Really? ask yourself. Do these monkeys deserve another term? Scandal after scandal. Back stab after back stab. I'm sorry. I am dedicated to labor and I will be working hard to get them re-elected, but my heart won't be in it.

NSW should be a lesson in the AMAZING incompetency of labor governments everywhere, if this dysfunctional labor government is relected labor will move us backwards like it is in NSW,

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The NSW government has gone way past being either Liberal or Labor.
They are nothing more than a corrupt plutocracy and should be imprisioned or better yet hung from the streetlights lining Macquarie St.

stryder wrote on Aug 9^th, 2010 at 8:44pm:

NSW should be a lesson in the AMAZING incompetency of labor governments everywhere, if this dysfunctional labor government is relected labor will move us backwards like it is in NSW, .

While I agree with you that the nsw government is incompetent, Fed and other states should not be infected with the same poison that NSW is.

james -
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Really? ask yourself. Do these monkeys deserve another term? Scandal after scandal. Back stab after back stab. I'm sorry. I am dedicated to labor and I will be working hard to get them re-elected, but my heart won't be in it.

that's a most unusual thing to say.

well, for a lefty, probably not.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 10^th, 2010 at 8:21am:

james - Quote: Really? ask yourself. Do these monkeys deserve another term? Scandal after scandal. Back stab after back stab. I'm sorry. I am dedicated to labor and I will be working hard to get them re-elected, but my heart won't be in it. that's a most unusual thing to say. well, for a lefty, probably not.

Waiting for someone to say that. I am hoping to become a member of Young Labor.

The NSW government has gone way past being either Liberal or Labor.
They are nothing more than a corrupt plutocracy and should be imprisioned or better yet hung from the streetlights lining Macquarie St.
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I agree.


And I often wonder if many of these  ministes or members  get into  politics, not even worried WHICH party they stand for,  because  they just seek the power of the ‘popular party’.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Aug 9^th, 2010 at 8:54pm:

The NSW government has gone way past being either Liberal or Labor. They are nothing more than a corrupt plutocracy and should be imprisioned or better yet hung from the streetlights lining Macquarie St.

NSW has unfortunately been plagued with corrupt state governments since the time of Captain Bligh, so it may be time for another Rum Rebellion.

Contrary to the cynical stupidity of right wing pundits, this propensity for corruption in NSW is totally Bipartisan,and just another reason why we should all work to try and rid our country of the state system, and change to a two tiered federal and Regional System.

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just another reason why we should all work to try and rid our country of the state system, and change to a two tiered federal and Regional System

So true. But how do we do it, how do you rid the country of state governments?
The problem is that Australia only exists as federation because of the states.

james - all the best on your endeavours.

I think the QLD govt is about as bad as the NSW one.
when Joh was here, we had NO debt.

James Bluntus wrote on Aug 10^th, 2010 at 9:43am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 10th, 2010 at 8:21am: james - Quote: Really? ask yourself. Do these monkeys deserve another term? Scandal after scandal. Back stab after back stab. I'm sorry. I am dedicated to labor and I will be working hard to get them re-elected, but my heart won't be in it. that's a most unusual thing to say. well, for a lefty, probably not. Waiting for someone to say that. I am hoping to become a member of Young Labor.

Just pay them the fee & your in ;D

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 10^th, 2010 at 10:15am:

james - all the best on your endeavours. I think the QLD govt is about as bad as the NSW one. when Joh was here, we had NO debt.

Thanks. A bit P'ed off to be honest. NSW Young Labor doesn't want new members. I've sent them 3 emails and they haven't replied to any of them. I'll send them 1 more email and then I'll just go straight to federal labor because I'm not joining Liberal. I stand for the workers and better health services. At the moment, I feel that this state government isn't doing that.

James Bluntus wrote on Aug 10^th, 2010 at 10:40am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 10th, 2010 at 10:15am: james - all the best on your endeavours. I think the QLD govt is about as bad as the NSW one. when Joh was here, we had NO debt. Thanks. A bit P'ed off to be honest. NSW Young Labor doesn't want new members. I've sent them 3 emails and they haven't replied to any of them. I'll send them 1 more email and then I'll just go straight to federal labor because I'm not joining Liberal. I stand for the workers and better health services. At the moment, I feel that this state government isn't doing that.

Don't stuff around in the "Youngs" just go straight to the party & pay your membership.
Personally I'd wait until after the March state election & the purging that will go on after that.
NSW Labor will be looking to build from the ground up & the right faction will not have the strangle hold it does now.
You'll have more chance of reforming the party then as opposed to now & you won't be tainted by the criminals in there now.
Good Luck great to see a young person wanting to be involved. :)

James Bluntus wrote on Aug 10^th, 2010 at 10:40am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 10th, 2010 at 10:15am: james - all the best on your endeavours. I think the QLD govt is about as bad as the NSW one. when Joh was here, we had NO debt. Thanks. A bit P'ed off to be honest. NSW Young Labor doesn't want new members. I've sent them 3 emails and they haven't replied to any of them. I'll send them 1 more email and then I'll just go straight to federal labor because I'm not joining Liberal. I stand for the workers and better health services. At the moment, I feel that this state government isn't doing that.

So WHY would YOU then want to join them?

HEllO, anyone home?

::)

james - your ideals are good
IF the alp DID help the workers, that'ld be good.
they say they do, but they don't.


often people politically immaturely start of with the left.
As they mature and gain wisdom, they move to the right

the LIBS do more for the common worker

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 10^th, 2010 at 10:58am:

james - your ideals are good IF the alp DID help the workers, that'ld be good. they say they do, but they don't. often people politically immaturely start of with the left. As they mature and gain wisdom, they move to the right the LIBS do more for the common worker

Exactly. I'll repeat what, I think it was Brendon Nelson? said, Liberal is more labor then they are now. I'm a lefty, hence the reason why I am going to join the labor party.

James Bluntus wrote on Aug 9^th, 2010 at 8:38pm:

Really? ask yourself. Do these monkeys deserve another term? Scandal after scandal. Back stab after back stab. I'm sorry. I am dedicated to labor and I will be working hard to get them re-elected, but my heart won't be in it.

It should be about balance!

In the current system, there are excesses from day one, in both major Political party's.

That said, as time goes bye, the excesses of the various party's grow, as do the imbalances in the system, as those party's apply more party ideolgy, less common sense and greed becomes more pervasive.

The wash up, is that after a while it becomes pretty obvious (at least to me), that change is needed, as I believe it was in 1983, 1993 and around 2004, in the Federal arena.

In terms of NSW, it is difficult to see how Labor could be or should be re-elected at the next state election!

perceptions_now wrote on Aug 10^th, 2010 at 12:00pm:

James Bluntus wrote on Aug 9th, 2010 at 8:38pm: Really? ask yourself. Do these monkeys deserve another term? Scandal after scandal. Back stab after back stab. I'm sorry. I am dedicated to labor and I will be working hard to get them re-elected, but my heart won't be in it. It should be about balance! In the current system, there are excesses from day one, in both major Political party's. That said, as time goes bye, the excesses of the various party's grow, as do the imbalances in the system, as those party's apply more party ideolgy, less common sense and greed becomes more pervasive. The wash up, is that after a while it becomes pretty obvious (at least to me), that change is needed, as I believe it was in 1983, 1993 and around 2004, in the Federal arena. In terms of NSW, it is difficult to see how Labor could be or should be re-elected at the next state election!

That is the same point of view that I am taking. As I said in another thread, I am thinking about skipping NSW and going straight to Young Australian Labor.