It's what you do that counts.
Your actions.


that preferential for you ?

Promising title, but the dribble from the bible does little help.

If we disperse with the religious mumbo-jumbo this has potential to be a very interesting topic indeed. There are simply too many armchair warriors and critics around. Which is really a problem created by the democratic ethos that any fool, no matter how idiotic, can have equal say to the intellectually and physically superior.

There are simply too many armchair warriors and critics around. Which is really a problem created by the democratic ethos that any fool, no matter how idiotic, can have equal say to the intellectually and physically superior.

____________

this is an illusionary representation of the 3rd dimensional reality

[which is in fact illusionary in itself ]

further

we are all equal there are no superiors as it were

this is a reflection upon your understandings and your false

projection and assupmtions of your place in this dimension

with forgiveness and no judgenment upon you beloved

namaste

-:)

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 13^th, 2011 at 9:06am:

Promising title, but the dribble from the bible does little help. If we disperse with the religious mumbo-jumbo this has potential to be a very interesting topic indeed. There are simply too many armchair warriors and critics around. Which is really a problem created by the democratic ethos that any fool, no matter how idiotic, can have equal say to the intellectually and physically superior.

Do I detect support for limiting the rights of those you deem inferior Time?   If so you have such luminaries as Winston Churchill, Frankiln Roosevelt and Charles Darwin on your side.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 13^th, 2011 at 9:06am:

Promising title, but the dribble from the bible does little help. If we disperse with the religious mumbo-jumbo this has potential to be a very interesting topic indeed. There are simply too many armchair warriors and critics around. Which is really a problem created by the democratic ethos that any fool, no matter how idiotic, can have equal say to the intellectually and physically superior.

In this world, the physically superior can impose his will upon the intellectually superior.

In this world, the majority can impose their will upon the minority.

'Democracy' works in the same fashion.

i.e.
The will of the majority holds sway, over, and often suppressing, differing points of view.



Does this mean that the majority, or, the strongest, are always the 'right-est' [i.e. the most 'correct'] ???


e.g.
If 1,000,000 people insisted that the earth is flat, but some 'dissenter' says....

"I believe that the world is shaped like an orange."

...are the, must the, 1,000,000 people be correct ???

Why so ???

Is it because it is obvious to any fool, that the 'collective' views and opinions of the 1,000,000 people are clearly, intellectually superior, to the views and opinions of one or two, or, half a dozen, dissenters ???

Belgarion wrote on May 13^th, 2011 at 10:39am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 13th, 2011 at 9:06am: Promising title, but the dribble from the bible does little help. If we disperse with the religious mumbo-jumbo this has potential to be a very interesting topic indeed. There are simply too many armchair warriors and critics around. Which is really a problem created by the democratic ethos that any fool, no matter how idiotic, can have equal say to the intellectually and physically superior. Do I detect support for limiting the rights of those you deem inferior Time?   If so you have such luminaries as Winston Churchill, Frankiln Roosevelt and Charles Darwin on your side.

The same argument can be inverted. The weak and dumb are limiting the rights of the strong and intelligent. This is done through approaches like "equality for all", "equal oppotunity", "equal outcome", affirmative action programs etc. By trying to make everyone "equal", it merely brings down the intellectually and physically outgoing to the level of the weak and dumb.

Yadda wrote on May 13^th, 2011 at 11:32am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 13th, 2011 at 9:06am: Promising title, but the dribble from the bible does little help. If we disperse with the religious mumbo-jumbo this has potential to be a very interesting topic indeed. There are simply too many armchair warriors and critics around. Which is really a problem created by the democratic ethos that any fool, no matter how idiotic, can have equal say to the intellectually and physically superior. In this world, the physically superior can impose his will upon the intellectually superior. In this world, the majority can impose their will upon the minority. 'Democracy' works in the same fashion. i.e. The will of the majority holds sway, over, and often suppressing, differing points of view. Does this mean that the majority, or, the strongest, are always the 'right-est' [i.e. the most 'correct'] ??? e.g. If 1,000,000 people insisted that the earth is flat, but some 'dissenter' says.... "I believe that the world is shaped like an orange." ...are the, must the, 1,000,000 people be correct ??? Why so ??? Is it because it is obvious to any fool, that the 'collective' views and opinions of the 1,000,000 people are clearly, intellectually superior, to the views and opinions of one or two, or, half a dozen, dissenters ???

I did put intellectually and physically together for a reason. That they are embodied in the one person.

it_is_the_light wrote on May 13^th, 2011 at 10:23am:

There are simply too many armchair warriors and critics around. Which is really a problem created by the democratic ethos that any fool, no matter how idiotic, can have equal say to the intellectually and physically superior. ____________ this is an illusionary representation of the 3rd dimensional reality [which is in fact illusionary in itself ] further we are all equal there are no superiors as it were this is a reflection upon your understandings and your false projection and assupmtions of your place in this dimension with forgiveness and no judgenment upon you beloved namaste -:)

We are all equal, Master. Some are more equal than others.

The types around here are all from a very low ViBrAtIoNaL frequency order. These false projection paradigms need to be forgiven and erased.

Yadda wrote on May 13^th, 2011 at 11:32am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 13th, 2011 at 9:06am: Promising title, but the dribble from the bible does little help. If we disperse with the religious mumbo-jumbo this has potential to be a very interesting topic indeed. There are simply too many armchair warriors and critics around. Which is really a problem created by the democratic ethos that any fool, no matter how idiotic, can have equal say to the intellectually and physically superior. In this world, the physically superior can impose his will upon the intellectually superior. In this world, the majority can impose their will upon the minority. 'Democracy' works in the same fashion. i.e. The will of the majority holds sway, over, and often suppressing, differing points of view. Does this mean that the majority, or, the strongest, are always the 'right-est' [i.e. the most 'correct'] ??? e.g. If 1,000,000 people insisted that the earth is flat, but some 'dissenter' says.... "I believe that the world is shaped like an orange." ...are the, must the, 1,000,000 people be correct ??? Why so ??? Is it because it is obvious to any fool, that the 'collective' views and opinions of the 1,000,000 people are clearly, intellectually superior, to the views and opinions of one or two, or, half a dozen, dissenters ???

Ah, yes, but it isn't the majority who assert their will over the rest of us, it's a very small handful of influencers who hardly anyone knows about.

Population growth and immigration, for example, are pushed by property developers, retailers and people like Heather Riddout from the Business Council.

News Limited, through the Telegraph and Australian actively mobilizes protest against the carbon tax - and most Labor policies, really.

And need we mention the influence of Haliburton on US foreign policy?

Popular opinion does not just happen. A majority needs to be actively massaged, brought together and shaped. It constantly forms, fractures and regroups. Different groups emerge, rise and fall, and it has been this way - before mass communication even came into being.

It's just easier now - but tough too, as people constantly change their values and beliefs about the massagers. If we talked about majority opinion in the Arab world 3 years ago, for example, we'd be talking about something completely different to today.

Same in the US - majority opinion changed radically from 2003 to 2008, despite Fox News and the Pravda-style US majority massage machine.

There is a constant Doris Day/Rock Hudson seduction going on between us and the influencers, and, out of this, a majority emerges.

In this world, the physically superior can impose his will upon the intellectually superior.

______________

within this dimension attached to the linear time perspective and

spacetime continuum

that beloved one whom does think he/she is superior..

and stands over the weak..

this dear one will receive some home truths and cleansing so there

is no superiors

for we all have a turn,as it were being paupers and kings

being strong and infirmed though incarnation and to assist

the individual aspect of soul growth

do any deny this fact?

im interested

namaste

this can be called true  - given presence in the now.
action does speak louder than words

( we presume you postulate two types of people - the thinkers and the do-ers.)

so intellectual superiority ( so-called)   can be , but not necessarily always is, a survival trait.
If the intellect paralyses the body when faced with a charging rampant ..(name your monster) ???.. what good is it?

If the intellect leads to avoidance of conflict  .. that is good.  Non-action.

---

But words don't automatically indicate intellect.  Thats pretty obvious from multitudinous posts. ;D on this Board.

So- thats sort of the opposite of 'the pen is mightier than the sword'.
I'd suggest -  accept no absolutes. :-?

"In this world, the majority can impose their will upon the minority."   Yepp    .
thats known as MOB RULE.

the 'collective' views and opinions of the 1,000,000 people are clearly, intellectually superior, to the views and opinions of one or two, or, half a dozen, dissenters ???  

Don't be silly!! Of course not!!  Tht's just rule by Mob -  (undeniably arising from the power of populist propaganda.)

Ask someone what ETHICS are -  do they know the word???

it_is_the_light wrote on May 14^th, 2011 at 12:21am:

In this world, the physically superior can impose his will upon the intellectually superior. ______________ within this dimension attached to the linear time perspective and spacetime continuum that beloved one whom does think he/she is superior.. and stands over the weak.. this dear one will receive some home truths and cleansing so there is no superiors for we all have a turn,as it were being paupers and kings being strong and infirmed though incarnation and to assist the individual aspect of soul growth do any deny this fact? im interested namaste

I would never deny or waver in the presence of mastery, Light.

Everything you say is correct - and more. The true masters are those who go unseen and unheard. As the Sufi proverb goes, the tree with the most fruit bows the lowest.

True masters never tell you what they know.

I like to believe that it's what you do that counts, rather than what you think.

"I think , therefore I am" , is also a very profound statement, and paradoxical to the above.

There's no getting away  from the fact that personal thoughts can/do influence actions to a certain extent.


Having just watched the movie "Inception" for the first time, it opens up a different realm of thinking for me. (ie: it implants an idea)

A marriage between the dream-world and the real world may often be a necessity.

Telling one what to dream is a non-dream. It is residing in the limbo-state..and this, the storyteller accentuates IMO.

It's not for another to dictate the dream; the dream will behold together with, and also irrespective of outside influences.
It's all about the dream. The movie is all about the dream.
It's the dream that matters.i

Amadd wrote on May 15^th, 2011 at 2:16am:

I like to believe that it's what you do that counts, rather than what you think. "I think , therefore I am" , is also a very profound statement, and paradoxical to the above. There's no getting away  from the fact that personal thoughts can/do influence actions to a certain extent. Having just watched the movie "Inception" for the first time, it opens up a different realm of thinking for me. (ie: it implants an idea) A marriage between the dream-world and the real world may often be a necessity. Telling one what to dream is a non-dream. It is residing in the limbo-state..and this, the storyteller accentuates IMO. It's not for another to dictate the dream; the dream will behold together with, and also irrespective of outside influences. It's all about the dream. The movie is all about the dream. It's the dream that matters.

What we believe [how we think], will always determine how we act [i believe].

And conversely, our actions in this world, must be, a reflection of what our underlying morals and beliefs are.



+++

I haven't seen Inception yet.

True masters never tell you what they know.

_____________

oh really?

i see you beloved master karnal repeating outdated

dogma

this inane concept helps humanity little/naught

why would a master say nothing and help no one?

ask the one selling the snakes oil

this does not effect LIGHT as it does manifest in no secrecy no.,

it is the vessel which does carry LOVE yes

and this is hidden not by a true master

and so it is

you may rewrite your belief system to that which resonates

within you now

does this comfort you beloved one?

namaste

As the Sufi proverb goes, the tree with the most fruit bows the lowest.

__________

i observe all as sacred and divine yes

and regard all as equal

and share the knowledge and wisdom with ease and grace

i do not attempt to embody any out dated dogmas

and regard all as human angels

you may comfort that which you do so please

with forgiveness for jealousies and misinterpretations

namaste

it_is_the_light wrote on May 15^th, 2011 at 7:57pm:

True masters never tell you what they know. _____________ oh really? i see you beloved master karnal repeating outdated dogma this inane concept helps humanity little/naught why would a master say nothing and help no one? ask the one selling the snakes oil this does not effect LIGHT as it does manifest in no secrecy no., it is the vessel which does carry LOVE yes and this is hidden not by a true master and so it is you may rewrite your belief system to that which resonates within you now does this comfort you beloved one? namaste

I see this idea confronts you, Master.

True masters tell you what you NEED to know, not what they know. Ask the Dali Llama.

Do you feel comforted?

i am comforted in every now moment beloved master karnal

i do not worship the dali lama

if you do so this is your freewill

this does not effect unto me beloved brother being

i write what i do so please and empart wisdom upon

the boards as i am want to do

i do not attack another as i observe all as sacred and divine

any other beings interpretation upon what i say do action does

not effect unto/within me

is this comforting unto you dear one?

i am at peace within self yes as the LIGHT within me

doth manifest in every now moment and i do not have to

live up to any mortal demand dogma or doctrine

with so very much LOVE and understanding for those of lessor

comprehension of as much

i am that i am an eternal and immortal being of LIGHT

does this comfort you?

im interested

-:)

namaste

further

i LOVE you

namaste

-:)

Thank you, Master. I love you too.

Those of lessor understanding, however, need to wake up and smell the Light.

Forgiven for their jealousies and ignorance.

They shall reap what they sow.

Quote:

What we believe [how we think], will always determine how we act [i believe]. And conversely, our actions in this world, must be, a reflection of what our underlying morals and beliefs are. +++ I haven't seen Inception yet.

I'd like to hear your take on it Yadda.. if or when you get around to watching it.
There were so many levels to the movie, which could be very introspective to the viewer, or totally discarded.

I thought that it was a really amazing movie (a poem in movie form) in the way it told a story of dreams relating to the real world.
The plot was very engaging, yet it became less significant to require a conclusion as the movie went on, even though it crescendoed dramatically towards the end.
That was an incredible piece of movie making IMO.
I don't even want a conclusion to that movie. All is said within the movie.i

i do not watch hollywood programming and manipulative

phsycotronic meanderings that infuse disinformationalistical

concepts into and within your phsyche

people actually pay to get programmed?

so be it

this willful mind programming does not effect unto within me

beloved ones,

with forgiveness for confusions and misunderstandings about

what is to unfold

namaste

it_is_the_light wrote on May 17^th, 2011 at 1:03pm:

i do not watch hollywood programming and manipulative phsycotronic meanderings that infuse disinformationalistical concepts into and within your phsyche people actually pay to get programmed? so be it

So it would seem, master. Many like to join a cult.

Freewill, you see?

Freewill, you see?

__________

i see you like to repeat my delivered rhetoric

you have great taste

namaste

-:)

it_is_the_light wrote on May 18^th, 2011 at 5:00pm:

Freewill, you see? __________ i see you like to repeat my delivered rhetoric you have great taste namaste -:)

My dear child, we like to speak in the language of those we seek to assist from this higher FrEqUeNcY oscillation. We reflect the understanding of the lower mortals we come to help, in love and Light.

"In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.
But someone will say, “You have faith; I have deeds.”

Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by my deeds."

James 2:17,18

it_is_the_light wrote on May 15^th, 2011 at 7:57pm:

True masters never tell you what they know. _____________ oh really? i see you beloved master karnal repeating outdated dogma this inane concept helps humanity little/naught why would a master say nothing and help no one? ask the one selling the snakes oil this does not effect LIGHT as it does manifest in no secrecy no., it is the vessel which does carry LOVE yes and this is hidden not by a true master and so it is you may rewrite your belief system to that which resonates within you now does this comfort you beloved one? namaste

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it_is_the_light wrote on May 17^th, 2011 at 1:03pm:

i do not watch hollywood programming and manipulative phsycotronic meanderings that infuse disinformationalistical concepts into and within your phsyche people actually pay to get programmed? so be it this willful mind programming does not effect unto within me beloved ones, with forgiveness for confusions and misunderstandings about what is to unfold namaste

Well, you know..it's just a movie.
You can take something out of it, or nothing out of it..it's your choice.

There's no dictating that one must adhere to any ideas or concepts within a movie, you take whatever you like from them.
Sometimes it may be as subtle as a scene containing a raised eyebrow with perfect timing, or a passing glance, which provides some value for the viewer.
Hollywood plays out zillions of stories, religions play out stories, cults play out their own story, politicians play out their own story,  ..you and I are definitely playing out a story too light.
"All the world is a stage, and we are it's actors" for sure.

The difference between you and I light, is that I enjoy the stories of others whilst you are bound to your own story and an idealism that yours is the greatest story ever told. The path of a dictator is fraught with danger.

To dictate to others what is right and what is wrong whilst sitting with a stick firmly inserted in your anus seems a bit hypocritical to me.i

The difference between you and I light, is that I enjoy the stories of others whilst you are bound to your own story and an idealism

_____________

incorrect

you are forgiven for misunderstandings

you have your right to individual interpretation

i do not attack any other no,

if this brings you comfort to do so unto me,

you are forgiven

i am not bound by your interpretation of reality

does this fact comfort you?

so be it

namaste

i do not dictate unto others...

you are forgiven for misrepresentations

namaste

maybe watch another 'program'

and come back to reality when your done?

freewill so be it

namaste beloved one

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