I grew up in the post WW2 years and it was a long time before I could have any respect for the Japanese.
One looks at the manner they are dealing with this catastrophe with a great deal of awe & admiration.
It is obviously a culture of great respect for each other in the community. The stoicism (a word used heavily atm but the only one that seems to fit) with which they are accepting their homelessness and grief just make you wonder if you could cope in the same way.

I hope our govt is very generous with financial & other aid towards Japan. We are a very wealthy country.

Well said Bogarde73.
I tend to call them Nipponese, although some 'Westerners' call me a RACIST for doing so. Mind you, most people I've met from Nippon here in Australia tend to feel flattered that I would call them by their proper title. Maybe some Westerners think they know everything, like how they still think in Imperial but expect everyone to be Politically Correct upon their behalf.
I dislike Nipponese Whalers immensely and how the Politicians of Nippon are guilty by association with this and long with the Fishing attitudes.
In fact, I dislike Nippon's attitude of 'greed' and over-powerment that goes along with their over-population based upon a sexual immaturity that finds itself doing weird stuff to robots dressed up as school girls.
I disliked Nippon's stupidity in WW2 when they would rather commit suicide than be taken prisoner and how they peppered Australia when they really had no intention to invade because they knew that Ferals lived here.

...I dislike a lot of things about Nippon and the Nips, but I would like to visit Tokyo one day because I think it is one of the best cities in the world, would like to watch a Sumo match and I don't think I will ever stop calling them by their rightful name.

So I wish them all the best, and hopefully the overpopulation with minimal gene pool immigration hasn't rendered them totally stoopid and the get the message that all things 'Atomic/Nuclear' just doesn't gel with them.

hear hear bogy.. I do have great faith in them though they have survived some traumatic history... Hiroshima being one..

however I trust we never see anything of this magnitude again..this will have to be one of natures largest disasters to befall us... it is us after all said and done the ripple affect will be enormous.

Australia is possibly in the most 'secure' region of the world, besides Bushfires, Floods, Droughts and Cyclones.
But if Australia starts to shake, vulcanise and cop Tsunamis

...then the world is well and truly in for a major belting.

Good to see the Nips 'jilt' the Military pride for a more 'Rescue' approach to matters.

I think Australia should make Military service 'Volunteer'
and S.E.S a paid vocation.
...seems the S.E.S are more busy.

Despite what you think , the term "nips" is offensive and racist.

And they are not "nipponese".


They are "japanese".

Any other term used to describe them is for the purpose of belittling and insulting.

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 17^th, 2011 at 7:57pm:

Despite what you think , the term "nips" is offensive and racist. .

For bugger's sake, why is everyone so precious about insulting each other these days.
Whatever happened to the days of just calling a spade a spade and everyone gets on with life??

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 17^th, 2011 at 9:06pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 17th, 2011 at 7:57pm: Despite what you think , the term "nips" is offensive and racist. . For bugger's sake, why is everyone so precious about insulting each other these days. Whatever happened to the days of just calling a spade a spade and everyone gets on with life??

Because some of us dont get our jollies by insulting people.

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 17^th, 2011 at 10:39pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 17th, 2011 at 9:06pm: darkhall67 wrote on Mar 17th, 2011 at 7:57pm: Despite what you think , the term "nips" is offensive and racist. . For bugger's sake, why is everyone so precious about insulting each other these days. Whatever happened to the days of just calling a spade a spade and everyone gets on with life?? Because some of us dont get our jollies by insulting people.

well, some of us DO get our jollies off by insulting others.

And the nips have taken the belting very well.
they have had 3 major hits and the 3rd is rearing as the worst.

terrible time for the nips, hard to imagine much worse.

hope your times of trouble pass quickly jappos.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 17^th, 2011 at 9:06pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 17th, 2011 at 7:57pm: Despite what you think , the term "nips" is offensive and racist. . For bugger's sake, why is everyone so precious about insulting each other these days. Whatever happened to the days of just calling a spade a spade and everyone gets on with life??

well I cant imagine any Japanese having the time to be offended by that term right at this moment to be honest with you...

however it would have been more appropriate if those coming on this thread had the decency to praise the people instead of turning this into a race thing.

for political point scoring..

the horror of what we are seeing

as well we know could happen to any of us..just because this country doesnt happen to lie on a major fault line.. does not mean we are safe from a tsumani.. and dont you forget it.

cods wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 7:14am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 17th, 2011 at 9:06pm: darkhall67 wrote on Mar 17th, 2011 at 7:57pm: Despite what you think , the term "nips" is offensive and racist. . For bugger's sake, why is everyone so precious about insulting each other these days. Whatever happened to the days of just calling a spade a spade and everyone gets on with life?? well I cant imagine any Japanese having the time to be offended by that term right at this moment to be honest with you... however it would have been more appropriate if those coming on this thread had the decency to praise the people instead of turning this into a race thing. for political point scoring.. the horror of what we are seeing as well we know could happen to any of us..just because this country doesnt happen to lie on a major fault line.. does not mean we are safe from a tsumani.. and dont you forget it.

There's nothing political about protesting against racism.

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 17^th, 2011 at 7:57pm:

Despite what you think , the term "nips" is offensive and racist. And they are not "nipponese". They are "japanese". Any other term used to describe them is for the purpose of belittling and insulting.

So says the gwai lo.

Adj. 1. Nipponese - of or relating to or characteristic of Japan or its people or their culture or language; "the Japanese Emperor"; "Japanese cars"
Japanese

Based on WordNet 3.0, Farlex clipart collection. © 2003-2008 Princeton University, Farlex Inc.


It would seem that it is not an insult,  however I prefer to call them Japanese people.  They have surely been through some dreadful calamities and I sincerely hope they get all the foreign aid (including ours) they will need to recover from this awful tragedy.

... wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 11:18am:

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 17th, 2011 at 7:57pm: Despite what you think , the term "nips" is offensive and racist. And they are not "nipponese". They are "japanese". Any other term used to describe them is for the purpose of belittling and insulting. So says the gwai lo.

That's Chinese.

But all those little asian fellows are the same arent they?

... wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 11:18am:

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 17th, 2011 at 7:57pm: Despite what you think , the term "nips" is offensive and racist. And they are not "nipponese". They are "japanese". Any other term used to describe them is for the purpose of belittling and insulting. So says the gwai lo.

LOL....

You really know how to spook someone, wes.

;)

"Jap; Nip ((offensive slang) a person of Japanese descent)"




http://www.audioenglish.net/dictionary/nipponese.htm

Its amazing how many people call me a Racist for this,
not that I mention anything about their skin colour or anything else racially relating to them.
I would think a word like 'Culturalist' might be more apt,
though I know I'm not that either.

I guess ignorant Western Imperialists like Darkhall67
- you know, they are like the USA -> the one of only two nations on the planet still practicing Maths in the Imperial system rather than the more International and Global 'Metric' system. (no wonder the USA economy is in the shi t again.)

Nippon/Nipponese: is the highest standard of description that the people of Nippon use.
Nihon/Nihonese: is the more casual expression.

Japan/Japanese: is another Western mis-use of description, somewhat arrogant in their continual use of the word. No wonder the Nipponese hardly pay attention to what the Western world has to say. But who would if your name was Dave and someone calls you Shirley. ::)

As for the word "Nip", besides the fact its "how you use the word" rather than the word itself. Its like saying nobody is allowed to call 'Australians' "Aussies" or New Zealanders "Kiwis".

Dare I even mention that the West Africans 'invented' the concept of Slavery, especially out of two nations like Niger & Nigeria
- eh black person? <<<edit: that was meant to be "eh Nig ger"
Or that the Boers reffered to Kaffers because there really was a place called Khafferia that just happened to come up with Coffee as in Caffeine.

Me thinks DarkHall67 is nothing but an ignorant BULLY from archaic Western Imperialism.
...also know as a TWAT.
;D
He probably read Australian Newspapers that spell things like Jail, rather than Gaol. ::)

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:07pm:

... wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 11:18am: darkhall67 wrote on Mar 17th, 2011 at 7:57pm: Despite what you think , the term "nips" is offensive and racist. And they are not "nipponese". They are "japanese". Any other term used to describe them is for the purpose of belittling and insulting. So says the gwai lo. That's Chinese. But all those little asian fellows are the same arent they?

Oh well whatever. doesn't really change the point that it's silly for a honky to claim that 'nips' is offensive.
Perhaps you should let the nips speak for themslves eh?  Or do they need their big white protector to speak on their behalf?

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:09pm:

Its amazing how many people call me a Racist for this, not that I mention anything about their skin colour or anything else racially relating to them. I would think a word like 'Culturalist' might be more apt, though I know I'm not that either. I guess ignorant Western Imperialists like Darkhall67 - you know, they are like the USA -> the one of only two nations on the planet still practicing Maths in the Imperial system rather than the more International and Global 'Metric' system. (no wonder the USA economy is in the shi t again.) Nippon/Nipponese: is the highest standard of description that the people of Nippon use. Nihon/Nihonese: is the more casual expression. Japan/Japanese: is another Western mis-use of description, somewhat arrogant in their continual use of the word. No wonder the Nipponese hardly pay attention to what the Western world has to say. But who would if your name was Dave and someone calls you Shirley. ::) As for the word "Nip", besides the fact its "how you use the word" rather than the word itself. Its like saying nobody is allowed to call 'Australians' "Aussies" or New Zealanders "Kiwis". Dare I even mention that the West Africans 'invented' the concept of Slavery, especially out of two nations like Niger & Nigeria - eh black person? Or that the Boers reffered to Kaffers because there really was a place called Khafferia that just happened to come up with Coffee as in Caffeine. Me thinks DarkHall67 is nothing but an ignorant BULLY from archaic Western Imperialism. ...also know as a TWAT. ;D He probably read Australian Newspapers that spell things like Jail, rather than Gaol. ::)

Talk about cultural imperialism.

You think because you've met a few japanese people who you think " feel flattered that I would call them by their proper title." that you know all there is to know.

well from MY experience of living here in Tokyo for the past 11 years those japanese people were either probably unaware that you were trying to be a smartarse by calling them "nipponese" and "nips" or aware of the fact but in their effort to maintain social harmony and avoid any confrontation just smiled and saidf what you wanted to hear.

My bet is on the trying to maintain social harmony because they are very good at "reading" the atmosphere and tone , something that you are obviously NOT very good at.

And by saying you cant be racist because you would like to "visit tokyo one day and see some sumo" really shows how oblivious you are.


Dont bother coming to Tokyo.

We dont want you here.

Just because I Scuba Dive, doesn't mean I know everything
or
should devalue a non-diver's perspective of the act of Diving.

...its called "looking outside of the Square" (you boxhead).

Also, every 'Nipponese' person that I have met here in Australia,
be they Tourist
or Patient in the hospitals that I once worked
TAUGHT me this as the best way.

...and they are not the only people to 'correct' me upon the real title/name beyond the Anglicised versions of their countries.

Like I said, "so what" that you are in Nippon doesn't make 'YOU' the expert in the slightest. Its amazing how many people can be where they are but they just can't see whats right in front of them. ::)

I think you could be swimming amongst Orca's and still think they are Killer Whales. ::) Darkhalldays67

... wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:11pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 12:07pm: ... wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 11:18am: darkhall67 wrote on Mar 17th, 2011 at 7:57pm: Despite what you think , the term "nips" is offensive and racist. And they are not "nipponese". They are "japanese". Any other term used to describe them is for the purpose of belittling and insulting. So says the gwai lo. That's Chinese. But all those little asian fellows are the same arent they? Oh well whatever. doesn't really change the point that it's silly for a honky to claim that 'nips' is offensive. Perhaps you should let the nips speak for themslves eh?  Or do they need their big white protector to speak on their behalf?

And it seems like wesleypipes subscribes to Humpty Dumptys philosophy on words and their meanings.


"`When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.'"



Forget about what the word ACTUALLY means.

It's what wesleypipes THINKS it means is what matters.

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:28pm:

Just because I Scuba Dive, doesn't mean I know everything or should devalue a non-diver's perspective of the act of Diving. ...its called "looking outside of the Square" (you boxhead). Also, every 'Nipponese' person that I have met here in Australia, be they Tourist or Patient in the hospitals that I once worked TAUGHT me this as the best way. ...and they are not the only people to 'correct' me upon the real title/name beyond the Anglicised versions of their countries. Like I said, "so what" that you are in Nippon (I once had a model boat called the 'Nippon Maru'), doesn't make 'YOU' the expert in the slightest. Its amazing how many people can be where they are but they just can't see whats right in front of them. ::) I think you could be swimming amongst Orca's ans still think they are Killer Whales. ::) Darkhalldays67

Totally oblivious.

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:29pm:

... wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 12:11pm: darkhall67 wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 12:07pm: ... wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 11:18am: darkhall67 wrote on Mar 17th, 2011 at 7:57pm: Despite what you think , the term "nips" is offensive and racist. And they are not "nipponese". They are "japanese". Any other term used to describe them is for the purpose of belittling and insulting. So says the gwai lo. That's Chinese. But all those little asian fellows are the same arent they? Oh well whatever. doesn't really change the point that it's silly for a honky to claim that 'nips' is offensive. Perhaps you should let the nips speak for themslves eh?  Or do they need their big white protector to speak on their behalf? And it seems like wesleypipes subscribes to Humpty Dumptys philosophy on words and their meanings. "`When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.'" Forget about what the word ACTUALLY means. It's what wesleypipes THINKS it means is what matters.

Well what the word ACTUALLY means, is a reference to nippon, ie the nipponese word for japan.
So whats the problem honky?

DarkHallDays69er:
Totally Archaic Colonial Westernised Imperialist that has gone past the 'use by' date of 'arrogance'.

... wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:11pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 12:07pm: ... wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 11:18am: darkhall67 wrote on Mar 17th, 2011 at 7:57pm: Despite what you think , the term "nips" is offensive and racist. And they are not "nipponese". They are "japanese". Any other term used to describe them is for the purpose of belittling and insulting. So says the gwai lo. That's Chinese. But all those little asian fellows are the same arent they? Oh well whatever. doesn't really change the point that it's silly for a honky to claim that 'nips' is offensive. Perhaps you should let the nips speak for themslves eh?  Or do they need their big white protector to speak on their behalf?

You're thinking of gaijin.

Japanese people wouldn't usually take offense any more than we would. They'd laugh it off, politely of course. From a socio economic perspective, they are little different to us.

In a way, the Japanese are to Asia as the Italians are to Europe.   They have a certain flair and are a tad racy at times.

GAIJIN!  That's the one...Both start with G, both have 6 letters.  I was close.

... wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:31pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 12:29pm: ... wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 12:11pm: darkhall67 wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 12:07pm: ... wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 11:18am: darkhall67 wrote on Mar 17th, 2011 at 7:57pm: Despite what you think , the term "nips" is offensive and racist. And they are not "nipponese". They are "japanese". Any other term used to describe them is for the purpose of belittling and insulting. So says the gwai lo. That's Chinese. But all those little asian fellows are the same arent they? Oh well whatever. doesn't really change the point that it's silly for a honky to claim that 'nips' is offensive. Perhaps you should let the nips speak for themslves eh?  Or do they need their big white protector to speak on their behalf? And it seems like wesleypipes subscribes to Humpty Dumptys philosophy on words and their meanings. "`When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.'" Forget about what the word ACTUALLY means. It's what wesleypipes THINKS it means is what matters. Well what the word ACTUALLY means, is a reference to nippon, ie the nipponese word for japan. So whats the problem honky?

So now you're trying to backpedal by pretending it's "nipponese" you're talking about and not "nips".

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:32pm:

DarkHallDays69er: Totally Archaic Colonial Westernised Imperialist that has gone past the 'use by' date of 'arrogance'.

Completely oblivious.

Maybe I should go live in Zimbabwe and call them Rhodesians ::)

Or Sri Lanka and call it Ceylon

Or Myanmar and call it Burma

and other nations with Anglocised names.

Even Anglophiled Wikipedia calls Nippon "a word used for Japan" ::)

>>> I think i'll keep calling a Spade a Spade.

"Neal Stephenson aside, the only period when "Nipponese" was used widely was World War II, when Japan was officially known as the Dai Nippon Teikoku or "Great Nipponese Empire," and always referred to itself as such.
"Nipponese" was chosen over "Nihonese" or "Japanese" because it sounded tougher (I am not making this up). Of course, that ended pretty quickly when American GI's got a hold of the word and transformed it into "Nip," the preferred derogatory slang for the Japanese during the war. After the war, the Japanese mysteriously stopped using "Nippon" in English: now you mostly find it in abbreviations like ANA, NTT, and NHK.

The official name of Japan today is Nippon Koku, "State of Nippon," and the word "Nippon" appears in romaji on its postage stamps. Nihon is the preferred Japanese term for referring to Japan without specifically referring to the government. Only the worst of Japanology's pedants continue to use "Nipponese" in conversation or writing, but they're out there."


http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=89499&lastnode_id=0

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:37pm:

... wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 12:31pm: darkhall67 wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 12:29pm: ... wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 12:11pm: darkhall67 wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 12:07pm: ... wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 11:18am: darkhall67 wrote on Mar 17th, 2011 at 7:57pm: Despite what you think , the term "nips" is offensive and racist. And they are not "nipponese". They are "japanese". Any other term used to describe them is for the purpose of belittling and insulting. So says the gwai lo. That's Chinese. But all those little asian fellows are the same arent they? Oh well whatever. doesn't really change the point that it's silly for a honky to claim that 'nips' is offensive. Perhaps you should let the nips speak for themslves eh?  Or do they need their big white protector to speak on their behalf? And it seems like wesleypipes subscribes to Humpty Dumptys philosophy on words and their meanings. "`When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.'" Forget about what the word ACTUALLY means. It's what wesleypipes THINKS it means is what matters. Well what the word ACTUALLY means, is a reference to nippon, ie the nipponese word for japan. So whats the problem honky? So now you're trying to backpedal by pretending it's "nipponese" you're talking about and not "nips".

Err no...but I don't find abbreviations 'offensive'.  Should I be as precious as you and claim that being called an 'aussie' is offensive?

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:51pm:

Maybe I should go live in Zimbabwe and call them Rhodesians ::) Or Sri Lanka and call it Ceylon Or Myanmar and call it Burma and other nations with Anglocised names. Even Anglophiled Wikipedia calls Nippon "a word used for Japan" ::) >>> I think i'll keep calling a Spade a Spade.

No-one is claiming that "Nihon " and its variant "Nippon" is not the name of Japan in the japanese language.

However the suffix "ese" is english. The english word for japan is JAPAN.


therefore the english term for people who live in japan is "japanese".



If you really want to call the japanese people what they call themselves the call them "Nihonjin".

Not "nipponese" and NEVER "nips"

... wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 12:55pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 12:37pm: ... wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 12:31pm: darkhall67 wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 12:29pm: ... wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 12:11pm: darkhall67 wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 12:07pm: ... wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 11:18am: darkhall67 wrote on Mar 17th, 2011 at 7:57pm: Despite what you think , the term "nips" is offensive and racist. And they are not "nipponese". They are "japanese". Any other term used to describe them is for the purpose of belittling and insulting. So says the gwai lo. That's Chinese. But all those little asian fellows are the same arent they? Oh well whatever. doesn't really change the point that it's silly for a honky to claim that 'nips' is offensive. Perhaps you should let the nips speak for themslves eh?  Or do they need their big white protector to speak on their behalf? And it seems like wesleypipes subscribes to Humpty Dumptys philosophy on words and their meanings. "`When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.'" Forget about what the word ACTUALLY means. It's what wesleypipes THINKS it means is what matters. Well what the word ACTUALLY means, is a reference to nippon, ie the nipponese word for japan. So whats the problem honky? So now you're trying to backpedal by pretending it's "nipponese" you're talking about and not "nips". Err no...but I don't find abbreviations 'offensive'.  Should I be as precious as you and claim that being called an 'aussie' is offensive?

Oh no not this old chestnut.

It's not about "abbreviations" or about nicknames for nationalities.

It's about OFFENSIVE nicknames.



Do some research humpty.

I promise to do some research, if you promise to harden up and stop parading moral superiority by pretending to find offense in everything, especially things that don't apply to you.

Deal?

I 'personally' agree with you upon the word "Nihon" as it does seem the most middle-classed or common.
I'm not afraid to admit I'm wrong - but I am right to some degree.
In fact, it looks like we might be BOTH WRONG (don't make a right).

Well then it appears so 'edu-ma-cation' is in session for all of us.
Now will someone please change those silly Atlas's to project the rightful names of nations and peoples.

...and please don't call me an "Aussie" you RACISTS!!!
I think the people of Nippon, I mean Nihonjin
need to get tougher skin though and HTFU !
::) ;D

... wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 1:01pm:

I promise to do some research, if you promise to harden up and stop parading moral superiority by pretending to find offense in everything, especially things that don't apply to you. Deal?

Sorry to disappoint you but I dont find offense in everything.


Just offensive things.



"Nips" is offensive.

Full stop.



No matter what you thought .


No matter what you think when you use the word.


It's offensive.





Oh and by the way , if you dont use offensive racist terms then that automatically makes you morally superior to the people who do.

yeah OK, so gaijin darkhall is personally offended by other people (not himself) being referred to as nips.

In the spirit of feigned offense, I hereby declare that I find being referred to as 'caucasian' HIGHLY offensive.  I've never even been to caucasia.....

Personally, I think if someone is so precious as to be offended by something so benign, I don't really give a toss what they think.

Hold on.
You stand by the 'Western/Anglocised' word of Japan (and Japs)
then condemn us here in Australia
-> a nation that has traditionally always 'shortened' words like
"Good Day" to "G'day", etc
for shortening the Pre-WW2 'formal' title of Nippon (which would be the CORRECT title if you do want to be 'formal' in you manner of 'behaviour' and 'respect')
...to Nips.

... wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 1:09pm:

yeah OK, so gaijin darkhall is personally offended by other people (not himself) being referred to as nips. In the spirit of feigned offense, I hereby declare that I find being referred to as 'caucasian' HIGHLY offensive.  I've never even been to caucasia..... Personally, I think if someone is so precious as to be offended by something so benign, I don't really give a toss what they think.

Non sequitur.

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 1:09pm:

Hold on. You stand by the 'Western/Anglocised' word of Japan (and Japs) then condemn us here in Australia -> a nation that has traditionally always 'shortened' words like "Good Day" to "G'day", etc for shortening the Pre-WW2 'formal' title of Nippon (which would be the CORRECT title if you do want to be 'formal' in you manner of 'behaviour' and 'respect') ...to Nips.

Oh for buggers sake.

It isnt about abbreviations.

Where's Soren and his collection of World Maps that show the true/correct/appropriate 'National' titles free of Anglo/Westernised bias and ignorance?

Its amazing how many Fair, Light & Pale skinned Rangas, Blueys and Ockers get called 'White' too.

Please don't call me Causcasian, I find that offensive and I've never been to Caucasia anyway =  ;D ;D ;D


Me thinks DarkHall67 is one of those people who calls Oceania here as Australasia too (just to be Americanly correct).

... wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 1:09pm:

yeah OK, so gaijin darkhall is personally offended by other people (not himself) being referred to as nips. .

Yeah its a bad character flaw of mine.


I get offended when i hear other people (not myself) being referred to as "n1ggers" , "spades" "spicks" "abos" "c0ons" etc



If only there was some sort of program i could follow to cure me of this malady and make me a better person.

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 1:12pm:

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 1:09pm: Hold on. You stand by the 'Western/Anglocised' word of Japan (and Japs) then condemn us here in Australia -> a nation that has traditionally always 'shortened' words like "Good Day" to "G'day", etc for shortening the Pre-WW2 'formal' title of Nippon (which would be the CORRECT title if you do want to be 'formal' in you manner of 'behaviour' and 'respect') ...to Nips. Oh for buggers sake. It isnt about abbreviations.

Nor is it about nips finding offense in the word 'nip'
What it's REALLY about is a fella claiming moral high ground by speaking out for those poor, inferior nipponese fellas, who need their great white hope to stick up for them.

... wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 1:18pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 1:12pm: It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 1:09pm: Hold on. You stand by the 'Western/Anglocised' word of Japan (and Japs) then condemn us here in Australia -> a nation that has traditionally always 'shortened' words like "Good Day" to "G'day", etc for shortening the Pre-WW2 'formal' title of Nippon (which would be the CORRECT title if you do want to be 'formal' in you manner of 'behaviour' and 'respect') ...to Nips. Oh for buggers sake. It isnt about abbreviations. Nor is it about nips finding offense in the word 'nip' What it's REALLY about is a fella claiming moral high ground by speaking out for those poor, inferior nipponese fellas, who need their great white hope to stick up for them.

Yeah its a bad character flaw of mine.


I get offended when i hear other people (not myself) being referred to as "n1ggers" , "spades" "spicks" "abos" "c0ons" etc



If only there was some sort of program i could follow to cure me of this malady and make me a better person.

Yes and we get offended when people like you Darkhall67
take us 'out of context'
when we use those words.

Example: New guy at work (looks more Anglo than Abo), feigns obliviousness at a 'twat worker' who tells a 'coon' joke.
The new guy does the right thing and reports such 'offence' to the head office, of whom the woman is affectionately referred to by her son'law as "Boong Biatch" in the name of 'humour' rather than insult.
The new guy admits he isn't offended and the joke was funny, but he could tell the other guy was a twat worker and just wanted to teach him a lesson, because the guy was making the joke for insult rather than praise.

So you see - When I say "I wish all the Nips of Nippon the best of luck under such trying conditions." It is said with much goodwill, rather than insult. If I said "Hope the Nips suffer!" then the obvious is made.
So sticks and stones Darkhall67,
but we are more closer to the truth
here in Australia
than you are there in Nippon.
8-)

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 1:24pm:

Yes and we get offended when people like you Darkhall67 take us 'out of context' when we use those words. Example: New guy at work (looks more Anglo than Abo), feigns obliviousness at a 'twat worker' who tells a 'black person' joke. The new guy does the right thing and reports such 'offence' to the head office, of whom the woman is affectionately referred to by her son'law as "Boong Biatch" in the name of 'humour' rather than insult. The new guy admits he isn't offended and the joke was funny, but he could tell the other guy was a twat worker and just wanted to teach him a lesson, because the guy was making the joke for insult rather than praise. So you see - When I say "I wish all the Nips of Nippon the best of luck under such trying conditions." It is said with much goodwill, rather than insult. If I said "Hope the Nips suffer!" then the obvious is made. So sticks and stones Darkhall67, but we are more closer to the truth here in Australia than you are there in Nippon. 8-)

yep, it's about tone and context, rather than the word itself.

Anything can be made to sound offensive if you say it in an offensive tone, hence why 'black person' can be an affectionate term - 'whattup ma black person' or an insult.

Nip
Nip
Nip
Nip
Nip
Nip
Nip
Nip
Nip
Nip
Nip
Nip
Nip
Nip
Nip

But hey, we all know that so-called USA Politically Correctness (unlike United Nations Correctness) has now changed the word "Booty" form being a cache of treasure to the buttock region of a woman. ::) You tell me who is calling the shots? That 'Champion' of Racial oppression called Obama ::) or Khofi Annan who led the WORLD long before him??

... wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 1:27pm:

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 1:24pm: Yes and we get offended when people like you Darkhall67 take us 'out of context' when we use those words. Example: New guy at work (looks more Anglo than Abo), feigns obliviousness at a 'twat worker' who tells a 'black person' joke. The new guy does the right thing and reports such 'offence' to the head office, of whom the woman is affectionately referred to by her son'law as "Boong Biatch" in the name of 'humour' rather than insult. The new guy admits he isn't offended and the joke was funny, but he could tell the other guy was a twat worker and just wanted to teach him a lesson, because the guy was making the joke for insult rather than praise. So you see - When I say "I wish all the Nips of Nippon the best of luck under such trying conditions." It is said with much goodwill, rather than insult. If I said "Hope the Nips suffer!" then the obvious is made. So sticks and stones Darkhall67, but we are more closer to the truth here in Australia than you are there in Nippon. 8-) yep, it's about tone and context, rather than the word itself. Anything can be made to sound offensive if you say it in an offensive tone, hence why 'black person' can be an affectionate term - 'whattup ma black person' or an insult.

No it's not.



"Nips" is offensive.



I'll leave you humpty dumptys mavens of the engish language to congratulate each other on how enlightened , knowledgeable , inoffensive and intelligent you are .

This Topic has voided into obscurity -
I'll rest my case by continuing to say Nip/Nippon/Nipponese
rather than the USA/UK "Japan"etc.
I'll work upon "nihon" etc though.

Darkhall67, you are not alone - it seems all the other 'expatriot' non-nipponese, people in Nippon or having have lived in Nippon,
consider me a 'Racist' for using the word Nippon because I am not a 'pious' example of that nation like they are  ::)

The End.

Japan = USA World War victory propaganda  :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnG1vqVlPGE&NR=1&feature=fvwp

you'll be amazed how many "experts of Japan" consider this song an 'offensive' un-pollitically correct act.
::)


...hence why I take my 'political' ways from the United Nations,
not the Anglo-Saxon Empire of the USA/UK and its Australian Mercenaries.

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 1:32pm:

... wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 1:27pm: It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 1:24pm: Yes and we get offended when people like you Darkhall67 take us 'out of context' when we use those words. Example: New guy at work (looks more Anglo than Abo), feigns obliviousness at a 'twat worker' who tells a 'black person' joke. The new guy does the right thing and reports such 'offence' to the head office, of whom the woman is affectionately referred to by her son'law as "Boong Biatch" in the name of 'humour' rather than insult. The new guy admits he isn't offended and the joke was funny, but he could tell the other guy was a twat worker and just wanted to teach him a lesson, because the guy was making the joke for insult rather than praise. So you see - When I say "I wish all the Nips of Nippon the best of luck under such trying conditions." It is said with much goodwill, rather than insult. If I said "Hope the Nips suffer!" then the obvious is made. So sticks and stones Darkhall67, but we are more closer to the truth here in Australia than you are there in Nippon. 8-) yep, it's about tone and context, rather than the word itself. Anything can be made to sound offensive if you say it in an offensive tone, hence why 'black person' can be an affectionate term - 'whattup ma black person' or an insult. No it's not. "Nips" is offensive. I'll leave you humpty dumptys mavens of the engish language to congratulate each other on how enlightened , knowledgeable , inoffensive and intelligent you are .

Who says it's offensive?  Somehow, I get the impression you, like all PC clowns, have just taken it upon yourself to assume that people of all walks of life subscribe to the same bogus ideology as you, and need you to speak on their behalf.  Not everyone is that precious, thank Zeus.

... wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 1:38pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 1:32pm: ... wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 1:27pm: It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 1:24pm: Yes and we get offended when people like you Darkhall67 take us 'out of context' when we use those words. Example: New guy at work (looks more Anglo than Abo), feigns obliviousness at a 'twat worker' who tells a 'black person' joke. The new guy does the right thing and reports such 'offence' to the head office, of whom the woman is affectionately referred to by her son'law as "Boong Biatch" in the name of 'humour' rather than insult. The new guy admits he isn't offended and the joke was funny, but he could tell the other guy was a twat worker and just wanted to teach him a lesson, because the guy was making the joke for insult rather than praise. So you see - When I say "I wish all the Nips of Nippon the best of luck under such trying conditions." It is said with much goodwill, rather than insult. If I said "Hope the Nips suffer!" then the obvious is made. So sticks and stones Darkhall67, but we are more closer to the truth here in Australia than you are there in Nippon. 8-) yep, it's about tone and context, rather than the word itself. Anything can be made to sound offensive if you say it in an offensive tone, hence why 'black person' can be an affectionate term - 'whattup ma black person' or an insult. No it's not. "Nips" is offensive. I'll leave you humpty dumptys mavens of the engish language to congratulate each other on how enlightened , knowledgeable , inoffensive and intelligent you are . Who says it's offensive?  Somehow, I get the impression you, like all PC clowns, have just taken it upon yourself to assume that people of all walks of life subscribe to the same bogus ideology as you, and need you to speak on their behalf.  Not everyone is that precious, thank Zeus.

So know you are using my signature phrase "thank zeus"?



thief

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 1:37pm:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnG1vqVlPGE&NR=1&feature=fvwp you'll be amazed how many "experts of Japan" consider this song an 'offensive' un-pollitically correct act. ::) ...hence why I take my 'political' ways from the United Nations, not the Anglo-Saxon Empire of the USA/UK and its Australian Mercenaries.

One of my favourite australian songs.


But you do know it's got nothing to do with the japanese though dont you?

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 1:41pm:

... wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 1:38pm: darkhall67 wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 1:32pm: ... wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 1:27pm: It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 1:24pm: Yes and we get offended when people like you Darkhall67 take us 'out of context' when we use those words. Example: New guy at work (looks more Anglo than Abo), feigns obliviousness at a 'twat worker' who tells a 'black person' joke. The new guy does the right thing and reports such 'offence' to the head office, of whom the woman is affectionately referred to by her son'law as "Boong Biatch" in the name of 'humour' rather than insult. The new guy admits he isn't offended and the joke was funny, but he could tell the other guy was a twat worker and just wanted to teach him a lesson, because the guy was making the joke for insult rather than praise. So you see - When I say "I wish all the Nips of Nippon the best of luck under such trying conditions." It is said with much goodwill, rather than insult. If I said "Hope the Nips suffer!" then the obvious is made. So sticks and stones Darkhall67, but we are more closer to the truth here in Australia than you are there in Nippon. 8-) yep, it's about tone and context, rather than the word itself. Anything can be made to sound offensive if you say it in an offensive tone, hence why 'black person' can be an affectionate term - 'whattup ma black person' or an insult. No it's not. "Nips" is offensive. I'll leave you humpty dumptys mavens of the engish language to congratulate each other on how enlightened , knowledgeable , inoffensive and intelligent you are . Who says it's offensive?  Somehow, I get the impression you, like all PC clowns, have just taken it upon yourself to assume that people of all walks of life subscribe to the same bogus ideology as you, and need you to speak on their behalf.  Not everyone is that precious, thank Zeus. So know you are using my signature phrase "thank zeus"? thief

hahahhaaaaaaaaaa....I don't see your name on it!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

... wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 1:38pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 1:32pm: ... wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 1:27pm: It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 1:24pm: Yes and we get offended when people like you Darkhall67 take us 'out of context' when we use those words. Example: New guy at work (looks more Anglo than Abo), feigns obliviousness at a 'twat worker' who tells a 'black person' joke. The new guy does the right thing and reports such 'offence' to the head office, of whom the woman is affectionately referred to by her son'law as "Boong Biatch" in the name of 'humour' rather than insult. The new guy admits he isn't offended and the joke was funny, but he could tell the other guy was a twat worker and just wanted to teach him a lesson, because the guy was making the joke for insult rather than praise. So you see - When I say "I wish all the Nips of Nippon the best of luck under such trying conditions." It is said with much goodwill, rather than insult. If I said "Hope the Nips suffer!" then the obvious is made. So sticks and stones Darkhall67, but we are more closer to the truth here in Australia than you are there in Nippon. 8-) yep, it's about tone and context, rather than the word itself. Anything can be made to sound offensive if you say it in an offensive tone, hence why 'black person' can be an affectionate term - 'whattup ma black person' or an insult. No it's not. "Nips" is offensive. I'll leave you humpty dumptys mavens of the engish language to congratulate each other on how enlightened , knowledgeable , inoffensive and intelligent you are . Who says it's offensive?  Somehow, I get the impression you, like all PC clowns, have just taken it upon yourself to assume that people of all walks of life subscribe to the same bogus ideology as you, and need you to speak on their behalf.  Not everyone is that precious, thank Zeus.

Who says it's offensive?


Every english dictionary known to man.

But you know better , dont you?

... wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 1:43pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 1:41pm: ... wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 1:38pm: darkhall67 wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 1:32pm: ... wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 1:27pm: It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 1:24pm: Yes and we get offended when people like you Darkhall67 take us 'out of context' when we use those words. Example: New guy at work (looks more Anglo than Abo), feigns obliviousness at a 'twat worker' who tells a 'black person' joke. The new guy does the right thing and reports such 'offence' to the head office, of whom the woman is affectionately referred to by her son'law as "Boong Biatch" in the name of 'humour' rather than insult. The new guy admits he isn't offended and the joke was funny, but he could tell the other guy was a twat worker and just wanted to teach him a lesson, because the guy was making the joke for insult rather than praise. So you see - When I say "I wish all the Nips of Nippon the best of luck under such trying conditions." It is said with much goodwill, rather than insult. If I said "Hope the Nips suffer!" then the obvious is made. So sticks and stones Darkhall67, but we are more closer to the truth here in Australia than you are there in Nippon. 8-) yep, it's about tone and context, rather than the word itself. Anything can be made to sound offensive if you say it in an offensive tone, hence why 'black person' can be an affectionate term - 'whattup ma black person' or an insult. No it's not. "Nips" is offensive. I'll leave you humpty dumptys mavens of the engish language to congratulate each other on how enlightened , knowledgeable , inoffensive and intelligent you are . Who says it's offensive?  Somehow, I get the impression you, like all PC clowns, have just taken it upon yourself to assume that people of all walks of life subscribe to the same bogus ideology as you, and need you to speak on their behalf.  Not everyone is that precious, thank Zeus. So know you are using my signature phrase "thank zeus"? thief hahahhaaaaaaaaaa....I don't see your name on it! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

How do you know my name isnt "Zeus"?

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 1:44pm:

... wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 1:38pm: darkhall67 wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 1:32pm: ... wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 1:27pm: It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 1:24pm: Yes and we get offended when people like you Darkhall67 take us 'out of context' when we use those words. Example: New guy at work (looks more Anglo than Abo), feigns obliviousness at a 'twat worker' who tells a 'black person' joke. The new guy does the right thing and reports such 'offence' to the head office, of whom the woman is affectionately referred to by her son'law as "Boong Biatch" in the name of 'humour' rather than insult. The new guy admits he isn't offended and the joke was funny, but he could tell the other guy was a twat worker and just wanted to teach him a lesson, because the guy was making the joke for insult rather than praise. So you see - When I say "I wish all the Nips of Nippon the best of luck under such trying conditions." It is said with much goodwill, rather than insult. If I said "Hope the Nips suffer!" then the obvious is made. So sticks and stones Darkhall67, but we are more closer to the truth here in Australia than you are there in Nippon. 8-) yep, it's about tone and context, rather than the word itself. Anything can be made to sound offensive if you say it in an offensive tone, hence why 'black person' can be an affectionate term - 'whattup ma black person' or an insult. No it's not. "Nips" is offensive. I'll leave you humpty dumptys mavens of the engish language to congratulate each other on how enlightened , knowledgeable , inoffensive and intelligent you are . Who says it's offensive?  Somehow, I get the impression you, like all PC clowns, have just taken it upon yourself to assume that people of all walks of life subscribe to the same bogus ideology as you, and need you to speak on their behalf.  Not everyone is that precious, thank Zeus. Who says it's offensive? Every english dictionary known to man. But you know better , dont you?

Surely what 'the english' think doesn't matter.

Surely we should leave it to the nips to decide?  Or does whitey always know best?  ;)

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 1:32pm:

... wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 1:27pm: It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 1:24pm: Yes and we get offended when people like you Darkhall67 take us 'out of context' when we use those words. Example: New guy at work (looks more Anglo than Abo), feigns obliviousness at a 'twat worker' who tells a 'black person' joke. The new guy does the right thing and reports such 'offence' to the head office, of whom the woman is affectionately referred to by her son'law as "Boong Biatch" in the name of 'humour' rather than insult. The new guy admits he isn't offended and the joke was funny, but he could tell the other guy was a twat worker and just wanted to teach him a lesson, because the guy was making the joke for insult rather than praise. So you see - When I say "I wish all the Nips of Nippon the best of luck under such trying conditions." It is said with much goodwill, rather than insult. If I said "Hope the Nips suffer!" then the obvious is made. So sticks and stones Darkhall67, but we are more closer to the truth here in Australia than you are there in Nippon. 8-) yep, it's about tone and context, rather than the word itself. Anything can be made to sound offensive if you say it in an offensive tone, hence why 'black person' can be an affectionate term - 'whattup ma black person' or an insult. No it's not. "Nips" is offensive. I'll leave you humpty dumptys mavens of the engish language to congratulate each other on how enlightened , knowledgeable , inoffensive and intelligent you are .

'Nips' was an abbreviation of the Japanese's own name for themselves used by Allied service personnel in WW2....

Nippon is actually the native name for Japan....

Same as 'Yank' for an American (it was originally a reference to someone from the Northern States in the Civil War), and Pom for an English man..

gizmo_2655 wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 1:46pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 1:32pm: ... wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 1:27pm: It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Mar 18th, 2011 at 1:24pm: Yes and we get offended when people like you Darkhall67 take us 'out of context' when we use those words. Example: New guy at work (looks more Anglo than Abo), feigns obliviousness at a 'twat worker' who tells a 'black person' joke. The new guy does the right thing and reports such 'offence' to the head office, of whom the woman is affectionately referred to by her son'law as "Boong Biatch" in the name of 'humour' rather than insult. The new guy admits he isn't offended and the joke was funny, but he could tell the other guy was a twat worker and just wanted to teach him a lesson, because the guy was making the joke for insult rather than praise. So you see - When I say "I wish all the Nips of Nippon the best of luck under such trying conditions." It is said with much goodwill, rather than insult. If I said "Hope the Nips suffer!" then the obvious is made. So sticks and stones Darkhall67, but we are more closer to the truth here in Australia than you are there in Nippon. 8-) yep, it's about tone and context, rather than the word itself. Anything can be made to sound offensive if you say it in an offensive tone, hence why 'black person' can be an affectionate term - 'whattup ma black person' or an insult. No it's not. "Nips" is offensive. I'll leave you humpty dumptys mavens of the engish language to congratulate each other on how enlightened , knowledgeable , inoffensive and intelligent you are . 'Nips' was an abbreviation of the Japanese's own name for themselves used by Allied service personnel in WW2.... Nippon is actually the native name for Japan.... Same as 'Yank' for an American (it was originally a reference to someone from the Northern States in the Civil War), and Pom for an English man..

Read the previous 3 pages gizmo

The song is about 'alcohol'.

But many 'piously correct' do think otherwise just because of that word.
...they don't like the 'sound' of it.


All in all.
I think the United Nations should bring out their own Atlas, rather than these Collins and Oxford versions that fail to adhere to rightful descriptions.

Who knows - when the Australian Flag is forced to change (because the UK takes back its Union Jack ;)), maybe we can have a more 'appropriate' name other than a Latin "South Land"  :P

Yes darkhall, and????

How is the word offensive when it's a shortened version of the native language word for the people you think are offended????

gizmo_2655 wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 1:51pm:

Yes darkhall, and???? How is the word offensive when it's a shortened version of the native language word for the people you think are offended????

It is a word used in a derogatory way.

Always was .


It doesnt matter the derivation.

Not here in Australia 'mate',
unless you're an ass-kissin American Australian.
Even then, I very much doubt I would be condemned by the Nips for saying so, except by 'embarressed' ex-patriots like yourself.

...I guess its all about 'trust'. ;)

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 2:01pm:

Not here in Australia 'mate', unless you're an ass-kissin American Australian. Even then, I very much doubt I would be condemned by the Nips for saying so, except by 'embarressed' ex-patriots like yourself. ...I guess its all about 'trust'. ;)

We australians use  the word "arse" .

Not the american "ass"

No sh it ::)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAr8gQRtCoo&feature=related
;D

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Mar 18^th, 2011 at 2:01pm:

Not here in Australia 'mate', unless you're an ass-kissin American Australian. Even then, I very much doubt I would be condemned by the Nips for saying so, except by 'embarressed' ex-patriots like yourself. ...I guess its all about 'trust'. ;)

Let's do a little thought experiment.


Let's imagine that a newly discovered tribe deep in the african jungle is discovered.


You and a few other people are the first ones to have any contact with them.

You find them friendly and trusting and generous.


Then one of your number starts saying things like;

"jeez these n1ggers are friendly"

"Look at that n1gger.   What's that n1gger doing?"

" geez louise these n1ggers know how to throw a party"


And the african tribe is all smiles because they dont understand the word.



Would YOU be embarrassed?

Would you tell him not to use that word?

Alas for your 'thought experiment'
the word 'N1gger' (1 used for the sake of editing)
was a word 'adopted' by other peoples not from West Africa,
specifically Niger & Nigeria
as taught to them by the people of
Niger & Nigeria.

The use of the word "N1gger" by 'white-Americans'
was used in a vitriolic way during early American 'Political' History
to discredit and demean any 'black' West African,
who by majority
was sent to America as 'slaves' as sold by their own leaders,
because 'slavery' was 'invented' by the West Africans and "popularised" by the various Arab nations, who took it to the world.

Thankfully bands like NWA (N1iggers with Attitude) put the word back into context so African-Americans "own" their own word.

If I was spat the word "Aussie" to demean me in another country, say Chile, then I would find the word 'hurtful' and come to 'resent' the word "Aussie" and eventually (once liberated) find the word a valuable tool to 'empower' myself over the speaker in an act of retribution, etc, etc, etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jy6Nebd_e0&feature=related

Don't let the USA "perception",
let alone the
"Western" perception
provide you with the 'only' way to look at the
WHOLE WORLD.
But don't ignore the USA/Western way either.

I'm prepared to 'rest this case' as one of those 'stalemate' situations.
I believe there are 8 distinct races emerging in the world today
so there is 8 right ways to living on this planet.

I mean, lets face it.
There are Gays and Rednecks
Yobbos and Wankers,

...so c'mon pal "Whatareya"  ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4vSEXvLsx0