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Message started by frenchyjen70 on Aug 7th, 2010 at 12:06pm

Title: I'm ashamed of the WEL
Post by frenchyjen70 on Aug 7th, 2010 at 12:06pm
One of the founding members of the Women's Electoral Lobby (Wendy McCarthy) came out on the ABC this week and said that women must vote for Julia Gillard as she was female and you can't have a male PM being the leader for 51% of the population.
No mention of the policies or performances of either leader/party.
I am so ashamed of the narrowminded sexist attitude of the WEL , sorry.


Title: Re: I'm ashamed of the WEL
Post by aussiefree2ride on Aug 7th, 2010 at 12:16pm
I`m not ashamed of male peadophiles, wife bashers etc., because they don`t represent me in even the slightest degree.

Title: Re: I'm ashamed of the WEL
Post by life_goes_on on Aug 7th, 2010 at 12:36pm
Wendy McCarthy is not a current member of the WEL.

Title: Re: I'm ashamed of the WEL
Post by aussiefree2ride on Aug 7th, 2010 at 12:41pm
Can anyone else see the Irony and sexism even the name of this organisation displays?

Title: Re: I'm ashamed of the WEL
Post by nichy on Aug 7th, 2010 at 4:45pm
The problem is, aussiefree2ride, a lot of gullible women fall for what they say.  They have quite a lot of power for the relatively few women they represent.

Title: Re: I'm ashamed of the WEL
Post by vegitamite on Aug 7th, 2010 at 5:22pm
That is just as bad as the Priests in Church telling the congregation to vote for the Christian - Abbott

Title: Re: I'm ashamed of the WEL
Post by nichy on Aug 7th, 2010 at 5:25pm
vegitamite -  I go to church,  never have the proests told us who to vote for.  In fact many of them would lean towards Labor.  

It's not good to make things up.

Title: Re: I'm ashamed of the WEL
Post by mantra on Aug 7th, 2010 at 8:22pm

nichy wrote on Aug 7th, 2010 at 5:25pm:
vegitamite -  I go to church,  never have the proests told us who to vote for.  In fact many of them would lean towards Labor.  

It's not good to make things up.


I doubt the Hillsong promoters would have any qualms about pushing their congregation to vote for the Coalition. They loved Howard and Costello preaching for profit at their auditorium.

The Catholic Church also has been recently promised by Christopher Pyne that their funding would be continued at the healthy rate they enjoyed under the Coalition if they won.

Incredible how these religious organisations earn hefty profits, pay no tax yet demand their schools are publicly funded.


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Can anyone else see the Irony and sexism even the name of this organisation displays?


It's easy to see the sexism that also exists outside this organistion in regard to having a female PM. No male leader would have to go through the crap that Gillard has endured since she became PM.

Title: Re: I'm ashamed of the WEL
Post by Lisa on Aug 7th, 2010 at 8:30pm

frenchyjen70 wrote on Aug 7th, 2010 at 12:06pm:
One of the founding members of the Women's Electoral Lobby (Wendy McCarthy) came out on the ABC this week and said that women must vote for Julia Gillard as she was female and you can't have a male PM being the leader for 51% of the population.
No mention of the policies or performances of either leader/party.
I am so ashamed of the narrowminded sexist attitude of the WEL , sorry.


Why say sorry??

And what sane and sensible woman would vote for a PM based on gender alone??


Title: Re: I'm ashamed of the WEL
Post by vegitamite on Aug 7th, 2010 at 8:33pm
It's not good to make things up.
===================

Hi nichy,  :)


Im sorry but I wasnt making it up.

I actually heard on ABC AM radio during last  week they have been interviewing towns  people i in QLD. Following a campaign trail.

One lady come on who was a stout Labor supporter - until Gillard. She said that she is a strong Christian couldn't vote for Gillard and will vote for Abbott based on that. She also said her priest suggested that same thing in his last Sunday's sermon...

If the ABC am has transcripts it will be there OR anyone else that listens would have heard the same....


Title: Re: I'm ashamed of the WEL
Post by deepthought on Aug 7th, 2010 at 8:41pm

mantra wrote on Aug 7th, 2010 at 8:22pm:
The Catholic Church also has been recently promised by Christopher Pyne that their funding would be continued at the healthy rate they enjoyed under the Coalition if they won.



No, that was Jules who said that.




Quote:
The Australian Online reported this morning that Ms Gillard would today cave in to the private schools lobby by extending the current funding agreement for an extra year.

Private school sources said the decision meant their current funding levels would now be guaranteed until the end of 2013 with any new model to start from 2014.


And it wasn't the coalition who set the benchmark, that was Kev.



Quote:
THE Rudd Government will deliver an estimated 32 per cent increase in funding to private schools, raising their national windfall to more than $26.2 billion over the next four years, new analysis shows.



I expect you will re-direct your venom at the right people?

Title: Re: I'm ashamed of the WEL
Post by Soren on Aug 7th, 2010 at 8:50pm

mantra wrote on Aug 7th, 2010 at 8:22pm:

nichy wrote on Aug 7th, 2010 at 5:25pm:
vegitamite -  I go to church,  never have the proests told us who to vote for.  In fact many of them would lean towards Labor.  

It's not good to make things up.


I doubt the Hillsong promoters would have any qualms about pushing their congregation to vote for the Coalition. They loved Howard and Costello preaching for profit at their auditorium.

The Catholic Church also has been recently promised by Christopher Pyne that their funding would be continued at the healthy rate they enjoyed under the Coalition if they won.

Incredible how these religious organisations earn hefty profits, pay no tax yet demand their schools are publicly funded.



How would you know?? How would you actually know, besides having read it in the papers?

Mantra, you are the kind of person, it seems to me, who will swell up with moral righteusness simply because you have read something in a newspaper or the internet. Christopher Pyne has reassured the Catholic Church of ongoing funding under the Coalition? Implying that the Catholic Chutch will throw its weight behind whoever propmises to maintain its funding?

I bet you think the da Vinci Code is investigative journalism.









Title: Re: I'm ashamed of the WEL
Post by deepthought on Aug 7th, 2010 at 9:06pm
You will be delighted to know that the ALP was even handed.  They have ensured that even those they call 'cults' have enjoyed increased funding.




Quote:
Govt increases funding to Brethren 'cult'


Prime Minister Kevin Rudd famously labelled the Exclusive Brethren (EB) a "cult" while in Opposition. But it seems that, in Government, he is more generous to the Christian sect.

Figures obtained by The Greens in Senate Estimates reveal that funding to schools run by the controversial Christian sect have increased by 50 per cent under the Rudd Government.

In 2007, EB schools were receiving just over $9 million in funding from the Howard government.

But NSW Greens MP John Kaye says funding for EB schools around Australia has risen to $13.9 million this year.

"[It is] scheduled to go to about 17.2 million by 2012," he said.

Link


And Jules looked after them with her BER Scam too.

She threw $2,000,000 at the 'cult' to build a school hall and a library.  And the school only had 16 pupils.

Oh, and it already had a library though that didn't stop Jules building them another.

Title: Re: I'm ashamed of the WEL
Post by mantra on Aug 7th, 2010 at 9:37pm
I will take all the above comments into consideration, but who started this elite school porkbarrelling? How is any other party supposed to get out of it or reduce the funding to equal that of public schools?

The churches are a major influence on our governments. God help any leader who isn't a "Christian" - whatever that's supposed to mean - regular attendance at church and lip service to their preachers I assume.


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I expect you will re-direct your venom at the right people?


I recall the screeching from the rabid right when the current government suggested removing the medicare safety net. All those in dire need of liposuction and cosmetic surgery would have been disadvantaged if that hadn't continued.


Quote:
How would you know?? How would you actually know, besides having read it in the papers?


That's where most of us get our information - just look at the thousands of extracts from "journalists' opinions" on this board alone. They are taken as gospel by many and pronounced as a true account of the government's or opposition's policies or actions.

So how can you say differently Soren? Do you know otherwise?

Title: Re: I'm ashamed of the WEL
Post by deepthought on Aug 7th, 2010 at 9:48pm

mantra wrote on Aug 7th, 2010 at 9:37pm:
I will take all the above comments into consideration, but who started this elite school porkbarrelling? How is any other party supposed to get out of it or reduce the funding to equal that of public schools?


Gough Whitlam




mantra wrote on Aug 7th, 2010 at 9:37pm:
The churches are a major influence on our governments. God help any leader who isn't a "Christian" - whatever that's supposed to mean - regular attendance at church and lip service to their preachers I assume.



Is that why Jules bribed the Catholic Church with a million bucks or so?




mantra wrote on Aug 7th, 2010 at 9:37pm:
I recall the screeching from the rabid right when the current government suggested removing the medicare safety net. All those in dire need of liposuction and cosmetic surgery would have been disadvantaged if that hadn't continued.



As I recollect the 'screeching' it was the poor buggers who had to endure cataracts when Kev halved the Medicare rebate for this surgery.  Those paying the price for the ALP were, as always, those least able to pay.

Title: Re: I'm ashamed of the WEL
Post by Karnal on Aug 7th, 2010 at 9:53pm

Soren wrote on Aug 7th, 2010 at 8:50pm:

mantra wrote on Aug 7th, 2010 at 8:22pm:

nichy wrote on Aug 7th, 2010 at 5:25pm:
vegitamite -  I go to church,  never have the proests told us who to vote for.  In fact many of them would lean towards Labor.  

It's not good to make things up.


I doubt the Hillsong promoters would have any qualms about pushing their congregation to vote for the Coalition. They loved Howard and Costello preaching for profit at their auditorium.

The Catholic Church also has been recently promised by Christopher Pyne that their funding would be continued at the healthy rate they enjoyed under the Coalition if they won.

Incredible how these religious organisations earn hefty profits, pay no tax yet demand their schools are publicly funded.



How would you know?? How would you actually know, besides having read it in the papers?

Mantra, you are the kind of person, it seems to me, who will swell up with moral righteusness simply because you have read something in a newspaper or the internet.


Instead of hearing it on talkback radio, old boy?

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