Challenge for our generation
BY DAVID TEATHER (Emeritus Professor worked in universities in Australia, Britain, China and New Zealand)


Many native-born Australians, and those born overseas who migrated to Australia in search of a better life, did not anticipate that our expectations might be prematurely curtailed by population growth, peak oil or climate change. A decade ago, when we celebrated the new millennium, such ideas were hardly on the radar.

Not on our radar, perhaps, but not entirely unexpected. A little thought would have told us that exponential growth in our use of natural resources is bound to end when those resources run out, or if damaging by-products compromise our environment.

In 1972 the Club of Rome's report, The Limits to Growth, warned of just such a scenario, and from 1990 onwards the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change drew attention to the risks of climate change.

Governments and corporations were well aware of these assessments. Some, including the Europeans, took notice. But successive Australian governments, under Hawke, Keating and Howard, took no heed: ''She'll be right''.

In the middle ages, natural catastrophes, plagues and pestilence were acts of God. Now we turn to science to explain the natural world. Scientists continue to unravel the complexities of climate change, and have revealed grave risks. There's no time to lose in responding to what we already know.

Johan Rockstrom and 25 other scientists from around the world have begun to define what they call planetary boundaries, or limits within which humanity can operate safely. Transgressing, or going beyond, one or more of these limits may be damaging or even catastrophic due to the risk of triggering worldwide, abrupt environmental change.

These limits for human activity relate not only to the climate, but also to the acidification of the world's oceans, levels of ozone in the upper atmosphere, the biogeochemical nitrogen and phosphorus cycles, the use of global freshwater, change of land use, loss of biological diversity, chemical pollution, and atmospheric aerosols.

The increasing scale of human activity, which makes it necessary to identify limits beyond which it would be unsafe to go, results from the burgeoning human population (up from three to seven billion since 1960), and the increasing per capita use of natural resources.

Kevin Rudd was spot on when he called climate change ''the greatest moral, economic and environmental challenge of our generation''.


China and the US are the world's largest emitters of greenhouse gases, but China's new Five Year Plan (2011-15) makes ''low carbon development'' a national priority for the first time. China will reduce the carbon intensity of its economy (emissions per unit of output) by 16per cent by 2015.

To our shame, Australia has slipped to 55 out of the 57 countries included in the Index, in front of only Kazakhstan and Saudi Arabia.

Among OECD countries, Australia, Canada and the United States stand out with the largest per capita emissions of greenhouse gases. By contrast, the European Union and Japan emit at only half their rate.

What of Australia? Since ratifying the Kyoto protocol in 2007 and commissioning the Garnaut Report, the Commonwealth Government has achieved little to mitigate climate change.

Many federal parliamentarians seriously underestimate the importance and urgency of climate change, and both Labor and Coalition parties are engulfed by vested interests.

The steps taken and proposed by the Commonwealth Government to mitigate climate change are lamentably inadequate. They bear no relation either to Australia's responsibility for contributing to the problem, or to our capacity to help solve it. We have the scientific, technological, financial and logistical capacity to do far more.

Faced with a problem that appears to be serious but insurmountable, a natural human reaction is to put it to the back of the mind. Many Australians react to climate change like this.

We need to make it very clear to our parliamentarians that we are willing to play our part, and will accept nothing less from them. No spin. No excuses.

Link -
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news/opinion/editorial/general/challenge-for-our-generation/2176888.aspx?storypage=0
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Clearly Climate Change is a Problem & it will become a greater problem, over coming decades!

Part of the problem is that the scope of what is happening is on such on massive scale and the issues involved are so complex, it makes it difficult for many to comprehend, what the future will hold.

Kevin Rudd said,  Climate Change was ''the greatest moral, economic and environmental challenge of our generation''.

He was correct, but then he, the Labor Party, the Liberals & other Politicians consigned Climate Change mitigation to the Politically too hard basket, just like Politicians in most other parts of the world.

As the author of this article said, it is up to us (the Public) to push thru the SPIN & EXCUSES.

It's up to us, to force the Politicians not to follow those vested interests of The Powers That Be, it's up to us to push the Politicians (all of them) to ACT IN OUR BEST LONG TERM INTERESTS.

The reality is, we have fought wars, for much less than is at stake here!

Climate Change occurs every second of the day for the last 4,540,000,000 years - it's nothing new

What's your point

It is unfortunate that politicians are locked in to short term thinking, usually relating to only their next term in office.
Sadly when we do see a political party try and commit to long term projects, they are often attacked for partisan political gain, where an opposition will try and exploit concern over costs for projects that will not show benefits until after they complete their current term.

The adage that we get the politicians we deserve, is especially true when it is pressure from a public who push them to produce immediate results, but complain about ever investing in projects that would benefit future generations.

We need to try and change our thinking to be more pro-active, than reactive.

mozzaok wrote on May 28^th, 2011 at 12:10pm:

It is unfortunate that politicians are locked in to short term thinking, usually relating to only their next term in office. Sadly when we do see a political party try and commit to long term projects, they are often attacked for partisan political gain, where an opposition will try and exploit concern over costs for projects that will not show benefits until after they complete their current term. The adage that we get the politicians we deserve, is especially true when it is pressure from a public who push them to produce immediate results, but complain about ever investing in projects that would benefit future generations. We need to try and change our thinking to be more pro-active, than reactive.

That is correct and it's why I stressed that WE (the public), need to force these issues!

In fact, Climate Change is but one example of where Politicians (from both major party's) have not taken proper actions, which have affected future generations.

Successive governments (from both major party's), since mid last century, also avoided taking proper actions on what would happen when it came time for the Baby Boomer generation to retire and that is now starting to show the folly of their in-action!


Btw, idiots like Maqqa, slr, Mellie continue to show the same short sighted approach, when they refer to the current Climate Change, as the weather changes daily.

Maqqa wrote on May 28^th, 2011 at 12:01pm:

Climate Change occurs every second of the day for the last 4,540,000,000 years - it's nothing new What's your point

That's the weather, you dill!

The weather is what changes daily!
The Climate takes -
Months to change seasons
Years to change, due to some inputs such as the El Nino/La Nina events
Decades to change, due to some events such as the continual build-up of GHG gases
Thousands of years to change, due to some events, such as the period between Ice Ages & the Peak of the interglacial warm period.  


Put simply, for simpletons -
Weather is short term
Climate is weather over the long term

Melting of the Arctic 'will accelerate climate change within 20 years'

An irreversible climate "tipping point" could occur within the next 20 years as a result of the release of huge quantities of organic carbon locked away as frozen plant matter in the vast permafrost region of the Arctic, scientists have found.
http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00610/arctic-graphic_610848a.jpg

Billions of tons of frozen leaves and roots that have lain undisturbed for thousands of years in the permanently frozen ground of the northern hemisphere are thawing out, with potentially catastrophic implications for climate change, the researchers said.

A study into the speed at which the permafrost is melting suggests that the tipping point will occur between 2020 and 2030 and will mark the point at which the Arctic turns from being a net "sink" for carbon dioxide into an overall source that will accelerate global warming, they said.

The study is the first global investigation of what will happen in a warmer world to the huge amounts of frozen plant matter that has remained undegraded in the soil since it was incorporated into the permafrost about 30,000 years ago.

It also found that by 2200 about two-thirds of the Earth's permafrost will have melted, releasing an estimated 190 billion tons of carbon dioxide and methane into the air – about half of all the fossil fuel emissions of greenhouse gases since the start of the industrial revolution.

"Our research shows that the release of carbon from permafrost will result in an irreversible climate tipping point in only 20 years... Once the frozen carbon thaws out and decays, there is no way to put it back into the permafrost," Dr Schaefer said.

The Arctic has experienced some of the greatest climatic changes in the world over recent decades. Summer sea ice has melted back to record minimums, average temperatures have increased dramatically, and scientists have documented significant melting of the underground permafrost, from Alaska to eastern Siberia.

"All our emission reduction strategies are designed to hit a target atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration corresponding to a target climate. If we do not account for carbon released from thawing permafrost, we will overshoot this target concentration and end up with a warmer climate than we want," Dr Schaefer said.

Link -
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/melting-of-the-arctic-will-accelerate-climate-change-within-20-years-2290780.html
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20 years hey, what will our Pollies do?

Nothing, it's outside their election cycle!

mozzaok wrote on May 28^th, 2011 at 12:10pm:

It is unfortunate that politicians are locked in to short term thinking, usually relating to only their next term in office. Sadly when we do see a political party try and commit to long term projects, they are often attacked for partisan political gain, where an opposition will try and exploit concern over costs for projects that will not show benefits until after they complete their current term. The adage that we get the politicians we deserve, is especially true when it is pressure from a public who push them to produce immediate results, but complain about ever investing in projects that would benefit future generations. We need to try and change our thinking to be more pro-active, than reactive.

I'D BE ALLEGING THAT SHORT TERM, AND THEREFORE SHORT SIGHTED, POLITICS CAN ONLY BE SUCCESFUL WITH MASS MEDIA SUPPORT!

WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE US?

perceptions_now wrote on May 28^th, 2011 at 2:49pm:

Maqqa wrote on May 28th, 2011 at 12:01pm: Climate Change occurs every second of the day for the last 4,540,000,000 years - it's nothing new What's your point That's the weather, you dill! The weather is what changes daily! The Climate takes - Months to change seasons Years to change, due to some inputs such as the El Nino/La Nina events Decades to change, due to some events such as the continual build-up of GHG gases Thousands of years to change, due to some events, such as the period between Ice Ages & the Peak of the interglacial warm period.   Put simply, for simpletons - Weather is short term Climate is weather over the long term

NUDGE NUDGE WINK WINK!!!

TONY ABBOTT IS UNDER THE PUMP METHINKS!!! ;D ;D ;D

perceptions_now wrote on May 28^th, 2011 at 2:49pm:

Maqqa wrote on May 28th, 2011 at 12:01pm: Climate Change occurs every second of the day for the last 4,540,000,000 years - it's nothing new What's your point That's the weather, you dill! The weather is what changes daily! The Climate takes - Months to change seasons Years to change, due to some inputs such as the El Nino/La Nina events Decades to change, due to some events such as the continual build-up of GHG gases Thousands of years to change, due to some events, such as the period between Ice Ages & the Peak of the interglacial warm period.   Put simply, for simpletons - Weather is short term Climate is weather over the long term

So to get to the long term, you have to take into account the short term.


Just like any trip begins with the first step!
You don't instantaneously get from A to B!

perceptions_now wrote on May 30^th, 2011 at 4:07pm:

Melting of the Arctic 'will accelerate climate change within 20 years' An irreversible climate "tipping point" could occur within the next 20 years as a result of the release of huge quantities of organic carbon locked away as frozen plant matter in the vast permafrost region of the Arctic, scientists have found. Billions of tons of frozen leaves and roots that have lain undisturbed for thousands of years in the permanently frozen ground of the northern hemisphere are thawing out, with potentially catastrophic implications for climate change, the researchers said. A study into the speed at which the permafrost is melting suggests that the tipping point will occur between 2020 and 2030 and will mark the point at which the Arctic turns from being a net "sink" for carbon dioxide into an overall source that will accelerate global warming, they said. The study is the first global investigation of what will happen in a warmer world to the huge amounts of frozen plant matter that has remained undegraded in the soil since it was incorporated into the permafrost about 30,000 years ago. It also found that by 2200 about two-thirds of the Earth's permafrost will have melted, releasing an estimated 190 billion tons of carbon dioxide and methane into the air – about half of all the fossil fuel emissions of greenhouse gases since the start of the industrial revolution. "Our research shows that the release of carbon from permafrost will result in an irreversible climate tipping point in only 20 years... Once the frozen carbon thaws out and decays, there is no way to put it back into the permafrost," Dr Schaefer said. The Arctic has experienced some of the greatest climatic changes in the world over recent decades. Summer sea ice has melted back to record minimums, average temperatures have increased dramatically, and scientists have documented significant melting of the underground permafrost, from Alaska to eastern Siberia. "All our emission reduction strategies are designed to hit a target atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration corresponding to a target climate. If we do not account for carbon released from thawing permafrost, we will overshoot this target concentration and end up with a warmer climate than we want," Dr Schaefer said. Link - http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/melting-of-the-arctic-will-accelerate-climate-change-within-20-years-2290780.html ====================== 20 years hey, what will our Pollies do? Nothing, it's outside their election cycle!

You do realise that the Antartic has increased in size, and that the Antartic is 2-3 times the size of the Arctic.


And also that previously the global warmists solar models being used led to an increase in the ocean's evaporation and then claimed that global warming was causing the Arctic to increase in size!

But then the global warmists found that the Arctic was actuallly doing exactly the opposite of what the globalwarmists were predicting and claiming, and that the Arctic was decreasing in size.
So then the global warmists changed their model and then started the claim that global warming was causing the Arctic to shrink.

creep wrote on May 30^th, 2011 at 7:00pm:

perceptions_now wrote on May 28th, 2011 at 2:49pm: Maqqa wrote on May 28th, 2011 at 12:01pm: Climate Change occurs every second of the day for the last 4,540,000,000 years - it's nothing new What's your point That's the weather, you dill! The weather is what changes daily! The Climate takes - Months to change seasons Years to change, due to some inputs such as the El Nino/La Nina events Decades to change, due to some events such as the continual build-up of GHG gases Thousands of years to change, due to some events, such as the period between Ice Ages & the Peak of the interglacial warm period.   Put simply, for simpletons - Weather is short term Climate is weather over the long term So to get to the long term, you have to take into account the short term. Just like any trip begins with the first step! You don't instantaneously get from A to B!

Yes, go on....

You are attempting to explain POLITICAL VISION: THIS WILL BE GOLD!!!!

WHERE IS THAT POPCORN EMOTICON WHEN YOU NEED IT? [I'LL BE BACK!]  ;) ;)

;D ;D How amusing, Perceptions decides TO JOIN IN THE SPIRIT OF SOVIET LIKE PROPAGANDA TO HELP SELL FOR THE LABOR PARTY THIS RIDICULOUS CARBON TAX WHICH HAS NO CERTAINTY THAT IT WILL MAKE ANY SORT OF DENT TO THE TEMPERATURES OR ASTRONOMICALLY CHANGE THE CLIMATE.

THERE IS NO CERTAINTY IT WILL WORK NOR THAT WE CAN EVEN MEASURE ANY PROGRESS.

stryder wrote on May 30^th, 2011 at 7:12pm:

;D ;D How amusing, Perceptions decides TO JOIN IN THE SPIRIT OF SOVIET LIKE PROPAGANDA TO HELP SELL FOR THE LABOR PARTY THIS RIDICULOUS CARBON TAX WHICH HAS NO CERTAINTY THAT IT WILL MAKE ANY SORT OF DENT TO THE TEMPERATURES OR ASTRONOMICALLY CHANGE THE CLIMATE. THERE IS NO CERTAINTY IT WILL WORK NOR THAT WE CAN EVEN MEASURE ANY PROGRESS.

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If we cant really measure it, we cant really determine it in the end if ithe idea is true ?, BUT THAT DOESNT STOP THIS AMAZING STUPID LABOR GOVERNMENT FROM USING IT TO EXTRACT A NEW TAX.


REMEMBER DEATHNEEDSABRAIN.

JuLIAR Gilliards AMAZING STUPIDITY IS MAKING TONY ABBOTT LOOKING LIKE RED ROSES AND PEACHES AND THE RECENT LAST POLLS PROVE IT,  ;D

stryder wrote on May 30^th, 2011 at 7:26pm:

If we cant really measure it, we cant really determine it in the end if ithe idea is true ?, BUT THAT DOESNT STOP THIS AMAZING STUPID LABOR GOVERNMENT FROM USING IT TO EXTRACT A NEW TAX. REMEMBER DEATHNEEDSABRAIN. JuLIAR Gilliards AMAZING STUPIDITY IS MAKING TONY ABBOTT LOOKING LIKE RED ROSES AND PEACHES AND THE RECENT LAST POLLS PROVE IT,  ;D

Spot on there stryder.

creep wrote on May 30^th, 2011 at 7:07pm:

perceptions_now wrote on May 30th, 2011 at 4:07pm: Melting of the Arctic 'will accelerate climate change within 20 years' An irreversible climate "tipping point" could occur within the next 20 years as a result of the release of huge quantities of organic carbon locked away as frozen plant matter in the vast permafrost region of the Arctic, scientists have found. Billions of tons of frozen leaves and roots that have lain undisturbed for thousands of years in the permanently frozen ground of the northern hemisphere are thawing out, with potentially catastrophic implications for climate change, the researchers said. A study into the speed at which the permafrost is melting suggests that the tipping point will occur between 2020 and 2030 and will mark the point at which the Arctic turns from being a net "sink" for carbon dioxide into an overall source that will accelerate global warming, they said. The study is the first global investigation of what will happen in a warmer world to the huge amounts of frozen plant matter that has remained undegraded in the soil since it was incorporated into the permafrost about 30,000 years ago. It also found that by 2200 about two-thirds of the Earth's permafrost will have melted, releasing an estimated 190 billion tons of carbon dioxide and methane into the air – about half of all the fossil fuel emissions of greenhouse gases since the start of the industrial revolution. "Our research shows that the release of carbon from permafrost will result in an irreversible climate tipping point in only 20 years... Once the frozen carbon thaws out and decays, there is no way to put it back into the permafrost," Dr Schaefer said. The Arctic has experienced some of the greatest climatic changes in the world over recent decades. Summer sea ice has melted back to record minimums, average temperatures have increased dramatically, and scientists have documented significant melting of the underground permafrost, from Alaska to eastern Siberia. "All our emission reduction strategies are designed to hit a target atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration corresponding to a target climate. If we do not account for carbon released from thawing permafrost, we will overshoot this target concentration and end up with a warmer climate than we want," Dr Schaefer said. Link - http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/melting-of-the-arctic-will-accelerate-climate-change-within-20-years-2290780.html ====================== 20 years hey, what will our Pollies do? Nothing, it's outside their election cycle! You do realise that the Antartic has increased in size, and that the Antartic is 2-3 times the size of the Arctic. And also that previously the global warmists solar models being used led to an increase in the ocean's evaporation and then claimed that global warming was causing the Arctic to increase in size! But then the global warmists found that the Arctic was actuallly doing exactly the opposite of what the globalwarmists were predicting and claiming, and that the Arctic was decreasing in size. So then the global warmists changed their model and then started the claim that global warming was causing the Arctic to shrink.

Ahhhh, the science of AGW, these are the days of our lives.

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Spot on there stryder.

Yes, spot on, but the hardest thing for these leftists and ABBOTT HATERS to digest,  ;D ;D ;D

stryder wrote on May 30^th, 2011 at 7:12pm:

;D ;D How amusing, Perceptions decides TO JOIN IN THE SPIRIT OF SOVIET LIKE PROPAGANDA TO HELP SELL FOR THE LABOR PARTY THIS RIDICULOUS CARBON TAX WHICH HAS NO CERTAINTY THAT IT WILL MAKE ANY SORT OF DENT TO THE TEMPERATURES OR ASTRONOMICALLY CHANGE THE CLIMATE. THERE IS NO CERTAINTY IT WILL WORK NOR THAT WE CAN EVEN MEASURE ANY PROGRESS.

Is there an exam to get into this club of yours?

I've lost count of how many times I've said this, so just look at the following link -
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1306662609/29#29

And, I repeat the same question -
What are the relative costs to humanity, of doing something or doing nothing?

In other words, what are the costs, benefits & losses involved, in being correct &/or incorrect, if we move on my senario's, versus moving on the assumption that there is no problem?


It would also bear repeating the following, earlier post -

The Three Little Pigs

http://www.shol.com/agita/images/Beware.jpg

Once upon a time there were three little pigs and the time came for them to leave home and seek their fortunes.

Before they left, their mother told them " Whatever you do , do it the best that you can because that's the way to get along in the world.

The first little pig built his house out of straw because it was the easiest thing to do.

The second little pig built his house out of sticks. This was a little bit stronger than a straw house.

The third little pig built his house out of bricks.

One night the big bad wolf, who dearly loved to eat fat little piggies, came along and saw the first little pig in his house of straw. He said "Let me in, Let me in, little pig or I'll huff and I'll puff and I'll blow your house in!"

"Not by the hair of my chinny chin chin", said the little pig.

But of course the wolf did blow the house in and ate the first little pig.

The wolf then came to the house of sticks.

"Let me in ,Let me in little pig or I'll huff and I'll puff and I'll blow your house in" "Not by the hair of my chinny chin chin", said the little pig. But the wolf blew that house in too, and ate the second little pig.


The wolf then came to the house of bricks.

" Let me in , let me in" cried the wolf

"Or I'll huff and I'll puff till I blow your house in"

"Not by the hair of my chinny chin chin" said the pigs.

Well, the wolf huffed and puffed but he could not blow down that brick house.

But the wolf was a sly old wolf and he climbed up on the roof to look for a way into the brick house.

http://www.shol.com/agita/images/wolf.gif

The little pig saw the wolf climb up on the roof and lit a roaring fire in the fireplace and placed on it a large kettle of water.

When the wolf finally found the hole in the chimney he crawled down and KERSPLASH right into that kettle of water and that was the end of his troubles with the big bad wolf.

The next day the little pig invited his mother over . She said "You see it is just as I told you. The way to get along in the world is to do things as well as you can." Fortunately for that little pig, he learned that lesson. And he just lived happily ever after!

Link -
http://www.shol.com/agita/pigs.htm
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A few observations -
1) Of course the 3 little piglets, were all Capitalist Pigs, in training?
2) The 2 fat little Capitalist Pigs, who didn't think  far enough ahead, got eaten, by the Big Bad Wolf, also known as C. C Wolf (Climate Change Wolf)
3) The Big Bad Wolf, like any self respecting Crook, will always look for the weakest link!
4) The third little Piggy knew there was someting beyond Capitalism Mk1 and that the wolves would always be knocking at his door.

So, this Piggy took the best advice available, at the time and built in brick (even though it cost a little more), to mitigate against the risks of the Wolf getting into the house and when the wolf went for the chimney, the Piggy went for back up plan 1 and fried that Climate Change Wolf in his own juices!


The moral of the story is, spend a little extra, mitigate against the likely risks, but have a back up plan and you can live happily ever after and avoid the Big Bad Climate Change Wolf!

nah nah nah: THE REAL MORAL OF THE STORY IS I THOUGHT MARKETS WERE MEANT TO BE ROBUST!!!

well, it dovetails with your story then...........

 8-) 8-) 8-)

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Russia, Japan and Canada confirmed at the weekend G8 meeting they would not join a second round of carbon cuts if developing countries are not being required to make their own emissions reductions. The Minerals Council said Australia and the European Union were now the only major developed nations or groups of nations committed to an extension of the protocol after its expiry at the end of next year. “Confirmation of the likely demise of the Kyoto Protocol means that Australia will be introducing a new $11 billion carbon tax on the economy in the absence of a binding global agreement to reduce emissions,” the Minerals Council said in a statement. But Julia Gillard denied Australia was acting ahead of the rest of the world..............

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/julia-gillard-orders-carbon-tax-blitz/story-fn59niix-1226065766444

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The moral of the story is, spend a little extra, mitigate against the likely risks, but have a back up plan and you can live happily ever after and avoid the Big Bad Climate Change Wolf!

LIKELY, LIKELY ?

WHAT ??? ;D

YOU SOUND AS THOUGH YOUR NOT 100%  CERTAIN OF THE WHOLE CLIMATE CHANGE/GLOBAL WARMING ARGUEMENT YOURSELF, PERCEPTIONS

SO YOUR HAPPY TO SEE TAXPAYERS MONEY SUCKED IN THE WIND OVER SOMETHING THAT MAY LIKELY BE TO YOU ???

I never realised how stupid one HAS TO BE have to be to swallow that crap.

stryder wrote on May 30^th, 2011 at 8:41pm:

Quote: The moral of the story is, spend a little extra, mitigate against the likely risks, but have a back up plan and you can live happily ever after and avoid the Big Bad Climate Change Wolf! LIKELY, LIKELY WHAT ??? ;D YOU SOUND AS THOUGH YOUR NOT 100%  CERTAIN OF THE WHOLE CLIMATE CHANGE/GLOBAL WARMING ARGUEMENT YOURSELF, PERCEPTIONS SO YOUR HAPPY TO SEE TAXPAYERS MONEY SUCKED IN THE WIND OVER SOMETHING THAT MAY LIKELY BE TO YOU ??? I never realised how stupid one HAS TO BE have to be to swallow that crap.

lol