Is this The End Times as prophesised in the Bible?

We've seen floods, storms & locust plagues in Australia,
a bad earthquake in NZ, Islamic people going crazy everywhere
now the stock market is going down again &
homosexuals are getting married.

http://www.tomorrowsworld.org/cgi-bin/tw/booklets/tw-bk.cgi?category=Booklets1&item=1104413534

Fourteen Signs Announcing Christ's Return:

1. Wars, Violence and Lawlessness
2. Drought and Famine
3. Earthquakes and Other Natural Catastrophes
4. Disease Epidemics
5. The Rise of an Aggressive, Fundamentalist Islamic Power
6. An Ascendant European Union Seeks Global Primacy
7. A Powerful Religious Figure Leads a Religious Revival
8. The Gospel of the Kingdom of God Preached to All Nations
9. When Faith Again Becomes a Matter of Life or Death
10. A Crisis Strikes Jerusalem
11. The Abomination of Desolation
12. The Collapse of the English-speaking Nations—The Great Tribulation
13. Heavenly Signs and the Day of the Lord
14. The Seven Last Plagues

You've got to be kidding.

muso wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2011 at 8:11pm:

You've got to be kidding.

Well Muso -   Roderick C. Meredith  said it.
He claims that he is only quoting the Bible.

muso wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2011 at 8:11pm:

You've got to be kidding.

we should be getting a visit from Jesus any day now ;) LOL

"The Abomination of Desolation"  ;D

What pompous, pretentious stupidity!

And what about the toleration of left-handedness? How come that don't rate a mention eh? It's a sign of the devil don't ya know... Geez how quickly these typically poorly educated American evangelists forget! ;D

NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2011 at 8:16pm:

"The Abomination of Desolation"  ;D What pompous, pretentious stupidity! And what about the toleration of left-handedness? How come that don't rate a mention eh? It's a sign of the devil don't ya know... Geez how quickly these typically poorly educated American evangelists forget! ;D

Well Helian - to all those Bible followers here like Longweekend
they now have to agree or not agree with Roderick C. Meredith.

You know Bobby, for someone who claims to not believe in religion, you spend an awful lot of time posting religious quotations and  biblical passages...

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2011 at 8:15pm:

muso wrote on Feb 23rd, 2011 at 8:11pm: You've got to be kidding. we should be getting a visit from Jesus any day now ;) LOL

Oh the Mexican guy? Yeah - he was here last week. He just wanted to be paid for painting my fence.

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2011 at 8:25pm:

You know Bobby, for someone who claims to not believe in religion, you spend an awful lot of time posting religious quotations and  biblical passages...

You're right - I do,  don't I  !

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2011 at 8:25pm:

You know Bobby, for someone who claims to not believe in religion, you spend an awful lot of time posting religious quotations and  biblical passages...

he's taking the piss out of it or haven't you worked that out yet ?

you are about ten jokes behind the rest of them gizmo :(

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2011 at 8:29pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 23rd, 2011 at 8:25pm: You know Bobby, for someone who claims to not believe in religion, you spend an awful lot of time posting religious quotations and  biblical passages... he's taking the piss out of it or haven't you worked that out yet ? you are about ten jokes behind the rest of them gizmo :(

Nail - I might not be:

Look here,
This was written before the revolution in Egypt that we just saw:


Quote:

5. The Rise of an Aggressive, Fundamentalist Islamic Power     In the time of the end, the Bible predicts that there will arise, in North Africa or the Middle East, a charismatic personality who will be able to unify, harness and lead a powerful block of nations in which Egypt will have a key role.

Let not the left hand knoweth what the right hand doeth.

Come on Christian nutjobs.... Sure, God hates fags... But hey you know he hates south paws too. Get off your fat arses and bash one tomorrow... If not for yourself... Then at least do it for god.

So do you think you'll ever get a Christian to bite?

I seriously doubt it.  Anyway, it's chai time. I'll leave you evangelical atheists to it.

Anybody have a tambourine?

muso wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2011 at 8:36pm:

So do you think you'll ever get a Christian to bite? I seriously doubt it.

Well then they ain't doin the Lord's work is they?

So do you think you'll ever get a Christian to bite?


I seriously doubt it.

- Muso


I'm too busy biting into a fresh granny smith apple atm ... but I might bite later lol :P

Bobby. wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2011 at 8:31pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 23rd, 2011 at 8:29pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 23rd, 2011 at 8:25pm: You know Bobby, for someone who claims to not believe in religion, you spend an awful lot of time posting religious quotations and  biblical passages... he's taking the piss out of it or haven't you worked that out yet ? you are about ten jokes behind the rest of them gizmo :( Nail - I might not be: Look here, This was written before the revolution in Egypt that we just saw: Quote: 5. The Rise of an Aggressive, Fundamentalist Islamic Power     In the time of the end, the Bible predicts that there will arise, in North Africa or the Middle East, a charismatic personality who will be able to unify, harness and lead a powerful block of nations in which Egypt will have a key role.

Do you also know that Jesus promised his Disciples that they would still be alive when the Revelation came??

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2011 at 8:37pm:

So do you think you'll ever get a Christian to bite? I seriously doubt it. - Muso I'm too busy biting into a fresh granny smith apple atm ... but I might bite later lol :P

Every minute you dally is another minute a south paw flaunts the abomination of his sinistery at the lord without condemnation nor demand for redress.

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2011 at 8:37pm:

So do you think you'll ever get a Christian to bite? I seriously doubt it. - Muso I'm too busy biting into a fresh granny smith apple atm ... but I might bite later lol :P

Lisa,
is Roderick C. Meredith wrong?

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2011 at 8:37pm:

So do you think you'll ever get a Christian to bite? I seriously doubt it. - Muso I'm too busy biting into a fresh granny smith apple atm ... but I might bite later lol :P

don't leave it too much later because we all might not be here ;) LOL

Yes, I believe it definitely is the end times.
I am just waiting to see which "god" turns up, and then I will be off like a shot for my last minute conversion, repentance, and life of eternal bliss.

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2011 at 8:50pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 23rd, 2011 at 8:37pm: So do you think you'll ever get a Christian to bite? I seriously doubt it. - Muso I'm too busy biting into a fresh granny smith apple atm ... but I might bite later lol :P don't leave it too much later because we all might not be here ;) LOL

Now that made me laugh (not a good thing when you're trying to eat) lol!

Hey Bobby .. a quick question .. how is it you didn't start this topic over in Spirituality?

Hope all the drama over there wasn't responsible.

NB It doesn't really matter now .. I am happy to talk to you here.

I would like to take this opportunity to offer a general apology to you all for what has happened in Spirituality lately.

I've been advised that things have settled down now.

As you know, I'm usually there making sure the lights are on so that anyone who drops by is able to have some company/support.

Irrespective of what has happened there lately .. I am going to make sure I keep the lights on as much as I am able to.

Thank you for being so patient and lovely.

Lisa

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2011 at 8:58pm:

Hey Bobby .. a quick question .. how is it you didn't start this topic over in Spirituality? Hope all the drama over there wasn't responsible. NB It doesn't really matter now .. I am happy to talk to you here.

OK - but you still didn't answer me Darl.
Roderick C. Meredith -  right or  wrong?

Here he is -  Roderick C. Meredith in living colour.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v6TsaYLEtU

What is the Great Tribulation? - Part 2 of 3


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yngapYAM7_k&feature=related

The 3rd part.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=re2UnTnImeo&feature=related

Bobby. wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2011 at 8:06pm:

Is this The End Times as prophesised in the Bible?

Sure, it's ALWAYS the end times.

How long is the end times? We must be in it somewhere.

George Carlin sums up this lot quite well ;) LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o

"This is the last and most astounding fact about this faith; that its enemies will use any weapon against it, the swords that cut their own fingers, and the firebrands that burn their own homes. Men who begin to fight the Church for the sake of freedom and humanity end by flinging away freedom and humanity if only they may fight the Church. This is no exaggeration; I could fill a book with the instances of it. Mr. Blatchford set out, as an ordinary Bible-smasher, to prove that Adam was guiltless of sin against God; in manoeuvring so as to maintain this he admitted, as a mere side issue, that all the tyrants, from Nero to King Leopold, were guiltless of any sin against humanity. I know a man who has such a passion for proving that he will have no personal existence after death that he falls back on the position that he has no personal existence now."
http://www.leaderu.com/cyber/books/orthodoxy/ch8.html


And you don''t even have to be a Christian to see the truth of this.

Soren wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2011 at 10:28pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 23rd, 2011 at 8:06pm: Is this The End Times as prophesised in the Bible? Sure, it's ALWAYS the end times. How long is the end times? We must be in it somewhere.

This is the End Times my friend.
Jesus is about to return & rule the world.

Bobby. wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2011 at 11:15pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 23rd, 2011 at 10:28pm: Bobby. wrote on Feb 23rd, 2011 at 8:06pm: Is this The End Times as prophesised in the Bible? Sure, it's ALWAYS the end times. How long is the end times? We must be in it somewhere. This is the End Times my friend. Jesus is about to return & rule the world.

That's what they said in AD 999. And AD 1999. And a few time in between.

Well, if you look at the International Dateline.
The USA is always at the "End of the World".
Hence why we may be "Down Under" here in Oceania (literally down under the waves into the deep dark abyss),
but we are always a "Day Ahead". ;)

So is the world really gonna go kaput with all these Volcanos, Earthquakes, Tsunamis, Floods, Bushfires, Droughts, Cyclones, Tornados, Rogue Waves, etc, etc,
...on top of self-inflicted self abuse brought upon by us Humans to both the World and ourselves (same thing).
:-??

Sure Billions of people will die,
but "Nope",
we (and the planet) won't entirely be destroyed.
;D

You'd have to award American-style Christian evangelists the prize for being the most blood-simple idiots of Christendom.

It would truly be a miracle if these twats could walk and fart at the same time.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 24^th, 2011 at 6:01am:

You'd have to award American-style Christian evangelists the prize for being the most blood-simple idiots of Christendom. It would truly be a miracle if these twats could walk and fart at the same time.

But Helian - if you watch the 3 video clips that I posted he
seems so sincere about the 14 signs of the end times.
I wish Longweekend would comment.
He is our resident Bible expert.

He's an American Evangelist, he doesn't give a toss about God or Earth or when it's going to end just send $99.99 + p/h to"your an insecure twat who I'll scare & bleed dry" & you'll be saved.
These guys are modern day snake oil salesman.
As for the sincerity, if I knew I'd make $5 million from earnestly telling vulnerable people the worlds going to end I'd have you hiding under your bed in the fetal position within 10 minutes ;)

seems it is not the end times....just a shift, so all will be well. We are taken care of so don't run to your nearest church and get baptised. The floods, the cyclones, the earthquake....just a realignment.
.................................................................................

and so it is,

i appear before you beloved ones once more

the 28th of feb fast approacheth

bring it on,as it were

a very special guest will be decending unto your

3rd dimensional reality construct..

and is here to assist and oversee the >>>shift<<<

many human beings have been praying for this

being of LIGHT to appear...

enjoy

namaste
.......................................................

by it is the light and copied from the conscience thread.

It is the Light/ Karnal
Internet Gods

Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 24^th, 2011 at 7:45am:

He's an American Evangelist, he doesn't give a toss about God or Earth or when it's going to end just send $99.99 + p/h to"your an insecure twat who I'll scare & bleed dry" & you'll be saved. These guys are modern day snake oil salesman. As for the sincerity, if I knew I'd make $5 million from earnestly telling vulnerable people the worlds going to end I'd have you hiding under your bed in the fetal position within 10 minutes ;)

As far as American evangelism is concerned, think big business. It's a bit tacky to say the least, but many Americans send the $99 because they believe that they are buying an insurance policy that will admit them to heaven.

It's a bit like the scene from the Wizard of Oz. Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

- and the man behind the curtain is probably up to all sorts of unsavoury things, as experience has shown us. Anyway, have a nice day.  :)

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Feb 24^th, 2011 at 7:46am:

seems it is not the end times....just a shift, so all will be well. We are taken care of so don't run to your nearest church and get baptised. The floods, the cyclones, the earthquake....just a realignment. ................................................................................. and so it is, i appear before you beloved ones once more the 28th of feb fast approacheth bring it on,as it were a very special guest will be decending unto your 3rd dimensional reality construct.. and is here to assist and oversee the >>>shift<<< many human beings have been praying for this being of LIGHT to appear... enjoy namaste ....................................................... by it is the light and copied from the conscience thread.

I knew It_is_the_light would post something but he should come here
& offer us all End Time advice so that we can be prepared.
Do we really have to send in $99 to be saved?

Bobby. wrote on Feb 24^th, 2011 at 8:10am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Feb 24th, 2011 at 7:46am: seems it is not the end times....just a shift, so all will be well. We are taken care of so don't run to your nearest church and get baptised. The floods, the cyclones, the earthquake....just a realignment. ................................................................................. and so it is, i appear before you beloved ones once more the 28th of feb fast approacheth bring it on,as it were a very special guest will be decending unto your 3rd dimensional reality construct.. and is here to assist and oversee the >>>shift<<< many human beings have been praying for this being of LIGHT to appear... enjoy namaste ....................................................... by it is the light and copied from the conscience thread. I knew It_is_the_light would post something but he should come here & offer us all End Time advice so that we can be prepared. Do we really have to send in $99 to be saved?

Just PM me bobby & I'll reply with mailing address ;)

Thanks smithy - the money is on the way.

<<Do we really have to send in $99 to be saved? >>
....................................................................

Just send $1 that should get you a place in the slums of heaven, still better than a prime position in hell....isn't it?

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Feb 24^th, 2011 at 8:40am:

<<Do we really have to send in $99 to be saved? >> .................................................................... Just send $1 that should get you a place in the slums of heaven, still better than a prime position in hell....isn't it?

What are you supposed to do in heaven anyway?
Sit on a cloud playing a harp?

Quote:

The couple was 85 years old, and had been married for sixty years. Though they were far from rich, they managed to get by because they watched their pennies. And, though not young, they were both in very good health, largely due to the wife's insistence on healthy foods and exercise for the last three decades. One day, their good health didn't help when they went on a rare vacation and their car crashed, sending them off to Heaven. They reached the Pearly Gates, and St. Peter escorted them inside. He took them to a beautiful mansion, furnished in gold and fine silks, with a fully stocked kitchen and a waterfall in the master bath. A maid could be seen hanging their favourite clothes, freshly pressed, in the closet. They gasped in astonishment when he said, "Welcome to Heaven. This will be your home now." The old man asked Peter how much all this was going to cost. "Why, nothing," Peter replied, "remember, this is your reward in Heaven." The old man looked out the window and saw a championship golf course, finer and more beautiful than any ever-built on Earth. "What are the green fees?" grumbled the old man. "This is heaven," St. Peter replied. "You can play for free, every day - any starting time you wish." Next they went to the clubhouse and saw the cuisine laid out before them, from seafood to steaks to exotic deserts, free flowing beverages and a fountain of champagne. "Don't even ask," said St. Peter to the couple. "This is Heaven, it is all free for you to enjoy." The old man looked around and glanced nervously at his wife. "Well, where are the low fat and low cholesterol foods, and the decaffeinated tea?" he asked. "That's the best part," St. Peter replied. "You can eat and drink as much as you like of whatever you like, and you will never get fat or sick. This is Heaven!" The old man pushed, "No gym to work out at?" "Not unless you want to," was the answer. "No testing my sugar or blood pressure or..." "Never again. All you do here is enjoy yourself." The old man glared at his wife and said, "You and your smacking fat-free bran muffins. We could have been here twenty years ago you bitch!"

Smith - Very funny.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 24^th, 2011 at 7:53am:

It is the Light/ Karnal Internet Gods

Gud is within you, effende. We can but show the way.

We are going through a ViBrAtIoNaL shift at present, but this world will remain.

Problem is, most will be killed off. What to do?

Karnal wrote on Feb 24^th, 2011 at 11:27am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 24th, 2011 at 7:53am: It is the Light/ Karnal Internet Gods Gud is within you, effende. We can but show the way. We are going through a ViBrAtIoNaL shift at present, but this world will remain. Problem is, most will be killed off. What to do?

Please don't let the only survivors be the pollies in their specially made bunker in Canberra. I pity the new world if they come from that lot.

I'll be saved during these End Times because I voted Green.

Bobby. wrote on Feb 24^th, 2011 at 12:02pm:

I'll be saved during these End Times because I voted Green.

I voted green too. Have we got a get out of jail free card? See! I told you it pays to be green, we're even respected in heaven.

The Greens shall inheret the earth. Problem is, it won't be green anymore.

What to do?

Perhaps politicos like Tony Abbott and Barnaby Joyce need to create a new party: the Greys, or the Scorched Earths.

Look at this guys - it doesn't matter what colour you call yourself.

http://www.tomorrowsworld.org/cgi-bin/tw/booklets/tw-bk.cgi?category=Booklets1&item=1104413534

Roderick C. Meredith on Earthquakes:

Quote:

Maybe a good shaking up will get people’s attention! So, dear readers, watch for increasing earthquakes as a sign that Christ is coming soon. And if you would like to know more about God’s intervention in natural phenomena, write for your free copy of our booklet Who Controls the Weather?

Except for one little thing. The frequency of earthquakes is just the same as it's always been.

So, have we worked it out yet? Is it or isn't it?

:) Hello Lisa, yes these natural disasters could be signs that has been stated in revelations or could well do with the mayan calender dealing with civilisations end in 2012.

Or maybe a NOSTODAMUS quantrain is coming true, ???


;D ;D take your pick,

Good to see you there, Lisa, i hope everything is fine with you.

You know of course that the early Christian church categorised the Book of Revelations as antilegomena. It has considerable pagan influences from Greek mythology.

Bobby. wrote on Feb 24^th, 2011 at 7:33am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 24th, 2011 at 6:01am: You'd have to award American-style Christian evangelists the prize for being the most blood-simple idiots of Christendom. It would truly be a miracle if these twats could walk and fart at the same time. But Helian - if you watch the 3 video clips that I posted he seems so sincere about the 14 signs of the end times. I wish Longweekend would comment. He is our resident Bible expert.

The square root of bullshit is truth to those who need to believe in anything that promises liberation from the consequences of a mortal life of failure.

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 24^th, 2011 at 9:17pm:

So, have we worked it out yet? Is it or isn't it?

Well Lisa - according to Roderick C. Meredith the End Times are here now.
Did you watch any of the 3 videos that I posted?

According to Christian propaganda we are at the end of the end times. Because they will say that we have always been in the end times right from the beginning of time.

I would think that if the Christian churches are convincing anyone that we are in fact in the end times, they would have masses of both good and bad folk flocking to the church for salvation. Instead the opposite seems to be the case.

What religion is the fastest growing in the world today?

You guessed right. Does the Koran say anything about end times?

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Feb 25^th, 2011 at 6:44am:

According to Christian propaganda we are at the end of the end times. Because they will say that we have always been in the end times right from the beginning of time. I would think that if the Christian churches are convincing anyone that we are in fact in the end times, they would have masses of both good and bad folk flocking to the church for salvation. Instead the opposite seems to be the case. What religion is the fastest growing in the world today? You guessed right. Does the Koran say anything about end times?

Interesting post  Pansi.
I don't know what the Koran says - maybe Abu can advise us?

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Feb 25^th, 2011 at 6:44am:

What religion is the fastest growing in the world today?

In Australia, the fastest growing religion in terms of population  is "no religion" . In the world, that's also the case.

You need to look at which countries have the highest contribution to world population growth to determine that. China and India by themselves make up 2.5 billion people, which is about 1/3 of the world's population.

India is about 80% Hindu and China is about 65% atheist. The next biggest religion in China is Buddhism. The fastest growing religion in China (and in fact Asia) is Christianity.

The biggest contributions to world growth in 5 years up to 2007 are (in order) India, Pakistan, Nigeria, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Bangladesh, Uganda, United States, Ethiopia, and China.

The myth that Islam is the world's biggest growing population is one perpetuated by Islamists by skewing statistics to suit themselves.

Of course, that's not including minor religions such as the new age religions, which may go from 1 to 3000 adherents and claim a 300,000% growth rate.

muso wrote on Feb 25^th, 2011 at 7:58am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Feb 25th, 2011 at 6:44am: What religion is the fastest growing in the world today? In Australia, the fastest growing religion in terms of population  is "no religion" . In the world, that's also the case. You need to look at which countries have the highest contribution to world population growth to determine that. China and India by themselves make up 2.5 billion people, which is about 1/3 of the world's population. India is about 80% Hindu and China is about 65% atheist. The next biggest religion in China is Buddhism. The fastest growing religion in China (and in fact Asia) is Christianity. The biggest contributions to world growth in 5 years up to 2007 are (in order) India, Pakistan, Nigeria, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Bangladesh, Uganda, United States, Ethiopia, and China. The myth that Islam is the world's biggest growing population is one perpetuated by Islamists by skewing statistics to suit themselves. Of course, that's not including minor religions such as the new age religions, which may go from 1 to 3000 adherents and claim a 300,000% growth rate.

What about the tele-evangalist religion with a doomsday slant like "tomorrows world"
as featured by Mr Meridith?
A lot of people give money to guys like him.

Bobby. wrote on Feb 25^th, 2011 at 8:45am:

muso wrote on Feb 25th, 2011 at 7:58am: Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Feb 25th, 2011 at 6:44am: What religion is the fastest growing in the world today? In Australia, the fastest growing religion in terms of population  is "no religion" . In the world, that's also the case. You need to look at which countries have the highest contribution to world population growth to determine that. China and India by themselves make up 2.5 billion people, which is about 1/3 of the world's population. India is about 80% Hindu and China is about 65% atheist. The next biggest religion in China is Buddhism. The fastest growing religion in China (and in fact Asia) is Christianity. The biggest contributions to world growth in 5 years up to 2007 are (in order) India, Pakistan, Nigeria, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Bangladesh, Uganda, United States, Ethiopia, and China. The myth that Islam is the world's biggest growing population is one perpetuated by Islamists by skewing statistics to suit themselves. Of course, that's not including minor religions such as the new age religions, which may go from 1 to 3000 adherents and claim a 300,000% growth rate. What about the tele-evangalist religion with a doomsday slant like "tomorrows world" as featured by Mr Meridith? A lot of people give money to guys like him.

Yes, but they are usually senile and past the age of reproduction.

muso wrote on Feb 25^th, 2011 at 7:58am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Feb 25th, 2011 at 6:44am: What religion is the fastest growing in the world today? In Australia, the fastest growing religion in terms of population  is "no religion" . In the world, that's also the case. You need to look at which countries have the highest contribution to world population growth to determine that. China and India by themselves make up 2.5 billion people, which is about 1/3 of the world's population. India is about 80% Hindu and China is about 65% atheist. The next biggest religion in China is Buddhism. The fastest growing religion in China (and in fact Asia) is Christianity. The biggest contributions to world growth in 5 years up to 2007 are (in order) India, Pakistan, Nigeria, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Bangladesh, Uganda, United States, Ethiopia, and China. The myth that Islam is the world's biggest growing population is one perpetuated by Islamists by skewing statistics to suit themselves. Of course, that's not including minor religions such as the new age religions, which may go from 1 to 3000 adherents and claim a 300,000% growth rate.

My dear one, you are forgetting SaLuSa.

This is not religion, of course. It is a way of viewing the Light.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Feb 25^th, 2011 at 6:44am:

Does the Koran say anything about end times?

Watch Israel.


ISLAM says a lot, about the end times.

The Hadith says that Allah's judgement day will not come, until moslems first fight, and kill all Jews.

Google;
hadith judgement day wont come until muslims kill all jews


According to ISLAM;
Allah is God.
The Dajjal, is the [muslim] Antichrist.
He a leader of, and defender of Jews, and of Israel, he is SATAN's 'end-time' agent on Earth.
He will succeed in turning some moslems away from following Allah/ISLAM, and will claim to be divine [i.e. like Jesus, claimed to be divine!]


Many of the Christian and ISLAMIC accounts of the end times, express conflicting parallels, and can be seen to be, 'contrary' versions of how the 'end times' will conclude.


Google;
Islam’s Anticipated “Mahdi” and the Bible’s “Man of Lawlessness” or “Beast”


Al-Mahdi and the Antichrist
End Times in Islam and Christianity (and how they are related)
http://al-mahdi.atspace.com/compare.html


A Study of Biblical and Islamic Eschatology
Joel Richardson
Table of Contents
http://answering-islam.org/Authors/JR/Future/index.htm

Wow - Islam is full of this doomsday stuff as well.
I am learning about the End Times!

I've been doing some internet research, and it seems that both Christianity and Islam claim to be the fastest growing. Now if those two troublesome religions disappeared, the world would be left to get on with the good times without fighting or worrying about the end times.

Bobby. wrote on Feb 25^th, 2011 at 9:30am:

Wow - Islam is full of this doomsday stuff as well. I am learning about the End Times!

Only controlling religions have end times/doomsday stuff because it keeps the flocks in control.
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In Australia, Buddhism is a small but growing religion. According to the 2006 census, 2.1 percent of the total population of Australia, or 418,749 people, identified as Buddhist.[citation needed] It was also the fastest-growing religion by percentage, having increased its number of adherents by 79 percent between the 1996 and 2001 censuses.[1] Buddhism is the second largest religion in the country, after Christianity.
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Due to immigration I suppose. Buddhism is cool, they don't try to control others, people just be the best they can be. No end time, correct me if I'm wrong.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 24^th, 2011 at 10:21pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 24th, 2011 at 7:33am: NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 24th, 2011 at 6:01am: You'd have to award American-style Christian evangelists the prize for being the most blood-simple idiots of Christendom. It would truly be a miracle if these twats could walk and fart at the same time. But Helian - if you watch the 3 video clips that I posted he seems so sincere about the 14 signs of the end times. I wish Longweekend would comment. He is our resident Bible expert. The square root of bullshit is truth to those who need to believe in anything that promises liberation from the consequences of a mortal life of failure.

Helian - I take it you don't believe?

Repent now for the end is nigh.

There was a little old church out in rural Queensland:
It was a picturesque  sight with its painted white clapboards and high steeple.

One Sunday, the pastor noticed that his church's paint was getting a bit shabby and peeling. He checked out the Sunday ads and found a paint sale at the local hardware store, and the next day, he went into town and bought three gallons of Wattle Solagard, then went back to the church and began the job.

Having completed the first side, he stood back and admired his work. It was looking great. But he noticed that he had already used over 4 litres. He didn't want to go all the way back into town, so he figured that if he just thinned the paint a little, it might last long enough to finish the other three sides. So he added a few litres of water to each of the remaining tins, and continued painting.

It worked out great. He finished the last three sides with the remaining paint.

That night, it rained: and it rained HARD. The next morning when he stepped outside of the parsonage to admire his work, he saw that the first side was still looking great, but that the paint on the other three sides had washed away.

The pastor looked up in sky in anguish and cried out, "LORD, What shall I do?"

A voice came back from the heavens saying,


"Repaint, and thin no more!"

Bobby .. to repent means to be sorry for your past actions and attitudes.

It's something we ought to consider every day IMO.

Why? Because no one knows if/when the end time is here/near .. and IMO it's irrelevant anyway.

YOU or I could die tomorrow (or even tonight). So in that respect .. what really matters is the END TIME for YOU and for ME.

I would think it is far better to die with a clear conscience knowing you have put things right with God and with man.

But that's just my humble opinion on the matter.

Muso .. that was a classic lol :)

I'm gonna tell it to my Church Minister lmao :)

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Feb 25^th, 2011 at 12:04pm:

I've been doing some internet research, and it seems that both Christianity and Islam claim to be the fastest growing. Now if those two troublesome religions disappeared, the world would be left to get on with the good times without fighting or worrying about the end times.

Well I guess it's good for business. It all depends on how you define fastest growing. Is that by percent or by total increase in adherents, by the number of new mosques/ churches built or whatever other measure. There are always ways to skew the stats in your favour.

We'll discount "No religion" because of course that's not a religion, so among the actual religions....

Hmm it's interesting to note these claims Muso.

Now, let me tell you why it's interesting. You see .. people can say whatever they like .. but the Holy Bible states and I quote:

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first

- 2 Thess 2 : 3

In short .. there will be a decline in the numbers of believers.

muso wrote on Feb 25^th, 2011 at 2:32pm:

There was a little old church out in rural Queensland: It was a picturesque  sight with its painted white clapboards and high steeple. One Sunday, the pastor noticed that his church's paint was getting a bit shabby and peeling. He checked out the Sunday ads and found a paint sale at the local hardware store, and the next day, he went into town and bought three gallons of Wattle Solagard, then went back to the church and began the job. Having completed the first side, he stood back and admired his work. It was looking great. But he noticed that he had already used over 4 litres. He didn't want to go all the way back into town, so he figured that if he just thinned the paint a little, it might last long enough to finish the other three sides. So he added a few litres of water to each of the remaining tins, and continued painting. It worked out great. He finished the last three sides with the remaining paint. That night, it rained: and it rained HARD. The next morning when he stepped outside of the parsonage to admire his work, he saw that the first side was still looking great, but that the paint on the other three sides had washed away. The pastor looked up in sky in anguish and cried out, "LORD, What shall I do?" A voice came back from the heavens saying, "Repaint, and thin no more!"

Very good!!!

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 25^th, 2011 at 2:55pm:

Hmm it's interesting to note these claims Muso. Now, let me tell you why it's interesting. You see .. people can say whatever they like .. but the Holy Bible states and I quote: Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first - 2 Thess 2 : 3 In short .. there will be a decline in the numbers of believers.

More antilegomena. Heresy, anathema ! ἀνάθεμα even, at least to the Early Christians.

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 25^th, 2011 at 2:36pm:

Bobby .. to repent means to be sorry for your past actions and attitudes. It's something we ought to consider every day IMO. Why? Because no one knows if/when the end time is here/near .. and IMO it's irrelevant anyway. YOU or I could die tomorrow (or even tonight). So in that respect .. what really matters is the END TIME for YOU and for ME. I would think it is far better to die with a clear conscience knowing you have put things right with God and with man. But that's just my humble opinion on the matter.

But Lisa,
You are referring to a different End Time.
I am talking about the one in the Bible which is for the whole world
at the same time.

much dearly beloved ones

i am with you now,and continue to emminate from

a divine frequency and construct within

i observe many human beings in a state of confusion

about what continues to unfold upon your world in these times

are these the end times?

yes and no.

the end to slavery yes and the stranglehold that the

dark ones have had upon you,divide bind and rule through

religion and socio-economic standings and race culture doctrine

and dogma.

i am not religious and observe all as

sacred and divine.

does this comfort you?

is this the end times?

no,for you are eternal and having a linear timeline experience

in this the 3rd order of dimension.are you aware of as much?

this understanding and consciousness increases unto/into within

you in every now moment.

i have started many threads in spirituality and have explained

this ascension process many many many many times

however

many truths continue to fall on deaf ears,

so be it.

eternal blessings and namaste

-:)

Exactly. They refuse to hear, Light.

These people are swine.

muso wrote on Feb 25^th, 2011 at 3:11pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 25th, 2011 at 2:55pm: Hmm it's interesting to note these claims Muso. Now, let me tell you why it's interesting. You see .. people can say whatever they like .. but the Holy Bible states and I quote: Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first - 2 Thess 2 : 3 In short .. there will be a decline in the numbers of believers. More antilegomena. Heresy, anathema ! ἀνάθεμα even, at least to the Early Christians.

Come again Muso? I don't think so.

Twenty of the twenty-seven books of the New Testament are generally accepted by all to belong to the New Testament canon. These include all the books from Matthew to Philemon, plus I Peter and I John.

The set of books over which there was some question of canonicity (the Antilegomena) consist of Hebrews, James, 2 Peter, 2 and 3 John, Jude and Revelation.

http://www.ou.edu/faculty/organizations/ouchrfas/reed11.htm

Exactly. They refuse to hear, Light.

These people are swine.

_________

with forgiveness as i do not attack/abuse any other

for these know not what they do,

these are forgiven and are human beings

namaste

-:)

http://lightworkers.org/channeling/125486/salusa-23-february-2011

SaLuSa 23-February-2011

Let no one imagine that the tasks ahead are going to be easy, as much confusion already exists and not everyone has the advantage of knowing the purpose of the cleansing which is taking place. The Middle East is now entering a period of instability until the way forward becomes clear. However, one thing is certain that it will not return to the old ways of dictatorship. The people have spoken and their voices heard all around the world. They are drawing upon the energy of change that will ensure that they are given back their rights. To a greater or lesser degree the revolution will be felt by all administrations that have taken advantage of their people. Our presence will give protection to those who emerge as the new leaders, and they will carry the torch of freedom. It is all the forerunner of a complete return to your sovereignty.

You are at the beginning of a period of great activity, and throughout this year the beginning of the end will be clear. We see many possibilities that will fulfil the promises made to you. Progress must clearly be made in readiness for the final thrust through 2012. It is our mutual responsibility to ensure that Ascension is safely reached, and of that you may be absolutely sure. No matter how you view events, nothing will prevent what has been planned for eons of time. You are about to experience a most exciting time in your lives, and if you can see it that way the journey will be much easier for you. You have been preparing for this time for ages, and it will go down in your history as the Great Awakening of Man.

The coming together of people is important for their protection, and there is also safety in numbers. There is no need to resort to violent acts as that plays into the hands of the dark Ones. Keep your peace and spread your love everywhere, and eventually even some of the dark Ones will be moved to change their approach to life. The energy of Love is most powerful, and there is absolutely nothing it cannot achieve, as it is the ultimate power of all creation. Have faith in it even if you cannot see results straight away. Love has a way of softening the hardest hearts, and will overcome all negative energies. Let love be your guiding light. and give freely of it wherever and whenever you can.

The great step forward will come when we can meet you, and start to introduce you to advanced technologies. They are planned to cater for your needs so that as quick as possible you can become independent, and start to sample a much better standard of life. Food, energy and water are essentials to give everyone what they need to survive. Peace will be established across the world and we shall ensure that it is kept. At these times a great feeling of elation will sweep the world, as it will be seen that at last Man has taken a quantum leap forward. Religious divides will disappear, as it will be understood that there is only the One God of All That Is.

You have waited long for something positive to happen, that would prove that the process of change was under way. Now that it has arrived you need to be wide awake and alert to the final attempts of the dark Ones to spread confusion and disinformation. Keep your eyes straight ahead and never lose sight of your goal. Where you have doubts or concern hold fast, as in the not too distant future the truth of many happenings will become clear, and it cannot be interfered with or presented any differently. Deceit and outright lies will not be tolerated any longer, and the media will once again be able to report truthfully. Freedom of speech will return like a breath of fresh air, and law and order will be both just and fair. Happily with the changes and new levels of consciousness, there will be an immense drop in criminal activity of all kinds.

Any acts on your part that could be considered as sacrificial will serve to illustrate the new sense of Oneness. Treating others as yourself will become commonplace, and sharing will seem a most natural way of life. It will help of course that the wealth of the world, will have become shared so that there is equality between you all. No more shall the Elite exist and deny others their rightful share of the Earth’s bounties. Mother Earth has always provided more than sufficient for the souls that have lived upon her, but having abused her generosity and love for mankind it must now be the time of reckoning. That is why a great cleansing and restoration of Earth to her previous beauty, must take place.

Light .. what on earth has that got to do with the topic?

So as you can see, recent events are only the beginning of many that are waiting to greet you. You know by now what to expect, and it is simply a matter of which ones can go ahead when the opportunity presents itself. Mother Earth is commencing her cleansing and it will inevitably result in upheaval in some countries, but as always we remind you that we do exercise control over them to reduce the affects. In the long run we can get more involved and will assist you in avoiding total disasters. Your history shows that they are not at all unusual, as the Earth is continually changing and has always done so. If you live in danger zones expect problems and prepare accordingly, and that is simply sensible advice and not intended to scare you.

All in all you can expect an increasing amount of activity, and particularly during the second half of the year. After that things will become gentler and not so volatile, and you will experience your first taste of what it is like to move into the higher vibrations. By then your consciousness levels will have also lifted up, and a beautiful energy will build up upon the Earth. You are getting there Dear Ones, and it is most heartening for us that you have risen to the occasion. It was never believed that you would falter, but it is still a remarkable achievement considering where you were just a century ago.

I am SaLuSa from Sirius, and we of the Galactic Federation cannot help but admire your tenacity and resolve to win your way forward to Ascension. It is not just how you have reacted in recent times, but your success in leaving the Dark Ages behind and setting sights on a more fulfilling life in Love and Light. Your intent to succeed has earnt you a place in Ascension, and it does not come without much work and persistence on your part.

Thank you SaLuSa.

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 25^th, 2011 at 4:05pm:

Light .. what on earth has that got to do with the topic?

Nothing...but that's no surprise considering it's the_light.....he's so disturbed that threads don't matter....

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 25^th, 2011 at 4:45pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 25th, 2011 at 4:05pm: Light .. what on earth has that got to do with the topic? Nothing...but that's no surprise considering it's the_light.....he's so disturbed that threads don't matter....

Apparently the aliens are coming to solve our problems

Quote:

The great step forward will come when we can meet you, and start to introduce you to advanced technologies. They are planned to cater for your needs so that as quick as possible you can become independent, and start to sample a much better standard of life. Food, energy and water are essentials to give everyone what they need to survive. Peace will be established across the world and we shall ensure that it is kept. At these times a great feeling of elation will sweep the world, as it will be seen that at last Man has taken a quantum leap forward. Religious divides will disappear, as it will be understood that there is only the One God of All That Is.

Hope his right sounds cool :)

Good one.

Smithy,

Quote:

Apparently the aliens are coming to solve our problems

That's what I read into it too.

lol...Certainly a spirited debate! I believe that we are living in the end times. The Scriptures talk in Matthew 24, about wars, and rumours of wars and earthquakes, floods, storms, fire, but it goes on to explain that this will only be the beginning of birth pains, meaning that this is just the beginning of sorrows.  :o

The 4 winds that scripture talks about, where the angels are holding back the winds of strife are, I believe are just just being lessened and the full force of nature is still to come on this earth and is about to be unleashed. It is not the Lord doing these things, but the other powers, and principalities, to use a scriptural term, that are at work in this world at the moment! But take heart, that the Lord is not far away from coming!!
:) :)

MAHeading wrote on Feb 25^th, 2011 at 10:11pm:

lol...Certainly a spirited debate! I believe that we are living in the end times. The Scriptures talk in Matthew 24, about wars, and rumours of wars and earthquakes, floods, storms, fire, but it goes on to explain that this will only be the beginning of birth pains, meaning that this is just the beginning of sorrows.  :o The 4 winds that scripture talks about, where the angels are holding back the winds of strife are, I believe are just just being lessened and the full force of nature is still to come on this earth and is about to be unleashed. It is not the Lord doing these things, but the other powers, and principalities, to use a scriptural term, that are at work in this world at the moment! But take heart, that the Lord is not far away from coming!! :) :)

Yeah, I think I like the aliens better :D :D

Light,

Quote:

I am SaLuSa from Sirius, and we of the Galactic Federation cannot help but admire your tenacity and resolve to win your way forward to Ascension. It is not just how you have reacted in recent times, but your success in leaving the Dark Ages behind and setting sights on a more fulfilling life in Love and Light. Your intent to succeed has earnt you a place in Ascension, and it does not come without much work and persistence on your part. Thank you SaLuSa.

Light - how does this fulfilling life in Love and Light apply to
the actions of Colonel Gadaffi?
I haven't seem much love from him.

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 25^th, 2011 at 4:45pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 25th, 2011 at 4:05pm: Light .. what on earth has that got to do with the topic? Nothing...but that's no surprise considering it's the_light.....he's so disturbed that threads don't matter....

I found the lengthy copied and pasted sections very distracting and not at all relevant to this topic.

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 25^th, 2011 at 3:57pm:

muso wrote on Feb 25th, 2011 at 3:11pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 25th, 2011 at 2:55pm: Hmm it's interesting to note these claims Muso. Now, let me tell you why it's interesting. You see .. people can say whatever they like .. but the Holy Bible states and I quote: Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first - 2 Thess 2 : 3 In short .. there will be a decline in the numbers of believers. More antilegomena. Heresy, anathema ! ἀνάθεμα even, at least to the Early Christians. Come again Muso? I don't think so. Twenty of the twenty-seven books of the New Testament are generally accepted by all to belong to the New Testament canon. These include all the books from Matthew to Philemon, plus I Peter and I John. The set of books over which there was some question of canonicity (the Antilegomena) consist of Hebrews, James, 2 Peter, 2 and 3 John, Jude and Revelation. http://www.ou.edu/faculty/organizations/ouchrfas/reed11.htm

Muso .. I must say some of your posts (in particular those regarding God) have me thinking now ..

Maybe I was thinking of Luther's version.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Feb 25^th, 2011 at 9:31pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 25th, 2011 at 4:45pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 25th, 2011 at 4:05pm: Light .. what on earth has that got to do with the topic? Nothing...but that's no surprise considering it's the_light.....he's so disturbed that threads don't matter.... Apparently the aliens are coming to solve our problems Quote: The great step forward will come when we can meet you, and start to introduce you to advanced technologies. They are planned to cater for your needs so that as quick as possible you can become independent, and start to sample a much better standard of life. Food, energy and water are essentials to give everyone what they need to survive. Peace will be established across the world and we shall ensure that it is kept. At these times a great feeling of elation will sweep the world, as it will be seen that at last Man has taken a quantum leap forward. Religious divides will disappear, as it will be understood that there is only the One God of All That Is. Hope his right sounds cool :)

As long as the aliens don't have book called "To Serve Man".....

muso wrote on Feb 26^th, 2011 at 1:30pm:

Maybe I was thinking of Luther's version.

Huh? Even Luther's version doesn't affect the New Testament book of Thessalonians, Muso.

Here .. see for yourself:

In current Lutheran usage antilegomena describes those of the New Testament books which have obtained a doubtful place in the Canon. These are the Epistles of James and Jude, 2 Peter, 2 and 3 John, the Apocalypse of John, and the Epistle to the Hebrews.

http://www.worldlingo.com/ma/enwiki/en/Antilegomena

If everyone were to believe hard enough, I'm sure that the end of days could become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwzDFvqfcdc&feature=related

Amadd wrote on Feb 26^th, 2011 at 3:34pm:

If everyone were to believe hard enough, I'm sure that the end of days could become a self-fulfilling prophecy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwzDFvqfcdc&feature=related

That was an interesting little video amadd........was plagiarism illegal when the OT was written? someone owes those ancient egyptian's a pretty piastre. Maybe the pope should pay up to the new ruler of Egypt whoever that is, the Muslim Brotherhood???   ah! forget it, it was never going to work anyway.

Bobby. wrote on Feb 25^th, 2011 at 3:20pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 25th, 2011 at 2:36pm: Bobby .. to repent means to be sorry for your past actions and attitudes. It's something we ought to consider every day IMO. Why? Because no one knows if/when the end time is here/near .. and IMO it's irrelevant anyway. YOU or I could die tomorrow (or even tonight). So in that respect .. what really matters is the END TIME for YOU and for ME. I would think it is far better to die with a clear conscience knowing you have put things right with God and with man. But that's just my humble opinion on the matter. But Lisa, You are referring to a different End Time. I am talking about the one in the Bible which is for the whole world at the same time.

I know what you were referring to Bobby .. I was merely questioning its relative importance.

Amadd wrote on Feb 26^th, 2011 at 3:34pm:

If everyone were to believe hard enough, I'm sure that the end of days could become a self-fulfilling prophecy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwzDFvqfcdc&feature=related

A very interesting video.
It means there is no end times -
just the end of this age before the Age of Aquarius.

<<A very interesting video.
It means there is no end times -
just the end of this age before the Age of Aquarius.>>
.......................................................................

Isn't that what the_light said? It sounds more believable than a book written by a bunch of disgruntled church men to keep the peasants in line, and donating.

A very interesting video.
It means there is no end times -
just the end of this age before the Age of Aquarius.

- Bobby

Did you view the clip? I did. THAT clip actually consists of a mish-mash of biblical and historical facts re-organised to tell a completely different and inaccurate story.

That is all it is.

It sounds convincing and factual .. and claims to represent the truth .. doesn't it?

However .. for those of us who know the Holy Scriptures well .. and are well trained in its contents and contexts .. as well as its historical development .. that clip consists of MISREPRESENTATION.

There are many theories and all sorts of speculations regarding this topic.

Let's take a quick look at what the Holy Scriptures say:

No one knows the day or hour when these things will happen, not even the angels in heaven or the Son himself. Only the Father knows.

- Matthew 24:36


Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away from the faith first.

- 2 Thessalonians 2:3

That is why I previously stated:

Bobby .. to repent means to be sorry for your past actions and attitudes.

It's something we ought to consider every day IMO.

Why? Because no one knows if/when the end time is here/near .. and IMO it's irrelevant anyway.

YOU or I could die tomorrow (or even tonight). So in that respect .. what really matters is the END TIME for YOU and for ME.

I would think it is far better to die with a clear conscience knowing you have put things right with God and with man.

evening/morning anyone around :)

arent there those who claim the bible tells the truth?

each to their own belief. whatever helps one get through life and all that jazz.

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 26^th, 2011 at 9:04pm:

There are many theories and all sorts of speculations regarding this topic. Let's take a quick look at what the Holy Scriptures say: No one knows the day or hour when these things will happen, not even the angels in heaven or the Son himself. Only the Father knows. - Matthew 24:36 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away from the faith first. - 2 Thessalonians 2:3 That is why I previously stated: Bobby .. to repent means to be sorry for your past actions and attitudes. It's something we ought to consider every day IMO. Why? Because no one knows if/when the end time is here/near .. and IMO it's irrelevant anyway. YOU or I could die tomorrow (or even tonight). So in that respect .. what really matters is the END TIME for YOU and for ME. I would think it is far better to die with a clear conscience knowing you have put things right with God and with man.

That's very nice Lisa but I try not to walk around with guilt on my shoulders
& neither should you or anyone unless they have done something really awful.

Quote:

I would think it is far better to die with a clear conscience knowing you have put things right with God and with man.

It would depend on your perspective of events.
What sits right with you?

You seem awfully defensive and unable to discuss the possibility that ancient "stories" told a tale of truth because literature was widely unavailable, almost non-existent in fact.

To me, in an illiterate world, I would think that stories concerning the movement of the planets would have been the most logical method of passing on such important information.

With a little applied empathy, it is easily realised that story-telling was then the most effective method of passing on information.

IMO, I think that many truths have been covered in order for "the bible" to be seen as "wholly" truth. I would never have a clear conscience without at least questioning the possibility that so many have been murdered in order for that lie to exist.

I'm not too comfortable to discount the hard and honest work of others who have been murdered in aparrent vain. IMO, they worked and studied very hard to tell a tale of seasonal events; when to sow and when to harvest.
Instead, you believe in a fictional character who walks on water, performs miracles and rises into the sky - that fictional character clears your conscience....go figure  ::)i

However .. for those of us who know the Holy Scriptures well .. and are well trained in its contents and contexts .. as well as its historical development .. that clip consists of MISREPRESENTATION.

__________

i would remind you of the factual event and many different versions

of your testaments and predogmatic post traumatic doctrines

and the mass slaughter of human beings upon your world

genocide rape slaughter brought about unto you by the vatican

and freemasonic jesuit despotic hoodwinked or actively pursueing

this satanic harmonics whichkeeps humanity divided

bound

and ruled,and further suggest religion has done little but cause more

divide and more wars,more secular polarizations critical thinking

behaviours.

i would suggest look within to find your personal divinity

the pope/papa will not save you you will be found in confusion

and a hell yes of your own making

as i say unto you,lo

your time is just about finished to receive this CHRIST

CONSCIOUSNESS.

and those that refuse to look within to that kingdom there

will be choosing to reject CHRIST.

this is within you now without judgement and forgiveness

yet so very much LOVE

and so it is

namaste

-:)

Is this the End Times?
Please vote.

Light must vote too.
Even the enlightened one must vote.

i will not be voting

namaste

-:)

it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 27^th, 2011 at 11:07am:

i will not be voting namaste -:)

So you think you are above voting like us mere mortals?

the question is irrelevant

aaum*

believe and do as you will

-:)

it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 27^th, 2011 at 11:12am:

the question is irrelevant aaum* believe and do as you will -:)

Light - you are forgiven.
With very much love
And so it is.
Namaste.

it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 27^th, 2011 at 11:12am:

the question is irrelevant aaum* believe and do as you will -:)

Named must your fear be before banish it you can.

Live long and prosper \\ //

Light must vote too.
Even the enlightened one must vote.

___________

and so it is i validate reality that

i must do no such thing,further

i observe many in a state of confusion about that

which continues to unfold unto/within you now

so be it

namaste

-:)

it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 27^th, 2011 at 11:22am:

Light must vote too. Even the enlightened one must vote. ___________ and so it is i validate reality that i must do no such thing,further i observe many in a state of confusion about that which continues to unfold unto/within you now so be it namaste -:)

Light - Jesus led his followers by example.
He said "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
Without your guidance you could be called a false prophet.

This is the end of one age & the dawning of a new age.
The Age of Aquarius.
They don't write songs like this anymore.
This is what Light is talking about -
Harmony and understanding / Sympathy and trust abounding / No more need for superstition / All your living dreams are visions / Mystic crystal revelations

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EegRh8Z4H-o

The full Lyrics:

When the moon is in the Seventh House
And Jupiter aligns with Mars
Then peace will guide the planets
And love will steer the stars
This is the dawning of the age of Aquarius
Age of Aquarius
Aquarius!
Aquarius!

Harmony and understanding
Sympathy and trust abounding
No more falsehoods or derisions
Golden living dreams of visions
Mystic crystal revelation
And the mind's true liberation
Aquarius!
Aquarius!

When the moon is in the Seventh House
And Jupiter aligns with Mars
Then peace will guide the planets
And love will steer the stars
This is the dawning of the age of Aquarius
Age of Aquarius

That's right bobby, the God of theology was an intended misinterpretation to control the people at the time, which it still tries to do to this day, with less success....people are educated, science has proven too much.


The sun  (son of God, bible interpretation) ....let it shine in....within.

God is within. Harm no living thing and you will get closer to the God. Love wastefully.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Feb 27^th, 2011 at 2:15pm:

That's right bobby, the God of theology was an intended misinterpretation to control the people at the time, which it still tries to do to this day, with less success....people are educated, science has proven too much. The sun  (son of God, bible interpretation) ....let it shine in....within. God is within. Harm no living thing and you will get closer to the God. Love wastefully.

Yes that is the Mystic crystal revelation.   :)

<<And the mind's true liberation>>
...........................................

Ask questions until you get the answers you desire. Don't hold your breath waiting for the born again brigade though. If a religion can't handle being questioned, they might be hiding something and that could be the truth, either that or they don't have the answers.

Liberate your mind....it's mind blowing lol

it_is_the_light....when do you think the age of aquarius coming?

In the 'Book of World Horoscopes' Nicholas Campion mentions at least seventy dates for the beginning of the Age of Aquarius covering a range of 1500 years

So, from three very different calculations, we have the Age of Aquarius beginning from 2,060 to 2,100 AD.

Yet, why do I sense that we have already entered the Age of Aquarius? Since the invention of mass production, global use of electricity, the car, phone, television, NASA, invention of technology to shrink the globe with computers, and satellite transmission of voice and data like the Internet. These are all related to Aquarius. Since the advent of psychology with Freud, Jung and Adler, the Church as been displaced as a prime spiritual force for many. This century brought the decline of Church power over most governments. They can only advise and recommend now. This is a decline in the force of Pisces and the Great Religions. Since we are within 1 degree of a new age, are we sliding into the change gradually over a century or two? Is the presence of Uranus and soon Neptune in 1998 into Aquarius a preview to the future or a reaching out to pull the Age more into Now?

http://www.accessnewage.com/articles/astro/ageaq1.htm

Shame I won't see the age of Aquarius, would have been so peaceful and cool.

it_is_the_light....when do you think the age of aquarius coming?

____________

if you are waiting for an age of aquarius,

or 2012 to arrive

you are going to miss this and be dissapointed yet

lamenting in a confused hell state of being.

your reality is not bound within a time construct/continuum

it is in every NOW moment.

these things i say unto thee for i LOVE you yes

and observe all as sacred and divine brother/sister beings

of LIGHT

does this bring comfort unto you now?

so be it

namaste

-:)

Light - let the sunshine in.

The Age of Aquarius is upon us yet only a few of those chosen ones know the truth.

And so it is
Namaste.

behold bobby for we about to enter this age soon. Liberate your mind and let the signs be seen. Let life and light and love flow through us all.


namaste    :-)

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Feb 27^th, 2011 at 5:31pm:

behold bobby for we about to enter this age soon. Liberate your mind and let the signs be seen. Let life and light and love flow through us all. namaste    :-)

Pansi,
Have you converted?

namaste  :-)

Bobby. wrote on Feb 27^th, 2011 at 4:56pm:

Light - let the sunshine in. The Age of Aquarius is upon us yet only a few of those chosen ones know the truth. And so it is Namaste.

LOL bobby..."The approximate 2150 years for each age corresponds to the gyration of the Earth's northern zenith points toward each of the twelve Zodiac regions in the sky (Earth's 25,800 year gyroscopic precession divided by the twelve Zodiac points). According to different astrologers' calculations, approximated dates for entering the Age of Aquarius range from 1447 AD (Terry MacKinnell) to 3597 (John Addey)"

The 'Age of Aquarius' (for MY generation) started in about 1965...

LOL bobby..."The approximate 2150 years for each age corresponds to the gyration of the Earth's northern zenith points toward each of the twelve Zodiac regions in the sky

___________

incorrect

you have not included the 13th sign ophuicus

the serpent barer

between scorpio and saggitarius

so you again gizmo,with forgiveness

are way off

this is true to your current form and the form guide

on you has had a current theme as it were

of confusion

this is entirely correct and how you view your reality

research the "mayan calander crystalinks" link and

"ophuicus "properly  i would suggest or continue to repeat

mis truths

your confusions have no bareing on true reality

namaste

-:)

it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 27^th, 2011 at 9:36pm:

LOL bobby..."The approximate 2150 years for each age corresponds to the gyration of the Earth's northern zenith points toward each of the twelve Zodiac regions in the sky ___________ incorrect you have not included the 13th sign ophuicus the serpent barer between scorpio and saggitarius so you again gizmo,with forgiveness are way off this is true to your current form and the form guide on you has had a current theme as it were of confusion this is entirely correct and how you view your reality research the "mayan calander crystalinks" link and "ophuicus "properly  i would suggest or continue to repeat mis truths your confusions have no bareing on true reality namaste -:)

The Zodiac only consists of 12 signs....Ophiuchus is NOT one of them...it's a constellation, not a an astrological sign...

with forgiveness,if you may indulge me..

i always get a good laugh at some of the things my brother/sister

being gizmo has posted over the past months

great comic relief

namaste

-:)

The Zodiac only consists of 12 signs....Ophiuchus is NOT one of them...it's a constellation, not a an astrological sign...

____________________

incorrect

i shall continue to correct you in the morning

if no other has done so.

check mate

namaste

-:)

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Feb 27^th, 2011 at 5:31pm:

behold bobby for we about to enter this age soon. Liberate your mind and let the signs be seen. Let life and light and love flow through us all. namaste    :-)

And so it is with very much love.
Namaste.

To be gullible enough to buy this "end times" crap, you'd first have to....

a) Believe in God.
b) Believe that the Bible is the legit word of God.
c) Believe in the "end times" interpretation of the Bible.
d) Be stupid enough to think that the times we live in are the worst since the Bible was written and as such the most perfect period for these "end times" to occur in near 2000 years.

Life_goes_on wrote on Feb 27^th, 2011 at 10:56pm:

To be gullible enough to buy this "end times" crap, you'd first have to.... a) Believe in God. b) Believe that the Bible is the legit word of God. c) Believe in the "end times" interpretation of the Bible. d) Be stupid enough to think that the times we live in are the worst since the Bible was written and as such the most perfect period for these "end times" to occur in near 2000 years.

But what if the end times refers to the end of the Age of Pisces
& the new Age of Aquarius?
This could be a state of mind rather than a physical event!  

Astrology....... yet more mumbo jumbo which is just as out there as a belief in sky spooks.

Life_goes_on wrote on Feb 27^th, 2011 at 11:17pm:

Astrology....... yet more mumbo jumbo which is just as out there as a belief in sky spooks.

What about? :


Quote:

Harmony and understanding Sympathy and trust abounding No more falsehoods or derisions Golden living dreams of visions Mystic crystal revelation And the mind's true liberation

Hippy sh!t.

Quote:

Harmony and understanding Sympathy and trust abounding No more falsehoods or derisions Golden living dreams of visions Mystic crystal revelation And the mind's true liberation

Life_goes_on wrote on Feb 27^th, 2011 at 11:36pm:

Hippy sh!t.

life_goes_on,
Are you calling me a hippy?

Bobby .. a hippy??

That's funny lol :P

perceptions_now wrote on Feb 27^th, 2011 at 8:18pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Feb 27th, 2011 at 5:31pm: behold bobby for we about to enter this age soon. Liberate your mind and let the signs be seen. Let life and light and love flow through us all. namaste    :-)   Pansi, Have you converted? namaste  :-)

lol....seems like you have too

namastgo  :-)

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 28^th, 2011 at 7:48am:

Bobby .. a hippy?? That's funny lol :P

Maybe I am Lisa,
Those words from that song sound so seductive.  :)

it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 27^th, 2011 at 9:55pm:

The Zodiac only consists of 12 signs....Ophiuchus is NOT one of them...it's a constellation, not a an astrological sign... ____________________ incorrect i shall continue to correct you in the morning if no other has done so. check mate namaste -:)

He's actually right on this one Gizmo. Ophiucus (the Serpent Bearer) is actually a constellation on the ecliptic (zodiac). It's still used by Hindu astrologers, but dropped out of "Western" Astrology early on.

Belief in Astrology is more widespread than belief in God today, but it's all pseudoscientific twaddle.

This could be a state of mind rather than a physical event!

__________

a state of mind yes,

further a state of comprehension in being fully conscious

in this 3rd dimension

fear not

for i am " that i am that i am " with thee...

comprende'?

namaste

-:)

The Zodiac only consists of 12 signs....Ophiuchus is NOT one of them...it's a constellation, not a an astrological sign...

_____________

yes the physical universe is a virtual reality construct.

true reality is total consciousness

and so it is the 13th sign ophiucus is the 13th cog,as it were

in your reality.

no longer is this a 12 constellation paradigm.

do any deny this?

this is the 13th sign ophiucus so these things gizmo,

you project from the 12 constellation/astrological paradigm

are again mis truth,with forgiveness.

i validate reality that this fact is upon you

there are 13 signs and here is the chart..these are the facts that

mainsream humanity refuse to integrate for it would

smash the gregorian calander into oblivion and insignificance.

i validate reality here

New Zodiac Sign Ophiuchus; New Zodiac Dates
January 17, 2011 8:22 AM
By Eric Lander
New Zodiac Sign: Ophiuchus.  Many are tuning into today as the news this week is that the standard zodiac signs may be out of date.

Ophiuchus is a rarely used astrological sign, not included in most versions of the Zodiac.

Are You an Ophiuchus? Check th...
It is also known as Serpentarius.

Astronomer Parke Kunkle told NBC News this week that the Earth's changing alignment in the last 3,000 years has prompted new consideration of the sign into standard zodiacs.

Read More: Astrologers and Ast...
In fact, the sign you are born into now are different than what you've been led to believe your entire life.

Kunkle  said: "This is not something that happened today. This has gone on for thousands of years," says Kunkle.

"Because of this change of tilt, the Earth is really over here in effect and Sun is in a different constellation than it was 3,000 years ago."

About the Zodiac

In astronomy, the zodiac (Greek: ζῳδιακός, zōdiakos) is the ring of constellations that lines the ecliptic, which is the apparent path of the Sun across the celestial sphere over the course of the year. The paths of the Moon and planets also lie roughly within the ecliptic, and so are also within the constellations of the zodiac. In astrology, the zodiac denotes those signs that divide the ecliptic into twelve equal zones of celestial longitude. As such, the zodiac is a celestial coordinate system, or more specifically an ecliptic coordinate system, taking the ecliptic as the origin of latitude, and the position of the sun at vernal equinox as the origin of longitude.

OLD ZODIAC
Aquarius:  Jan 20 – Feb 18
Pisces: Feb 19 – Mar 20
Aries:  Mar 21 – Apr 19
Taurus:  Apr 20 – May 20
Gemini:  May 21 – Jun 20
Cancer:  Jun 21 – Jul 22
Leo:  Jul 23 – Aug 22
Virgo:  Aug 23 – Sep 22
Libra:  Sep 23 – Oct 22
Scorpio:  Oct 23 – Nov 21
Sagittarius:  Nov 22 – Dec 21
Capricorn:  Dec 22 – Jan 19
NEW ZODIAC
Capricorn: Jan. 20 – Feb. 16
Aquarius: Feb. 16 – March 11
Pisces: March 11- April 18
Aries: April 18- May 13
Taurus: May 13- June 21
Gemini: June 21- July 20
Cancer: July 20- Aug. 10
Leo: Aug. 10- Sept. 16
Virgo: Sept. 16- Oct. 30
Libra: Oct. 30- Nov. 23
Scorpio: Nov. 23- Nov. 29
Ophiuchus: Nov. 29- Dec. 17
Sagittarius: Dec. 17- Jan. 20
Many people are now wondering  about the unknown implications of their new sign, and about what their new and perhaps altered new zodiac personality traits are supposed to be.  What about the new 13th zodiac sign Ophiuchus personality?   People born under the sign of Ophiuchus are said to be honest, intellectual, sexually magnetic, jealous and prone to change.  Find out more about the 13th Zodiac sign Ophiuchus in the video below…

__________

scroll down,short movie on this subject

http://kozla.com/new-zodiac-signs-2011-meet-13th-zodiac-sign-ophiuchus/227905

with forgiveness,i am that i am in service unto humanity

for the good of all yes and with

so very much lOVE

namaste

-:)

because of

the spacetime continuum,attached to a linear timeline

NOTHING stays the same

the only constant is change

and so it is

if you fail to realize and integrate the collective consciousness

into this now moment,and gel the universal facts within

the unity consciousness

well

you are bound to have some confusions are you not?

and so it is i observe many confusions from ye beloved ones

with forgiveness

i validate reality

namaste

-:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3ILJzwWZNo&feature=feedu

http://lightworkers.org/channeling/125716/positive-change

positive change

Dear ones i am being directed to talk about positive change as this is what is occurring to many. The inner and the outer become one as with many levels of reality at present. My guides and helps are impressing on me the feelings that many are going through massive changes on the outside changing how they look how they think life situations big moves this is all part of becoming unified with the two sides of the self. The inner the spirit or the soul which is then reflected to the outside all is one. This is telling you to take note of the signs happening in your life as they are being directed by the light that shines within. Letting go of the old bringing what is called life review looking at where you need to move or change in your life. This will bring great rewards now is the time to allow the new to manifest do not fear it embrace it. The Angelics are bringing great opportunity for harmony at present relating to the many levels of the self. This is part of the opening at present. Life situations see them as being relative to the shifting ocurring on the inside do not fight them as they will lead true happiness and freedom in the end. This needs to happen to allow those who are opening to the light energies within and remember on some level you have created this,asked for this, all is one nothing is seperate just embrace as you move towards who you truly are take strength in the knowledge that you have truly begun your journey now. MY
love my light peace be with you as always brothers and sisters of light

it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 28^th, 2011 at 10:39am:

OLD ZODIAC Aquarius:  Jan 20 – Feb 18 Pisces: Feb 19 – Mar 20 Aries:  Mar 21 – Apr 19 Taurus:  Apr 20 – May 20 Gemini:  May 21 – Jun 20 Cancer:  Jun 21 – Jul 22 Leo:  Jul 23 – Aug 22 Virgo:  Aug 23 – Sep 22 Libra:  Sep 23 – Oct 22 Scorpio:  Oct 23 – Nov 21 Sagittarius:  Nov 22 – Dec 21 Capricorn:  Dec 22 – Jan 19 NEW ZODIAC Capricorn: Jan. 20 – Feb. 16 Aquarius: Feb. 16 – March 11 Pisces: March 11- April 18 Aries: April 18- May 13 Taurus: May 13- June 21 Gemini: June 21- July 20 Cancer: July 20- Aug. 10 Leo: Aug. 10- Sept. 16 Virgo: Sept. 16- Oct. 30 Libra: Oct. 30- Nov. 23 Scorpio: Nov. 23- Nov. 29 Ophiuchus: Nov. 29- Dec. 17 Sagittarius: Dec. 17- Jan. 20 Many people are now wondering  about the unknown implications of their new sign, and about what their new and perhaps altered new zodiac personality traits are supposed to be.  What about the new 13th zodiac sign Ophiuchus personality?   People born under the sign of Ophiuchus are said to be honest, intellectual, sexually magnetic, jealous and prone to change.  Find out more about the 13th Zodiac sign Ophiuchus in the video below… __________ scroll down,short movie on this subject http://kozla.com/new-zodiac-signs-2011-meet-13th-zodiac-sign-ophiuchus/227905 with forgiveness,i am that i am in service unto humanity for the good of all yes and with so very much lOVE namaste -:)

The Placidus fixed house system changed this - they fixed the dates back in 15 something.

In Indian astrology, the new dates are used. This is the difference between Western and Vedic astrology: fixed houses versus moving stellar constelations. We use the position of the earth in relation to the sun, they use the stars themselves.

We continue to use the old Zodiac.

The Placidus fixed house system changed this - they fixed the dates back in 15 something.

__________

more like flacidus unfixed system

more freemasonic doctrin

incorrect no matter how you spin this

your universal construct from earths position NOW

is the 13

do you deny this?

namaste

-:)

OLD ZODIAC
Aquarius:  Jan 20 – Feb 18
Pisces: Feb 19 – Mar 20
Aries:  Mar 21 – Apr 19
Taurus:  Apr 20 – May 20
Gemini:  May 21 – Jun 20
Cancer:  Jun 21 – Jul 22
Leo:  Jul 23 – Aug 22
Virgo:  Aug 23 – Sep 22
Libra:  Sep 23 – Oct 22
Scorpio:  Oct 23 – Nov 21
Sagittarius:  Nov 22 – Dec 21
Capricorn:  Dec 22 – Jan 19


NEW ZODIAC
Capricorn: Jan. 20 – Feb. 16
Aquarius: Feb. 16 – March 11
Pisces: March 11- April 18
Aries: April 18- May 13
Taurus: May 13- June 21
Gemini: June 21- July 20
Cancer: July 20- Aug. 10
Leo: Aug. 10- Sept. 16
Virgo: Sept. 16- Oct. 30
Libra: Oct. 30- Nov. 23
Scorpio: Nov. 23- Nov. 29
Ophiuchus: Nov. 29- Dec. 17
Sagittarius: Dec. 17- Jan. 20

it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 28^th, 2011 at 11:17am:

incorrect no matter how you spin this

If you're talking about Astrology, I agree.

it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 28^th, 2011 at 11:17am:

The Placidus fixed house system changed this - they fixed the dates back in 15 something. __________ more like flacidus unfixed system more freemasonic doctrin incorrect no matter how you spin this your universal construct from earths position NOW is the 13 do you deny this? namaste -:)

I don't deny it, but it's a relative question. Galileo first proposed that the earth revolves around the sun, rather than the other way around. This changed things. Can you deny this?

The fixed house system relates to the seasons and the earth's movement around the sun - which does not vary much.

The system you describe relates to our solar system's orbit and the way this changes our position in relation to the stellar constelations.

The Vedic system concentrates on ages of 24,000 years, and is much longer-term than Western astrology. We will see the stars return to their "original" positions in about 23, 500 years.

They are different systems. Each has its value.

Well, IF it gets any HOTTER, for any LONGER, then we will be in HELL?

Welcome to Perth!

Hot one day, hotter the next?
=============

Will it ever end? Perth scorches through record-breaking summer

Perth is on the brink of its hottest summer in 33 years, news that will come as no surprise for those who are sweating their way through a stifling February heatwave.
http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/will-it-ever-end-perth-scorches-through-recordbreaking-summer-20110224-1b68h.html
=====================
Perth Past 5 Days this month »
               Minimum      Maximum
Mon
Feb 28       25.3°C      34.9°C (now) - feels like 37°C
Sun
Feb 27      23.1°C      37.4°C      
Sat
Feb 26      22.9°C      36.2°C      
Fri
Feb 25      24.5°C      37.5°C      
Thu
Feb 24      23.8°C      35.3°C
http://weather.ninemsn.com.au/wa/perth/perth
==================
The water situation, just for those interested in cooling down, -
Current Storage this day, this year:      164.94 gigalitres (GL)
Percentage of Total Capacity this day, this year:      26.5 %

By way of comparison -
Current Storage this day, last year: 261.52 gigalitres (GL)
Percentage of Total Capacity this day, last year: 42%

http://www.watercorporation.com.au/D/dams_storage.cfm

perceptions_now wrote on Feb 28^th, 2011 at 1:11pm:

Well, IF it gets any HOTTER, for any LONGER, then we will be in HELL? Welcome to Perth! Hot one day, hotter the next? ============= Will it ever end? Perth scorches through record-breaking summer Perth is on the brink of its hottest summer in 33 years, news that will come as no surprise for those who are sweating their way through a stifling February heatwave. http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/will-it-ever-end-perth-scorches-through-recordbreaking-summer-20110224-1b68h.html ===================== Perth Past 5 Days this month »                Minimum      Maximum Mon Feb 28       25.3°C      34.9°C (now) - feels like 37°C Sun Feb 27      23.1°C      37.4°C       Sat Feb 26      22.9°C      36.2°C       Fri Feb 25      24.5°C      37.5°C       Thu Feb 24      23.8°C      35.3°C http://weather.ninemsn.com.au/wa/perth/perth ================== The water situation, just for those interested in cooling down, - Current Storage this day, this year:      164.94 gigalitres (GL) Percentage of Total Capacity this day, this year:      26.5 % By way of comparison - Current Storage this day, last year: 261.52 gigalitres (GL) Percentage of Total Capacity this day, last year: 42% http://www.watercorporation.com.au/D/dams_storage.cfm

UPDATE -
Now it is      37.3°C - Far out!!!

WOW.....
That's 'really really hot' huh???

Considering on Feb 26 1997 it was 44.5....

That's way HOT!!!!  my son was in Perth in the summer and he said it didn't seem as hot because it hasn't got the humidity like here in Qld. I reckon 37 is hot whatever way you look at it.


But don't worry perce, it's the last day of summer, lovely cool autumn day coming up tomorrow lol

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 28^th, 2011 at 2:36pm:

WOW..... That's 'really really hot' huh??? Considering on Feb 26 1997 it was 44.5....

1) I was referring to the long spell of heat, not simply to one day.

2) Perth may shortly chalk up its longest run of warm days (30 & over).

3) Perth looks like having its hottest Summer for over 30 years.

4) Perth is also having a terrible dry spell, now down to 26.5% of Dam capacity.
Fortunately (?), we have had some brilliant Politicians (?), from both major parties, that have also been hell bent on using up as much of Perth's major local acquifer's, as they can.

They have also persistently avoided a commitment to connect Perth to the largest source of fresh water in Australia, which is based in Kunnurrura, which is in the far North of WA.    

However, we are indeed fortunate (?), that the local Premier is about to remake the Perth city foreshore & surrounds, at a cost of some $400 Million.

Which could have been used as a starter for the permanent security of Perth's fresh water supplies, but fortunately (?) it will go to make another monument, to another Premiers term in office.

Isn't that great, WHOOPPEE???

Yes, I know, one too many P's, but I am soo much more relieved, now?

PS - Perth Temp at 2.04pm was 39.0c.

it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 28^th, 2011 at 11:17am:

The Placidus fixed house system changed this - they fixed the dates back in 15 something. __________ more like flacidus unfixed system more freemasonic doctrin incorrect no matter how you spin this your universal construct from earths position NOW is the 13 do you deny this? namaste -:)

What has "13" to do with the earth's position now?

13 is the number of months in the ancient lunar calendar.

12 is the number of months in the solar calendar - a calendar we inhereted from Rome, who were influenced by the Egyptians and, before them, the Babylonians.

Pyramids were constructed using pyramid inches and feet, based on the number 12. The pyramids were designed to align with the sun at certain times of the year: the Winter and Summer equinoxes.

Our counting and measurements changed with the Hindu-Arabic decimal system we use today, based on the number 10. No matter how you try to do it, you can't turn the calendar into a decimal system. Hence, we still use the 12 months of the year and have a 24 hour day. We are, after all, subject to certain natural laws, such as the rotation of the earth around the sun.

However, many civilizations used a mix of lunar and solar cycles, such as the Chinese, who base their system of astrology on the cycle of Jupiter, which takes 12 years to revolve around the sun (11.86 years to be exact). This is why the Chinese calendar starts at a different date every year, which corresponds with the new moon in the New Year (this year, the year of the Rabbit).

However, if you're talking about the earth's position now, you also need to place it in relative terms within our galaxy. Vedic astrology looks at ages of 2400 years, such as the alleged "age of Aquarius" some say is dawning. Great ages of around 28800 years are described, such as the age of Kali Yuga, or Dark Age believed to also be dawning now. These are all denominations of 12.

These ages involve the movement of the sun - our solar system - in time and space - within our galaxy, the Milky Way. The sun also has an orbit, and our place on Earth changes in relation to this.

The Tibetan Kalachakra system - or "time wheel" - describes a similar process: time cycles or ages. There are many predictions about our current period in this system. I'm not sure about an actual end to planet Earth, but Kalachakra astrologers predict diseases over the next few hundred years that will wipe out a significant proportion of the human race.

A number of their predictions have already come true.

Like the Vedic Kali Yuga, an age of greed and ignorance is also predcited within the Kalachakra system. In Buddhism, disease is the result of greed, hatred and ignorance. The dominant economic model in the world today is based on the benefits of competition and individual greed, (vis a vis Adam Smith: the basis of neo-classical (or neoliberal) economics.

You only have to look at the slums of the world to see the disease that this ethic has produced - so far.

Sadly, we can't turn these ages around. It would be like trying to turn back the clock. But as we move through time and space, we change. Change is the only constant. How we change is the result of what we think, say and do.

This is what some describe as karma, but you can call it what you want.

13, 12, Freemasonic doctrine, it all comes back to how we conduct ourselves. Of course, we are also subject to natural laws and phases. Like most of the Bible, the End Times in the Book of Revelation describe two processes similtaneously: the outer, and the inner worlds.

What has "13" to do with the earth's position now?

13 is the number of months in the ancient lunar calendar.

_________

we have come full circle,

that which was once

will be so once more

this cycle in duality is in completion

have you noticed?

and so it is

namaste

-:)

it_is_the_light wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2011 at 7:49am:

What has "13" to do with the earth's position now? 13 is the number of months in the ancient lunar calendar. _________ we have come full circle, that which was once will be so once more this cycle in duality is in completion have you noticed? and so it is namaste -:)

Let's face it you no personal attacks. You have no fkucing idea, so you just make up sh!t.
You are the most no personal attacks that I have ever been so unfortunate to encounter.
Know your place in idiotville and reside there.

All that you do is provide reason for the liars to continue their lies.
Give it up you personal attack removed.

There is a time for rationalism and a time for fantasy.
The floor is yours in fantasia, but don't fcku up a good rational discussion OK?

Umm yeah..so include those "personal attacks" and you will see that they weren't so sinister.

Just another bs ordinance from a bs organisation.

You left the worst of it and deleted the nothings.
Do you think that we are all idiots?

Really Muso, get a grip will ya.
Are you pandering to Lisa?
Who is going to believe in your bs?

Don't feed the troll.

You have a bit of a prob there with truth I see muso?
Has that existed throughout childhood? Hmm...we must investigate.

Get real buddy..cut the bs. I ain't buying it at all.

Amadd wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2011 at 9:32am:

You have a bit of a prob there with truth I see muso? Has that existed throughout childhood? Hmm...we must investigate. Get real buddy..cut the bs. I ain't buying it at all.

Lots of people have faith based worldviews in Australia. IITL is no different to them.

Quote:

Don't feed the troll.

YOU are the troll. Trolling for a reason to moderate.

Umm yeah..so include those "personal attacks" and you will see that they weren't so sinister.

Just another bs ordinance from a bs organisation.

You left the worst of it and deleted the nothings.

_________

i hear personal attacks

you are forgiven beloved one

namaste

-:)

Lots of people have faith based worldviews in Australia. IITL is no different to them.

___________

i do not judge any other

all are forgiven as i continue to stand within

that LIGHT within me

that divine spark is also within you therefore

i do not judge ye

and forgive unconditionally

with grace

namaste

-:)

Our resident new age person called Light is greater than Jesus.

Jesus forgave only those who asked.
Light forgives you when you don't even ask.
He must surely be a prophet !

it_is_the_light wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2011 at 10:13am:

i do not judge any other all are forgiven as i continue to stand within that LIGHT within me that divine spark is also within you therefore i do not judge ye and forgive unconditionally with grace namaste -:)

It_is_the_Light - you are obviously a very forgiving Christian - but this isn't a strictly Christian forum, although some would like it to be.

People are going to get annoyed with you because some of us hate Christianity being shoved down our throats unnecessarily and in such a superficial way - particularly if it's off topic.

There is a spiritual forum for this and where people will embrace your teachings.


Quote:

Don't feed the troll.

Muso - there has to be a little bit of humanity allowed on this board also. The biggest hassle here has always been the political propaganda and the deliberately disruptive trolls and that's basically what moderation is needed for.

You and Lisa might be strict Christians - but it doesn't necessarily mean the rest of us want to embrace it.

Amadd wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2011 at 9:26am:

Umm yeah..so include those "personal attacks" and you will see that they weren't so sinister. Just another bs ordinance from a bs organisation. You left the worst of it and deleted the nothings. Do you think that we are all idiots? Really Muso, get a grip will ya. Are you pandering to Lisa? Who is going to believe in your bs?

Amadd .. could you refrain from needlessly bringing me into your arguments with other Moderators please?

Many thanks in advance.

mantra wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2011 at 10:26am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Mar 3rd, 2011 at 10:13am: i do not judge any other all are forgiven as i continue to stand within that LIGHT within me that divine spark is also within you therefore i do not judge ye and forgive unconditionally with grace namaste -:) It_is_the_Light - you are obviously a very forgiving Christian - but this isn't a strictly Christian forum, although some would like it to be. People are going to get annoyed with you because some of us hate Christianity being shoved down our throats unnecessarily and in such a superficial way - particularly if it's off topic. There is a spiritual forum for this and where people will embrace your teachings. Quote: Don't feed the troll. Muso - there has to be a little bit of humanity allowed on this board also. The biggest hassle here has always been the political propaganda and the deliberately disruptive trolls and that's basically what moderation is needed for. You and Lisa might be strict Christians - but it doesn't necessarily mean the rest of us want to embrace it.

Very interesting remarks Mantra.

1) It is my understanding that It Is The Light ISN'T a Christian.

2) Many thanks for branding me a strict Christian .. in actual fact I am perceived by other Christians as being a VERY moderate one. I know I certainly identify as a moderate Christian.

3) I never knew Muso was a Christian .. let alone a strict one. Hmm it will be interesting to see if Muso agrees with you.

It_is_the_Light - you are obviously a very forgiving Christian - but this isn't a strictly Christian forum, although some would like it to be.

___________

i reject religion

i observe the CHRIST within all

and so it is there yes

within

i regard all as sacred and divine

with forgiveness

namaste

-:)

Ohh well there you go Mantra.

It seems you've rushed ahead. It's probably a good idea if you don't label people next time. However .. if you do feel the need to do so .. check with them first. You may be surprised at what they have to say about it.

i do not bind myself or my consciousness unto a book

written by another

i look within to that which is there,the CHRIST

this CHRIST exists within all human beings experiencing

this 3rd dimension in the state of duality,

we are multidimensional beings of LIGHT no less..

you may continue with or without grace

this is your freewill choice not by my leave

it is yours and so it is and shall it be

namaste

-:)

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2011 at 10:35am:

3) I never knew Muso was a Christian .. let alone a strict one. Hmm it will be interesting to see if Muso agrees with you.

I never realised I was a Christian either. What denomination am I?

It's ok though. People have labelled me as left wing, right wing,  greenie, gay etc.

For the record, I am none of the above.

i further denounce and reject the pope

the monarchy

satanic freemasonic orders

established despotic governments,

with members

who have sworn alliegances unto the monarchy and or

vatican.

i am a soveriegn being of this planet and answer

to no one entity less than my creator

and exist as a servant unto humanity for the good of all

transperant in the LIGHT in which i stand within

observing humanity and all sentiant life as sacred

and divine and a part of divine unity consciousness

namaste

-:)

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2011 at 10:35am:

Very interesting remarks Mantra. 1) It is my understanding that It Is The Light ISN'T a Christian. 2) Many thanks for branding me a strict Christian .. in actual fact I am perceived by other Christians as being a VERY moderate one. I know I certainly identify as a moderate Christian. 3) I never knew Muso was a Christian .. let alone a strict one. Hmm it will be interesting to see if Muso agrees with you.

I over-reacted Lisa and apologise if I hurt your feelings - the same goes for Muso, but it had to be said.

Obviously "strict" Christian was too harsh a term - and I won't use it again.

The whole point of posting here becomes ridiculous when members take umbrage at the smallest slight as per your post Lisa.

Trolling, being disruptive and abusing people consistently is a little different to speaking your mind.

It's not necessary for this board to become so sterile. It can still function with a little bit of anger thrown in occasionally.

muso wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2011 at 10:50am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 3rd, 2011 at 10:35am: 3) I never knew Muso was a Christian .. let alone a strict one. Hmm it will be interesting to see if Muso agrees with you. I never realised I was a Christian either. What denomination am I?

LMAO! Well .. you've been told now Muso lol :P

Where is that Johari Window topic I started lol :)

No problem with anger. Just direct it at the content - not the person.


Quote:

Personal criticism Do not post personal criticism of other members. Do not respond to personal criticism of yourself or other members. This is the biggest problem on OzPolitic. Too many members are easily baited into off-topic personal exchanges. If you participate in any kind of flame war you will be suspended, regardless of who started it or who you think ‘deserved it’.

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2011 at 10:54am:

LMAO! Well .. you've been told now Muso lol :P Where is that Johari Window topic I started lol :)

If the food is good, I could fit in being Christian some time in the next fortnight. At the moment I'm Hindu. Hinduism is delicious.

mantra wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2011 at 10:51am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 3rd, 2011 at 10:35am: Very interesting remarks Mantra. 1) It is my understanding that It Is The Light ISN'T a Christian. 2) Many thanks for branding me a strict Christian .. in actual fact I am perceived by other Christians as being a VERY moderate one. I know I certainly identify as a moderate Christian. 3) I never knew Muso was a Christian .. let alone a strict one. Hmm it will be interesting to see if Muso agrees with you. I over-reacted Lisa and apologise if I hurt your feelings - the same goes for Muso, but it had to be said. Obviously "strict" Christian was too harsh a term - and I won't use it again. The whole point of posting here becomes ridiculous when members take umbrage at the smallest slight as per your post Lisa. Trolling, being disruptive and abusing people consistently is a little different to speaking your mind. It's not necessary for this board to become so sterile. It can still function with a little bit of anger thrown in occasionally.

Mantra .. you haven't hurt my feelings. I'm a tough cookie .. so it's all good :)

I was merely trying to make the point that labelling people isn't a good idea because you may very well get the label wrong.

NB In in all 3 instances this morning .. your labels were incorrect.

One other point .. you do realize people are allowed to take umbrage esp when branded by others with labels they've never seen before/cannot identify with.

Muso - is calling a person a strict Christian personal abuse?

So now there's no labelling - even inadvertently? You've got your job cut out for you Muso.

Lisa - can I say the way you fawn over Muso's every word is annoying or is that labelling?

He can speak for himself.

muso wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2011 at 11:01am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 3rd, 2011 at 10:54am: LMAO! Well .. you've been told now Muso lol :P Where is that Johari Window topic I started lol :) If the food is good, I could fit in being Christian some time in the next fortnight. At the moment I'm Hindu. Hinduism is delicious.

Sheesh! It MUST be true .. the way to a man's heart (and soul ?) is through his stomach!

In which case .. I'm off to cook something tantalising and delicious lol :P

mantra wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2011 at 11:04am:

Muso - is calling a person a strict Christian personal abuse?

I was more amused by it than anything else. Chill, Relax. Everything is cool.

mantra wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2011 at 11:04am:

Muso - is calling a person a strict Christian personal abuse? So now there's no labelling - even inadvertently? You've got your job cut out for you Muso. Lisa - can I say the way you fawn over Muso's every word is annoying or is that labelling? He can speak for himself.

Refer to my previous posts. They cover all your above concerns.

Oh and Muso lol you see that ^^^??? I've been fawning over you ok lol!!!!

You better remember that NEXT time we have a major disagreement over anything to do with the Bible. K???

muso wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2011 at 10:50am:

I never realised I was a Christian either. What denomination am I? It's ok though. People have labelled me as left wing, right wing,  greenie, gay etc. For the record, I am none of the above.

Actually technically I didn't label you. I said you might be strict Christians - a suggestion only.

Mantra .. LOL! Nice try .. the WHOLE of your post IN CONTEXT AND in reference to all 3 posters .. kinda gives you away though.

Anyways .. time to move on? I think so.

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2011 at 11:22am:

mantra wrote on Mar 3rd, 2011 at 11:04am: Muso - is calling a person a strict Christian personal abuse? So now there's no labelling - even inadvertently? You've got your job cut out for you Muso. Lisa - can I say the way you fawn over Muso's every word is annoying or is that labelling? He can speak for himself. Refer to my previous posts. They cover all your above concerns. Oh and Muso lol you see that ^^^??? I've been fawning over you ok lol!!!! You better remember that NEXT time we have a major disagreement over anything to do with the Bible. K???

Well it must be my wonderful personality. It wouldn't be my incredible good looks, because you haven't met me :P

SEE WHAT YOU'VE DONE NOW MANTRA!!!!!

His head can't even fit through this topic's front (or back or side ) door!

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2011 at 11:28am:

Anyways .. time to move on? I think so.

Yes. So as far as eschatological writings are concerned, where did they originate? I suspect that they have their origins in Ancient Greek Religion, or possible Gnosticism.

Christianity was one of a large number of Sacred Mystery religions that were in vogue towards the middle of the 4th Century CE in the rapidly decaying Roman Empire. It would be interesting to reconstruct the family tree of these Mystery Religions to see what they had in common. (I guess today's analogy would be the various splinter groups of the various  UFO Cults. Which one will survive?)

What was it that made it win? Were early Christian monks better fighters than other monks, or perhaps more devious? - or was it all part of a divine a pre-ordained plot?

>> sighs <<

You're such a show off Muso!!! (Note to Mantra I am name calling here NOT fawning lol)

Hmmm  .. I'm just trying to remember if this was the topic where I kinda put you in the corner for being a tad ignorant naughty :P

I think it may have been. I do recall I had a few comebacks which silenced you somewhat lol :)

Let me have a read back .. after which I'm gonna deal with you ever so FIRMLY .. as per my usual manner.

I've got to toss a few cookies to the militant Atheists too, Lisa.  That's not to say that I disagree totally with the points I'm making.

If you want to find the 'weak' parts of a religion, look at what some of the competing religions say about it.  

In the end, maybe it's just a "Coles" versus "Woolworths" syndrome.

What I wanna know is: at what point in history did the Catholic establishment decide that it wasn't a good thing for their clergy to breed - and why!?

Perhaps they really did believe in evolution - and didn't want to risk passing on their genes...

Either that, or maybe they believed they were perfect and therefore didn't want their superiror genetic material diluted...

(BTW, the first question was serious, no need to take the bait on the subsequent rhetorical bits.)

Come on guys - get back to the topic -
you haven't all voted yet.

I am a good girl Bobby!

I voted in your poll.

Here is my vote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv3uCb2PQF8&feature=related

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2011 at 12:05pm:

I am a good girl Bobby! I voted in your poll.

You're the best girl Lisa.   :)

muso wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2011 at 11:01am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 3rd, 2011 at 10:54am: LMAO! Well .. you've been told now Muso lol :P Where is that Johari Window topic I started lol :) If the food is good, I could fit in being Christian some time in the next fortnight. At the moment I'm Hindu. Hinduism is delicious.

Hmmmm I don't know any good recipes for Hindus.......they struggle so much it's hard to get them in the oven....

(joke)

the question is irrelevant

'is this the end times'

yes and no is the correct answer

it is irrelevant

namaste

-:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7Xm8taiDUw&feature=feedu

Judgment Day May 21 2011 Part 1

________

interesting questions and answers raised here

namaste

-:)

muso wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2011 at 11:52am:

I've got to toss a few cookies to the militant Atheists too, Lisa.  That's not to say that I disagree totally with the points I'm making. If you want to find the 'weak' parts of a religion, look at what some of the competing religions say about it.   In the end, maybe it's just a "Coles" versus "Woolworths" syndrome.

You may actually be fairly close there muso...with the monotheist religions anyway....
Not too sure about the pantheist ones (some of them seemed to be "names have been changed to protect the innocent" deals)

muso wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2011 at 11:39am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 3rd, 2011 at 11:28am: Anyways .. time to move on? I think so. Yes. So as far as eschatological writings are concerned, where did they originate? I suspect that they have their origins in Ancient Greek Religion, or possible Gnosticism.

Ahh eschatology! One of my fav subjects lol :P

Well Muso .. as it so happens .. there are various "species" of eschatology.

These are as follows:

1) Christian

2) Islamic

3) Jewish

4) Hindu

5) Zoroastrian

6) Inter religious

Which one are you referring to?

it_is_the_light wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2011 at 2:15pm:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7Xm8taiDUw&feature=feedu Judgment Day May 21 2011 Part 1 ________ interesting questions and answers raised here namaste -:)

I'm sorry Light, but I view people who attempt to predict a specific date for the End of the World, (Rapture) the same as I view people who claim to have 'worked out' the exact time, day, month and year of 'Creation'.......Either THEY are deluded, or they think the rest of us are gullible....

Bobby. wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2011 at 2:03pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 3rd, 2011 at 12:05pm: I am a good girl Bobby! I voted in your poll. You're the best girl Lisa.   :)

That's just great. Now we're both fawning over each other lol :)

I'm sorry Light, but I view people who attempt to predict a specific date for the End of the World, (Rapture) the same as I view people who claim to have 'worked out' the exact time, day, month and year of 'Creation'.......Either THEY are deluded, or they think the rest of us are gullible....

_________

i would suggest do not be sorry,brother/sister being

i am not saying this is the case

this is interesting none the less

i am not saying you have to watch this

those that have the care may do so yes

those that do not are not ablidged

are you comforted?

namaste

-:)

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2011 at 2:26pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 3rd, 2011 at 2:03pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 3rd, 2011 at 12:05pm: I am a good girl Bobby! I voted in your poll. You're the best girl Lisa.   :) That's just great. Now we're both fawning over each other lol :)

Hehehehe...

gizmo_2655 wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2011 at 2:09pm:

muso wrote on Mar 3rd, 2011 at 11:01am: Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 3rd, 2011 at 10:54am: LMAO! Well .. you've been told now Muso lol :P Where is that Johari Window topic I started lol :) If the food is good, I could fit in being Christian some time in the next fortnight. At the moment I'm Hindu. Hinduism is delicious. Hmmmm I don't know any good recipes for Hindus.......they struggle so much it's hard to get them in the oven.... (joke)

Very funny!

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2011 at 2:26pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 3rd, 2011 at 2:03pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 3rd, 2011 at 12:05pm: I am a good girl Bobby! I voted in your poll. You're the best girl Lisa.   :) That's just great. Now we're both fawning over each other lol :)

fawning - definition:

Quote:

Give a servile display of exaggerated flattery or affection, typically in order to gain favor.

Did I?   :-[

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2011 at 2:34pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Mar 3rd, 2011 at 2:09pm: muso wrote on Mar 3rd, 2011 at 11:01am: Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 3rd, 2011 at 10:54am: LMAO! Well .. you've been told now Muso lol :P Where is that Johari Window topic I started lol :) If the food is good, I could fit in being Christian some time in the next fortnight. At the moment I'm Hindu. Hinduism is delicious. Hmmmm I don't know any good recipes for Hindus.......they struggle so much it's hard to get them in the oven.... (joke) Very funny!

Now where did I hear that before ?  There was the Indian restaurant skit where the proprietor was being increasingly penitent and apologetic until he finally flung himself in the oven?

Early Goon Show? Hancock's Half Hour? Monty Python?

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2011 at 2:20pm:

Which one are you referring to?

All of the above.

flinging human beings in ovens is a

masonic ritual

monty python may have done this too

with humour

namaste

-:)

muso wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2011 at 3:24pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 3rd, 2011 at 2:20pm: Which one are you referring to? All of the above.

You BUGGER lol !!!

Bobby. wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2011 at 3:00pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 3rd, 2011 at 2:26pm: Bobby. wrote on Mar 3rd, 2011 at 2:03pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 3rd, 2011 at 12:05pm: I am a good girl Bobby! I voted in your poll. You're the best girl Lisa.   :) That's just great. Now we're both fawning over each other lol :) fawning - definition: [quote]Give a servile display of exaggerated flattery or affection, typically in order to gain favor.

Did I?   :-[/quote]

It was a JOKE Bobby LOL!

That's why hubby made you remove that pic Lisa. So guys will stop fawning over you  ;)

;D

Lisa.

Quote:

It was a JOKE Bobby LOL!

OK  & very funny too - LOL.


I didn't realise - your pic is no longer there.

Ahh..you're a fawnicator of the highest order Booby.

Amadd wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2011 at 8:31pm:

Ahh..you're a fawnicator of the highest order Booby.

Don't call me Booby -  or I'll call you mad

I'd plead no contest.
What say you?

Amadd wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2011 at 8:41pm:

I'd plead no contest. What say you?

ok  -  truce

Hmmm a fawnicator .. interesting word I must say.

I LIKE IT!

Mind if I use it from time to time Amadd?

Amadd wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2011 at 8:12pm:

That's why hubby made you remove that pic Lisa. So guys will stop fawning over you  ;) ;D

Ha! I removed the pic. It was MY decision and MINE alone.

If guys (or gals for that matter) wish to fawn .. let them fawn over my written words I say :P

And yes .. I can say all this because I MYSELF have been accused of fawning and I personally know what it's like to sit in the naughty corner where all fawners fawnicators go (sob sob) :(

OK I'M GONNA BE A GOOD GIRL AND GET BACK TO ....

"THE END TIMES" <-- insert serious music here

So as far as eschatological writings are concerned, where did they originate? I suspect that they have their origins in Ancient Greek Religion, or possible Gnosticism.

- Muso

---

Ahh eschatology! One of my fav subjects lol

Well Muso .. as it so happens .. there are various "species" of eschatology.

These are as follows:

1) Christian

2) Islamic

3) Jewish

4) Hindu

5) Zoroastrian

6) Inter religious

Which one are you referring to?

- Me

---

All of the above.

- Muso

---

Ok .. in that case .. your answer largely depends on the brand/species (if you like).

Insofar as Christian eschatology is concerned .. then the writings originate within the Bible itself (esp the Old Testament).

Interestingly enough .. there have been many creative attempts to WEAVE all sorts of links BACK INTO the Biblical eschatological fabric.

muso wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2011 at 3:21pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 3rd, 2011 at 2:34pm: gizmo_2655 wrote on Mar 3rd, 2011 at 2:09pm: muso wrote on Mar 3rd, 2011 at 11:01am: Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 3rd, 2011 at 10:54am: LMAO! Well .. you've been told now Muso lol :P Where is that Johari Window topic I started lol :) If the food is good, I could fit in being Christian some time in the next fortnight. At the moment I'm Hindu. Hinduism is delicious. Hmmmm I don't know any good recipes for Hindus.......they struggle so much it's hard to get them in the oven.... (joke) Very funny! Now where did I hear that before ?  There was the Indian restaurant skit where the proprietor was being increasingly penitent and apologetic until he finally flung himself in the oven? Early Goon Show? Hancock's Half Hour? Monty Python?

Not sure muso....there was a Python Sketch where the headwaiter stabbed himself with a table knife (or was it the fork??)...

Didn't watch much Hancock's Half Hour...(only ever saw about 3 episodes I think).....same as the Goon Show..

Lisa - the Christian version of eschatology involves something like a wine press
& Jesus with a sword coming out of his mouth.
It's quite bizzare.
Should we go there?

Not just yet lol :)

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 4^th, 2011 at 10:12pm:

Not just yet lol :)

OK - I agree.

Hey Bobby .. good to see you. How has your Friday night been?

We've only been home a short while.

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 4^th, 2011 at 10:20pm:

Hey Bobby .. good to see you. How has your Friday night been? We've only been home a short while.

I had a late dinner then went to the supermarket.
I am tired after a hard week of work.
cheers
Bobby.

Yeah .. it's been a big week (and a big evening) for me too Bobby.

Good night and sweet dreams.

The End <-- well .. until tomorrow :)

Lisa - The End could be this month - the 19th of March  2011.


http://204.74.214.194/forum1/message1379596/pg1

Quote:

Extreme Super (Full) Moon to Cause Chaos March 19th ? Coming up later this month (March 19 to be exact) the moon will make its closest approach to Earth (called lunar perigee) in 18 years. A new or full moon at 90% or greater of its closest perigee to Earth has been named a "SuperMoon" by astrologer Richard Nolle. This term has been recently picked up by astronomers. An extreme "SuperMoon" is when the moon is full or new as well as at its 100% greater mean perigee (closest) distance to earth. By this definition, last month's full moon, this month's and next month's will all be extreme "SuperMoons". I have read several "new age" forecasts that go something like this: "Extreme SuperMoon this month (March 2011) will bring strong earthquakes and storms and/or unusual climate patterns." Google the term 'extreme SuperMoon March 2011' and see for yourself what comes up. The validity of these types of forecasts can be debated ad nauseum. There were SuperMoons in 1955, 1974, 1992 and 2005. These years had their share of extreme weather. Is the Super Moon and the extreme weather a coincidence? Some would say yes; some would say no. I'm not here to pick sides and say I'm a believer or non-believer in subjects like this, but as a scientist I know enough to ask questions and try to find answers. We obviously know that there are scientific laws that say the moon affects the Earth (i.e. tides). There are also less proven theories that say the moon affects the Earth (i.e. abnormal behavior during a full moon). Can the Super (full) Moon contribute to extreme weather? AccuWeather Facebook fanpage member Daniel Vogler adds, "The last extreme super moon occurred was on January 10th, 2005, right around the time of the 9.0 Indonesia earthquake. That extreme super moon was a new moon. So be forewarned. Something BIG could happen on or around this date. (+/- 3 Days is my guess)" So what can we expect this time? Earthquakes? Volcanic eruptions? I guess we can only wait and see.

Bobby. wrote on Mar 5^th, 2011 at 7:48am:

Lisa - The End could be this month - the 19th of March  2011. http://204.74.214.194/forum1/message1379596/pg1 AccuWeather Facebook fanpage member Daniel Vogler adds, "The last extreme super moon occurred was on January 10th, 2005, right around the time of the 9.0 Indonesia earthquake. That extreme super moon was a new moon. So be forewarned. Something BIG could happen on or around this date. (+/- 3 Days is my guess)" So what can we expect this time? Earthquakes? Volcanic eruptions? I guess we can only wait and see.

Col Gaddafi is finally deposed? The stockmarket reaches a 4 year high?  There will definitely be an Earthquake during this period. That's a safe bet.

Good morning Bobby. Hmm .. interesting article .. almost as interesting as the source itself ( ie Godlike Productions - UFO's, Conspiracy theorists, Lunatic Fringe ).

Many thanks for providing the link .. it made me laugh :)

Ahh good morning Muso :)

What can I say? You have the potential to become a famous guru if that last post is anything to go by.

It's amazing what some people can "predict" when they juggle events in terms of possibility/probability.

Muso.

Quote:

Col Gaddafi is finally deposed? The stockmarket reaches a 4 year high?  There will definitely be an Earthquake during this period. That's a safe bet.

The change in distance is quite a lot =  50,000 kilometers.

http://www.idialstars.com/mar.htm


Quote:

During the course of one month, the Moon's distance from Earth varies by about 50,000 kilometers (30,000 miles). For instance, the Moon will swing to apogee - its greatest distance for the month - on March 6, at which time the Moon will be 406,583 kilometers away. Nearly two weeks later, on March 19, the Moon will be at perigee - its closest point to Earth for the month - with the Moon residing at 356,575 kilometers.

You heard it first from Bobby.

The question is more - how much closer is it compared to the normal Perigees that occur every 28 days?

muso wrote on Mar 5^th, 2011 at 8:09am:

The question is more - how much closer is it compared to the normal Perigees that occur every 28 days?

My understanding is that this Perigee is the closest that it ever gets.
Also the rapid change is the greatest. - the delta!
That equals earthquakes & extreme tides.

Bobby. wrote on Mar 5^th, 2011 at 8:11am:

muso wrote on Mar 5th, 2011 at 8:09am: The question is more - how much closer is it compared to the normal Perigees that occur every 28 days? My understanding is that this Perigee is the closest that it ever gets. Also the rapid change is the greatest. - the delta! That equals earthquakes & extreme tides.

OK - There is bound to be a Perigee and Apogee table somewhere on the web. Let me check.

2010

Perigee                             Apogee
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Jan 1  20:36 358682 km    F+1d 1h   Jan 17 1 :40 406433 km -  N+1d18h
Jan 30 9 :30 356592 km ++ F+   2h   Feb 13 2 :60 406541 km -- N-1d 0h
Feb 27 21:40 357831 km    F-  18h   Mar 12 10:70 406009 km    N-3d10h
Mar 28 4 :56 361876 km    F-1d21h   Apr 9  2 :45 404997 km    N-5d 9h
Apr 24 21:00 367141 km    F-3d15h   May 6  21:53 404230 km    N-7d 3h
May 20 8 :39 369728 km    N+6d 7h   Jun 3  16:51 404264 km    F+6d17h
Jun 15 14:55 365936 km    N+3d 3h   Jul 1  10:13 405035 km    F+4d22h
Jul 13 11:21 361114 km    N+1d15h   Jul 28 23:51 405954 km    F+2d22h
Aug 10 17:56 357857 km    N+  14h   Aug 25 5 :52 406389 km +  F+  12h
Sep 8  4 :10 357191 km    N-   6h   Sep 21 8 :40 406167 km +  F-2d 1h
Oct 6  13:41 359452 km    N-1d 5h   Oct 18 18:18 405432 km    F-4d 7h
Nov 3  17:22 364188 km    N-2d11h   Nov 15 11:47 404633 km    F-6d 5h
Nov 30 19:10 369438 km    N-4d22h   Dec 13 8 :35 404407 km    N+7d14h
Dec 25 12:25 368462 km    F+4d 4h  


2011

Perigee                             Apogee
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                                   Jan 10 5 :38 404975 km    N+5d20h
Jan 22 0 :11 362792 km    F+2d 2h   Feb 6  23:13 405923 km    N+3d20h
Feb 19 7 :27 358246 km    F+  22h   Mar 6  7 :50 406582 km -  N+1d11h
Mar 19 19:10 356577 km ++ F+   0h   Apr 2  9 :00 406655 km -- N-1d 5h
Apr 17 6 :00 358087 km    F-  20h   Apr 29 18:30 406042 km    N-3d12h
May 15 11:19 362132 km    F-1d23h   May 27 9 :59 405004 km    N-5d11h
Jun 12 1 :43 367187 km    F-3d18h   Jun 24 4 :13 404274 km    N-7d 4h
Jul 7  14:50 369565 km    N+6d 5h   Jul 21 22:47 404356 km    F+6d16h
Aug 2  21:00 365755 km    N+3d 2h   Aug 18 16:24 405159 km    F+4d21h
Aug 30 17:36 360857 km    N+1d14h   Sep 15 6 :24 406067 km    F+2d20h
Sep 28 1 :10 357555 km    N+  13h   Oct 12 11:43 406434 km +  F+   9h
Oct 26 12:26 357050 km -  N-   7h   Nov 8  13:20 406176 km +  F-2d 6h
Nov 23 23:24 359691 km    N-1d 6h   Dec 6  1 :13 405412 km    F-4d13h
Dec 22 2 :57 364800 km    N-2d15h  


Not much different to January last year.

Dec 12 2008 was closer with 356567 km. It shows you that you can't trust anything you read on the net without doing some cross checking.

There were predictions of a major Earthquake around that date, but none eventuated. Do your own correlations. It would be interesting :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_21st-century_earthquakes

The problem with Earthquakes is that you can get a fairly large earthquake that does no damage. It all depends where it occurs.

muso wrote on Mar 5^th, 2011 at 8:23am:

Dec 12 2008 was closer with 356567 km. It shows you that you can't trust anything you read on the net without doing some cross checking.

True - but there is also the rapid change to take into account.
I hope we don't get another magnitude 9 earthquake.
If we do - will you apologise to Bobby on your hands & knees while kissing my feet?  ;D

Back in Mark Twain's days, there was no internet.

Even so, this quote (by him) still has a lot of relevance :

If you don't read the newspaper, you are uninformed; if you do read the newspaper, you are misinformed.

- Mark Twain

Bobby. wrote on Mar 5^th, 2011 at 8:31am:

muso wrote on Mar 5th, 2011 at 8:23am: Dec 12 2008 was closer with 356567 km. It shows you that you can't trust anything you read on the net without doing some cross checking. True - but there is also the rapid change to take into account. I hope we don't get another magnitude 9 earthquake. If we do - will you apologise to Bobby on your hands & knees while kissing my feet?  ;D

It's exactly the same rapid change as has happened in previous perigees.

Incidentally my BS Meter went off with this line:


Quote:

That extreme super moon was a new moon. So be forewarned. Something BIG could happen on or around this date. (+/- 3 Days is my guess)"

The fact that it was a new moon is irrelevant. The guy is a charlatan. Something could happen on that date, but I could predict quite accurately that he'd still be a charlatan.

Come on Muso - we are both amateur astronomers & there is some science to back this up.

I predict that your prediction that he's a charlatan is quite accurate Muso. Bobby .. what do you predict?

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 5^th, 2011 at 8:38am:

I predict that your prediction that he's a charlatan is quite accurate Muso. Bobby .. what do you predict?

If you believe me then :
I think you should sleep under the bed for a few days around that time
if you're living in a building that could collapse.
Also don't go near the ocean.
Don't travel to Indonesia, New Zealand or any other place on the Pacific ring of fire.

If you believe Muso - then go to the beach and enjoy the high & low tides.  :)

Bobby. wrote on Mar 5^th, 2011 at 8:37am:

Come on Muso - we are both amateur astronomers & there is some science to back this up.

You mean that the Sun and Moon are pulling together at New Moon? What is the relative values of those forces? What is the greater effect, perihelion or perigee? - and what is the position of the Earth on March 19 with regards to perihelion? - Dig a little deeper.