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Title: Greens had "lost the plot" Post by Maqqa on Apr 8th, 2011 at 7:03am
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/founding-fathers-turn-on-urban-greens/story-fn59niix-1226035658080
TWO founding fathers of the Greens say the split between the old-school environmentalists and the new generation of ideologically driven urban activists now swelling the parliamentary ranks could destabilise the party and alienate voters. The man who gave up his seat in the Tasmanian parliament 29 years ago to launch Bob Brown's political career, Norm Sanders, said the Greens had "lost the plot" by shifting away from their core business of the environment. And Queenslander Drew Hutton, who co-founded the party in 1992 with Senator Brown, hit out at the "ludicrous" decision by the NSW division of the Greens to thumb its nose at federal policy and back an international trade boycott of Israel in the recent state election campaign. "I just shake my head in wonder at why a state-based party would go into an election pushing out front of a federal issue that the state party has no reason to be concerned with," said Mr Hutton, 64. "Why would you be profiling issues above environmental issues at this particular time? . . . I don't think it helps to alienate significant groups inside the NSW voting public." Mr Sanders, 78, said scathingly that the Greens were now "concerned with everything except the environment". "You hear them going on about the tax system, same-sex marriage, adoption, all these social equity issues, but they don't talk about the environment much," he said. The concerns of two such experienced and respected figures in the green movement will intensify the values debate that was kicked off by the actions of NSW Greens figures Fiona Byrne, a suburban mayor in Sydney who stood unsuccessfully at last month's state election, and senator-elect Lee Rhiannon in backing the campaign for boycotts, divestment and sanctions against Israel over its treatment of the Palestinians. Mr Sanders was elected to the Tasmanian parliament in 1980 and resigned in 1982 to make way for the future senator Brown, giving him his start in politics. Mr Sanders said Senator Hanson-Young, 29, a former campaign manager for human rights group Amnesty International, who challenged Christine Milne for the Greens deputy leadership after the federal election in August, personified the contemporary Greens. "That Sarah Hanson-Young, she's on television and radio all the time, but I've never heard her talking about the environment," Mr Sanders said, speaking from his home near Byron Bay in northern NSW. "All those social issues they're on about, that's what the ALP's for. Even the Liberal Party can handle some of them. The Greens have lost the plot, and who's looking after the environment?" Brisbane-based Mr Hutton is still on the front line of environmental activism, having been arrested recently while protesting against coal-seam mining on the Darling Downs, west of the Queensland capital. He stood unsuccessfully for the Senate three times and is now an organiser for the environment group Friends of the Earth. Mr Hutton said there had always been "tension in the Greens between those who come from a Left background, and those who come from a green background". Describing the furore over the BDS as "mildly destabilising", he said the key role of the Greens was to address environmental issues "in a way that none of the other parties is prepared to do". "I would be the last person to say non-environmental issues aren't important, because for the past 40 years I have been involved in a whole lot of issues - the democratic movement in the Joh Bjelke-Petersen days, Aboriginal issues and so on - so I am not just a pure greenie," Mr Hutton said. "But there is no doubt in my mind that the key issues today, and the reason we formed a green party, was that we've reached a time when if we don't take determined and far-sighted decisions on the environment, then the whole planet is going to be in trouble." But he said the tensions with the "hard Left" of the Greens would subside. "In time, that strong left-wing element will diminish, because the people coming in are wanting us to be in government and they are wanting us to be in policymaking positions," Mr Hutton said. |
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Title: Re: Greens had "lost the plot" Post by Maqqa on Apr 8th, 2011 at 7:11am
Must admit this Greenie has a point
THE GREENS more concerned about gay marriages, Israel and other social issues that the ALP stands for So not only are the Greens losing their way but the ALP have completely lost their way |
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Title: Re: Greens had "lost the plot" Post by salad in on Apr 8th, 2011 at 7:21am
The Greens have been taken prisoner by urban activists. Being an activist and having a poster of trees on your wall does not make you a Green.
Fiona Byrne is symptomatic of a party that has lost direction. Her coreligionists have lost sight of the core beliefs of The Greens: the husbanding of our environment. |
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Title: Re: Greens had "lost the plot" Post by Maqqa on Apr 8th, 2011 at 7:51am salad in wrote on Apr 8th, 2011 at 7:21am:
Wasn't it last year Sarah Hanson-Young crusade for breast feeding in Parliament - that was a HUGE Greens issue wasn't it? Look at the Greens policies - what part of it is actually "Green" |
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Title: Re: Greens had "lost the plot" Post by Joe Blow 69 on Apr 8th, 2011 at 8:29am
This article is spot on, I don't think I've ever heard Sarah Hanson-Young even mention the environment
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Title: Re: Greens had "lost the plot" Post by Sprintcyclist on Apr 8th, 2011 at 9:41am the rudd was "a good govt who lost it's way ", according to the assassain. judas has no ethical way at all. now the greens ahve lost their way !!!!!!!! |
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Title: Re: Greens had "lost the plot" Post by chicken_lipsforme on Apr 8th, 2011 at 9:48am Maqqa wrote on Apr 8th, 2011 at 7:51am:
Maqqa, anything that gets a womans boobs out can't be a bad thing surely? I think your being a bit harsh. :) |
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