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General Discussion >> Federal Politics >> Unemployment 5% and steady http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1281330745 Message started by skippy. on Aug 9th, 2010 at 3:12pm |
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Title: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by skippy. on Aug 9th, 2010 at 3:12pm
Just another reason not to risk a Liberal government.
That should be 5.1% and steady. Quote:
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by iamtheman012 on Aug 9th, 2010 at 3:23pm skippy. wrote on Aug 9th, 2010 at 3:12pm:
And you're basing that claim on WHAT Skippy? Nice Link BTW. LOL. ::) |
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by skippy. on Aug 9th, 2010 at 3:43pm
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/business/breaking-news/jobs-ads-rise-13-per-cent-in-july-anz-job-ads-survey/story-e6freuyr-1225902953969
There's your link precious. As for my claim? I assume you mean the 5.1% and steady? thats not my claim sweet thing, its the opinion of the ABS read the last paragraph. :o |
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by iamtheman012 on Aug 9th, 2010 at 3:51pm skippy. wrote on Aug 9th, 2010 at 3:43pm:
Christ YOU really are thick, do you read what YOU write? Here is YOUR claim that i was referring to: Quote:
As i said earlier, comprehension is NOT your STRONG point. LOL. ::) |
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by skippy. on Aug 9th, 2010 at 3:55pm Quote:
I would have thought that was obvious even to a person of your limited talents. :D |
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by vegitamite on Aug 9th, 2010 at 3:55pm You know we not long ago had an article in our local paper. Talking how good the School program did for our local business and tradesman. Then later How new health policies like the cancer clinic and now the super clinic have had in our neglected are. Plus retail businesses from the stimulus has boosted our area In so many ways. An area that has had one of the highest unemployment and other negative statistics... WELL DONE LABOR ( and all this in a Liberal safe seat.) The Labor government has NOT had the recognition - that it deserves. We have always been left behind. Again Thankyou !! |
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by iamtheman012 on Aug 9th, 2010 at 3:58pm skippy. wrote on Aug 9th, 2010 at 3:55pm:
So you clearly have NOTHING to back it up? No surprise there really, it is YOU making the claim after all. LOL. :o |
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by iamtheman012 on Aug 9th, 2010 at 4:02pm wrote on Aug 9th, 2010 at 3:55pm:
Vegetable, WHY are you thanking Labor for neglecting this area? Surely even YOU know that NSW is a Labor state? ::) |
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by skippy. on Aug 9th, 2010 at 4:10pm iamtheman012 wrote on Aug 9th, 2010 at 3:58pm:
Well Labor are achieving it already, but we dont know what the Liberals economic policies are. how could you say things will not get worse when Abbott has produced no policies on how he'll fund his government? A taskforce is very sweet but how will they fund policy? What are Abbotts economic polices? |
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by iamtheman012 on Aug 9th, 2010 at 4:15pm skippy. wrote on Aug 9th, 2010 at 4:10pm:
Here you go sunshine; http://www.liberal.org.au/~/media/Files/Policies%20and%20Media/Economy/Coaition%20Economic%20Principles%2018%20May%202010.ashx http://www.liberal.org.au/~/media/Files/Policies%20and%20Media/Coalition%20Savings%20Table%2020072010.ashx http://www.liberal.org.au/Issues/Economy.aspx |
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by skippy. on Aug 9th, 2010 at 4:29pm iamtheman012 wrote on Aug 9th, 2010 at 4:15pm:
Cute links, the first one talks about the values of being a Liberal,but no plan or costings on economics. The second contained graphs that date back to 2001,but no plan on costings of economics. The third one was the best, I'cut and pasted it to show the others here,as you can see it talks about Liberal economic policy, it says the words even, but no plan or facts on what costs will be cut where or what they will do to finance their government. Quote:
I must need to ask the question in a more simple manner, what new taxes or cuts to current policy will the Libs make to finance their budget? is that clear enough? |
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by iamtheman012 on Aug 9th, 2010 at 4:32pm skippy. wrote on Aug 9th, 2010 at 4:29pm:
I must need to ask the question in a more simple manner, what new taxes or cuts to current policy will the Libs make to finance their budget? is that clear enough? [/quote] ARE YOU REALLY THAT STUPID SKIPPY? Surely the wording in the second link would give that away? 'Coalition Savings Table.' http://www.liberal.org.au/~/media/Files/Policies%20and%20Media/Coalition%20Savings%20Table%2020072010.ashx You really are a JOKE sunshine, a dumb f_cking joke. ::) |
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by skippy. on Aug 9th, 2010 at 4:36pm
Where are the savings? what are they cutting? you cant answer it because they dont even know until they have a taskforce if elected to work out what to do.
Its all well and good to talk the talk but where's the money coming from? drop the abuse and answer the question, if its that simple why do you and every other Liberal supporter refuse to provide the facts, go post em up sunshine, the facts on what Abbott will cut or what taxes will increase to fund his policies,thanks, I wont hold my breath though. |
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by iamtheman012 on Aug 9th, 2010 at 4:39pm skippy. wrote on Aug 9th, 2010 at 4:36pm:
Open your eyes and look at the second link again you dumb prick, IT"S ALL THERE. http://www.liberal.org.au/~/media/Files/Policies%20and%20Media/Coalition%20Savings%20Table%2020072010.ashx You are unbelievably DUMB mate. ::) |
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by skippy. on Aug 9th, 2010 at 4:42pm
I cant read it post it up for all of us to look at, go on, you're so proud of it, and you say it explains everything I've been asking for six days does it? great bring it on, if its that good and totally costed you might even change some peoples vote.
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by iamtheman012 on Aug 9th, 2010 at 4:44pm skippy. wrote on Aug 9th, 2010 at 4:42pm:
You can't read it? FFS loser, download Adobe Reader. What kind of simpleton doesn'thave Adobe on their system? And you claim to be a Uni student, LOL what bullsh_t. ::) |
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by skippy. on Aug 9th, 2010 at 4:49pm
Come on this is what everyone including all the press have been asking for for weeks now and you say its all there on the website, come on enlighten us.
I'm sooooooooooo surprised nobody else has posted it up if its there for all to see, why didn't you post it last week when none of the other Liberal supporters could post up one costed policy, oh well, you've found it now , so please post it up for all to see, this things like the bloody holy grail. |
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by skippy. on Aug 9th, 2010 at 4:51pm
I have adobe, how do you think I knew it was a graph that dates back to 2001?, go on post it up, why are you afraid to post it up? LOL
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by iamtheman012 on Aug 9th, 2010 at 4:53pm skippy. wrote on Aug 9th, 2010 at 4:49pm:
I've posted the link THREE times now. The second link was a graph? LOL, now you're justing digging a deeper hole moron. I expect you to run off soon with your tail between your legs as per normal. ::) |
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by iamtheman012 on Aug 9th, 2010 at 4:56pm
Come on Skip, what's this 'Graph' on the second link YOU speak of?
LOL. :D |
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by skippy. on Aug 9th, 2010 at 5:01pm
Thanks
Is that it? so thats how the coalition are going to finance their entire budget? with those cuts and thats it? |
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by skippy. on Aug 9th, 2010 at 5:03pm iamtheman012 wrote on Aug 9th, 2010 at 4:53pm:
Sorry it was a chart that dated back to 2001,but you knew that. |
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by iamtheman012 on Aug 9th, 2010 at 5:03pm skippy. wrote on Aug 9th, 2010 at 5:01pm:
So YOU admit you're a LIAR Skippy? :o |
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by skippy. on Aug 9th, 2010 at 5:05pm
and its gone
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by iamtheman012 on Aug 9th, 2010 at 5:05pm skippy. wrote on Aug 9th, 2010 at 5:03pm:
You really are a dumb one Skippy, WHERE on the second link does it even mention '2001'? ::) |
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by skippy. on Aug 9th, 2010 at 5:06pm iamtheman012 wrote on Aug 9th, 2010 at 5:03pm:
How so? because I called a chart a graph? LOL |
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by iamtheman012 on Aug 9th, 2010 at 5:07pm skippy. wrote on Aug 9th, 2010 at 5:06pm:
Because YOU claimed it was a 'graph' dating back to '2001'. WHERE does it mention 2001? LOL, you are a pathetic LIAR. ::) |
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by iamtheman012 on Aug 9th, 2010 at 5:09pm skippy. wrote on Aug 9th, 2010 at 5:06pm:
Skippy you're 'dyslexic' aren't YOU? LOL. ;D |
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by skippy. on Aug 9th, 2010 at 5:11pm iamtheman012 wrote on Aug 9th, 2010 at 5:05pm:
No you're right I missread it, it says 2010/11 Now we have all the crap out of the way, are you telling me this is how Abbott will fund his budget? JUST THIS? as if it wasn't bad enough, I knew he was a climate confusionalist but on the chart that you posted he will cut all funding to anything GREEN. |
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by Equitist on Aug 9th, 2010 at 5:11pm I agree that the text version is too difficult to read - so I have taken the trouble of taking screen shots of the PDF file, which I shall now post in 3 posts (which is the best workaround I can be bothered to do on this)... Here goes... 1/3 Coalition_Savings_Measures_1of3.JPG (96 KB | 44
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by Equitist on Aug 9th, 2010 at 5:12pm 2/3 Coalition_Savings_Measures_2of3.JPG (93 KB | 42
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by vegitamite on Aug 9th, 2010 at 5:13pm
Vegetable, WHY are you thanking Labor for neglecting this area? Surely even YOU know that NSW is a Labor state?
===================== Well iamathemoron it just shows that a -or The - Federal Government can override the States and get things done. What , then , was Howard's excuse ?? :-* |
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by Equitist on Aug 9th, 2010 at 5:13pm 3/3 Coalition_Savings_Measures_3of3.JPG (85 KB | 41
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by iamtheman012 on Aug 9th, 2010 at 5:15pm skippy. wrote on Aug 9th, 2010 at 5:11pm:
So you ARE 'dyslexic', LOL i knew it. Have the 'Green' policies you speak of are a total waste of time and money anyway and should be cut. Take the 'Greenstart' program for instance, WHAT will that achieve? Bugger all. And FYI, it's a sh_tload more info than what the ALP's website has to offer. ::) |
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by vegitamite on Aug 9th, 2010 at 5:16pm
I forgot to add in my last piece that Im sure in the following future local paper there will be a positive wrap on the commonewealth Housing which has started in many locations in our shire.\also.
Shame the MSM doesn't do positive Headlines. No wonder people are depressed . |
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by skippy. on Aug 9th, 2010 at 5:19pm
Thanks for that Equitist, I know why Iamtheman ddin't want to post it up himself.
I've gotta run, but theres some interesting cuts in there that people need to know about. |
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by iamtheman012 on Aug 9th, 2010 at 5:22pm skippy. wrote on Aug 9th, 2010 at 5:19pm:
What a surprise, run off as per usual wimp. You’re a bloody dyslexic little mincer. AND it is actually easier to read the links i provided. FYI that info has been available for ALL to see for some time, YOU are clearly to thick to know WHERE to look. ;D |
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by skippy. on Aug 9th, 2010 at 5:25pm
Oh dont worry I'll be back, we need to go through all those cuts to health and education,not to mention anything to do with the enviroment ,human rights et al.
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by iamtheman012 on Aug 9th, 2010 at 5:27pm skippy. wrote on Aug 9th, 2010 at 5:25pm:
I look forward to MORE lies from you Skip. :-* |
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by perceptions_now on Aug 9th, 2010 at 6:09pm
Total - Savings (In $ Millions)
3800 - PS Temporary Recruitment Freeze 652.5 - Cut Renewable Energy Future Fund 1700 - Lowering the company tax rate 1435 - State Infrastructure Fund 830 - Government super contributions tax rebate for low income earners 950 - 50% Discount on Interest Income 410 - Standard deduction for work-related expenses There could be some interest in some of the Liberal saving, including the above, not all of which will be positive. That said, savings in various areas are going to be a must, but they will need to come with the least possible impact on the Publics disposable income, productivity and the transition away from Fossil fuels! |
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by longweekend58 on Aug 10th, 2010 at 10:02am
And if we go back to 2007 we find the unemployment rate at 4% and DROPPING.
now what are you boasting about again??? |
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by vegitamite on Aug 10th, 2010 at 10:16am
And if we go back to 2007 we find the unemployment rate at 4% and DROPPING.
now what are you boasting about again ======= One would think that it is Easier to create employment in Boom times but harder in times of bust... |
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by skippy. on Aug 10th, 2010 at 10:20am wrote on Aug 10th, 2010 at 10:16am:
Not to mention workchoices, more jobs for less conditions/ pay, thats the Liberal way. I'll take the 5% with fair pay and conditions thanks very much. 8-) |
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by iamtheman012 on Aug 10th, 2010 at 10:24am wrote on Aug 10th, 2010 at 10:16am:
Yet some on here still claim that the unemployment rate is lower now than in 2007, these are the same people that claim interest rates are lower now due to 'superior economic management'. LOL. Hint, Hint. ::) |
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by longweekend58 on Aug 10th, 2010 at 10:26am wrote on Aug 10th, 2010 at 10:16am:
LOL so NOW you want context???? |
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by longweekend58 on Aug 10th, 2010 at 10:27am skippy. wrote on Aug 10th, 2010 at 10:20am:
You'd haev a good point if it were accurate - but it isnt. at the time, wages were at record REAL highs and unemployment at record lows! and btw - you'vew obviously never been long-term unemployed. if you think the 1% extra unemplyed are getting any joy out of your ridiciulous comment then you are wrong. |
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by vegitamite on Aug 10th, 2010 at 10:32am
Alone, by Abbott stopping the BER ( so we will have what un finished school buildings,now , and Abbott with a plagua say I stoppped this on the school hall.ha)
Abbott's hit list will also see him scrap the national broadband network, cut migration numbers by at least 100,000, cancel the further roll-out of Gillard's trades training centres and stop her computers-in-schools program.. All of these and more create employment. Yes Abbott will send these people now of to the Green training camps.. |
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by vegitamite on Aug 10th, 2010 at 10:36am
Add these people to that growing Abbott's Unemployed Green Training , quarantine payment ,group.
'Abbott also would scrap Rudd's Community Cabinet meetings, axe the global carbon capture and storage institute, abolish the petrol commissioner, cancel the bid for the United Nations Security Council and not replace public servants with desk jobs who retire or quit.' |
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by vegitamite on Aug 10th, 2010 at 10:37am
'Abbott's pledge on WorkChoices ("it's dead, buried, cremated") is a copy of John Howard's promise in 1996 to not touch Medicare after he had said in the 1980s he would "stab it in the stomach".'
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by longweekend58 on Aug 10th, 2010 at 10:40am wrote on Aug 10th, 2010 at 10:37am:
and last I heard, he honoured that promise or has Medicare gone now and I msised it? |
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by skippy. on Aug 10th, 2010 at 10:46am Quote:
Maybe the 1% more unemployed are not joyfull about not having a job, but they along with the people who are working are very joyfull that workchoices was abolished by Labor and that they now earn a fair days pay for a fair days work. Just seeing you salivate at the word"workchoices" shows why the likes of you and the party you support are so out of touch. |
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by vegitamite on Aug 10th, 2010 at 11:04am
'Abbott's pledge on WorkChoices ("it's dead, buried, cremated") is a copy of John Howard's promise in 1996 to not touch Medicare after he had said in the 1980s he would "stab it in the stomach".'
================== That was only half of my comment . I am dealing with some glitches I have noticed. Not sure why- some of my posts & comments are not coming through correctly. |
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by Sappho on Aug 10th, 2010 at 12:40pm longweekend58 wrote on Aug 10th, 2010 at 10:27am:
Just a personal observation... as a public servant I enjoyed higher wage rises under Liberal than I have under Labor. As to work choices vs fairwork... Under liberals there was no arbitrary productivity scheme which sees favoured workers with more and those who work harder and evidence that hard work across all levels, but who are not favoured, not receive their due productivity rise. No... I'm not voting Liberal by the way... but then I'm not voting Labor either. |
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Title: Re: Unemployment 5% and steady Post by mellie on Aug 10th, 2010 at 12:47pm
Youth unemployment is worse now than it's been in decades under a Labor government.
With youth unemployment comes increased crime stats. Labor cant tuck away to bed this 'growing' concern forever now can they? Our statistics are somewhat scant, due to Labor having withdrawn much of their ABS funding. |
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