Is it the beginning of a new Holocaust in Europe? This time for Gypsies

Yesterday, the first group of Bulgarian and Romanian gypsies residing on the territory of France illegally was deported to their homelands.
Deportation of the gypsies is based on the decision taken in late July by French President Nicolas Sarkozy. Based on the information that nearly 200 camps of gypsies who arrived from Bulgaria and Romania are the hotbeds of drug trafficking, child begging, prostitution and unsanitary conditions, he decided to shut them down and deport their residents.
It must be said that the decision to evict the Bulgarian and Romanian Gypsies was seen in Europe as controversial. In France itself, representatives of opposition parties (the Socialists, the Greens, and the Communists) are critical about the measures. They believe that Sarkozy and his right-wing party the Union for a Popular Movement (SNM) is trying to raise their rating by playing on nationalist sentiments, and therefore is trying to present the Gypsies as criminals.
With all the objective pros in favour of the French decision, there is an unpleasant historical analogy with second world war era. Gypsies along with Jews were among those peoples whom the Nazis intended to fully destroy in gas chambers. And, as if atoning the sins of Hitler.

I remember when Madonna tried to lecture her Romanian audience during a concert on tolerance for Gypsies and was booed off the stage. You can't really convince Europeans that Gypsies aren't terrible. No amount of liberal badgering can do it.

Some how I doubt it athos...

After all, the Gypsies where only deported, not interned in camps...

People in Europe have thought the Gypsies to be thieves, child-stealers and witches/warlocks for centuries....
And it is entirely possible that Sarkozy is right about them too...

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People in Europe have thought the Gypsies to be thieves

Do you think there may be a perfectly good reason why they have thought this for so long?

Gypsies are like hippies. You have to nip it in the bud, or before you know you'll have a 3 mile wide drum circle.

athos wrote on Aug 21^st, 2010 at 12:55pm:

Is it the beginning of a new Holocaust in Europe? This time for Gypsies Yesterday, the first group of Bulgarian and Romanian gypsies residing on the territory of France illegally was deported to their homelands.

Geez, now deporting peope who are illegally in a counbtry is the beginning of a holocaust?

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Is it the beginning of a new Holocaust in Europe? This time for Gypsies

This time? Like they missed out last time?

Soren wrote on Aug 21^st, 2010 at 3:15pm:

athos wrote on Aug 21st, 2010 at 12:55pm: Is it the beginning of a new Holocaust in Europe? This time for Gypsies Yesterday, the first group of Bulgarian and Romanian gypsies residing on the territory of France illegally was deported to their homelands. Geez, now deporting peope who are illegally in a counbtry is the beginning of a holocaust?

"With all the objective pros in favour of the French decision, there is an unpleasant historical analogy with second world war era. Gypsies along with Jews were among those peoples whom the Nazis intended to fully destroy in gas chambers. And, as if atoning the sins of Hitler".

The funny thing is if the Holocaust had only been committed against the Gypsies I doubt anybody in Europe would have cared about it. Nobody likes them at all.

aikmann4 wrote on Aug 21^st, 2010 at 9:14pm:

The funny thing is if the Holocaust had only been committed against the Gypsies I doubt anybody in Europe would have cared about it. Nobody likes them at all.

As a devout gypsy, I say kill them all and let God sort them out.

Well that about sums up the Roma's attitudes towards non-gypsies right there. They basically have a borderline sociopathic relationship with outgroups. It's why nobody likes them.

The gypsies are the indian camp followers of the Ottoman armies that pushed up against Vienna in 1687. They are indians without the call centre skills.

Big Donger wrote on Aug 21^st, 2010 at 9:57pm:

aikmann4 wrote on Aug 21st, 2010 at 9:14pm: The funny thing is if the Holocaust had only been committed against the Gypsies I doubt anybody in Europe would have cared about it. Nobody likes them at all. As a devout gypsy, I say kill them all and let God sort them out.

A muslim gypsie? If you were a gay muslim gypsie arriving on a boat you'd have it all.

aikmann4 wrote on Aug 21^st, 2010 at 9:14pm:

The funny thing is if the Holocaust had only been committed against the Gypsies I doubt anybody in Europe would have cared about it. Nobody likes them at all.

Sadly, that's quite an accurate assessment. I remember the Romanian gypsy women at the Eiffel Tower. They are still trying to score money from tourists using the gold ring scam.

One of them got very angry at my wife. She said to the gypsy- 'I found it and I'm going to hand it in to the police.'

freediver wrote on Aug 21^st, 2010 at 3:06pm:

Gypsies are like hippies. You have to nip it in the bud, or before you know you'll have a 3 mile wide drum circle.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

As a former hippie, I will pay that one.

freediver wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 8:12am:

Big Donger wrote on Aug 21st, 2010 at 9:57pm: As a devout gypsy, I say kill them all and let God sort them out. A muslim gypsie? If you were a gay muslim gypsie arriving on a boat you'd have it all.

Ding, ding, ding, ding... Apple, apple, apple... Pay the man. ;D

Soren wrote on Aug 21^st, 2010 at 10:21pm:

The gypsies are the indian camp followers of the Ottoman armies that pushed up against Vienna in 1687. They are indians without the call centre skills.

I would rather say that Indians are Gypsies without sense for freedom.

Interesting real story from "Postcards from Australia"

In one of the European Migrant Churches  in Sydney people spotted an Indian family with two kids.

Many of them asked:
"Hei what's happening? Since when Indians started coming in our Church!?.

One of the man calmed them down explaining:
"Don't worry they are not Indians, they are our Gypsies"

athos wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 12:11pm:

Many of them asked: "Hei what's happening? Since when Indians started coming in our Church!?.

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Christianity is India's third-largest religion, with approximately 24 million followers, constituting 2.3% of India's population. Although, the exact origins of Christianity in India remain unclear, it is generally agreed that Christianity in India is almost as old as Christianity itself and spread in India even before it spread in many, predominantly Christian, nations of Europe.

athos wrote on Aug 21^st, 2010 at 12:55pm:

Is it the beginning of a new Holocaust in Europe? This time for Gypsies Yesterday, the first group of Bulgarian and Romanian gypsies residing on the territory of France illegally was deported to their homelands. Deportation of the gypsies is based on the decision taken in late July by French President Nicolas Sarkozy. Based on the information that nearly 200 camps of gypsies who arrived from Bulgaria and Romania are the hotbeds of drug trafficking, child begging, prostitution and unsanitary conditions, he decided to shut them down and deport their residents. It must be said that the decision to evict the Bulgarian and Romanian Gypsies was seen in Europe as controversial. In France itself, representatives of opposition parties (the Socialists, the Greens, and the Communists) are critical about the measures. They believe that Sarkozy and his right-wing party the Union for a Popular Movement (SNM) is trying to raise their rating by playing on nationalist sentiments, and therefore is trying to present the Gypsies as criminals. With all the objective pros in favour of the French decision, there is an unpleasant historical analogy with second world war era. Gypsies along with Jews were among those peoples whom the Nazis intended to fully destroy in gas chambers. And, as if atoning the sins of Hitler.

I think the point here is that these people were deported because they were illegals, and not about them being gypsies.

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 11:58am:

athos wrote on Aug 21st, 2010 at 12:55pm: Is it the beginning of a new Holocaust in Europe? This time for Gypsies Yesterday, the first group of Bulgarian and Romanian gypsies residing on the territory of France illegally was deported to their homelands. Deportation of the gypsies is based on the decision taken in late July by French President Nicolas Sarkozy. Based on the information that nearly 200 camps of gypsies who arrived from Bulgaria and Romania are the hotbeds of drug trafficking, child begging, prostitution and unsanitary conditions, he decided to shut them down and deport their residents. It must be said that the decision to evict the Bulgarian and Romanian Gypsies was seen in Europe as controversial. In France itself, representatives of opposition parties (the Socialists, the Greens, and the Communists) are critical about the measures. They believe that Sarkozy and his right-wing party the Union for a Popular Movement (SNM) is trying to raise their rating by playing on nationalist sentiments, and therefore is trying to present the Gypsies as criminals. With all the objective pros in favour of the French decision, there is an unpleasant historical analogy with second world war era. Gypsies along with Jews were among those peoples whom the Nazis intended to fully destroy in gas chambers. And, as if atoning the sins of Hitler. I think the point here is that these people were deported because they were illegals, and not about them being gypsies.

Gypsies along with Jews were among those peoples whom the Nazis intended to fully destroy in gas chambers. And, as if atoning the sins of Hitler.
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So If we want to avoid the truth just be politically correct.
It looks only Jews have exclusive right on holocaust.
What about million others including Gypsies, killed in Nazi contraindication camps? It seems they are not worth mentioning.

gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 21^st, 2010 at 1:30pm:

Some how I doubt it athos... After all, the Gypsies where only deported, not interned in camps... People in Europe have thought the Gypsies to be thieves, child-stealers and witches/warlocks for centuries.... And it is entirely possible that Sarkozy is right about them too...

Sorry but this is definitely a case of smoke indicating fire. Parasites. Frankly I couldn't care less about them being deported.

Oh and in league with vampires.

athos wrote on Aug 25^th, 2010 at 12:08pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 23rd, 2010 at 11:58am: athos wrote on Aug 21st, 2010 at 12:55pm: Is it the beginning of a new Holocaust in Europe? This time for Gypsies Yesterday, the first group of Bulgarian and Romanian gypsies residing on the territory of France illegally was deported to their homelands. Deportation of the gypsies is based on the decision taken in late July by French President Nicolas Sarkozy. Based on the information that nearly 200 camps of gypsies who arrived from Bulgaria and Romania are the hotbeds of drug trafficking, child begging, prostitution and unsanitary conditions, he decided to shut them down and deport their residents. It must be said that the decision to evict the Bulgarian and Romanian Gypsies was seen in Europe as controversial. In France itself, representatives of opposition parties (the Socialists, the Greens, and the Communists) are critical about the measures. They believe that Sarkozy and his right-wing party the Union for a Popular Movement (SNM) is trying to raise their rating by playing on nationalist sentiments, and therefore is trying to present the Gypsies as criminals. With all the objective pros in favour of the French decision, there is an unpleasant historical analogy with second world war era. Gypsies along with Jews were among those peoples whom the Nazis intended to fully destroy in gas chambers. And, as if atoning the sins of Hitler. I think the point here is that these people were deported because they were illegals, and not about them being gypsies. Gypsies along with Jews were among those peoples whom the Nazis intended to fully destroy in gas chambers. And, as if atoning the sins of Hitler.

So If we want to avoid the truth just be politically correct.
It looks only Jews has exclusive right on holocaust.
What about million others including Gypsies, killed in Nazi contraindication camps? It seems they are not worth mentioning.[/quote]



They could have been left handed lesbian linedancers, they still would have been deported because they were in the country illegally.

"It looks only Jews has exclusive right on holocaust.
What about million others including Gypsies, killed in Nazi contraindication camps? It seems they are not worth mentioning."


Rot !!!!!!!!!!!

Around 12 million people were slaughtered by the Nazi war machine in WW2..

Around 6 million were Jews.the rest were mainly what Hitler considered riff raff...Gypsies, people with mental and/or physical issues, people with Down's Syndrome, homosexuals, anyone who disagreed withhis ideals, religious objectors such as Jehovah's Witnesses and more........

Don't think i ever saw a gypsy with a job.  Unless you count begging and thieving as a job.

cockneydoll wrote on Aug 25^th, 2010 at 1:26pm:

"It looks only Jews has exclusive right on holocaust. What about million others including Gypsies, killed in Nazi contraindication camps? It seems they are not worth mentioning." Rot !!!!!!!!!!! Around 12 million people were slaughtered by the Nazi war machine in WW2.. Around 6 million were Jews.the rest were mainly what Hitler considered riff raff...Gypsies, people with mental and/or physical issues, people with Down's Syndrome, homosexuals, anyone who disagreed withhis ideals, religious objectors such as Jehovah's Witnesses and more........

I'm confused are you calling the statement Rot!!!! then backing up the claim??

NO !!

You said ""It looks only Jews has exclusive right on holocaust."

Well I didn't say that, nor would I.

I think the problem is that quite a few posters do not know how to use quotes properly so that a lineage of dialogue can be seen and responded to properly.

See the way I read it was that
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"It looks only Jews has exclusive right on holocaust. What about million others including Gypsies, killed in Nazi contraindication camps? It seems they are not worth mentioning." Rot !!!!!!!!!!! Around 12 million people were slaughtered by the Nazi war machine in WW2.. Around 6 million were Jews.the rest were mainly what Hitler considered riff raff...Gypsies, people with mental and/or physical issues, people with Down's Syndrome, homosexuals, anyone who disagreed withhis ideals, religious objectors such as Jehovah's Witnesses and more........

are saying the same thing.

I think he meant to say was that when it comes to the Holocaust, the only people you really hear about being affected by it were the Jews. Kind of true.

In the main it was, that's why. Hitler set about systematically killing us off.

Now all you guys need to do is tell your buddies Abe Foxman and co. to f*ck off so we can actually get some work done together about getting rid of all the sh*te from our countries.

No idea what you are on about.

cockneydoll wrote on Aug 25^th, 2010 at 1:26pm:

"It looks only Jews has exclusive right on holocaust. What about million others including Gypsies, killed in Nazi contraindication camps? It seems they are not worth mentioning." Rot !!!!!!!!!!! Around 12 million people were slaughtered by the Nazi war machine in WW2.. Around 6 million were Jews.the rest were mainly what Hitler considered riff raff...Gypsies, people with mental and/or physical issues, people with Down's Syndrome, homosexuals, anyone who disagreed withhis ideals, religious objectors such as Jehovah's Witnesses and more........

What about 30 million Russians killed in second world war.
Are their lives less worth than 4 million Jews?.

aikmann4 wrote on Aug 25^th, 2010 at 3:35pm:

I think he meant to say was that when it comes to the Holocaust, the only people you really hear about being affected by it were the Jews. Kind of true.

I hear about the gays, gypsies etc too. I think the Jews outnumbered them by a lot, so their plight has come to symbolise that kind of evil. That's all.

athos wrote on Aug 25^th, 2010 at 6:59pm:

cockneydoll wrote on Aug 25th, 2010 at 1:26pm: "It looks only Jews has exclusive right on holocaust. What about million others including Gypsies, killed in Nazi contraindication camps? It seems they are not worth mentioning." Rot !!!!!!!!!!! Around 12 million people were slaughtered by the Nazi war machine in WW2.. Around 6 million were Jews.the rest were mainly what Hitler considered riff raff...Gypsies, people with mental and/or physical issues, people with Down's Syndrome, homosexuals, anyone who disagreed withhis ideals, religious objectors such as Jehovah's Witnesses and more........ What about 30 million Russians killed in second world war. Are their lives less worth than 4 million Jews?.

Big difference 20 million Russian men under arms were killed  fighting

6 million Jews were systematically murdered

It might sound really bad,
but ...
Hitler did to the Jews
what the Jews did to Jesus
(remember - Ali said to Tyson "Get em for me")

...send em back to India via Turkey and maybe they might be able to steal some of those millions of dollars that their government spends and supports in paying Cricketers like Symonds (don't call me Monkey)
while millions starve to death or survive via rubbish heaps and breaking bones in the name of 'professional' begging. The Caste system is totally barbaric too!
Far worse than any Apartheid, etc.

Anyway, I'm sure the Moslems will be pissed when the French kick out two-thirds of their population.

athos wrote on Aug 25^th, 2010 at 6:59pm:

cockneydoll wrote on Aug 25th, 2010 at 1:26pm: "It looks only Jews has exclusive right on holocaust. What about million others including Gypsies, killed in Nazi contraindication camps? It seems they are not worth mentioning." Rot !!!!!!!!!!! Around 12 million people were slaughtered by the Nazi war machine in WW2.. Around 6 million were Jews.the rest were mainly what Hitler considered riff raff...Gypsies, people with mental and/or physical issues, people with Down's Syndrome, homosexuals, anyone who disagreed withhis ideals, religious objectors such as Jehovah's Witnesses and more........ What about 30 million Russians killed in second world war. Are their lives less worth than 4 million Jews?.

Yes.

cockneydoll wrote on Aug 25^th, 2010 at 1:26pm:

"It looks only Jews has exclusive right on holocaust. What about million others including Gypsies, killed in Nazi contraindication camps? It seems they are not worth mentioning." Rot !!!!!!!!!!! Around 12 million people were slaughtered by the Nazi war machine in WW2.. Around 6 million were Jews.the rest were mainly what Hitler considered riff raff...Gypsies, people with mental and/or physical issues, people with Down's Syndrome, homosexuals, anyone who disagreed withhis ideals, religious objectors such as Jehovah's Witnesses and more........

So you are saying that only Jews were real humans who died in concentration camps and all others were subhumans like idiots, retards and so on who deserved to be killed?

Considering what's happening to Palestinians at the moment I am not
surprised surprised with this Zio Nazi ideology of yours.

Don't think you can read.

I also think you need to look at what is going on in...I think you mean Gaza.  When I get time I'll tell you.

As to ""Palestinians"  who do you mean..Arabs, Jews, Bedouins or Christians?

There is no country called Palestine..it's a region

athos wrote on Aug 26^th, 2010 at 9:28am:

Considering what's happening to Palestinians at the moment I am not surprised surprised with this Zio Nazi ideology of yours.

That's what it has been all along for you, isn't it?

athos wrote on Aug 26^th, 2010 at 9:28am:

cockneydoll wrote on Aug 25th, 2010 at 1:26pm: "It looks only Jews has exclusive right on holocaust. What about million others including Gypsies, killed in Nazi contraindication camps? It seems they are not worth mentioning." Rot !!!!!!!!!!! Around 12 million people were slaughtered by the Nazi war machine in WW2.. Around 6 million were Jews.the rest were mainly what Hitler considered riff raff...Gypsies, people with mental and/or physical issues, people with Down's Syndrome, homosexuals, anyone who disagreed withhis ideals, religious objectors such as Jehovah's Witnesses and more........ Considering what's happening to Palestinians at the moment I am not surprised surprised with this Zio Nazi ideology of yours.

So what do you think is happening to 'Palestinians' at the moment?

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 26^th, 2010 at 2:55pm:

athos wrote on Aug 26th, 2010 at 9:28am: cockneydoll wrote on Aug 25th, 2010 at 1:26pm: "It looks only Jews has exclusive right on holocaust. What about million others including Gypsies, killed in Nazi contraindication camps? It seems they are not worth mentioning." Rot !!!!!!!!!!! Around 12 million people were slaughtered by the Nazi war machine in WW2.. Around 6 million were Jews.the rest were mainly what Hitler considered riff raff...Gypsies, people with mental and/or physical issues, people with Down's Syndrome, homosexuals, anyone who disagreed withhis ideals, religious objectors such as Jehovah's Witnesses and more........ Considering what's happening to Palestinians at the moment I am not surprised surprised with this Zio Nazi ideology of yours. So what do you think is happening to 'Palestinians' at the moment?

ARROGANT GENOCIDE

athos wrote on Aug 26^th, 2010 at 7:02pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Aug 26th, 2010 at 2:55pm: athos wrote on Aug 26th, 2010 at 9:28am: cockneydoll wrote on Aug 25th, 2010 at 1:26pm: "It looks only Jews has exclusive right on holocaust. What about million others including Gypsies, killed in Nazi contraindication camps? It seems they are not worth mentioning." Rot !!!!!!!!!!! Around 12 million people were slaughtered by the Nazi war machine in WW2.. Around 6 million were Jews.the rest were mainly what Hitler considered riff raff...Gypsies, people with mental and/or physical issues, people with Down's Syndrome, homosexuals, anyone who disagreed withhis ideals, religious objectors such as Jehovah's Witnesses and more........ Considering what's happening to Palestinians at the moment I am not surprised surprised with this Zio Nazi ideology of yours. So what do you think is happening to 'Palestinians' at the moment? ARROGANT GENOCIDE

Muslims under Israeli jurisdiction have more civil rights than anywhere in the Mulism world. How many jewish members of parliament are there in muslim countries? Or Non-muslim, for that matter.  The Knesset has Muslim Arab members. There is a Muslim prayer space in the Knesset.


Athos, you are full of merda.

What's
"ARROGANT GENOCIDE"?

This should be a good one.... !!

cockneydoll wrote on Aug 26^th, 2010 at 8:57pm:

What's "ARROGANT GENOCIDE"? This should be a good one.... !!

It's something typed forcefully in caps lock and boldface, which indicates that it has to mean something substantial.

You should post the words to the song.


Some talk of Alexander,
And some of Hercules
Of Hector and Lysander,
And such great names as these.
|: But of all the world's great heroes,
There's none that can compare
With a tow, row, row, row, row, row,
To the British Grenadier.

Can you please tell me how to add a personalised picture?

Go to the top bar and click profile. Then click the profile button in the top bar of the page that comes up. Then options. Type in your password then you can put your avatar in. Say you want to put this as your avatar:

http://www.gifs.net/Animation11/Religious/Jewish/Star_of_David_6.gif

Copy the URL of the image (URL means link), as in:

http://www.gifs.net/Animation11/Religious/Jewish/Star_of_David_6.gif

Put it in the "I have my own pic" box, tick the box, then save changes.

Your magan Dovid is good, but I have tried what you suggest and it doesn't work for me

I'll give it another go..thanks

Worked for me. What happened when you tried to do it?

Oi vey!

Nah.. no luck

Try this...........gornish

Hang on I am just going to try something

cockneydoll wrote on Aug 26^th, 2010 at 9:24pm:

Your magan Dovid is good, but I have tried what you suggest and it doesn't work for me I'll give it another go..thanks

Is it possible, Shirl, that you have your pic saved in an invalid file format - and/or that the file size is larger than the site limit!?

http://i38.tinypic.com/epqgx0.jpg
Click profile.

http://i33.tinypic.com/t02e13.jpg
Then click this profile box, then edit options.

http://i33.tinypic.com/27140.jpg

Put in the link to the image. It has to be a direct link to the image and it has to be online. I don't think there's a size limit (it resizes large images).

Just checked your link and I see you just have a page with the gif and nothing else.

By the way.........I do know what a URL is. !! I have been on the internet since its inception in Australia

My first computer, pre-internet, had to the best of my memory, about 200MBs RAM. Early days I had about 50 MBs a month from Ozemail on 56kbps. It was great fun. I have a few friends overseas still on dial-up

I have done what you said... I have been trying it for weeks, all to no avail

I will give something else a go. I have what I want to use on my profile elsewhere. I will try that URL

I have done what you said... I have been trying it for weeks, all to no avail

I will give something else a go. I have what I want to use on my profile elsewhere. I will try that URL

Jews, Moslems
...Islam, Israel.
We all know they will Unite
and get those Italians. ;)

It's easy to think the Jews are overplaying the victim thing, until you stumble across people like Mel Gibson.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/features/mad-as-a-hutton/story-e6frg8h6-1225906874255

YOUR choice of toxic sludges: overnight the poison pouring from Mel Gibson's mouth had pushed the oil spilling from BP's well out of the news. Every channel was channelling his rant, bringing back memories of previous rants rancid with anti-Semitism.

As I wrote at the time, Mel is as mad as a Hutton. It all begins with his father, for whom Mel seems to be a ventriloquial doll. One of the world’s leading Holocaust deniers, Hutton Gibson is a spectacularly unpleasant man – as I discovered when a reader sent me some bootleg tapes of Australian sermons. His voice is chilling, the same sort of cold certainties you get from bin Laden. Sharing the hatred of Jews that echoes from caves in Afghanistan, Hutton also directs his loathing to the Catholic Church. A fundamentalist in his faith, Hutton regards the modern Vatican as a cesspit of heresy and the Pope, despite his enthusiasm for Opus Dei, as the anti-Christ.

Young Mel inherited the family heirloom of Hutton’s hatreds. Echoed them in that epic of religious porn, The Passion of The Christ, complete with its hook-nosed Christ-killers. But, of course, the same madness gave Mel a cutting edge worthy of a chainsaw massacre. From The Road Warrior to The Woad Warrior (my preferred title for Braveheart), young Gibson’s performances have been defined by derangement. From his cold sadism in Mad Max to Edge of Darkness, Gibson teeters on the brink, and jumps off.

In Shakespeare’s Hamlet the prince feigns madness. In Gibson’s Hamlet he is mad. Stark raving. Ditto for his interpretation of Fletcher Christian. Where it’s traditional for actors to play the captain as a raging despot, Anthony Hopkins’ Bligh seemed sweetly reasonable beside Gibson’s tantrum-tosser. Mel on the verge of a grand mal, frothing and fulminating. This is not merely Mel’s shtick, what made his career; it is his essence as a man.

I have vivid memories of Mel as a young actor. Even sitting in a cafe or at Mascot waiting for a flight to Melbourne, the little bloke would seem to be silently seething. I don’t know about the other 10 children (plus 48 grandchildren), but Mel is his father’s son. The Holocaust is a hoax, says Hutton. How could the Nazis have disposed of six million bodies? Vatican II was “a Masonic plot backed by the Jews”. Pope Benedict XVI is gay. And 9/11? Another hoax. Who then? How? Not by al-Qa'ida, says Hutton, but by remote control. No humans on board the planes – “anyone can put out a passenger list”. Little wonder Mel was so convincing in Conspiracy Theory.

Hutton believes there were more Jews in Europe after the war – that the millions claimed to be dead simply moved to other countries. And in a rag-bag collection of other ideas... the American states should secede from the Union; the US should simply cancel its national debt; millions of Americans are being stolen by UFOs… Well, no, I made that last one up. That’s what millions of other Americans believe.

Listening to Hutton’s sermons, words as lethal weapons, I was painfully aware that he was brilliant. A first-class intelligence used to bolster bigotry, religious mania and a plethora of nutty theories. Little wonder he was a big winner in quiz shows. Not quite a Barry Jones, but in the major league. And he’s given his movie star son all the answers. Mel funds his father’s World Faith Foundation and bought him his own church in California. The father, the son and the unholy spirit of hatred. The poor kid never had a chance.

Wow FD...I never knew all that..

It does go a long way to explain Mel's various rants though.....

Poor little Mel,
he reminds me of Hitler
...just sticking up for his big brother Jesus.

(much like little Mike Tyson does for the bigger Mohammed Ali)

much like any Prophet does for a slain Messiah.

Jesus's last words: "Wait till me little brother Hitler gets his hands on yas!" (croak).

...so, does anyone here want do die upon the Southern Cross?
I'm sure we can hook you up with two other crosses (PNG & NZ) on either side so you can sing "Always look on the bright side of life"
;D

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Aug 28^th, 2010 at 5:46am:

Poor little Mel, he reminds me of Hitler

Tell me than What does Hollywood remind you on?
Maybe on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish-American_organized_crime

Hollywood reminds me of a peice of Silver that is lost from Mexico and lays upon a boardwalk in California - unfounded.
But thats the legend of...
Silverado.
;)

...I think Hollywood will fade and something in Central America will rise and shine far more than Hollywood ever did.
("Hi ho Silver ...and away!")

That is very interesting.

Of course everything he has to say about Russian women is completely true.