... if you take into account the externalities of blood-for-oil wars it's a no brainer that they are cheap!!!

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William2 wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2011 at 5:14pm:

I was thinking about just the same stuff these days. You describe the way it is. In a symphony orchestra, basically you spend half of your time trying to be a great sound amplifier. It is a great craft, but not such an artistic storytelling job. But anyhow, when you accept the symphony job, you have to provide the (good solid) sound thats needed in the context of the big hall, no artistic excuses possible. The jazz artists focusses on storytelling and let the amps do the sound production job. Or am I missing your point Sonic Soldier is really a nice way to describe it .

Well, then you have the virtuoso combining the two ideas: hence mixed economies!

Well they would be, but then our government subsidises the use of fossil fuels for primary producers and miners. I say "subsidise" in that they don't pay tax or excise on them.

On the other hand, if they actually want to use renewables such as biodiesel,  they are charged excise. It doesn't make sense. The system is stacked in favour of petroleum derived fuels.

If they want to use Ethanol, they are currently charged 2.5 cents in the dollar, rising to 15c by 2015.

muso wrote on Oct 15^th, 2011 at 6:02pm:

Well they would be, but then our government subsidises the use of fossil fuels for primary producers and miners. I say "subsidise" in that they don't pay tax or excise on them. On the other hand, if they actually want to use renewables such as biodiesel,  they are charged excise. It doesn't make sense. The system is stacked in favour of petroleum derived fuels. If they want to use Ethanol, they are currently charged 2.5 cents in the dollar, rising to 15c by 2015.

THAT ALL MEANS IT'S ENTIRELY POSSIBLE TO MAKE THE CHANGES REQUIRED!

IT'S A COMPLEX SYSTEM, THE ECONOMY: PEOPLE NEED TO WORK AND A HASTY ATTACK(ON THE PROBLEM) IS ALMOST NEVER GOOD!

BUT YES, I hear ya!!