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Title: "It's (from) the Tea Party, ... "
Post by Deathridesahorse on Mar 1^st, 2011 at 7:53pm

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Climate Change Minister Greg Combet yesterday said Opposition Leader Tony Abbott's prediction that the carbon tax would inspire a "people's revolt" was borrowed from the US.

"It's (from) the Tea Party, the far right of US politics," Mr Combet said.

source: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/breaking-news/caller-threatens-independent-mp-tony-windsor-over-carbon-tax/story-fn3dxity-1226014343772

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Post by Prevailing on Mar 1^st, 2011 at 8:59pm

No Combet - No Juliar - its from your boss - the Australian people - yeild to our will - no Carbon Tax - we are not the polluters - you are - war mongers too. :)

Hell No We wont Pay - KILL THE CARBON TAX! 8-)

Title: Re: "It's (from) the Tea Party, ... "
Post by Deathridesahorse on Mar 1^st, 2011 at 9:01pm

Prevailing wrote on Mar 1^st, 2011 at 8:59pm:

Tony is now arguing it's not about the climate it's about the tax!

He is such a time-waster! :D :D ;D

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Post by dsmithy70 on Mar 1^st, 2011 at 9:01pm

Prevailing wrote on Mar 1^st, 2011 at 8:59pm:

that was a great picture last night 8/10

Title: Re: "It's (from) the Tea Party, ... "
Post by buzzanddidj on Mar 1^st, 2011 at 9:34pm

But WAIT ...
There's MORE

Colin Barnett warns of 'Tea Party' GST revolt
February 24, 2011 7:55PM

WEST Australian Premier Colin Barnett has warned of a "Tea Party" style revolt in his state if the commonwealth doesn't offer a fairer deal on sharing GST revenue.

"I think the commonwealth, certainly at a public service level in Canberra, understands that basically you've got a Tea Party situation in Western Australia," Mr Barnett said.

"The Tea Party movement in the United States is basically a public revolt, if you like, against excessive taxation and regulation.

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/colin-barnett-warns-of-tea-party-gst-revolt/story-e6frfku0-1226011581391#ixzz1FLYKZkOJ

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Post by dsmithy70 on Mar 1^st, 2011 at 9:42pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Mar 1^st, 2011 at 9:34pm:

Well at least we know where the Abbott liberal party is getting its political advice from.
Seriously as my mum used to say,
"If America jumped off a cliff would you?"
It appears so where the liberals are concerned.

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Post by Prevailing on Mar 1^st, 2011 at 9:46pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 1^st, 2011 at 9:01pm:

Prevailing wrote on Mar 1^st, 2011 at 8:59pm:

that was a great picture last night 8/10

which one? :o

Title: Re: "It's (from) the Tea Party, ... "
Post by dsmithy70 on Mar 1^st, 2011 at 10:27pm

Prevailing wrote on Mar 1^st, 2011 at 9:46pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 1^st, 2011 at 9:01pm:

Prevailing wrote on Mar 1^st, 2011 at 8:59pm:

that was a great picture last night 8/10

which one? :o

the one in the graveyard, great backdrop, ironic even;D

Back to the topic
I predict we'll get a wink ;)out of Tone sometime within the next 4 weeks.

Title: Re: "It's (from) the Tea Party, ... "
Post by cods on Mar 2^nd, 2011 at 6:16am

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 1^st, 2011 at 10:27pm:

Prevailing wrote on Mar 1^st, 2011 at 9:46pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 1^st, 2011 at 9:01pm:

Prevailing wrote on Mar 1^st, 2011 at 8:59pm:

that was a great picture last night 8/10

which one? :o

the one in the graveyard, great backdrop, ironic even;D

Back to the topic
I predict we'll get a wink ;)out of Tone sometime within the next 4 weeks.

whats a wink smithy?.. please explain!

hey heard this morning Australia backs nasty things happening in Libya by the West... cant be we know the labs dont believ in WMD... yes someone actually mentioned WMD can you belive that..lol.. I told em they dont exist do they?

what is the topic btw?

I never did understand the Tea Party

Title: Re: "It's (from) the Tea Party, ... "
Post by dsmithy70 on Mar 2^nd, 2011 at 8:44am

cods wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2011 at 6:16am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 1^st, 2011 at 10:27pm:

Prevailing wrote on Mar 1^st, 2011 at 9:46pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 1^st, 2011 at 9:01pm:

Prevailing wrote on Mar 1^st, 2011 at 8:59pm:

that was a great picture last night 8/10

which one? :o

the one in the graveyard, great backdrop, ironic even;D

Back to the topic
I predict we'll get a wink ;)out of Tone sometime within the next 4 weeks.

Watch any Sarah Palin speech.
The wink is her way of being folksy with the crowd.

Haven't seen the libyan thing , do you have a link or know what paper its in?

Google Tea Party & you'll find all the information you desire :)

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Post by Andrei.Hicks on Mar 2^nd, 2011 at 10:48am

Smithy - I have had the benefit of watching a bit of C-Span the last few months and like with GWB (who spoke so well at our conference) the media portrayal of her is wrong and unfair.

She makes very good points and I find a lot of similarities with her on issues.

She loves America, she wants whats best for it, she believes in the free market, she believes in small Government, she believes in Reagan's vision for America, she believes in strong US foreign policy.

She like me, abhors Obama's vision on healthcare and taxes.

America needs less Government, not more.

When you have the Chairman of GMC calling Obama "one of the most arrogant men I have ever met" - and here we have a guy that has played golf with every President since Nixon - then we have a problem.

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Post by alevine on Mar 2^nd, 2011 at 11:01am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2011 at 10:48am:

I think you'll find it quite hard to find any politician these days in a democratic country who doesn't believe in free market or love their country, and want what's best for it. The key point is for the person to actually have a vision for the country and be smart enough to pull it off. Too bad she is as thick as a door knob. Like most nutter right wingers, of course.

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Post by Equitist on Mar 2^nd, 2011 at 11:06am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2011 at 10:48am:

LOL...yer, remind us how many of them were 'black' men arrogant enough to rise above their deservedly-lowly status to play golf with their natural masters - much less presume the right to lead the 'free world'!?

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Post by mozzaok on Mar 2^nd, 2011 at 11:10am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2011 at 11:01am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2011 at 10:48am:

Thick as a doorknob?
Not a term I have heard before, but I take your point, she is seriously stupid, in many areas, and while people bemoan her treatment by the non Fox media, nothing they say condemns her more, than the rubbish that spews from her own mouth.

Seriously thick?? Sure is.
Responsible option to lead the USA? Never.

Title: Re: "It's (from) the Tea Party, ... "
Post by Equitist on Mar 2^nd, 2011 at 11:13am

mozzaok wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2011 at 11:10am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2011 at 11:01am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2011 at 10:48am:

She's just as doGmatic and moronic as Bush was - which makes many regard her as the female equivalent of the ideal oxymoronic 'puppet leader'...

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Post by dsmithy70 on Mar 2^nd, 2011 at 11:21am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2011 at 10:48am:

Andrei their is no way I'm getting into a debate with anyone about Palin.
If the American public is that stupid then so be it & god help us all.
As for the GMC bloke do you think his opinion was swayed by the fact he just didn't get a blank cheque to prop up his ailing company ONCE AGAIN?
He like the car company's here...... oh hang on they are subsidiary of GMC.

Title: Re: "It's (from) the Tea Party, ... "
Post by Andrei.Hicks on Mar 2^nd, 2011 at 12:48pm

Never let it be said Republicans do not compromise smithy.....

The US House of Representatives has approved a measure to fund the US government for a further two weeks, avoiding a looming shut-down.

The bill from the Republican-led chamber would cut government spending by $4bn (£2.45bn) in that period.

It now goes to the US Senate, which has said it will pass the bill.

Funding for government operations was set to expire on Friday, as Democrats and Republicans have been unable to agree on a budget.

The bill passed in a 335-91 bipartisan vote.

It cuts into programmes that President Barack Obama had already proposed eliminating or trimming and opens a window of time for White House officials and Republican and Democratic leaders to negotiate on a budget to keep the government running until the end of the fiscal year on 30 September.

Economic impact

"We'll pass this and then look at funding the government on a long-term basis," Democratic Senate Leader Harry Reid of Nevada said on Tuesday.

At the White House, spokesman Jay Carney called on congressional leaders to approve a longer-term budget rather than keep negotiating a series of two-week budget deals.

"We do not believe would be helpful - in fact, we believe it would be harmful to the economy, and therefore, not something the American people would support - if we created a tollbooth where we are negotiating again and again on continuing resolutions to fund the government for two weeks or another short-term period," he said.

Republicans had been pressing for much more severe cuts, passing a bill last month that would have sliced $61bn from the federal budget by the end of the fiscal year.

But Democrats in the US Senate opposed that measure and Mr Obama vowed to veto it, saying the cuts would hinder economic growth and slash education, research and infrastructure spending too far.

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Post by dsmithy70 on Mar 2^nd, 2011 at 1:10pm

;D ;D ;D

Quote:

When told that Republican spending cuts could eliminate hundreds of thousands of jobs at a time when 25 million people are already in need of full-time work, House Speaker John Boehner said, "So be it."

This weekend, Boehner stated that it was simply "immoral" to leave deep debts to our children. That certainly is true. But Republicans in the House and governors under pressure across the country are planning deep cuts in areas that are vital to children -- in pre-K programs like Head Start, in infant nutrition, in health care, in funding for schools and teachers and in support for college. They are making these cuts after extending tax cuts to the richest 1 percent of Americans, who already capture 23 percent of the nation's income. It is unwise to talk about immorality when children are the leading victims of "so-be-it economics."

The demonstrations in Wisconsin -- where the governor hopes to use the crisis as an excuse to destroy unions and effectively eliminate the right to bargain collectively -- have exposed the political aims of conservative Republican governors. But too little attention is being paid to who is being asked to sacrifice as we struggle to get out of the worst recession since the Great Depression.

According to the Center on Budget and Priorities, of the 41 states that have released their initial budget proposals for next year -- covering 83 percent of the nation's population -- nearly all propose to spend less money than they spent in 2008, after adjusting for inflation, even though the cost of providing services is much higher. There will be more children in public schools, more students seeking admission to colleges and universities, more Medicaid enrollees, more people dependent on public health programs.

The majority of states are planning major cuts in basic public services. We're not talking fat here; we are talking bone and muscle and tendons. Sixteen states propose deep cuts in pre-K, grade school and high school spending. The Texas budget, for example, will eliminate pre-K funding for nearly 100,000 at risk children, more than 40 percent of the state's pre-K students. Twenty-three states have proposed deep cuts in health care. Ensconced in the Wisconsin governor's budget is a plan to cancel health insurance coverage for about 70,000 people. Fifteen states will make big cuts in higher education. Arizona will cut state support by 20 percent next year; when combined with previous cuts, it would reduce per student state spending by 46 percent below pre-recession levels.

Yet many of the new Republican governors are also proposing large tax cuts, mostly for corporations. Florida's new governor wants to cut the corporate income tax by 45 percent and eliminate it by 2018. New Jersey's newly fashionable conservative governor proposes to cut the minimum tax paid by corporations by 25 percent and increase the amount that can be bequeathed tax-free to heirs.

The cuts will have brutal effects on the economy. Last year, state and local governments lost 400,000 jobs -- and that was when the states still had support from the Obama recovery plan. This year, the cuts will be worse. These are cops, teachers, firefighters, judges and clerks, basic social services. Goldman Sachs, the Wall Street bank, estimates that the cuts voted on by Republicans could slice growth in half, to levels that don't keep up with people going into the job market. Veterans returning from battlegrounds overseas are headed into an economic battleground here at home that offers them few jobs and little hope.

We've all seen times when managers mess up and workers pay the penalty. Now, global banks and corporations blew up the economy, and children, cops and teachers are being asked to pay the price. This is a time to mobilize. "So be it" doesn't get it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rev-jesse-jackson/nothing-moral-about-devas_b_829687.html

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Post by mozzaok on Mar 2^nd, 2011 at 1:23pm

That can't be right Smithy, the ever responsible right wingers stripping huge amounts away from education, health and public spending, while reducing the taxes of the wealthiest individuals and corporations?
Surely it is a mistake?

Maybe they just are trying to use it as a motivational tool?
They may be training the american people to be hungry for success, by making them literally hungry?

Education is certainly something the right needs to attack, because they know full well that their support drops off dramatically amongst people with a tertiary education, those limp wristed lefties, reading too damned many books is their problem.

God bless america, the envy of right wing loons the world over.

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Post by Andrei.Hicks on Mar 2^nd, 2011 at 1:28pm

mozzaok wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2011 at 1:23pm:

Education is certainly something the right needs to attack, because they know full well that their support drops off dramatically amongst people with a tertiary education, those limp wristed lefties, reading too damned many books is their problem.

I have two degrees, a professional ICAEW membership and have never voted for the Left yet.

I wish people would stop stereotyping.

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Post by alevine on Mar 2^nd, 2011 at 1:38pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2011 at 1:28pm:

mozzaok wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2011 at 1:23pm:

I have two degrees, a professional ICAEW membership and have never voted for the Left yet.

I wish people would stop stereotyping.

Says the man only too happy to label all muslims as extremists.

And tertiary education is probably not a good use of definition to stereotype lefties. I think he was trying to say "people with a higher IQ than normal." ;D ;D ;D

(It's a joke righties, don't go getting all worked up)

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Post by vegitamite on Mar 2^nd, 2011 at 1:55pm

Well dont' say that 'we Australians' haven't been warn of what the mainstream corporate media and the Liberal national party are doing. They have decided to import US-style hate politics to this country - complete with the deliberate spreading of lies and misinformation .

Sad thing is IF you do not want to Vote Labor and you appose the greens this is what many will vote for. And it is always harder to go back- to the ' good old days - or ways '.

very very sad.

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Post by bogarde73 on Mar 2^nd, 2011 at 2:32pm

What a pleasure it is vegie to come across you again after all this time.
Now tell me this, who will you vote for in the NSW election. You must be in Throsby I guess, so it's probably going to go Lib.

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Post by buzzanddidj on Mar 2^nd, 2011 at 2:38pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2011 at 1:28pm:

I have two degrees, a professional ICAEW membership and have never voted for the Left yet.

I thought you were a "swinging voter" ?
Or do you only swing to the right ?

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Post by mozzaok on Mar 2^nd, 2011 at 2:45pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2011 at 2:38pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2011 at 1:28pm:

I have two degrees, a professional ICAEW membership and have never voted for the Left yet.

I thought you were a "swinging voter" ?
Or do you only swing to the right ?

Yes Andrei is the "Zoolander" of swinging voters.
He can't go left.

Actually maybe he should watch it, he may be inspired, just like Derek Zoolander, who ended up opening;

Quote:

the Derek Zoolander Center For Children Who Can't Read Good And Wanna Learn To Do Other Stuff Good Too, we teach you that there's more to life than being really, really ridiculously good-looking.

or there is even;

Quote:

Words can only hurt you if you try to read them. Don't play their game

That was a funny film.

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Post by vegitamite on Mar 2^nd, 2011 at 3:30pm

bogarde73 wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2011 at 2:32pm:

Hi bogardes.

Answer; John Hatton Independent/ endorsees

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Post by Deathridesahorse on Mar 2^nd, 2011 at 4:29pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2011 at 10:48am:

There is no such thing as a free-market you utter utter utter utter UTTER dishonest piece of metrosexual tryhard crap! :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :D ;D ;)

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Post by Prevailing on Mar 2^nd, 2011 at 6:12pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2011 at 4:29pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2011 at 10:48am:

There is no such thing as a free-market you utter utter utter utter UTTER dishonest piece of metrosexual tryhard crap! :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :D ;D ;)

A Carbon Tax and an ETS combined with the TFN is a license to kill for the Quacks and Mad scientists. :)

Title: Re: "It's (from) the Tea Party, ... "
Post by dsmithy70 on Mar 3^rd, 2011 at 8:05am

Unfortunately Australia is looking more & more like this everyday.
Thanks Tone >:(

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Post by Andrei.Hicks on Mar 3^rd, 2011 at 10:14am

Whilst I am no huge fan of the Tea Party - they do represent the key thing with which I hold dear.

Small Government!

People spend their money better than a Government ever will!

Lower taxes, private healthcare, private education, job creation, lower interest rates, increased price competition.

Everything that I am about.

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Post by Prevailing on Mar 3^rd, 2011 at 10:51am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2011 at 10:14am:

The Tea Party movement is not a solution it is reactionary, less Government intervention in our lives is Great, but actually we need things like universal health care - what we dont need is a scientific elite determining who is worthy of treatment and who is not. Currently our taxation system and the corporate distributes all funds according to Philanthropical and Applied science principles and the state refuses to look after those most in need - in fact it treats them as criminals or genetically undesirable. These values are inconsistent with who we are as a people, our system of laws and Government, they are inconsistent with every stride and advancement we have made towards a more civilized and equitable society based on liberty. 8-)

Juliar Gillard must Go as must Bob Brown, they are unworthy of the Parliament. :)

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Post by Deathridesahorse on Mar 3^rd, 2011 at 3:39pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2011 at 10:14am:

Keep pretending you can hide behind your Nuclear Weapons then....

Your attitude is what makes you the worlds biggest target, you dickhead! :D :D :D :D :D :-[ ;D

You have to love all those bodybags, ay, dood?!!?

LOL Stick that up your sandy vagina ! :D :D :D :D :D