despite having more votes

thats kind of funny

but also kind of not

bump 8-)

im depressed i wanted them to win

Labor will form government with the Greens/Wilkes. This means they are buggered. They will have to go left and that will be the end of them.
After the next election we will have another 12 years of conservative government.

More like 1000 years of my personal rule

I hope they run this country into the ground and then I can take over

Soren wrote on Aug 21^st, 2010 at 9:59pm:

Labor will form government with the Greens/Wilkes. This means they are buggered. They will have to go left and that will be the end of them. After the next election we will have another 12 years of conservative government.

In some ways, it might be better if the Abbott Libs form a minority lame duck govt - and get another chance to show their true colours before calling a DD election...

:-/

Equitist wrote on Aug 21^st, 2010 at 10:04pm:

Soren wrote on Aug 21st, 2010 at 9:59pm: Labor will form government with the Greens/Wilkes. This means they are buggered. They will have to go left and that will be the end of them. After the next election we will have another 12 years of conservative government. In some ways, it might be better if the Abbott Libs form a minority lame duck govt - and get another chance to show their true colours before calling a DD election... :-/

If Labor forms a minority government, they will be buggered by their coalition partnets, constantly pushing them to the left.

If the Libs form a minority government, they will win the next one outright.

Soren wrote on Aug 21^st, 2010 at 10:18pm:

Equitist wrote on Aug 21st, 2010 at 10:04pm: Soren wrote on Aug 21st, 2010 at 9:59pm: Labor will form government with the Greens/Wilkes. This means they are buggered. They will have to go left and that will be the end of them. After the next election we will have another 12 years of conservative government. In some ways, it might be better if the Abbott Libs form a minority lame duck govt - and get another chance to show their true colours before calling a DD election... :-/ If Labor forms a minority government, they will be buggered by their coalition partnets, constantly pushing them to the left. If the Libs form a minority government, they will win the next one outright.

After tonight's interim election results, I can neither agree nor disagree with you on that - I shall await some more results and Sunday political commentary before I form an opinion...

Soren's prediction looks the most likely, but the truth is that we may not know who will form a government for a week or more, with so many seats going down to very, very small margins.

One panelist on 9 made the comment that if we see a minority government formed we may see a more civilised atmosphere develop in our political system, and I must say that after seeing the plethora of extremist views expressed in this forum recently, that would be a good change to witness.

It is still possible Labor may hold on to win enough seats on it's own, but a Labor government supported by the Greens is more likely.

If that happens it will produce the best government we could have, because we will then see a real policy to address climate change developed, and we will also see Labor step back from their copying of Abbott's sick xenophobic policies against refugees, and a return to a caring government not ashamed to show compassion to those most in need.

Go Greens, you did awesomely well.

I hope the Libs just keep drifting further right until they make themselves as electiorally unpalatable as their coalition partners, the Nationals.

A coalition government in its own right  is starting to look even better.

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Mozz would be frothing at the mouth by now

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This is fantastic news.

I spent this morning at a polling booth handing out how to vote LNP cards and the dissatisfaction with the GALP was palpable.

It translated to the tally nationwide.

Now, though this will take years to put right, we can start to make life better for ordinary Australians.

hahhahaha


And, ironman Abbott is NOT speaking in fron of the faithful now because ............


................. he has better things to do


he has a govt to assemble

It was wonderful to watch one of the most incompetent govts in history get its probable marching orders.

We`re ot out of the woods yet.  Labor can still handicap our efforts to repair the damage.

mozzaok wrote on Aug 21^st, 2010 at 10:54pm:

It is still possible Labor may hold on to win enough seats on it's own, but a Labor government supported by the Greens is more likely. If that happens it will produce the best government we could have, because we will then see a real policy to address climate change developed, and we will also see Labor step back from their copying of Abbott's sick xenophobic policies against refugees, and a return to a caring government not ashamed to show compassion to those most in need.

If this happens, it will be a wipeout for Labor/Greens at the next election. It will be 1975 without the dismissal.

Mozz, labelling concerns about boats as xenophobic is a recipe for electoral disaster for the Left. There is much less resistance to orderlty migration for Australia's benefit than to hundreds of boatloads a year of undocumented people who can obviously afford thousans of dollars to bypass the orderly immigraion process.

To trumpet that those who can tell the difference between migration and people smuggling are xenophobic is malicious and stupid. Don't go that way.

If the idiots in this country vote for big ears, I will leave the country.

I buggerin' hate Liberals, they are so dumb.

Good, leave. Move to some overseas multicultural paradise like India or Sudan; everybody is tolerant in these places because there are no white people.

Well me personally, I'm going to wait until the final count, and see WHO forms a Government...

mozzaok wrote on Aug 21^st, 2010 at 10:54pm:

Soren's prediction looks the most likely, but the truth is that we may not know who will form a government for a week or more, with so many seats going down to very, very small margins. One panelist on 9 made the comment that if we see a minority government formed we may see a more civilised atmosphere develop in our political system, and I must say that after seeing the plethora of extremist views expressed in this forum recently, that would be a good change to witness. It is still possible Labor may hold on to win enough seats on it's own, but a Labor government supported by the Greens is more likely. If that happens it will produce the best government we could have, because we will then see a real policy to address climate change developed, and we will also see Labor step back from their copying of Abbott's sick xenophobic policies against refugees, and a return to a caring government not ashamed to show compassion to those most in need. Go Greens, you did awesomely well. I hope the Libs just keep drifting further right until they make themselves as electiorally unpalatable as their coalition partners, the Nationals.

Isn't the Government formed in the House of Reps????

If so, what difference does 1 Greens rep make??

hahahaha nope, a labor/indy minority government will be the result.

The Rudd/Gillard govt was competent: we have 5% unemployment compared to double/treble that elsewhere.

The NBN will be built and transform the economy.

An ETS will also be introduced—negotiated between Labor & Coalition. the MRRT will also go ahead, negotiated Labor-Greens (in Senate.) thus everyone will be enmeshed and share responsibility with Labor seen as a clear leader.

just as well Labor will still be the govt, anyone seriously want the endorphin addict Abbott and the buffoon Hockey controlling the economy when the Long Depression clamps down worldwide? Seriously?

Vanessa wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 5:47pm:

If the idiots in this country vote for big ears, I will leave the country. I buggerin' hate Liberals, they are so dumb.

And you're a budding Einstien eh........ ;D ;D ;D

Soren wrote on Aug 21^st, 2010 at 9:59pm:

Labor will form government with the Greens/Wilkes. This means they are buggered. They will have to go left and that will be the end of them. After the next election we will have another 12 years of conservative government.

I think you're right. It looks like Labor's days are numbered. They've reached a point of no return, popularity wise.

The Libs have to stuff-up big time to see them lose the next election.

I doubt we'll see a move to the left though. The current Labor cabinet is quite conservative, Gillard included. I doubt the Greens will get their way - many of the independants are Nationals.

What we're more likely to see is nothing happening for 3 years - and by nothing, I mean nothing. The Greens and Independants won't like Labor's assylum-seeker policies. Gillard's already put off the ETS. Broadband rollout is about all that will get up.

These are the flagship policies, however. Quietly, other things might get through. But with so many independants, initiatives will leak. This fact alone will make governing very difficult, and politically, I doubt very much that Labor will survive it.

They will need a miracle next time round.

Vanessa wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 5:47pm:

If the idiots in this country vote for big ears, I will leave the country. I buggerin' hate Liberals, they are so dumb.

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

heh, one of the stupidest, cringe-inducing Libs got booted out of Parliament: come on, any Lib no matter how diehard must be relieved one clown less in your ranks? Wilson Tuckey, 30 years in Parliament, not even Howard, not noted for demanding high standards of his Ministers, put up with Tuckey as a junior Minister for long  ;D ;D ;D

Of course, the Lib ranks are still studded with duds and non performers!

Vanessa wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 5:47pm:

If the idiots in this country vote for big ears, I will leave the country. I buggerin' hate Liberals, they are so dumb.

You are just saying this to strut your Emotional Correctness.

Darwin wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 5:58pm:

just as well Labor will still be the govt, anyone seriously want the endorphin addict Abbott and the buffoon Hockey controlling the economy when the Long Depression clamps down worldwide? Seriously?

the sadist in me actually would like to see a Liberal government in charge during economically difficult times.
It would finally and emphatically put the "Better economic mangers" to bed.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 6:57pm:

the sadist in me actually would like to see a Liberal government in charge during economically difficult times. It would finally and emphatically put the "Better economic mangers" to bed.

Well we've certainly seen what an unmitigated disaster Labor are economically when challenges arise eh?

How much is that debt again?

$100m of interest every day?

Dsmithy70 wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 6:57pm:

the sadist in me actually would like to see a Liberal government in charge during economically difficult times. It would finally and emphatically put the "Better economic mangers" to bed.

Completely off-topic Smithy but in regard to your avatar.
Dave Prowse, the guy who played Darth Vader, was not allowed into my uncle's gang at school back in the 50's.  ;D

Dsmithy70 wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 6:57pm:

Darwin wrote on Aug 22nd, 2010 at 5:58pm: just as well Labor will still be the govt, anyone seriously want the endorphin addict Abbott and the buffoon Hockey controlling the economy when the Long Depression clamps down worldwide? Seriously? the sadist in me actually would like to see a Liberal government in charge during economically difficult times. It would finally and emphatically put the "Better economic mangers" to bed.

Indeed, giving the Lib attack-dogs enough rope, in the short term, might be the best way to go for the longer term...

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 7:09pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Aug 22nd, 2010 at 6:57pm: the sadist in me actually would like to see a Liberal government in charge during economically difficult times. It would finally and emphatically put the "Better economic mangers" to bed. Well we've certainly seen what an unmitigated disaster Labor are economically when challenges arise eh? How much is that debt again? $100m of interest every day?

Stimulus package. WTF do you think that money came from? The reason for our debt is the same reason we are not in a recession.

Trust the dumb retarded Libs not to get that though!

Vanessa wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 7:59pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 22nd, 2010 at 7:09pm: Dsmithy70 wrote on Aug 22nd, 2010 at 6:57pm: the sadist in me actually would like to see a Liberal government in charge during economically difficult times. It would finally and emphatically put the "Better economic mangers" to bed. Well we've certainly seen what an unmitigated disaster Labor are economically when challenges arise eh? How much is that debt again? $100m of interest every day? Stimulus package. WTF do you think that money came from? The reason for our debt is the same reason we are not in a recession. Trust the dumb retarded Libs not to get that though!

Sorry Vanessa - the people have spoken and removed the majority enjoyed by the Labor after ONE TERM.

You know why?

Because we are in debt, because we have waves of shyte people coming over on boats, because a lot of us are paying more in tax and have had our benefits cut, because Labor have made a right old mess of things.

Don't just ask me - have a look at the election result. A wipe out of the Labor vote.

In just one term too......

Well done Tony Abbott.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 8:02pm:

Vanessa wrote on Aug 22nd, 2010 at 7:59pm: Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 22nd, 2010 at 7:09pm: Dsmithy70 wrote on Aug 22nd, 2010 at 6:57pm: the sadist in me actually would like to see a Liberal government in charge during economically difficult times. It would finally and emphatically put the "Better economic mangers" to bed. Well we've certainly seen what an unmitigated disaster Labor are economically when challenges arise eh? How much is that debt again? $100m of interest every day? Stimulus package. WTF do you think that money came from? The reason for our debt is the same reason we are not in a recession. Trust the dumb retarded Libs not to get that though! Sorry Vanessa - the people have spoken and removed the majority enjoyed by the Labor after ONE TERM. You know why? Because we are in debt, because we have waves of shyte people coming over on boats, because a lot of us are paying more in tax and have had our benefits cut, because Labor have made a right old mess of things. Don't just ask me - have a look at the election result. A wipe out of the Labor vote. In just one term too...... Well done Tony Abbott.

Then if Abbott buggers things up and you start complaining - which the Libs will do - then tough luck. You pay peanuts you get monkeys. You deserve everything you get.

And what a pair of monkeys we got in Rudd and Swan!!

Then in came the Kath & Kim bogan and her Orstraaaaaaya policies.

She then bolloxed all that up.

Pay back the debt, stop the shyte people coming in, stop the boats, and stop this carbon tax.

Beautiful!!!

Natural order is looking like being restored after just one term!   ;D

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES NATIONAL TWO PARTY PREFERRED RESULT
                   
Australian Labor Party      5,041,005          50.67                        -2.03
Liberal/National Coalition      4,907,507          49.33                       +2.03

Equitist wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 7:39pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Aug 22nd, 2010 at 6:57pm: Darwin wrote on Aug 22nd, 2010 at 5:58pm: just as well Labor will still be the govt, anyone seriously want the endorphin addict Abbott and the buffoon Hockey controlling the economy when the Long Depression clamps down worldwide? Seriously? the sadist in me actually would like to see a Liberal government in charge during economically difficult times. It would finally and emphatically put the "Better economic mangers" to bed. Indeed, giving the Lib attack-dogs enough rope, in the short term, might be the best way to go for the longer term...

Which raises the point that the Liberals are only as good as they have to be, to counter the "quality" of the left.

Deborahmac09 wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 8:07pm:

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES NATIONAL TWO PARTY PREFERRED RESULT                     Australian Labor Party      5,041,005          50.67                        -2.03 Liberal/National Coalition      4,907,507          49.33                       +2.03

Oh dear Deborah - someone seems like they are grasping for some straws.
Would you like to borrow one?

no ty, can't afford to pay it back ;p
and we do not need anymore debt do we  8-)

Deborahmac09 wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 8:13pm:

no ty, can't afford to pay it back ;p and we do not need anymore debt do we  8-)

What if we just tax the most important industry in the country more and just hand out free money so you can pay it back that way?

That seems to be an 'economically sensible' way to do things if you ask some....

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 8:21pm:

Deborahmac09 wrote on Aug 22nd, 2010 at 8:13pm: no ty, can't afford to pay it back ;p and we do not need anymore debt do we  8-) What if we just tax the most important industry in the country more and just hand out free money so you can pay it back that way? That seems to be an 'economically sensible' way to do things if you ask some....

taking it from those who make big profits,(even then only after they have made yay much) or taking it from those who don't.  You choose.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 8:05pm:

And what a pair of monkeys we got in Rudd and Swan!! Then in came the Kath & Kim bogan and her Orstraaaaaaya policies. She then bolloxed all that up. Pay back the debt, stop the shyte people coming in, stop the boats, and stop this carbon tax. Beautiful!!! Natural order is looking like being restored after just one term!   ;D

The "natural order," eh? You seem to think debt is something outside of nature, but Australia has nearly always had a deficit, as have most countries - and now more than ever.

Just as most families have debts called mortgages.

And as for stopping "shyte" people coming in - how do you do that? People's shytness is not on the immigration criteria, and Abbott's not planning on stopping immigration to Australia - or, for that matter, stopping "shyte" people from having babies.

You're right though: Abbott has done an amazing job of getting the Libs up to forming a government after one term. But it's built on a mirage. The issues the Libs championed have nothing to do with anything. This election has, essentially, been about nothing.

We might as well have just focused on Brad and Ange's latest spat, or LiLo's stint in rehab.

Meanwhile, the world grows and the temperature rises. And we sit in Australia, fiddling over a few thousand "shyte" people.

It's not Labor that needs to go, it's the fantasies of the Australian electorate. If Abbott gets in, I guess, we've earned him.