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Title: Three questions about the Aborigines.
Post by matty on Jul 4^th, 2011 at 9:44pm

1. Didn't they invade this land? Kangaroos were here far longer than they were, and they came here and killed many.

2. How did "we" (meaning white people of today) kill them? I myself wasn't here in 1788.

3. Why do many Aborigines today complain about it when they themselves are part white? They wouldn't be here if it weren't for their own white ancestors.

Title: Re: Three questions about the Aborigines.
Post by philperth2010 on Jul 4^th, 2011 at 10:21pm

matty wrote on Jul 4^th, 2011 at 9:44pm:

C'mon Mods.....debate is one thing but do you really want his sort of crap on these boards???

>:(

Title: Re: Three questions about the Aborigines.
Post by darkhall67 on Jul 4^th, 2011 at 10:36pm

matty wrote on Jul 4^th, 2011 at 9:44pm:

God you are a wanker.

I liked you better when you were mellie.

And I hated her.

Title: Re: Three questions about the Aborigines.
Post by GoddyofOz on Jul 4^th, 2011 at 10:39pm

The Lib diehards on this forum do nothing for their credibility when they post tripe like this. You only display yourself as an arrogant nutter.

Title: Re: Three questions about the Aborigines.
Post by freediver on Jul 5^th, 2011 at 8:53pm

matty wrote on Jul 4^th, 2011 at 9:44pm:

It reminds me of the Irish complaining about the English soldiers raping their mothers, when most of them are half English as a result. Pack of whingers.

Title: Re: Three questions about the Aborigines.
Post by pansi1951 on Jul 6^th, 2011 at 7:32am

Title: Re: Three questions about the Aborigines.
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Jul 6^th, 2011 at 7:43am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 6^th, 2011 at 7:32am:

LOL, that's a killer pansi. ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Three questions about the Aborigines.
Post by nairbe on Jul 6^th, 2011 at 7:51am

matty wrote on Jul 4^th, 2011 at 9:44pm:

I am not sure of your motivations in these questions. Are you genuinely asking because you have been left ignorant due to the failure of our education system or are you simply a bigot?

1. They initially migrated here during the ice age over 40 000 years ago when the Asian land bridge was open, during a time of natural and epic migrations on a planetary scale involving all species at the time. These migrations happened out of survival needs born from the conditions that existed. We of course are only able to call this a scientific theory based in probability from the research from many arms of science but i will go with that. Funny the basics of this were taught to me at high school in the early 80's.

2. This is more complex and is about social responsibility as a community and acceptance of historical responsibility, not blaming you. If we can accept that our ancestors invaded in their ignorance or arrogance depending on your view and did great damage to the history and culture of an ancient peoples of this country, then we might be able to approach the idea of reconciling what we have done. Much has been lost and cannot be recovered but we can at least aspire to reach balance in the relationship. There is still much tension in the Asia region because Japan will not accept the crimes of WW2 so do you deny the genocide of the Tasmanian Aboriginal peoples.

3. Now you really bit off more than you can chew. Generations of peoples that have faced social, economic, health and education disadvantage certainly are in a position where they will see the world very differently to you. Though many may be of mixed blood, the discrimination has been no less because they choose to identify as indigenous. No one says it is simple nor that there are straight answers. You can argue points i have made with ease, but don't deny the problem and shift responsibility because you don't want to know.

Title: Re: Three questions about the Aborigines.
Post by pansi1951 on Jul 6^th, 2011 at 8:42am

<<I am not sure of your motivations in these questions. Are you genuinely asking because you have been left ignorant due to the failure of our education system or are you simply a bigot?>>
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I was going to try to explain what happened, but I think she has her own theory and she'll stick to it whatever. Remember matty......education first, then travel.

Title: Re: Three questions about the Aborigines.
Post by astro_surf on Jul 6^th, 2011 at 9:49am

GoddyofOz wrote on Jul 4^th, 2011 at 10:39pm:

The Lib diehards on this forum do nothing for their credibility when they post tripe like this. You only display yourself as an arrogant nutter.

Sometimes I think its a lefty troll trying to make righties look ad.. The righties would do well to disown whackjobs like this.

Title: Re: Three questions about the Aborigines.
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jul 6^th, 2011 at 9:58am

matty wrote on Jul 4^th, 2011 at 9:44pm:

We won, they lost.

Title: Re: Three questions about the Aborigines.
Post by WESLEY.PIPES on Jul 6^th, 2011 at 10:34am

Perhaps a better question would be why should we care that they were invaded and conquered? It's happened to every other people on earth at 1 time or another. If anything, abos should be grateful they got 40,000 years in peace before the inevitable ocurred.

Title: Re: Three questions about the Aborigines.
Post by culldav on Jul 6^th, 2011 at 11:56am

Is it just me, or does the representation of the word “invaded” might signify massive financial compensation somewhere along the line?

Just remember when the word ‘sorry’ was publically announced, there was a 100% rise in lawsuits against the Commonwealth for compensation in one form or another.

All these law suits seems to be making the Aboriginals & parasite solicitors/Barristers wealthy, and the Australian tax payers poor.

Title: Re: Three questions about the Aborigines.
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Jul 6^th, 2011 at 12:05pm

culldav wrote on Jul 6^th, 2011 at 11:56am:

Aren't we still waiting for more than just one successful case against the Commonwealth though from supposed 'stolen generation' people.
The amount of cases has increased alright, but they can't prove their case to be awarded compensation.

Title: Re: Three questions about the Aborigines.
Post by mozzaok on Jul 6^th, 2011 at 12:13pm

It is truly pathetic to see sad and mixed up people seeking justification for their abhorrent beliefs, and trying to find some way to develop an "intellectual"? argument to support ignorantly racist thinking.

This crap is not suitable for the politics board, so I will move it to "extremism exposed", and leave it there so that people can see just what so many people are unfairly confronted with, from idiotic racists.

Title: Re: Three questions about the Aborigines.
Post by WESLEY.PIPES on Jul 6^th, 2011 at 12:21pm

mozzaok wrote on Jul 6^th, 2011 at 12:13pm:

Can you point out one 'racist' thing, or is this just another example of the auotmaton-like thought processes of the average progressive that sees the word 'aborigine' and immediately assumes theres racism involved?

Actually, don't answer - I already know.

Title: Re: Three questions about the Aborigines.
Post by Soren on Jul 6^th, 2011 at 12:23pm

astro_surf wrote on Jul 6^th, 2011 at 9:49am:

GoddyofOz wrote on Jul 4^th, 2011 at 10:39pm:

The Lib diehards on this forum do nothing for their credibility when they post tripe like this. You only display yourself as an arrogant nutter.

Sometimes I think its a lefty troll trying to make righties look ad.. The righties would do well to disown whackjobs like this.

That's the bitchy, Stalinist, toe-the-line mindset, so you would call for that, naturally.

Lefties want their opponets silenced. Thinking people want their opponents to continue talking. Let wackos be wackos. There's nothing like the light of reason as a disinfectant.

Mozz, I never realised you are a touchy schoolmarm at heart.

Title: Re: Three questions about the Aborigines.
Post by culldav on Jul 6^th, 2011 at 12:35pm

So, I suppose you don’t think with your superior intellect that there “are” NO Aboriginals out there in the community just waiting for the opportunity to sue the Government over “anything” to make their own private lives financially better? Some of these so-called Aboriginals would be lucky to have teaspoon of pure Aboriginal black blood in their entire bodies. But I suppose that makes no difference to you or your biased views.

No one is, or has ever suggested to my knowledge that what happened to the Aboriginal people was a good thing, but we are talking about something that happened Centuries ago.

I am not apologising to any Aboriginal people about what happened Centuries ago, because my family didn’t come to Australia until 1870.

So why the hell should families like mine and other who arrived here after 1788 be forced to compensate Aboriginals and to apologise to Aboriginals for what the British did to them?

My family never stole any of their bloody kids, so why should we say sorry? Make the Government of the day pay for the compensation, not the tax payers. Too often, Governments make idiotic decisions that effect people in the negative way and then the tax payers are the ones paying the compensation and left to say sorry for something these idiot scum-bag pollies do in our name. Well I say NO MORE!!

At the time, Cook was a British Officer serving in the British Navy, was he not?

Therefore England is financially & emotionally responsibly for the Aboriginal claims, not Australians.

The Aboriginal claims should be against England, not Australia, because Australia was not an independent Nation until the 1900 hundreds

Title: Re: Three questions about the Aborigines.
Post by Karnal on Jul 8^th, 2011 at 3:53pm

These peoples are here for 50000000 years and only invent a stick!