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Title: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Andrei.Hicks on Jun 4th, 2011 at 7:20am
On a recent visit to London I was struck by how much faith many British politicians, journalists and political advisers have in Barack Obama being re-elected in 2012.
In the aftermath of the hugely successful Special Forces operation that took out Osama Bin Laden and a modest spike in the polls for the president, the conventional wisdom among political elites in Britain is overwhelmingly that Obama will win another four years in the Oval Office. Add to this a widespread perception of continuing disarray in the Republican race, as well as a State Visit to London that had the chattering classes worshipping at the feet of the US president, and you can easily see why Obama’s prospects look a lot rosier from across the Atlantic. But back in the United States, the reality looks a lot different. Many political leaders in Britain fail to understand the degree to which the American people are deeply unhappy with their president’s poor handling of the economy. Nor have they grasped the epic scale of the defeat suffered by the president in the November mid-terms, and the emphatic rejection by a clear majority of Americans of the Big Government Obama agenda. Just seven months ago, the United States was swept by a conservative revolution that fundamentally transformed the political landscape on Capitol Hill, and gravely weakened the ability of the president to pass legislation. This revolution is not in retreat but gaining ground, led by charismatic figures such as Paul Ryan, the Reaganite chairman of the House Budget Committee, entrusted with reining in out of control government spending. And as a Gallup poll showed, America is unquestionably a conservative country ideologically, but one that is ironically led by the most left-wing president in the nation’s history. Ultimately, the 2012 presidential election will be decided by the state of the economy, and new data released this week makes grim reading for the White House. In fact you cannot watch a US financial news network at the moment, from Bloomberg to CNBC to Fox Business, without a great deal of pessimism about the dire condition of the world’s biggest economy. 66 percent of Americans now worry the federal government will run out of money in the face of towering public debts. To say this has been an extremely bad week for the Obama administration on the economic front would be a serious understatement. As The Wall Street Journal reported on Wednesday, home prices in the United States have sunk to their lowest levels since 2002, falling 4.2 percent in the first quarter of 2011. At the same time, employment growth is stalling, with only 38,000 Americans added to the workforce in May, the smallest increase since September. This compares with 179,000 jobs added in April. There has also been a steep slowdown in the manufacturing sector, and a downturn in the stock market on the back of weak economic news. Bill Clinton’s labour secretary Robert Reich summed up the grim mood in a hard-hitting op-ed in The Financial Times, which took aim at both the administration and Congress: The US economy was supposed to be in bloom by late spring, but it is hardly growing at all. Expectations for second-quarter growth are not much better than the measly 1.8 per cent annualised rate of the first quarter. That is not nearly fast enough to reduce America’s ferociously high level of unemployment… Meanwhile, housing prices continue to fall. They are now 33 per cent below their 2006 peak. That is a bigger drop than recorded in the Great Depression. Homes are the largest single asset of the American middle class, so as housing prices drop many Americans feel poorer. All of this is contributing to a general gloominess. Not surprisingly, consumer confidence is also down. Unsurprisingly, the polls are again looking problematic for the president. The latest Rasmussen Presidential Tracking Poll shows just 25 percent of Americans strongly approving of Obama’s performance, with 36 percent strongly disapproving, for a Presidential Approval Index rating of minus 11 points. In a projected match up between Obama and a Republican opponent, the president now trails by two points according to Rasmussen – 43 to 45. The RealClear Politics poll of polls shows just over a third of Americans (34.5 percent) agreeing that the country is heading in the right direction, with nearly three fifths (56.8 percent) believing it is heading down the wrong track. That negative figure rises to a staggering 66 percent of likely voters in a new Rasmussen survey, including 41 percent of Democrats. There is no feel good factor in America at the moment. But there is a great deal of uncertainty, nervousness, even fear over the future of the world’s only superpower. This is hardly a solid foundation for a presidential victory for the incumbent. Even though we don’t know yet who he will be up against, Barack Obama could well go into 2012 as the underdog rather than the favourite he is frequently portrayed as. On balance we’re likely to see a very close race 17 months from now. But there is also the distinct possibility of an electoral rout of the president if the economy goes further south. “Hope and change” might have played well in 2008, but it is a message that will likely ring hollow in November 2012, with an American public that is deeply disillusioned with the direction Obama is taking the country. http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100090356/why-ba |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by darkhall67 on Jun 4th, 2011 at 11:42am
Nile Gardiner is a British conservative commentator, director of the Margaret Thatcher Center for Freedom at think-tank The Heritage Foundation, and a former aide to British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher. He is a frequent contributor to the London Daily Telegraph newspaper, and the Fox News Network.[1
Gardiner is a supporter of the Transatlantic alliance and the idea that the U.S. and U.K. should "project power and influence across the world".[4] Gardiner supported the invasion of Iraq and the George W. Bush administration,[5][6] and is a critic of President Barack Obama, appealing to Tea Party audiences.[7][8][9][10] Gardiner argues Obama's policies are counter-productive, and that what he describes as Obama's new policy of American "non-exceptionalism" is damaging to America's standing in the world.[11] He is a critic of the European Union[12] and has been critical of "appeasement" as practiced by nations that do not support the War on Terrorism.[13] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nile_GardineriAnd apparently he's a moonie; "Nile Gardiner seems a little sensitive about his past. So much so, that he’s removed any reference of his connection to the Unification Church from his Wikipedia entry. He’s even managed to get the owners of this website to close the page of a book on which he is quoted as having cleaned up anti-Moon graffiti from the campus before Moon’s visit to Yale. No matter. People like Gardiner leave trails on the Internet and he can’t close down all the sites that mention his connection to the Moonies." http://buddyhell.wordpress.com/2011/04/20/touchy-gardiner-tries-to-remove-all-references-to-his-connection-with-the-moonies/ |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by darkhall67 on Jun 4th, 2011 at 11:43am Credibility? ZERO |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by pansi1951 on Jun 4th, 2011 at 12:23pm
Republic or Democrat, Liberal or Labor, woman or budgie smugglers, black or white....it doesn't make any difference, they're all corrupt.
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Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Andrei.Hicks on Jun 4th, 2011 at 1:47pm
The messenger is not the issue here.
The incompetence of this clown in the White House and his inept handling of the economy is what is reviewed here. The polls reflect that as well, the average American is not thrilled with his performance. I give him credit for killing Bin Laden but not much else. |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Belgarion on Jun 4th, 2011 at 1:59pm
A very large number of people voted for Obama for no other reason than because he was black. I recall interviews among black voters at the time who really believed that Obamas election would be some magic cure for all their ills. Now that the realisation that Obama is no better or worse than any other politician has set in these people feel betrayed. However unreasonable that sense of betrayal is, it will have a huge effect next election.
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Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Cliff Richard on Jun 4th, 2011 at 2:00pm
i miss coral sea. nobody could deliver posts with the sinister glamour that he could. andrei hicks is just a little boy with uninteresting and uninformed warble in comparison to him.
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Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Cliff Richard on Jun 4th, 2011 at 2:07pm Belgarion wrote on Jun 4th, 2011 at 1:59pm:
the white vote still went to mccain as far as i know, and he was a horrible candidate with a horrible choice of vice president succeeding one of the worst and least successful presidents in history. blacks bloc voted obama because they are blacks and blacks are tribal and will never ever support the side that they perceive isn't (as) good for black people, and also because obama was black. obama is probably better than mccain would have been in all honesty. audacious epigone has created some electoral maps showing what happens when you disenfranchise certain components of the american electorate to see what outcome the 2008 election would have had. http://anepigone.blogspot.com/2009/11/2008-presidential-election-electoral.html |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by buzzanddidj on Jun 8th, 2011 at 1:38am
The AUTHOR, Nile Gardiner, is a British conservative commentator, director of the Margaret Thatcher Center for Freedom at think-tank The Heritage Foundation, and a former aide to British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher. He is a frequent contributor to the London Daily Telegraph newspaper, and the Fox News Network.
Any WONDER Andrei's creaming his pants |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by WESLEY.PIPES on Jun 8th, 2011 at 10:30am
You would hope that with a term under his belt, this time around he might be judged on his merits (or lack thereof) rather than the colour of his skin.
However, if the media are still so enraptured with him as they were last election, he really cannot lose. |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by adelcrow on Jun 13th, 2011 at 6:49pm
I hope and pray that Sarah Palin gets to be the next President of the USA..how fu#&ing hilarious would that be!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Prevailing on Jun 13th, 2011 at 10:28pm
Whites make up no more than the top three percent of the richest and most privilaged Americans, British, Australians and Canadians - no more than that. I am of Welsh ancestry and there is no way we or the Irish have any racial, class or kin relations with Whites - they are scum. 8-)
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Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Cliff Richard on Jun 13th, 2011 at 10:31pm
LMAO
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Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Prevailing on Jun 13th, 2011 at 10:43pm
Here is the racism with which those who consider themselves the true "White Aryan race" the privilaged aristocracy consider the rest of us...no white English, Welsh, Scots, Irish, Aussies, Americans, Canadians ect...
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You see if your skin is not fair enough, your hair too dark, your nose not strait enough, you dont conform to their physical athsthetics - they simply do not accept you as a part of their class their race. Never get taken in by these Nazi scumbags who wage perpetual class/race war against their fellow citizens they consider inferior. 8-) 8-) 8-) |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Cliff Richard on Jun 13th, 2011 at 10:44pm
consider a career in comedy you fat c_nt
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Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Prevailing on Jun 13th, 2011 at 10:46pm
bugger off you Nazi scumbag :)
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Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Cliff Richard on Jun 13th, 2011 at 10:47pm
fat weaklings like you will be the first to the wall
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Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Prevailing on Jun 13th, 2011 at 10:51pm
Reported for making a death threat, racial and personal abuse - now hit the road you peice of Nazi cowardly filth. 8-)
You like a that huh? :) |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Cliff Richard on Jun 13th, 2011 at 10:55pm
you're forgetting one thing prevailing - i've got diplomatic immunity
http://theneweugenics.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/eugenics_poster1.jpg?w=258&h=400 |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Prevailing on Jun 13th, 2011 at 10:58pm
It dont matter Nazi - I took a screanshot of the death threat which I am sending to your ISP ;D ;D ;D
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Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Cliff Richard on Jun 13th, 2011 at 10:59pm
i am my ISP
so good luck with that |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Cliff Richard on Jun 13th, 2011 at 11:00pm |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Prevailing on Jun 13th, 2011 at 11:04pm |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Cliff Richard on Jun 13th, 2011 at 11:07pm |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Prevailing on Jun 13th, 2011 at 11:11pm Cliff Richard wrote on Jun 13th, 2011 at 11:07pm: :o |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Prevailing on Jun 13th, 2011 at 11:14pm |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Cliff Richard on Jun 13th, 2011 at 11:14pm |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Cliff Richard on Jun 13th, 2011 at 11:15pm |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Cliff Richard on Jun 13th, 2011 at 11:17pm |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Prevailing on Jun 13th, 2011 at 11:18pm |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Cliff Richard on Jun 13th, 2011 at 11:20pm |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Prevailing on Jun 13th, 2011 at 11:21pm |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by dsmithy70 on Jun 13th, 2011 at 11:22pm
Having fun stirring the insane Cliff??
;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Prevailing on Jun 13th, 2011 at 11:24pm |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Cliff Richard on Jun 13th, 2011 at 11:24pm Dsmithy70 wrote on Jun 13th, 2011 at 11:22pm:
what's wrong with this guy, honestly? |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Prevailing on Jun 13th, 2011 at 11:27pm |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by dsmithy70 on Jun 13th, 2011 at 11:28pm
Don't know but the picture wars are fun :D
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Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Prevailing on Jun 13th, 2011 at 11:30pm |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Cliff Richard on Jun 13th, 2011 at 11:31pm |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Prevailing on Jun 13th, 2011 at 11:32pm |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Prevailing on Jun 13th, 2011 at 11:35pm |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Cliff Richard on Jun 13th, 2011 at 11:42pm |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Prevailing on Jun 13th, 2011 at 11:43pm |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Prevailing on Jun 13th, 2011 at 11:46pm |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Prevailing on Jun 13th, 2011 at 11:48pm |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Karnal on Jun 14th, 2011 at 10:20am
Hey - what happened to Eugenics Quarterly after 1968, Cliffy?
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Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Cliff Richard on Jun 14th, 2011 at 1:39pm
it became social biology in 1969
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Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Prevailing on Jun 14th, 2011 at 1:52pm |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Prevailing on Jun 14th, 2011 at 1:55pm |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Cliff Richard on Jun 14th, 2011 at 1:59pm Otto Skorzeny: Nazi escape assister they didn't catch this guy |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Prevailing on Jun 14th, 2011 at 2:07pm
Lol - they got all the rest that counted - hunted them to their graves relentlessly no matter how old they got they never stopped hunting the basterds or gave them a moments peace in their lives.
This is the true revenge on Nazis - Never stop pursuing and hunting them never forgive, never forget, never again. 8-) |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Cliff Richard on Jun 14th, 2011 at 2:10pm
victims of world socialism
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Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Cliff Richard on Jun 14th, 2011 at 2:13pm |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Prevailing on Jun 14th, 2011 at 2:18pm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfRuSQR2GQw :o |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Cliff Richard on Jun 14th, 2011 at 2:21pm
i hope you're sterilised you fat loser
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Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Prevailing on Jun 14th, 2011 at 2:26pm Cliff Richard wrote on Jun 14th, 2011 at 2:10pm:
Notice none of these victims are whites like the Nazi socialists wish they were they were all Ukrainian slavs - and therefore inferior, expendable and marked for extermination by whites throughout the 20th century. 8-) |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Prevailing on Jun 14th, 2011 at 2:28pm Cliff Richard wrote on Jun 14th, 2011 at 2:21pm:
Reported again for personal abuse and a reminder to the Mods - this troll has made death threats on this board. 8-) |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Cliff Richard on Jun 14th, 2011 at 2:28pm
lmao
http://www.vdare.com/macdonald/051105_stalin.htm Quote:
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Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Cliff Richard on Jun 14th, 2011 at 2:33pm Prevailing wrote on Jun 14th, 2011 at 2:28pm:
i never made death threats i said i hope your lineage dies, not you |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Prevailing on Jun 14th, 2011 at 2:34pm Cliff Richard wrote on Jun 14th, 2011 at 2:28pm:
White supremacists tried to anihilate the Slavic peoples and anyone who did not conform to their Eugenic asthetics throughout the 20th century and Nazis continue this campaign of Genocide today. 8-) |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Cliff Richard on Jun 14th, 2011 at 2:38pm
oh ok
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Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Prevailing on Jun 14th, 2011 at 2:40pm Cliff Richard wrote on Jun 14th, 2011 at 2:33pm:
No you said I will be the first to the wall and shot - I have the screenshot DH so denial is not an option, that is a death threat. 8-) |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Prevailing on Jun 14th, 2011 at 2:41pm Quote:
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Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Cliff Richard on Jun 14th, 2011 at 2:42pm
yeah not by me
i mean i'm not personally threatening you i'm just telling you how it's going to go down when the strong take over again no more dsp for you |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Cliff Richard on Jun 14th, 2011 at 2:42pm Prevailing wrote on Jun 14th, 2011 at 2:41pm:
stalin was GEORGIAN NOT WHITE OMG SLAV :o |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Prevailing on Jun 14th, 2011 at 2:43pm |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Prevailing on Jun 14th, 2011 at 2:45pm Cliff Richard wrote on Jun 14th, 2011 at 2:42pm:
Funny - Stalin was a white supremacist though - even though the White race is a Myth and does not exist. :) |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Prevailing on Jun 14th, 2011 at 2:47pm |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Cliff Richard on Jun 14th, 2011 at 2:49pm Prevailing wrote on Jun 14th, 2011 at 2:43pm:
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watch out piggy - he might be coming for you |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Prevailing on Jun 14th, 2011 at 2:50pm |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Cliff Richard on Jun 14th, 2011 at 2:53pm
fake germans
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Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Prevailing on Jun 14th, 2011 at 2:56pm |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Cliff Richard on Jun 14th, 2011 at 2:57pm
genuine swedish midsummer!
stick the proposition nation up yer arse fat boy |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Prevailing on Jun 14th, 2011 at 2:57pm |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Cliff Richard on Jun 14th, 2011 at 2:58pm
tip top bakeries
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Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Prevailing on Jun 14th, 2011 at 3:04pm
I see the trends and your kind lost the "Eugenic" decision in WW2, your asthetics are only in their death throes - the world you dream of never was and never will be. :)
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Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Cliff Richard on Jun 14th, 2011 at 3:06pm
TIP TOP BAKERIES
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Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Prevailing on Jun 14th, 2011 at 4:44pm
You fear me Nazi boy. :)
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Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by Prevailing on Jun 14th, 2011 at 4:47pm |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by dsmithy70 on Jun 14th, 2011 at 6:25pm ;) |
Title: Re: 2012 Obama campaign - A bridge too far? Post by dsmithy70 on Jun 14th, 2011 at 11:13pm
Prev's RSVP pic
;D ;D ;D |
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