Opposition denies anti-Muslim agenda

Posted 14 minutes ago

A senior Opposition MP Has denied claims the Coalition is seeking to exploit community concerns about Muslim immigration, and is taking its policy lead from right-wing party One Nation.

The Sydney Morning Herald says Opposition immigration spokesman Scott Morrison urged shadow cabinet to capitalise on electorate fears of "Muslim immigration", "Muslims in Australia" and Muslim migrants' "inability to integrate".

But Opposition frontbencher Greg Hunt has denied the Opposition is seeking to exploit religion to garner votes.

"Our position is very clear. That we are completely colour blind, race blind, religion blind on the issue of immigration," he said.

"Where we do have a difference with the Government is where people are being lured with policies to travel in dangerous leaky boats, then we think that is a great risk to common humanity."

While refusing to deny Mr Morrison made the comments, Mt Hunt says the immigration spokesman is a compassionate man.

"Unfortunately I wasn't at the meeting, but I know Scott, and his style is deep compassion, he is deeply compassionate, he agonises around the issues of protecting people who are being lured to their deaths," he said.

The Opposition has been under pressure as reports of a split in the party over the issue have emerged in the media.

Mr Morrison was forced to apologise for the timing of his comments on the burial of several asylum seekers after Joe Hockey publicly contradicted him, and Opposition Leader Tony Abbott's calls to cut foreign aid were reportedly met with fury by his deputy, Julie Bishop.

But Mr Hunt says the Opposition is united on the issue of immigration.

"[We've got] absolute unity on a completely non-racial policy, that is a fundamental tenant of who we are, but absolute unity on a very, very tough approach to ensure that people smugglers do not lure innocent victims to tragic ends on leaky boats," he said.

One Nation policy


Mr Hunt dismissed claims the Coalition is looking to One Nation for policies.

In an interview with The Australian, Queensland One Nation director Ian Nelson says the Opposition stole their idea of cutting aid to Indonesian schools to help pay for Queensland's flood recovery.

"They can deny all they like, but the idea came from us," he said.

Mr Nelson says he made the call to channel foreign aid into the flood recovery on One Nation's website in the aftermath of the floods in and around Brisbane.

"After watching this tragedy unfold, we need to see a new model produced with regards to aid, especially foreign aid. Wouldn't common sense dictate that you take care of your own citizens first and foremost?" he wrote on the site.

Within weeks Mr Abbott had adopted the policy, calling for $500 million in funding for schools in Indonesia to be cut.

But Mr Hunt says the policy has been proposed throughout the community.

"I think you'll find that lots of people have very strong views, I think you heard in the last few days, the chairman of the Business Council of Australia raised precisely the same point," he said.

Earlier this week Mr Abbott backed ACT Senator Gary Humphries's right to present a three-signature petition demanding a 10-year moratorium on Muslim immigration to the ACT parliament, but said he did not agree with its proposal.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/02/17/3141208.htm?section=justin
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I actually Like quite a few of One Nations Policies, so if they did decide to go with a few of theirs, I doubt all but 2% of the Australian population would complain.


Most Australians want action on border control, even if we are too PC to say so...and the polls suggest this fact.

Some of us here might be reluctant to admit they would like to see a return to Howards tighter border policies, but i'm sure as hell not, this and think I am well within my rights supporting any party, policy of my choosing.

Calling me a racist, or a xenophobe wont deter me from voting for  what party I believe to be devising the best policies concerning the welfare of my nations people, for future generations of Australians to come.

I think the time has come to stop the boats.

I think the time has come to accept the tension in our community concerning Muslim groups, and their apparent struggles assimilating into our western society, and whilst I realise not all Muslims are problematic, I think the more extreme and damaged are what's arriving by boat...this and setting the standard unfortunately.


But we have to do what's best for the country, if we don't pull the breaks up now.

For all our sake.

I also like the idea of a 10 year break!


:)

mellie wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 9:58am:

Opposition denies anti-Muslim agenda Posted 14 minutes ago A senior Opposition MP Has denied claims the Coalition is seeking to exploit community concerns about Muslim immigration, and is taking its policy lead from right-wing party One Nation. The Sydney Morning Herald says Opposition immigration spokesman Scott Morrison urged shadow cabinet to capitalise on electorate fears of "Muslim immigration", "Muslims in Australia" and Muslim migrants' "inability to integrate". But Opposition frontbencher Greg Hunt has denied the Opposition is seeking to exploit religion to garner votes. "Our position is very clear. That we are completely colour blind, race blind, religion blind on the issue of immigration," he said. "Where we do have a difference with the Government is where people are being lured with policies to travel in dangerous leaky boats, then we think that is a great risk to common humanity." While refusing to deny Mr Morrison made the comments, Mt Hunt says the immigration spokesman is a compassionate man. "Unfortunately I wasn't at the meeting, but I know Scott, and his style is deep compassion, he is deeply compassionate, he agonises around the issues of protecting people who are being lured to their deaths," he said. The Opposition has been under pressure as reports of a split in the party over the issue have emerged in the media. Mr Morrison was forced to apologise for the timing of his comments on the burial of several asylum seekers after Joe Hockey publicly contradicted him, and Opposition Leader Tony Abbott's calls to cut foreign aid were reportedly met with fury by his deputy, Julie Bishop. But Mr Hunt says the Opposition is united on the issue of immigration. "[We've got] absolute unity on a completely non-racial policy, that is a fundamental tenant of who we are, but absolute unity on a very, very tough approach to ensure that people smugglers do not lure innocent victims to tragic ends on leaky boats," he said. One Nation policy Mr Hunt dismissed claims the Coalition is looking to One Nation for policies. In an interview with The Australian, Queensland One Nation director Ian Nelson says the Opposition stole their idea of cutting aid to Indonesian schools to help pay for Queensland's flood recovery. "They can deny all they like, but the idea came from us," he said. Mr Nelson says he made the call to channel foreign aid into the flood recovery on One Nation's website in the aftermath of the floods in and around Brisbane. "After watching this tragedy unfold, we need to see a new model produced with regards to aid, especially foreign aid. Wouldn't common sense dictate that you take care of your own citizens first and foremost?" he wrote on the site. Within weeks Mr Abbott had adopted the policy, calling for $500 million in funding for schools in Indonesia to be cut. But Mr Hunt says the policy has been proposed throughout the community. "I think you'll find that lots of people have very strong views, I think you heard in the last few days, the chairman of the Business Council of Australia raised precisely the same point," he said. Earlier this week Mr Abbott backed ACT Senator Gary Humphries's right to present a three-signature petition demanding a 10-year moratorium on Muslim immigration to the ACT parliament, but said he did not agree with its proposal. http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/02/17/3141208.htm?section=justin ___________________________________________ I actually Like quite a few of One Nations Policies, so if they did decide to go with a few of theirs, I doubt all but 2% of the Australian population would complain. Most Australians want action on border control, even if we are too PC to say so...and the polls suggest this fact. Some of us here might be reluctant to admit they would like to see a return to Howards tighter border policies, but i'm sure as hell not, this and think I am well within my rights supporting any party, policy of my choosing. Calling me a racist, or a xenophobe wont deter me from voting for  what party I believe to be devising the best policies concerning the welfare of my nations people, for future generations of Australians to come. I think the time has come to stop the boats. I think the time has come to accept the tension in our community concerning Muslim groups, and their apparent struggles assimilating into our western society, and whilst I realise not all Muslims are problematic, I think the more extreme and damaged are what's arriving by boat...this and setting the standard unfortunately. But we have to do what's best for the country, if we don't pull the breaks up now. For all our sake.

Here comes the damage control.
the Libs have proved yet again why they need to spend a lot of time in opposition.Maybe when they get a non xenophobic leader they can be considered as an alternative government.

Abbotts got the balls to say and do what a cowardice Labor government have sat on for 3 years....and look where it's got us?

Of course, Labor have a few Muslim members themselves, thus can understand their reluctance to shun themselves.


It's time for change.

Someone had to call it...

Thank god someone did.

::)

mellie wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 9:58am:

Opposition denies anti-Muslim agenda Posted 14 minutes ago A senior Opposition MP Has denied claims the Coalition is seeking to exploit community concerns about Muslim immigration, and is taking its policy lead from right-wing party One Nation. The Sydney Morning Herald says Opposition immigration spokesman Scott Morrison urged shadow cabinet to capitalise on electorate fears of "Muslim immigration", "Muslims in Australia" and Muslim migrants' "inability to integrate". But Opposition frontbencher Greg Hunt has denied the Opposition is seeking to exploit religion to garner votes. "Our position is very clear. That we are completely colour blind, race blind, religion blind on the issue of immigration," he said. "Where we do have a difference with the Government is where people are being lured with policies to travel in dangerous leaky boats, then we think that is a great risk to common humanity." While refusing to deny Mr Morrison made the comments, Mt Hunt says the immigration spokesman is a compassionate man. "Unfortunately I wasn't at the meeting, but I know Scott, and his style is deep compassion, he is deeply compassionate, he agonises around the issues of protecting people who are being lured to their deaths," he said. The Opposition has been under pressure as reports of a split in the party over the issue have emerged in the media. Mr Morrison was forced to apologise for the timing of his comments on the burial of several asylum seekers after Joe Hockey publicly contradicted him, and Opposition Leader Tony Abbott's calls to cut foreign aid were reportedly met with fury by his deputy, Julie Bishop. But Mr Hunt says the Opposition is united on the issue of immigration. "[We've got] absolute unity on a completely non-racial policy, that is a fundamental tenant of who we are, but absolute unity on a very, very tough approach to ensure that people smugglers do not lure innocent victims to tragic ends on leaky boats," he said. One Nation policy Mr Hunt dismissed claims the Coalition is looking to One Nation for policies. In an interview with The Australian, Queensland One Nation director Ian Nelson says the Opposition stole their idea of cutting aid to Indonesian schools to help pay for Queensland's flood recovery. "They can deny all they like, but the idea came from us," he said. Mr Nelson says he made the call to channel foreign aid into the flood recovery on One Nation's website in the aftermath of the floods in and around Brisbane. "After watching this tragedy unfold, we need to see a new model produced with regards to aid, especially foreign aid. Wouldn't common sense dictate that you take care of your own citizens first and foremost?" he wrote on the site. Within weeks Mr Abbott had adopted the policy, calling for $500 million in funding for schools in Indonesia to be cut. But Mr Hunt says the policy has been proposed throughout the community. "I think you'll find that lots of people have very strong views, I think you heard in the last few days, the chairman of the Business Council of Australia raised precisely the same point," he said. Earlier this week Mr Abbott backed ACT Senator Gary Humphries's right to present a three-signature petition demanding a 10-year moratorium on Muslim immigration to the ACT parliament, but said he did not agree with its proposal. http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/02/17/3141208.htm?section=justin ___________________________________________ I actually Like quite a few of One Nations Policies, so if they did decide to go with a few of theirs, I doubt all but 2% of the Australian population would complain. Most Australians want action on border control, even if we are too PC to say so...and the polls suggest this fact. Some of us here might be reluctant to admit they would like to see a return to Howards tighter border policies, but i'm sure as hell not, this and think I am well within my rights supporting any party, policy of my choosing. Calling me a racist, or a xenophobe wont deter me from voting for  what party I believe to be devising the best policies concerning the welfare of my nations people, for future generations of Australians to come. I think the time has come to stop the boats. I think the time has come to accept the tension in our community concerning Muslim groups, and their apparent struggles assimilating into our western society, and whilst I realise not all Muslims are problematic, I think the more extreme and damaged are what's arriving by boat...this and setting the standard unfortunately. But we have to do what's best for the country, if we don't pull the breaks up now. For all our sake.

Riiightt.. The fact it came out from a cabinet meeting shows it's a leak. Of course they'll deny.  Shows they don't want to be seen as xenophobic bigots... wonder why?  So much for "conviction."

Why exactly are you claiming we are bigots?

Like quite a few people here who themselves are of Muslim heritage, it's time to  pull up the breaks for our own sake.

What sort of regard do you have for Australian people that you would sooner see us go without the basic essentials, so as to continue funding others embarking on our shores illegally?

And you say we are bigots?

Sorry, but self preservation isn't selfish, nor is preserving our children's future, and preventing them from having to go without due to our nation slipping into a 40 year deficit.

the word "bigot" is spoken as though it were a BAD thing !!!!!!!!

I'll vote for any party with an anti-muslim sentiment.
stick that in your pc hat

Notice how the Libs have dragged up an MP who wasn't at the meeting in question, to defend Morrison...

Notice also how he also refused to deny Morrison's agenda!

Uriah Hunt is just as creepy as Scott Morrison - they've both gotta go forthwith!

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 10:22am:

the word "bigot" is spoken as though it were a BAD thing !!!!!!!! I'll vote for any party with an anti-muslim sentiment. stick that in your pc hat

It's definitely time for a change Sprint.

They have had a good run, we have gone without ourselves to give a decent amount of them a fresh start here in Australia, and rather than thank us..... what do they do?

Lol..abuse us for not allowing them to continue draining our economy at the tax-payers expense.

Unbelievable!!  Ungrateful much?!!! ;D

But sadly, we have run out of money.


Sorry.

::)

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 10:22am:

the word "bigot" is spoken as though it were a BAD thing !!!!!!!! I'll vote for any party with an anti-muslim sentiment. stick that in your pc hat

Nuke the lot!
"That'll stop the f@#k'n boats"
eh Tone

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 10:22am:

the word "bigot" is spoken as though it were a BAD thing !!!!!!!! I'll vote for any party with an anti-muslim sentiment. stick that in your pc hat

I'll vote for any party that removes those rightarded Kiwi immigrants who come here and bludge off Australia.

mellie wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 10:17am:

Why exactly are you claiming we are bigots? Like quite a few people here who themselves are of Muslim heritage, it's time to  pull up the breaks for our own sake. What sort of regard do you have for Australian people that you would sooner see us go without the basic essentials, so as to continue funding others embarking on our shores illegally? And you say we are bigots? Sorry, but self preservation isn't selfish, nor is preserving our children's future, and preventing them from having to go without due to our nation slipping into a 40 year deficit.

I love nutter bigots talking about "childrens futures."  Let me guess... you also think action on climate change is a bad thing, right? ;D ;D ;D ;D

So, how will the refugee program affect your children's future exactly?

skippy. wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 10:28am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 17th, 2011 at 10:22am: the word "bigot" is spoken as though it were a BAD thing !!!!!!!! I'll vote for any party with an anti-muslim sentiment. stick that in your pc hat I'll vote for any party that removes those rightarded Kiwi immigrants who come here and bludge off Australia.

They are ANZAC's we are brothers in arms.

:)

mellie wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 10:29am:

skippy. wrote on Feb 17th, 2011 at 10:28am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 17th, 2011 at 10:22am: the word "bigot" is spoken as though it were a BAD thing !!!!!!!! I'll vote for any party with an anti-muslim sentiment. stick that in your pc hat I'll vote for any party that removes those rightarded Kiwi immigrants who come here and bludge off Australia. They are ANZAC's we are brothers in arms. :)

I'm ok with the NZ whitey's coming here... it's those miserable islanders!!  How dare they come over; they are weird looking and I don't like them!

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Oh yeh, that was sarcasm.

Hey mellie, what you think about the british overstayers; the majority of real "illegal immigrants?"  

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 10:29am:

mellie wrote on Feb 17th, 2011 at 10:17am: Why exactly are you claiming we are bigots? Like quite a few people here who themselves are of Muslim heritage, it's time to  pull up the breaks for our own sake. What sort of regard do you have for Australian people that you would sooner see us go without the basic essentials, so as to continue funding others embarking on our shores illegally? And you say we are bigots? Sorry, but self preservation isn't selfish, nor is preserving our children's future, and preventing them from having to go without due to our nation slipping into a 40 year deficit. I love nutter bigots talking about "childrens futures."  Let me guess... you also think action on climate change is a bad thing, right? ;D ;D ;D ;D So, how will the refugee program affect your children's future exactly?

We aren't the minority here , you are.

Enjoy!

8-)

I like all Kiwis...black, white, yellow,

They are with us!

:)

Quote:

We aren't the minority here , you are.

LOL, thats why the party that sprouts mellies xenophobic beliefs is in opposition, LOL LOL LOL  ;D ;D ;D

mellie wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 10:33am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 17th, 2011 at 10:29am: mellie wrote on Feb 17th, 2011 at 10:17am: Why exactly are you claiming we are bigots? Like quite a few people here who themselves are of Muslim heritage, it's time to  pull up the breaks for our own sake. What sort of regard do you have for Australian people that you would sooner see us go without the basic essentials, so as to continue funding others embarking on our shores illegally? And you say we are bigots? Sorry, but self preservation isn't selfish, nor is preserving our children's future, and preventing them from having to go without due to our nation slipping into a 40 year deficit. I love nutter bigots talking about "childrens futures."  Let me guess... you also think action on climate change is a bad thing, right? ;D ;D ;D ;D So, how will the refugee program affect your children's future exactly? We aren't the minority here , you are. Enjoy! 8-)

Who is we? The bigots? If the bigots are a majority in Australia then I pity Australia.  Thankfully they are a minority - just a majority in this forum.

As for "we" referring to me being unAustralian I can assure you I am more Australian than you will ever be.  If you disagree I'd ask for you to please first learn the english language, and then come back and put your claim to the test again.

mellie wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 10:34am:

I like all Kiwis...black, white, yellow, They are with us! :)

She must be talking about the fruit.

What percent of the Australian population is Muslim?

:)


Furthermore, most Australians agree, it's time we cramped down on illegal boats arriving into our country.

Gillard knew this, before she went to the polls, so she shafted us, and promised "A sustainable Australia, not a big Australia"...this and promised she would deliver us a sustainable population policy.

Where is it?


She lied!

And Australians aren't happy about it.


Are you suggesting we sacrifice ourselves in the name of illegal arrivals, to prove we aren't racist, or xenophobic?

We have nothing to prove, we have been more than generous in years gone past.


The old guilt tactic is wearing a little thin, especially so now that despite our economy spiralling further into deficit, it's become apparent that you would prefer we continue funding illegal immigrants to our own nations victims of disaster.


Are you aware, there are people still living in tents, without homes, several weeks later still waiting for flood/cyclone relief?

Take a look at this, and how Bill Shorten made a dick of himself up north, when he tried to humour them.

The illegal immigrants got their funerals, but we have people still living in tents unable to return to their homes. :-/

Skip, and Alevine, do you consider yourselves Australian at all?

Then surely, common sense and a sense of social responsibility and empathy would prevail here, this and enable you to put your selfish selves aside, when it's clear, we have nothing more to give.

Our economy needs to recover, sorry about this, you may blame the government you voted in, ultimately, their failings are what will topple their government.

I think it finally hit home when Australians realised their government thought nothing of funding Indonesia's Muslim schools $500 million recently...though were unable to find the funds to assist their own nations victims of natural disaster.

How much foreign aid has Labor donated this year?

Sorry, but the well of charity has all but dried up, again, accept our humble apologies.

Shorten under fire over failed insurance claims

Debra Nowland reported this story on Monday, February 14, 2011 12:14:00

http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2011/s3138172.htm

mellie wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 10:57am:

What percent of the Australian population is Muslim? :) Furthermore, most Australians agree, it's time we cramped down on illegal boats arriving into our country. Gillard knew this, before she went to the polls, so she shafted us, and promised "A sustainable Australia, not a big Australia"...this and promised she would deliver us a sustainable population policy. Where is it? She lied! And Australians aren't happy about it. Are you suggesting we sacrifice ourselves in the name of illegal arrivals, to prove we aren't racist, or xenophobic? We have nothing to prove, we have been more than generous in years gone past. The old guilt tactic is wearing a little thin, especially so now that despite our economy spiralling further into deficit, it's become apparent that you would prefer we continue funding illegal immigrants to our own nations victims of disaster. Are you aware, there are people still living in tents, without homes, several weeks later still waiting for flood/cyclone relief? Take a look at this, and how Bill Shorten made a dick of himself up north, when he tried to humour them. The illegal immigrants got their funerals, but we have people still living in tents unable to return to their homes. :-/ Skip, and Alevine, do you consider yourselves Australian at all? Then surely, common sense and a sense of social responsibility and empathy would prevail here, this and enable you to put your selfish selves aside, when it's clear, we have nothing more to give. Our economy needs to recover, sorry about this, you may blame the government you voted in, ultimately, their failings are what will topple their government. I think it finally hit home when Australians realised their government thought nothing of funding Indonesia's Muslim schools $500 million recently...though were unable to find the funds to assist their own nations victims of natural disaster. How much foreign aid has Labor donated this year? Sorry, but the well of charity has all but dried up, again, accept our humble apologies. Shorten under fire over failed insurance claims Debra Nowland reported this story on Monday, February 14, 2011 12:14:00 http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2011/s3138172.htm

And of course there will be nothing in terms of evidence to your crap? Of course, bigots don't need evidence when spilling out their trash of an opinion. Right?

1. Asylum Seekers account for 13,000 of annual immigration this country.  How is 13,000 increase a year going to affect the "sustainability" of Australia's population?   You don't need to answer, you won't be able to without going completley off tangent and being redundant.

2. The vast majority of the remainder of immigrants are skilled immigrants.  This means that unlike you bigot mellie they can get a professional job in Australia, and do.

3. You can blame the flood relief being slow on the coalition who have now sent the policy into "review" for a month. So, who really cares about the people in "tents?"

4. You realise that the coalition has maintained they will increase foreign aid by 0.5% of gdp by 2015? This means anything they "Defer" now will re-emerge in forward estimates in later years anyway. It is a financial ploy to make idiots like you think they are saving, when in actual fact they are over-spending over the forward estimates.

5. You are just a bigot. End of story.

Quote:

Skip, and Alevine, do you consider yourselves Australian at all?

I'm sorry you dont consider yourself Australian Mel,I know I am, but I'm not the product of a wog.

skippy. wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 11:18am:

Quote: Skip, and Alevine, do you consider yourselves Australian at all? I'm sorry you dont consider yourself Australian Mel,I know I am, but I'm not the product of a wog.

Well, if you had any regard for this country, as do I....you would respect the fact that we need to recover economically before we take in any more uninvited guests.

Is it not rude to impose yourself on those you know are struggling?

mellie wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 11:24am:

skippy. wrote on Feb 17th, 2011 at 11:18am: Quote: Skip, and Alevine, do you consider yourselves Australian at all? I'm sorry you dont consider yourself Australian Mel,I know I am, but I'm not the product of a wog. Well, if you had any regard for this country, as do I....you would respect the fact that we need to recover economically before we take in any more uninvited guests. Is it not rude to impose yourself on those you know are struggling?

if only we had that policy when your grandma came here, we wouldn't have to be putting up with your sh it now.

Why are you continuing to call me a bigot, on account of my feeling as though we need to stop the boats?

This and cramp don't on border security?


Do you associate stopping the boats with racism?

Given our current economical situation, I know you know we have a valid need to cramp down.


This and also know you know I'm neither a bigot or racist.

:)

mellie wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 11:28am:

Why are you continuing to call me a bigot, on account of my feeling as though we need to stop the boats? This and cramp don't on border security? Do you associate stopping the boats with racism? Given our current economical situation, I know you know we have a valid need to cramp down. This and also know you know I'm neither a bigot or racist. :)

Try and defend , bigot:

And of course there will be nothing in terms of evidence to your crap? Of course, bigots don't need evidence when spilling out their trash of an opinion. Right?

1. Asylum Seekers account for 13,000 of annual immigration this country.  How is 13,000 increase a year going to affect the "sustainability" of Australia's population?   You don't need to answer, you won't be able to without going completley off tangent and being redundant.

2. The vast majority of the remainder of immigrants are skilled immigrants.  This means that unlike you bigot mellie they can get a professional job in Australia, and do.

3. You can blame the flood relief being slow on the coalition who have now sent the policy into "review" for a month. So, who really cares about the people in "tents?"

4. You realise that the coalition has maintained they will increase foreign aid by 0.5% of gdp by 2015? This means anything they "Defer" now will re-emerge in forward estimates in later years anyway. It is a financial ploy to make idiots like you think they are saving, when in actual fact they are over-spending over the forward estimates.

5. You are just a bigot. End of story.

Has anyone noticed how often alevine uses the word "bigot"? It features very high up in his known vocabulary.
When the ads come out for employment of Enforcement Officers for the Racism Section, New Multicultural Council, he should be at the head of the list.

bogarde73 wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 11:36am:

Has anyone noticed how often alevine uses the word "bigot"? It features very high up in his known vocabulary. When the ads come out for employment of Enforcement Officers for the Racism Section, New Multicultural Council, he should be at the head of the list.

Not my field of interest I'm afraid, bigotarde :(

I am only using it because I am justified to use it.

bogarde73 wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 11:36am:

Has anyone noticed how often alevine uses the word "bigot"? It features very high up in his known vocabulary. When the ads come out for employment of Enforcement Officers for the Racism Section, New Multicultural Council, he should be at the head of the list.

Care to defend any of the 5 points I made in the post above? No? Can't? shame.

Quote:

This and also know you know I'm neither a bigot or racist

NO, I do think you are a bigoted wacist.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/liberal-unease-over-suggestions-party-should-pursue-anti-muslim-strategy/story-fn59niix-1226007414702


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“Where we do have a difference with the government is where people are being lured with policies to travel in dangerous leaky boats, then we think that is a great risk to common humanity.” Mr Hunt said Mr Morrison was a compassionate man. “Unfortunately I wasn't at the meeting, but I know Scott, and his style is deep compassion, he is deeply compassionate, he agonises around the issues of protecting people who are being lured to their deaths,” he said.

If Scott Morission, Tony Abbott, Uriah Hunt and Co were genuinely concerned about the human beings who were on these boats, as indicated above, then why didn't they demonstrate compassion and respect on the day of those funerals - and since!?

The simple fact is: those divisive bigots have form for putting political point scoring above all else - especially empathy and compassion!

No amount of doublespeak and weasel wording is gonna convince the genuinely-empathetic and compassionate majority otherwise!

My grandmother arrived with my grandfather, his work required that he travel often all over the world, he met her in France, (which is just a hop over the water from Portugal) and fell in love with her so took her home with him.

Brave woman, I could never have done that!!! :o

But he was based in France for 12 months, so.... they had a decent amount of time to get to know each other I guess.

She spoke English well,(spoke 4 languages actually)  she went to an English national school in both France and Portugal, this and was a nurse and worked here in Australia.

She came here legally, arrived with her paperwork, and did not attempt in anyway to free load, or toss her passport over board like so many do.  ::)

Like my mother said, she was nursing people before she even got off the boat.

She left her whole world behind to be with him, and never saw her mother again, she died a few months later suddenly, (family said her mother had been sick for a while, but waited until her daughter had left ...didn't want her to look back of feel she had to stay back and nurse her so pretended she was well)  .... made excuses for a cough.
Heart problem apparently.

Back in those days, they were begging people to populate our nation, especially educated those from Europe, though now... the standard has somewhat dropped, as you may have noticed as per your reflection in the mirror. ;)

Do you know of any squalid Portuguese communities here in Australia

There aren't many over here, Portuguese people I mean.

Most don't want to live here in Australia, and if they do, they usually go back home sooner or later.

Portugal is gorgeous.

Quite different to Iraq, Afghanistan, etc...

:)

bogarde73 wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 11:36am:

Has anyone noticed how often alevine uses the word "bigot"? It features very high up in his known vocabulary.

Yeah, that would be true of late - but I guarantee you that the word 'bigot' appears on these boards infinitely-fewer times than the word 'Muslim'!

In fact, I'd almost wager that right whingers have somehow managed the extraordinary mental gymnastics of doublethink required to introduce an 'anti-Muslim' tangent into almost every thread on these boards over the past few days!

Sadly and ironically, Bogey, you are one of the most notable offenders...

If the Libs are denying an anti muslim campaign they should look at the rubbish Cory Bernardi bombarded letterboxes with at the last election.
Having recieved some of that appauling material disguised as a questionaire (push polling) I have no problems saying there are some in the Liberal Party who are bare faced liars when it comes to denying anti Muslim propaganda.

mellie wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 11:47am:

My grandmother arrived with my grandfather, his work required that he travel often all over the world, he met her in France, (which is just a hop over the water from Portugal) and fell in love with her so took her home with him. Brave woman, I could never have done that!!! :o But he was based in France for 12 months, so.... they had a decent amount of time to get to know each other I guess. She spoke English well,(spoke 4 languages actually)  she went to an English national school in both France and Portugal, this and was a nurse and worked here in Australia. She came here legally, arrived with her paperwork, and did not attempt in anyway to free load, or toss her passport over board like so many do.  ::) Like my mother said, she was nursing people before she even got off the boat. She left her whole world behind to be with him, and never saw her mother again, she died a few months later suddenly, (family said her mother had been sick for a while, but waited until her daughter had left ...didn't want her to look back of feel she had to stay back and nurse her so pretended she was well)  .... made excuses for a cough. Heart problem apparently. Back in those days, they were begging people to populate our nation, especially educated those from Europe, though now... the standard has somewhat dropped, as you may have noticed as per your reflection in the mirror. ;) Do you know of any squalid Portuguese communities here in Australia There aren't many over here, Portuguese people I mean. Most don't want to live here in Australia, and if they do, they usually go back home sooner or later. Portugal is gorgeous. Quite different to Iraq, Afghanistan, etc... :)

Nice story.  Wanna refute my previous points however?

And I really recommend my mum helps you with your english.  Seriously, free of charge!

adelcrow wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 11:58am:

If the Libs are denying an anti muslim campaign they should look at the rubbish Cory Bernardi bombarded letterboxes with at the last election. Having recieved some of that appauling material disguised as a questionaire (push polling) I have no problems saying there are some in the Liberal Party who are bare faced liars when it comes to denying anti Muslim propaganda.

I reckon there is more hate and propaganda on the Muslim side than the Australian side :


Full-bred Aussie with a longing for sharia law
Sally Neighbour From: The Australian January 21, 2011 12:00AM

IBRAHIM Siddiq-Conlon has a message for Australians, whether they want to hear it or not.

"One day Australia will be ruled by sharia, no doubt," he declares. "That is why non-Muslims are worried, because they know one day they won't be able to drink their beer, they won't be able to eat their pork and they won't be able to do their homosexual acts, because one day they know they will be controlled."

Siddiq-Conlon sits on the steps of the NSW Parliament House, the location he has chosen to launch his rhetorical attack on democracy, which he describes as "an evil system of life".

"Right now in the Western world we're on the edge of a crisis, of extinction, because of democracy. OK, so don't tell me democracy has the answers and is peaceful. Democracy is the reason for the world's problems."

Siddiq-Conlon is the face and voice of Sharia4Australia, a group formed in Sydney's southwest to agitate for Islamic law, starting with the introduction of sharia courts and ending, in his ideal world, with Islamic rule.

While he claims to eschew violence, he unapologetically preaches hate. An online video posted by his group describes its members as "uncompromising [in] their disallegiance, disloyalty and hate for the disbelievers".

"I hate the parliament. I hate [democracy] with a pure hate," he says. Moreover, it is obligatory for all Muslims to reject democracy, because it is a challenge to God's law: "They must hate it, speak out against it, and if that doesn't work, take action against it."

Siddiq-Conlon formed Sharia4Australia last year, styling himself as the new champion for Islamic law in Australia.

Sounds like you could do with a little help there yourself chum, and on so many levels.

;D

mellie wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 12:10pm:

Sounds like you could do with a little help there yourself chum, and on so many levels. ;D

Got nothing to say about the 5 points I raised? Shame :(  

No, I usually skip over your posts, only read the short ones given the longer ones are usually garbled and a bit well , you know, 'loose' off the wall most of the time, so I try to skim over wherever possible.

::)

mellie wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 12:38pm:

No, I usually skip over your posts, only read the short ones given the longer ones are usually garbled and a bit well , you know, 'loose' off the wall most of the time, so I try to skim over wherever possible. ::)

Short as possible:

Please explain how the coalition's "deferred" expindeture of $500m on Indonesian schools will not re-appear in forward estimates considering they are committed to increasing foreign aid by 0.5% of GDP by 2015.  If you agree it will appear in forward estimates, how is this NOT added spending rather than a "cut" to budget forward estimates?  

I can have my mum call you and read this out to you and explain each word to you, if you like?

<Sadly and ironically, Bogey, you are one of the most notable offenders...>

nemesis, I'm afraid I feel a duty to comment on what I see to be the hole this country is falling into in the same way that most of Europe sadly has and is now searching desperately for a way out.
Forewarned is forearmed, just as prevention is better than cure.
I do try to do it however without hurling BORING epithets at those who disagree with me.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 12:57pm:

mellie wrote on Feb 17th, 2011 at 12:38pm: No, I usually skip over your posts, only read the short ones given the longer ones are usually garbled and a bit well , you know, 'loose' off the wall most of the time, so I try to skim over wherever possible. ::) Short as possible: Please explain how the coalition's "deferred" expindeture of $500m on Indonesian schools will not re-appear in forward estimates considering they are committed to increasing foreign aid by 0.5% of GDP by 2015.  If you agree it will appear in forward estimates, how is this NOT added spending rather than a "cut" to budget forward estimates?   I can have my mum call you and read this out to you and explain each word to you, if you like?

got nothing, mellie?

skippy. wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 11:18am:

Quote: Skip, and Alevine, do you consider yourselves Australian at all? I'm sorry you dont consider yourself Australian Mel,I know I am, but I'm not the product of a wog.

I do believe thats real racists talk....


he is proudly not the products of a WOG..

mellie he used the W word...

someone has come out of the closet.a bigot and a racist

havent heard the W word in years..

If Scott Morission, Tony Abbott, Uriah Hunt and Co were genuinely concerned about the human beings who were on these boats, as indicated above, then why didn't they demonstrate compassion and respect on the day of those funerals - and since!?

The simple fact is: those divisive bigots have form for putting political point scoring above all else - especially empathy and compassion!

No amount of doublespeak and weasel wording is gonna convince the genuinely-empathetic and compassionate majority otherwise!



XXXXXXXX

maybe someone was thinking they could spend the money on the homeless that are stillroaming our shores..fortunately none of them are overseas visitors though..otherwise there would be hue and cry

so maybe we do have an amount of money stored away for a rainey day after all,as  our overseas vistors are costing more and more and more each day.and we seem to have no problems drumming up the costs.

I wonder if there will ever be a line drawn in the sand, we have 3 more years of gillard.. so can we look forward to by the time they are done to having somewhere in the region of 12000 in detention,

I presume no one from the left is putting a cap on this.so its a growing concern only for those from the right I gather?

cods wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 2:49pm:

If Scott Morission, Tony Abbott, Uriah Hunt and Co were genuinely concerned about the human beings who were on these boats, as indicated above, then why didn't they demonstrate compassion and respect on the day of those funerals - and since!? The simple fact is: those divisive bigots have form for putting political point scoring above all else - especially empathy and compassion! No amount of doublespeak and weasel wording is gonna convince the genuinely-empathetic and compassionate majority otherwise! XXXXXXXX maybe someone was thinking they could spend the money on the homeless that are stillroaming our shores..fortunately none of them are overseas visitors though..otherwise there would be hue and cry so maybe we do have an amount of money stored away for a rainey day after all,as  our overseas vistors are costing more and more and more each day.and we seem to have no problems drumming up the costs. I wonder if there will ever be a line drawn in the sand, we have 3 more years of gillard.. so can we look forward to by the time they are done to having somewhere in the region of 12000 in detention, I presume no one from the left is putting a cap on this.so its a growing concern only for those from the right I gather?

I believe you never answered the question of whether or not you believe it's okay for a refugee to just go ahead and die, as long as it's not in Australian waters.  Do you?

mellie wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 11:47am:

My grandmother arrived with my grandfather, his work required that he travel often all over the world, he met her in France, (which is just a hop over the water from Portugal) and fell in love with her so took her home with him. Brave woman, I could never have done that!!! :o But he was based in France for 12 months, so.... they had a decent amount of time to get to know each other I guess. She spoke English well,(spoke 4 languages actually)  she went to an English national school in both France and Portugal, this and was a nurse and worked here in Australia. She came here legally, arrived with her paperwork, and did not attempt in anyway to free load, or toss her passport over board like so many do.  ::) Like my mother said, she was nursing people before she even got off the boat. She left her whole world behind to be with him, and never saw her mother again, she died a few months later suddenly, (family said her mother had been sick for a while, but waited until her daughter had left ...didn't want her to look back of feel she had to stay back and nurse her so pretended she was well)  .... made excuses for a cough. Heart problem apparently. Back in those days, they were begging people to populate our nation, especially educated those from Europe, though now... the standard has somewhat dropped, as you may have noticed as per your reflection in the mirror. ;) Do you know of any squalid Portuguese communities here in Australia There aren't many over here, Portuguese people I mean. Most don't want to live here in Australia, and if they do, they usually go back home sooner or later. Portugal is gorgeous. Quite different to Iraq, Afghanistan, etc... :)

nice story mel my son in law if of Portugese hertiage mum and dad come here about 40 years ago a smashing chap we sling off at each other all the time..he nor I are sensitive like some.

he tell me there are many pockets of Portugese here Sydney in particular... they integrated mel like the poms.. you wouldnt know if you didnt ask I think thats the difference if we went around wearing shrouds and scarfs over our heads.. we would give it away though..

I just want every one to respect each other and I find that a bit hard when I look at someone with a shawl over their face.and when they constantly expect those already here to integrate with them and their way of life. otherwise call them evil names its too convenient..

its already coming out it isnt working overseas.. and we wont be any different ,because we dont demand people adhere to our way of life.

cods wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 2:41pm:

skippy. wrote on Feb 17th, 2011 at 11:18am: Quote: Skip, and Alevine, do you consider yourselves Australian at all? I'm sorry you dont consider yourself Australian Mel,I know I am, but I'm not the product of a wog. I do believe thats real racists talk.... he is proudly not the products of a WOG.. mellie he used the W word... someone has come out of the closet.a bigot and a racist havent heard the W word in years..

I wondered how long before someone took the bait, the usual sucker came in hook line and sinker.
What I was trying to point out, though you'd be too stupid to realise, is that the refugees coming here now are no different to the many we've had for 60 years, and just like 60 years ago the ones of today are treated as something to be afraid of.
I wouldn't expect a silly old biddy to understand ,so dont bother answering me with your usual sad vile old rhetoric, back to your knitting.

cods wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 3:01pm:

mellie wrote on Feb 17th, 2011 at 11:47am: My grandmother arrived with my grandfather, his work required that he travel often all over the world, he met her in France, (which is just a hop over the water from Portugal) and fell in love with her so took her home with him. Brave woman, I could never have done that!!! :o But he was based in France for 12 months, so.... they had a decent amount of time to get to know each other I guess. She spoke English well,(spoke 4 languages actually)  she went to an English national school in both France and Portugal, this and was a nurse and worked here in Australia. She came here legally, arrived with her paperwork, and did not attempt in anyway to free load, or toss her passport over board like so many do.  ::) Like my mother said, she was nursing people before she even got off the boat. She left her whole world behind to be with him, and never saw her mother again, she died a few months later suddenly, (family said her mother had been sick for a while, but waited until her daughter had left ...didn't want her to look back of feel she had to stay back and nurse her so pretended she was well)  .... made excuses for a cough. Heart problem apparently. Back in those days, they were begging people to populate our nation, especially educated those from Europe, though now... the standard has somewhat dropped, as you may have noticed as per your reflection in the mirror. ;) Do you know of any squalid Portuguese communities here in Australia There aren't many over here, Portuguese people I mean. Most don't want to live here in Australia, and if they do, they usually go back home sooner or later. Portugal is gorgeous. Quite different to Iraq, Afghanistan, etc... :) nice story mel my son in law if of Portugese hertiage mum and dad come here about 40 years ago a smashing chap we sling off at each other all the time..he nor I are sensitive like some. he tell me there are many pockets of Portugese here Sydney in particular... they integrated mel like the poms.. you wouldnt know if you didnt ask I think thats the difference if we went around wearing shrouds and scarfs over our heads.. we would give it away though.. I just want every one to respect each other and I find that a bit hard when I look at someone with a shawl over their face.and when they constantly expect those already here to integrate with them and their way of life. otherwise call them evil names its too convenient.. its already coming out it isnt working overseas.. and we wont be any different ,because we dont demand people adhere to our way of life.

yep this proves it. Cods is definitely mellie.

Both can't answer a question. Both have the exact same horrible writing skills. Both don't understand how to stay on topic.

Griff wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 12:09pm:

adelcrow wrote on Feb 17th, 2011 at 11:58am: If the Libs are denying an anti muslim campaign they should look at the rubbish Cory Bernardi bombarded letterboxes with at the last election. Having recieved some of that appauling material disguised as a questionaire (push polling) I have no problems saying there are some in the Liberal Party who are bare faced liars when it comes to denying anti Muslim propaganda. I reckon there is more hate and propaganda on the Muslim side than the Australian side : Full-bred Aussie with a longing for sharia law Sally Neighbour From: The Australian January 21, 2011 12:00AM IBRAHIM Siddiq-Conlon has a message for Australians, whether they want to hear it or not. "One day Australia will be ruled by sharia, no doubt," he declares. "That is why non-Muslims are worried, because they know one day they won't be able to drink their beer, they won't be able to eat their pork and they won't be able to do their homosexual acts, because one day they know they will be controlled." Siddiq-Conlon sits on the steps of the NSW Parliament House, the location he has chosen to launch his rhetorical attack on democracy, which he describes as "an evil system of life". "Right now in the Western world we're on the edge of a crisis, of extinction, because of democracy. OK, so don't tell me democracy has the answers and is peaceful. Democracy is the reason for the world's problems." Siddiq-Conlon is the face and voice of Sharia4Australia, a group formed in Sydney's southwest to agitate for Islamic law, starting with the introduction of sharia courts and ending, in his ideal world, with Islamic rule. While he claims to eschew violence, he unapologetically preaches hate. An online video posted by his group describes its members as "uncompromising [in] their disallegiance, disloyalty and hate for the disbelievers". "I hate the parliament. I hate [democracy] with a pure hate," he says. Moreover, it is obligatory for all Muslims to reject democracy, because it is a challenge to God's law: "They must hate it, speak out against it, and if that doesn't work, take action against it." Siddiq-Conlon formed Sharia4Australia last year, styling himself as the new champion for Islamic law in Australia.

why isnt this on the front pages of the newspaper.... its alright for him to hate us and spread the word.. but if we put this on the front pages we will be called racists and sh!t stirrers.. when are all these nice muslims, going to shut this guy up??..

can you see one of us sitting on the parliament steps in a muslim country calling sharia law all those names... wouldnt happen!..

sadly this is what we allow in this country from fear fear of the finger pointing.. my god we get it on here.. can you see nem and the other dill standing shoulder to shoulder to protect this guy and his rights..

I can because his kind of hate is ok with some.

Quote:

yep this proves it. Cods is definitely mellie. Both can't answer a question. Both have the exact same horrible writing skills. Both don't understand how to stay on topic.

Interesting you say that.
I had another member PM me yesterday saying exactly the same thing, the other member pointed out how you can try and change things here and there but your "style" cannot be covered up.
mellie has many sox here.

skippy. wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 3:05pm:

cods wrote on Feb 17th, 2011 at 2:41pm: skippy. wrote on Feb 17th, 2011 at 11:18am: Quote: Skip, and Alevine, do you consider yourselves Australian at all? I'm sorry you dont consider yourself Australian Mel,I know I am, but I'm not the product of a wog. I do believe thats real racists talk.... he is proudly not the products of a WOG.. mellie he used the W word... someone has come out of the closet.a bigot and a racist havent heard the W word in years.. I wondered how long before someone took the bait, the usual sucker came in hook line and sinker. What I was trying to point out, though you'd be too stupid to realise, is that the refugees coming here now are no different to the many we've had for 60 years, and just like 60 years ago the ones of today are treated as something to be afraid of. I wouldn't expect a silly old biddy to understand ,so dont bother answering me with your usual sad vile old rhetoric, back to your knitting.

BAIT.. uh huh nononononononono you dont get away with that one...LOL>.


the W word it is probably used in conjuntion with the F word knowing you.

you unpleasantness comes across loud and clear.. I do hope you stay well away from your 8 year old child.. contamination by association is common.

whats that old saying??? lay with a dog you end up smelling like one..

I can feel the skin crawling from this distance.

skippy. wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 3:11pm:

Quote: yep this proves it. Cods is definitely mellie. Both can't answer a question. Both have the exact same horrible writing skills. Both don't understand how to stay on topic. Interesting you say that. I had another member PM me yesterday saying exactly the same thing, the other member pointed out how you can try and change things here and there but your "style" cannot be covered up. mellie has many sox here.

Oh there's no denying it.

Kinda sad really. What does she hope to prove by doing this? That there is someone out there in the world with the exact same problem grammar and screwed up brain?  

cods wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 3:13pm:

skippy. wrote on Feb 17th, 2011 at 3:05pm: cods wrote on Feb 17th, 2011 at 2:41pm: skippy. wrote on Feb 17th, 2011 at 11:18am: Quote: Skip, and Alevine, do you consider yourselves Australian at all? I'm sorry you dont consider yourself Australian Mel,I know I am, but I'm not the product of a wog. I do believe thats real racists talk.... he is proudly not the products of a WOG.. mellie he used the W word... someone has come out of the closet.a bigot and a racist havent heard the W word in years.. I wondered how long before someone took the bait, the usual sucker came in hook line and sinker. What I was trying to point out, though you'd be too stupid to realise, is that the refugees coming here now are no different to the many we've had for 60 years, and just like 60 years ago the ones of today are treated as something to be afraid of. I wouldn't expect a silly old biddy to understand ,so dont bother answering me with your usual sad vile old rhetoric, back to your knitting. BAIT.. uh huh nononononononono you dont get away with that one...LOL>. the W word it is probably used in conjuntion with the F word knowing you. you unpleasantness comes across loud and clear.. I do hope you stay well away from your 8 year old child.. contamination by association is common. whats that old saying??? lay with a dog you end up smelling like one.. I can feel the skin crawling from this distance.

MUSO, would you please tell this silly old bitch to stop referring to my child, she sounds like some sort of kiddy stalker.

yep this proves it. Cods is definitely mellie.

Both can't answer a question. Both have the exact same horrible writing skills. Both don't understand how to stay on topic.




and you and skippy sound exactly the same as well.. and smell I fear... so what does that do for your mental state?


check mate.. I think you had both better go and read your own posts.. havent seen an answer from either of you ever its always..

"" your a bigot""... ""your a silly old so an so get on with your knitting""..

.and now we have the ""shes one the same as that one I know because my tiny little brain has worked it all out by my little self. and I am so pwoud of that""

how sad it isnt even remotly intellgent.

even I hope for better from the lefties.. been waiting a long time..

and not much changes.

hohum! stick with bigots ale..this has been done to death

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 3:17pm:

skippy. wrote on Feb 17th, 2011 at 3:11pm: Quote: yep this proves it. Cods is definitely mellie. Both can't answer a question. Both have the exact same horrible writing skills. Both don't understand how to stay on topic. Interesting you say that. I had another member PM me yesterday saying exactly the same thing, the other member pointed out how you can try and change things here and there but your "style" cannot be covered up. mellie has many sox here. Oh there's no denying it. Kinda sad really. What does she hope to prove by doing this? That there is someone out there in the world with the exact same problem grammar and screwed up brain?

Yep, pretty much.
she uses her sox to back up her fantasies.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 3:17pm:

Oh there's no denying it. Kinda sad really. What does she hope to prove by doing this? That there is someone out there in the world with the exact same problem grammar and screwed up brain?

You've got that right, but you forgot to mention the child molester inference. The posts are practically identical - Cods are just sloppier and misspelt to make her look authentic.

She's done it again to Skippy.

She needs to be reported.

Skippy - copy the posts and links.

Quote:

your a bigot""...

Another sure sign, mellie confuses your with YOU"RE,all the time too.

MUSO, would you please tell this silly old bitch to stop referring to my child, she sounds like some sort of paedophile.



xxxxxx



see what I mean a real miserable son of a gun.. shipale...

even now brings up the paedo name calling... I am not after your child mate wouldnt touch it with a barg pole.. but she should be wary of you... iky ikyyuck.when someone like you with a mouth like a drain is near a child I do worry.. perhaps muso should contact docs..but I wouldnt dream of suggesting such a thing.

when you find a little respect for others you may get some back..in the mean time its tit for tat.

I think there is a considerable difference between being anti-muslim and having a healthy concern for the social fabric and religious make-up of our country.

mantra wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 3:21pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 17th, 2011 at 3:17pm: Oh there's no denying it. Kinda sad really. What does she hope to prove by doing this? That there is someone out there in the world with the exact same problem grammar and screwed up brain?   You've got that right, but you forgot to mention the child molester inference. The posts are practically identical - Cods are just sloppier and misspelt to make her look authentic. She's done it again to Skippy. She needs to be reported. Skippy - copy the posts and links.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

why are you buying into this mantra with lies...you know full well there is not a word of truth in that...
if the gramma and spelling upsets you so much dont bloody read it.

but dont spread lies..

cods wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 3:26pm:

MUSO, would you please tell this silly old bitch to stop referring to my child, she sounds like some sort of paedophile. xxxxxx see what I mean a real miserable son of a gun.. shipale... even now brings up the paedo name calling... I am not after your child mate wouldnt touch it with a barg pole.. but she should be wary of you... iky ikyyuck.when someone like you with a mouth like a drain is near a child I do worry.. perhaps muso should contact docs..but I wouldnt dream of suggesting such a thing. when you find a little respect for others you may get some back..in the mean time its tit for tat.

You need to earn respect, you earn none.

Cods you’d have to go to the circus to see his/hers/its kid…….that’s where the freak show is…….no doubt comes after the bearded lady…….

skippy is alevine one the same. its for sure they follow on from each other every time and say the same stupid personal things all meaningless and all lies.

skippy. wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 3:28pm:

cods wrote on Feb 17th, 2011 at 3:26pm: MUSO, would you please tell this silly old bitch to stop referring to my child, she sounds like some sort of paedophile. xxxxxx see what I mean a real miserable son of a gun.. shipale... even now brings up the paedo name calling... I am not after your child mate wouldnt touch it with a barg pole.. but she should be wary of you... iky ikyyuck.when someone like you with a mouth like a drain is near a child I do worry.. perhaps muso should contact docs..but I wouldnt dream of suggesting such a thing. when you find a little respect for others you may get some back..in the mean time its tit for tat. You need to earn respect,I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.

same here.

viewpoint wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 3:29pm:

Cods you’d have to go to the circus to see his/hers/its kid…….that’s where the freak show is…….no doubt comes after the bearded lady…….

probably is the bearded lady...lol..can you believe being under the same roof as these types... anything thats petty and gotta have the last word...or boo hoo... and dont you dare say your...its you"re as anyone cares.but its such a big callllllllllllllllllllllllll

cods wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 3:30pm:

skippy is alevine one the same. its for sure they follow on from each other every time and say the same stupid personal things all meaningless and all lies.

Sounds just like what mellie says, the difference is, if Alevine agrees, I am happy for the mods to say if we use proxies or the same IP address, are you cods/mel?

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 3:27pm:

I think there is a considerable difference between being anti-muslim and having a healthy concern for the social fabric and religious make-up of our country.

I think you need to go back to pondering whether you agree with government cuts or not, considering your daddy got sacked because of one.

cods wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 3:30pm:

skippy is alevine one the same. its for sure they follow on from each other every time and say the same stupid personal things all meaningless and all lies.

Cods = mellie  TRUE
cods = mellie = bigot  TRUE

Where am I lying?

Cods, when will you, or you under the nickname of mellie, or mellie under the nickname of cods, which is the same as you, ever going to respond to my question of how the coaltiion is not spending more than the government considering they are deferring a commitment that they will still have to meet by 2015 (ie enter into forward estimates)??

skippy. wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 3:33pm:

cods wrote on Feb 17th, 2011 at 3:30pm: skippy is alevine one the same. its for sure they follow on from each other every time and say the same stupid personal things all meaningless and all lies. Sounds just like what mellie says, the difference is, if Alevine agrees, I am happy for the mods to say if we use proxies or the same IP address, are you cods/mel?

I am happy to reveal my IP address, no probs.

This is where cods/mellie or mellie/cods, who are the same, go quiet.

The mods here know I use one IP and no proxies, can you say the same thing cods/mellie/annie etal? OH the silence is gold.

So Alevine and I are happy for the mods to reveal if we use the same IP OR PROXIES, what about you mel?

skippy. wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 3:44pm:

So Alevine and I are happy for the mods to reveal if we use the same IP OR PROXIES, what about you mel?

She might be creating a new nickname by now.  Too bad the grammar will always be the same.

cods wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 3:33pm:

viewpoint wrote on Feb 17th, 2011 at 3:29pm: Cods you’d have to go to the circus to see his/hers/its kid…….that’s where the freak show is…….no doubt comes after the bearded lady……. probably is the bearded lady...lol..can you believe being under the same roof as these types... anything thats petty and gotta have the last word...or boo hoo... and dont you dare say your...its you"re as anyone cares.but its such a big callllllllllllllllllllllllll

PERSONAL ABUSE ABOUT MY CHILD

viewpoint wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 3:29pm:

Cods you’d have to go to the circus to see his/hers/its kid…….that’s where the freak show is…….no doubt comes after the bearded lady…….

Why are you SO ANGRY?
Were you beaten by nuns as a child?
Every post is a diatribe.
Contact your local university, you'd be a wonderful case study for the psych department

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Rooshit                    Same posters…….could be The Trooper…….
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skippy. wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 3:44pm:

So Alevine and I are happy for the mods to reveal if we use the same IP OR PROXIES, what about you mel?

and to think about it, mellie must have split personalities... her "cods" personality was a little more on edge. Just a tad.  But still it gives it away once you start seeing threads of just nonsense coming from 2 nicknames, and the nonsense happens to be going in the same circular motion, without ever reach an actual point.

...why did cods run away so quick smart?

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 3:57pm:

...why did cods run away so quick smart?

The same reason mellie is hiding under her rock.

skippy. wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 3:44pm:

So Alevine and I are happy for the mods to reveal if we use the same IP OR PROXIES, what about you mel?

I think that is a sad route to take.
The only time I asked Mozza to declare my IP was to show that retard who had gone to the trouble of looking up webject to declare I was in fact in San Diego.

Other than that I don't think it is necessary.

skippy. wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 4:02pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 17th, 2011 at 3:57pm: ...why did cods run away so quick smart? The same reason mellie is hiding under her rock.

I hope she emerges. Both her personalities were so much fun.

;D ;D ;D ;D

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Other than that I don't think it is necessary.

I wonder why?

skippy. wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 4:04pm:

Quote: Other than that I don't think it is necessary. I wonder why?

Because it should be about opinions and arguments - not about who shares a PC with who or if someone has another ID if they wish - or that sort of caper.

I personally don't see the point but if they did, then so what?

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 4:03pm:

skippy. wrote on Feb 17th, 2011 at 3:44pm: So Alevine and I are happy for the mods to reveal if we use the same IP OR PROXIES, what about you mel? I think that is a sad route to take. The only time I asked Mozza to declare my IP was to show that retard who had gone to the trouble of looking up webject to declare I was in fact in San Diego. Other than that I don't think it is necessary.

Nevertheless, I have nothing to hide so I am more than happy to reveal. Not to mention that it doesn't concern me from a hacking perspective because trust me when I say the security is far too complex for the righties on this forum. Especially if we use mellie as an example.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 4:08pm:

skippy. wrote on Feb 17th, 2011 at 4:04pm: Quote: Other than that I don't think it is necessary. I wonder why? Because it should be about opinions and arguments - not about who shares a PC with who or if someone has another ID if they wish - or that sort of caper. I personally don't see the point but if they did, then so what?

You don't see the point in much. Especially in the fact that your daddy lost his job through government cuts. Something your advocate continuously.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 4:08pm:

skippy. wrote on Feb 17th, 2011 at 4:04pm: Quote: Other than that I don't think it is necessary. I wonder why? Because it should be about opinions and arguments - not about who shares a PC with who or if someone has another ID if they wish - or that sort of caper. I personally don't see the point but if they did, then so what?

Because people manipulate threads by bringing in their socks to back up their argument.
many here think you are a sock also.

skippy. wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 4:11pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17th, 2011 at 4:08pm: skippy. wrote on Feb 17th, 2011 at 4:04pm: Quote: Other than that I don't think it is necessary. I wonder why? Because it should be about opinions and arguments - not about who shares a PC with who or if someone has another ID if they wish - or that sort of caper. I personally don't see the point but if they did, then so what? Because people manipulate threads by bringing in their socks to back up their argument. many here think you are a sock also.

Another of mellie's split personalities?

Nah... Andrei has a unique type of loopiness about him.  

skippy. wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 4:11pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17th, 2011 at 4:08pm: skippy. wrote on Feb 17th, 2011 at 4:04pm: Quote: Other than that I don't think it is necessary. I wonder why? Because it should be about opinions and arguments - not about who shares a PC with who or if someone has another ID if they wish - or that sort of caper. I personally don't see the point but if they did, then so what? Because people manipulate threads by bringing in their socks to back up their argument. many here think you are a sock also.

That's my point.
Many can think that. I care not a jot - and its completely irrelevant to a person's argument.

if they want to argue from two ID's let them. Who cares?
I have one ID and one set of opinions. Like I said I don't see the point in more than one, but it really isn't worth that much stress to trying to "out" these people.

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but it really isn't worth that much stress to trying to "out" these people.

No stress on my part, I love watching them squirm and hide when outed. ;D ;D ;D

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 4:15pm:

skippy. wrote on Feb 17th, 2011 at 4:11pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17th, 2011 at 4:08pm: skippy. wrote on Feb 17th, 2011 at 4:04pm: Quote: Other than that I don't think it is necessary. I wonder why? Because it should be about opinions and arguments - not about who shares a PC with who or if someone has another ID if they wish - or that sort of caper. I personally don't see the point but if they did, then so what? Because people manipulate threads by bringing in their socks to back up their argument. many here think you are a sock also. That's my point. Many can think that. I care not a jot - and its completely irrelevant to a person's argument. if they want to argue from two ID's let them. Who cares? I have one ID and one set of opinions. Like I said I don't see the point in more than one, but it really isn't worth that much stress to trying to "out" these people.

Actually you have 2 sets of opinions: You have one set for general day to day, and another set for when your original opinions actually happen to your family, in which case it changes dramatically.

How do you say dramatically in Afrikaans?

Only a few people here have more than 1 ID and they only seem to use them for a few days.
I would'nt get to paranoid about it

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 4:22pm:

How do you say dramatically in Afrikaans?

there is no literal translation, you'd emphasize with 'met dramatries' at the end of the sentence.

To say something dramatically different is

dit moi verander met dramaties.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 4:28pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 17th, 2011 at 4:22pm: How do you say dramatically in Afrikaans? there is no literal translation, you'd emphasize with 'met dramatries' at the end of the sentence. To say something dramatically different is dit moi verander met dramaties.

I love Afrikaans!!  

Really, I do.

Your opinion is whatever it is. You're entitled to it.

All I'll say on that subject is that the Afrikaner people are a very proud people who built a country from nothing following the Great Trek of Paul Kruger.

A very misunderstood and maligned people.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 3:57pm:

...why did cods run away so quick smart?

well why would I stay around and watch you make a fool of yourself...

what happens is I find myself coming down to your.ooops your're , level and that worries me seriously it does.

beside my gramma isnt up to your're scratch so I thought you can talk to yourself and that way you might even say something nice for a change..

in any case.I am over this numbing interchange. be as bitchy as you like with your're alto-ego. I am sorry the gramma/spell isnt up to your're standards but I dont plan on doing anything about it.

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what happens is I find myself coming down to your.ooops your're , level and that worries me seriously it does

She even got that wrong.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 4:03pm:

skippy. wrote on Feb 17th, 2011 at 3:44pm: So Alevine and I are happy for the mods to reveal if we use the same IP OR PROXIES, what about you mel? I think that is a sad route to take. The only time I asked Mozza to declare my IP was to show that retard who had gone to the trouble of looking up webject to declare I was in fact in San Diego. Other than that I don't think it is necessary.

why would anyone want to prove anything to!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I couldnt careless who or what anyone else is or isnt..some folks must have a computer implant that they cant get rid of from time to time.can you hear headbanging andrei???

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 4:37pm:

Your opinion is whatever it is. You're entitled to it. All I'll say on that subject is that the Afrikaner people are a very proud people who built a country from nothing following the Great Trek of Paul Kruger. A very misunderstood and maligned people.

do you speak Afrikan andrei?

cods wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 4:39pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 17th, 2011 at 3:57pm: ...why did cods run away so quick smart? well why would I stay around and watch you make a fool of yourself... what happens is I find myself coming down to your.ooops your're , level and that worries me seriously it does. beside my gramma isnt up to your're scratch so I thought you can talk to yourself and that way you might even say something nice for a change.. in any case.I am over this numbing interchange. be as bitchy as you like with your're alto-ego. I am sorry the gramma/spell isnt up to your're standards but I dont plan on doing anything about it.

My biggest concern is that bigots who try to protect Australia's way of life can't even write properly. At least learn the language you are so determined to try and protect! Aren't you meant to be British? Or wait...that's right...now you'r Portuguese. Next it'll be German or something.

It was only a matter of time...


http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1297924677/0#0


salad in wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 4:37pm:

Quote: Hospital shame as Tracey Lake miscarries baby in toilet A PREGNANT woman was made to wait nearly two hours at a Melbourne hospital emergency department before she lost her baby in the toilet. And it was more than four hours before Tracey Lake - who was 10 to 12 weeks pregnant - even saw a doctor at Frankston Hospital, her family says. http://www.news.com.au/national/hospital-shame-as-mum-loses-baby-miscarries-baby-in-toilet-after-two-hour-wait-for-help/story-e6frfkvr-1226007243086 Should Tracey change her name to Fatima Afrah in order to attract funding to meet her medical needs? Why is it that there is no limit to the money spent on asylum shoppers yet apparently the health budget has been snipped? Why is it that we can fly mourners from Christmas Island to attend a funeral yet at the same time we ask an Australian to deal with her miscarriage in a toilet? If we have a compassionate government in power what are the limits if any of that compassion? Does that compassion extend to AUSTRALIANS in need of medical attention?

WTF!?

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 4:37pm:

Your opinion is whatever it is. You're entitled to it. All I'll say on that subject is that the Afrikaner people are a very proud people who built a country from nothing following the Great Trek of Paul Kruger. A very misunderstood and maligned people.

No need to get all defensive. I said I loved Afrikaan - I do, I really wish to learn it one day.

See, unlike you Hickory retardo bacon, I love to expand my horizons and try new things, not things to do within my family history/background or something my snob school taught me. It's called expanding my knowledge and seeing as much as I can to actually make informed opinions.

Try it one day.

Equitist wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 4:47pm:

It was only a matter of time... http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1297924677/0#0 salad in wrote on Feb 17th, 2011 at 4:37pm: Quote: Hospital shame as Tracey Lake miscarries baby in toilet A PREGNANT woman was made to wait nearly two hours at a Melbourne hospital emergency department before she lost her baby in the toilet. And it was more than four hours before Tracey Lake - who was 10 to 12 weeks pregnant - even saw a doctor at Frankston Hospital, her family says. http://www.news.com.au/national/hospital-shame-as-mum-loses-baby-miscarries-baby-in-toilet-after-two-hour-wait-for-help/story-e6frfkvr-1226007243086 Should Tracey change her name to Fatima Afrah in order to attract funding to meet her medical needs? Why is it that there is no limit to the money spent on asylum shoppers yet apparently the health budget has been snipped? Why is it that we can fly mourners from Christmas Island to attend a funeral yet at the same time we ask an Australian to deal with her miscarriage in a toilet? If we have a compassionate government in power what are the limits if any of that compassion? Does that compassion extend to AUSTRALIANS in need of medical attention? WTF!?

I'm over it Equitist :( I've had enough dealings with bigots today. Let them go through their bigotted ways. Karma always kicks people in the arse so it's okay.

cods wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 4:44pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17th, 2011 at 4:37pm: Your opinion is whatever it is. You're entitled to it. All I'll say on that subject is that the Afrikaner people are a very proud people who built a country from nothing following the Great Trek of Paul Kruger. A very misunderstood and maligned people. do you speak Afrikan andrei?

I do cods, yes. I speak it ok and could hold a conversation in Afrikaans if needed.

Speaking Afrikaans is not expanding my horizons is it???

Riiiiight

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 4:50pm:

Speaking Afrikaans is not expanding my horizons is it??? Riiiiight

Would you had your mother not been from South Africa?

My bet is no.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 4:50pm:

Speaking Afrikaans is not expanding my horizons is it??? Riiiiight

I guess you have a point..lol..how often would you go to St Africa?..

I always note the springbox when they sing their anthem they really get into it in their native language.. why is that?.. I would have though English would have been the predominant language

cods wrote on Feb 17^th, 2011 at 10:16pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 17th, 2011 at 4:50pm: Speaking Afrikaans is not expanding my horizons is it??? Riiiiight I guess you have a point..lol..how often would you go to St Africa?.. I always note the springbox when they sing their anthem they really get into it in their native language.. why is that?.. I would have though English would have been the predominant language

predominant language of South Africa is IsiZulu