News just breaking the White House has anounced that Osama Bin Laden has been killed in hand to hand fighting in a joint US/Pakistan operation in Pakistan. 8-)

ABC 24 - Now for reactions and comment.

Hundreds gathering - cheering outside the Whitehouse

George W Bush:  Osama Bin Ladens Death is a momentous achievement.

Osama Bin Laden is in paradise, and Allah has given Osama Bin Laden 72 virgins.

Honest.
/sarc off

I wonder how many virgins Osama Bin Laden has deflowered already   ???

I wonder how long it will be till the reprisals start.

Because start they surely will.

One down 25,000 talibs to go. I hope we get them all. Let me say for the record that I was for war against the Talban even before 9/11. The Taliban started their spring offensive today with an exploding 12 year old. Being on the left never meant being weak and giving in to violent fascists. Good news a long time coming, too long, speed it up guys.  

There is a broader corporate conspiracy that needs to be pursued and resisted yet in all of this.  Justice will not be done until all of the enemies of peace and individual liberty have been defeated. 8-)

Yadda wrote on May 2^nd, 2011 at 2:03pm:

Osama Bin Laden is in paradise, and Allah has given Osama Bin Laden 72 virgins. I wonder how many virgins Osama Bin Laden has deflowered already   ???

It may well be that those 72 virgins are male. How would you like to end up with an ugly one like Yessir Arafat?

yeah he had been killed many years ago

Grey wrote on May 2^nd, 2011 at 2:22pm:

One down 25,000 talibs to go. I hope we get them all. Let me say for the record that I was for war against the Talban even before 9/11. The Taliban started their spring offensive today with an exploding 12 year old. Being on the left never meant being weak and giving in to violent fascists. Good news a long time coming, too long, speed it up guys.

gray - good on you.
yes, being left need not preclude anyone from making the tough decisions.

Osama was a creation of our Middle class welfare sector - too many useless people in too many private Jobs funded by the Tax payer looking for something important to do in the world have created these problems and one of the best things we can do as a people is to cut the private sector dead from tax payer funds. 8-)

Yep and who pinned it on the button first? ;)
Betya they've always known where he was ...now that they can't afford to stay anymore.

Quote:

Re: America must declare war Reply #13 - Yesterday at 1:52am      Bring in the Bolivians!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Reckon the USA will fall back from Afghanistan soon too ...due to Economic failings. Then all of Islam will know that America has gone away to recuperate (watch out France!)  and China will know that it is 'the' SuperPower and invade Siberian Russia and I'm gonna watch it all go kaput on Fox!

Remember there is no evidence that anything they say actually happened today, they say the body has been thrown overboard at sea - it all sounds like more corporate middle class fascist crap to me more distractions from their failures and crimes. 8-)

So now USA, moves away.

I'm not huge on conspiracy stuff, but 'where the bugger' is the evidence?
One dodgy photoshop pic confirmed a fake, a body 'at the bottom of the ocean'? Think logical- the worlds most wanted human finally caught and NOT ONE SHRED OF PROOF!!! Think about it.

What this means for the global fascism of the middle class new world order paradigm is interesting.  Do they just feel necessary to offer  up a ;perception of progress or is this a prelude to more madness from the Bourgeois welfare class. 8-)

http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryPage/Print/689415.aspx

Press Trust Of India
Washington, April 25, 2011
First Published: 14:28 IST(25/4/2011)
Last Updated: 14:30 IST(25/4/2011)
'Nuke hellstorm if Laden caught or killed'

Al Qaeda terrorists have threatened to unleash a "nuclear hellstorm" on the West if their leader and world's most wanted terrorist Osama bin Laden is nabbed.

A senior al Qaeda commander has claimed that the terror group has stashed away a nuclear bomb in Europe which will be detonated if bin Laden is ever caught or assassinated, according to new top secret files made public by internet whistleblower WikiLeaks.

The documents are secret details of the background to the capture of each of the 780 people held at or have passed through the Guantanamo Bay detention camp in Cuba, along with their medical condition and the information they have provided during interrogations.

The documents have been released to select European and US news outlets and reveal that the day 9/11 terror killings took place in United States, the core of al Qaeda was concentrated in a single city of Karachi in Pakistan.

The intellectual author of September 11 attacks watched the horrifying scenes of the planes crashing into the twin towers of World Trade Centre beamed live on TV with key al Qaeda commanders at a safe house in Karachi.

While in a nearby hospital, the accused mastermind of the bombing of USS' Cole off Yemen waters was recovering from an tonsillectomy, the alleged organiser of the 2002 Bali bombing was buying lab equipment for a biological weapons programme.

Within a day much of the al Qaeda leadership disappeared back to Afghanistan to plan for a long war, the Washington Post reported quoting the fresh leaks on whereabouts of the international al Qaeda terror brigade.

The cache of classified military documents portray the planning of the 9/11 terror attacks and whereabouts of its plotters including the world's most wanted terrorist Osama Bin Laden and his deputy Ayman al-Zawahiri on that fateful day.

The Guantanamo detainees are assessed "high or medium or low" in terms of their intelligence value and the threat they pose while in detention and the continued threat they might pose if released.

The leaks say that four days after September 11 attacks, bin Laden visited a guest house in Afghanistan's Kanadhar province where he told his gathered Arab fighters to "defend Afghanistan against infidel invaders" and to "fight in the name of Allah".

The intelligence report says after the 9/11 attacks began a peripatetic three weeks for bin Laden and his deputy as they criss-crossed Afghanistan handing out assignments to followers, meetings with top Taliban leadership and delegating control of al Qaeda to the group's 'shura' council, presumably because he feared being captured or killed as US forces closed in.

The leaks also refer to a meeting held close to Afghan capital Kabul's guest house where bin Laden gave instructions to continue operations against Western targets, dispersed his fighters from training camps and send women and children including, some of his wives to flee to Pakistan.

The tapes also refer to a meeting in October 2001 between bin Laden and Taliban leader Jallaudin Haqqani, who continues to lead a deadly insurgency against the US and its allies in Afghanistan.

It was only after dispersing his fighters and handing the reins of his dreaded organisation to 'shura' council that bin Laden and Zawahiri fled to the cave complex in Tora Bora near Jalalabad where he was last seen giving a speech to his close followers on November 25.

The Guantanamo leaks have a trace of bin Laden till the Tora Bora caves and according to US intelligence, the al Qaeda chief is known to have survived intense US air strikes on the caves and escaped the dragnet of American special forces sent to hunt him down.

WikiLeaks said that bin Laden and his deputy Zawahiri separated from Tora Bora, while the latter is supposed to have taken refuge with an Afghan family, little is known about the whereabouts of the world's most wanted man.

According to the new documents, in December al Qaeda top lieutenants gathered at Zarmat, in mountainous regions of Afghanistan between Kabul and Khost, where they began to plan new attacks until they were finally captured.

Among those who met at Zarmat were Khalid Sheikh Mohammad, the self-described mastermind of 9/11 attacks, Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, the alleged planner of the USS Cole attack and Abu Faraj al-Libbi, a key facilitator for bin Laden.

They were addressed by bin Laden at a gathering which was teeming with fighters who were waiting for al Qaeda to return their passports so they could flee across the border to Pakistan.

After the Zarmat conclave, Mohammad and other senior al Qaeda fighters began their return to Karachi.

Gradually, Mohammad and other operatives were picked up by Pakistanis working with CIA and FBI. Ramzai Binalshibh, a key liaison between September 11 hijackers was arrested at a safe house in Karachi on the first anniversary of the attacks.

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corporate media announce hellstorm if osama caught or killed

"Press Trust Of India
Washington, April 25, 2011"

1 week later look what happens

false flag imminent

namaste

It looks to me that the Global Corporate middle Class welfare class might be planning yet another major atrocity and a war. 8-)

HC wrote on May 3^rd, 2011 at 1:50am:

I'm not huge on conspiracy stuff, but 'where the bugger' is the evidence? One dodgy photoshop pic confirmed a fake, a body 'at the bottom of the ocean'? Think logical- the worlds most wanted human finally caught and NOT ONE SHRED OF PROOF!!! Think about it.

Well i did. And what I think is that if it was fake they'd have put a lot more work into convincing me it was real. Furthermore I don't see them locating a faux Bin Laden in a luxury compound in Islamabad.

Grey wrote on May 3^rd, 2011 at 10:52am:

HC wrote on May 3rd, 2011 at 1:50am: I'm not huge on conspiracy stuff, but 'where the bugger' is the evidence? One dodgy photoshop pic confirmed a fake, a body 'at the bottom of the ocean'? Think logical- the worlds most wanted human finally caught and NOT ONE SHRED OF PROOF!!! Think about it. Well i did. And what I think is that if it was fake they'd have put a lot more work into convincing me it was real. Furthermore I don't see them locating a faux Bin Laden in a luxury compound in Islamabad.

I'm sceptical about most things myself but I think its legitimate for a couple of reasons
1 if it were true that Bin liner was already dead years ago, GWB would have pulled this stunt already to pump up his cred
2 It can easily be proven to be fake by Bin Liner coming out with a new video telling us all the yanks are lying.

Prevailing wrote on May 3^rd, 2011 at 8:37am:

It looks to me that the Global Corporate middle Class welfare class might be planning yet another major atrocity and a war. 8-)

Light has been telling us to watch Chicago.
Watch for a briefcase nuke in Chicago within the next 6 months ;)
Iran here we come.

It is time now to demand that the President produce Bin Laden's death certificate.
:P

bin liner... lol. I buy that one skippy...

Soren wrote on May 3^rd, 2011 at 11:31am:

It is time now to demand that the President produce Bin Laden's death certificate. :P

A simple body or credible death photo would suffice - otherwise nothing happened yesterday, its all in your imagination and Bin Laden has been dead for years. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Middle Class Propaganda - how F##### dumb is it>?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_XAPku7SgE :D

They should have moved in next door to Andrei, eh?

i have thought Bin Laden dead for ?yrs.

It was just mighty handy to have this mega-terrorist threat hanging over the heads of the 'people'.  No longer productive!!

Everyone knows about 'doubles'.

The timing of this raid, the media footage, the concerned faces of the President and his staff as they watched it happen real time.. .. ::) :-?.  A Facebook report of Helicopters there at the time says something happened.

What it actually was ?? -  i could suggest several explanations.

Buried at sea??    Extraordinary!! - and I have to say -   unexpected and 'wrong',
- because do the Taliban insurgents, the warriors killed in the field - get this treatment?  ........... in accordance with Muslim funeral requirements and custom??..

Do  the terrorists of Al Qeada get this  burial? within 24 hrs of death? if killed at the hands of the allies???  I doubt it very much.  

So why do this??
An Act that can only be questioned forever more? - except for the converted I suppose.

Mystifying??  Or all too Obvious?? ;)

Geeze the Corporate Borg collective welfare sociopaths just cant keep a strait story - first fake death photos, next the man they killed apparently was not using his wife as a human shield, the woman was not his wife, they were not armed nor were they asked to identify themselves or surrender - they were summarily executed on the spot....

The corporate class are psychos - they cannot even begin to match their delusions with reality - not even close - lie upon lie without blinking an eye or hint of critical analysis by the corporate collective - they just mindlessly mime the corporate line and look like the sick fools and welfare bludgers they are. 8-)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ijF9TNjBOCA/SvRynm1uJqI/AAAAAAAAEt8/0PLEcWhNAYs/s400/Beware_Of_The_Corporate_Media.gif

some one shut these people up, cut them off tax payer funded corporate welfare and make them get real jobs please? 8-) :-?

Prevailing wrote on May 3^rd, 2011 at 8:37am:

It looks to me that the Global Corporate middle Class welfare class might be planning yet another major atrocity and a war. 8-)

I agree. The US is struggling to survive with with their dire economy and what better way to boost it than another war. It's obvious that that the Coalition of the Willing is preparing for an offensive with China - particularly with the recent inclusion of Japan in their military exercises, but what role would Osama's death play other than to stir up even more aggression from the Muslim nations?

<<cant keep a strait story - first fake death photos, next the man they killed apparently was not using his wife as a human shield, the woman was not his wife, they were not armed nor were they asked to identify themselves or surrender - they were summarily executed on the spot....>>
.....................................................................................

All those brilliant minds gathered together (joking) and I'm sure a grade niner could get a more plausible script going.....and not change the script mid-scene.

mantra wrote on May 4^th, 2011 at 6:38am:

Prevailing wrote on May 3rd, 2011 at 8:37am: It looks to me that the Global Corporate middle Class welfare class might be planning yet another major atrocity and a war. 8-) I agree. The US is struggling to survive with with their dire economy and what better way to boost it than another war. It's obvious that that the Coalition of the Willing is preparing for an offensive with China - particularly with the recent inclusion of Japan in their military exercises, but what role would Osama's death play other than to stir up even more aggression from the Muslim nations?

I think they felt a need to bring closure to this chapter, story, charade with a killing and a body so they can move forward to what ever the psychos imagine next - China?  Maybe, it would require some major problem involving North Korea or Taiwan. :( :-?

Osama was apparently killed for our western ways.
He should have been given, on our behalves, a full western funeral complete with Elton John singing "Sandals in the bin"  ;D

A burial at sea, and supposedly in compliance with Islamic rites? I don't buy it.
It has been said all along that Bin Laden wasn't at all in accordance with the Islamic faith hasn't it? Then why the appeasement for the true muslims? They shouldn't care less about him.

The ones that need appeasing are us.  We (well I do) want to see his bullet ridden scone to be sure in my own mind that it is actually him.
I think that we can handle the gruesomeness of any pic. We've seen it all before..in fact, we've had it shoved down our throughts for years upon years.

Likewise, any Islamic extremist who would take particular umbrage at the gruesomeness of a death photo of their hero would only be jealous that they they couldn't have inflincted a similar outcome upon an equal and opposing figurehead. They inflict far more gruesome circumstances every day of the week, even though it isn't reported much in mainstream media these days.

So, are we just little kiddies that can't handle a gruesome death pic of the (supposed) number one enemy of the western world?

I can hear the little kiddies in the back seat asking .."Are we there yet? ..are we there yet?"
Bin Laden is dead, so NOW can we leave that shithole cesspool Afghanistan? He's what we went there for in the first place isn't it?
..Well wasn't it?

The bogus WMD's is why we were in Iraq weren't they? Well weren't they?

Nope...of course not. You gotta be real about why we were there in the first place and why we will still remain after "Mission accomplished".

You must accept that you've been tethered in..."sucked in" in other words.
Now you want to stay and keep fightiing for other causes. Now the real reason for war has become acceptable to you.i

First it was a shootout and then it was he was shot twice "double tapped" was the expression. Then it was once and using his wife as a human shield with both killed. Then it goes to he was unarmed and his wife wasn't used as a shield and shot in the leg. This is all with a couple of dozen heavily armed,elite, well rehearsed military forces personal with state of the art equipment and all the while streaming video back to the USA. They don't show the body and in any case with a headshot it will be probably certain that identification will be at best inconclusive. Then what do they do? They take samples for DNA and dump the body at sea, later this was buried in accordance with muslim tradition at sea. Making it impossible to verify the death idependently.

I doubt very much that they would have killed him with that sort of firepower and planning and gave up the opportunity to question him at great length somewhere quiet and away from any attention or interference, so not Cuba, and most likely kill him at the end of the enquiry. If he is thought dead, without any chance to be questioned, any networks and links will be less likely to go to ground. That would make the most sense.
No doubt some poor sod with a strong resemblance, will, or has been shot in the head, for the greater glory of the USA because they will eventually have to produce photos or some other evidence. But I don't believe for a second it will be Bin Laden at least untill they have finished with him.

Amadd wrote on May 4^th, 2011 at 7:53am:

We (well I do) want to see his bullet ridden scone to be sure in my own mind that it is actually him.

Well, I don't mind if they bump off all the other, nameless monsters who are like him. A single evil heart beats under their numerious grizzled beards, as the poet puts it. Like this one:

http://idisk.me.com/rlmorel/Public/Che.gif

Soren wrote on May 4^th, 2011 at 1:18pm:

Amadd wrote on May 4th, 2011 at 7:53am:  We (well I do) want to see his bullet ridden scone to be sure in my own mind that it is actually him. Well, I don't mind if they bump off all the other, nameless monsters who are like him. A single evil heart beats under their numerious grizzled beards, as the poet puts it. Like this one: http://idisk.me.com/rlmorel/Public/Che.gif

Blood sucking monsters just like you, you are no different to him, middle class welfare parasites who want money for nothing off the tax payer.

;D ;D ;D


The tax paying middle class as the blood sucking exploiter of the ... er... tax paying middle class.


Off with their beards!!! Swivel eyes all 'round!!!

:D :D :D

Where is Mrs Osama or is it Mrs Bin laden?

Correcting the previous version of events, Jay Carney, the White House press secretary, said that "some of the information came in piece by piece and is being reviewed and updated and elaborated on".(LOL)

He then said that two al-Qaeda couriers were killed on the first floor of the main, three-storey building where bin Laden lived. In addition, a woman was killed "in the crossfire" on the ground floor.

When the US Navy SEAL assaulters reached the second floor, a woman, later identified as one of bin Laden's wife, "rushed" a SEAL and was "shot in the leg but not killed". He confirmed that bin Laded was "not armed".

The assault team, with bin Laden's body, then departed by helicopter to the USS Carl Vinson in the northern Arabian Sea.
( What happened to the wife's body that was still alive)
Mr Carney said that the White House was still "making an evaluation" about whether to release "gruesome" photographs of bin Laden's corpse, adding that there were "sensitivities here in terms of the appropriateness".

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Where is the wife who was shot in the leg but not killed? did they bury her at sea with hubby? did they leave her in the mansion to find her own way out? is she still crawling around looking for help? is she in a Pakistani hospital and if so why are there no media reports....knowing what the Pakistani media is like.

If they flew her to the US why haven't they produced her for evidence?

Will we see an Arab woman lying in a casket wearing a burqa....could be anyone lol

Ah! the mystery, where's Agatha Christie when you need her?