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Message started by abu_rashid on Feb 26th, 2011 at 9:29am

Title: Qadhafi may go back to his own people
Post by abu_rashid on Feb 26th, 2011 at 9:29am
Libya's Gaddafi could find refuge in Israel

Monday, February 21, 2011 | Ryan Jones

Libya's Gaddafi could find refuge in Israel

Israel’s Channel 2 News last year interviewed two Israeli women of Libyan origin who claimed to be distant relatives of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi.

The older of the two interviewees, Guita Brown, said she is Gaddafi’s second cousin (Brown’s grandmother was the sister of Gaddafi’s grandmother). The younger of the two women, Rachel Saada, granddaughter of Brown, explained in more detail:

“The story goes that Gaddafi’s grandmother, herself a Jewess, was married to a Jewish man at first. But he treated her badly, so she ran away and married a Muslim sheikh. Their child was the mother of Gaddafi.”

While Gaddafi’s grandmother converted to Islam when she married the sheikh, according to Jewish religious law (and common sense), she was ethnically still Jewish.

At this point the news anchor stated, “So, the point is that Gaddafi doesn’t just have Jewish relatives, he is Jewish!”

Rumors of Gaddafi’s Jewish background are nothing new. But with the current uprising in Libya that threatens to ultimately overthrow the dictator, as has happened in the neighboring countries of Tunisia and Egypt, Gaddafi may be looking for an exit strategy.

If the story told by Brown and Saada is true, Gaddafi is entitled to immigrate to Israel as a Jew under Israel’s Law of Return. Even if every other country on earth refused him entry, Israel would be obligated by its own laws to take Gaddafi in.

At the time of the interview, the anchor quipped, “I am sure there is some local authority in Israel that would be pleased to have a former president on its staff.”

Source: Israel Today

Title: Re: Qadhafi may go back to his own people
Post by pansi1951 on Feb 27th, 2011 at 10:36am
Ah the irony!

Title: Re: Qadhafi may go back to his own people
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Mar 3rd, 2011 at 2:02pm
He certainly could go to Israel, and then be in time for his appointment in the International Court in the Hague to answer for his crimes.

Title: Re: Qadhafi may go back to his own people
Post by Karnal on Mar 3rd, 2011 at 3:55pm
Nonsense. The people of Libya love their leader. He shall remain insh'allah.

Title: Re: Qadhafi may go back to his own people
Post by Lestat on Mar 4th, 2011 at 7:10am

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 3rd, 2011 at 2:02pm:
He certainly could go to Israel, and then be in time for his appointment in the International Court in the Hague to answer for his crimes.


lol, in Israel he will be protected, along with all the other war criminals PM's Israel had.

Israel...one of the last countries that make hero's out of war criminals.

Title: Re: Qadhafi may go back to his own people
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Mar 4th, 2011 at 10:56am

Lestat wrote on Mar 4th, 2011 at 7:10am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 3rd, 2011 at 2:02pm:
He certainly could go to Israel, and then be in time for his appointment in the International Court in the Hague to answer for his crimes.


lol, in Israel he will be protected, along with all the other war criminals PM's Israel had.

Israel...one of the last countries that make hero's out of war criminals.


He would receive as much protection their as he would in the US.

Title: Re: Qadhafi may go back to his own people
Post by Lestat on Mar 11th, 2011 at 8:37am

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 4th, 2011 at 10:56am:

Lestat wrote on Mar 4th, 2011 at 7:10am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 3rd, 2011 at 2:02pm:
He certainly could go to Israel, and then be in time for his appointment in the International Court in the Hague to answer for his crimes.


lol, in Israel he will be protected, along with all the other war criminals PM's Israel had.

Israel...one of the last countries that make hero's out of war criminals.


He would receive as much protection their as he would in the US.


hehe, yep, another country that has been known to protect war criminals.

Where did all those Nazi scientists end up...you know, the ones that experimented on your own people.

Paperclip anyone?

Title: Re: Qadhafi may go back to his own people
Post by Belgarion on Mar 11th, 2011 at 9:15am
So thats the reason for all this drama in Libya...The JOOS did it...... ;D

Title: Re: Qadhafi may go back to his own people
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Mar 11th, 2011 at 12:55pm

Lestat wrote on Mar 11th, 2011 at 8:37am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 4th, 2011 at 10:56am:

Lestat wrote on Mar 4th, 2011 at 7:10am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 3rd, 2011 at 2:02pm:
He certainly could go to Israel, and then be in time for his appointment in the International Court in the Hague to answer for his crimes.


lol, in Israel he will be protected, along with all the other war criminals PM's Israel had.

Israel...one of the last countries that make hero's out of war criminals.


He would receive as much protection their as he would in the US.


hehe, yep, another country that has been known to protect war criminals.

Where did all those Nazi scientists end up...you know, the ones that experimented on your own people.

Paperclip anyone?


Many ended up being invited to dance at a necktie party.
And others who built the V1 & V2 rockets were invited to the US.
Otherwise, the Russians nabbed them.

Title: Re: Qadhafi may go back to his own people
Post by freediver on Mar 20th, 2011 at 7:20pm
Abu, what is your take on the recent developments in Libya? Was the west wrong to intervene?

Title: Re: Qadhafi may go back to his own people
Post by Foolosophy on Mar 20th, 2011 at 8:32pm

freediver wrote on Mar 20th, 2011 at 7:20pm:
Abu, what is your take on the recent developments in Libya? Was the west wrong to intervene?


I dont understand the selectiveness in where the west interevenes and where it doesnt.

It allows Saudi firces to enter Bharain and start killing unarmed demonstrators

The US vetoes UN resolutions concerning the Israeli occupation of Palestinine.  

Turns a blind eye at blatant war crimes

When you are inconsistent, you can bet that there are other motives behind the Libyan no fly zones.

And you can enforce a no-fly zone by simply shooting Libyan jets. The USA launches 110 missles from navy ships - how is this enforcing a no-fly zone?

Then they claim that they have the support of the Arab League of Nations - lol (what you mean the gang of fascist dictators that the west has been propping up for decades so that public can be kept in poverty and democracy kept from flourishing whilst the despots line their pockets with oil blood money)

This will get ugly

Title: Re: Qadhafi may go back to his own people
Post by freediver on Mar 20th, 2011 at 9:29pm

Quote:
And you can enforce a no-fly zone by simply shooting Libyan jets. The USA launches 110 missles from navy ships - how is this enforcing a no-fly zone?


Shoot them with what?

You need to take out the anti aircraft ground defences. It would be stupid to send aircraft into hostile territory with both enemy aircraft and ground defence shooting back, when you can take the easy option. Also, planes are a lot easier to hit when they are on the ground too.

Title: Re: Qadhafi may go back to his own people
Post by Foolosophy on Mar 20th, 2011 at 10:08pm

freediver wrote on Mar 20th, 2011 at 9:29pm:

Quote:
And you can enforce a no-fly zone by simply shooting Libyan jets. The USA launches 110 missles from navy ships - how is this enforcing a no-fly zone?


Shoot them with what?

You need to take out the anti aircraft ground defences. It would be stupid to send aircraft into hostile territory with both enemy aircraft and ground defence shooting back, when you can take the easy option. Also, planes are a lot easier to hit when they are on the ground too.


and who pays for that course of action?

innocent civilians

One crime does not justify another

Title: Re: Qadhafi may go back to his own people
Post by abu_rashid on Mar 20th, 2011 at 10:41pm
Foolosophy,

If you're hoping to engage someone on an intellectual level, then I wouldn't bother with Freediver. His only aim is to play devil's advocate in every discussion he joins, feeling that he's adding some well needed "balance" to each and every discussion.

Title: Re: Qadhafi may go back to his own people
Post by Aussie on Mar 20th, 2011 at 10:43pm

freediver wrote on Mar 20th, 2011 at 7:20pm:
Abu, what is your take on the recent developments in Libya? Was the west wrong to intervene?



Dunno what Abu says......but I say we have no place involving ourselves in a civil war.

Title: Re: Qadhafi may go back to his own people
Post by Foolosophy on Mar 20th, 2011 at 11:07pm

abu_rashid wrote on Mar 20th, 2011 at 10:41pm:
Foolosophy,

If you're hoping to engage someone on an intellectual level, then I wouldn't bother with Freediver. His only aim is to play devil's advocate in every discussion he joins, feeling that he's adding some well needed "balance" to each and every discussion.


So you are certain that Ghadaffi has Jewish heritage?

What on earth is going on in this world. The current Iranian leader changed his name - is of Jewish extraction,

Both Stalin and Lenin were of Jewish extraction

Even Sarkozy has a Jewish background - and so is the Greek Prime minister Papadreou

what on earth is going on?

Title: Re: Qadhafi may go back to his own people
Post by abu_rashid on Mar 21st, 2011 at 5:13am
I'm not certain of this at all. It's an Israeli magazine which has made this claim, I merely re-posted it.

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