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Title: Vaccines Post by it_is_the_light on Aug 25th, 2010 at 8:26am
http://www.infowars.com/flu-plan-scandal-ahead-an-urgent-warning/
Flu Plan Scandal Ahead: An Urgent Warning Joseph Mercola LewRockwell.com August 24, 2010 Barbara Loe Fisher, founder of the National Vaccine Information Center, discusses the outcome of last year’s swine flu debacle, and the potentially harmful changes that are being made to this season’s flu vaccine as a result. Source: Barbara Fisher Interview Transcript Dr. Mercola’s Comments: The World Health Organization (WHO) declared the swine flu pandemic officially over on August 9th. The swine flu, which we were warned would kill millions, if not tens of millions of people, turned out to be a complete “dud” as far as pandemics go, but health agencies and governments around the world still managed to create massive fear of this hybrid flu virus. And, of course, vaccine makers made millions off their novel H1N1 vaccines. For those in the southern hemisphere, like Australia, the flu season has already begun, and the health hazards of this year’s seasonal trivalent vaccine have already become evident. For the rest of you, the flu season is nearing, and another round of advertisements for flu vaccines are about to hit the media. Summary of a Failed Pandemic WATCH VIDEO REPORT* Last year the United States contracted for the manufacture of over 170 million doses of swine flu vaccine. Probably the most significant accomplishment of this website was that we were able to contribute to the fact that only 90 million doses were used in the United States. Armed with the facts, less than one-third of the US population fell for the fear mongering. Fresh food that lasts from eFoods Direct (Ad) It quickly became very clear that this was in fact a very mild disease that was not going to kill people in large numbers. Yet the projected number of casualties in the US alone was declared to be between 60,000 to 90,000! And the campaign to hype up the fear and force the untested, unproven pandemic vaccine on the masses through any means reached previously unheard of proportions. Within a week of Australia reporting that the virus appeared to be 40 times less lethal than originally feared, the WHO instructed countries to simply stop lab confirming suspected H1N1 cases, which meant that any and all flu-like symptoms were reported as pandemic influenza, padding the statistics. STILL, despite this misrepresentation of the facts, last year’s flu season turned out to be one of the mildest in recent years! Read entire article http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig5/mercola54.1.html |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by muso on Aug 25th, 2010 at 8:45am
It's great to talk about Swine Flu in retrospect, but this virus had the potential to develop into a much more deadly strain, similar to the Spanish Influenza which killed millions of people worldwide. This one turned out to be a fizzer. It's all good. We can breathe a sigh of relief.
That's the things about viruses - they mutate. This one had the potential to be much more serious than it turned out to be by virtue of the fact that it crossed the line between species. It's all a question of having adequate risk controls in place. Let's suppose that it had mutated and that no vaccine was available. What do you suppose the resultant conspiracy theory would have been then? That it was all a CIA plot to reduce world populations? Should they be worried about that and try to address the risk by vaccinating as many people as possible, or should they just say - "Oh the latest internet conspiracy says that it's ok, and it's all about the phamaceutical companies making money" ? Trust you to be sucked in by any conspiranut disinformation that's going around. |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by gizmo_2655 on Aug 25th, 2010 at 9:46am
Here you go Light...this site might explain a few things about Mercola and the Flu vaccines...
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=2116 |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by it_is_the_light on Aug 25th, 2010 at 7:17pm
Let's suppose that it had mutated and that no vaccine was available.
__________ lets suppose the establishment has been lying to you your whole life and and you are a taxable bloodbag, little more namaste |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by Jasignature on Aug 25th, 2010 at 7:41pm
Ah yes, the Bird and Swine Flu.
Every Industry has its 'fearmongering' like a Carrot on the end of a stick above the Horses head. These are a few of the Medical Industries I guess. So two diseases germinated in filthy over-populated cities: Beijing & Mexico City. Luckily a lot of nations and people of the world don't live as filthy an existence as these two cities (Smog, sewer, etc). So just keeping clean and healthy to some degree tends to nullify such strains. Sure it can kill Australians, especially old people, infants and people of poor health like drug and alcohol uses, even run-down or stressed people. But in truth these diseases just blow over. Remember, in Australia - the Cold and Flu are good for you! (I bet you don't know why) :P |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by it_is_the_light on Aug 27th, 2010 at 7:31am
http://www.infowars.com/india-halts-vaccine-programme-after-the-deaths-of-four-children/
India halts vaccine programme after the deaths of four children Christina England vactruth.com August 27, 20120 Vaccine programmes grind to a halt in India once more, when four children died after they received the measles vaccination in Lucknow. The four children were reported to have fainted soon after they were vaccinated and witnesses reported seeing the children’s eyes roll back as they began to have seizures. All of the children were under the age of two years of age, with the youngest being just six months. Sadly the children died before medical aid workers could reach them. As news of the deaths spread, immunization drives in 41 villages have been halted until further investigations have taken place. The Indian Express stated in their article “4 children die within minutes of vaccination” that- “The immunisation programme was being conducted as part of the government’s Jachha Bachha Suraksha Abhiyan launched on August 15. Minutes after vaccination, the children started gasping for breath.” NDTV reported that the Health Ministry has ordered an inquiry after the four infants, all now believed to be below nine months, died after the vaccine. The inquiry team has yet to reach Uttar Pradesh, however, the Uttar Pradesh government has announced compensation for the families of the victims. This is not the first report of adverse reactions after the measles vaccination. The measles vaccine has had a dubious and rather tainted history. In the UK, a government report dating back to 1968 , exposed on the website VacTruth.com in May of this year stated:- Section 6 – Reactions “Mild febrile reactions and transient rashes may be expected to follow the administration of the vaccine in a substantial proportion of cases. The rise of body temperature which may occur from 5 to 10 days after vaccination – usually about the 8th day – is due to the multiplication of the attenuated virus. This febrile reaction, when it occurs, seldom lasts more than 24 to 48 hours. The Committee on Safety of Drugs has agreed that severe and unusual reactions to measles vaccine should be reported on the yellow card used for reporting adverse reactions to drugs. The Committee does not however, wish to receive reports of mild febrile reactions and rashes associated with the use of this vaccine.” This proves that the UK government as far back 1968 knew that the measles vaccine gave children adverse reactions, in fact, after reading the papers it is very clear that they were quite happy to be offering babies a vaccine that they admit, in a substantial proportion of cases, gives them high fevers and rashes. That same report stated in section 7 that it was unwise for this vaccine to be given to children under the age of 9 months. “Section 7 – Routine Vaccination The live measles vaccine should not be given to children below the age of nine months since it usually fails to immunise such children, owing to the presence of maternally transmitted antibodies.” The Joint Committee of Vaccination and Immunization who advise the government said that the vaccine should instead be given to children in their second year of life after the completion of the immunisation against diphtheria, tetanus whooping cough and polio! Yet it appears that none of this was ever even considered before the children of India were vaccinated. In India ,this is the third vaccine disaster this year. In April the Indian Times wrote an article “Hib vaccine: Are press releases telling whole truth?” and reported that their country was being misled over the effectiveness of the Hib vaccine. The vaccine for Haemophilus influenzae type b (the main cause of childhood meningitis and pneumonia) was advertised as being safe and effective however, in the Medical Journal of Medical Research three senior paediatricians accused three agencies, USAID, John Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health the Hib Initiative and the GAVI Alliance of misrepresentation of the facts by selectively and inaccurately reporting the actual findings of the Bangladesh Hib probe study in order to promote the vaccine’s wider use. The India Times said :- “According to the Agencies joint press release the results of the Bangladesh study conducted in 2007 “showed that the routine immunization of infants with the Hib conjugate vaccine prevented over one-third of life-threatening pneumonia cases and approximately 90 per cent of Hib meningitis cases”. It further said “this vaccine study builds on the evidence of the real burden of Hib pneumonia” in Indonesia. Both these statements argue in favour of Hib vaccination in developing countries through “selective interpretation/presentation of the actual research findings”, says Jacob Puliyel at St. Stephens Hospital in New Dehli and one of the doctors finding fault with the press release. |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by it_is_the_light on Aug 28th, 2010 at 4:24pm
http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/europe-probes-swine-flu-jab-sleep-disorder-link/story-e6frfku0-1225911210998
THE European Medicines Agency is investigating a possible link between the Pandemrix swine flu vaccine and the sleeping disorder narcolepsy amid concerns in Finland and Sweden. "The European Medicines Agency has launched a review of Pandemrix on the request of the European Commission to investigate whether there is a link between cases of narcolepsy and vaccination with Pandemrix," the EMA said. "A limited number of cases was reported, all collected through spontaneous reporting systems, mainly in Sweden and Finland," the London-based agency added in a statement. Finland's National Institute for Health and Welfare on Tuesday recommended halting the use of Pandemrix until a probe into a possible link to narcolepsy among children is concluded. Last week, neighbouring Sweden's Medical Products Agency also opened an inquiry into the Pandemrix vaccine following reports of young people having developed symptoms consistent with narcolepsy after getting their shot. Narcolepsy is a condition in which sufferers suddenly fall into a deep sleep. "Its precise cause is unknown, but it is generally considered to be triggered by a combination of genetic and environmental factors, including infections," the EMA said. It added that Pandemrix - produced by British pharmaceutical company GlaxoSmithKline - has been used since September 2009 to vaccinate at least 30.8 million Europeans against H1N1 influenza. |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by shampain socialist on Aug 28th, 2010 at 4:26pm
aren't vaccines delivered with mercury? Isn't that one of the most poisonous substances on the face of the earth? Oh, it's in our bodies now, that probably makes it ok, eh???
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by it_is_the_light on Aug 28th, 2010 at 5:06pm
yes and squalene,
have a guess what that does,or better yet, research for yourself namaste |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by gizmo_2655 on Aug 28th, 2010 at 5:09pm shampain socialist wrote on Aug 28th, 2010 at 4:26pm:
No, only SOME vaccines use 'mercury'...and even THAT mercury isn't the 'heavy metal' mercury.... |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by shampain socialist on Aug 28th, 2010 at 5:12pm
does it matter? mercury is extremely toxic, and it is given in some vaccines and was the standard dental filling up to around ten years ago.
I have asked my dentist about the safety of it, I don't get an equivocal answer apart from not to have the fillings removed all at once! Doesn't mercury in any form interfere with insulin reception eventually which is probably linked to diabetes? |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by gizmo_2655 on Aug 28th, 2010 at 5:27pm shampain socialist wrote on Aug 28th, 2010 at 5:12pm:
Yes it does matter.. Methylmercury is the metallic version of mecrury...which accumulates (with toxic effects) in biological systems.. Then there's Ethylmercury...which is the non-metallic version of mercury.... which doesn't accumulate in biological systems Vaccines use Ethylmercury, not Methylmercury...so there is NO toxic build up in humans (or any other biological organisms)... |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by shampain socialist on Aug 28th, 2010 at 5:32pm
thanks, giz.
But - even though there is no build up, how do you know it doesn't have other adverse affects just by being there e.g. damaging insulin receptors. |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by shampain socialist on Aug 28th, 2010 at 5:36pm
like this:
http://nourishedmagazine.com.au/blog/articles/uranium-mercury-and-diabetes |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by gizmo_2655 on Aug 28th, 2010 at 5:55pm shampain socialist wrote on Aug 28th, 2010 at 5:32pm:
Well in truth...you don't...however, it doesn't have anything like the adverse affects that methyl-mecrury does...which is what the 'alternative medicine' gurus are 'claiming'..... Let's face it though...even water can have an 'adverse affect'...if it's used wrong... |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by gizmo_2655 on Aug 28th, 2010 at 5:58pm
After all....EVERYTHING can have an 'adverse' affect....if you use it wrong....
Salt, sugar, protein, oxygen, water, fish oil..etc..... ANY food or chemical can be used incorrectly, with adverse affects... What you need to look at is the 'percentage chance' of bad affects.... |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by it_is_the_light on Aug 28th, 2010 at 6:09pm
Well in truth...you don't...however, it doesn't have anything like the adverse affects that methyl-mecrury does...which is what the 'alternative medicine' gurus are 'claiming'.....
Let's face it though...even water can have an 'adverse affect'...if it's used wrong... _________ yes trust the government and big pharma. they love you it is said i always observe gizmo sticking up for the government propaganda constantly wonder why that is? and the only thing i need to do gizmo is observe your ignorance with grace,namaste i observe your ignorance |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by it_is_the_light on Aug 28th, 2010 at 6:12pm
After all....EVERYTHING can have an 'adverse' affect....if you use it wrong....
Salt, sugar, protein, oxygen, water, fish oil..etc..... ANY food or chemical can be used incorrectly, with adverse affects... What you need to look at is the 'percentage chance' of bad affects.... _____________ just look at this, gizmo again distorting perceptions, all these you mention here gizmo are natural and non toxic squalene and mercury? research or continue to spread the disinformation it has no bareing on true reality and so it is that your 'slip' is showing;) namaste |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by gizmo_2655 on Aug 28th, 2010 at 6:15pm it_is_the_light wrote on Aug 28th, 2010 at 6:09pm:
No, wharfy... You have 'always observed gizmo sticking up for logic and intelligence' As opposed to YOU...sticking up for 'paranoia and stupidity'.... |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by it_is_the_light on Aug 28th, 2010 at 6:40pm
logic and intelligence hmm?
what logic and intelligence is the driving force with placing all the nano tech sqalene in the vaccines hmm gizmo? children in WA having convulsive fits to the tune it has been rolled back has it not? i am not here to convince you of a thing, i mearly validate reality,with grace enjoy |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by gizmo_2655 on Aug 28th, 2010 at 6:47pm it_is_the_light wrote on Aug 28th, 2010 at 6:40pm:
LOL wharfy..the simple fact is that the pharmaceutical companies are NOT part of the government.... No matter how you 'wash it' the Government....of which every country you choose...whether the US or Australia....is NOT any pharmaceutical company.... Neither are they Masons...or Zionists or any other group that your 'paranoid delusions' require them to be.... |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by it_is_the_light on Aug 29th, 2010 at 2:55am
LOL wharfy..the simple fact is that the pharmaceutical companies are NOT part of the government....
No matter how you 'wash it' the Government....of which every country you choose...whether the US or Australia....is NOT any pharmaceutical company.. ______________ oh yes? does the big pharmacuetical companies fund BOTH political parties gizmo? and all the other multinational corps..do they fund BOTH as well? |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by it_is_the_light on Aug 29th, 2010 at 2:56am
again gizmo,
your slip is showing here as it did so at yahoo. you appear to be a government sycophant and stooge. does this comfort you that again you have exposed your agenda? i observe your limp wristed logic once again with grace namaste |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by it_is_the_light on Aug 29th, 2010 at 2:40pm
http://www.infowars.com/conclusive-global-distribution-of-rockefeller-funded-anti-fertility-vaccine-coordinated-by-who/
Conclusive: Global Distribution of Rockefeller-Funded Anti-Fertility Vaccine Coordinated by WHO Jurriaan Maessen Infowars.com August 27, 2010 In addition to the recent PrisonPlanet-exclusive Rockefeller Foundation Developed Vaccines For “Mass-Scale” Fertility Reduction — which outlines the Rockefeller Foundation’s efforts in the 1960s funding research into so-called “anti-fertility vaccines”– another series of documents has surfaced, proving beyond any doubt that the UN Population Fund, World Bank and World Health Organization picked up on it, further developing it under responsibility of a “Task Force on Vaccines for Fertility Regulation”. Just four years after the Rockefeller Foundation launched massive funding-operations into anti-fertility vaccines, the Task Force was created under auspices of the World Health Organization, World Bank and UN Population Fund. Its mission, according to one of its members, to support: “basic and clinical research on the development of birth control vaccines directed against the gametes or the preimplantation embryo. These studies have involved the use of advanced procedures in peptide chemistry, hybridoma technology and molecular genetics as well as the evaluation of a number of novel approaches in general vaccinology. As a result of this international, collaborative effort, a prototype anti-HCG vaccine is now undergoing clinical testing, raising the prospect that a totally new family planning method may be available before the end of the current decade.” In regards to the scope of the Task Force’s jurisdiction, the Biotechnology and Development Monitor reported: “The Task Force acts as a global coordinating body for anti-fertility vaccine R&D in the various working groups and supports research on different approaches, such as anti-sperm and anti-ovum vaccines and vaccines designed to neutralize the biological functions of hCG. The Task Force has succeeded in developing a prototype of an anti-hCG-vaccine.” One of the Task Force members, P.D. Griffin, outlined the purpose and trajectory of these Fertility Regulating Vaccines. Griffin: “The Task Force has continued to coordinate its research activities with other vaccine development programmes within WHO and with other international and national programmes engaged in the development of fertility regulating vaccines.” Griffin also admitted to the fact that one of the purposes of the vaccines is the implementation in developing countries. Griffin: “If vaccines could be developed which could safely and effectively inhibit fertility, without producing unacceptable side effects, they would be an attractive addition to the present armamentarium of fertility regulating methods and would be likely to have a significant impact on family planning programmes.” Also, one of the advantages of the FRVs over “currently available methods of fertility regulation” the Task Force states, is the following (179): “low manufacturing cost and ease of delivery within existing health services.” Already in 1978, the WHO’s Task Force (then called Task Force on Immunological Methods for Fertility Regulation) underlined the usefulness of these vaccines in regards to the possibility of “large scale synthesis and manufacture” of the vaccine: “The potential advantages of an immunological approach to fertility regulation can be summarized as follows: (a) the possibility of infrequent administration, possibly by paramedical personnel; (b) the use of antigens or antigen fragments, which are not pharmacologically active; and (c) in the case of antigens of known chemical structure, there is the possibility of large-scale synthesis and manufacture of vaccine at relatively low cost.” |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by gizmo_2655 on Aug 29th, 2010 at 2:53pm it_is_the_light wrote on Aug 29th, 2010 at 2:55am:
And so what??? lots of companies AND individuals fund political parties... Do you mean that Fred the garbageman (who gives $20 per year to Labor Party) is actually one of the 'shadowy figures' who secretly run everything???? Is Fred the guy responsible for us having seperate bins for household garbage, green waste and recyclables.......so his collection run takes longer and he gets paid for more hours on his collection route?????? When you get right down to it....even YOU 'fund' the Government....does that make YOU a Freemason or a member of the NWO???..... |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by it_is_the_light on Aug 29th, 2010 at 2:55pm
covert intel pro much gizmo?
your slip is still showing, why not look at the facts delivered? oh thats right,your modus operandi of slander and character assasination does not compute related factual discernment and so it is namaste |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by gizmo_2655 on Aug 29th, 2010 at 3:08pm it_is_the_light wrote on Aug 29th, 2010 at 2:55pm:
Hehehehe....can't cope with the idea that YOU fund the Government too huh????? |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by it_is_the_light on Aug 29th, 2010 at 3:12pm
look at the facts
look at the eugenics vaccine program did you observe the facts i posted? again you have been exposed with projecting trivialities this is a top down approach for the new world order so by saying this you fund terrorism,it is limp wristed at best. care to argue the facts? |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by gizmo_2655 on Aug 29th, 2010 at 3:14pm it_is_the_light wrote on Aug 29th, 2010 at 3:12pm:
No I don't accept the 'eugenics vaccine program'...basically because it makes NO sense whatsoever.... Which isn't all that big a surprise...since you don't know what 'eugenics' means.... |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by it_is_the_light on Aug 29th, 2010 at 3:20pm
No I don't accept the 'eugenics vaccine program'...basically because it makes NO sense whatsoever....
__________ maybe not to you,you may not understand. the science tzar j p holdren wrote ecoscience here,try some facts if you can understand this is a eugenics program through vaccination and drugs in the food and water, http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/04/10/obamas-science-adviser-kicks-up-a-fuss-over-geoengineering/ forced abortions http://zombietime.com/john_holdren/ John Holdren, Obama's Science Czar, says: Forced abortions and mass sterilization needed to save the planet Book he authored in 1977 advocates for extreme totalitarian measures to control the population Forced abortions. Mass sterilization. A "Planetary Regime" with the power of life and death over American citizens. The tyrannical fantasies of a madman? Or merely the opinions of the person now in control of science policy in the United States? Or both? These ideas (among many other equally horrifying recommendations) were put forth by John Holdren, whom Barack Obama has recently appointed Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, Assistant to the President for Science and Technology, and Co-Chair of the President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology -- informally known as the United States' Science Czar. In a book Holdren co-authored in 1977, the man now firmly in control of science policy in this country wrote that: • Women could be forced to abort their pregnancies, whether they wanted to or not; • The population at large could be sterilized by infertility drugs intentionally put into the nation's drinking water or in food; • Single mothers and teen mothers should have their babies seized from them against their will and given away to other couples to raise; • People who "contribute to social deterioration" (i.e. undesirables) "can be required by law to exercise reproductive responsibility" -- in other words, be compelled to have abortions or be sterilized. • A transnational "Planetary Regime" should assume control of the global economy and also dictate the most intimate details of Americans' lives -- using an armed international police force. Impossible, you say? That must be an exaggeration or a hoax. No one in their right mind would say such things. Well, I hate to break the news to you, but it is no hoax, no exaggeration. John Holdren really did say those things, and this report contains the proof. Below you will find photographs, scans, and transcriptions of pages in the book Ecoscience, co-authored in 1977 by John Holdren and his close colleagues Paul Ehrlich and Anne Ehrlich. The scans and photos are provided to supply conclusive evidence that the words attributed to Holdren are unaltered and accurately transcribed. [UPDATE: Make sure to read the new statements issued by the White House and by John Holdren's office in response to the controversy raised by this essay -- you can see them below following the Ecoscience excerpts, or you can jump directly to the statements by clicking here.] obama science tzar |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by it_is_the_light on Aug 29th, 2010 at 3:23pm
http://www.infowars.com/gates-foundation-invests-in-monsanto/
Gates Foundation Invests in Monsanto Community Alliance for Global Justice August 27, 2010 Farmers and civil society organizations around the world are outraged by the recent discovery of further connections between the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and agribusiness titan Monsanto. Last week, a financial website published the Gates Foundation’s investment portfolio, including 500,000 shares of Monsanto stock with an estimated worth of $23.1 million purchased in the second quarter of 2010 (see the filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission). This marks a substantial increase from its previous holdings, valued at just over $360,000 (see the Foundation’s 2008 990 Form). “The Foundation’s direct investment in Monsanto is problematic on two primary levels,” said Dr. Phil Bereano, University of Washington Professor Emeritus and recognized expert on genetic engineering. “First, Monsanto has a history of blatant disregard for the interests and well-being of small farmers around the world, as well as an appalling environmental track record. The strong connections to Monsanto cast serious doubt on the Foundation’s heavy funding of agricultural development in Africa and purported goal of alleviating poverty and hunger among small-scale farmers. Second, this investment represents an enormous conflict of interests.” Monsanto has already negatively impacted agriculture in African countries. For example, in South Africa in 2009, Monsanto’s genetically modified maize failed to produce kernels and hundreds of farmers were devastated. According to Mariam Mayet, environmental attorney and director of the Africa Centre for Biosafety in Johannesburg, some farmers suffered up to an 80% crop failure. While Monsanto compensated the large-scale farmers to whom it directly sold the faulty product, it gave nothing to the small-scale farmers to whom it had handed out free sachets of seeds. “When the economic power of Gates is coupled with the irresponsibility of Monsanto, the outlook for African smallholders is not very promising,” said Mayet. Monsanto’s aggressive patenting practices have also monopolized control over seed in ways that deny farmers control over their own harvest, going so far as to sue—and bankrupt—farmers for “patent infringement.” |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by it_is_the_light on Aug 29th, 2010 at 3:29pm
For example, in South Africa in 2009, Monsanto’s genetically modified maize failed to produce kernels and hundreds of farmers were devastated. According to Mariam Mayet, environmental attorney and director of the Africa Centre for Biosafety in Johannesburg, some farmers suffered up to an 80% crop failure.
__________ sounds like exactely what gates is into tax free billionaire only clubs that project they are funding "charities"....its a tax free club and they earn interest off the non taxable deposits.wherebeing their servants accountants lawyers and staff are paid for by the taxpayer,yes taxable deductions for donations to "charity" such a lie. you may not understand again gizmo |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by gizmo_2655 on Aug 29th, 2010 at 3:36pm
You see wharfy...you are using the 'Alex Jones, I'm a nutjob conspiracy theorist' version of 'Eugenics'...
Not the actually dictionary version of Eugenics.... |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by gizmo_2655 on Aug 29th, 2010 at 4:16pm
What Alex Jones talks about is 'mind control through chemicals'..
But what Eugenics means is 'improving the species through selective breeding and/or genetic manipulation'... Totally different intended results....and methods.. |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by it_is_the_light on Aug 29th, 2010 at 4:23pm
alex jones is reporting on j p holdren
research j p holdrens ecoscience or get a summery from whatever scource you would prefer,lets see what you come up with. you have not confronted the use of modern vaccines as a eugenics tool. sterilization. |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by gizmo_2655 on Aug 29th, 2010 at 4:29pm it_is_the_light wrote on Aug 29th, 2010 at 4:23pm:
Yes, but what J.P Holdren is talking about is NOT Eugenics... |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by it_is_the_light on Aug 29th, 2010 at 4:31pm
What Alex Jones talks about is 'mind control through chemicals'..
But what Eugenics means is 'improving the species through selective breeding and/or genetic manipulation'... Totally different intended results....and methods.. ___________ they are the same,a means to an end. the ultimate goal is the eugenics practice master race,to eradicate all other 'bloodlines' or race. gods chosen people the jews,this is not the case..we all are gods people..do you deny this? if you agree you are against eugenics |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by it_is_the_light on Aug 29th, 2010 at 4:35pm
i will leave you to your inanity,
you obviousely have not read ecoscience...or even a summery so i will not discuss any further until you research the subject,i mean,whats the point? you are ignorant on the subject. to just inanely say,"oh hes not talking about eugenics" is utter hilarity and non sensicle,for that is exacley what he is advocating and is the very reason he is obamas' science tzar. your deliberate semantical freemasonic illusionary response and disinformationalistical assumptions deliberate or otherwise are forgiven unconditionally you are simply exposed. namaste |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by gizmo_2655 on Aug 29th, 2010 at 4:42pm it_is_the_light wrote on Aug 29th, 2010 at 4:31pm:
How can you even make that statement??? Eugenics is intended to increase IQ, Strength, Stamina, disease resistence, longevity etc...ALL these things make us less susceptible to the whole 'master race' idea... The idea of 'mind control by chemicals' is intended to make humans MORE susceptible to control by the 'master race'.... |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by it_is_the_light on Aug 29th, 2010 at 4:48pm
The idea of 'mind control by chemicals' is intended to make humans MORE susceptible to control by the 'master race'....
____________ yes,that is the idea. make the masses complicent in the act of servitute. this prison planet yet lo..... the time is very close now a VERY cataclysmic event/events a chain reaction is accelerating to critical mass. so be it. the eugenics program is to strengthen dna disease resistance and so forth yes..only for the elite however this is in the wane as LIGHT and the crystaline energies manifest and make these vaccines flacid in their execution. you will not find strength in any vaccine given to you only disease and poison and toxins do you deny this? and again, you still have proven your ignorance concerning j p holdren and his eugenics program namaste |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by it_is_the_light on Aug 29th, 2010 at 4:50pm
you are forgiven unconditionally from the
higher dimensions i again ascend into the void/the all that is and leave you in a state of grace namaste solid_copper_pyramids.jpg (184 KB | 33
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by helian on Aug 29th, 2010 at 5:01pm |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by Imperium on Aug 29th, 2010 at 5:07pm Quote:
Vaccination is not a eugenic practice. Eugenics is the self-direction of human evolution; the practice of attempting to increase the frequency of desirable genetically based attributes through practices (either draconian or voluntary) that encourage the carriers of those traits to procreate more than those that are bereft of them. |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by Imperium on Aug 29th, 2010 at 5:08pm NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 29th, 2010 at 5:01pm:
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by it_is_the_light on Aug 29th, 2010 at 5:11pm
Vaccination is not a eugenic practice.
_________ incorrect. it is a tool of the eugenics program. if you cannot comprehend that your ignorance is shared with gizmo to strengthen a certain groups DNA and chances of supreme ancestry/lineage is it not the case that if you weaken your advisary do you not strengthen your own kind? check mate namaste |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by Imperium on Aug 29th, 2010 at 5:12pm
Trust me; if it were a eugenics practice and you were vaccinated in the past, you would be sterile.
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by it_is_the_light on Aug 29th, 2010 at 5:14pm
the practice of attempting to increase the frequency of desirable genetically based attributes through practices (either draconian or voluntary)
__________ i observe you useing the term draconian i doubt you know its origins |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by it_is_the_light on Aug 29th, 2010 at 5:15pm
Trust me; if it were a eugenics practice and you were vaccinated in the past, you would be sterile.
__________ excuse me, i do not trust ignorance no offence,i observe your divinity namaste |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by Imperium on Aug 29th, 2010 at 5:17pm it_is_the_light wrote on Aug 29th, 2010 at 5:14pm:
It means rule or control by government with great harshness. Eugenic practices can be exactly that. |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by it_is_the_light on Aug 29th, 2010 at 5:22pm
It means rule or control by government with great harshness.
____________ i will tell you, this term is from another planet the planet draco this is well documented research this term. not the implanted version you repeat if you have the care, http://www.crystalinks.com/reptilians.html Description: Typically, Reptilians are described as 6 to 8 feet tall, bipedal, having scaly green skin, have a bad odor, have large eyes usually yellow or gold with a vertical pupil. They are sometimes linked to myths about ancient astronauts who allegedly came to Earth to seed the planet and promised to return one day. No one is coming back. Theories involving Reptilian aliens are metaphoric in content, much like other creational myths throughout the programs of reality, weaving together clues to help one figure out humanity's journey in linear time. Reptilian humanoids are a proposed race of intelligent, supernatural, or highly developed reptile-like humanoids in mythology, popular fiction, pseudoscientific theories and in the writings of New Age conspiracists. They appear in some conspiracy theories, most notably those of Riley Martin, John Rhodes, David Icke, and in science fiction. Reptoids, a conjoined word defining Reptilian-Humanoid beings, is the most popular name used to describe these cryptid beings, although some authors also refer to them as dinosauroids, lizardfolk or lizardmen. Other names include Draconians, Saurians and Sauroids. They are often described as being green or gold color. Similar to the other cryptids, no one has produced proof of the existence of reptilian humanoids, and allegations of their existence can at best be referred to as cryptozoology or pseudoscience. Mythological references to reptilian humanoids Several ancient peoples all over the world have described reptilian beings, and some have described reptilian humanoids. Common in numerous mythologies are tales of reptilian creatures (usually not humanoid) who are often, but not always, hostile to human beings. Also rather common are the myths of "Serpents of Wisdom" who enlightened humanity before the dawn of civilization. Some individuals, doubting claims of reptilian humanoid sightings or contacts, suggest that the mythological preeminence of reptilian forms could stem from a genetic memory of instincts developed millions of years ago, when mammals were the prey of the reptiles which dominated the Earth. Dreams of reptiles are often interpreted as symbolizing "ancient drives" and "instinctive responses". The Americas The Toltec Mayan god Gucumatz was described as a "serpent of wisdom" who enlightened humankind. His Aztec counterpart was named Quetzalcoatl. In the Yucatan, he is called Kukulcan. The Hopi refer to a race of reptoids called the Sheti, or "Snake-Brothers", who live underground. The Cherokee and other Native American peoples also refer to reptoid races. In pre-Columbian mythology from Colombia, Bachue (the primordial woman) transformed into a big snake. She is also sometimes called the "Celestial Snake" (Serpiente Celestial). Many users of the drug Dimethyltryptamine (the active ingredient in many South American shamanic potions such as ayahuasca) have seen reptilian humanoids or reptilian disincarnate entities and aliens while hallucinating (Strassman 2000). Europe Cecrops I, the legendary first King of Athens was said to have been half man, half snake. The ancient Titans and Gigantes were sometimes depicted as winged man-like beings with serpents instead of legs, for example on a fresco on a temple in Pergamum. In these images from Pergamum, some of which depict the gigantomachy, one sees the giant Klyteios with huge serpents in place of legs. Boreas (Aquilon to the Romans) was the Greek god of the cold north wind, described by Pausanias as a winged man with serpents for legs. The European dragon dates back to ancient depictions on various archaeological artifacts. An early instance in literature was the dragon that guarded the Golden Fleece in the Voyage of the Argonauts. In the Middle Ages, tales of dragons seem to have become even more common. The dragon in Europe, as a rule, was not conceived as having a humanoid form, and would not qualify as an instance of a reptilian humanoid unless explicitly described as humanoid. India In Indian scriptures and legends the Naga are reptilian beings said to live underground and interact with human beings on the surface. Some are alleged to turn human. In some versions, these beings were said to have once lived on a continent in the Indian Ocean that sank beneath the waves. Indian texts also refer to a reptilian race called the "Sarpa. The Syrictae of India were a tribe of men with snake-like nostrils in place of noses and bandy serpentine legs. East Asia The Chinese, Korean and Japanese speak throughout their history of Lóng (Yong in Korean, Ryu in Japanese) or dragons, conceived of in both physical and non-physical forms, but rarely depicted in humanoid form, though they may assume a non-reptilian human form. The Japanese have tales of Kappa, a basically reptilian humanoid. ______________ eugenics through nano tech vaccines carry on regardless.. |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by Equitist on Aug 29th, 2010 at 5:27pm aikmann4 wrote on Aug 29th, 2010 at 5:12pm:
Yer, we would be sterile - but we wouldn't necessarily know until we couldn't conceive after at least a couple of years of actively trying... Epidemiology is such that: if only infants had been vaccinated in a Western country, the general public would not start to notice for 15-20 years and the proof wouldn't emerge for close to a whole generation - not least because about 1/3 of the population aren't ever planning to breed... Let's face it, the cancer effects of smoking and asbestos remained unproven for a couple of decades... So, at first, the drop in teenage pregnancies would be regarded as a positive and put down to social factors - including sex education and availability of contraception... It probably wouldn't be regarded as a broad reproductive issue that warranted investigation, until women in their mid-late 20's were not falling pregnant despite actively trying to conceive... For obvious reasons, the effects would probably become apparent a little sooner in 3rd world countries - but the statistical analysis would still take time to flow through... In practice, therefore, it is possible that the whole thing could be covered up for a whole generation - by which time, close to a whole generation could have been affected... It's seriously scary to think about it - and it could definitely be done! As to whether is it currently going on, I have no idea - but I wouldn't be surprised if there were enough nutjobs out there, who have the inclination and/or resources to interfere with humanity in this way... |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by it_is_the_light on Aug 29th, 2010 at 7:17pm
http://www.naturalnews.com/027019_H1N1_pregnant_women_mercury.html
(NaturalNews) It's getting crazy out there. New revelations about the novel H1N1 vaccine are raising more questions than ever about its safety while there's a new drive to push shots of the stuff as quickly as possible on perfectly healthy pregnant women. That means the most vulnerable of all -- unborn children -- will be exposed to a little-tested vaccine. According to a CDC authored article just published in the British journal Lancet, "Once available, vaccination will be an essential component of the public health response to this influenza, and US guidelines place pregnant women in a high-priority group for receipt of pandemic influenza vaccine." Note the keys words in the statement: "once available". The words you might expect, "once thoroughly tested for safety," are nowhere to be found. According to an article just published in the Denver Post, Dr. Keiji Fukuda, the World Health Organization's (WHO) own flu chief, has warned about the potential dangers of untested vaccines (although he has stopped short of criticizing Europe's full-steam-ahead approach of promoting H!NI vaccinations). To top it off, now comes word out of the FDA's Vaccine and Related Biologic Products Advisory Committee (VRBPAC) meeting held on July 23rd that the H1N1 vaccine is going to be laced with the mercury containing preservative thimerosal. That's right, the same thimerosal that was banned in influenza vaccines in California and several other states starting in 2004. The reason? The mercury-laden toxin has been linked to a number of health concerns -- including worries thimerosal caused or contributed to the current autism epidemic. Is this an absolute scientific fact? No, the jury is still out on the controversy but, bottom line, thimerosal contains mercury. Even more importantly, the targeting of pregnant women seems unwise. In fact, the Environmental Protection Agency EPA) web site states that "factors that determine how severe the health effects are from mercury exposure include... the age of the person exposed (the fetus is the most susceptible)." Other worrisome tidbits of information about the vaccine have been revealed in recent days. A Lancet editorial suggests that any U.S. plan to rely on swine flu vaccines without ingredients to stretch the supply would reduce the number of vaccination shots available other countries. The solution for vaccine manufacturers, allowing them to stretch the vaccine to go further, could be the addition of ingredients called adjuvants. According to breaking news about the use of adjuvants in the H1N1 vaccine, Bloomberg is reporting these compounds have never been approved for flu vaccines in the U.S. and some studies have shown they cause immune disorders in mice. However, back on July 7, in a not-widely-reported announcement, WHO recommended that adjuvants be used to boost production quantity of vaccines available world-wide. The Age of Autism, a daily web newspaper covering the autism epidemic, has raised some important points about these adjuvants. The web site points out that the VRBPAC was not furnished with information on the safety of adjuvants in the new flu vaccine. "Of concern is that the proposed adjuvants (AS03 and MF59) are squalene (oil) based and studies suggest that exposure to squalene is associated with production of auto-antibodies and auto-immune disease," the web site states. What's more, some veterans have claimed that squalene adjuvant in vaccines was responsible for Gulf War Syndrome. |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by it_is_the_light on Aug 29th, 2010 at 7:22pm
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/119668
Experimental Swine Flu Vaccines Contain a Smorgasbord of Potentially Deadly Additives Bill LindnerSeptember 18, 2009 Trials are beginning on Novartis' H1N1 vaccine and Novartis is recommending that children participating in the trial receive two doses of the experimental vaccine that reportedly contains ingredients found in spermicides, cleaners, and cosmetics as well as thimerosal and squalene (MF-59) -- raising concerns because the only safety checks for the children participating in the tests are a few blood draws and follow-up phone calls but no neurological testing, and adverse reactions to the Swine Flu vaccines being tested are being purposely omitted by researchers. Despite the fact that the Government is giving the Pharmaceutical companies total impunity from any and all damages the populations receive as a result of their experimental cocktail, the Center for Disease Control (CDC) continues insisting that the new vaccine will be safe and effective. Experts -- there's that oft-deceptive word again -- are saying we can trust the experimental vaccine because the technology used to create it is time tested. As you'll see below, these so-called 'experts' are intentionally deceiving the public once again. The answer to the question I asked a couple of months ago -- Swine Flu outbreak or bioterrorism and intent to commit mass murder? -- is becoming increasingly clear. As the information below reveals, these 'experts' from various government agencies are once again purposely cherry picking and ignoring information with the intention of deceiving, knowing full well that many people could die while trying to push their treachery off as the truth. The government has had a major aversion to the truth for years. Participants of the study being conducted on children were not allowed to know the exact ingredients of the experimental vaccine on the grounds that it was a study and that the information is privileged. However, there are some clues that can be obtained from the parental consent form. Squalene Linked to Gulf War Syndrome and ALS Page two of the form informs you that MF-59 is an adjuvant that is used in influenza vaccines licensed for adults and/or the elderly in many countries, but not in the United States. So, if children are being used as guinea pigs in the study, why is vaccine that is licensed for adults and/or the elderly going to be used on newborns, children and pregnant women? MF-59 (Squalene) is listed by the U.S. National Library of Medicine as being too dangerous for human use. Squalene is not licensed for use in the U.S. The anthrax vaccine used on Gulf War veterans in the early 1990's was laced with Squalene. It is known to have had disastrous consequences, which include Gulf War Syndrome and ALS. Information on the toxicity and adverse effects of Squalene are available from the National Library of Medicine. In 2006, Dr. Sherri Tenpenny wrote an article noting the dangers of Squalene. Squalene is manufactured naturally in the liver as a precursor for cholesterol. Ingested Squalene is different from injected Squalene. When Squalene is injected, it can lead to self-destructive immune responses such as autoimmune arthritis and lupus. Squalene in MF-59 can cross react with the body's Squalene on the surface of human cells. Destruction of the body's own Squalene can lead to the diseases mentioned above and other central nervous system diseases. Novartis has not performed testing for the carcinogenicity of MF-59 adjuvant or any of their other preventive vaccines and has no plans to. Further down the parental consent form -- while not explicitly mentioned as ingredients -- it is noted that if your child had an allergic reaction in the past to neomycin or polymyxin, sodium ethylmercurothiosalicylate or thimerosal (mercury containing compounds often used as preservatives in vaccines), beta propriolactone or nonoxynol 9 (commonly used in cleaners, cosmetics and spermicides) you must tell the medical staff. People with egg allergies should avoid the Swine Flu vaccine. Thimerosal is Known to Cause Harm in Children What exactly are the vaccines comprised of? It's not revealed by those conducting the study, but the list of products producing allergic reactions is very revealing. Cleaners, cosmetics, spermicides, Squalene and Thimerosal reveals that these vaccines aren't safe at all. Thimerosal is a neurological toxin -- that the Government and the Pharmaceutical companies are aware of but have intentionally kept covered up -- that is known to cause harm in children. It has been linked to autism because of its mercury content. The effects of nonoxynol are not yet known. People with weakened or no immue system are susceptible to getting the flu from the vaccine. A lengthy list of some of the possible risks and side effects, more information about neurological testing and the neurological damage caused by many vaccines can be found in this article from VacTRUTH. There are no measures in place to understand what the child's immune response would be. No neurological measurements are taken. But, there's a reason for that: as long as no neurological measurements are taken, according to Dr. Andrew Moulden, the Pharmaceutical industry can say the vaccine is safe. Some researchers are denying that a study participant's adverse reactions were caused by the Swine Flu vaccine. |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by Jasignature on Aug 30th, 2010 at 12:45am
By the looks of it It_is_the_Light
gets his Medical advice from 2 nations that are more apt at winning wars. ::) |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by it_is_the_light on Sep 5th, 2010 at 7:22am
http://www.infowars.com/india-halts-hpv-vaccine-trial-after-six-girls-die-u-s-does-nothing-after-67-deaths/
India halts HPV vaccine trial after six girls die; U.S. does nothing after 67 deaths India halts HPV vaccine trial after six girls die, US does nothing in response to 67 deaths and counting Mike Adams Natural News Thursday, September 2, 2010 (NaturalNews) As someone with a good deal of education in scientific thinking and the scientific method, I have put considerable effort into attempting to find any real scientific evidence backing the widespread use of influenza vaccines (flu season shots). Before learning about nutrition and holistic health, I was a computer software entrepreneur, and I have a considerable scientific background in areas such as astronomy, physics, human physiology, microbiology, genetics, anthropology and human psychology. One of my most-admired thought leaders is, in fact, the late physicist Richard Feynman. I don’t speak from a “scientific” point of view on NaturalNews very often because it’s often a dry, boring presentation style. But I do know the difference between real science and junk science, and I find examples of junk science in both the “scientific” side of things as well as the “alternative” side of things. For example, so-called “psychic surgery,” as least in the way it has been popularized, is nothing more than clever sleight-of-hand where the surgeon palms some chicken gizzards and then pretends to pull diseased organs out of the abdominal cavity of some patient. The demonstrations I’ve seen on film are obvious quackery. Similarly, flu season vaccines are mainstream medicine’s version of psychic surgery: It’s all just “medical sleight of hand” based on nothing more than clever distractions and the obfuscation of scientific facts. Flu season shots, you see, simply don’t work on 99 out of 100 people (and that’s being generous to the vaccine industry, as you’ll see below). A year ago, I offered a $10,000 reward to any person who could find scientific proof that H1N1 vaccines were safe and effective (http://www.naturalnews.com/027985_H…). No one even made a claim to collect that reward because no such evidence exists. Conventional medicine, they say, is really “Evidence-Based Medicine” (EBM). That is, everything promoted by conventional medicine is supposed to be based on “rigorous scientific scrutiny.” It’s all supposed to be statistically validated and proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that it works as advertised. And in the case of flu vaccines, they are advertised as providing some sort of absolute protection against influenza. “Don’t miss work this flu season. Get a flu shot!” The idea, of course, is that getting a flu shot offers 100% protection from the flu. If you get a shot, they say, you won’t miss work from sickness. This implication is wildly inaccurate. In fact, it’s just flat-out false. As you’ll see below, it’s false advertising wrapped around junk science. You see, there was never an independent, randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled study proving either the safety or effectiveness of the H1N1 swine flu vaccines that were heavily pushed last year (and are in fact in this year’s flu shot cocktail). No such study has ever been done. As a result, there is no rigorous scientific basis from which to sell such vaccines in the first place. To try to excuse this, vaccine hucksters claim that it would be “unethical” to conduct a placebo-controlled study of such vaccines because they work so well that to deny the placebo group the actual vaccine would be harmful to them. Everybody benefits from the influenza vaccine, they insist, so the mere act of conducting a scientifically-controlled test is unethical. Do you smell some quackery at work yet? This is precisely the kind of pseudoscientific gobbledygook you might hear from some mad Russian scientist who claims to have “magic water” but you can’t test the magic water because the mere presence of measurement instruments nullifies the magical properties of the water. Having A Supply Of Healthy Foods That Last Just Makes Sense (AD) Similarly, vaccine pushers often insist it’s unethical to test whether their vaccines really work. You just have to “take it on faith” that vaccines are universally good for everybody. Yep, I used the word “faith.” That is essentially what the so-called scientific community is invoking here with the vaccine issue: Just BELIEVE they work, everybody! Who needs scientific evidence when we’ve got FAITH in vaccines? Forget about evidence-based medicine. Forget about any rational cost-benefit analysis. Forget about the risk-to-benefit ratio calculations that should be part of any rational decision making about vaccines. No, the vaccine industry (and its apologist bloggers) already know that vaccines are universally good for you, therefore no such rigorous scientific assessment is even required! The Scientific Method, in other words, doesn’t really apply to the things they already believe in. Faith can override reason in the “scientific” community, if you can believe that! What’s next, are they going to claim vaccines work because some sort of “vaccine God” makes them work? Here, take your vaccine shot. And don’t forget to pray to the Vaccine God because that’s how these things really work. Vaccine voodoo, in other words. (Hey, that would have been a great title for the vaccine song, come to think of it…) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP_kei648oI |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by gizmo_2655 on Sep 5th, 2010 at 9:17am It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Aug 30th, 2010 at 12:45am:
I think he gets his medical advice from Doctor Bombay..... |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by it_is_the_light on Sep 5th, 2010 at 2:44pm
A year ago, I offered a $10,000 reward to any person who could find scientific proof that H1N1 vaccines were safe and effective (http://www.naturalnews.com/027985_H…). No one even made a claim to collect that reward because no such evidence exists.
_______________ go get your 10 grand gizmo, if you can prove your distorted non factual view the money is up for grabs namaste ;) |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by gizmo_2655 on Sep 5th, 2010 at 3:04pm it_is_the_light wrote on Sep 5th, 2010 at 2:44pm:
Read back a couple of pages light.. It's was 'safe' offer....dishonest, but safe... It's like asking for scientific 'proof' of "How long is a piece of string"... No medicine, either pharmaceutical OR natural is 100% 'safe'.... For example....the 'natural' replacement for 'flu vaccines is garlic and Echinacea.......which can be lethal to some who is allergic to garlic. If 1 person in 1 million (or 10 million, or 100 million)has an adverse reaction to a vaccine.....that vaccine is classified as effective and safe....to everyone but the natural medicine nutters oc course.... |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by it_is_the_light on Sep 5th, 2010 at 3:13pm
It's like asking for scientific 'proof' of "How long is a piece of string"...
___________ oh no dear one, do not attempt to distort reality,should be such a simple thing for you to do now,and 10 grand for your troubles. show the benefits of vaccines,this is,after all the vaccine thread namaste;) solid_copper_pyramids_003.jpg (184 KB | 49
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by gizmo_2655 on Sep 5th, 2010 at 3:35pm it_is_the_light wrote on Sep 5th, 2010 at 3:13pm:
Ok, I will then... 1) Influenza Pandemic 1918 20 to 100 million (estimated) dead....Vaccinations started in 1945.....current yearly death toll....(in the US) 41,000..world wide.. 250,000-500,000 ( which includes peopel who are NOT vaccinated) 2)Poliomyelitis...before Salk's vaccine 90%-95%of children with the disease developed some form symptoms (like 1 short leg, dragging 1 foot etc.) the vaccine provides 99% immunity to the disease.. That good enough, or should I bother to mention pennicillin???? |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by it_is_the_light on Sep 15th, 2010 at 6:33am
gizmo thinks this is great;)
http://www.infowars.com/media-hype-of-new-drug-resistant-superbugs/ Media Hype of New Drug-Resistant Superbugs Fox News September 14, 2010 An infectious-disease nightmare is unfolding: Bacteria that have been made resistant to nearly all antibiotics by an alarming new gene have sickened people in three states and are popping up all over the world, health officials reported Monday. The U.S. cases and two others in Canada all involve people who had recently received medical care in India, where the problem is widespread. A British medical journal revealed the risk last month in an article describing dozens of cases in Britain in people who had gone to India for medical procedures. How many deaths the gene may have caused is unknown; there is no central tracking of such cases. So far, the gene has mostly been found in bacteria that cause gut or urinary infections. Scientists have long feared this — a very adaptable gene that hitches onto many types of common germs and confers broad drug resistance, creating dangerous “superbugs.” Read Entire Article http://www.foxnews.com/health/2010/09/14/update-new-drug-resistant-superbugs-states/ "It's a great concern," because drug resistance has been rising and few new antibiotics are in development, said Dr. M. Lindsay Grayson, director of infectious diseases at the University of Melbourne in Australia. "It's just a matter of time" until the gene spreads more widely person-to-person, he said. Grayson heads an American Society for Microbiology conference in Boston, which was buzzing with reports of the gene, called NDM-1 and named for New Delhi. The U.S. cases occurred this year in people from California, Massachusetts and Illinois, said Brandi Limbago, a lab chief at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Three types of bacteria were involved, and three different mechanisms let the gene become part of them. "We want physicians to look for it," especially in patients who have traveled recently to India or Pakistan, she said. What can people do? Don't add to the drug resistance problem, experts say. Don't pressure your doctors for antibiotics if they say they aren't needed, use the ones you are given properly, and try to avoid infections by washing your hands. The gene is carried by bacteria that can spread hand-to-mouth, which makes good hygiene very important. It's also why health officials are so concerned about where the threat is coming from, said Dr. Patrice Nordmann, a microbiology professor at South-Paris Medical School. India is an overpopulated country that overuses antibiotics and has widespread diarrheal disease and many people without clean water. "The ingredients are there" for widespread transmission, he said. "It's going to spread by plane all over the world." The U.S. patients were not related. The California woman needed hospital care after being in a car accident in India. The Illinois man had pre-existing medical problems and a urinary catheter, and is thought to have contracted an infection with the gene while traveling in India. The case from Massachusetts involved a woman from India who had surgery and chemotherapy for cancer there and then traveled to the U.S. Lab tests showed their germs were not killed by the types of drugs normally used to treat drug-resistant infections, including "the last-resort class of antibiotics that physicians go to," Limbago said. She did not know how the three patients were treated, but all survived. Doctors have tried treating some of these cases with combinations of antibiotics, hoping that will be more effective than individual ones are. Some have resorted to using polymyxins — antibiotics used in the 1950s and '60s that were unpopular because they can harm the kidneys. The two Canadian cases were treated with a combination of antibiotics, said Dr. Johann Pitout of the University of Calgary in Alberta, Canada. One case was in Alberta, the other in British Columbia. Both patients had medical emergencies while traveling in India. They developed urinary infections that were discovered to have the resistance gene once they returned home to Canada, Pitout said. The CDC advises any hospitals that find such cases to put the patient in medical isolation, check the patient's close contacts for possible infection, and look for more infections in the hospital. Any case "should raise an alarm," Limbago said. |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by it_is_the_light on Sep 15th, 2010 at 6:43am
http://www.emaxhealth.com/1275/vaccine-autism-court-award-15m-poling-family
On the heels of a federal appeals court ruling that denied an association between autism and vaccines, the family of nine-year-old Hannah Poling will receive more than $1.5 million to provide for her care for the rest of her life, to compensate for lost earnings, and for pain and suffering for the first year. Hannah developed autism after receiving vaccinations for nine diseases during one visit to her doctor. Hannah’s family will also receive more than $500,000 per year to cover their daughter’s care. Although this case was settled before trial by the government in 2007, the compensation was not agreed upon until now. Hannah Poling and Mitochondrial Disorder Hannah was vaccinated against measles, mumps, rubella, polio, varicella, diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus, and Haemophilus inflluenzae during one doctor’s visit at age 18 months. At that time, thimerosal (a mercury-containing preservative), which some experts say may cause or contribute to autism, was still being used in children’s vaccines. Soon after receiving the vaccines, Hannah stopped eating, developed high fevers, began having screaming fits, and showed signs of autism. Her parents then filed an autism claim in federal vaccine court. A factor that compounds this situation is the fact that Hannah has a mitochondrial disorder, in which her basic cell metabolism dysfunctions. Symptoms of this disorder can range from muscle weakness to diabetes, developmental delays, cardiac or liver disease, swallowing problems, poor growth, muscle pain, loss of motor control, and susceptibility to infection. According to a Time magazine article from 2008, “There are no scientific studies documenting that childhood vaccinations cause mitochondrial diseases or worsen mitochondrial disease symptoms,” as stated by the United Mitochondrial Disease Foundation. Yet this court decision acknowledges Hannah’s injuries and that the vaccines aggravated an unknown mitochondrial disorder that did not “cause” her autism, but “resulted” in it. Approximately 1,000 to 4,000 children are born with a mitochondrial disease each year in the United States. There are dozens of different types of mitochondrial disease, including Alpers disease, Barth syndrome, carnitine deficiency, and Pearson syndrome. These diseases mainly affect children, but adults can develop these diseases as well. In 2008, the United Mitochondrial Disease Foundation released a statement in response to the Poling case, noting that “There are no scientific studies documenting that childhood vaccinations cause mitochondrial diseases or worsen mitochondrial disease symptoms.” The court in this case decided that Hannah’s underlying disease increased her risk of injury from the vaccinations. While Hannah Poling’s family will receive more than $1.5 million compensation for their daughter’s care, it cannot reverse the damage that has been done. This case raises many questions, one of which is how many other Hannahs are out there. One thing we do know is that nearly 5,000 families of children with autism have filed claims for compensation through the federal government’s Vaccine Injury Compensation Program. SOURCES: CBS News, Sept. 13, 2010 Time magazine, March 10, 2008 United Mitochondrial Disorder Association http://www.youtube.com/user/TheAlexJonesChannel#p/a/u/0/snPExUJl6po here, at 08:40 check out what bill gates has to say, this top level freemason and eugenicist |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by it_is_the_light on Sep 25th, 2010 at 6:45am
http://www.infowars.com/canadians-to-be-vaccinated-with-live-h1n1-virus-with-msg-for-the-201011-flu-season/
Canadians To Be Vaccinated With Live H1N1 Virus with MSG For The 2010/11 Flu Season Dave Mihalovic Prevent Disease September 23, 2010 The Public Health Agency of Canada has once again given their seal of approval for the injection of a dangerous cocktail of toxic chemicals they call a trivalent vaccine. The 2010/11 recipients of AstraZeneca’s FLUMIST will be exposed to several strains of live viruses including H1N1 and H3N2. The vaccine also contains MSG and other known neurotoxins and immunotoxins. Similar to last year’s Arepanrix Vaccine, FLUMIST was approved without evaluating its safety and effectiveness on a single Canadian. The vaccines are especially being promoted for children since the nasal spray vaccine can be marketed as less invasive due its intranasal delivery that does not require needles. Ontario’s chief medical officer of health said a non-injectable vaccine is an “attractive option.” The product has been on the U.S. market for the last seven years. AstraZeneca Canada is currently ensuring that all Canadian pharmacies are making preparations to stock the vaccine this fall. The influenza vaccine will be one of several vaccines to be offered on the Canadian market. On August 26, 2010, Health Canada issued a Notice of Decision to AstraZeneca Canada for the FLUMIST vaccine. The FLUMIST Trivalent vaccine product information: Three Live Viruses: - Influenza Virus Type A (H1N1); - Influenza Virus Type A (H3N2); and - Influenza Virus Type B Route of Administration: Intranasal Spray Dosage Strength: 0.2 mL Clinically Relevant Nonmedicinal Ingredients - Gelatin hydrolysate (porcine Type A) - sucrose - arginine - gentamicin Additional Toxic Ingredients: - Monobasic potassium phosphate: Immunotoxin - Arginine hydrochloride: Toxic to lungs and mucous membranes - Monosodium glutamate: Neurotoxin, Excitotoxin - Gentamicin: Nephrotoxic Discussion There are currently NO clinical trials or results which have validated the long-term safety and efficacy of the FLUMIST vaccine. Regulatory health agencies are refusing to acknowledge this fact or the nature of toxicity levels associated with the FLUMIST and its ingredients. The well documented toxicity evidence for each ingredient presented above are simply ignored. If you’ll notice, most of the ingredients that are considered non-clinically relevant excipients are ALL TOXIC and yet still injected in every person that receives the vaccine. No Pharmacokinetic, Carcinogenic or Fertility Studies One of the most critical elements which defines the toxicity potential of any vaccine are its pharmacokinetic properties. AstraZeneca and Medimmune do not consider the study, analysis or evaluation of the pharmacokinetic properties of any vaccine ingredients or excipients including FLUMIST. This means that the bodily absorption, distribution, metabolism and excretion of ingredients within the vaccine are not known or even considered in safety assessments. FLUMIST has not been evaluated for its carcinogenic or mutagenic potential or its potential to impair fertility. There have also been NO animal reproduction studies or studies in pregnant or lactating women and it is not known whether FLUMIST is excreted in human milk.. Hospitalizations and Deaths An increased rate of hospitalizations (for any cause) through 180 days after final vaccination dose of FLUMIST was observed in children 6-11 months of age. There were eight deaths reported within 180 days of FLUMIST dosing. Of the 8 deaths, 4 occurred within 42 days after the last dose of FLUMIST. 43 and 180 days after FLUMIST dosing, deaths were due to diarrhea and sepsis, encephalopathy, suffocation, and posterior fossa tumor and malignant hyperthermia. Adverse Reactions - Pain - Redness - Swelling - Fatigue - Headaches - Arthralgia (joint inflammation) - Myalgia (muscle inflammation) - Shivering - Sweating - Swollen lymph nodes - Fever - Vomiting - Tingling or numbness of the hands or feet - Shortness of breath - Vasculitis (inflammation of the blood vessels) Serious Adverse Reactions Congenital, familial and genetic: - Exacerbation of symptoms of mitochondrial encephalomyopathy (Leigh syndrome) Immune system: - Anaphylactic reactions, facial edema and urticaria Nervous system: - Guillain-Barré syndrome, Bell’s Palsy Respiratory, thoracic and mediastinal: - Epistaxis Skin and subcutaneous tissue: - Rash The information above clearly demonstrates that the Public Health Agency of Canada and Health Canada have no interest in meeting some of the most basic precautions to safeguard the health of Canadians. Last year, just as flu activity increased across Canada, federal authorities warned Canadians not to buy natural remedies and to strictly confide in the anti-viral drugs and vaccines authorized by Health Canada. 172,000 doses were eventually recalled and withdrawn after serious adverse reactions, notably in the heart and lungs, and hundreds of deaths were reported. Fresh food that lasts from eFoods Direct (Ad) Please protect yourself naturally from the flu. Learn what colds and flus really are and use common sense to best of your ability. Dave Mihalovic is a Naturopathic Doctor who specializes in vaccine research, cancer prevention and a natural approach to treatment. |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by it_is_the_light on Oct 2nd, 2010 at 4:51am
http://www.infowars.com/bill-gates-says-vaccines-can-help-reduce-world-population/
Bill Gates says vaccines can help reduce world population Mike Adams NaturalNews October 1, 2010 In a recent TED conference presentation, Microsoft billionaire Bill Gates, who has donated hundreds of millions of dollars to new vaccine efforts, speaks on the issue of CO2 emissions and its effects on climate change. He presents a formula for tracking CO2 emissions as follows: CO2 = P x S x E x C. P = People S = Services per person E = Energy per service C = CO2 per energy unit Then he adds that in order to get CO2 to zero, “probably one of these numbers is going to have to get pretty close to zero.” ____________ well just check out the video here of gates' rant __________________ Following that, Bill Gates begins to describe how the first number — P (for People) — might be reduced. He says: “The world today has 6.8 billion people… that’s headed up to about 9 billion. Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent.” You can watch this yourself at: http://www.naturalnews.tv/v.asp?v=A… Reducing the world population through vaccines This statement by Bill Gates was not made with any hesitation, stuttering or other indication that it might have been a mistake. It appears to have been a deliberate, calculated part of a well developed and coherent presentation. So what does it mean when Bill Gates says “if we do a really great job on new vaccines… we could lower [world population] by 10 or 15 percent?” Clearly, this statement implies that vaccines are a method of population reduction. So is “health care,” which all NaturalNews readers already know to be more of a “sick care” system that actually harms more people than it helps. Perhaps that’s the whole point of it. Given that vaccines technology help almost no one from a scientific point of view (http://www.naturalnews.com/029641_v…), it raises the question: For what purpose are vaccines being so heavily pushed in the first place? Bill Gates seems to be saying that one of the primary purposes is to reduce the global population as a mechanism by which we can reduce CO2 emissions. Once again, watch the video yourself to hear him say it in his own words: http://www.naturalnews.tv/v.asp?v=A… How can vaccines actually be used to reduce world population? Let’s conduct a mental experiment on this issue. If vaccines are to be used to reduce world population, they obviously need to be accepted by the majority of the people. Otherwise the population reduction effort wouldn’t be very effective. And in order for them to be accepted by the majority of the people, they obviously can’t just kill people outright. If everybody started dropping dead within 24 hours of receiving the flu shot, the danger of vaccines would become obvious rather quickly and the vaccines would be recalled. Thus, if vaccines are to be used as an effective population reduction effort, there are really only three ways in which they might theoretically be “effective” from the point of view of those who wish to reduce world population: #1) They might kill people slowly in a way that’s unnoticeable, taking effect over perhaps 10 – 30 years by accelerating degenerative diseases. #2) They might reduce fertility and therefore dramatically lower birth rates around the world, thereby reducing the world population over successive generations. This “soft kill” method might seem more acceptable to scientists who want to see the world population fall but don’t quite have the stomach to outright kill people with conventional medicine. There is already evidence that vaccines may promote miscarriages (http://www.naturalnews.com/027512_v…). #3) They might increase the death rate from a future pandemic. Theoretically, widespread vaccination efforts could be followed by a deliberate release of a highly virulent flu strain with a high fatality rate. This “bioweapon” approach could kill millions of people whose immune systems have been weakened by previous vaccine injections. This is a known side effect of some vaccines, by the way. A study documenting this was published in PLoS. Read the story here: http://www.naturalnews.com/028538_s… Here’s the study title and citation: Does Seasonal Influenza Vaccination Increase the Risk of Illness with the 2009 A/H1N1 Pandemic Virus? Viboud C, Simonsen L (2010) Does Seasonal Influenza Vaccination Increase the Risk of Illness with the 2009 A/H1N1 Pandemic Virus? PLoS Med 7(4): e1000259. doi:10.1371/journal.pmed.1000259 The short answer is yes, seasonal flu vaccines do cause increased susceptibility to the H1N1 pandemic virus. In other words, seasonal flu vaccines could set up the population for a “hard kill” pandemic that could wipe out a significant portion of the global population (perhaps 10 to 15 percent, as Bill Gates suggested). |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by Amadd on Oct 2nd, 2010 at 4:56am
If we killed all of our governments, and all that they pander to, would we survive?
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by it_is_the_light on Oct 2nd, 2010 at 5:04am
there is no need to kill these,
they will simply be arrested and go to that which they desire the answer is simple,i know it yes. it is for you to decide your reality and so it is namaste -:) |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by it_is_the_light on Nov 14th, 2010 at 8:29pm
EVERY secondary school boy could soon be offered a free jab to vaccinate them against a sexually transmitted disease that causes cancer.
The makers of the Brisbane-developed cervical cancer vaccine Gardasil have asked the Federal Government to extend the highly successful mass immunisation scheme to boys. Since 2007, millions of young Queensland women have received the vaccine, invented by former Australian of the Year Professor Ian Frazer. The Therapeutic Goods Administration last week approved Gardasil for use on males up to the age of 26. It is the first step towards a government-funded vaccine rollout for 12 and 13-year-old boys. The vaccine maker, CSL, has filed an application for the vaccine to be funded for adolescent boys under the National Immunisation Program as a "universal gender neutral program". Gardasil guards against the human papilloma virus (HPV), the most common sexually transmitted disease, responsible for 70 per cent of all cervical cancer as well as some cancers in men. Prof Frazer has argued for the free vaccination to be extended to young men as part of a wider strategy to prevent cancer. "One of the major issues is the prevention of 10 per cent of HPV-associated cancers (including cancers of the mouth and throat) in men. Boys are entitled to be protected like girls," he said. Prof Frazer and other health experts believe the more people vaccinated against HPV, the greater chance of achieving "herd immunity" - where a high percentage of the population is immune to a disease, essentially stopping it in its tracks because it cannot find a new host. CSL said the approval for Gardasil in young men was based on a trial in more than 4000 males aged 16-26 years, where the vaccine was demonstrated to be 90.4 per cent effective. The company has put forward a case that it would be worthwhile on a cost-benefit basis to immunise boys as well as girls. The application to include the vaccine in the National Immunisation Program will be considered at the March meeting of the Pharmaceutical Benefits Advisory Committee. Cancer Council HPV expert Dr Karen Canfell said boys would receive "incremental benefits" from vaccination. "It is a complex issue," she said. "There will be better protection if males are vaccinated but we have to put this in perspective of the benefit boys and men are getting from the current vaccination program because Australia has one of the most comprehensive programs in females. "Our own research has shown that rates of infection of HPV in females has already halved since the vaccination program started and is going to keep declining and the fact that new infections are halving in women is already going to have that beneficial effect on men." Every year it is estimated there are 44,000 new cases of genital warts, caused by HPV, with an annual cost of managing the disease at more than $14 million. Rates of new genital wart infection in Australia have plummeted, research shows, in an early positive sign of the success of mass Gardasil vaccinations. A study taking in patient data from sexual health clinics across the country has shown up to a 60 per cent fall in new genital wart cases since 2007, when the anti-cancer vaccine was first used. http://www.couriermail.com.au/lifestyle/health/schoolboys-to-be-offered-cervical-cancer-vaccine-gardasil-to-stamp-out-human-papilloma-virus/story-e6frer7f-1225953100528 |
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Title: Re: Vaccines Post by it_is_the_light on Nov 16th, 2010 at 6:26am
http://www.infowars.com/educated-families-increasingly-refusing-vaccinations/
Educated families increasingly refusing vaccinations Ethan A. Huff Natural News November 15, 2010 Educated Americans with private insurance plans are becoming increasingly less prone to vaccinate their children, according to this year’s annual State of Health Care Quality report released by the National Committee for Quality Assurance (NCQA). The report states that there was a four percentage point drop in vaccination rates among middle- and upper-class families between 2008 and 2009. “This was the first time we’d seen a drop — and it was a pretty big drop,” Sarah Thomas, vice president of public policy and communication at NCQA, is quoted as saying to HealthDay. “We didn’t really explore the reasons [for the trend], but one leading hypothesis is that parents have decided not to get their children vaccinated because of concerns about the potential for side effects and even autism.” Meanwhile, vaccination rates among poorer individuals on government welfare programs like Medicaid have been on the rise. Programs like “Vaccines for Children” (VFC) that provide free (taxpayer-funded) vaccines to doctors who serve eligible children are among those that have spurred the increase within this socioeconomic group. Many experts insist that vaccines are one of the greatest public health achievements in the world, but numerous studies point not only to their ineffectiveness, but also to the harm they cause to both children and adults (http://vactruth.com/). Of course, there are other studies out there that insist vaccines are safe and effective, but most, if not all, of these studies are funded by the very drug companies producing the vaccines (http://www.naturalnews.com/030025_v…). In fact, a former editor of The New England Journal of Medicine, commented on the extent of industry corruption by revealing that “[i]t is simply no longer possible to believe much of the clinical research that is published, or to rely on the judgment of trusted physicians or authoritative medical guidelines.” Even though many will criticize families who choose not to get vaccinated as being “irresponsible” and “misinformed”, avoiding vaccinations because of safety concerns actually makes a lot more logical sense than simply trusting the tainted “studies” used to quell fears and increase vaccine sales. |
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