(

Life_goes_on wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 7:48pm:

Longy only cares if they swear, mention drugs or call God a fictional character. Muso only cares if they have "Lisa" in their ID and aren't actually the "Lisa" character on here. FD has an obsession with free speech and democracy. Mozza isn't here much.

Well to be fair to muso, lisa would PM him whining every time someone pointed out her many flaws after she'd been trolling them for hours. :P

Aussie wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 1:25pm:

bomen_guy wrote on Nov 15th, 2011 at 12:52pm: Aussie wrote on Nov 15th, 2011 at 7:53am:  Just who are these 'so many people' who have left this joint.  Name them. :o I won't name anyone that have left here and joined Australia News & Political Forum. The best thing you can do to see them is to join and see for yourself. You can't see who are members unless you are a member but you can see all the posts there is even a couple of boards that guest can post on. You weren't asked to name them.  I asked skippy to do that, and as usual he has not been able to back his wild generalisation of the mantra kind.

I inadvertently stumbled on some evidence the other day and kept it this time. I don't want to rehash last week's demands - but I'll post it later in Relationships. Most of us don't bother keeping links - but in your case it should be mandatory that all your posts are kept separately and in chronological order to use for future references.

Scawwy.  Werry, werry scawwy.

Do what you like, Drama Queen.

:D

I will close this thread if you lot have no interest in discussing the OP.

freediver wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 7:36pm:

I will close this thread if you lot have no interest in discussing the OP.

Scawwy.  Werry, werry scawwy.

Do what you like, Drama Queen.

:D

freediver wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 7:36pm:

I will close this thread if you lot have no interest in discussing the OP.

FD,

Instead of getting your daily power trip by threatening to close this topic down altogether .. why not just get YOUR lax finger out and actually mod for a change. Now there's a novel idea (and amazingly enough .. it's also relevant to the OP and topic title).

You could very easily start by modding the offtopic Mantra and Skippy troll driven rubbish.  

I am not a babysitter.

You are not a baby sitter?


Quote:

I will close this thread if you lot have no interest in discussing the OP.

:D

Grey wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 7:27pm:

We've had people banned for being a bit quirky or crazy with their style. Subsequently reinstated thankfully. But now I've reported two people for flagrantly inciting assassination and it's ignored. Is incitement to violence okay now? Because as far as I know it's against the law of the land let alone the forum. Read from post #158 on to see what I'm on about. >:( http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1320802079/150

Doctor recommends a glass of cement, a tissue and a set of big boy pants

freediver wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 9:31pm:

I am not a babysitter.

Where would your interference be babysitting FD? I think here were you have, not unreasonably, threatened intervention or over there where  log_me_in is allowed free rein?

His latest offering -


Quote:

I idolise no one but thanks for confirming that you idolise a fat bloated donut scarfing toad, you filthy left scumbag

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 9:11pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 15th, 2011 at 7:36pm: I will close this thread if you lot have no interest in discussing the OP. FD, Instead of getting your daily power trip by threatening to close this topic down altogether .. why not just get YOUR lax finger out and actually mod for a change. Now there's a novel idea (and amazingly enough .. it's also relevant to the OP and topic title). You could very easily start by modding the offtopic Mantra and Skippy troll driven rubbish.

freediver wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 9:31pm:

I am not a babysitter.

Given your contemptible view regarding modding Freediver .. it's little wonder your own Oz Pol Global Mods are rarely online these days.

Also .. take a look at your own Forum Mods Freediver. Even these Mods are rarely online these days.

Have a lovely evening. Like many other members of Oz Pol .. I'm off to post elsewhere.

Aussie wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 7:53am:

skippy. wrote on Nov 15th, 2011 at 7:00am: I agree with grey, we have longwhine banning us for taking a fictional characters name in vain yet freediver lets people incite death threats against the PM. Last week longwhine deleted a post of mine that had a link to verify its authenticity but he deleted it saying it was defamation, yet a right winger calls the PMs partner gay,and claims she has proof but doesn't present it, and longwhine leaves it there, no wonder so many people are leaving this joint. ::) Gawd you need to come out from under that skirt of mantra's.  Just who are these 'so many people' who have left this joint.  Name them. :o

We've had people banned for being a bit quirky or crazy with their style. Subsequently reinstated thankfully.

But now I've reported two people for flagrantly inciting assassination and it's ignored. Is incitement to violence okay now? Because as far as I know it's against the law of the land let alone the forum.

Read from post #158 on to see what I'm on about.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1320802079/150



lordy lordy they are so sensitive and all lefties.. its so hard to believe !!!!whatever happened to the great big boofy aussie male..

now all of a sudden it not alright to have a death wish on the current  PM..

but wishing Howard or Abbott or OLD PEOPLE dead is fine..


I love it...whine lefties whine.. blame FD or longy all you like but the truth is out there its all in black and white..

typical pot calling the kettle black but they are so blinded they cannot see it..

only green mods are allowed an opinion.. everyone else sucks...

and they call it democracy..

its ok lefties wish me dead if you must if it makes you feel like a man..

I can take it and I promise not to call you a naughty name like an idiot..ooops sorry FD against the rules I know..but the devil made me do it.

Grey wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 9:44pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 15th, 2011 at 9:31pm: I am not a babysitter. Where would your interference be babysitting FD? I think here were you have, not unreasonably, threatened intervention or over there where  log_me_in is allowed free rein? His latest offering - Quote: I idolise no one but thanks for confirming that you idolise a fat bloated donut scarfing toad, you filthy left scumbag The doc said to up it to a box of tissues and an industrial strength pacifier

freediver wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 9:31pm:

I am not a babysitter.

are you sure???????

some of the complaints you read on here are really beyond anything I have seen adults in my circle complaining about..in fact I dont think I have seen any of my grandsons carry on like this lot.. and the eldest is only 15..they have more sense thats for sure..

maybe you should have a" pity me "board FD just for these whiners..

Things are looking up around here!

:-X

Equitist wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 9:51pm:

Things are looking up around here! :-X

The natural position for a lefty

Equitist wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 9:51pm:

Things are looking up around here! :-X

They certainly are. I hope she means it. There's no point anyone making themselves miserable hanging around here if they don't like the way this forum is run. Rather than continually badmouthing the owner - it's best they go somewhere more suited to their temperament.

mantra wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 10:26pm:

Equitist wrote on Nov 15th, 2011 at 9:51pm: Things are looking up around here! :-X They certainly are. I hope she means it. There's no point anyone making themselves miserable hanging around here if they don't like the way this forum is run. Rather than continually badmouthing the owner - it's best they go somewhere more suited to their temperament.

Now come on Mantra FD is not lilly white. I've been threatened with a ban for using a four letter word or being over abusive and any RWinger can say what they like. If this is to be a RW only board well, let's get on with it. Personlly I don't much care what vitriol log_Me_in uses. Their command of language isn't very wonderful anyway. A level playing field would be nice.

Level playing field good, lap dogs bad - and log just shytes me!

::)

I was banned so when you remove your head from your rectal orifice you will have room to shove your moral imperative.

Careful you don't break anything. With skin so thin, a slight cut will have you bruising easily. You can stem the bleeding with your tissues

Quote:

any RWinger can say what they like.

no they can't. i've been banned here heaps of times. FD wouldnt have lifted a finger if it was somebody calling for tony abbott's assassination either (not that anybody was even calling for gillards assassination - though admittedly it did get pretty close to the wire).

It's generally that weak as piss mozzoak who tries to overcompensate for his shrunken testicles


I'll take that as a request. Goodbye IQSRLOW aka .....  Can't say it was nice  :-*

Ahh STILL no Modding about.

Not surprising I suppose .. given Freediver himself clearly doesn't think much about the role ( if his posts in this topic alone are anything to go by ).

It's disgraceful IMO, when forum owners belittle such a key online function. It's also very telling.

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 11:25pm:

Ahh STILL no Modding about. Not surprising I suppose .. given Freediver himself clearly doesn't think much about the role ( if his posts in this topic alone are anything to go by ). It's disgraceful IMO, when forum owners belittle such a key online function. It's also very telling.

Shouldn't you be in a cage somewhere?

log_me_in wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 11:11pm:

It's generally that weak as piss mozzoak who tries to overcompensate for his shrunken testicles

We're not at all concerned about the state of the genitalia of certain male forum members thank you very much!

What a shame we barely see Global Mods about these days. In fact, there's virtually NO Mod presence about lately.

Changing posts again?

You know you have been caught for that before

Grey wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 10:39pm:

mantra wrote on Nov 15th, 2011 at 10:26pm: Equitist wrote on Nov 15th, 2011 at 9:51pm: Things are looking up around here! :-X They certainly are. I hope she means it. There's no point anyone making themselves miserable hanging around here if they don't like the way this forum is run. Rather than continually badmouthing the owner - it's best they go somewhere more suited to their temperament. Now come on Mantra FD is not lilly white. I've been threatened with a ban for using a four letter word or being over abusive and any RWinger can say what they like. If this is to be a RW only board well, let's get on with it. Personlly I don't much care what vitriol log_Me_in uses. Their command of language isn't very wonderful anyway. A level playing field would be nice.

This used to be a predominantly left wing board. Now it should be somewhere in the middle and definitely not over-run with RW vitriol.

There's been a slight improvement the last few days and it's looking a little more balanced, but the problem is this government isn't doing too well at the moment and it's hard to find anything positive to say about them. Having said that - it wouldn't matter if they were doing well - the hate campaign started immediately Rudd came to power and the righties have got this fixed spiel in their brains.

The mods can't be here all the time. We're all adults and shouldn't have the need to run to them every 5 minutes. If you think a particular member has gone outside the boundaries - copy some of the posts with the links and send a copy to FD, Muso and Mozzaok - or LW if you prefer.

log_me_in wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 11:28pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 15th, 2011 at 11:25pm: Ahh STILL no Modding about. Not surprising I suppose .. given Freediver himself clearly doesn't think much about the role ( if his posts in this topic alone are anything to go by ). It's disgraceful IMO, when forum owners belittle such a key online function. It's also very telling. Shouldn't you be in a cage somewhere?

Although the "cage" wasn't a popular conception - I think it's a great idea. It had the desired effect.

What's going on with modding? Probably having a life outside this forum.  Just because something doesn't happen immediately is no reason to jump up and down.  The original issue has now been sorted out, and again this morning.

You won't get 24 hour mod coverage. End of story.  

muso wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 6:46am:

What's going on with modding? Probably having a life outside this forum.  Just because something doesn't happen immediately is no reason to jump up and down.  The original issue has now been sorted out, and again this morning. You won't get 24 hour mod coverage. End of story.

Well done muso, tho I never picked log me in as IQ. I thought it was a lisa sock.

mantra wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 10:26pm:

Equitist wrote on Nov 15th, 2011 at 9:51pm: Things are looking up around here! :-X They certainly are. I hope she means it. There's no point anyone making themselves miserable hanging around here if they don't like the way this forum is run. Rather than continually badmouthing the owner - it's best they go somewhere more suited to their temperament.

I agree if you wish to talk to those that agree with everything you say and believe in then a political board isnt for you...I think FD has a thick skin...but really those that whine all the time need to take a good look at themselves..I laugh but a a lot take it seriouse and thats a worry also.

mantra I have noticed your stance on things seems to have taken a shift?? or is that my imagination?

muso wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 6:46am:

What's going on with modding? Probably having a life outside this forum.  Just because something doesn't happen immediately is no reason to jump up and down.  The original issue has now been sorted out, and again this morning. You won't get 24 hour mod coverage. End of story.

maybe you need a timeout corner.. for the whingers to sit and think about BIGGER ISSUES..


fancy needing a moderator every 5 minutes.. its laughable

cods wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 8:09am:

muso wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 6:46am: What's going on with modding? Probably having a life outside this forum.  Just because something doesn't happen immediately is no reason to jump up and down.  The original issue has now been sorted out, and again this morning. You won't get 24 hour mod coverage. End of story.   maybe you need a timeout corner.. for the whingers to sit and think about BIGGER ISSUES.. fancy needing a moderator every 5 minutes.. its laughable

Who's wanted a moderator every five minutes? Log_me_in's post was exceptional and I reported it. That's not requiring a mod every five minutes. I reported it to Longy who ignored it. You can tell he ignored it because he posted after it without mentioning it. I sent a PM to FD. He requested that I start this thread here to discuss it.

log_me_in wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 11:28pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 15th, 2011 at 11:25pm: Ahh STILL no Modding about. Not surprising I suppose .. given Freediver himself clearly doesn't think much about the role ( if his posts in this topic alone are anything to go by ). It's disgraceful IMO, when forum owners belittle such a key online function. It's also very telling. Shouldn't you be in a cage somewhere?

I've only just logged in for the day and I've noticed this multi banned troll's post which came straight after my last post in here.

What a pity we don't see more effective modding nowadays on this forum because notorious trolls like Log Me In should not be able to creep back in here.

Grey wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 4:24pm:

cods wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:09am: muso wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 6:46am: What's going on with modding? Probably having a life outside this forum.  Just because something doesn't happen immediately is no reason to jump up and down.  The original issue has now been sorted out, and again this morning. You won't get 24 hour mod coverage. End of story.   maybe you need a timeout corner.. for the whingers to sit and think about BIGGER ISSUES.. fancy needing a moderator every 5 minutes.. its laughable Who's wanted a moderator every five minutes? Log_me_in's post was exceptional and I reported it. That's not requiring a mod every five minutes. I reported it to Longy who ignored it. You can tell he ignored it because he posted after it without mentioning it. I sent a PM to FD. He requested that I start this thread here to discuss it.

If he did, he is up to his usual duplicituous best!

In that post, he is referring to this Feedback Board.

Grey wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 4:24pm:

I sent a PM to FD. He requested that I start this thread here to discuss it.

So you're saying FD asked you to post in THIS section??

FD has obviously lost touch with his own forum .. as well as his own posts.

log_me_in wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 11:11pm:

It's generally that weak as piss mozzoak who tries to overcompensate for his shrunken testicles I'll take that as a request. Goodbye IQSRLOW aka .....  Can't say it was nice  :-*

Ahhh just caught this snippet.

Many thanks Muso. It was obvious that the id Log Me In was that notorious multi banned troll NOIQ. A quick look at his profile's posts told the story.

It's a pity he was able to get away with so many posts before he was finally caught and "caged".

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 9:36pm:

Grey wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 4:24pm: I sent a PM to FD. He requested that I start this thread here to discuss it. So you're saying FD asked you to post in THIS section?? FD has obviously lost touch with his own forum .. as well as his own posts.

When are you going to stop putting the owner and this forum down? So far it's been tolerated, but there will be some complaints shortly if it continues. It is not a good look for members or visitors to see this constant denigration of a person who goes to a lot of trouble and expense keeping this place open and active.


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It's a pity he was able to get away with so many posts before he was finally caught and "caged".

In regard to the "cage" it was only ever spec built for one member only - and that was you. It was trialled on two forums and declared successful. Maybe we should build another one here in order to subdue the dissenters?

It would ease the burden on the moderators significantly.

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 9:36pm:

Grey wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 4:24pm: I sent a PM to FD. He requested that I start this thread here to discuss it. So you're saying FD asked you to post in THIS section?? FD has obviously lost touch with his own forum .. as well as his own posts.

Why wouldn't FD want this thread in this section? anyone with half a brain would realise the feedback board is for feedback, something grey is trying to achieve with this thread.

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I sent a PM to FD. He requested that I start this thread here to discuss it.

Y'know the only reason i put that info up was because the mods seemed to think I was whinging. FD didn't ask for it to be kept confidential but normally I do keep what's in PM's in pm's.

It seems to me that the modding of the forum would be much improved if the mods had their own chat room off public forum where they can find some consensus before acting. I think most forums run this way nowdays. Certainly the best modded ones do.

Grey wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 8:32am:

Quote: I sent a PM to FD. He requested that I start this thread here to discuss it. Y'know the only reason i put that info up was because the mods seemed to think I was whinging. FD didn't ask for it to be kept confidential but normally I do keep what's in PM's in pm's. It seems to me that the modding of the forum would be much improved if the mods had their own chat room off public forum where they can find some consensus before acting. I think most forums run this way nowdays. Certainly the best modded ones do.

on reading the front page on this board it clearly states do not complain about mods on this board... feedback.. by FD.

we are turning into a nation of whingers..learn to turn the other cheek so to speak.or accept that mods are human just the same as us posters....lol.. well most are.

cods wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 8:38am:

Grey wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 8:32am: Quote: I sent a PM to FD. He requested that I start this thread here to discuss it. Y'know the only reason i put that info up was because the mods seemed to think I was whinging. FD didn't ask for it to be kept confidential but normally I do keep what's in PM's in pm's. It seems to me that the modding of the forum would be much improved if the mods had their own chat room off public forum where they can find some consensus before acting. I think most forums run this way nowdays. Certainly the best modded ones do. on reading the front page on this board it clearly states do not complain about mods on this board... feedback.. by FD. we are turning into a nation of whingers..learn to turn the other cheek so to speak.or accept that mods are human just the same as us posters....lol.. well most are.

It's the feedback board. I just made a suggestion on how to improve standards. WTF is your problem with that?

Grey wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 7:27pm:

But now I've reported two people

You big tough guy, you.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 1:46pm:

Grey wrote on Nov 14th, 2011 at 7:27pm: But now I've reported two people You big tough guy, you.

I reported the same two people.
1st time I've ever felt the need to complain about other poster.
Not that it did bugger all got told to start a thread here.
Apparently 1 was banned & the other is on their last warning, big fvcken deal.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 3:05pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 1:46pm: Grey wrote on Nov 14th, 2011 at 7:27pm: But now I've reported two people You big tough guy, you. I reported the same two people. 1st time I've ever felt the need to complain about other poster. Not that it did bugger all got told to start a thread here. Apparently 1 was banned & the other is on their last warning, big fvcken deal.

lol I reported one person, they got a 24 hour ban and I got a warning. Why did you get banned smithy?

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 3:30pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 3:05pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 1:46pm: Grey wrote on Nov 14th, 2011 at 7:27pm: But now I've reported two people You big tough guy, you. I reported the same two people. 1st time I've ever felt the need to complain about other poster. Not that it did bugger all got told to start a thread here. Apparently 1 was banned & the other is on their last warning, big fvcken deal. lol I reported one person, they got a 24 hour ban and I got a warning. Why did you get banned smithy?

One not me ;D
Although I did get a stern warning about my outburst a few weeks ago, as I should have.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 3:05pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 1:46pm: Grey wrote on Nov 14th, 2011 at 7:27pm: But now I've reported two people You big tough guy, you. I reported the same two people. 1st time I've ever felt the need to complain about other poster. Not that it did bugger all got told to start a thread here. Apparently 1 was banned & the other is on their last warning, big fvcken deal.

Thanks Smithy. I do want to make clear that I have no problem with abuse directed at me or any within normal boundaries. I did have a real fear that the posts in question held serious ramifications for the forum under the law.

I'm still unsure after reading this. I swayed one way and another more than once.

http://www.ema.gov.au/www/agd/rwpattach.nsf/VAP/(966BB47E522E848021A38A20280E2386)~SLB+-+Submission+on+National+Security+Legislation+Amendment+Bill+2009+-+Ben+Saul+(Supplementary+Submission)+September+2009.pdf/$file/SLB+-+Submission+on+National+Security+Legislation+Amendment+Bill+2009+-+Ben+Saul+(Supplementary+Submission)+September+2009.pdf

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 3:56pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 3:30pm: Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 3:05pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 1:46pm: Grey wrote on Nov 14th, 2011 at 7:27pm: But now I've reported two people You big tough guy, you. I reported the same two people. 1st time I've ever felt the need to complain about other poster. Not that it did bugger all got told to start a thread here. Apparently 1 was banned & the other is on their last warning, big fvcken deal. lol I reported one person, they got a 24 hour ban and I got a warning. Why did you get banned smithy? One not me ;D Although I did get a stern warning about my outburst a few weeks ago, as I should have.

I am disappointed I missed this outburst.
What was it about and to whom was it directed?

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 3:56pm:

One not me ;D Although I did get a stern warning about my outburst a few weeks ago, as I should have.

LOL - Things were getting pretty heated on the  Vegetable of the Week thread, but I must have missed that outburst too.

muso wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 4:16pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 3:56pm: One not me ;D Although I did get a stern warning about my outburst a few weeks ago, as I should have. LOL - Things were getting pretty heated on the  Vegetable of the Week thread, but I must have missed that outburst too.

hahahaha It was not anywhere close to a boil over.

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 9:02pm:

What a pity we don't see more effective modding nowadays on this forum because notorious trolls like Log Me In should not be able to creep back in here.

Not sure why anyone thinks it has gone. log_me_in may not have posted but it last logged in just yesterday

I should add that I pointed out some evidence that that troll was a socket puppet to FD. I was told that there's no problem with sock puppets. In my book that's the admin's call. If that's the way they want to run things then fine. But I do think it really detracts from the board and is just begging for trolls.

Thanks Grey, but I think terrorism is pushing it a bit. I would look for something more specific about murder/assassination.


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I was told that there's no problem with sock puppets.

Unless they are banned.


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But I do think it really detracts from the board and is just begging for trolls.

Trolling is what politics forums are all about. It is members insulting each other where I draw the line.

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It is members insulting each other where I draw the line.

:D

Where did you draw that line?  In your dreams?

Children, children!!!  If you can't play nicely ... go to your room.

No wonder some Mods ban people. ::)

I got a 24-hour ban from Mozzaok about nine months
ago, first time I'd ever copped a 'ping'.

I overstepped the mark, got a penalty, and wore it.

Then I moved on, but toned it down a bit.

But I didn't biatch about it for weeks/months afterwards.

I moderate on a couple of other fora (both private fora), one
is fairly sedate, the other is quite 'wild'.

But I'd hate to be a mod on here, I'd go mad.

You can never please everybody if you are a moderator, you just
do the best you can. Sometimes you will be wrong, sometimes not.

But the one rule I apply to myself while modding is 'NEVER make it
personal, and ALWAYS try to be fair'.

As I have found most moderators here to be.

*Just my 'take' on it*

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 1:46pm:

Grey wrote on Nov 14th, 2011 at 7:27pm: But now I've reported two people You big tough guy, you.

You know .. this topic is starting to sound like some rowdy Rugby League game.

So .. at last count we have TWO players posters on report lol ??

Grey wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 8:32am:

Quote: I sent a PM to FD. He requested that I start this thread here to discuss it. Y'know the only reason i put that info up was because the mods seemed to think I was whinging. FD didn't ask for it to be kept confidential but normally I do keep what's in PM's in pm's. It seems to me that the modding of the forum would be much improved if the mods had their own chat room off public forum where they can find some consensus before acting. I think most forums run this way nowdays. Certainly the best modded ones do.

My understanding is that Oz Pol has this already.

What this forum REALLY needs is an IGNORE facility.

freediver wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 8:06pm:

Trolling is what politics forums are all about.

Pure, unadulterated bovine faecal matter.

Next!

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 11:40pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 8:06pm: Trolling is what politics forums are all about. Pure, unadulterated bovine faecal matter.

you really love that line don't you? are you proud of coming up with it lisa?

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 11:37pm:

Grey wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 8:32am: Quote: I sent a PM to FD. He requested that I start this thread here to discuss it. Y'know the only reason i put that info up was because the mods seemed to think I was whinging. FD didn't ask for it to be kept confidential but normally I do keep what's in PM's in pm's. It seems to me that the modding of the forum would be much improved if the mods had their own chat room off public forum where they can find some consensus before acting. I think most forums run this way nowdays. Certainly the best modded ones do. My understanding is that Oz Pol has this already. What this forum REALLY needs is an IGNORE facility.

good, stay there then lisa

Like I said ... an ignore facility is what this site needs.

I for one am sick of being followed into topics by the same useless, bored as well as boring trolls.

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 18^th, 2011 at 12:55am:

Like I said ... an ignore facility is what this site needs. I'm sick of being followed into topics by the same useless and bored as well as boring trolls.

leave then, and don't come back

freediver wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 8:06pm:

Trolling is what politics forums are all about.

Pure, unadulterated bovine faecal matter.

Next!

what part of "go away" don't you understand ?

is it being told by a man ?
or that you were booted as a mod from here before ?

That ignore facility is definitely worth looking into  ... there's way too many disturbed stalkers/trolls lurking about and following women into topics.

Grey wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 8:47am:

cods wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 8:38am: Grey wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 8:32am: Quote: I sent a PM to FD. He requested that I start this thread here to discuss it. Y'know the only reason i put that info up was because the mods seemed to think I was whinging. FD didn't ask for it to be kept confidential but normally I do keep what's in PM's in pm's. It seems to me that the modding of the forum would be much improved if the mods had their own chat room off public forum where they can find some consensus before acting. I think most forums run this way nowdays. Certainly the best modded ones do. on reading the front page on this board it clearly states do not complain about mods on this board... feedback.. by FD. we are turning into a nation of whingers..learn to turn the other cheek so to speak.or accept that mods are human just the same as us posters....lol.. well most are. It's the feedback board. I just made a suggestion on how to improve standards. WTF is your problem with that?

where did I mention ...YOU


so whats your problem?

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 18^th, 2011 at 1:36am:

That ignore facility is definitely worth looking into  ... there's way too many disturbed stalkers/trolls lurking about and following women into topics.

lisa... I think they should show it on the board when someones been deleted.. it shows everyone that person has stepped over the line..

where as now we have those who complain about someone.. and yet still claim nothing is done about it..

how do we know that???

if someone gets banned well thats their business.. but when a post gets deleted we should know who the offenders are.. that way we know the mods are looking in .. so beware,

FD is right its the personal stuff that gets out of hand..

lisa if you cant ignore someone who you call a troll then thats your problem you cant expect mods to feel your pain...

I prefer stalker myself.... its when they get down and dirty I too can play that game.

freediver wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 8:06pm:

Thanks Grey, but I think terrorism is pushing it a bit. I would look for something more specific about murder/assassination. Quote: I was told that there's no problem with sock puppets. Unless they are banned. [quote]But I do think it really detracts from the board and is just begging for trolls.

Trolling is what politics forums are all about. It is members insulting each other where I draw the line.[/quote]

Yes, that's what you said. Unless they are banned. But I figure that's completely redundant - everyone is OK unless they are banned.

Maybe you and I have different definitions of trolling. Debating a point and giving the other person a hard time isn't trolling. Sometimes people lose it and need a sharp reminder to pull their heads in. To me, that's expected and normal (though maybe not welcome).

Trolling to me is posting nothing but an insult. We saw exactly that with log_me_in. To me, openly allowing puppets is just a way of saying "well, if you want to get it off your chest, create another account and slag the other guy. It may get banned but your primary account will have no worries". You're building an environment that promotes log_me_in style trolling.

My $0.02 worth.  :)

I have never been banned.

Probably because I am such a likeable kind of guy I guess.

Trolling, ie making an inflammatory and provocative remark, can be good for debate and bumps threads along keeping them active. I don't have a problem with that. Imperium does it well, he's terse but apposite, intelligent and often funny, even when I'm the subject. Log_me_in was/is just an attention seeking yob. We don't need that.

Gist wrote on Nov 18^th, 2011 at 9:35am:

Trolling to me is posting nothing but an insult. We saw exactly that with log_me_in. To me, openly allowing puppets is just a way of saying "well, if you want to get it off your chest, create another account and slag the other guy. It may get banned but your primary account will have no worries". You're building an environment that promotes log_me_in style trolling. My $0.02 worth.  :)

When a person's nick is banned and they create another one and return - there's usually an improvement in their behaviour. Obviously not in every case, but generally.

Log_me_in is an exception and has been posting here for years. He rarely changes his personality for anyone. Sometimes he's noticed - other times he's not. Obviously when he's angry and members become offended - he's banned again.

Still there have been far more offensive members than him in the past and a couple of them are still here.

In the scheme of things who cares whether banned members return under new nicks. If they're serial pests, then that's a problem, but otherwise if they're not harming anyone - leave them alone.

freediver wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 8:06pm:

Thanks Grey, but I think terrorism is pushing it a bit. I would look for something more specific about murder/assassination.

I don't think that was discussing terrorism per se FD. I think it was discussing changes to the law regarding incitement. Section 11 with particular regard to Australia. It covered the  extreme and not so extrme. My understanding is that saying somebody who assassinated an ALP member would be regarded as a national hero is walking the line, a bit of political pressure and it falls off the line on the wrong side.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 18^th, 2011 at 10:39am:

I have never been banned. Probably because I am such a likeable kind of guy I guess.

If you're polite - you can usually get away with anything. This board is quite liberal compared to others and won't ban you just because they don't like your attitude - unlike some other petty forums who single people out because they're different and don't have the same point of view.

Grey wrote on Nov 18^th, 2011 at 12:13pm:

Trolling, ie making an inflammatory and provocative remark, can be good for debate and bumps threads along keeping them active. I don't have a problem with that. Imperium does it well, he's terse but apposite, intelligent and often funny, even when I'm the subject. Log_me_in was/is just an attention seeking yob. We don't need that.

well I give those I dont like a big misss all round......it isnt hard but it does slow the boards down..as I see it.

the one liners.. dead horsemeat is a fav with me...I dont bother.

others cant say a nice word about someone.. its always negative.

matty and myself are good examples of peoples intolerance.

I get the miserables when its lies all the time..other people take it as gosple. so you have to fight back.

I dont see how anyone can complain about someone just because they dont like them.... yet when someone from their own side does the same thing they ignore that..

I have had a couple of shots at logmein..and he isnt the only one...

yet I have yet to see a lefty admonise another lefty for going too far..it doesnt happen..

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I have yet to see a lefty admonise another lefty for going too far..it doesnt happen..

That's because we're the good guys Cods.  ;D You should join us, you're almost good enough.

<<That's because we're the good guys Cods.  Grin You should join us, you're almost good enough. >>
..........................................................................

Go on cods! we're almost blood sisters, me being from good convict stock and all. We are much nicer than the 'others'  :)

Grey wrote on Nov 18^th, 2011 at 6:17pm:

Quote: I have yet to see a lefty admonise another lefty for going too far..it doesnt happen.. That's because we're the good guys Cods.  ;D You should join us, you're almost good enough.

you wish buddy you wish.

I am too honest for you lot... cant stand corruption..or theft aka THOMO..

and to see the non reaction regarding Kathy Jacksons treatment at the hands of the Union... I cant stand that either.

so I wouldnt last 5 min with you guys.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 18^th, 2011 at 6:43pm:

<<That's because we're the good guys Cods.  Grin You should join us, you're almost good enough. >> .......................................................................... Go on cods! we're almost blood sisters, me being from good convict stock and all. We are much nicer than the 'others'  :)

ha,.ha.. give me the convicts of yesteryear to the pious greenies of today any time..at least everyone knew they were crooks.. now we are lead to believe the greens can change the world....as long as everyone does what they tell them to do.. and not what they do...

I dont live by those morals.

your convict rellies are spinning in their graves pansi..shame on you!

The greens won't change the world, everyone in it will.  You recycle and re-use, you're changing and you don't even realise it. Just think how many plastic bags we used two years ago and compare it to today.

Almost everyone is a little bit green (except andrei but he's an enema oops! enigma)

cods wrote on Nov 18^th, 2011 at 7:29pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 18th, 2011 at 6:43pm: <<That's because we're the good guys Cods.  Grin You should join us, you're almost good enough. >> .......................................................................... Go on cods! we're almost blood sisters, me being from good convict stock and all. We are much nicer than the 'others'  :) ha,.ha.. give me the convicts of yesteryear to the pious greenies of today any time..at least everyone knew they were crooks.. now we are lead to believe the greens can change the world....as long as everyone does what they tell them to do.. and not what they do... I dont live by those morals. your convict rellies are spinning in their graves pansi..shame on you!

I always felt you would make a good Anarchist Cods.

Guess you got that wrong Grey.
Pansi I'm shocked... where are your standards.??

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That ignore facility is definitely worth looking into  ... there's way too many disturbed stalkers/trolls lurking about and following women into topics.

The best ignore facility you can have is self control.


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Trolling to me is posting nothing but an insult. We saw exactly that with log_me_in. To me, openly allowing puppets is just a way of saying "well, if you want to get it off your chest, create another account and slag the other guy. It may get banned but your primary account will have no worries". You're building an environment that promotes log_me_in style trolling. My $0.02 worth.

That's the internet for you. It's pretty hard to avoid, and I am not going to spend my time playing detective.


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Section 11 with particular regard to Australia.

I only see 7 sections.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 18^th, 2011 at 7:44pm:

The greens won't change the world, everyone in it will.  You recycle and re-use, you're changing and you don't even realise it. Just think how many plastic bags we used two years ago and compare it to today. Almost everyone is a little bit green (except andrei but he's an enema oops! enigma)

you are referring to the shopping plastic bags only I trust pansi...I see heaps of plastic bags on the shelves for us to BUY...

I found years ago my mum had her own shopping bag.. even a pull along trolly.. very modern.cheese was wrapped in paper not plastic..fruit/veggies were loose they didnt all go in individual plastic bags. meat came in butchers paper instead of shrink plastic wrap..milk came in glass bottles

like it or not... plastic has been forced on us... ok it happened without us noticing I will go along with that..

but if you think we will get rid of plastic  I dont think so....and dont talk about biodegradable..because some of this plastic needs an AXE to get through it. ;D

cods wrote on Nov 18^th, 2011 at 7:29pm:

ha,.ha.. give me the convicts of yesteryear to the pious greenies of today any time..at least everyone knew they were crooks.. now we are lead to believe the greens can change the world....as long as everyone does what they tell them to do.. and not what they do... I dont live by those morals. your convict rellies are spinning in their graves pansi..shame on you!

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Guess you got that wrong Grey.

No, I'd guess you never really understood real Anarchists or read their own words.

Stealing a loaf of bread when you're children are hungry is an Anarchic act and so is seeing things as they are and not how you would like them to be. Anarchism is the path of the individual as opposed to the path of Group think or gang culture. There are no left or right Anarchists only anti totalitarians.

My view is that the mods do a good job especially considering the pay rate.

Give them a fair go!

I do not want to see over moderation, I have never complained about anyone and probably never will, I typically find it funny when someone tries to insult me.

The new mod is a bit heavy handed in a biased manner but I am sure he will settle down.

Grey wrote on Nov 18^th, 2011 at 7:51pm:

cods wrote on Nov 18th, 2011 at 7:29pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 18th, 2011 at 6:43pm: <<That's because we're the good guys Cods.  Grin You should join us, you're almost good enough. >> .......................................................................... Go on cods! we're almost blood sisters, me being from good convict stock and all. We are much nicer than the 'others'  :) ha,.ha.. give me the convicts of yesteryear to the pious greenies of today any time..at least everyone knew they were crooks.. now we are lead to believe the greens can change the world....as long as everyone does what they tell them to do.. and not what they do... I dont live by those morals. your convict rellies are spinning in their graves pansi..shame on you! I always felt you would make a good Anarchist Cods.

anarchist ˈænəkɪst]
n
1. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) a person who advocates the abolition of government and a social system based on voluntary cooperation
2. a person who causes disorder or upheaval
anarchistic  adj



I dont think so....why would you accuse me of that????

I am very much for law and order.. infact I just wish we had more of it.. we have slacked off to the point now where crims are thumbing their noses at society.. look at Sydney drive by shootings every mnight and no one is stopping them..

I am shocked you would put me in that catagory..thanks for nothing.



would I make a good protester.. yes I would if I believed in it badly enough..like I am anti CARBON TAX and if the body had allowed it I would have been there..

we are fortunate to be able to raise a voice in protest in this country still, but who knows whats ahead..


we are making a start with censorship of the internet..and now pointing the evil finger at the press/media..as if they are the cause of our every ills....

we are basically saying to every new govt... if you dont like it.. have an enquiry and put yourself in control...

its for everyones own good dont you know!

Quote:

That ignore facility is definitely worth looking into  ... there's way too many disturbed stalkers/trolls lurking about and following women into topics.

freediver wrote on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 7:34am:

The best ignore facility you can have is self control.

How about you get your finger out and MANAGE/MOD your forum esp in regards to these disturbed multi flamers/clones/trolls. That would be even better.

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 5:28pm:

Quote: That ignore facility is definitely worth looking into  ... there's way too many disturbed stalkers/trolls lurking about and following women into topics. freediver wrote on Nov 19th, 2011 at 7:34am: The best ignore facility you can have is self control. How about you get your finger out and MANAGE/MOD your forum esp in regards to these disturbed multi flamers/clones/trolls. That would be even better.

Well if he did Lisa - you'd be the first to go.

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 5:28pm:

Quote: That ignore facility is definitely worth looking into  ... there's way too many disturbed stalkers/trolls lurking about and following women into topics. freediver wrote on Nov 19th, 2011 at 7:34am: The best ignore facility you can have is self control. How about you get your finger out and MANAGE/MOD your forum esp in regards to these disturbed multi flamers/clones/trolls. That would be even better.

FD???

If you don't like it, leave.

That'd be great.

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 5:28pm:

Quote: That ignore facility is definitely worth looking into  ... there's way too many disturbed stalkers/trolls lurking about and following women into topics. freediver wrote on Nov 19th, 2011 at 7:34am: The best ignore facility you can have is self control. How about you get your finger out and MANAGE/MOD your forum esp in regards to these disturbed multi flamers/clones/trolls. That would be even better.

FD???

Perhaps now you can see why we DO need that ignore facility on here.

However, given the absence of this facilty on this forum I expect you to at least respect and enforce YOUR forum RULES.

Here they are ( just to refresh your memory ).

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/forum-rules.html

Lisa you are the biggest whinger on this board and the one who bothers the moderators & FD more than anyone else.

A few people have suggested now that you leave if you don't like it here - rather than disrupt this board with your constant complaints and abuse. I think it would be best if you did leave. You are obviously very unhappy here, not only with FD's administration, but you don't like many of the members either.

This forum isn't just about catering to your demands. Most of the members here make an effort to get along and compromise - but not you.

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 6:06pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 19th, 2011 at 5:28pm: Quote: That ignore facility is definitely worth looking into  ... there's way too many disturbed stalkers/trolls lurking about and following women into topics. freediver wrote on Nov 19th, 2011 at 7:34am: The best ignore facility you can have is self control. How about you get your finger out and MANAGE/MOD your forum esp in regards to these disturbed multi flamers/clones/trolls. That would be even better. FD??? Perhaps now you can see why we DO need that ignore facility on here. However, given the absence of this facilty on this forum I expect you to at least respect and enforce YOUR forum RULES. Here they are ( just to refresh your memory ). http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/forum-rules.html

You do realise you quoted your own post as an example of why we need the 'ignore' facility, right? Well done.

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 6:06pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 19th, 2011 at 5:28pm: Quote: That ignore facility is definitely worth looking into  ... there's way too many disturbed stalkers/trolls lurking about and following women into topics. freediver wrote on Nov 19th, 2011 at 7:34am: The best ignore facility you can have is self control. How about you get your finger out and MANAGE/MOD your forum esp in regards to these disturbed multi flamers/clones/trolls. That would be even better. FD Perhaps now you can see why we DO need that ignore facility on here. However, given the absence of this facilty on this forum I expect you to at least respect and enforce YOUR forum RULES. Here they are ( just to refresh your memory ). http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/forum-rules.html

FD??? Care to read back over the past few pages of this topic alone? You will see exactly how and why ignoring disturbed and bored stalkers doesn't work at all.

If anything .. it only makes them worse!

Oh and I found this interesting (as well as relevant) to the last 2 pages of this topic FD.


Forum Rules

Personal criticism

Do not post personal criticism of other members. Do not respond to personal criticism of yourself or other members. This is the biggest problem on OzPolitic. Too many members are easily baited into off-topic personal exchanges. If you participate in any kind of flame war you will be suspended, regardless of who started it or who you think ‘deserved it’.

I trust that these rules .. YOUR rules will be upheld.

He's using the inner ignore button that you find so difficult to manage.

cods wrote on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 4:04pm:

Grey wrote on Nov 18th, 2011 at 7:51pm: cods wrote on Nov 18th, 2011 at 7:29pm: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 18th, 2011 at 6:43pm: <<That's because we're the good guys Cods.  Grin You should join us, you're almost good enough. >> .......................................................................... Go on cods! we're almost blood sisters, me being from good convict stock and all. We are much nicer than the 'others'  :) ha,.ha.. give me the convicts of yesteryear to the pious greenies of today any time..at least everyone knew they were crooks.. now we are lead to believe the greens can change the world....as long as everyone does what they tell them to do.. and not what they do... I dont live by those morals. your convict rellies are spinning in their graves pansi..shame on you! I always felt you would make a good Anarchist Cods. anarchist ˈænəkɪst] n 1. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) a person who advocates the abolition of government and a social system based on voluntary cooperation 2. a person who causes disorder or upheaval anarchistic  adj I dont think so....why would you accuse me of that???? I am very much for law and order.. infact I just wish we had more of it.. we have slacked off to the point now where crims are thumbing their noses at society.. look at Sydney drive by shootings every mnight and no one is stopping them.. I am shocked you would put me in that catagory..thanks for nothing. would I make a good protester.. yes I would if I believed in it badly enough..like I am anti CARBON TAX and if the body had allowed it I would have been there.. we are fortunate to be able to raise a voice in protest in this country still, but who knows whats ahead.. we are making a start with censorship of the internet..and now pointing the evil finger at the press/media..as if they are the cause of our every ills.... we are basically saying to every new govt... if you dont like it.. have an enquiry and put yourself in control... its for everyones own good dont you know!

There you go Cods, you can see very well that things aren't working. This is the premise that Michael Crichton wrote about in Jurassic Park. The more you try to control complex systems, the more chaos you create, (chaos theory). Now some things are best handled at a Federal level. And so some form of centralised administration is necessary. But most things are better handled locally.

Let's take child welfare for instance. Why do we send money to the federal government who decide how much will be spent on the welfare of children. Then hand that over to a bureacracy who use the money to shore up their own empire, run advertising camapaigns, monumental leaflet drops to explain the latest buzz phrase in child welfare. And finally dribble down what's left to the the local community?  Our town is going to be a city in the new year yet there is no child welfare office. It's all handled from Bunbury the next city up the coast.

And on a local level people don't talk about child welfare. Its the responsibility of 'government'. Older heads like yours that might know a thing or two are out of the loop. When men get drunk and bash their wives and children other men don't (as a general rule) do anything. To do so would in all probability get them in trouble with the police.

This is all an unnatural and inefficient way to live. Anarchism is simply about decentralisation of power and making collaborating individuals more important than totalitarian governments. And it always was. Cods.

Anarchists were opposed to Bolshevists. They didn't believe in revolutions and forcing people against their will to adopt to centralised power. Just take the time to read this short letter to Karl Marx from Joseph Proudhon, the first person to call himself an Anarchist.

http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/anarchist_archives/proudhon/letters/proudhontomarx.html

Or you might prefer the AnarchoConservative P.J. O'Rourke :-)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfzLnItF6Oc&feature=related

mantra wrote on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 6:12pm:

Lisa you are the biggest whinger on this board and the one who bothers the moderators & FD more than anyone else. A few people have suggested now that you leave if you don't like it here - rather than disrupt this board with your constant complaints and abuse. I think it would be best if you did leave. You are obviously very unhappy here, not only with FD's administration, but you don't like many of the members either. This forum isn't just about catering to your demands. Most of the members here make an effort to get along and compromise - but not you.

mantra you and I had a similar problem not that long ago.. we sorted it out on PM..maybe you and lisa could try the same.. I dont see Lisa like you do...I dont come on here much but she always seems pretty stable to me..I mean as long as someone isnt whingeing about you or too you what does it matter?.

.I am sure the mods can look after themselves.. at least I hope so and I am sure FD doesnt need us to defend him..strewth, I have enough to do defending myself..

cods wrote on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 7:51pm:

mantra wrote on Nov 19th, 2011 at 6:12pm: Lisa you are the biggest whinger on this board and the one who bothers the moderators & FD more than anyone else. A few people have suggested now that you leave if you don't like it here - rather than disrupt this board with your constant complaints and abuse. I think it would be best if you did leave. You are obviously very unhappy here, not only with FD's administration, but you don't like many of the members either. This forum isn't just about catering to your demands. Most of the members here make an effort to get along and compromise - but not you. mantra you and I had a similar problem not that long ago.. we sorted it out on PM..maybe you and lisa could try the same.. I dont see Lisa like you do...I dont come on here much but she always seems pretty stable to me..I mean as long as someone isnt whingeing about you or too you what does it matter?. .I am sure the mods can look after themselves.. at least I hope so and I am sure FD doesnt need us to defend him..strewth, I have enough to do defending myself..

I think it would be a lost cause trying to make peace with Lisa. Perhaps if she laid off the name calling it might help. I find it very offensive to be called a multi troll/flamer/clone, Mad Mantra etc. continually. I understand these references are often made because of the restrictions of her limited vocabulary but that's no excuse.

Sorry Cods but I've seen her put down to many people in the past year. If she's not correcting their punctuation, grammar or demeaning them - she's name calling. She can't even stop at that and has to copy the same highlighted post over and over again ad nauseum - then bump it another dozen times for good measure.

I'll just collect her abusive posts from now on and send them with links to all the mods. Perhaps someone will have the guts to stand up to her.

So Grey
How about giving us a few pithy quotes -  from Anarchists,  in their own words???

Maybe I HAVE heard them before. !! But you'd need to flesh-out your comment.

Yeah?  some classic anarchist rules.. policies , .. givens.... acceptance.of ideals..??

I'd be really interested to expand on my knowledge. !!

But -  NOT paragraphs and paragraphs,  ... ahh  and no links either.
Just....  those meaningful words!!!  - in  bite-sized chunks.
So WE CAN ALL GET IT.

Yes pls!!  :)

Don't like the quote function  >:(   but this is too pppppprecious.!!!!!!!!
I have edited some of it purely by chance
ie names are gone.

Much prefer to cut and paste myself  But  this is  ;D


]Lisa you are the biggest whinger on this board and the one who bothers the moderators & FD more than anyone else.

A few people have suggested now that you leave if you don't like it here - rather than disrupt this board with your constant complaints and abuse. I think it would be best if you did leave. You are obviously very unhappy here, not only with FD's administration, but you don't like many of the members either.

This forum isn't just about catering to your demands. Most of the members here make an effort to get along and compromise - but not you. [/quote]



mantra you and I had a similar problem not that long ago.. we sorted it out on PM..maybe you and lisa could try the same.. I dont see Lisa like you do...I dont come on here much but she always seems pretty stable to me..I mean as long as someone isnt whingeing about you or too you what does it matter?.

.I am sure the mods can look after themselves.. at least I hope so and I am sure FD doesnt need us to defend him..strewth, I have enough to do defending myself..[/quote]

I think it would be a lost cause trying to make peace with Lisa. Perhaps if she laid off the name calling it might help. I find it very offensive to be called a multi troll/flamer/clone, Mad Mantra etc. continually. I understand these references are often made because of the restrictions of her limited vocabulary but that's no excuse.

Sorry Cods but I've seen her put down to many people in the past year. If she's not correcting their punctuation, grammar or demeaning them - she's name calling. She can't even stop at that and has to copy the same highlighted post over and over again ad nauseum - then bump it another dozen times for good measure.

I'll just collect her abusive posts from now on and send them with links to all the mods. Perhaps someone will have the guts to stand up to her.

]


:) :)  Poor Lisa ...
admit it - you like  it!! ;) ;)

I mean ... I've rousted on you , and Cods, and methinks at times, Mantra.....  sorry my memory for minutiae (like long past posts)  is taken up with more interesting things .. but oh yes Lisa - Lisa Lisa Lisa ,,,,,<<<

And A Hicks for that matter.... see ur the same....more or less... you like to dish ( nay ..shovel it) out  .....
but you get all angsty when you get it shovelled back at you.

So - don't like it ???
You know where to go.   :)

Plus++

If you- any of you -want to pose as a woman on this forum- I think for honesty's sake, ...u should still use your profile to indicate your gender.
Why is that? U axe?

Privacy and all .. doesn't require it,  but ....

..if you want to carry on an honest and potentially helpful discussion about 'whatever'  I THINK it is important that we have the most basic understanding of whom we are talking to.  And that is most certainly not race, creed or colour, but GENDER.

I don't expect you neuters out there to comply, ...it WOULD BE GOOD tho. :)
Up to you.  Hiding your gender, as you clearly apprehend, does provide you with some (?) protection?  but from what I remain unsure - it remains in your mind.

Pansi !!  
re beautiful singing soulful activists?!!!

Hardest worker/ most influential - at the interface ..... is Michael Franti.  !!!!!!
and Spearhead.  Perhaps I'm yrs out of date?  But ...?

Don't know if they still put it all together,  ... hope so... because I don't know of any other relatively mainstream musician who has such an impact.  

OF course... those who don't want to hear, never will.!!

Here you go Mod. You like this kind of stuff.  

Thanks for stuffing up my conversation Jalane, you're a pal. (mentalist) <unsubscribes>

Emma wrote on Nov 20^th, 2011 at 1:40am:

Plus++ If you- any of you -want to pose as a woman on this forum- I think for honesty's sake, ...u should still use your profile to indicate your gender. Why is that? U axe? Privacy and all .. doesn't require it,  but .... ..if you want to carry on an honest and potentially helpful discussion about 'whatever'  I THINK it is important that we have the most basic understanding of whom we are talking to.  And that is most certainly not race, creed or colour, but GENDER. I don't expect you neuters out there to comply, ...it WOULD BE GOOD tho. :) Up to you.  Hiding your gender, as you clearly apprehend, does provide you with some (?) protection?  but from what I remain unsure - it remains in your mind.

Out of curiosity Jalene - why is the gender of a member so important? Some are happy to disclose it, others aren't. That's their prerogative.

[i]Out of curiosity Jalene - why is the gender of a member so important?
Some are happy to disclose it, others aren't.
That's their prerogative. [/i]-  Mantra

Indeed, it is everyone's prerogative.
I think knowing the gender of your peers in , shall we say provocative , discussions ... is important in helping one to 'understand' that person, and their position.

I dislike and disapprove of 'language' 'words' which are gender - specific. Like - say - Fisherman. Should be Fisher.
I mean in the human psyche, this split between sexes is almost impossible to overcome, and it is a problem.

Not just for women .. but for society. Perceptions /Beliefs/Fears ... men have about women, and vice versa, might actually lose some of it's potency, if people were honest.  And society would benefit.
Thats all I mean.  By not disclosing your gender, you are holding back from honesty.

Of course, there could be many reasons for this.!!!

But as person I prefer face to face -  and on the net, like here, you don't know who you are talking to.

And it concerns me.  Of course, everyone can lie on this forum, with impunity. And do,  :)

Diddums??!!

Thanks for stuffing up my conversation Jalane, you're a pal. (mentalist) <unsubscribes>

Sorry Grey - didn't realise it was YOUR CONVERSATION>!!

Well smack my wrist!!
'as oo 'spat the dummy' Grey?

That would be a shame.!

]


  Poor Lisa ...
admit it - you like  it!!  

I mean ... I've rousted on you , and Cods, and methinks at times, Mantra.....  sorry my memory for minutiae (like long past posts)  is taken up with more interesting things .. but oh yes Lisa - Lisa Lisa Lisa ,,,,,<<<

And A Hicks for that matter.... see ur the same....more or less... you like to dish ( nay ..shovel it) out  .....
but you get all angsty when you get it shovelled back at you.

So - don't like it ???
You know where to go.  

yes you certainly have dished it out to myself..when I wasnt even in conversation with you..I dont think it hurts to use a few manners on a forum like this.. I have never seen the thing mantra says Lisa does constantly so I tend to speak as I find..

I seem to be out of step with most on here.. therefore draw a lot of flack as well as those that support my attackers..but thats life..

as you say they can dish it out but can they take it...not as a rule..

and my experiance, all personal of course is the bigger the attacker the more they are inclind to whinge and complain.if you have a go back at them.. then they blame you for starting it.. which isnt usually the truth..

and dont you love the ones that bring up something said in the past... but dont you dare to it to them...

wait untill you get old... that is a big NO NO on here sadly.

Hmmnnn....as far as I can tell, much of the relevant evidence has been magically-disappeared - including most of what went on here last night!

BTW, I support the decision to remove the worst of last night's bi@tching - I, for one, was disturbed by the nature and extent of some of the personal attacks and accusations.

:-X

deleted - not worth the bother

Equitist wrote on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 9:41am:

Hmmnnn....as far as I can tell, much of the relevant evidence has been magically-disappeared - including most of what went on here last night! BTW, I support the decision to remove the worst of last night's bi@tching - I, for one, was disturbed by the nature and extent of some of the personal attacks and accusations. :-X

Alas! I just happened across an explanation over here: -

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1321831771/1#1

mantra wrote on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 9:53am:

deleted - not worth the bother

Good decision, Mantra!

That said, I managed to read through the original post before you deleted it - and some of those quotes were even more disturbing when revisited in the cold hard light of day...

For what it's worth, I'm sure that most regular and/or long-term posters would agree that the serial attacks on you have been despicably vicious and unwarranted!

;)

Equitist wrote on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 10:08am:

mantra wrote on Nov 21st, 2011 at 9:53am: deleted - not worth the bother Good decision, Mantra! That said, I managed to read through the original post before you deleted it - and some of those quotes were even more disturbing when revisited in the cold hard light of day... For what it's worth, I'm sure that most regular and/or long-term posters would agree that the serial attacks on you have been despicably vicious and unwarranted! ;)

I appreciate your comments Equitist.

mantra wrote on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 10:12am:

Equitist wrote on Nov 21st, 2011 at 10:08am: mantra wrote on Nov 21st, 2011 at 9:53am: deleted - not worth the bother Good decision, Mantra! That said, I managed to read through the original post before you deleted it - and some of those quotes were even more disturbing when revisited in the cold hard light of day... For what it's worth, I'm sure that most regular and/or long-term posters would agree that the serial attacks on you have been despicably vicious and unwarranted! ;) I appreciate your comments Equitist.

Anyone that read here can clearly see that mantra is not anything like lisa portrays her to be,and the same people can make up their own minds as to Lisa's mental state.

Cheers, Mantra!

Exactly, Skipp!

Just because someone doesn't chip in to provide moral support, does not necessarily mean that they have not noted the underlying issues - nor the real culprit/s...

;)

Equitist wrote on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 10:08am:

mantra wrote on Nov 21st, 2011 at 9:53am: deleted - not worth the bother Good decision, Mantra! That said, I managed to read through the original post before you deleted it - and some of those quotes were even more disturbing when revisited in the cold hard light of day... For what it's worth, I'm sure that most regular and/or long-term posters would agree that the serial attacks on you have been despicably vicious and unwarranted! ;)

true, one of the few times I agree with equit

MMM I just tried getting into  'Please Ban.."  and was advised of an error.  I am not allowed to access it.

I assume this is due to mods removing the thread.  Just out of interest, what was the other thread the was removed??
Like to know if I'd participated in it.   Am I considered a 'bad egg' ? :-/

Emma wrote on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 6:51pm:

MMM I just tried getting into  'Please Ban.."  and was advised of an error.  I am not allowed to access it. I assume this is due to mods removing the thread.  Just out of interest, what was the other thread the was removed?? Like to know if I'd participated in it.

I can't remember the name of the other thread that was removed, but when a thread is deleted it's usually because the content is unacceptable or illegal.


Quote:

Am I considered a 'bad egg' ? :-/

If you were - I think you'd know it by now.

mantra wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2011 at 9:22am:

Emma wrote on Nov 21st, 2011 at 6:51pm: MMM I just tried getting into  'Please Ban.."  and was advised of an error.  I am not allowed to access it. I assume this is due to mods removing the thread.  Just out of interest, what was the other thread the was removed?? Like to know if I'd participated in it.   I can't remember the name of the other thread that was removed, but when a thread is deleted it's usually because the content is unacceptable or illegal. Quote: Am I considered a 'bad egg' ? :-/ If you were - I think you'd know it by now.

mantra there was a time you would bag me over just about everything.

you did put up some things I said about you.. which I think I took back apologized for.but what you didnt do was put up the things you said about me..

and this is what happens with most who complain about someone.. they only remember the barbs they receive..it wasnt untill I pointed out what a certain someone was saying about me.. that you evenknew about it.. he has since been banned for ever...

when someone becomes an object of scorn on these places it seem to trigger off a few others following in the footsteps..mostly men I have found.

someone prints up a lie and from then on some feel the need to perpetuate that lie..for instance I was accused of drinking and being drunk when I made a certain referrence..[ a joke]I very quickly got on my high horse to scotch that rumour.I was possibly rude whilst doing so..


somethings said in jest or spite...do bring out the worst in some of us..

like jalane I didnt see the thread that was locked..but it seems to me we will never move on whilst we keep pointing fingers.

cods wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2011 at 12:19pm:

mantra there was a time you would bag me over just about everything. you did put up some things I said about you.. which I think I took back apologized for.but what you didnt do was put up the things you said about me.. and this is what happens with most who complain about someone.. they only remember the barbs they receive..it wasnt untill I pointed out what a certain someone was saying about me.. that you evenknew about it.. he has since been banned for ever... when someone becomes an object of scorn on these places it seem to trigger off a few others following in the footsteps..mostly men I have found. someone prints up a lie and from then on some feel the need to perpetuate that lie..for instance I was accused of drinking and being drunk when I made a certain referrence..[ a joke]I very quickly got on my high horse to scotch that rumour.I was possibly rude whilst doing so.. somethings said in jest or spite...do bring out the worst in some of us.. like jalane I didnt see the thread that was locked..but it seems to me we will never move on whilst we keep pointing fingers.

I can't remember bagging you over everything Cods because I didn't participate much in the Politics forum, but yes when the Yahoos first arrived I made a couple of mean comments to you and for that I apologise. At the time I believed they were justified, but nonetheless they were out of line. You can pack a mighty left hook yourself Cods when you're in the mood - but sometimes you get hit back harder. We learn the hard way.

Jalene and I had a bit of a clash in a thread too - opposing views and attitudes, but it would never have occurred to me to report you, Jalene or any of the others who occasionally throw darts that might hurt for a bit.

I will report someone who I believe is slandering this board or another member and throwing accusations around that certain members are perpetrators of crime or that they're aiding and abetting illegal activity. It's so easy to get forums closed down if someone wants to be particularly nasty. Accusing members of crimes on a public community board is dangerous and those who send these messages are deliberately intending to destroy trust that's taken years to build up.

Emma wrote on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 6:51pm:

MMM I just tried getting into  'Please Ban.."  and was advised of an error.  I am not allowed to access it. I assume this is due to mods removing the thread.  Just out of interest, what was the other thread the was removed?? Like to know if I'd participated in it.   Am I considered a 'bad egg' ? :-/

You're a very bad egg Jalane  ::)

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1321782440/30

mantra wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2011 at 2:44pm:

cods wrote on Nov 22nd, 2011 at 12:19pm: mantra there was a time you would bag me over just about everything. you did put up some things I said about you.. which I think I took back apologized for.but what you didnt do was put up the things you said about me.. and this is what happens with most who complain about someone.. they only remember the barbs they receive..it wasnt untill I pointed out what a certain someone was saying about me.. that you evenknew about it.. he has since been banned for ever... when someone becomes an object of scorn on these places it seem to trigger off a few others following in the footsteps..mostly men I have found. someone prints up a lie and from then on some feel the need to perpetuate that lie..for instance I was accused of drinking and being drunk when I made a certain referrence..[ a joke]I very quickly got on my high horse to scotch that rumour.I was possibly rude whilst doing so.. somethings said in jest or spite...do bring out the worst in some of us.. like jalane I didnt see the thread that was locked..but it seems to me we will never move on whilst we keep pointing fingers. I can't remember bagging you over everything Cods because I didn't participate much in the Politics forum, but yes when the Yahoos first arrived I made a couple of mean comments to you and for that I apologise. At the time I believed they were justified, but nonetheless they were out of line. You can pack a mighty left hook yourself Cods when you're in the mood - but sometimes you get hit back harder. We learn the hard way. Jalene and I had a bit of a clash in a thread too - opposing views and attitudes, but it would never have occurred to me to report you, Jalene or any of the others who occasionally throw darts that might hurt for a bit. I will report someone who I believe is slandering this board or another member and throwing accusations around that certain members are perpetrators of crime or that they're aiding and abetting illegal activity. It's so easy to get forums closed down if someone wants to be particularly nasty. Accusing members of crimes on a public community board is dangerous and those who send these messages are deliberately intending to destroy trust that's taken years to build up.

exactly my argument as well... I wasnt in particular shooting you down it was all in general..sometimes we take on board what is said to us.. without heeding what we say back.

to be honest when I say anything really nasty.. [which I hate btw].. it in retaliation .. get your own back..and yes its not a good look I used to hate myself afterwards so was very pleased I got pulled up over it.

but you do have to admit... its the ones that dish it out that do the most whingeing.. well at least thats what I find.

I just think its a shame the boards are brought down to the lowest level..

I reported lisagreek for personal abuse.. and deadhorse for stuffing up the threads with his constant highlighted oneliners.

mainly I tell them when I am going to do it... if they come back at me then I know thats what they want me to do... either that or they are in need.of help!!!!!

GOOD GOOD GOOD

We can all agree to disagree ...with malice.. if we choose.
Nothing personal, .. as said above - its not about the poster - its about the topic.
And , sometimes it helps to make a point.  :)

You're a very bad egg Jalane  

:) Thanks Grey

You just knew I couldn't resist that link.
Pls forgive my faux pas'.
::) 8-)

We can all agree to disagree ...with malice.. if we choose. (Jalane)  Didn't mean it the way it might sound.

Malice was probably the wrong word.
:-?

Emma wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2011 at 9:33pm:

You're a very bad egg Jalane   :) Thanks Grey You just knew I couldn't resist that link. Pls forgive my faux pas'. ::) 8-) We can all agree to disagree ...with malice.. if we choose. (Jalane)  Didn't mean it the way it might sound. Malice was probably the wrong word. :-?

What about objectionable? That doesn't sound so vicious. Most of us clash occasionally over a topic and say something you hope will annoy your opponent. Usually it's pretty harmless in the scheme of things and definitely not worth holding a grudge over.

MMMM - not bad ........'objectionable'    umm .. but that means people will object!!  ;) ;D

Which we want to avoid it seems.  so  its a question, yeah?

How about >>>>
Obnoxious!!.  :)

Emma wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2011 at 9:59pm:

MMMM - not bad ........'objectionable'    umm .. but that means people will object!!  ;) ;D Which we want to avoid it seems.  so  its a question, yeah? How about >>>> Obnoxious!!.  :)

Obnoxious sounds about right. Good thinking.

mantra wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2011 at 10:01pm:

Emma wrote on Nov 22nd, 2011 at 9:59pm: MMMM - not bad ........'objectionable'    umm .. but that means people will object!!  ;) ;D Which we want to avoid it seems.  so  its a question, yeah? How about >>>> Obnoxious!!.  :) Obnoxious sounds about right. Good thinking.

Nah, you're both a bit pusillanimous IMO. Excrement is a good word and some deserve all the opprobium you can heap upon them.  ;D

Obnoxious sounds about right. Good thinking.
ta for that Mantra.

Then there is sarcasm? ..so-called lowest form of humor?  But some of us don't always get it.  Like me for example :)
Or ,,,  ?? actually I think I am having a conversation with you.. :o.  so THAT's what Grey may have been alluding to.!! ::)

So good onya Mantra - it is after all best not to take some things to heart. :)

Cheers

Nah, you're both a bit pusillanimous IMO. Excrement is a good word and some deserve all the opprobium you can heap upon them. - Grey

I think I'll check my Dictionary - -- 'cos I think I know what it means. :)

And you COULD include faeces - .........  last time I used sh.t it was instantly translated as POO. ;D ;D ;D
How about  'crap' ?

See?? I'm not pusillanimous !!  
>:( >:(

Bring it ON Grey -  big fella.!!! ;D

Quote:

How about  'crap' ?

Desperately bogan I'm afraid, 'scat' would be a better choice or careful use of 'effluvium' would score well.

Nuh - scat is no good ....  I  don't think  most people, let alone bogans, would know what scat is. Needs to be much more common.!!!!!!!! :)
DITTO FOR affluvium.   ::) ::)

More like ........

Diarrhoea  or  - GASTRO!!

Wouldn't you agree? ;)

Hey Mantra !!  's OK - catch you later, if this is  'on the nose' for you.
:) :)

Wouldn't you agree, Grey?

No?? :o

'you're .. a bit pusillanimous IMO' - Grey


Actually Grey ' a bit pusillanimous '  describes you  - I can't think of a less cowardly term than affluvium! ....
'albeit '....... good vocabulary.!! :P :P

UH OH UH OH

UH...seems I'm just TOO obnoxious.!!
Come on back Grey ,
then we'll call it a day. :)

No apologies - after all
I am the Red Creature
From MARS.!! :D

Grey wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 7:58pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 14th, 2011 at 7:31pm: They probably just haven't seen the comment. It is pretty awful. Oh they've seen it, I reported it. Quote: matty wrote on Yesterday at 7:20pm: log_me_in wrote on Yesterday at 7:09pm: Cameron and the rest of the left should be thanking his lucky stars it's only a letter. An assasination of any one of the leftys to bring on an election would have no one shedding a tear. There would be partying in the streets and whoever pulled the trigger would be a national hero Anyone who got rid of one Labor Lower House MP would be my lifelong hero. I think saying anybody who pulled the trigger would be a hero IS incitement.

This is a common misconception Grey, I do not think the report button does anything, at least it doen't do anything I have ever been notified of.

If there is EVER a post which is of concern, then PM the mods.

I certainly do not have time to screen the whole forum, or even a small part of it, but I always check all posts that are reported to me via PM, which is why I always say, if you have ANY concerns over a post, or member, PM FD or myself, and we will look at it.
If I do not get a PM about posts like you are talking about here, then I would never know they wee there, but as soon as I do, I will take the necessary actions.

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pls explain PM the mods. :-[

So? I am not au fait with all acronyms.
:) :-[

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pls explain PM the mods. :-[

So? I am not au fait with all acronyms.
:) :-[/quote]


They went to bed without answering you......how rude!

PM stands for 'private message'

at the bottom left of your post there are three buttons.

The middle one is PM, if you press it you will go into another window where you can send an email to forum members.

Try sending me one for practice  :)

In the box above the message box you will see

To Recipient (click here to select) an alphabetical list will come up so you can choose "P" for moi

write your cool message and click 'send'

catchya later alligator

Ta Pansi  :)