What do Liberals stand for ??

The Liberals stand for:-

- No Vision for the future
- Luddite mentality
- keeping everyone in the dark and in the past
- Zero career prospects for people
- Low education standards
- Casualization of the work force with crap job prospects
- Making lame excuses to do nothing
- Free trade agreements decimating manufacturing and losing jobs
- Manufacture absolutely nothing and focus on digging crap out of the ground or planting seeds
- Set fire to coal mentality at any cost
- Destroy the environment without worrying about the consequences
- Do not promote excellence
- Worship rich corporations and keep the majority enslaved to them
- Dumb down the population and the media
- Sell off public assets and privatise everything and then charge the punters more for services
- A health care system based on the US health care system which murders its own citizens
- Waste tax payers money on useless sporting events and creating jobs for your own family members

as well as:

- The Liberals stand for the rights of the rich people to get richer.
- They stand for the exploitation of working class people in dingy unsafe factories.
- They believe in the "trickle down" effect where if you reward rich people the money will reach the poor as well.
- The Liberals stand for individual rights & not for the rights of society or a nation.
- The Liberals believe in a born to rule mentality.
- This means that if you are born poor then you shouldn't have the same rights to a top education or health care as a rich person.
- The Liberals believe in a shopkeeper mentality which came from Margaret Thatcher.
- A true Liberal always has a copy of one her books by his or her bedside

- but then there's Malcolm Turnbull...

Bobby. wrote on Sep 26^th, 2011 at 9:29pm:

What do Liberals stand for ?? The Liberals stand for:- - No Vision for the future - Luddite mentality - keeping everyone in the dark and in the past - Zero career prospects for people - Low education standards - Casualization of the work force with crap job prospects - Making lame excuses to do nothing - Free trade agreements decimating manufacturing and losing jobs - Manufacture absolutely nothing and focus on digging crap out of the ground or planting seeds - Set fire to coal mentality at any cost - Destroy the environment without worrying about the consequences - Do not promote excellence - Worship rich corporations and keep the majority enslaved to them - Dumb down the population and the media - Sell off public assets and privatise everything and then charge the punters more for services - A health care system based on the US health care system which murders its own citizens - Waste tax payers money on useless sporting events and creating jobs for your own family members as well as: - The Liberals stand for the rights of the rich people to get richer. - They stand for the exploitation of working class people in dingy unsafe factories. - They believe in the "trickle down" effect where if you reward rich people the money will reach the poor as well. - The Liberals stand for individual rights & not for the rights of society or a nation. - The Liberals believe in a born to rule mentality. - This means that if you are born poor then you shouldn't have the same rights to a top education or health care as a rich person. - The Liberals believe in a shopkeeper mentality which came from Margaret Thatcher. - A true Liberal always has a copy of one her books by his or her bedside

could you post a link for those policies please ?

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 27^th, 2011 at 8:27am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 26th, 2011 at 9:29pm: What do Liberals stand for ?? The Liberals stand for:- - No Vision for the future - Luddite mentality - keeping everyone in the dark and in the past - Zero career prospects for people - Low education standards - Casualization of the work force with crap job prospects - Making lame excuses to do nothing - Free trade agreements decimating manufacturing and losing jobs - Manufacture absolutely nothing and focus on digging crap out of the ground or planting seeds - Set fire to coal mentality at any cost - Destroy the environment without worrying about the consequences - Do not promote excellence - Worship rich corporations and keep the majority enslaved to them - Dumb down the population and the media - Sell off public assets and privatise everything and then charge the punters more for services - A health care system based on the US health care system which murders its own citizens - Waste tax payers money on useless sporting events and creating jobs for your own family members as well as: - The Liberals stand for the rights of the rich people to get richer. - They stand for the exploitation of working class people in dingy unsafe factories. - They believe in the "trickle down" effect where if you reward rich people the money will reach the poor as well. - The Liberals stand for individual rights & not for the rights of society or a nation. - The Liberals believe in a born to rule mentality. - This means that if you are born poor then you shouldn't have the same rights to a top education or health care as a rich person. - The Liberals believe in a shopkeeper mentality which came from Margaret Thatcher. - A true Liberal always has a copy of one her books by his or her bedside could you post a link for those policies please ?

Can you tell us what the libbos stand for ??

What is their vision for the future ??

Why would a battler vote for the libbos ??

The current liberal government stands for a very tea-party style minimal government.

They will adopt a very conservative mode of operation and pare government responsibility back to the bare minimum.  They think Australia is about "perfect", and therefore needs no tinkering or upkeep.

This is why they make refo's a big deal. (Dont want newcomers here),  this is why they are against the NBN (Internet is just fine as it is), and dont want a carbon tax (we're fine just now, so dont worry about the future), and mining tax (worry about the bust later)

Unfortuntely this is a very short sighted position. They will run down education, infrastructure, and let the private sector run things. This has the effect of minimizing tax you pay to the government, but increasing living costs through "private tax" you need to pay for things you once got (private education, toll roads, etc ).

The end result is the people are no better off, but more likely to be worse off as the private investment is very targetted at profit profile. Some get, some miss out.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 27^th, 2011 at 8:27am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 26th, 2011 at 9:29pm: What do Liberals stand for ?? The Liberals stand for:- - No Vision for the future - Luddite mentality - keeping everyone in the dark and in the past - Zero career prospects for people - Low education standards - Casualization of the work force with crap job prospects - Making lame excuses to do nothing - Free trade agreements decimating manufacturing and losing jobs - Manufacture absolutely nothing and focus on digging crap out of the ground or planting seeds - Set fire to coal mentality at any cost - Destroy the environment without worrying about the consequences - Do not promote excellence - Worship rich corporations and keep the majority enslaved to them - Dumb down the population and the media - Sell off public assets and privatise everything and then charge the punters more for services - A health care system based on the US health care system which murders its own citizens - Waste tax payers money on useless sporting events and creating jobs for your own family members as well as: - The Liberals stand for the rights of the rich people to get richer. - They stand for the exploitation of working class people in dingy unsafe factories. - They believe in the "trickle down" effect where if you reward rich people the money will reach the poor as well. - The Liberals stand for individual rights & not for the rights of society or a nation. - The Liberals believe in a born to rule mentality. - This means that if you are born poor then you shouldn't have the same rights to a top education or health care as a rich person. - The Liberals believe in a shopkeeper mentality which came from Margaret Thatcher. - A true Liberal always has a copy of one her books by his or her bedside could you post a link for those policies please ?

Of course not - they won't tell you that - it would look bad.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 26^th, 2011 at 9:29pm:

What do Liberals stand for ?? The Liberals stand for:- - No Vision for the future - Luddite mentality - keeping everyone in the dark and in the past - Zero career prospects for people - Low education standards - Casualization of the work force with crap job prospects - Making lame excuses to do nothing - Free trade agreements decimating manufacturing and losing jobs - Manufacture absolutely nothing and focus on digging crap out of the ground or planting seeds - Set fire to coal mentality at any cost - Destroy the environment without worrying about the consequences - Do not promote excellence - Worship rich corporations and keep the majority enslaved to them - Dumb down the population and the media - Sell off public assets and privatise everything and then charge the punters more for services - A health care system based on the US health care system which murders its own citizens - Waste tax payers money on useless sporting events and creating jobs for your own family members as well as: - The Liberals stand for the rights of the rich people to get richer. - They stand for the exploitation of working class people in dingy unsafe factories. - They believe in the "trickle down" effect where if you reward rich people the money will reach the poor as well. - The Liberals stand for individual rights & not for the rights of society or a nation. - The Liberals believe in a born to rule mentality. - This means that if you are born poor then you shouldn't have the same rights to a top education or health care as a rich person. - The Liberals believe in a shopkeeper mentality which came from Margaret Thatcher. - A true Liberal always has a copy of one her books by his or her bedside

At least they stand for something. Can't say the same about Labor.

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........Can you tell us what the libbos stand for ?? What is their vision for the future ?? Why would a battler vote for the libbos ??...........

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.........In short, we simply believe in individual freedom and free enterprise; and if you share this belief, then ours is the Party for you..........

http://www.liberal.org.au/The-Party/Our-Beliefs.aspx



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We Believe... In the inalienable rights and freedoms of all peoples; and we work towards a lean government that minimises interference in our daily lives; and maximises individual and private sector initiative In government that nurtures and encourages its citizens through incentive, rather than putting limits on people through the punishing disincentives of burdensome taxes and the stifling structures of Labor's corporate state and bureaucratic red tape. In those most basic freedoms of parliamentary democracy - the freedom of thought, worship, speech and association. In a just and humane society in which the importance of the family and the role of law and justice is maintained. In equal opportunity for all Australians; and the encouragement and facilitation of wealth so that all may enjoy the highest possible standards of living, health, education and social justice. That, wherever possible, government should not compete with an efficient private sector; and that businesses and individuals - not government - are the true creators of wealth and employment. In preserving Australia's natural beauty and the environment for future generations. That our nation has a constructive role to play in maintaining world peace and democracy through alliance with other free nations.

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..........we simply believe in individual freedom and free enterprise.........

which is where the Libs and the ALP are fundamentally different

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 27^th, 2011 at 3:26pm:

Quote: ..........we simply believe in individual freedom and free enterprise......... which is where the Libs and the ALP are fundamentally different

What about the Individual right to a good job? Which Workchoices took away.

noones got a "right to a good job."

that's leftard mentality

Soren wrote on Sep 27^th, 2011 at 3:15pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 26th, 2011 at 9:29pm: What do Liberals stand for ?? The Liberals stand for:- - No Vision for the future - Luddite mentality - keeping everyone in the dark and in the past - Zero career prospects for people - Low education standards - Casualization of the work force with crap job prospects - Making lame excuses to do nothing - Free trade agreements decimating manufacturing and losing jobs - Manufacture absolutely nothing and focus on digging crap out of the ground or planting seeds - Set fire to coal mentality at any cost - Destroy the environment without worrying about the consequences - Do not promote excellence - Worship rich corporations and keep the majority enslaved to them - Dumb down the population and the media - Sell off public assets and privatise everything and then charge the punters more for services - A health care system based on the US health care system which murders its own citizens - Waste tax payers money on useless sporting events and creating jobs for your own family members as well as: - The Liberals stand for the rights of the rich people to get richer. - They stand for the exploitation of working class people in dingy unsafe factories. - They believe in the "trickle down" effect where if you reward rich people the money will reach the poor as well. - The Liberals stand for individual rights & not for the rights of society or a nation. - The Liberals believe in a born to rule mentality. - This means that if you are born poor then you shouldn't have the same rights to a top education or health care as a rich person. - The Liberals believe in a shopkeeper mentality which came from Margaret Thatcher. - A true Liberal always has a copy of one her books by his or her bedside At least they stand for something. Can't say the same about Labor.

The problem with Labor is that they coulndn't manage a chook raffle in a pub.
They waste money - they can never manage money.
They always go into huge debt to try & win votes.


This is why I voted Green at the last election -
both major parties stand for nothing that's good & are only
power hungry psychopaths so the best
defense is to have a party holding the balance of power to try & control them.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 27^th, 2011 at 3:26pm:

Quote: ..........we simply believe in individual freedom and free enterprise......... which is where the Libs and the ALP are fundamentally different

free enterprise only when its a monopoly that screws everybody by making sure the playing field is not level !!

when it comes to the little guy competing with the energy monopolies then libbos notion of free enterprise goes right out the door :(

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 27^th, 2011 at 8:17pm:

noones got a "right to a good job." that's leftard mentality

just remember what you said when your rich greedy libbo mates Gerry Harvey and co start squealing about the battler looking for a better deal and buying direct online and cutting them out of the equation ;) Nobody owes Gerry a job either ;)

Australian Liberals stand for anti socialism.

Socialism sux.

Look at Europe.  The social democracies are all broke.  Juliar and her comrades Bob Brown, Adam, Rob, Tony & Wilkie are doing their socialist best to copy their act...... :( :( :( :(

Swagman wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2011 at 10:04pm:

Australian Liberals stand for anti socialism. Socialism sux. Look at Europe.  The social democracies are all broke.  Juliar and her comrades Bob Brown, Adam, Rob, Tony & Wilkie are doing their socialist best to copy their act...... :( :( :( :(

So, Timbo, care to comment upon the fiscal circumstances of the USA!?

........I forgot Obama....he's doing the same

liberals stand for selling the farm!!!!

GEE, THAT WAS HARD!  ::)

Swagman wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2011 at 10:04pm:

Australian Liberals stand for anti socialism. Socialism sux. Look at Europe.  The social democracies are all broke.  Juliar and her comrades Bob Brown, Adam, Rob, Tony & Wilkie are doing their socialist best to copy their act...... :( :( :( :(

Europe has always been a mess- well maybe for 100 years.
WW2 really wrecked the place & they never fully recovered.

England was rich before WW2 but now it's a nation in huge debt & rising poverty.

The only country that did  well - even though they lost, was Germany but even they have lent
too much money to lazy good for nothing countries like Greece.

Tony Abbott; There’ll be no NBN, no flood levy, no carbon tax under a government I lead” Oh, and no boats.No big new taxes , no lies...



“Having built his leadership so successfully on opposition to the tax and keeping political promises" , it now must surely  be time  for  Abbott to sink in to the 'sunset of the back bench'  and give someone else a chance at the  leadership role.


I don't see the need or relevance  of Abbott any more ?

Swagman wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2011 at 10:04pm:

Australian Liberals stand for anti socialism. Socialism sux. Look at Europe.  The social democracies are all broke.  Juliar and her comrades Bob Brown, Adam, Rob, Tony & Wilkie are doing their socialist best to copy their act...... :( :( :( :(

Yes, and everybody knows the Scandanavian countries are economic basket cases.

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Oct 12^th, 2011 at 2:36pm:

Swagman wrote on Oct 3rd, 2011 at 10:04pm: Australian Liberals stand for anti socialism. Socialism sux. Look at Europe.  The social democracies are all broke.  Juliar and her comrades Bob Brown, Adam, Rob, Tony & Wilkie are doing their socialist best to copy their act...... :( :( :( :( Yes, and everybody knows the Scandanavian countries are economic basket cases.

Australian Labor stands for a many million strong public service army
& monster taxes to pay them.
At least the Libbos try to trim it down a bit.
I voted Green just to try & keep the whole sorry lot honest.

Unfortunately the Carbon Tax will create a whole new army of public servants.

Bobby. wrote on Oct 12^th, 2011 at 8:31pm:

Paki gob on a stick wrote on Oct 12th, 2011 at 2:36pm: Swagman wrote on Oct 3rd, 2011 at 10:04pm: Australian Liberals stand for anti socialism. Socialism sux. Look at Europe.  The social democracies are all broke.  Juliar and her comrades Bob Brown, Adam, Rob, Tony & Wilkie are doing their socialist best to copy their act...... :( :( :( :( Yes, and everybody knows the Scandanavian countries are economic basket cases. Australian Labor stands for a many million strong public service army & monster taxes to pay them. At least the Libbos try to trim it down a bit. I voted Green just to try & keep the whole sorry lot honest. Unfortunately the Carbon Tax will create a whole new army of public servants.

Ask Greece how that panned out for them.

qikvtec wrote on Oct 12^th, 2011 at 8:36pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 12th, 2011 at 8:31pm: Paki gob on a stick wrote on Oct 12th, 2011 at 2:36pm: Swagman wrote on Oct 3rd, 2011 at 10:04pm: Australian Liberals stand for anti socialism. Socialism sux. Look at Europe.  The social democracies are all broke.  Juliar and her comrades Bob Brown, Adam, Rob, Tony & Wilkie are doing their socialist best to copy their act...... :( :( :( :( Yes, and everybody knows the Scandanavian countries are economic basket cases. Australian Labor stands for a many million strong public service army & monster taxes to pay them. At least the Libbos try to trim it down a bit. I voted Green just to try & keep the whole sorry lot honest. Unfortunately the Carbon Tax will create a whole new army of public servants. Ask Greece how that panned out for them.

Greece is a good example of what happens when you have too many public servants.
Gillard wants us to be like Greece.
At least the Libbos cut down on Public servants - or maybe they try their best to do that?

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Oct 4^th, 2011 at 8:27pm:

liberals stand for selling the farm!!!! GEE, THAT WAS HARD!  ::)

Bye Bye Abbott!

Is that Turnbull knocking? Who else could it be?????  ;D

Liberals stand for the National Anthem !!

Trade liberalisation through tariff-reduction and free-trade agreements is widely agreed to have increased Australians' living standards immensely.

The Liberal party stands for smaller government, less taxes, and labour market flexibility.

circle wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2011 at 10:08pm:

Trade liberalisation through tariff-reduction and free-trade agreements is widely agreed to have increased Australians' living standards immensely. The Liberal party stands for smaller government, less taxes, and labour market flexibility.

No they don't - read my introduction to the Liberals:
The Liberals stand for:-


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- No Vision for the future - Luddite mentality - keeping everyone in the dark and in the past - Zero career prospects for people - Low education standards - Casualization of the work force with crap job prospects - Making lame excuses to do nothing - Free trade agreements decimating manufacturing and losing jobs - Manufacture absolutely nothing and focus on digging crap out of the ground or planting seeds - Set fire to coal mentality at any cost - Destroy the environment without worrying about the consequences - Do not promote excellence - Worship rich corporations and keep the majority enslaved to them - Dumb down the population and the media - Sell off public assets and privatise everything and then charge the punters more for services - A health care system based on the US health care system which murders its own citizens - Waste tax payers money on useless sporting events and creating jobs for your own family members as well as: - The Liberals stand for the rights of the rich people to get richer. - They stand for the exploitation of working class people in dingy unsafe factories. - They believe in the "trickle down" effect where if you reward rich people the money will reach the poor as well. - The Liberals stand for individual rights & not for the rights of society or a nation. - The Liberals believe in a born to rule mentality. - This means that if you are born poor then you shouldn't have the same rights to a top education or health care as a rich person. - The Liberals believe in a shopkeeper mentality which came from Margaret Thatcher. - A true Liberal always has a copy of one her books by his or her bedside

circle wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2011 at 10:08pm:

Trade liberalisation through tariff-reduction and free-trade agreements is widely agreed to have increased Australians' living standards immensely. The Liberal party stands for smaller government, less taxes, and labour market flexibility.

The libbos believe in a centralized energy policy which monopolizes energy supply and makes sure that the little guy cannot compete against large polluting energy corporations by generating and supplying renewable energy into the grid.

The libbos are Luddite scum that don't believe in technological progress :(

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2011 at 10:50pm:

circle wrote on Nov 23rd, 2011 at 10:08pm: Trade liberalisation through tariff-reduction and free-trade agreements is widely agreed to have increased Australians' living standards immensely. The Liberal party stands for smaller government, less taxes, and labour market flexibility. The libbos believe in a centralized energy policy which monopolizes energy supply and makes sure that the little guy cannot compete against large polluting energy corporations by generating and supplying renewable energy into the grid. The libbos are Luddite scum that don't believe in technological progress :(

Hi Nail,
The Libbos are great if you own a big business -
they make it easier for you to exploit workers.

Bobby. wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 8:19pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 23rd, 2011 at 10:50pm: circle wrote on Nov 23rd, 2011 at 10:08pm: Trade liberalisation through tariff-reduction and free-trade agreements is widely agreed to have increased Australians' living standards immensely. The Liberal party stands for smaller government, less taxes, and labour market flexibility. The libbos believe in a centralized energy policy which monopolizes energy supply and makes sure that the little guy cannot compete against large polluting energy corporations by generating and supplying renewable energy into the grid. The libbos are Luddite scum that don't believe in technological progress :( Hi Nail, The Libbos are great if you own a big business - they make it easier for you to exploit workers.

Howard did nothing for my business except make me pay more for an accountant to handle the GST :(

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 24^th, 2011 at 8:23pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:19pm: Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 23rd, 2011 at 10:50pm: circle wrote on Nov 23rd, 2011 at 10:08pm: Trade liberalisation through tariff-reduction and free-trade agreements is widely agreed to have increased Australians' living standards immensely. The Liberal party stands for smaller government, less taxes, and labour market flexibility. The libbos believe in a centralized energy policy which monopolizes energy supply and makes sure that the little guy cannot compete against large polluting energy corporations by generating and supplying renewable energy into the grid. The libbos are Luddite scum that don't believe in technological progress :( Hi Nail, The Libbos are great if you own a big business - they make it easier for you to exploit workers. Howard did nothing for my business except make me pay more for an accountant to handle the GST :(

Labor & Liberal are both the same party.
They are both just one train wreck after another.

GoddyofOz wrote on Sep 27^th, 2011 at 5:17pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 27th, 2011 at 3:26pm: Quote: ..........we simply believe in individual freedom and free enterprise......... which is where the Libs and the ALP are fundamentally different What about the Individual right to a good job? Which Workchoices took away.

What about the employers rights. Talk to small business owner you numpties. See how the inflexible machinations within the new legislation affects employers.  

This Labor govt has to be the worst in history for any small business. Small business which employs 70% of Australians.

Fairwork legislation has tarred all employers with the same brush, have a look at what small time manufacturers are going through, not only have they put their incomes on the line but the financial security of their families. If any of you have the balls - why don't you invest in employin your fellow Australians instead of blowing it out keyboards on a web forum.

edB wrote on Dec 6^th, 2011 at 12:04am:

GoddyofOz wrote on Sep 27th, 2011 at 5:17pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 27th, 2011 at 3:26pm: Quote: ..........we simply believe in individual freedom and free enterprise......... which is where the Libs and the ALP are fundamentally different What about the Individual right to a good job? Which Workchoices took away. What about the employers rights. Talk to small business owner you numpties. See how the inflexible machinations within the new legislation affects employers.   This Labor govt has to be the worst in history for any small business. Small business which employs 70% of Australians. Fairwork legislation has tarred all employers with the same brush, have a look at what small time manufacturers are going through, not only have they put their incomes on the line but the financial security of their families. If any of you have the balls - why don't you invest in employin your fellow Australians instead of blowing it out keyboards on a web forum.

IT'S CALLED ENTERPRISE MATE!

IF YOU AINT GOT IT YOU AINT GOT IT!!  ;D

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Dec 6^th, 2011 at 7:08pm:

edB wrote on Dec 6th, 2011 at 12:04am: GoddyofOz wrote on Sep 27th, 2011 at 5:17pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 27th, 2011 at 3:26pm: Quote: ..........we simply believe in individual freedom and free enterprise......... which is where the Libs and the ALP are fundamentally different What about the Individual right to a good job? Which Workchoices took away. What about the employers rights. Talk to small business owner you numpties. See how the inflexible machinations within the new legislation affects employers.   This Labor govt has to be the worst in history for any small business. Small business which employs 70% of Australians. Fairwork legislation has tarred all employers with the same brush, have a look at what small time manufacturers are going through, not only have they put their incomes on the line but the financial security of their families. If any of you have the balls - why don't you invest in employin your fellow Australians instead of blowing it out keyboards on a web forum. IT'S CALLED ENTERPRISE MATE! IF YOU AINT GOT IT YOU AINT GOT IT!!  ;D

So Mr Entrepreneur - how many Australians do you employ - I employ 32 how about you ?? Or is your contribution to Australian society limited to pounding onto a keyboard.

edB wrote on Dec 6^th, 2011 at 7:21pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Dec 6th, 2011 at 7:08pm: edB wrote on Dec 6th, 2011 at 12:04am: GoddyofOz wrote on Sep 27th, 2011 at 5:17pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 27th, 2011 at 3:26pm: Quote: ..........we simply believe in individual freedom and free enterprise......... which is where the Libs and the ALP are fundamentally different What about the Individual right to a good job? Which Workchoices took away. What about the employers rights. Talk to small business owner you numpties. See how the inflexible machinations within the new legislation affects employers.   This Labor govt has to be the worst in history for any small business. Small business which employs 70% of Australians. Fairwork legislation has tarred all employers with the same brush, have a look at what small time manufacturers are going through, not only have they put their incomes on the line but the financial security of their families. If any of you have the balls - why don't you invest in employin your fellow Australians instead of blowing it out keyboards on a web forum. IT'S CALLED ENTERPRISE MATE! IF YOU AINT GOT IT YOU AINT GOT IT!!  ;D So Mr Entrepreneur - how many Australians do you employ - I employ 32 how about you ?? Or is your contribution to Australian society limited to pounding onto a keyboard.

You're barking up the wrong tree dood!  :o

Go whip a slave !!  :D :D :D

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Dec 7^th, 2011 at 8:05pm:

You're barking up the wrong tree dood!  :o Go whip a slave !!  :D :D :D

Just as i thought - a keyboard puncher.  Why don't you grow up a little - slave whipping - bugger that i'd be selling their body parts.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 27^th, 2011 at 3:26pm:

Quote: ..........we simply believe in individual freedom and free enterprise......... which is where the Libs and the ALP are fundamentally different

No you don't and it's where the Libs and the ALP are fundamentally the same. Your both gangs out to control in your own ways. Where you are different lies in your flag. The Labor party doesn't operate under a false flag. If you want to be Tories at least have the decency to call yourselves that, or fascist, whatever, certainly not Liberal.

Grey wrote on Dec 7^th, 2011 at 9:24pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 27th, 2011 at 3:26pm: Quote: ..........we simply believe in individual freedom and free enterprise......... which is where the Libs and the ALP are fundamentally different No you don't and it's where the Libs and the ALP are fundamentally the same. Your both gangs out to control in your own ways. Where you are different lies in your flag. The Labor party doesn't operate under a false flag. If you want to be Tories at least have the decency to call yourselves that, or fascist, whatever, certainly not Liberal.

Seriously - what flag does Labor fly under. What would you suggest to be the ideal ideology for a party.

Both major parties have major issues - Australia needs a new third option, yet one which will never get off the ground becasue both major parties would try to stifle it.

Small enterprise is the major employer in Australia - they are the true economic liberals - the large players always contribute heavily to major parties and their rewards for doing so are always not obvious to the population. There is no difference between the lobby of large corporates and union lobbyists, each pushes for their own agenda and many times without thought for the public.

Its time for a revolution, we can start by hanging the bankers, financial advisers, government lobbyists, and lets not forget the lawyers.

It should be fun, who's with me  :)

edB wrote on Dec 8^th, 2011 at 12:14am:

Grey wrote on Dec 7th, 2011 at 9:24pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 27th, 2011 at 3:26pm: Quote: ..........we simply believe in individual freedom and free enterprise......... which is where the Libs and the ALP are fundamentally different No you don't and it's where the Libs and the ALP are fundamentally the same. Your both gangs out to control in your own ways. Where you are different lies in your flag. The Labor party doesn't operate under a false flag. If you want to be Tories at least have the decency to call yourselves that, or fascist, whatever, certainly not Liberal. Seriously - what flag does Labor fly under. What would you suggest to be the ideal ideology for a party. Both major parties have major issues - Australia needs a new third option, yet one which will never get off the ground becasue both major parties would try to stifle it. Small enterprise is the major employer in Australia - they are the true economic liberals - the large players always contribute heavily to major parties and their rewards for doing so are always not obvious to the population. There is no difference between the lobby of large corporates and union lobbyists, each pushes for their own agenda and many times without thought for the public. Its time for a revolution, we can start by hanging the bankers, financial advisers, government lobbyists, and lets not forget the lawyers. It should be fun, who's with me  :)

You're right about Labor of course, they're now the Liberals or Tory lite. But as an Anarchist I do not want your leadership or your revolution with concomitant bodies  :-)

edB wrote on Dec 7^th, 2011 at 9:00pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Dec 7th, 2011 at 8:05pm: You're barking up the wrong tree dood!  :o Go whip a slave !!  :D :D :D Just as i thought - a keyboard puncher.  Why don't you grow up a little - slave whipping - bugger that i'd be selling their body parts.

Liberal crack smokers get so hardcore  ;) ;) !

edB wrote on Dec 8^th, 2011 at 12:14am:

Grey wrote on Dec 7th, 2011 at 9:24pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 27th, 2011 at 3:26pm: Quote: ..........we simply believe in individual freedom and free enterprise......... which is where the Libs and the ALP are fundamentally different No you don't and it's where the Libs and the ALP are fundamentally the same. Your both gangs out to control in your own ways. Where you are different lies in your flag. The Labor party doesn't operate under a false flag. If you want to be Tories at least have the decency to call yourselves that, or fascist, whatever, certainly not Liberal. Seriously - what flag does Labor fly under. What would you suggest to be the ideal ideology for a party. Both major parties have major issues - Australia needs a new third option, yet one which will never get off the ground becasue both major parties would try to stifle it. Small enterprise is the major employer in Australia - they are the true economic liberals - the large players always contribute heavily to major parties and their rewards for doing so are always not obvious to the population. There is no difference between the lobby of large corporates and union lobbyists, each pushes for their own agenda and many times without thought for the public. Its time for a revolution, we can start by hanging the bankers, financial advisers, government lobbyists, and lets not forget the lawyers. It should be fun, who's with me  :)

No ones with you MR SILVERTONGUE!!  :D :D :-*