has anyone heard that saturn will be another sun?

within 12 odd months this smaller sun will create an equalibrium

perfect sperical syncronicity and have the exact perceived

mass in the sky as moon and current sun/sol?

the earth will traverse in a figure 8 between the 2 suns and a split

will occur...more info to come..research yes good

namaste

it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2011 at 4:27am:

has anyone heard that saturn will be another sun? within 12 odd months this smaller sun will create an equalibrium perfect sperical syncronicity and have the exact perceived mass in the sky as moon and current sun/sol? the earth will traverse in a figure 8 between the 2 suns and a split will occur...more info to come..research yes good namaste

Sorry to spoil your nuerotic party, but Saturn cannot and will never initiate a thermal fusion reaction in its core.

Stellar Physics is a very advanced science with theory validated by a vast experimental and observational data base.

TO even suggest this notion say lot about your lack of knowlegdge in how and why a star's furnace burns. In fact I am not sure as to whether you even know what a star or sun is???

Your carcass remains putridly rotten and yet your soul delivers nothing to the world of the living

Sorry to spoil your nuerotic party, but Saturn cannot and will never initiate a thermal fusion reaction in its core.

____________

with the alignment of major heavenly bodies

which factually happens from time to time,

major frequency transferances of energies transmute very quickly

[linear time construct as puppets and human beings may observe]

metaphysically and therefor in the physical sense giving rise and

metamorphosi to occur and manifest.

to suggest this is impossible is a reflection of what may happen

when you let a puppet tell you what thought/belief system to digest

with forgiveness and no malevolent intent toward your being

yet forgiveness beloved puppet master

namaste

further when this solar system traverses around the galaxy

it does every 26,000 years hit the photon belt,

souls retrieved,

those puppets that wish to be let by the nose through the

strings of hoodwink and intent from said puppet masters may do so

which is their individual divine right/rite

freewill you see?

[can puppets see?]

irrelevent and forgiven

namaste

research the central sun alcione and the puppet

may announce what it is projecting upon the fact

with forgiveness

namaste

Stellar Physics is a very advanced science with theory validated

____________

this is exiting news...do tell~!

namaste

Sorry to spoil your nuerotic party, but Saturn cannot and will never initiate a thermal fusion reaction in its core.

__________

with an intergalactic blast and infusion of neutrons

radiating from the galactic and intergalactic/stellar alignment

this will manifest before you can protest

"its impossible"...huberis and ignorance humanity can do without

with forgiveness

what time is footy on

namaste

has anyone heard that saturn will be another sun?My Godness. Not since 2010: The Year We Make Contact (1984), for God's sake. Though that was Jupiter.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086837/

Foolosophy
Senior Member
is right.

What you suggest, LIGHT, is no less than suggesting Creation occurred in 7 or so days, in that it disregards the laws of physics.

Quote:

with the alignment of major heavenly bodies

nothing happens. Nothing has been reported by scientists or Spirirtists, to happen.

 Nothing but the fanciful DESIRE....

It kills me though LIGHT saidi:

Quote:

when you let a puppet tell you what thought yet forgiveness beloved puppet master

For do you know Foolosophy's Avatar is the evil puppet from THUNDERBIRDS? HahahHA
A CLASSIC CRACK-UP is right there. AMEN.

---

EDIT: Tomorrow at 2012 Oh you did know. Or at least referred to Foolosophy being a puppet because of his Avatar. I think. It seems Lighter is brighter - and more humourous - than I gave credit for. (Even though might not know THUNDERBIRDS.)
 Thought it was a lot of a co-incidence. DOH! DOH!. Call me Homer (the greatest ancient Greek epic poet). :P
... Did you know, Lightman? Don't Lie To Me.  ;D

it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2011 at 6:47pm:

Sorry to spoil your nuerotic party, but Saturn cannot and will never initiate a thermal fusion reaction in its core. __________ with an intergalactic blast and infusion of neutrons radiating from the galactic and intergalactic/stellar alignment this will manifest before you can protest "its impossible"...huberis and ignorance humanity can do without with forgiveness what time is footy on namaste

so you rely on magic to realise your nueropathic delusions?

Ti was said in the dream of Aristarchus that those that fill the ether with spasmodic lies and vortices will have their scrotums lanced with the dualist blade of Hades and dipped in the acid pool of Nimrod

Something to think about before your saturn dream comes crashing down upon your stealthed cranium

einstien had his critics too....

these utterances are possible,

because the fact remains that NOTHING is impossible

i stand within this statement

you may keep your belief systems grounded in limited reality

freewill you see?

namaste

-:)

Typical Mr Light (bulb)
Always spreading lies and deceit based upon ignorance and hatred.
His constant need to provide himself as a 'superior' being is nothing short of pathetic.

Foolosophy wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2011 at 10:55pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 3rd, 2011 at 6:47pm: Sorry to spoil your nuerotic party, but Saturn cannot and will never initiate a thermal fusion reaction in its core. __________ with an intergalactic blast and infusion of neutrons radiating from the galactic and intergalactic/stellar alignment this will manifest before you can protest "its impossible"...huberis and ignorance humanity can do without with forgiveness what time is footy on namaste so you rely on magic to realise your nueropathic delusions?

Not magic, dear one, but Divine ReAlIzAtIoN. Magic is performed by servants of Lucifer. True knowledge comes from the Light.

The phenomenon of which the Light speaks is an internal, not external, manifestation of the universe's intractible mutability. These astronomers and physicists know nothing.

Light has it on reliable information that Saturn will become a new sun. Whether you believe it or not does not matter. You will be forgiven.

Love and freewill is the true matter of the universe. If the Light believes Saturn will become a new sun, so it will come to pass.

it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 4^th, 2011 at 2:21am:

einstien had his critics too.... these utterances are possible, because the fact remains that NOTHING is impossible i stand within this statement you may keep your belief systems grounded in limited reality freewill you see? namaste -:)

So on this basis you ignore common sense and reality?

interesting approach

No evidence required, ignore the violation of basic scientific principles

It seems that you commence with an outcome and then justify its existence based purely on NOTHING at all.

Whats this approach called again? Voodoo? Mythological Praying?

Your responsibility is to look yourself in the mirror and face your souless carcass - SEEK whence you soul has gotten to - SEEK why your eyes are shadowless abysses of discontent and magicry - SEEK whyeth you delude the pure waters of Christ

Christianity sux!

The Light is not religious. He SEEKS the Christ within.

Naysayers should consider the same path. As ye sow, so shall ye reap.

Do you feel comforted?

so you rely on magic to realise your nueropathic delusions?

Ti was said in the dream of Aristarchus that those that fill the ether with spasmodic lies and vortices will have their scrotums lanced with the dualist blade of Hades and dipped in the acid pool of Nimrod

Something to think about before your saturn dream comes crashing down upon your stealthed cranium

________

perspective again look and you shall see..i started this thread with

"has anyone heard" of this theory

i am not making claim however i see logic may point unto

this manifestation,

and what do i receive for opening discussion

the same vitriol enveloped within scrotums being lanced

in deed,no less..

these attacks are forgiven brother and sister beings

i spread LOVE and LIGHT and distribute forgiveness

and for these efforts abused constantly yes

and these are forgiven yes

they simply know not what they do

namaste

He does not seek within.
Its a facade.
He seeks without ...out from the planet and into space towards the stars, blah, blah, blah.
To be superior to everyone else as he and his silly followers 'rise up' and into Heaven like some 'precious' Chosen One. :P
Only a A-Hole would wanna go to Heaven and leave a Hell behind for everyone else.
Precious Special People  :P

To look within,
is to look down deep within the dark cold abyss.
And know that the 'abyss' is looking into you.
Only then will you fully understand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmTno5j0Xy0&feature=relmfu

___________

penguines movie

and admirals bird

namaste

it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 4^th, 2011 at 1:08pm:

so you rely on magic to realise your nueropathic delusions? Ti was said in the dream of Aristarchus that those that fill the ether with spasmodic lies and vortices will have their scrotums lanced with the dualist blade of Hades and dipped in the acid pool of Nimrod Something to think about before your saturn dream comes crashing down upon your stealthed cranium ________ perspective again look and you shall see..i started this thread with "has anyone heard" of this theory i am not making claim however i see logic may point unto this manifestation,

Thanks for telling us about this theory, Light. I can see the logic behind these claims. All that has to happen is for Saturn to mutate at a sub-cellular/energetic level and the sun to be subsumed by dark matter/forces.

This must already be happening as we speak. We only have until 21 December, 2012 and these naysayers shall repent. The Earth shall spin off on another orbit, and the world will divide like a cell. We know that this process is already underway, so your Saturn theory makes perfect sense.

Once people said the Earth was flat. Well, now they'll find out how many dimensions there really are. This is evolution, and all is in the Divine Plan.

Karnal wrote on Apr 4^th, 2011 at 2:27pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 4th, 2011 at 1:08pm: so you rely on magic to realise your nueropathic delusions? Ti was said in the dream of Aristarchus that those that fill the ether with spasmodic lies and vortices will have their scrotums lanced with the dualist blade of Hades and dipped in the acid pool of Nimrod Something to think about before your saturn dream comes crashing down upon your stealthed cranium ________ perspective again look and you shall see..i started this thread with "has anyone heard" of this theory i am not making claim however i see logic may point unto this manifestation, Thanks for telling us about this theory, Light. I can see the logic behind these claims. All that has to happen is for Saturn to mutate at a sub-cellular/energetic level and the sun to be subsumed by dark matter/forces. This must already be happening as we speak. We only have until 21 December, 2012 and these naysayers shall repent. The Earth shall spin off on another orbit, and the world will divide like a cell. We know that this process is already underway, so your Saturn theory makes perfect sense. Once people said the Earth was flat. Well, now they'll find out how many dimensions there really are. This is evolution, and all is in the Divine Plan.

Are you the same dooms day clowns that said the world will end in 1996 or 2006? The Photon belt wasnt it?

You keep changing the goal posts

I wonder how silent you deceptive freaks will become when 2012 arrives and dissapears in the annals of time?

What will be your new apocolyptic date become then?

Thats the innate problem with you clowns - you ignore your nuerotic lies and then move on to the next load of excrement without missing a beat

Foolosophy wrote on Apr 4^th, 2011 at 2:57pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 4th, 2011 at 2:27pm: it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 4th, 2011 at 1:08pm: so you rely on magic to realise your nueropathic delusions? Ti was said in the dream of Aristarchus that those that fill the ether with spasmodic lies and vortices will have their scrotums lanced with the dualist blade of Hades and dipped in the acid pool of Nimrod Something to think about before your saturn dream comes crashing down upon your stealthed cranium ________ perspective again look and you shall see..i started this thread with "has anyone heard" of this theory i am not making claim however i see logic may point unto this manifestation, Thanks for telling us about this theory, Light. I can see the logic behind these claims. All that has to happen is for Saturn to mutate at a sub-cellular/energetic level and the sun to be subsumed by dark matter/forces. This must already be happening as we speak. We only have until 21 December, 2012 and these naysayers shall repent. The Earth shall spin off on another orbit, and the world will divide like a cell. We know that this process is already underway, so your Saturn theory makes perfect sense. Once people said the Earth was flat. Well, now they'll find out how many dimensions there really are. This is evolution, and all is in the Divine Plan. Are you the same dooms day clowns that said the world will end in 1996 or 2006? The Photon belt wasnt it? You keep changing the goal posts I wonder how silent you deceptive freaks will become when 2012 arrives and dissapears in the annals of time? What will be your new apocolyptic date become then? Thats the innate problem with you clowns - you ignore your nuerotic lies and then move on to the next load of excrement without missing a beat

LOL you forgot 2003...the 'last time' Planet Nibiru was due to arrive...

id fools and gizmo

i did not say those predictions before and still

do not

you both misrepresent me again,

forgiven.

the world will not end in 2012..

a split is to take place 31 dec 2011

freewill choice

duality or unity consciousness/one-ness

freewill so be it

tick tock

namaste

-:)

Foolosophy wrote on Apr 4^th, 2011 at 2:57pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 4th, 2011 at 2:27pm: it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 4th, 2011 at 1:08pm: so you rely on magic to realise your nueropathic delusions? Ti was said in the dream of Aristarchus that those that fill the ether with spasmodic lies and vortices will have their scrotums lanced with the dualist blade of Hades and dipped in the acid pool of Nimrod Something to think about before your saturn dream comes crashing down upon your stealthed cranium ________ perspective again look and you shall see..i started this thread with "has anyone heard" of this theory i am not making claim however i see logic may point unto this manifestation, Thanks for telling us about this theory, Light. I can see the logic behind these claims. All that has to happen is for Saturn to mutate at a sub-cellular/energetic level and the sun to be subsumed by dark matter/forces. This must already be happening as we speak. We only have until 21 December, 2012 and these naysayers shall repent. The Earth shall spin off on another orbit, and the world will divide like a cell. We know that this process is already underway, so your Saturn theory makes perfect sense. Once people said the Earth was flat. Well, now they'll find out how many dimensions there really are. This is evolution, and all is in the Divine Plan. Are you the same dooms day clowns that said the world will end in 1996 or 2006? The Photon belt wasnt it? You keep changing the goal posts I wonder how silent you deceptive freaks will become when 2012 arrives and dissapears in the annals of time? What will be your new apocolyptic date become then? Thats the innate problem with you clowns - you ignore your nuerotic lies and then move on to the next load of excrement without missing a beat

The world has ended many times, dear one. It merely reinvents itself. There have been many civilizations on this Mother Earth, yes.

The photon belt ended the previous ViBrAtIoNaL frequency of this, our dear Mother Earth. The Light has all the details of this event.

The world will not end in 2012 - merely manifest that which it has invoked. The current prediction is that it will split like a cell.

You are forgiven.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqbevr2YzXc

This theory reminds me of the more fantastic one from We Are the Nibiriuns (approach of Nibiru or Planet X), where the Earth will enter a black hole [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif] in the centre of our galaxy [smiley=birthdays.gif] as Earth "ascends" or splits  - but not like an elongating banana-spaghetti-mash-liquid.  [smiley=bath.gif]
 It might be quite some time though. Eons. [smiley=rolleyes.gif]
 http://www.nibiruancouncil.com/html/blackholeperspective.html

Superman1 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2011 at 10:04am:

This theory reminds me of the more fantastic one from We Are the Nibiriuns (approach of Nibiru or Planet X), where the Earth will enter a black hole [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif] in the centre of our galaxy [smiley=birthdays.gif] as Earth "ascends" or splits  - but not like an elongating banana-spaghetti-mash-liquid.  [smiley=bath.gif]  It might be quite some time though. Eons. [smiley=rolleyes.gif]  http://www.nibiruancouncil.com/html/blackholeperspective.html

Yes, it makes sense that this is exactly what is happening: we will enter a black hole on 21/12/2012 and the world will stretch to form the dimensions of a human hair.

Will this happen as this dear one predicts, Light?

Bloody hell there must be a sh!t hot crop of dope on the streets at the moment.

Karnal wrote on Apr 5^th, 2011 at 1:03pm:

Superman1 wrote on Apr 5th, 2011 at 10:04am: This theory reminds me of the more fantastic one from We Are the Nibiriuns (approach of Nibiru or Planet X), where the Earth will enter a black hole [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif] in the centre of our galaxy [smiley=birthdays.gif] as Earth "ascends" or splits  - but not like an elongating banana-spaghetti-mash-liquid.  [smiley=bath.gif]  It might be quite some time though. Eons. [smiley=rolleyes.gif]  http://www.nibiruancouncil.com/html/blackholeperspective.html Yes, it makes sense that this is exactly what is happening: we will enter a black hole on 21/12/2012 and the world will stretch to form the dimensions of a human hair. Will this happen as this dear one predicts, Light?

Why the dimensions of human hair?

Are you stating some sort of Quantum Folical Limit? Like the Planck limit?

it seems that the further you dig the more putrid the stench that emanates from your rotitng souless carcass.

And at which point your own salvation cannot be Biblically assured

repent at the feet of Jesus before its too late my son

Heil Hitler!!  [smiley=vrolijk_26.gif]

Zeus Almighty I didn't expect anyone to agree.
Even that site says Earth must become lighter first (as in... invisible is the only way that could remotely work).

 Son, do you even realise how far away Earth is from the centre of the galaxy? And, even if it could suddenly up and move 70,000 times the speed of light to get there by 2012, all of the galaxy must also get sucked in, if Earth does?

This stuff is gold.

 

Foolosophy wrote on Apr 5^th, 2011 at 1:29pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 5th, 2011 at 1:03pm: Superman1 wrote on Apr 5th, 2011 at 10:04am: This theory reminds me of the more fantastic one from We Are the Nibiriuns (approach of Nibiru or Planet X), where the Earth will enter a black hole [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif] in the centre of our galaxy [smiley=birthdays.gif] as Earth "ascends" or splits  - but not like an elongating banana-spaghetti-mash-liquid.  [smiley=bath.gif]  It might be quite some time though. Eons. [smiley=rolleyes.gif]  http://www.nibiruancouncil.com/html/blackholeperspective.html Yes, it makes sense that this is exactly what is happening: we will enter a black hole on 21/12/2012 and the world will stretch to form the dimensions of a human hair. Will this happen as this dear one predicts, Light? Why the dimensions of human hair? Are you stating some sort of Quantum Folical Limit? Like the Planck limit? it seems that the further you dig the more putrid the stench that emanates from your rotitng souless carcass. And at which point your own salvation cannot be Biblically assured repent at the feet of Jesus before its too late my son

Dear one, you seem to have some knowledge of quantum physics, but it is unlikely you are aware of its origins in masonic thinking. Forgiven for your ignorance, yes.

We have repented to Jesus and many other Christed beings. We are not religious, just forgiven. You would do well to do the same before your body stretches like a rack and you cannot take breath anymore.

As prophesised, this will take place next year.

Does this comfort you?

Dsmithy70 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2011 at 1:16pm:

Bloody hell there must be a sh!t hot crop of dope on the streets at the moment.

Dope, no. Love, yes. I'll have you know that there is a hot crop of Light on the streets at the moment.

All is in preparation for the Divine Plan.

I hope you feel comforted.

http://www.news.com.au/technology/nasa-watching-planets-black-hole-death/story-e6frfro0-1226035774623

NASA is studying a surprising cosmic burst at the centre of distant galaxy that has burned for more than a week, longer than astronomers have ever seen before, the US space agency said today.
Calling it "one of the most puzzling cosmic blasts ever observed", NASA said it has mobilised the Hubble Space Telescope along with its Swift satellite and Chandra X-ray Observatory to study the phenomenon.
"More than a week later, high-energy radiation continues to brighten and fade from its location," NASA said.
"Astronomers say they have never seen such a bright, variable, high-energy, long-lasting burst before.
"Usually, gamma-ray bursts mark the destruction of a massive star, and flaring emission from these events never lasts more than a few hours."
The first in a series of explosions was detected by a NASA telescope on March 28 in the constellation Draco.


Read more: http://www.news.com.au/technology/nasa-watching-planets-black-hole-death/story-e6frfro0-1226035774623#ixzz1J165FnTy

DRACO where the group known as reptilians eminate from

i have covered this topic...heres some more


http://scienceray.com/astronomy/apocalypse-soon-supernova-betelgeuse-is-coming/

Its coming and it may reach Earth before 2012. In fact the gamma rays from the Orion star Betelgeuse, when it goes ballistic [Supernova] may hit us any day!
Many people are predicting the end of the Earth when the second brightest star of the Orion Constellation goes Nova. The Internet is being flooded with articles concerning the event is part of the Mayan Calendar 2012 predictions and the end of the world. But what are the facts about this very unusual event located approximately 600 – 800 million light years away from Mother Earth? (The Astronomical Journal –April 2008)
It is also interesting to note that the name of this red star is Betelgeuse, is associated with the “Devil” and evil machinations. Yet, the name Betelgeuse is a corruption of the Arabic word “yad al jauza,” which means the “hand of al-jauza.”. The word “al-jauza” is an ancient Arabic derivative which refers to “Central One,” or a mysterious woman.


Read more: http://scienceray.com/astronomy/apocalypse-soon-supernova-betelgeuse-is-coming/#ixzz1J16K9nbs

this is not the end of the world...

this world will go on yes

however

many shall not pass

namaste

But here are the scientific facts (theories and conjectures based on reason):
One day Betelgeuse will appear as a giant explosion in the sky, which may be 4 times the size of a full moon.
Most scientists believe the star is far enough away from Earth that the explosion blast and various particle rays emitted will not affect us drastically (if at all).
This star is a huge mass of hydrogen gas that is (or did) going through a fusion process that changes the matter into heavier elements.
It is one of the largest stars known in the universe to human astronomy.
On June 9th, 2009 it was presented to The American Astronomical Society that Betelgeuse was shrinking. Calculations from 1993 to the present show a 15% decrease in the stars diameter.
It is a pulsating star, whose brightness changes with the density of its atmosphere: 0.2 – 1.2 brightness magnitude, which makes it one of the 10 brightest stars in our sky.
Betelgeuse is surrounded by many layers of dust and gas that it has already blown off through a very strong stellar wind and surround the star in a ring of solar dust.
Betelgeuse is projected by science to be only 6 – 10 million years old.
Science says the star had a core made of hydrogen and thermonuclear fusion has already run out at its core, thus gravity has contracted the core into a hotter and denser state. This process fuses helium into carbon and oxygen which produce enough radiation to swell out its outer layers of hydrogen and helium.
The red star is relatively rich in nitrogen compared to a less evolved star like our Sun (Lambert 1984).
In 1995 astronomers found an enormous bright area more than 2,000 °K, hotter than the surrounding surface of the star (Gilliland & Dupree, 1996).
Betelgeuse’s diameter is roughly 500 times that of the Sun.
If and when it turns into a supernova the threat to Earth would be from the blast waves. Is Betelgeuse one of the “smoking stars” to which Nezahualcoyotl referred in his 15th century Aztec prophecy? It probably will not cause any direct physical destruction, due to the huge distance between Betelgeuse and the Earth. But then again.


Read more: http://scienceray.com/astronomy/apocalypse-soon-supernova-betelgeuse-is-coming/#ixzz1J173NAKk

http://www.popcultcha.com.au/images/Beetlejuice.jpg

http://news.sp@m/space/dont-panic-betelgeuse-wont-explode-in-2012.html

:)

Betelgeuse is a dying star. It's reached the end of the line and currently in the terminal throes of shedding vast bubbles of gas into space. Betelgeuse is a red supergiant star and it's so massive that it will detonate as a supernova.

With all this drama happening 640 light-years away in the constellation of Orion, there's little wonder that this tumultuous star is easy headline bait.

_____________

this has happened already yes

640 years ago,

the LIGHT is about to decend unto mother earth from the pleadian

system

orions belt

enjoy the show

it is imminent

namaste

-:)

On reading a few sentences from the Australian News.com.au article, one would think the journalist had found the story of the decade. NEWS FLASH: An exploding Betelgeuse is one of the most over-used sensationalist stellar events to appear in the tabloid press in recent years. There's no scoop here, move along

_____________

no scoop this freemason says,move along even...

hahaha ummm......no freemasonic

we shall do what we will

freewill you see?

keep writing your rubbish...the informed will move along from

your hoodinkery

with forgiveness

namaste

Quote:

this world will go on yes however many shall not pass

 Sounds very like the Christian idea of the Judgement Day where only Christians who have said "Jesus" will be saved from  destruction.
 
 It is right the wheat will be separated from the chaff, or the truth from error, and the wrong won't pass, obviously, just like in all tests.
 But, as everything on Earth has always been, and will always be, bound by the slower-than-snail-pace of evolution, so will this be and therefore there will be no event.

 As always, only and exactly what is made by man will happen. Nothing happens out of the blue, or black, or for free.

you may sounds like all you like yes

i am not religious

namaste

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRVHW_7173Y&feature=feedu

http://www.the2012countdown.com/The_2012_Time_Line.html

VERY IMPORTANT INFO REGARDING >>>SHIFT<<<

namaste

...being religious and being spiritual is not the same thing

one can be both though

you may be whatever you like

as you do not need any permission

freewill you see?

so be it

namaste

In a month or two are two eclispes, I think.
Eclipses of the heart, or defining pupils?
Remotely possibly co-co-incidence of Earth's end result of di-di-disaster, Ma-Ma-Ma-Master, that has all Earth seeing double or triple?


Ahh...

Quote:

A total lunar eclipse will take place on June 15, 2011. It is the first of two total lunar eclipses in 2011, the second occurring on December 10.

Do not respond to these dark types, Master. They only wish to bring us down to their level.

Christed ones only, please. It wears on the Lights ViBrAtIoNaL fields to deal with dark ones.

If you have a question for the Light, ask politely, humbly back off, and do not expect a reply immediately.

You will receive all you ask for as all is freewill, is it not?

The Light is not religious and has no creed.

Do not respond to these dark types, Master. They only wish to bring us down to their level.

Christed ones only, please. It wears on the Lights ViBrAtIoNaL fields to deal with dark ones.

_____________

all are welcomed and forgiven unconditionally

fear not beloveds

for i am that i am that i am that i am with thee

and so it is...

it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2011 at 12:48pm:

Do not respond to these dark types, Master. They only wish to bring us down to their level. Christed ones only, please. It wears on the Lights ViBrAtIoNaL fields to deal with dark ones. _____________ all are welcomed and forgiven unconditionally fear not beloveds for i am that i am that i am that i am with thee and so it is...

There is only one level - only one light - only one Christed Beam direction

Only one way out for forgiveness

http://www.stacijshelton.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/light-at-end-of-tunnel61.jpg

That's right. The Light forgives us.

Thank you, Light!

Remember, you do not need to deal with the dark ones. You're always so nice to them, but it must wear you out in the end.

Life is too short!

Karnal wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2011 at 2:54pm:

That's right. The Light forgives us. Thank you, Light! Remember, you do not need to deal with the dark ones. You're always so nice to them, but it must wear you out in the end. Life is too short!

Jesus shinned pure light on all

That's right. The Light forgives us.

Thank you, Light!

Remember, you do not need to deal with the dark ones. You're always so nice to them, but it must wear you out in the end.

Life is too short!

__________

from this perspective

you may interpret that this must be a problem

my perspective within the CHRIST within i am that i am,

it is no bother or task to endure,

yet an adventure of sorts as you may depict this

and so it is

namaste

Exactly.

tattooine

and so it is

a new particle is being extrapolated by your sun

does this comfort you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru7cecNDfHU&feature=feedf

namaste

very powerful lunar eclipse 1st june

namaste

-:)

Whaaa?

This is plain proof of the "Get back in the kitchen you idiot" theory.

Get real please.

..and you too light. Get back in the bloody kitchen too.

you are sending mixed messages beloved amad

at the quick you announce with a teddy bear and testafy

unto the projected fact that you aledgedly LOVE me

then you abuse with your posts unto me..your brother

i do not judge you i send back forgiveness and LOVE unto your

being in this now moment whence you read these humble words

as i surround you now with the ViBrAtIoN of OHHM*

i do indeed and further LOVE you

are you comforted?

namaste

-:)

That'll fix him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGeXb1gfTbE&feature=feedlik

Part I - Andromeda Council: Updates on Comet Elenin, brown dwarf, Nibiru, earth changes & 4-D Earth

2 suns in our solar system within 2 months it is said

namaste

Latest Earthquakes M5.0+ in the World - Past 7 days
Latest Earthquakes Magnitude 5.0 and Greater in the World - Last 7 days

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Magnitude 5 and greater earthquakes located by the USGS and contributing networks in the last week (168 hours). Magnitudes 6 and above are in red. (Some early events may be obscured by later ones on the maps.)

The most recent earthquakes are at the top of the list. Times are in Coordinated Universal Time (UTC). Click on the word "map" to see a ten-degree tall map displaying the earthquake. Click on an event's "DATE" to get a detailed report.

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Update time = Sat Sep 17 15:32:23 UTC 2011

     MAG      UTC DATE-TIME
y/m/d h:m:s      LAT
deg      LON
deg      DEPTH
km       Region
MAP       5.4        2011/09/17 08:59:30        48.906        154.794       59.1       KURIL ISLANDS
MAP       5.9        2011/09/17 07:33:59        40.309        142.901       39.5       NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP       5.5        2011/09/16 22:40:43        40.288        143.174       5.4       OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP       5.6        2011/09/16 21:36:36        40.122        143.331       17.6       OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP       6.0        2011/09/16 21:08:06        40.221        143.050       20.2       OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP       5.5        2011/09/16 20:11:15        40.305        143.180       19.0       OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP       5.2        2011/09/16 19:39:46        40.403        142.034       10.4       NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP       6.6        2011/09/16 19:26:42        40.288        142.727       36.3       NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP       5.6        2011/09/16 18:23:26       -20.732        169.724      113.1       VANUATU
MAP       5.2        2011/09/16 11:52:17        18.220        119.340       9.9       PHILIPPINE ISLANDS REGION
MAP       5.1        2011/09/15 20:40:21       -56.308        -26.820      105.3       SOUTH SANDWICH ISLANDS REGION
MAP       7.3        2011/09/15 19:31:03       -21.559       -179.369      626.1       FIJI REGION
MAP       5.1        2011/09/15 16:08:33       -54.041        -1.971       16.3       BOUVET ISLAND REGION
MAP       5.1        2011/09/15 15:27:02        36.383        82.528       6.5       SOUTHERN XINJIANG, CHINA
MAP       5.5        2011/09/15 11:59:53       -14.848       -177.812      370.0       FIJI REGION
MAP       5.1        2011/09/15 08:43:07        19.563        -78.008       5.0       CUBA REGION
MAP       6.2        2011/09/15 08:00:07        36.289        141.308       10.0       NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
MAP       6.0        2011/09/15 07:53:12       -35.430       -177.878       13.4       EAST OF THE NORTH ISLAND, NEW ZEALAND
MAP       6.1        2011/09/14 18:10:07        53.138        173.022       1.0       NEAR ISLANDS, ALEUTIAN ISLANDS, ALASKA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFVS5_dlUYQ&feature=channel_video_title

George Kavassilas - Ascension: Half of humanity ascends to the 5th dimension on March 21, 2013

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6E-kTd42-g

http://lightworkers.org/channeling/141571/hilarions-weekly-message-september18-25-2011

Hilarion's Weekly Message

September 18-25, 2011

Beloved Ones,

You have all been integrating the incoming energies at an incredible rate. The feeling of unease in your Solar Plexus area requires more relaxation on your part and the practice of deep breathing, preferably when outdoors. There continue to be many changes taking place within you and as this process continues, a greater ease will be felt. Some of you are already feeling the greater ease within your four lower bodies and these Ones will find life becoming more joyful and filled with grace.

The veil between the dimensions is becoming much weaker and there are many instances of interplay between them. These are moments when some of you just shake your heads and think that you are experiencing a momentary aberration in your perceptual field and this is, in fact, what is actually happening. These can be very confusing times that could take you off your Path. Call upon us each morning and ask us to come closer to you for your guidance and protection each day as these aberrations will continue to come through with greater frequency.

Everywhere around you there is a greater awareness taking place and humanity is starting to step up to the plate and is beginning to understand that taking a stand for what they believe is right is having its powerful effect. As people join each other in adding their voices in many different projects and focuses to end the blatant disregard for the citizens of this World and the resources upon this Planet from those who want only to maintain control, the realization is dawning within the Awakened Ones that there is great power in numbers and this realization is having a domino effect. As more people rise up and stand up for their rights and the rights of all upon your World, change will come about in incredibly peaceful ways.

As the Beloved Lightworkers and the Awakening Ones across the Planet take part in joint meditations and other focuses that are held at the most opportune times during each month, the mass consciousness grid is being cleansed more efficiently than ever before. As more space is created for the higher energies of Cosmic Love to permeate everything upon, within and around the Earth, these higher energies are then being assimilated by everyone and everything on and in the Planet. You might have been noticing that for the most part, people are much more willing to be more patient with each other than they used to be, they are more filled with humility and kindness towards each other and are willing to stop and listen to each other. This trend will keep on growing stronger as each day goes by.

All that you have held in your visions for a better World is now beginning to come to fruition and so we beseech you to keep on keeping on, even though it might seem darker than ever before as you view the World events around you. This is but the illusion all have lived under for lifetimes now being brought up for review, attention, realization and learning, and most importantly, for clearing and dissolution. Many new and viable solutions to age old problems will begin to surface within the consciousness of many and new ideas will begin to take root that will revolutionize the World into one that is worthy and able to become a part of the Galactic Family of Light once again.

Stay in the moment, Dear Ones, new history of the New Earth is now being written and you, each of you, are an integral part of it. Live each day as and for the Glory of God and all will continue to be well. Faith and patience can indeed move mountains.

Until next week…

I AM Hilarion

it_is_the_light wrote on Sep 19^th, 2011 at 5:30pm:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6E-kTd42-g http://lightworkers.org/channeling/141571/hilarions-weekly-message-september18-25-2011 Hilarion's Weekly Message September 18-25, 2011 Beloved Ones, You have all been integrating the incoming energies at an incredible rate. The feeling of unease in your Solar Plexus area requires more relaxation on your part and the practice of deep breathing, preferably when outdoors. There continue to be many changes taking place within you and as this process continues, a greater ease will be felt. Some of you are already feeling the greater ease within your four lower bodies and these Ones will find life becoming more joyful and filled with grace. The veil between the dimensions is becoming much weaker and there are many instances of interplay between them. These are moments when some of you just shake your heads and think that you are experiencing a momentary aberration in your perceptual field and this is, in fact, what is actually happening. These can be very confusing times that could take you off your Path. Call upon us each morning and ask us to come closer to you for your guidance and protection each day as these aberrations will continue to come through with greater frequency. Everywhere around you there is a greater awareness taking place and humanity is starting to step up to the plate and is beginning to understand that taking a stand for what they believe is right is having its powerful effect. As people join each other in adding their voices in many different projects and focuses to end the blatant disregard for the citizens of this World and the resources upon this Planet from those who want only to maintain control, the realization is dawning within the Awakened Ones that there is great power in numbers and this realization is having a domino effect. As more people rise up and stand up for their rights and the rights of all upon your World, change will come about in incredibly peaceful ways. As the Beloved Lightworkers and the Awakening Ones across the Planet take part in joint meditations and other focuses that are held at the most opportune times during each month, the mass consciousness grid is being cleansed more efficiently than ever before. As more space is created for the higher energies of Cosmic Love to permeate everything upon, within and around the Earth, these higher energies are then being assimilated by everyone and everything on and in the Planet. You might have been noticing that for the most part, people are much more willing to be more patient with each other than they used to be, they are more filled with humility and kindness towards each other and are willing to stop and listen to each other. This trend will keep on growing stronger as each day goes by. All that you have held in your visions for a better World is now beginning to come to fruition and so we beseech you to keep on keeping on, even though it might seem darker than ever before as you view the World events around you. This is but the illusion all have lived under for lifetimes now being brought up for review, attention, realization and learning, and most importantly, for clearing and dissolution. Many new and viable solutions to age old problems will begin to surface within the consciousness of many and new ideas will begin to take root that will revolutionize the World into one that is worthy and able to become a part of the Galactic Family of Light once again. Stay in the moment, Dear Ones, new history of the New Earth is now being written and you, each of you, are an integral part of it. Live each day as and for the Glory of God and all will continue to be well. Faith and patience can indeed move mountains. Until next week… I AM Hilarion

Well more like you ARE hilarious....

http://spaceweather.com/images2011/21sep11/hmi4096_blank.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRe3dN0acS0&feature=feedf

Hawaiian Morning Sky - Large Object Elenin?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zhk5-hmUOg

Magnetosphere - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetosphere
A magnetosphere is formed when a stream of charged particles, such as the solar wind, interacts with and is deflected by the intrinsic magnetic field of a planet or similar body. Earth is surrounded by a magnetosphere, as are the other planets with intrinsic magnetic fields: Mercury, Jupiter, Saturn... (less info)

http://vinesbranch.net/index.php?p=1_762_NIBIRU-INBOUND-The-John-Moore-Show-7-25-2012

http://vinesbranch.net/index.php?p=1_762_NIBIRU-INBOUND-The-John-Moore-Show-7-25-2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKrVnaVCE00

The John Moore Show 7-25-2012 - Special Nibiru 2 Hr Presentation Part 1

Published on Jul 25, 2012 by ToDayPrepare
On the John Moore Show today, John and Mike Harris give us more details on the closeness of Nibiru.
Listen to all the phone in callers.

Be Prepared!
Get Prepared!

http://thelibertyman.com/
www.veteranstoday.com/
Category:
Education



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnSwaJL4eWs&feature=g-u-u

"Dramatic" 'Second Sun' Capture from Antarctica July 2012 (vid.)

Hi Light,
do you honestly believe that you're in contact with aliens via the
galactic federation of light?

the prophecy is completed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaclN6wCTt0

NIBIRU SIGHTINGS ~ 2012 ~ NOT Lens Flares! also SOHO and Recent Satellite Video

the thread stands correct

namaste

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/anasazi/time2011b.html

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/images/milkhillx-3.jpg

Such a rare alignment of five planets will appear on the new Moon of June 2, 2011 at sunrise in Sydney, or 10 hours later in southern England 

Yes, the astronomical symbols which were drawn in crops at Milk Hill during June of 2009 do have a real-life solution! Such a rare alignment of five bright objects will appear on the new Moon of June 1, 2011. Those four planets (and the Moon) will be clearly visible at sunrise on June 2 in Sydney, Australia, or 10 hours later in southern England (see iceinspace):



On that day, the Moon and four bright planets will line up in Earth’s sky in a very distinctive fashion. A new Moon will be located close to the horizon at “low altitude”, while Mercury and Venus will follow just above at “medium altitude”, then Mars and Jupiter will follow at “high altitude”. 

The relative altitudes of those five planets as measured with a sextant seem correct for a new Moon of June 1, 2011

When we compare the real sky altitudes of those five planets (for sunrise in Sydney on June 2) with their approximate values as predicted in crops at Milk Hill, we can see a reasonably good match: 

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/images/milkhillx-4.jpg

Planet “X” has not been included in the sky diagram, which is based on known planetary objects within our solar system. Yet the crop picture from Milk Hill 2009 seems to tell us that we will see a bright unknown object between Venus and Mars when viewed from Earth, on the new Moon of June 1, 2011, if we have interpreted it correctly. 

The unknown object “X” was circled to indicate its importance, and may appear between 3 = Venus and 4 = Mars as seen from Earth 

When we look more closely at how planet “X” was portrayed in Milk Hill of 2009, we can see a small circled object with standing crop at its centre, somewhere between the apparent sky locations of Venus and Mars as viewed from Earth: 

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/images/milkhillx-5.jpg



Strangely enough, planet “5” or Jupiter becomes “6” on the left, once planet “X” is included, although its main count remains “5” below, where planet “X” has been omitted. We can even see where a curved line (orbit) for planet “6” on the left, joins directly to five small balls below which represent “planet “5”. That would be a strange way to describe some new comet, but we will have to wait and see. 

The third part of Milk Hill on June 30, 2009 showed a series of strange astronomical hieroglyphs that were clearly alien-made 

Perhaps to dispel any possible notion that Phases I and II could have been carved out by local human fakers, using rope and boards, Phase III of Milk Hill 2009 showed an amazing series of astronomical hieroglyphs, stretching across the green field for approximately 500 meters: 

_____________________

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/images/Milk-Hill-comet-star.jpg

http://spaceweather.com/

SDO ECLIPSE SEASON: Twice every year, around the time of the equinoxes, Earth can pass directly between the Sun and NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory (SDO), producing a series of beautiful eclipses from the point of view of the spacecraft. SDO's autumnal eclipse season began yesterday, Sept. 6th, with a partial blackout of the sun:

http://spaceweather.com/images2012/06sep12/eclipse304_strip.jpg

During the eclipse, which was centered around 0700 UT, Earth covered about half of the sun. Because these eclipses typically last only a few minutes, there is still plenty of time remaining in the day for SDO to monitor activity on the sun. The observatory won't miss much even with Earth occasionally getting in the way. The ongoing eclipse season will end on Sept. 26th. Between now and then, stay tuned for some rare blackouts.

it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2011 at 4:27am:

has anyone heard that saturn will be another sun? within 12 odd months this smaller sun will create an equalibrium perfect sperical syncronicity and have the exact perceived mass in the sky as moon and current sun/sol? the earth will traverse in a figure 8 between the 2 suns and a split will occur...more info to come..research yes good namaste

5 months on - hows the sun formation coming along?

question,

how do you think suns form?

do they just appear?

lets see what you come up with yes

correct thread you are on-topic to share here

namaste

-:)

it_is_the_light wrote on Sep 7^th, 2012 at 7:54pm:

question, how do you think suns form? do they just appear? lets see what you come up with yes correct thread you are on-topic to share here namaste -:)

I think they'd gradually accumulate all the surrounding matter until one day, they reach critical mass and ignite.

I'm pretty sure it hasn't ingited yet, but I'd think thered be signs of matter being sucked into it. 

So whats the mass of saturn currently standing at? 

why not do a little research and post your findings here?

im interested in what you will find..

namaste

-:)

Nah.

I'm not that interested. Seen the footy score?

here is some info on the topic if the footy is over..

http://www.optcorp.com/edu/articleDetailEDU.aspx?aid=33

Project Lucifer: Will Cassini Turn Saturn into a Second Sun? (Part 2)

So, in a second attempt, they will drop the Cassini probe (again, laden with plutonium) deep into Saturn's atmosphere in two years time, so this smaller gas giant can succeed where Jupiter failed…
By Ian O'Neill

http://www.optcorp.com/images2/articles/full-lucifer_project2-580x216.jpg

The story: The Lucifer Project is allegedly the biggest conspiracy theory NASA could possibly be involved in. First, back in 2003, the space agency (in co-operation with secret and powerful organizations)  .....

[ ie: satanic freemasonic types attempting to invoke

some twisted dark agenda while everyone was

watching footy . edit it_is_the_light ]

....dropped the Galileo probe deep into Jupiter's atmosphere. On board, was a significant quantity of plutonium. As the probe fell though the atmosphere, NASA hoped atmospheric pressures would create an implosion, generating a nuclear explosion thereby kick-starting a chain reaction, turning the gas giant into a second Sun. They failed. So, in a second attempt, they will drop the Cassini probe (again, laden with plutonium) deep into Saturn's atmosphere in two years time, so this smaller gas giant can succeed where Jupiter failed…


The reality: As investigated briefly in Project Lucifer: Will Cassini Turn Saturn into a Second Sun? (Part 1), we looked at some of the technical problems behind Galileo and Cassini being used as makeshift nuclear weapons. They cannot generate an explosion for many reasons, but the main points are: 1) Tiny pellets of plutonium used to heat and power the probes are in separate, damage-proof cylinders. 2) The plutonium is not weapon grade, meaning the 238Pu makes a very inefficient fissionable fuel. 3) The probes will burn up and break apart, therefore disallowing any chance of lumps of plutonium forming "critical mass" (besides, there is no chance the plutonium could possibly form a configuration to create an implosion-triggered device).

OK, so Galileo and Cassini cannot be used as crude nuclear weapons. But say if there was a nuclear explosion inside Saturn? Could it cause a chain reaction in the core, creating a second Sun?

http://www.optcorp.com/pdf/OPT/EDU/tsar_photo11-250x196.jpg

Thermonuclear bombs

Unless nuclear fusion can be maintained within a stellar body, the reaction will very quickly fizz out. So the Lucifer Project proposes Cassini will plunge many hundreds of miles into the atmosphere of Saturn and explode as a crude plutonium-fuelled fission explosion. This explosion will cause a chain reaction, creating enough energy to trigger nuclear fusion inside the gas giant.

I can see where this idea has come from, even though it is inaccurate. The fusion bomb (or "thermonuclear weapon") uses a fission trigger to kick-start an uncontrolled fusion reaction. The fission trigger is constructed to explode like a normal fission bomb much like the implosion device described in Part 1 of this series. When detonated, huge quantities of energetic X-rays are produced, heating the material surrounding the fusion fuel (such as lithium deuteride), causing the phase transition to a plasma. As very hot plasma is surrounding the lithium deuteride (in a very confined and pressured environment) the fuel will produce tritium, a heavy hydrogen isotope. Tritium then undergoes nuclear fusion, liberating huge quantities of energy as the tritium nuclei are forced together, overcoming the electrostatic forces between nuclei and fusing. Fusion releases large quantities of binding energy, more-so than fission.

http://www.optcorp.com/pdf/OPT/EDU/starsizes-230x250.jpg


How does a star work?

The point that needs to be emphasised here is that in a thermonuclear device, fusion can only be attained when immense temperatures are reached within a very confined and pressurized environment. What's more, in the case of a fusion bomb, this reaction is uncontrolled.

So, how are nuclear fusion reactions sustained in a star (like our Sun)? In the thermonuclear bomb example above, tritium fusion is achieved through inertial confinement (i.e. rapid, hot and energetic pressure on the fuel to cause fusion), but in the case of a star, a sustained mode of confinement is required. Gravitational confinement is needed for nuclear fusion reactions to occur in the core. For significant gravitational confinement, the star requires a minimum mass.

In the core of our Sun (and most other stars smaller than our Sun), nuclear fusion is achieved through the proton-proton chain (pictured below). This is a hydrogen burning mechanism where helium is generated. Two protons (hydrogen nuclei) combine after overcoming the highly repulsive electrostatic force. This can only be achieved if the stellar body has a large enough mass, increasing gravitational containment in the core. Once the protons combine, they form deuterium (2D), producing a positron (quickly annihilating with an electron) and a neutrino. The deuterium nucleus can then combine with another proton, thus creating a light helium isotope (3He). The outcome of this reaction generates gamma-rays that maintain the stability and high temperature of the star's core (in the case of the Sun, the core reaches a temperature of 15 million Kelvin).

As discussed in a previous Universe Today article, there are a range of planetary bodies below the threshold of becoming a "star" (and not able to sustain proton-proton fusion). The bridge between the largest planets (i.e. gas giants, like Jupiter and Saturn) and the smallest stars are known as brown dwarfs. Brown dwarfs are less than 0.08 solar masses and nuclear fusion reactions have never taken hold (although larger brown dwarfs may have had a short period of hydrogen fusion in their cores). Their cores have a pressure of 105 million atmospheres with temperatures below 3 million Kelvin. Keep in mind, even the smallest brown dwarfs are approximately 10 times more massive than Jupiter (the largest brown dwarfs are around 80 times the mass of Jupiter). So, for even a small chance of the proton-proton chain occurring, we'd need a large brown dwarf, at least 80 times bigger than Jupiter (over 240 Saturn masses) to even stand the hope of sustaining gravitational confinement.

There's no chance Saturn could sustain nuclear fusion?

Sorry, no. Saturn is simply too small.

Implying that a nuclear (fission) bomb detonating inside Saturn could create the conditions for a nuclear fusion chain reaction (like the proton-proton chain) is, again, in the realms of science fiction. Even the larger gas giant Jupiter is far too puny to sustain fusion.

I have also seen arguments claiming that Saturn consists of the same gases as our Sun (i.e. hydrogen and helium), so a runaway chain reaction is possible, all that is needed is a rapid injection of energy. However, the hydrogen that can be found in Saturn's atmosphere is diatomic molecular hydrogen (H2), not the free hydrogen nuclei (high energy protons) as found in the Sun's core. And yes, H2 is highly flammable (after all it was responsible for the infamous Hindenburg airship disaster in 1937), but only when mixed with a large quantity of oxygen, chlorine or fluorine. Alas Saturn does not contain significant quantities of any of those gases.

Conclusion
Although fun, "The Lucifer Project" is the product of someone's lively imagination. Part 1 of "Project Lucifer: Will Cassini Turn Saturn into a Second Sun?" introduced the conspiracy and focused on some of the general aspects why the Galileo probe in 2003 simply burned up in Jupiter's atmosphere, scattering the small pellets of plutonium-238 as it did so. The "black spot" as discovered the next month was simply one of the many dynamic and short-lived storms often seen to develop on the planet.

This article has gone one step further and ignored the fact that it was impossible for Cassini to become an interplanetary atomic weapon. What if there was a nuclear explosion inside Saturn's atmosphere? Well, it looks like it would be a pretty boring affair. I dare say a few lively electrical storms might be generated, but we wouldn't see much from Earth. As for anything more sinister happening, it is highly unlikely there would be any lasting damage to the planet. There would certainly be no fusion reaction as Saturn is too small and it contains all the wrong gases.

Oh well, Saturn will just have to stay the way it is, rings and all. When Cassini completes its mission in two years time, we can look forward to the science we will accumulate from such an incredible and historic endeavour rather than fearing the impossible…

Update (Aug. 7th): As pointed out by some readers below, molecular hydrogen wasn't really the cause of the Hindenburg airship disaster, it was the aluminium-based paint that may have sparked the explosion, hydrogen and oxygen fuelled the fire.

Article Provided by Universe Today

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUHXuThvpbs

( ALERT )) NIBIRU IS HITTING EARTH WITH ASTEROIDS 17-09-2012.mp4

Published on Sep 16, 2012 by NeddyFlandersRollsss
I have included pictures I have taken from 2010 along with Cam Footage of the planet speeding up towards us as it makes a very fast pace each day.
We now cannot see The Second Sun rising through the HCFT as it is rising each morning now as it is in direct position of the sun. Included in this video is different footage from the same telescope every single day I have checked daily as it has been steaming toward our direction.
NOW is the time to BEWARE of HAARP INDUCED NATURAL DISASTER.
I THINK SOMEHTING IS PLANNED

NASA definitely want Saturn to become a second sun. Think about it. With 2 suns, the world will split like a cell, as predicted in 2013.

NASA are acting according to the DP.

prepare

this month many shall realize this truth

fear not

namaste


ॐ

it_is_the_light wrote on Aug 5^th, 2014 at 7:17am:

prepare this month many shall realize this truth fear not namaste ॐ

Dear master Light,
If Jupiter was 10 times more massive it could sustain a fusion reaction.
It is the largest planet & contains more mass than all the other planets combined.

Alas - Saturn has no where near enough mass to sustain fusion.

forgiven

namaste

Bobby. wrote on Aug 5^th, 2014 at 7:27am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Aug 5th, 2014 at 7:17am: prepare this month many shall realize this truth fear not namaste ॐ Dear master Light, If Jupiter was 10 times more massive it could sustain a fusion reaction. It is the largest planet & contains more mass than all the other planets combined. Alas - Saturn has no where near enough mass to sustain fusion. forgiven namaste

many blessings , beloved being ,

you again are confused

I speak not upon the 2 planets you mention

so again you apply your confusion and cloud

then disrupt the flow of information and data

with your guess , a non logical one at that...

then you forgive one such as I am ?

why ?

this leaves you exposed in your confusion .

one such as I am suffers not your affliction .

you remain forgiven

namaste

- : ) =

page 2 of this thread ...



it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 4^th, 2011 at 1:08pm:

so you rely on magic to realise your nueropathic delusions? Ti was said in the dream of Aristarchus that those that fill the ether with spasmodic lies and vortices will have their scrotums lanced with the dualist blade of Hades and dipped in the acid pool of Nimrod Something to think about before your saturn dream comes crashing down upon your stealthed cranium ________ perspective again look and you shall see..i started this thread with "has anyone heard" of this theory i am not making claim however i see logic may point unto this manifestation, and what do i receive for opening discussion the same vitriol enveloped within scrotums being lanced in deed,no less.. these attacks are forgiven brother and sister beings i spread LOVE and LIGHT and distribute forgiveness and for these efforts abused constantly yes and these are forgiven yes they simply know not what they do namaste

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[quote]reply #21 - Apr 4th, 2011 at 3:55pm Quote  id fools and gizmo

i did not say those predictions before and still

do not

you both misrepresent me again,

forgiven.

the world will not end in 2012..

a split is to take place 31 dec 2011

freewill choice

duality or unity consciousness/one-ness

freewill so be it

tick tock

namaste

-:)

Quote:

1. If Jupiter was 10 times more massive it could sustain a fusion reaction. It is the largest planet & contains more mass than all the other planets combined. 2. Alas - Saturn has no where near enough mass to sustain fusion.

further

the 2 statements you repeat are false

https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2011/08/18/10609/

you are forgiven

here is the data you seek

namaste

- : ) =

A badly formatted blog. Colour me convinced over those eggheads at NASA, WTF do they know?

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 5^th, 2014 at 9:47am:

A badly formatted blog. Colour me convinced over those eggheads at NASA, WTF do they know?

copy that

if nasa or anyone else can factually dispute and

prove any non fact at the thunderbolts site

I will discombobulate into an omni present

aspect of the one creator above and below

the centric signwave ...

https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2011/08/18/10609/

The Essential Guide to the Electric Universe (EG2EU)

https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/red_square_cropped_250x250.jpg

Red Square nebula. Credit: Peter Tuthill, Sydney University Physics Dept Palomar and W.M. Keck observatories

" This Guide is intended for anyone who wonders how our Universe really works, and who might be interested in an intriguing and somewhat different point of view. Readers may be surprised to discover that many well-trained skeptics do not support popular ideas in astronomy and the space sciences."

namaste

- : ) =

https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2011/09/02/essential-guide-to-eu-introduction/


In a Coronal Mass Ejection (CME), charged particles are explosively accelerated away from the Sun in streaming filaments, defying the Sun’s immense gravity. Electric fields accelerate charged particles, and nothing else known to science can achieve the same effect. If the Sun is the center of an electric field, how many other enigmatic features of this body will find direct explanation?    Credit: SOHO (NASA/ESA)

https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/crnagraph_helical_mass-ejection_bred450x291_nasa1.jpg


https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/3c31_gradient_image_450x495.jpg

Active galaxy 3C31 (circled at center) is dwarfed by the plasma jets along its polar axis, moving at velocities a large fraction of the speed of light. How might the electrical potential along the immense volume of this active region affect the evolution of this galaxy and its billions of stars? Credit: NRAO’s Very Large Array, and Patrick Leahy’s Atlas of DRAGNs


https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/matter_pie_chart_450x286.jpg

Chandra X-ray Observatory estimates of the “total energy content of the Universe”. Only “normal” matter can be directly detected with telescopes. The remaining “dark”matter and energy are invisible.   Image Credit: NASA WMAP

https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/inflating_universe_450x324.jpg

This artistic view of the standard model of the Big Bang and the expanding Universe seems to present a precise picture of cosmic history. A much different story emerges as we learn about plasma phenomena and electric currents in space.    Credit:  NASA WMAP

so yes of and in due course our sun sol.. our star

has many names yes ... is in a sembiotic

relationship with another star .... however

there is yet another that draws close at this time

and as such prepare for lo ,

these things are upon you now

yet fear not beloved

namaste

- : ) =

it_is_the_light wrote on Aug 5^th, 2014 at 9:45am:

Quote: If Jupiter was 10 times more massive it could sustain a fusion reaction. It is the largest planet & contains more mass than all the other planets combined. Alas - Saturn has no where near enough mass to sustain fusion. further the 2 statements you repeat are false https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2011/08/18/10609/ you are forgiven here is the data you seek namaste - : ) =

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jupiter


Quote:

Jupiter is the fifth planet from the Sun and the largest planet in the Solar System. It is a gas giant with mass one-thousandth of that of the Sun but is two and a half times the mass of all the other planets in the Solar System combined.

http://www.universetoday.com/109593/could-jupiter-become-a-star/


Quote:

the smallest red dwarf star is still about 80 times the mass of Jupiter.

forgiven

namaste

it_is_the_light wrote on Aug 5^th, 2014 at 9:45am:

Quote: 1.If Jupiter was 10 times more massive it could sustain a fusion reaction. It is the largest planet & contains more mass than all the other planets combined. 2. Alas - Saturn has no where near enough mass to sustain fusion. further the 2 statements you repeat are false https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2011/08/18/10609/ you are forgiven here is the data you seek namaste - : ) =

many blessings

you continue to spam this thread with

your rubbish and feeble attempt to distort

the information being presented with your inane

non logic and refusal to accept you are wrong ..

twice in one post .

that is forgiven

namaste

- : ) =

Quote:

it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 3rd, 2011 at 4:27am: has anyone heard that Saturn will be another sun? within 12 odd months this smaller sun will create an equilibrium perfect spherical synchronicity and have the exact perceived mass in the sky as moon and current sun/sol? the earth will traverse in a figure 8 between the 2 suns and a split will occur...more info to come..research yes good namaste

And yet I have proven this to be false as Saturn does not
have enough mass to sustain nuclear fusion.

Quote:

And yet I have proven this to be false as Saturn does not have enough mass to sustain nuclear fusion.

this is interesting

what have you proven ?

and where have you proven this ?

for the statement is incorrect .. pls provide

your proof .

namaste

- : ) =

it_is_the_light wrote on Aug 6^th, 2014 at 7:34am:

Quote: And yet I have proven this to be false as Saturn does not have enough mass to sustain nuclear fusion. this is interesting what have you proven ? and where have you proven this ? for the statement is incorrect .. pls provide your proof . namaste - : ) =

Quote:

the smallest red dwarf star is still about 80 times the mass of Jupiter.

Therefore - a larger mass is required for fusion.

namaste

Quote:

the smallest red dwarf star is still about 80 times the mass of Jupiter.

http://www.universetoday.com/25348/what-is-the-smallest-star/

http://d1jqu7g1y74ds1.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/ogletr122b-580x330.jpg

The biggest stars in the Universe are the monster red hypergiants, measuring up to 1,500 times the size of the Sun. But what are the smallest stars in the Universe?
The smallest stars around are the tiny red dwarfs. These are stars with 50% the mass of the Sun and smaller. In fact, the least massive red dwarf has 7.5% the mass of the Sun. Even at this smallest size, a star has the temperature and pressures in its core so that nuclear fusion reactions can take place.

One example of red dwarf star is the closest star to Earth, Proxima Centauri, located just 4.2 light-years away. Proxima Centauri has 12% the mass of the Sun, and it’s estimated to be just 14.5% the size of the Sun. The diameter of Proxima Centauri is about 200,000 km. Just for comparison, the diameter of Jupiter is 143,000 km, so Proxima Centauri is only a little larger than Jupiter.

But that’s not the smallest star ever discovered.

The smallest known star right now is OGLE-TR-122b, a red dwarf star that’s part of a binary stellar system. This red dwarf the smallest star to ever have its radius accurately measured; 0.12 solar radii. This works out to be 167,000 km. That’s only 20% larger than Jupiter. You might be surprised to know that OGLE-TR-122b has 100 times the mass of Jupiter, but it’s only a little larger.

And that is the smallest known star. But there are certainly smaller stars out there. The smallest theoretical mass for a star to support nuclear fusion is 0.07 or 0.08 solar masses, so smaller stars are out there.

We have written many articles about stars here on Universe Today. Here’s an article about the biggest star in the Universe.

If you’d like more information on stars, check out Hubblesite’s News Releases about Stars, and here’s the stars and galaxies homepage.


https://twitter.com/universetoday

and so ,

to repeat such incorrect data does no favours here

and only serves to cloud the factual information

from inane conjecture and false repeatisms


so let it be christal clear here

all lies and false will be exposed ,

so best not to attempt lest ye ego be offended

which is correctly a good thing so absorb that truth

namaste

- : ) =

Bobby. wrote on Aug 6^th, 2014 at 7:59am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Aug 6th, 2014 at 7:34am: Quote: And yet I have proven this to be false as Saturn does not have enough mass to sustain nuclear fusion. this is interesting what have you proven ? and where have you proven this ? for the statement is incorrect .. pls provide your proof . namaste - : ) = [quote]the smallest red dwarf star is still about 80 times the mass of Jupiter.

Therefore - a larger mass is required for fusion.

namaste[/quote]

many blessings

you are found to be repeating rubbish again

you are forgiven

namaste

- : ) =

Bobby. wrote on Aug 5^th, 2014 at 7:27am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Aug 5th, 2014 at 7:17am: prepare this month many shall realize this truth fear not namaste ॐ Dear master Light, 1.If Jupiter was 10 times more massive it could sustain a fusion reaction. It is the largest planet & contains more mass than all the other planets combined. 2.Alas - Saturn has no where near enough mass to sustain fusion. forgiven namaste

incorrect

more rubbish spamming this thread

you are forgiven

namaste

- : ) =

and now

one such as I am will continue

to reveal this data , without inane posts

proven to be as much repeating non fact ...

which is forgiven

some think this is a competition

thinking they need to supply something ,

anything to contribute yes

this is ok and cool however

all non fact will be exposed and dismissed

like smacking the lies from your mouth

how does this make you feel ?

yet all exist here within this said phrophecy

much gratitude unto all hearts

as these truths continue to

be disclosed with so very much love ...

im interested with

forgiveness

namaste

- : ) =

I think it will happen tonight!!!

:D :D

Quote:

That’s only 20% larger than Jupiter. You might be surprised to know that OGLE-TR-122b has 100 times the mass of Jupiter, but it’s only a little larger.

forgiven

namaste

it_is_the_light wrote on Aug 6^th, 2014 at 8:12am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 5th, 2014 at 7:27am: [quote author=it_is_the_light link=1301768842/78#78 date=1407187048]prepare this month many shall realize this truth fear not namaste ॐ Dear master Light, 1.If Jupiter was 10 times more massive it could sustain a fusion reaction. It is the largest planet & contains more mass than all the other planets combined. 2.Alas - Saturn has no where near enough mass to sustain fusion. forgiven namaste

1. wrong

2. wrong

Bobby. wrote on Aug 6^th, 2014 at 6:55pm:

Quote: That’s only 20% larger than Jupiter. You might be surprised to know that OGLE-TR-122b has 100 times the mass of Jupiter, but it’s only a little larger. forgiven namaste

many blessings

yes you have taken the data out of context

and repeat blindly without knowing the data

jupiter does not have to be 100 times the size

to sustain fusion as you project ,

yet the mass of a known star , in in OGLE-TR-122b

( the approx size of jupiter )

has a mass 100 X greater than jupiter



Quote:

The smallest known star right now is OGLE-TR-122b, a red dwarf star that’s part of a binary stellar system. This red dwarf the smallest star to ever have its radius accurately measured; 0.12 solar radii. This works out to be 167,000 km. That’s only 20% larger than Jupiter. You might be surprised to know that OGLE-TR-122b has 100 times the mass of Jupiter, but it’s only a little larger.

you remain forgiven for spamming this thread

with your inanity

namaste

- : ) =

You post quotes which support my research.

I give up

namaste

Bobby. wrote on Aug 6^th, 2014 at 7:43pm:

You post quotes which support my research. I give up namaste

many blessings

you give up because you have no clue

what you are repeating and as such

you repeat the data out of context

resulting in continual spamming here

and the correction that is taking place

you remain forgiven

namaste

- : ) =

Now that all is forgiven - let's have a song to celebrate:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVjWqn7sc34

many blessings

you continue to spam this thread

with rubbish

your manners continue to be in lack ...

many posts from you which amount to spam .

then I have to correct your disinformation .

so again ,

I will ask stop spamming this thread

namaste

I will continue to expose falsehoods without permission.

In love and light

namaste

Bobby. wrote on Aug 7^th, 2014 at 7:57am:

I will continue to expose falsehoods without permission. In love and light namaste

this is interesting

what falsehoods have you exposed ?

im interested in any logic

you have to project

namaste

- : ) =

Bobby. wrote on Aug 6^th, 2014 at 7:43pm:

You post quotes which support my research. I give up namaste

many blessings

divine light never gives up .

this is omnipresent throughout all creations .

you have contributed to this thread well

for you illuminate the darkness which must

give up when in contact with the Divine Christ Light

and so it is so be it !

namaste

- : ) =

it_is_the_light wrote on Aug 7^th, 2014 at 9:16am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2014 at 7:57am: I will continue to expose falsehoods without permission. In love and light namaste this is interesting what falsehoods have you exposed ? im interested in any logic you have to project namaste - : ) =

Dear master Light,
I shall not repeat unto thee - that which is already written.

namaste

good answer

we continue with gracefulness ,

more data recorded and shared here

upon this ontopic thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftB7uWiECao


Two Suns in the Sky- Nibiru Approaches

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8-hxzsQxGE


This intriguing two sunrise effect is also video taped in Antarctica… SEPTEMBER 18 2014!!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LcM25ZHtu8

Master Light,
when Nibiru reveals itself, will our creators reveal themselves also?

Freedumb wrote on Sep 21^st, 2014 at 10:35pm:

Master Light, when Nibiru reveals itself, will our creators reveal themselves also?

many blessings ,

prepare

and be at peace

namaste

- : ) =

many blessings

all is well enough

in the divine and sacred light

namaste

- : ) =

it_is_the_light wrote on Sep 21^st, 2014 at 11:11pm:

many blessings all is well enough in the divine and sacred light namaste - : ) =

Many blessings to you too, good sir.
I am at peace like I've never been before!
I was once an angry and ignorant individual. Waking up has made me know peace and this is where my soul truly lies.
I am here to witness the grand change.
Namaste.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXFH_HgPKh4

Planet X (Nibiru) Cover-up ESO,Chile 03/25/2014

The only 2nd Sun I see is the one shining out of It_Is_the_Light's rear end.
8-)

http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/LATEST/current_c2small.gif

http://beforeitsnews.com/space/2014/10/nibiru-new-photos-of-our-massive-second-sun-and-where-planet-x-is-now-2484688.html




http://wbaseem.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/picture-8.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEPJQcMaYjM


Nibiru Is Now Perihelion To Our Sun The Trumpets Will Soon Begin (Amazing Video)
Sunday, November 16, 2014 6:11

Master, how does this change the calcultions for sending the Falcon into light speed?