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Message started by abu_rashid on Sep 5th, 2010 at 12:06am

Title: High ranking U.S military purchasing kiddie porn
Post by abu_rashid on Sep 5th, 2010 at 12:06am
Pentagon declined to investigate hundreds of purchases of child pornography
By John Cook john Cook – Fri Sep 3, 10:30 am ET



A 2006 Immigration and Customs Enforcement investigation into the purchase of child pornography online turned up more than 250 civilian and military employees of the Defense Department -- including some with the highest available security clearance -- who  used credit cards or PayPal to purchase images of children in sexual situations. But the Pentagon investigated only a handful of the cases, Defense Department records show.

The cases turned up during a 2006 ICE inquiry, called Project Flicker, which targeted overseas processing of child-porn payments. As part of the probe, ICE investigators gained access to the names and credit card information of more than 5,000 Americans who had subscribed to websites offering images of child pornography. Many of those individuals provided military email addresses or physical addresses with Army or fleet ZIP codes when they purchased the subscriptions.

In a related inquiry, the Pentagon's Defense Criminal Investigative Service (DCIS) cross-checked the ICE list against military databases to come up with a list of Defense employees and contractors who appeared to be guilty of purchasing child  pornography. The names included staffers for the secretary of defense, contractors for the ultra-secretive National Security Agency, and a program manager at the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency. But the DCIS opened investigations into only 20 percent of the individuals identified, and succeeded in prosecuting just a handful.

The Boston Globe first reported the Pentagon's role in Project Flicker in July, citing DCIS investigative reports (PDF) showing that at least 30 Defense Department employees were investigated.

But new Project Flicker investigative reports obtained by The Upshot through the Freedom of Information Act, which you can read here, show that DCIS investigators identified 264 Defense employees or contractors who had purchased child pornography online. Astonishingly, nine of those had "Top Secret Sensitive Compartmentalized Information" security clearances, meaning they had access to the nation's most sensitive secrets. All told, 76 of the individuals had Secret or higher clearances. But DCIS investigated only 52 of the suspects, and just 10 were ever charged with viewing or purchasing child pornography. Without greater public disclosure of how these cases wound down, it's impossible to know how or whether any of the names listed in the Project Flicker papers came in for additional scrutiny. It's conceivable that some of them were picked up by local law enforcement, but it seems likely that most of the people flagged by the investigation did not have their military careers disrupted in the context of the DCIS inquiry.

Among those charged were Gary Douglass Grant, a captain in the Army Reserves and a judge advocate general, or military prosecutor. After investigators executing a search warrant found child pornography on his computer, he pleaded guilty last year to state charges of possession of obscene matter of a minor in a sexual act in California. Others included contractors for the NSA with Top Secret clearances; one of them -- a former contractor -- fled the country after being indicted and is believed to be in Libya.

But the vast majority of those investigated, including an active-duty lieutenant colonel in the Army and an official in the office of the secretary of defense, were never charged. On top of that, 212 people on ICE's list were never investigated at all.

According to the records, DCIS prioritized the investigations by focusing on people who had security clearances -- since those who have a taste for child pornography can be vulnerable to blackmail and espionage. The documents show that the probe then concentrated on people who had been previously suspected of or convicted of sex crimes, or had access to children as part of their Defense Department duties. But at least some of the people on the Project Flicker list with security clearances were never pursued and could possibly remain on the job: DCIS only investigated 52 people, and 76 of those on the Project Flicker list had clearances.

A DCIS spokesman didn't return phone calls. But the agency's own documents obtained via The Upshot's FOIA request indicate that the decision to press investigations forward hinged largely on questions of the resources available to the investigators. "Due to DCIS headquarters' direction and other DCIS investigative priorities, this investigation is cancelled" is a common summation in the files.

A source familiar with the Project Flicker investigations -- who requested anonymity because public disclosure could jeopardize this person's job -- confirmed that departmental resources, and priorities, were decisive factors in letting inquiries lapse.

DCIS is primarily tasked with rooting out contractor fraud and investigating security breaches; its 400 staffers were already plenty busy before Project Flicker dropped 264 more names onto their caseloads. And child pornography investigations are difficult to prosecute. Many judges wouldn't issue search warrants based on years-old evidence saying the targets subscribed to a kiddie porn website once.

TBC..

Title: Re: High ranking U.S military purchasing kiddie porn
Post by abu_rashid on Sep 5th, 2010 at 12:08am
"We were stuck in a situation where we had some great information, but didn't have the resources to run with it," the source told The Upshot. Many of the investigative reports obtained by The Upshot end with a similar citation of scarce resources:

Of course, other federal agencies, including ICE and the FBI, may have prosecuted some of the Project Flicker names the DCIS ignored. But that's unlikely, given that some of the DCIS investigations were closed due to lack of cooperation from ICE.

In one case, involving an Army Reserve corporal in the Pittsburgh area, a DCIS agent expressed exasperation after repeatedly trying to get ICE to collaborate with him on the investigation: "Based upon the complete non-responsiveness of ICE ... it is recommended that [the] matter be closed."

As for the 212 Project Flicker names that DCIS didn't investigate, the source familiar with the investigation said there was no systematic effort to inform their superiors or commanding officers of their suspected purchases of child pornography.

Source: Yahoo News

Title: Re: High ranking U.S military purchasing kiddie porn
Post by stryder110011 on Sep 5th, 2010 at 1:10am
Is there a point in all this Al rashid, or just to demonstrate that paephodiles are not limited to the non military world ???

Title: Re: High ranking U.S military purchasing kiddie porn
Post by abu_rashid on Sep 5th, 2010 at 1:22am
A point? What is the point in remaining ignorant about this? The point is merely expose what happens....

It's no secret that everytime a paedophile ring is busted high ranking members of society, judges, police, politicians, school teachers etc. are often implicated in it. The fact that some of the highest clearance personnel in the U.S military are doing this, and the fact the Pentagon is turning a blind eye to it isn't worth "raising a point" in your opinion??

Title: Re: High ranking U.S military purchasing kiddie porn
Post by sprintcyclist on Sep 5th, 2010 at 4:58am

or maybe islamabus point is, child porn is illegal in the nonislamic world and whoever is involved will be prosecuted fully by the law ?


Title: Re: High ranking U.S military purchasing kiddie porn
Post by freediver on Sep 5th, 2010 at 8:03am
Abu do you realise that many of these images could be of children that under Islamic law they could legally marry and then rape?

Do you oppose child abuse in general, or only when it occurs outside of the context of Islam?

Title: Re: High ranking U.S military purchasing kiddie porn
Post by abu_rashid on Sep 5th, 2010 at 10:00am
sprint,


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or maybe islamabus point is, child porn is illegal in the nonislamic world and whoever is involved will be prosecuted fully by the law ?


If that's the case why'd they turn a blind eye to it? Or didn't you read the article just thought you'd open your mouth and spew out your usual ignorant garbage anyway?

And under Islam ALL porn is illegal and is prosecuted severely.

free,


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Abu do you realise that many of these images could be of children that under Islamic law they could legally marry and then rape?


No I don't, because this is nonsense, and has nothing to do with abusing kids to make porn. If it makes you feel better about this though, go ahead...


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Do you oppose child abuse in general, or only when it occurs outside of the context of Islam?


Of course I oppose all child abuse.

Title: Re: High ranking U.S military purchasing kiddie porn
Post by helian on Sep 5th, 2010 at 10:04am
Do you think Mohammed masturbated at the thought of penetrating his 9 year old soon-to-be bride?

Title: Re: High ranking U.S military purchasing kiddie porn
Post by freediver on Sep 5th, 2010 at 10:29pm

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No I don't, because this is nonsense, and has nothing to do with abusing kids to make porn. If it makes you feel better about this though, go ahead...


Abu why do you think child porn is illegal? It's because it is or leads to child abuse. We make it illegal to stamp out the sort of activity that is considered perfectly legitimate in Islamic societies. It is hard to take you seriously when you criticise these people for doing something when you yourself promote far worse.

What exactly is your criticism anyway? That they don't marry the 13 year olds? Is forcing a 13 year old girl to have sex with you OK so long as you marry hger and do it repeatedly and don't take a picture?

Title: Re: High ranking U.S military purchasing kiddie porn
Post by abu_rashid on Sep 8th, 2010 at 8:11am
Seriously fd, your 'logic' is just nonsensical.

By your 'logic', Australia promotes, condones and accepts 16 yo. girls engaging in pornography, because it permits them to be married. You don't do a lot of filtering of your thoughts do you? Just blurt it all out without even putting it to the scrutiny of your own good judgement.

The idea that marriage = pornography is just ludicrous. The issue of this thread is pornography, and the usage of kids for pornography, and the accessing of that pornography by high ranking U.S military officials, and the U.S DoDs turning a blind eye to this. Do you get what the topic is about now? Or am I just wasting my time trying to reason with you?

If you want to honestly have a discussion about age of consent then feel free to open a discussion on it, I've addressed the issues several times before, and am happy to do it again, I'm not going to descend to your level though and mix it up with pornography.

Title: Re: High ranking U.S military purchasing kiddie porn
Post by freediver on Sep 8th, 2010 at 9:31am

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By your 'logic', Australia promotes, condones and accepts 16 yo. girls engaging in pornography, because it permits them to be married.


Abu I did not say that you promote pronography. I get that you oppose it. It just seems hypocritical that's all. Like it has absolutely nothing to do with the welfare of children. Your moral code draws some very arbitrary lines that make you look pretty silly when you criticise these people for pornography. Like opposing child pornography while promoting child sex slavery.


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The issue of this thread is pornography, and the usage of kids for pornography, and the accessing of that pornography by high ranking U.S military officials, and the U.S DoDs turning a blind eye to this. Do you get what the topic is about now?


I can see what the topic is. What I asked is what your criticism is. You seem remarkably reluctant to state it explicitly.

Title: Re: High ranking U.S military purchasing kiddie porn
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Sep 8th, 2010 at 10:59am

abu_rashid wrote on Sep 5th, 2010 at 1:22am:
A point? What is the point in remaining ignorant about this? The point is merely expose what happens....

It's no secret that everytime a paedophile ring is busted high ranking members of society, judges, police, politicians, school teachers etc. are often implicated in it. The fact that some of the highest clearance personnel in the U.S military are doing this, and the fact the Pentagon is turning a blind eye to it isn't worth "raising a point" in your opinion??



Perhaps they should go overseas and legally marry a nine year old instead?

Title: Re: High ranking U.S military purchasing kiddie porn
Post by aussiefree2ride on Sep 8th, 2010 at 7:53pm
Abu, I suspect, with your hatered of the West, you would be happier living in a Muslim country

Title: Re: High ranking U.S military purchasing kiddie porn
Post by abu_rashid on Sep 8th, 2010 at 7:57pm

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Abu, I suspect, with your hatered of the West, you would be happier living in a Muslim country


Perhaps, too bad there are none. The West colonised all the Muslim lands and turned them into Western-dominated puppet states.

Title: Re: High ranking U.S military purchasing kiddie porn
Post by aussiefree2ride on Sep 8th, 2010 at 8:40pm

abu_rashid wrote on Sep 8th, 2010 at 7:57pm:

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Abu, I suspect, with your hatered of the West, you would be happier living in a Muslim country


Perhaps, too bad there are none. The West colonised all the Muslim lands and turned them into Western-dominated puppet states.



Not all.

Title: Re: High ranking U.S military purchasing kiddie porn
Post by abu_rashid on Sep 9th, 2010 at 9:00am
Yes all, without exception.

Even those they present to us as "the enemies" are in fact covert allies. This has been quite well exposed during the "war on terror" and even during the first Gulf war when countries like Syria and Iran were discovered aiding the U.S against the Muslims. Many Muslim political analysts have been saying it for decades, but only during that time did it become abundantly clear for any thinking person to see. Obviously people like yourself will still remain blinded, but the evidence is there and is clear enough.

Btw, just making the two Eids public holidays, or because the leader gets around in flowing robes, or poor thieves get their hand cut doesn't make a country Islamic, if that's what you're going to claim.

Title: Re: High ranking U.S military purchasing kiddie porn
Post by freediver on Sep 9th, 2010 at 9:07am
So what makes it Islamic? When they can get themselves a 13 year old girl and a slave without nosy westerners complaining?

Title: Re: High ranking U.S military purchasing kiddie porn
Post by aussiefree2ride on Sep 9th, 2010 at 1:20pm

abu_rashid wrote on Sep 9th, 2010 at 9:00am:
Yes all, without exception.

Even those they present to us as "the enemies" are in fact covert allies. This has been quite well exposed during the "war on terror" and even during the first Gulf war when countries like Syria and Iran were discovered aiding the U.S against the Muslims. Many Muslim political analysts have been saying it for decades, but only during that time did it become abundantly clear for any thinking person to see. Obviously people like yourself will still remain blinded, but the evidence is there and is clear enough.

Btw, just making the two Eids public holidays, or because the leader gets around in flowing robes, or poor thieves get their hand cut doesn't make a country Islamic, if that's what you're going to claim.



Abu, our two cultures are not compatible.  Individually, I know some Muslims who are as good as people get, but on a large scale, we should`t mix. Bosnia anyone?

Title: Re: High ranking U.S military purchasing kiddie porn
Post by abu_rashid on Sep 10th, 2010 at 12:19am

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Abu, our two cultures are not compatible.  Individually, I know some Muslims who are as good as people get, but on a large scale, we should`t mix.


I beg to differ, and present myself as an example that is is not so. I am an Aussie and a Muslim, and I have found no cultural "incompatibility" at all, and neither have the thousands of other Aussies like myself who've embraced Islam.

You are the one who is not compatible, not compatible with Muslims, other Australians, Australia's multicultural ideals, and many other things. This is probably because you're some white-supremo nutter who needs to be put into a Soviet-style re-education camp.


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Bosnia anyone?


Ahh you mean the country where Christian Europeans went around slaughtering their neighbours because they were Muslims??? Yeh good example, of how barbaric and uncivilised some Western Christians still are.

Title: Re: High ranking U.S military purchasing kiddie porn
Post by freediver on Sep 10th, 2010 at 8:46am

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I beg to differ, and present myself as an example that is is not so. I am an Aussie and a Muslim, and I have found no cultural "incompatibility" at all, and neither have the thousands of other Aussies like myself who've embraced Islam.


So you support democracy and oppose it at the same time? Maybe you believe that Australian culture has nothing at all to do with democracy. Or is this where you argue that because destroying our democracy and freedom is a long term plan you can pretend it doesn't matter?

Title: Re: High ranking U.S military purchasing kiddie porn
Post by abu_rashid on Sep 10th, 2010 at 5:19pm
As an Aussie I am under no obligation to proclaim democracy as my way of life... am I?

Or is democracy much like Soviet-communism when it actually comes down to it? Or Maoism? either you eat, breathe and dream it, or you get shipped out to a gulag?

I'm sorry, but as an Aussie, I never considered democracy to be an integral part of my identity.

Your 'conformist ideology' is not particularly 'Australian' if you ask me.

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