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Message started by abu_rashid on May 30th, 2011 at 6:16am

Title: NATO terrorist bombings push Karzai to the edge
Post by abu_rashid on May 30th, 2011 at 6:16am
Is Karzai finally going to turn against his child murdering benefactors?


Afghan leader Karzai issues 'last warning' to Nato

The BBC's Quentin Sommerville said villagers brought their dead children to the governor's office shouting: "See they aren't Taliban"

Afghan President Hamid Karzai has forcefully condemned the killing of 14 civilians in the south-west of the country in a suspected Nato air strike.

Mr Karzai said his government had repeatedly asked the US to stop raids which end up killing Afghan civilians and this was his "last warning".

A Nato spokesman said a team had been sent to Helmand province to investigate the attack carried out on Saturday.

Afghan officials say all those killed were women and children.

The strike took place in Nawzad district after a US Marines base came under attack.

The air strike, targeted at insurgents, struck two civilian homes, killing two women and 12 children, reports say.

"The president called this incident a great mistake and the murdering of Afghanistan's children and women, and on behalf of the Afghan people gives his last warning to the US troops and US officials in this regard," his office said.

The White House said it shared Mr Karzai's concerns and took them "very seriously".

A group from Sera Cala village travelled to Helmand's capital, Lashkar Gah, bringing with them the bodies of eight dead children, some as young as two years old, says the BBC's Quentin Sommerville in Kabul.

"See, they aren't Taliban," they chanted as the carried the corpses to local journalists and the governor's mansion.

While insurgents are responsible for most civilian deaths in Afghanistan, the killings of Afghans by foreign soldiers is a source of deepening anger, our correspondent adds.

President Hamid Karzai has criticised Nato for not doing enough to prevent such deaths, especially during "night raids" and has called on the country's ministry of defence to stop what he described as "arbitrary" operations by foreign forces.
Daud funeral

In the country's north, security was extremely tight for the funeral of Gen Mohammad Daud Daud, the police commander for northern Afghanistan who was killed in a suicide bomb attack on the provincial governor's compound in Takhar province on Saturday.
Former Afghan Foreign Minister Abdullah Abdullah (R) sits near the coffin of slain police chief, Gen Mohammed Daud Daud Gen Daud was buried on Sunday after being killed in a suicide bomb attack on Saturday

He was one of at least six people killed in the attack, which was claimed by the Taliban.

The location of the funeral itself was not announced in advance for security reasons.

Shopkeepers closed their doors and hung pictures of the general as he was buried, and mourners waved black flags in his honour, Reuters news agency reports.

The governor of Takhar province, Abdul Jabar Taqwa, dismissed allegations that "rogue" elements were involved in Saturday's attack in Taloqan.

He said intelligence officials knew about the mission and even had the telephone number of the suicide bomber several days before his attack.

"We sadly failed to catch him before he could carry out his mission," the governor, whose face and hand were burnt in the attack, told reporters in Taloqan on Sunday.

Source: BBC

Title: Re: NATO terrorist bombings push Karzai to the edge
Post by Yadda on May 30th, 2011 at 8:29am
ALL SUCH DEATHS OF MOSLEMS, ARE JUSTIFIED, BY ISLAM.


And contemporary ISLAMIC leaders today have confirmed, that it is glorious and welcomed by moslems, when they are killed in Allah's cause...


"We love death. The US loves life. That is the difference between us two."
Osama bin Laden, November 2001



"We're talking about people [moslems] who like to die, the way, you ['unbelievers'] like to live."
Abu Izzadeen - UK cleric, July, 2006



"....the death of those who are killed for the cause of God gives more impetus to the cause, which continues to thrive on their blood."
ISLAMIC scholar, Sayyid Qutb, and one of ISLAM's most influential thinkers.




Moslems who die at the hands of moslems or at the hands of non-moslems, are merely fulfilling Allah's will for them.

THAT, is what ISLAM says.

The Hadith;

"The Prophet said, "Nobody who dies and finds good from Allah (in the Hereafter) would wish to come back to this world even if he were given the whole world and whatever is in it, except the martyr who, on seeing the superiority of martyrdom, would like to come back to the world and get killed again (in Allah's Cause)." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.053

"The Prophet said, "...I would love to be martyred in Allah's Cause and then get resurrected and then get martyred, and then get resurrected again and then get martyred and then get resurrected again and then get martyred."
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.054

"The Prophet said, "Nobody who enters Paradise likes to go back to the world even if he got everything on the earth, except a Mujahid who wishes to return to the world so that he may be martyred ten times because of the dignity he receives (from Allah)." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.072





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"Yea, they sacrificed their sons and their daughters unto devils,
And shed innocent blood, even the blood of their sons and of their daughters, whom they sacrificed unto the idols of Canaan: and the land was polluted with blood.
Thus were they defiled with their own works, and went a whoring with their own inventions."

Psalms 106




Title: Re: NATO terrorist bombings push Karzai to the edge
Post by Karnal on May 30th, 2011 at 2:54pm
Yadda, I have no Bible quote to offer here, but rest assured that your callous, theocratic indifference to the suffering and death of civilians is not a Christian response, and nor is it a Muslim response.

Presumably, you would not offer such a response if your own family was killed, and I can't think of anyone else who would either.

Your zeal appears to have cut you off from empathy with others. This is not spiritual or Christ-like, but the mere celebration of death for the sake of rhetoric alone.

Your brand of text-driven religious ideology appears in many cases to have removed you from life. If this is what you seek, you will find what you seek.

If, instead, you chose to engage and apply the texts you quoted, you would come to understand what they're actually saying. You would know that death is not some concept in a book.

I know you have it in you to write engaging, honest and heartfelt posts that resonate.

I would love to read them.

Title: Re: NATO terrorist bombings push Karzai to the edge
Post by Yadda on May 30th, 2011 at 3:22pm

Karnal wrote on May 30th, 2011 at 2:54pm:
Yadda, I have no Bible quote to offer here, but rest assured that your callous, theocratic indifference to the suffering and death of civilians is not a Christian response, and nor is it a Muslim response.

Presumably, you would not offer such a response if your own family was killed, and I can't think of anyone else who would either.

Your zeal appears to have cut you off from empathy with others. This is not spiritual or Christ-like, but the mere celebration of death for the sake of rhetoric alone.

Your brand of text-driven religious ideology appears in many cases to have removed you from life. If this is what you seek, you will find what you seek.

If, instead, you chose to engage and apply the texts you quoted, you would come to understand what they're actually saying. You would know that death is not some concept in a book.

I know you have it in you to write engaging, honest and heartfelt posts that resonate.

I would love to read them.






Wow!

At last, 'Karnal', 'unmasked'!

The glib-less Karnal.

I never thought that i would see such day, on OzPol.




But, can Karnal be honest too ???



Title: Re: NATO terrorist bombings push Karzai to the edge
Post by Belgarion on May 30th, 2011 at 3:40pm

abu_rashid wrote on May 30th, 2011 at 6:16am:
Is Karzai finally going to turn against his child murdering benefactors?


Afghan leader Karzai issues 'last warning' to Nato

The BBC's Quentin Sommerville said villagers brought their dead children to the governor's office shouting: "See they aren't Taliban"

Afghan President Hamid Karzai has forcefully condemned the killing of 14 civilians in the south-west of the country in a suspected Nato air strike.

Mr Karzai said his government had repeatedly asked the US to stop raids which end up killing Afghan civilians and this was his "last warning".

A Nato spokesman said a team had been sent to Helmand province to investigate the attack carried out on Saturday.

Afghan officials say all those killed were women and children.

The strike took place in Nawzad district after a US Marines base came under attack.

The air strike, targeted at insurgents, struck two civilian homes, killing two women and 12 children, reports say.

"The president called this incident a great mistake and the murdering of Afghanistan's children and women, and on behalf of the Afghan people gives his last warning to the US troops and US officials in this regard," his office said.

The White House said it shared Mr Karzai's concerns and took them "very seriously".

A group from Sera Cala village travelled to Helmand's capital, Lashkar Gah, bringing with them the bodies of eight dead children, some as young as two years old, says the BBC's Quentin Sommerville in Kabul.

"See, they aren't Taliban," they chanted as the carried the corpses to local journalists and the governor's mansion.

While insurgents are responsible for most civilian deaths in Afghanistan, the killings of Afghans by foreign soldiers is a source of deepening anger, our correspondent adds.

President Hamid Karzai has criticised Nato for not doing enough to prevent such deaths, especially during "night raids" and has called on the country's ministry of defence to stop what he described as "arbitrary" operations by foreign forces.
Daud funeral

In the country's north, security was extremely tight for the funeral of Gen Mohammad Daud Daud, the police commander for northern Afghanistan who was killed in a suicide bomb attack on the provincial governor's compound in Takhar province on Saturday.
Former Afghan Foreign Minister Abdullah Abdullah (R) sits near the coffin of slain police chief, Gen Mohammed Daud Daud Gen Daud was buried on Sunday after being killed in a suicide bomb attack on Saturday

He was one of at least six people killed in the attack, which was claimed by the Taliban.

The location of the funeral itself was not announced in advance for security reasons.

Shopkeepers closed their doors and hung pictures of the general as he was buried, and mourners waved black flags in his honour, Reuters news agency reports.

The governor of Takhar province, Abdul Jabar Taqwa, dismissed allegations that "rogue" elements were involved in Saturday's attack in Taloqan.

He said intelligence officials knew about the mission and even had the telephone number of the suicide bomber several days before his attack.

"We sadly failed to catch him before he could carry out his mission," the governor, whose face and hand were burnt in the attack, told reporters in Taloqan on Sunday.

Source: BBC


Says it all really. Civilian deaths are only bad if caused by western forces. Is Karzai delivering the same strongly worded ultimatum to the insurgents?

Title: Re: NATO terrorist bombings push Karzai to the edge
Post by Yadda on May 30th, 2011 at 4:26pm

Karnal wrote on May 30th, 2011 at 2:54pm:
Yadda, I have no Bible quote to offer here, but rest assured that your callous, theocratic indifference to the suffering and death of civilians is not a Christian response, and nor is it a Muslim response.




I am a 'karmic' Christian, because that is what the word of God reveals to me, the form of reality i should expect, in the 'hereafter'.

And i believe it, in it.

Jeremiah 17:10
I the LORD search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings.


I am not faultless, and will not escape the judgement of my God.

But i seek, and hope, for his mercy.





Karnal wrote on May 30th, 2011 at 2:54pm:

Presumably, you would not offer such a response if your own family was killed, and I can't think of anyone else who would either.


Your zeal appears to have cut you off from empathy with others. This is not spiritual or Christ-like, but the mere celebration of death for the sake of rhetoric alone.

Your brand of text-driven religious ideology appears in many cases to have removed you from life. If this is what you seek, you will find what you seek.


If, instead, you chose to engage and apply the texts you quoted, you would come to understand what they're actually saying. You would know that death is not some concept in a book.

I know you have it in you to write engaging, honest and heartfelt posts that resonate.

I would love to read them.



You do not know me.

And you do not know what i have seen in this life.






Title: Re: NATO terrorist bombings push Karzai to the edge
Post by Karnal on May 30th, 2011 at 4:55pm

Yadda wrote on May 30th, 2011 at 4:26pm:
You do not know me.

And you do not know what i have seen in this life.


Of course not. But I've read enough to understand that your reduction of a thread on NATO strikes against Afghani villagers to the despicable evils of Islam is simplistic, ridicuous and callous.

As if victims of American bombing in Vietnam could be blamed for their Buddhism or alledged communism.

As if your quoted speakers - Osama bin Laden and Abu Izzadeen are even Afghani, or were even talking about Afghanistan.

I don't need to know what you have seen in life to examine your argument, which is always the same. I don't blame you for ridiculous, generic posts about the same thing. I blame your posts.

If you had bowel problems, you'd find some way of blaming it on Muslims. However, if you know anything about Karzai, it would be deeply appreciated if you could share it.

Have you heard? Karzai has threatened to join the Taliban.

Now that's news.

Title: Re: NATO terrorist bombings push Karzai to the edge
Post by Cliff Richard on May 30th, 2011 at 5:42pm
U DONT KNOW ME

Title: Re: NATO terrorist bombings push Karzai to the edge
Post by bobbythebat1 on May 30th, 2011 at 7:18pm

Quote:
Mr Karzai said his government had repeatedly asked the US to stop raids which end up killing Afghan civilians and this was his "last warning".


And Karzai wouldn't last 5 minutes in power without the Yanks.


Title: Re: NATO terrorist bombings push Karzai to the edge
Post by chicken_lipsforme on May 31st, 2011 at 7:30am
Can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.
The reality is the terrorists strategy of skulking in homes filled with women and children hoping that the forces of retribution will let them be is a false hope.
It didn't work in Gaza, and it won't work in Afghanistan.
It's a dirty war alright.

Title: Re: NATO terrorist bombings push Karzai to the edge
Post by Karnal on May 31st, 2011 at 9:11am

Cliff Richard wrote on May 30th, 2011 at 5:42pm:
U DONT KNOW ME


Oh, we know you, CR. It's music I've found, 'cause I'm wired for sound. Remember?

Title: Re: NATO terrorist bombings push Karzai to the edge
Post by Karnal on May 31st, 2011 at 9:20am

chicken_lipsforme wrote on May 31st, 2011 at 7:30am:
Can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.


Exactly. And Australia and the US are over in Afghanistan making beautiful omelettes for all the world to eat.

You probably think September 11 was an omelette too. Delicious!

Title: Re: NATO terrorist bombings push Karzai to the edge
Post by Yadda on May 31st, 2011 at 10:23am

Karnal wrote on May 30th, 2011 at 4:55pm:

Yadda wrote on May 30th, 2011 at 4:26pm:
You do not know me.

And you do not know what i have seen in this life.


Of course not. But I've read enough to understand that your reduction of a thread on NATO strikes against Afghani villagers to the despicable evils of Islam is simplistic, ridicuous and callous.

As if victims of American bombing in Vietnam could be blamed for their Buddhism or alledged communism.



Karnal,

Please enlighten us all.......

In what sense, is Buddhism;
The Four Noble Truths
  1. TO LIVE, IS TO SUFFER
  2. Suffering arises from attachment to desires
  3. Suffering ceases when attachment to desire ceases
  4. Freedom from suffering is possible by practicing the Eightfold Path



comparable to ISLAM....

'Unbelievers' are filth, they are the sh!t under your shoes, and they are the allies of SATAN.
So kill them for little, powerless, Allah, and as a reward, i will send you to a bordello in the 'herafter', Allah's paradise, where you can deflower virgins for the rest of eternity. HONEST!


?????

Come on Karnal, tell us all;

In what sense, is Buddhism,
comparable to ISLAM ????






Karnal wrote on May 30th, 2011 at 4:55pm:

If you had bowel problems, you'd find some way of blaming it on Muslims.


I wish!








Karnal wrote on May 30th, 2011 at 4:55pm:

However, if you know anything about Karzai, it would be deeply appreciated if you could share it.

Have you heard? Karzai has threatened to join the Taliban.

Now that's news.




Karzai is just another lying, corrupt, deceitful, moslem creep,
.....who is busy fooling his gullible infidel 'friends'.

What's new ????

He is a moslem.


Google;
taqiyya - lying to unbelievers



Google;
smile to the face "while our hearts curse them"





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Karnal,

You are a person with some intelligence.

But how will you fare, in the 'hereafter', if you continue to pretend that it is so, so, difficult to discern between good, and, evil ???

What will be your ultimate fate Karnal, if you choose to continue to refuse to choose the good ???






Karnal,

I share two Koran verses with you,

"Satan makes them promises, and creates in them false desires; but satan's promises are nothing but deception.
They (his dupes) will have their dwelling in Hell, and from it they will find no way of escape."
Koran 4.120

"Then, on the Day of Judgment,.....Then would they offer submission (with the pretence), "We did no evil (knowingly)." (The angels will reply), "Nay, but verily Allah knoweth all that ye did;"
Koran 16.27, 28




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"Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live:..."
Ezekiel 33:11




Title: Re: NATO terrorist bombings push Karzai to the edge
Post by Yadda on May 31st, 2011 at 10:49am

Yadda wrote on May 31st, 2011 at 10:23am:

'Unbelievers' are filth, they are the sh!t under your shoes, and they are the allies of SATAN.
So kill them for little, powerless, Allah, and as a reward, i will send you to a bordello in the 'herafter', Allah's paradise, where you can deflower virgins for the rest of eternity. HONEST!




Karnal,

Allah is a powerless God.




Karnal,

If Allah is the creator, and if Allah is God, how can men hurt Allah ???


Within ISLAM's 'religious' texts, it is also here [below], recorded how Mohammad 'enlisted' a fellow moslem, to perform an ISLAMIC 'religious' duty....
.....the murder of a critic of ISLAM.

In the following Hadith, is described, how Mohammad himself [the founder and inventor of ISLAM] secures the political assassination of an enemy of Allah, the powerless God.....



"Allah's Apostle said, "Who is willing to kill Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?"....."
http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith/bukhari/059.sbt.html#005.059.369




Karnal,

Please tell me,
How can a man, hurt Allah, if Allah is really God ???




Title: Re: NATO terrorist bombings push Karzai to the edge
Post by Karnal on May 31st, 2011 at 5:36pm
My frien, Karzai is the US-installed and democratikally-elected president of the People's Republik of Afghanistan. He rules by the very hand of Gud.

Men hurt Allah by being mean to His friends. Do not commit blasphemy, my friend, praise Him, praise Him. May you live by the prophet's every word, insh'allah, and let the sun shine on all.

Karzai, by the way, enjoys his omelettes yolk-free. The Doktor has him on a low-cholesterol diet.

"Hey! I ordered egg white!"

"Is powdered egg, Master. Very good. From Amerikan Army - like in M*A*S*H."

"Kabesh! Out of my sight!"

Title: Re: NATO terrorist bombings push Karzai to the edge
Post by Yadda on Jun 1st, 2011 at 7:38am

Karnal wrote on May 31st, 2011 at 5:36pm:
My frien, Karzai is the US-installed and democratikally-elected president of the People's Republik of Afghanistan. He rules by the very hand of Gud.

Men hurt Allah by being mean to His friends. Do not commit blasphemy, my friend, praise Him, praise Him. May you live by the prophet's every word, insh'allah, and let the sun shine on all.

Karzai, by the way, enjoys his omelettes yolk-free. The Doktor has him on a low-cholesterol diet.

"Hey! I ordered egg white!"

"Is powdered egg, Master. Very good. From Amerikan Army - like in M*A*S*H."

"Kabesh! Out of my sight!"




I see that you have 'reverted' Karnal...

...hiding behind your 'veil', once more.


Google;
revert to islam



You must not let anyone see who you really are Karnal.
...that would be an unpardonable sin.


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Proverbs 26:11
As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.






Title: Re: NATO terrorist bombings push Karzai to the edge
Post by Karnal on Jun 1st, 2011 at 12:32pm

Yadda wrote on May 31st, 2011 at 10:49am:
If Allah is the creator, and if Allah is God, how can men hurt Allah ???


It is a nice day in paradise. Allah is looking through the window at the Earth below, accompanied by one of his trusted angels. He is sad.

"Look at these peoples, bombed and blown all over the place. These Amerikans have been at it again. When will they ever learn?"

"They do not learn, Master. The souls are coming in now. They are very sad."

"Make sure they are comforted. We do not want a repeat of that September 11."

"Yes, Master, it will be done. Shall we smite these Amerikans?"

"No, leave them be for now. They shall receive their justice, insh'allah."

On Earth, Karzai gets off the phone to NATO.

"These Amerikans have been at it again! That's it. This time, I am really going to do it!"

"Join Taliban, Master?"

"Kabesh! This time I join Amerika."

"But, Master, you are already with Amerika. You are the US-installed and democratikally-elected president of Afghanistan."

"This I know, but these Amerikans will stop at nothing. Perhaps we need to join forces to kill Taliban and all forces of terror."

"But, Master, these Amerikans make terror. They bomb our people for nothing!"

"Exactly. Angel of Darkness has spoken. We need to make pact with Amerika."

But you have pact already."

"I mean real pact. We should keep Amerikan soldier in Afghanistan. Who knows what these peoples were doing in mountains?"

"Master, they were goathearders! They do nothing!"

"Maybe they make bomb. Maybe they try to kill Amerika."

"Master, this is not possible. Amerika kill the innocent peoples."

"Bah! Who knows who is innocent before God? Angel of Darkness says..."

The Doktor appears at the door.

"Er... Doktor! Come in! Is so happy to se you."

"Salaam Aleikum, Mister President, may God be with you. Forgive me for dropping in without notice. Have you heard?"

"Ah! Is terrible! These goathearders. They hide the terrorist. Is very sad."

"Hide terrorist? Mr President, they were innocent. Amerika bomb them for nothing."

"Kabesh! These Amerikans! Still, Angel of... Er, Amerika... I mean NATO say they..."

"Mr President, who is president of Afghanistan? NATO?"

"Er..."

"Amerika?"

"No... I, er, am officially, well, technically, the..."

"It is you, Mr President. The Afghan peoples elect you to rule over them. It is democracy, Mr President. You are - how to say - Chief of Staff."

"Yes, I..."

"Not Amerika, not NATO, it is you."

"Well, of course, but there are other forces, there are..."

"The peoples need you, Mr President. You look tired. I should give you the booster."

"No, no, is fine. I don't need..."

"Come. I am the Doktor. I give shot."

The Doktor prepares his shot as Karzai's manservant looks out the window. Praise Allah someone is able to take control. The Doktor jabs Karzai sharply in the thigh.

"Kabesh!"

"Excuse me, Mr President. Sometimes the medicine is painful to administer."

Karzai slinks into an armchair, takes off his reading glasses and rubs his eyes. The shot has taken effect.

"Now, Mr President, there is only one solution to the problem, it is so."

"I, er..."

No more Amerika, no more NATO, only one group is worthy of your support. You know who I mean."

"Yes, yes..."

"President Hamed Karzai must join Taliban."

"But I already join. I have card somewhere in the draw."

"Must really join Taliban. There is no other choice."

"No other choice... But I must do business. I must keep Afghanistan going!"

"Yes you must. You are the President. Only way to keep Afghanistan going is to defeat Amerika. We must have justice. We must have order. Allah's will must be restored!"

"I kniow, I know..."

"Also, Taliban is very good for business. Insecurity is best form of security. Is this not so?"

"Yes. There is much order in chaos."

"It is so. Now. I go. Your servant here will assist you. You must sleep, Mr President. Sleep. You are feeling so very tired, is it not?"

"Yes."

"You will join Taliban. We must make order. Global trade is in recession. Amerika must have the investment, true?"

"Yes, Doktor."

"And Afghanistan must get aid, is it not?"

I don't know how we'd live without it."

"This is true, insh'allah. Now you must sleep. Sleep, and let the will of God be done in Afghanistan. Sleep, and be friend with Taliban in your dreams."

Karzai sleeps. The Doktor gives his servant a look and leaves with his black bag.

In paradise, Allah looks down and sees the world turn. He is sad, but knows that justice will be restored, the vast wheel of fate grinding and relentless in its eternal motion.

Today, Amerika kills civilians in Afghanistan. Tomorrow, roadside bombs will kill coalition soldiers. Karzai will give a press conference. Newspapers in the West will sell. Amerikan defence contractors will pitch for new tendors, the aid will continue to flow, and in the mountains, the caravans will continue their trail. Weapons will come in, and opium will go out, the centuries old wheel of fate turning through the lives, deaths and struggles of all.

How can men hurt Allah? By obeying the wheel of their fate. Allah looks down on Karzai sleeping and wonders if he will ever wake up.







Title: Re: NATO terrorist bombings push Karzai to the edge
Post by Karnal on Jun 2nd, 2011 at 5:27pm
Karzai is at the edge, friends. The Doktor has given him a shot. What will happen next to Karzai? What will happen to the peoples of Afghanistan?

Stay reading, friends, and remember, for the most flavoursome cigarette, smoke Camels - now in a special new hard pack. Camel, the GI's favourite smoke, the ships of the desert.

Title: Re: NATO terrorist bombings push Karzai to the edge
Post by Karnal on Jun 3rd, 2011 at 12:32pm
In the mountains west of Kandahar, the Taliban, as usual, are waiting. Mullah Khaksar Akhund, a Taliban agent and friend of Karzai, is drinking goat's milk tea. His satelite phone rings. Akhund, panicking, spills his cup in the dirt.

"Kabesh! This thing is maddening! What to do?"

Hilell, a 19 year old Pakistani youth, takes the phone. He has studied in the West. He has an Advanced Diploma in IT from the Bradford Polytechnic, UK. He is overly qualified for the Taliban.

"Already I tell you this! Why don't you listen? Is so easy - you just need to press button. Look - "

"Give me. You should respect your elders! This?"

"Yes! Already I tell one hundred times!"

"Kabesh!" Akhund grabs the phone and answers. "Ah, it is you, beloved! Salaam Aleikum, my brother Karzai. It is long time!"

Karzai's voice crackles from space. The mountain of Lakshar Gar is only a few hundred kilometers from Kabul as the crow flies, but it is far away by phone, and many weeks by truck, mule and foot through the bombed roads and steep mountain passes.

"Too long, my brother. How is business where you are?"

"Ah! God is good, Hamed, but it is cold at night. I am not used to this living. I think I am city man by nature, insh'allah."

"Ha! I too, brother Khaksar. Still, is good you are doing God's work. We must meet for tea soon. I am so lonely in this place."

"You are fortunate, brother Hamed. Here, I can't get away. And the young - " Akhund glares at Hilell. "Such little respect for their uncles."

Hilell is smoking a filterless Camel. He spits a long streak of saliva into the dust.

"Alas, Khaksar, we must have patience. So much war, so much pain. We must build the New Afghanistan for such as these."

"Kabesh! They are spoilt! They refuse to learn! When the Taliban was..."

"Listen, this I must discuss."

"Allah Uakbar! You want to join the jihad again, brother Hamed?"

Karzai's voice is distant and hollow. "We make jihad in many ways, brother. Anyway, I cannot talk. We must have tea. Can you come to Kabul?"

Akhund brightens at the idea of returning to Kabul. "But of course!" He sees Hilell sullenly digging a hole in the dust with the barrel of his Kalishnikov. He hits him on the back of the head. "Kabesh! Stop being a fool!"

Akhund speaks into the phone. "Sorry, beloved, not you. It is these boys. They are giving me an ulcer already."

"Ah, God is great, Khaksar, he protects the children and fools."

"Ha ha. This is true, insh'allah. You want I should come to Kabul?"

"Yes. Now listen..."

Karzai makes the plans for his friend's return to Kabul. The ex-commerce minister of Afghanistan under the Taliban, Akhund denounced the Taliban and has backed Karzai since 2002 - officially. Unofficially, Akhund is Karzai's man in the Taliban. Still, as little as he knows about commerce, Akhund is no Kalishnikov-slinging Taliban fighter. Akhund is a political player, and he relishes the opportunity of returning to politics, which in Afghanistan means making millions of US dollars and living in a fortress to avoid the attempts on your life.

In the presidential palace, Karzai closes his mobile phone and keeps up his pace on the Treadmaster. Enough is enough. Karzai is going places. Soon, he will avenge the death of his peoples and bring insecurity to Afghanistan again. Once again, the aid dollars will flow and Karzai may even get the bunker the Amerikans have been promising for years.

The Doktor will be pleased with him. Just think: only yesterday, the Angel of Death was telling him to support Amerika. Now, Karzai will pull a coup de'tat and join the Taliban. Ah! Only in Afghanistan. Wait until the Angel of Death hears. The Angel of Death will...

Oh.

What has Karzai done? What will he tell the Angel of Death? How will he cover his tracks? You've really done it this time, Karzai. Finally, they will catch up with you. You can't get out of this. This time, you've landed right in the goat's head soup.

Karzai stops the Treadmaster and claps his hands to summon his servant. He wipes his face with a towel. How can he keep going like this?

In Fort Worth, Texas, Second Warrant Officer, Walden Schmidt, marks the satelite capture "pertinent." He will send the call by email to his colonel, who will cross reference the intel with other calls captured in Afghanistan. Such "hard intelligence" in the War On Terror will then be referred to the CIA, who the Army believe, will sit on it and do nothing. If the colonel believes the information is good, they will send a drone in to do business. The CIA station chief in Kabul will then complain to the army about interfering on their patch and start an argument at the next hearing of the senate standing committee.

In the presidential palace, Karzai sweats. In the mountains west of Kandahar, Akhund makes plans for his trek to Kabul. In Fort Worth, Texas, the colonel gives orders for another drone attack. Karzai is right. Afghanistan will soon be insecure again, but it is business as usual.


Title: Re: NATO terrorist bombings push Karzai to the edge
Post by Karnal on Jun 4th, 2011 at 8:41pm
Two hours after dawn, the drone strikes, killing three Taliban and six goatherders. It is a victory for the US Army in Fort Worth, Texas; a surgical strike. In Kabul, the CIA station chief is angry.

"Look, I've already told you - we've got operatives working in those mountains! You need to clear these strikes with us first! I can't begin to tell you the mess this puts me in!"

The Army Intelligence officer is philosophical. "I can understand the position you're in, and I'm glad none of your men were killed, but you've got to understand our side too. We're in a war here. Those folks up there are the bad guys. We've got to be seen to be doing something here."

"Be seen? Jesus Christ - "

"Look, we've just taken out a Taliban stronghold. That's a bodycount of nine. That we know of. You want us to just sit back and take it from these hajis? We're not in the business of telling the enemy when we're gonna kill him. This is war."

"And we're meant to be on the same side."

"We are on the same side, goddamnit. As far as I know, none of your men were in there."

"As far as you know - I haven't heard anything back yet."

"There were no American bodies, son."

"We don't use American bodies."

"Well as far as I can see, that makes it a clean kill. That's nine less hajis that we have to deal with. And that makes it even for the three of ours they took out in that carbomb. I've got an inbox of unanswered congressmen's emails for that one."

"Look, all I'm saying is run it past by us first. I'm not asking for the world here, just - "

"Okay, son, I'll see what I can do. If that's everything..."

The station chief sighs. "Thanks for your time, Colonel..."

Mullah Khaksar Akhund makes his way down the mountain by mule. His offsider, Hilell, is walking next to the mule with a Kalishnikov slung over his shoulder. Hilell is talking about life in the UK.

"There is meat for every meal. Beef. The girls there are very strict..."

"This in England?"

"In Luton, yes. Very religious place. If you don't go to mosque, they come after you."

"You go anywhere else? You see London? Buckingham Palace?"

"Oh, no. One time I want to try fish and chip, but English curry is better. All is hilal."

Akhund hears something. "Keep quiet! You hear?"

"No..."

"Sounds like bomb."

"No bomb here, boss. Is mountain. Nothing here but vulture."

"I'm sure I hear..."

"Come, we go. We must meet truck before dark, then get to Kandahar. Is long way."

The mule stops abruptly and refuses to go any further.

"Kabesh! What is wrong with this thing? Hey - stop! Pull this donkey!"

Hilell pulls the reigns in vain. "I can't pull - he won't move!" The mule's eyes are blank, staring into the distance.

Akhund is perplexed. "What is problem? These mules know the mountains well. Why he doesn't go?"

Hilell stops and lights a Camel. "Maybe he doesn't like the mountains."

"Kabesh! Maybe he hears something."

Akhund and Hilell are trapped on the steep mountain pass, the mule refusing to move. On the other side of the mountain, the drone passes into a cloud. In an office in Fort Worth, Texas, the controller scours the monitor for anything that moves. On a mountain so quiet you can hear the baby eagles rustle in their nests, the drone leaves in deadly silence.

As the sun reaches its zenith in the noon sky, Akhund and Hilell decide to pray. Their president, Karzai, in the nation's capital, will join them, a nation that lives in faith and hope for each new day. Akhund and Hilell have used up one of their lives - and life in a land where life is cheap. Whatever tomorrow holds - life, death, or more of the same, today is here. Today we can live, effendes, for today is all we have in our sites.

Title: Re: NATO terrorist bombings push Karzai to the edge
Post by Karnal on Jun 4th, 2011 at 8:56pm
What will happen next, friends? Will Mullah Khaksar Akhund and Hilell reach Kabul? Will the CIA station chief get his revenge? Will Karzai manage, once and for all, to join the Taliban and make his jihad against Amerika?

Stay reading, friends, and remember, for the cleanest, brightest teeth, brush with Darkie toothpaste.

Title: Re: NATO terrorist bombings push Karzai to the edge
Post by Karnal on Jun 8th, 2011 at 12:15pm
Did you know?

Karzai was knighted by the Queen in 2003. He is an Honorary Knight Grand Cross of the Order of St Michael and St George.

So that's "Sir Hamed" to you, thank you.

Title: Re: NATO terrorist bombings push Karzai to the edge
Post by Cliff Richard on Jun 8th, 2011 at 6:02pm
you read it

you cant UNread it

tune in next time for more chilling tales of karzai

Title: Re: NATO terrorist bombings push Karzai to the edge
Post by Karnal on Jun 9th, 2011 at 2:56pm
After the noon prayer, Karzai rests. Karzai is trying to lose weight, and will not take lunch today. Instead, he takes a small package out of his desk drawer. He unwraps the Persian silk and finds his pipe. He shakes the cloth and a matchbox-sized portion of black tar opium wrapped in cling wrap lands on the table. Allah Uakbar, there is enough left for a couple of days.

Karzai packs the pipe, pushing the opium down with a burnt match. He lights up and draws the blue smoke into his lungs, blood and mind. God is great, there can be no doubting it. God put such things on the earth for men to enjoy. Karzai has always had a libertarian bent.

Karzai feels the smoke entering his body, building up in his stomach with a warm glow and flowing into his arms and legs. Ah, the problems of Afghanistan can wait, insh'allah. Business is coming along and the Taliban will wait. Karzai forgets that he ever worried at all.

As the room fills with the sweet-smelling smoke, a cloud passes over the Presidential Compound. Outside on the parapet, a lone crow calls. To Karzai, it sounds like Allah Uakbar, but the crow speaks a language of his own. Wah wah ah wahk. All who love God shall receive His blessings, insh'allah.

The crow flies off, leaving Karzai alone. As Karzai blows a precious plume of blue smoke across the room, the Angel of Darkness appears.

Karzai drops his pipe.

"Mother, it is you!"

"Yes, my child, I am here once more."

"Blessings, Mother, peace be upon you. You are most welcome here." Karzai makes a toast with the empty teacup on his desk, holding it above his bowed head with both hands. "Offerings to you, Mother, offerings and blessings."

"I do not want your blessings, child. You have been a bad boy."

"Mother! I have been good! I have been working as you say. I have been playing both sides in a masterful two-step shuffle. It is a work of genius, let me tell you, a plan I..."

"You have disobeyed your orders. This is not your plan to make. I also have orders, child, as all do. We must have victory."

"Victory, Mother?"

"An appearance of victory. Amerika must save face. Amerika must have peace with honour. This is the order that must be implimented."

"This, Mother, I can do. Afghanistan is a hall of mirrors. We can make it look any way you like, as long as the image repeats itself forever."

"Nothing is forever, child. The mountains, the vultures, Afghanistan itself, all will turn to dust. It is the wheel of fate, insh'allah."

"Afghanistan has always resisted, Mother. This we can all do."

"Your peoples may do this, but your victories and your failures will come and go like the waters of the Indus. At times you will be swollen and your banks will burst, at others you will be as dry as paper. Your toil shall amount to nothing."

"But our will, Mother, the will of the peoples..."

"Your will is as of dust. It is made of nature herself. Families, tribes, nations, dynasties, all shall melt and join rivers like the Himalayan snow."

Karzai puts his pipe down on the desk. "Then why should I act at all? Why should I do anything?"

"We all have our orders, my child. Our will is not ours. We must act, insh'allah, without thought for fruit. The harvests will come, or they will not come. All is the will of God."

Karzai has his face in his hands. "Then what should I do? I have no will left anymore. I do not know. I know nothing, nothing..."

"This, habibi, is the place for all work to start."

"So what do you want me to do?"

The Angel of Death explains to Karzai what he must do, then covers him with a shawl of sleep. Karzai, as ever, is alone.

In his dream, Karzai sees the New Afghanistan, a place of vast riches. City lights, billboards, airport hotels, vast machines in the desert turning rocks into Amerikan dollars.

When he awakes, his servant is whispering in his ear: "Master... Master... Master..."

"Kabesh! Whatever now? What is it you want?"

"You have a visitor, Master."

"A visitor?"

"It is Mullah Khaksar Akhund. He has come long way from Lakshar Gar."

"Allah Uakbar!" Karzai fans the air with his hand and wraps up his pipe. "Send him in. Bring tea. Hurry hurry!"

"Yes, Master."

Karzai's servant leaves the room. It is Afghanistan. He is not used to hurry. As Karzai slowly awakens, he wonders how he will use Akhund to fulfill the Angel's orders.

As the afternoon sun streams in through the shutters, the sounds of the Kabul traffic can be heard from the streets below. Outside, on the streets, Kabul performs its will. In the villages and towns, harvests come, or don't come. Last Spring's snow flows through the Kabul river into the Indus river system of Central Asia.

The Angel of Darkness is correct. In Afghanistan, as in the entire world, all will flows and merges with the will of God. Karzai has his orders, as all do, but are his orders the will of God or the work of Satan himself?

We shall find out all in time, friends.

Title: Re: NATO terrorist bombings push Karzai to the edge
Post by Karnal on Jun 9th, 2011 at 6:03pm
Yes, friends, keep reading and we shall find out more together. The Angel of Darkness has forgiven Karzai, but what of God Himself?

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