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Title: Laser fusion in California Post by renegadeviking on Oct 26th, 2010 at 9:57am
the USA is building a nuclear laser in North California. Expensive. see attachment for link
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/7970619/Obama-could-kill-fossil-fuels-overnight-with-a-nuclear-dash-for-thorium.html http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/06/01/worlds-largest-laser-to-attempt-nuclear-fusion/ |
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Title: Re: Laser fusion in California Post by muso on Oct 26th, 2010 at 10:25am
I fixed your links. Very interesting. The second article suggests that they are going to try hydrogen fusion. Maybe it's just journalistic simplification, but I wonder why they would go for that, as opposed to deuterium and tritium fusion.
The effort needed to fuse hydrogen is much much greater. |
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Title: Re: Laser fusion in California Post by renegadeviking on Oct 27th, 2010 at 5:43am
It doubles as advancing technology for Boeing 747-400 YAL-1, maybe there is going to be a YAL-2 in future or High Energy Liquid Laser Area Defence System in future.
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Title: Re: Laser fusion in California Post by Axle on Oct 30th, 2010 at 12:21am
Some experts don't think that fusion reactors will live up to their promise:
"“Long touted as an inexhaustible energy source for the next century, fusion as it is now being developed will almost certainly be too expensive and unreliable for commercial use.” The dominating goal of the fusion program is to produce a reactor fueled by deuterium and tritium, isotopes of hydrogen containing one and two extra neutrons. This choice of fuel greatly eases the problem of achieving an energy-producing fusion reaction, but the choice also has features that make it far more diScult to turn that energy source into a useful power plant. The most serious diSculty concerns the very high energy neutrons released in the deuterium-tritium (D-T) reaction. These uncharged nuclear particles damage the reactor structure and make it radioactive. A chain of undesirable eFects ensures that any reactor employing D-T fusion will be a large, complex, expensive, and unreliable source of power. That is hardly preferable to present-day fission reactors, much less the improved fission reactors that are almost sure to come." www.askmar.com/.../The%20Trouble%20With%20Fusion.pdf |
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Title: Re: Laser fusion in California Post by muso on Nov 15th, 2010 at 3:56pm
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Title: Re: Laser fusion in California Post by renegadeviking on Dec 12th, 2010 at 10:50am Axle wrote on Oct 30th, 2010 at 12:21am:
Don't count on it. You got the the European Union through the legally distinct organisation EURATOM, India, Japan, People's Republic of China, Russia, South Korea, and the United States of America (USA) working on ITER reactor, EU has another product and US has their own. US has DIII-D · TFTR · NSTX · NCSX · UCLA ET · Alcator C-Mod · LDX · MSTNIF · OMEGA · Nova · Nike · Shiva · Argus · Cyclops · Janus · Long path · Z machine · PACER Iter Timeline Date Event 2006-11-21 Seven participants formally agreed to fund the creation of a nuclear fusion reactor.[8] 2008 Site preparation start, ITER Itinerary start[11] 2009 Site preparation completion[11] 2010 Tokamak complex excavation start[11] 2011 Predicted: Tokamak complex construction start[11] 2015 Predicted: Tokamak assembly start[11] 2018 Predicted: Tokamak assembly completion, start torus Pump down[11] 2019-11 Predicted: Achievement of first plasma[11] 2027-03 Predicted: Start of deuterium-tritium operation[11] 2038 Predicted: End of project |
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Title: Re: Laser fusion in California Post by muso on Dec 12th, 2010 at 11:11am Axle wrote on Oct 30th, 2010 at 12:21am:
It's a recognised issue with the proposed D-T reaction. The alternative is Aneutronic fusion. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aneutronic_fusion There are a few candidates on that page. Helium 3 is the prime candidate, but of course it's very difficult to come by. There is plenty of it on the moon, and that may provide a possibility for the future. |
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Title: Re: Laser fusion in California Post by bobbythebat1 on Mar 2nd, 2011 at 8:15pm
I think fusion should be abandoned in favor of Thorium reactors.
We know they work, they can't melt down, they can make other dangerous isotopes such as Plutonium 239 safe & we have plenty of Thorium. |
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Title: Re: Laser fusion in California Post by gizmo_2655 on Mar 2nd, 2011 at 9:35pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 2nd, 2011 at 8:15pm:
Any reactive material that works in a power reactor would be usable.... |
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