So 1 greens that'll go to Labor, but who are the other 3 house of rep seat holders the libs need to take there 73 to 76?

Would ANYONE want to tie themselves to a side who is losing as bad as the alp ?

the alp are down and out, bickering, infighting, failures.

No wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 1:46am:

So 1 greens that'll go to Labor, but who are the other 3 house of rep seat holders the libs need to take there 73 to 76?

Look, Australians have cast their vote, and an overwhelming majority voted in favour of a Liberal government as per their primary votes.

The thing is, A majority will be gutted and somewhat contemptuous if Labor-cats  somehow manage to work some kind of black magic and land on their feet, without the majority vote.

Essentially, it will tell Australians their votes aren't decided by a people, rather are negotiated between board-room power-brokers...and seriously, this will gut the Australian majorities faith in our 'alleged' democracy, and I know they know this too, which is why it's not even in their best interests to move mountains with pitch-forks in order to win an election they shouldn't have won to begin with.

Liberals deserve their win, their supporters, an Australian majority have made this clear...botched/pre-ordered preferences aside.

Australia has decided.

Abbott is the clear winner of the 2010 election.

:)

No he isn't, mellie. and maybe that is exactly the point. Maybe Australia needs to get to this point after all these decades. This is not the end of the story it is just the beginning. It is time to get the psychopaths out of power, this is a cleansing process. If they try now to tinker with the system and dodge the Australian people, well then, maybe it is time for a showdown. It is a long time coming in this country.

shampain socialist wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 2:05am:

No he isn't, mellie. and maybe that is exactly the point. Maybe Australia needs to get to this point after all these decades. This is not the end of the story it is just the beginning. It is time to get the psychopaths out of power, this is a cleansing process. If they try now to tinker with the system and dodge the Australian people, well then, maybe it is time for a showdown. It is a long time coming in this country.

I'm inclined to agree with you, though I doubt even Labor would be so stupid to attempt to alter the natural course of preference.

If they do, then it would be a terrible mistake....  what's the point in leading a nation whereby a huge majority would prefer you left the building? That's just so indignant, embarrassing..like a hungry schoolgirl running after a married man who has made his disinterest felt.

Surely, she (Gillard) cant be so hungry, drunk with self entitlement and power to even think about pulling this on a country which has clearly made up it's mind?

In doing so..she's basically saying, "Yeah, I know most of you didn't vote for me, but tough luck kiddos, I have the means to move mountains, and will do so at my own discretion"....

Again, not a good look coming from a party who claims to uphold the core values of democracy. A peoples party!

 ::)..I think Julias disappointed, but don't think she'll be stupid/crazy enough to make an iconic hate-relic of herself.
No, I don't think Labor will push through with forcing an unwanted victory.

As this would be un-Australian.

:)

yes they will, mellie. you watch. This is a BIG fight coming up. Australia will not really have a government now for some time, we will have another election. It is quite possible now that if one and other side dig their heels in and it is perceived or determined as unconstitutional, there could be a crisis in this country which is presently unimaginable. It can happen, and it will happen in other countries as well.
There is an economic crisis coming, and woe betide a government that is in power illegally during that. You know what this is the recipe for don't you.
There could be another vice regal dismissal coming up here, and then it will be on, you can bet on it.,
As I said, maybe there needs to be a showdown; what do they call in in "polite" company, a face off isn't it. LOL

No, Labors notoriety for theatrics aside, I think Australians wont appreciate waking up to a communist dictatorship tomorrow morning, or for however long this media-cloaked election drags out.

Better to lose gracefully, than win disgracefully...without the support of your fellow countrymen.

:) Labor would never live it down.

why? there are a lot of communists here, they just don't define themselves as such, but they are. They don't think "others" have any right to govern, like all communists think. They also think they are "Australians".  They would have no compunction at all in taking what they perceive is theirs.
You have rose coloured glasses, mellie. It is your background, I understand where you are coming from. You are somewhat cushioned in your background I see, I do not mean that ungenerously.

You don't really understand the thought processes that go on in this country on the other side of your politics; and I don't think you really know what has been required to deal with it in other countries.

Australia is like a political museum, it is about the last country on earth to change from these old ideologies, and in this country, they are entrenched, I know, and they are quite powerful, and now we will see them for what they are. Don't forget, the Rudd backstabbing...now we will see where that sort of belief places the Labor party in their next chosen actions in respect of the Australian people. These are quite dangerous times, I do believe, but they may be necessary to save this country.

Liberal have won the election, OK!

8-)...But stop rubbing it in.

they have NOT won the election, that is exactly the point. Neither they, nor the Labor party have won the election until it is in all probability legally determined. Then there will be people on both sides of politics who will say that the legal decision has been politically influenced in some way. It always had to come to this in Australia, it has been inching closer every election for decades. I am glad we have reached this stage now, and it can get settled one way or the other.

Your regard for their being an actual presence, reinforces their self-proclaimed sense of authority.

We have won this election, it's as simple as that, and should they attempt corrupt the course of a peoples democracy in order to win an already people-decided election, we will make their lives very difficult on so many levels even skull-capped Liberal traitor Alexander Downer will choke on his bagel.

We are legion..

8-)....  

Can Liberals win the election?

Yes we have!

8-)  I challenge them to concur otherwise.

they will say you have not won, but are usurpers. What will you do then? Apologise? or get your Anglo arse into gear to fight.

shampain socialist wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 3:08am:

they will say you have not won, but are usurpers. What will you do then? Apologise? or get your Anglo arse into gear to fight.

We already fought and won, you need to have faith.

8-)...

you haven't won the election, you better have faith you can win the fight.
and stop apologising.

haven't you ever noticed that the lefties don't apologise for anything.
LOOK at them.

shampain socialist wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 3:21am:

you haven't won the election, you better have faith you can win the fight. and stop apologising. haven't you ever noticed that the lefties don't apologise for anything. LOOK at them.

Has it not occurred to you that  these differences are what set us worlds apart?

I will get up when required, though I have it on good authority that this wont be necessary.

:) He's won!

he has not won, if he gets in a minority government, the real-Australian middle ground have put him there, WE DID IT, NOT BLOODY HIM, and he will be there on sufferance until such time as we want to vote him out.
If he gets one ounce of arrogance, he is gone. That's the message for both sides. Clean up your act, or you are out; and before you get a chance to stuff up OUR COUNTRY, you will need to fight between yourselves to get to be in government. Excellent, that should give us months of peace without governments harrassing us.
Well done, Australia.
KICK ARSE! HARD!

GOOD NITE. AND LNP BOB - GET A LIFE WILL YOU.

shampain socialist wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 3:48am:

he has not won, if he gets in a minority government, the real-Australian middle ground have put him there, WE DID IT, NOT BLOODY HIM, and he will be there on sufferance until such time as we want to vote him out. If he gets one ounce of arrogance, he is gone. That's the message for both sides. Clean up your act, or you are out; and before you get a chance to stuff it up, you will need to fight between yourselves to get to be in government. Excellent, that should give us months of peace without governments harrassing us. Well done, Australia. KICK ARSE! HARD!

You need a Bex and a good lie-down champs.

;)...  The people have decided, a Gillard government victory would prove undemocratic at best.

...In keeping with our illusion of democracy, ....Australians just aren't ready to accept their votes don't count.

there's a whole lot better things than Bex grandma.

"Australians just aren't ready to accept their votes don't count."
Yes, but I hope they're prepared to fight for that, not just apologise and get back to their knitting.

Australians are a simple creature, though know  more people voted for a Liberal government than did a Labia socialist republic.

....... Even her idea of a first bloke 'Tim' is detrimental.

Wont they be the very first unmarried 'said' atheist couple to have resided in the lodge? Well, this really sets the standard doesn't it.
Then there's his dubious employment high-jump from hair products door to door salesman to prestigious Jewish property salesman, the forum who funded their socialistic redundant campaign. Then there's his bastard illegitimate daughter which looks purged straight from the set of a Rocky Horror theatre production and smacks of self-harm...Hollywood hairdresser or not.. it's rather unconventional, even for an Australian government.

Hardly your shining example of the first family one might hope to lead their nation into a promising future now is it.

8-)....  

Oh, and we wont be laying down, this I can assure you.

8-)

And that's just the superficial family stuff...minus her political shortcomings and predecessor assassinations.


It all comes out in the wash...

8-)

Must I put a pic of all our developed worlds leaders "first children" and make this comparison?

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/special-reports/julia-gillards-stepdaughter-staci-child-silent-on-electionl/story-fn5ko0pw-1225905802296

If the shoe doesn't fit, don't wear it.

I have a feeling Gillard isn't who and what she claims to be...

With or without the appointment of a first 'beard'

8-) Night!