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General Discussion >> Federal Politics >> Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1279437237 Message started by Thy.Equitist on Jul 18th, 2010 at 5:13pm |
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Title: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by Thy.Equitist on Jul 18th, 2010 at 5:13pm Just for fun, I reckon that we should make a collection, of idotic electioneering statements by our most despised and beloved pollies... |
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Title: Re: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by Thy.Equitist on Jul 18th, 2010 at 5:18pm I, for one, reckon that someone should tell Action Man Abbo that mud always sticks to the hand that throws it... I just hope that they'll wait until after he totally trashes the Libs' election chances... Here's just a few from a single article: - Quote:
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Source: http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/07/17/2956607.htm Dunno what he's grasping at - but he clearly has a poor grasp on both irony and political reality... |
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Title: Re: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by Thy.Equitist on Jul 18th, 2010 at 5:41pm Then there's that entertaining ol' woman, Joyce: - Quote:
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[/quote] Source: http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/07/18/2956836.htm Dunno what he's grasping at either - but he's obviously down there with Abbott... |
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Title: Re: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by Thy.Equitist on Jul 18th, 2010 at 5:44pm I haven't found anything especially amusing in the Lab campaign yet - but I'm sure that many of you right whingers will be listening intently... |
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Title: Re: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by Thy.Equitist on Jul 18th, 2010 at 5:50pm
Meantime, I love this poignant cartoon: -
...which accompanied this article: - http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/a-fight-to-the-finish-20100717-10f2a.html Quote:
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Title: Re: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by Thy.Equitist on Jul 18th, 2010 at 5:56pm Quote:
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Title: Re: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by longweekend58 on Jul 18th, 2010 at 6:02pm
||"Why should people trust Labor's 2010 promises when you couldn't trust their 2007 promises."||
why is that a silly statement? even a partisan labor supporter would accept that promises were not kept after the alst election. |
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Title: Re: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by froggie on Jul 18th, 2010 at 6:20pm longweekend58 wrote on Jul 18th, 2010 at 6:02pm:
How about this one then, lwe?? Abbott on tonight's news..... "Interest rates will always be lower under a coalition government." :-? |
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Title: Re: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by Thy.Equitist on Jul 18th, 2010 at 6:20pm longweekend58 wrote on Jul 18th, 2010 at 6:02pm:
Err...ummnnn....clearly, you do not see the irony, of a Lib campaigning on a platform of "trust" - much less an Howardian Era Lib doing so!? Did you get the irony, of Abbott using his speech to continue his ironic 'spin' about Lab 'spin'!? |
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Title: Re: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by froggie on Jul 18th, 2010 at 6:22pm
Good evening, thy..... :)
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Title: Re: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by longweekend58 on Jul 18th, 2010 at 6:24pm Lobo wrote on Jul 18th, 2010 at 6:20pm:
if we added the phrase 'excepting under unprecedented worldwide financial chaos' then the statement is undeniably true. or are you one of those irrational labor supporters who believe that intrest rateas peaked under Howard rather than Keating? |
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Title: Re: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by Thy.Equitist on Jul 18th, 2010 at 6:25pm Lobo wrote on Jul 18th, 2010 at 6:20pm:
LOL...that is classic Lib voodoo economics spin, which unwittingly points to greater economic recessions under the policies of any coalition govt! |
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Title: Re: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by longweekend58 on Jul 18th, 2010 at 6:27pm Equitist wrote on Jul 18th, 2010 at 6:25pm:
You can be quite irrational nemesis. you dont honestly expect anyone to believe what you just posted as being even close to anythign truthful? or are you going to blame the 1990s recession on the liberals who hadnt been in power for 7 years? |
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Title: Re: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by Thy.Equitist on Jul 18th, 2010 at 6:41pm longweekend58 wrote on Jul 18th, 2010 at 6:27pm:
Think a little longer and harder Longy... Hint: does the RBA reduce interest rates when the economy is booming, or when it is tanking!? |
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Title: Re: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by longweekend58 on Jul 18th, 2010 at 6:47pm Equitist wrote on Jul 18th, 2010 at 6:41pm:
Try and work out that the relationship is neither linear or absolute. The RBA lowered rates in 2005/6 to record lows while the economy was indisputably at its historical BEST. interest rates are not just dependant on economic growth but also inflation. they two are NOT related one-to-one. it is possible to have a high growth low infaltion economy with low interest rates as Howard did. Low interest rates can also be used as a stimulus to avoid recession such as in 2008/9. terms such as 'tanking' are far to broad to be used to an economy especially in the context of interest rates. I know you dont like it but your simplistic vies are unhelpful and u you them disingenuously. |
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Title: Re: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by froggie on Jul 18th, 2010 at 7:26pm
if we added the phrase 'excepting under unprecedented worldwide financial chaos' then the statement is undeniably true."
by lwe. ---- But, he didn't... |
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Title: Re: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by mellie on Jul 18th, 2010 at 7:33pm longweekend58 wrote on Jul 18th, 2010 at 6:02pm:
Essentially, Labor are asking for another three years to make up for the last 3. I'm going to give Tony a go. 8-) |
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Title: Re: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by longweekend58 on Jul 18th, 2010 at 7:34pm Lobo wrote on Jul 18th, 2010 at 7:26pm:
well with the SINGLE exception of the GFC, it remains an indisputable fact. getting low rates ONCE and requiring a near worldwide dpression to acheive is hardly something to get excited by. let';s see them get record low rates AND a booming economy all at the same time as Howard did. |
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Title: Re: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by vegitamite on Jul 18th, 2010 at 8:14pm
Hey, Ive got some NEW slogans pinched from another site...
Keep Australia Pest-free-------------- -------HELP BUILD THE ABBOTT-PROOF FENCE "Cremate AbbottChoices”. Or “Avoid Bad Abbotts – vote Labor [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by Marxist on Jul 18th, 2010 at 8:39pm Quote:
I could not believe I heard him say this, makes you wonder why people would trust Tont Abbott when clearly Mal Turnbull couldn't. |
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Title: Re: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by longweekend58 on Jul 18th, 2010 at 8:41pm Marxist wrote on Jul 18th, 2010 at 8:39pm:
Youarent going to seriously compare the knifing of a popular PM to the change of an unpopular OPPOSITION leader?? yes, you probably wuld! |
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Title: Re: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by Marxist on Jul 18th, 2010 at 8:55pm Quote:
The point is you dont throw mud at someone for doing the same thing you have done yourself. Isnt that called hypocracy. |
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Title: Re: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by longweekend58 on Jul 18th, 2010 at 8:57pm Marxist wrote on Jul 18th, 2010 at 8:55pm:
it woudl be if it WAS the same thing. But it wasnt. the position of PM is lightyears more important than opposition leader and it is a position that is defacto chosen by teh voters. it was a serious breach of trust. |
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Title: Re: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by Thy.Equitist on Jul 18th, 2010 at 9:17pm longweekend58 wrote on Jul 18th, 2010 at 8:57pm:
Bollox! As per usual, the majority of the electorate voted for a party - in this case for Labor because the other major party was very much on the nose! Besides, at the last election, it was clear to the electorate that Howard would not continue leading the party for long - regardless of whether or not his party lost... That said, the Libs remain out of touch and on the nose - not least because they have blown the trust of much of the electorate by giving a divisive bigot like Abbott the head job... The electorate will vote accordingly! Meantime, Rudd was axed from within because he was not a team player - a point which most right whingers were at pains to point out, at every opportunity, and right up until the moment of his demise... Again, the electorate will vote accordingly! |
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Title: Re: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by Thy.Equitist on Jul 18th, 2010 at 9:28pm PS Of the small proportion of the electorate who are 'swinging voters' - what proportion of them would prefer: - 1. Rudd over Gillard? 2. Abbott over Gillard? I'm guessing that, the correct answer to both questions would be 'very few'! |
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Title: Re: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by Three.Equal.lists on Jul 18th, 2010 at 9:32pm
small proportion?!
It's around 10 to 15% of the electorate by the look of it in past elections. I'm a swinging voter and I'd prefer Abbott over Rudd or Gillard. Doesn't necessarily mean I'll vote for him though. |
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Title: Re: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by Thy.Equitist on Jul 18th, 2010 at 9:54pm Crikey, I just saw the Libs' latest election ad... Dunno if I was more struck by its petty divisiveness or its lameness - or the inherent contradiction between the two!? I doubt that the boring soundtrack would cause anybody to 'stand up' - unless they felt compelled to take the action of finding something to toss in the direction of the idiot box... For anyone who hasn't seen it, check it and other Lib propaganda out over here: - http://www.liberal.org.au/Liberal-TV.aspx What were their marketeers thinking!? |
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Title: Re: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by Annie Anthrax on Jul 19th, 2010 at 10:09am
Thy, both the Labor and Liberal election ads are cheese. Gillard looks stiff - I thought she did much better on 60 Minutes last night than in the ad.
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Title: Re: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by skippy. on Jul 19th, 2010 at 10:18am Quote:
what a load of bullsh1t. The party choose the leader always have, the party dumped Menzies when PM, the party dumped Gorton when PM, the party chose McMahon without going to the people, the party chose Holt without going to the people, you notice anything yet? all conservative PMs, hypocrites. |
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Title: Re: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by Thy.Equitist on Jul 19th, 2010 at 10:21am Annie Anthrax wrote on Jul 19th, 2010 at 10:09am:
Thankfully, Annie, I have to take your word for that - as I haven't had the misfortune of seeing any of the Lab ads - yet... |
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Title: Re: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by Thy.Equitist on Jul 19th, 2010 at 10:25am skippy. wrote on Jul 19th, 2010 at 10:18am:
Methinks that the Libs are spitting sour grapes - because they didn't stand up to that electorally-toxic old goat JWH before the 2007 election... Not that it would have necessarily done them much good, since the whole rabid rabble was on the nose with the electorate anyway - but they are peeved because they'll never really know for sure, whether Costello was their saviour... |
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Title: Re: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by billy the fish on Jul 19th, 2010 at 3:39pm longweekend58 wrote on Jul 18th, 2010 at 6:24pm:
WE have been over all this before on yahoo,you got caught out lying when it has been proven time and time again interest rates were always higher under LIBERAL when Howard got thrown out the first time they were 21 percent,and when he got thrown out the second time interest rates were spiraling out of control ::) |
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Title: Re: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by Verge on Jul 19th, 2010 at 3:46pm
Well is appears the term 'moving forward' is the new spin of the ALP, 24 times to be exact in the first speech.
Gee, nice to know she wants to move forward, would never have guessed it for ourselves. We need to move forward to pay off the spiralling debt Gillard has given us with the billions WASTED under the BER. |
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Title: Re: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by perceptions_now on Jul 20th, 2010 at 11:21am Verge wrote on Jul 19th, 2010 at 3:46pm:
Gee, 1 day and already 36 posts, that's VergeN on Macca-esk proportions? |
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Title: Re: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by Verge on Jul 20th, 2010 at 11:33am perceptions_now wrote on Jul 20th, 2010 at 11:21am:
Hardly, I came on late last night, it equates to about three an hour. |
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Title: Re: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by Thy.Equitist on Jul 20th, 2010 at 11:38am Verge wrote on Jul 19th, 2010 at 3:46pm:
Libs who incessantly dribble 'A great big piss on everything' should not have glass toilet doors... |
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Title: Re: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by Verge on Jul 20th, 2010 at 11:40am Equitist wrote on Jul 20th, 2010 at 11:38am:
24 times in a single speech, its insulting to the intelligence of the public. |
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Title: Re: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by Thy.Equitist on Jul 20th, 2010 at 11:44am Verge wrote on Jul 20th, 2010 at 11:40am:
LOL...partisans who watch news and current affairs programs should assume that other people do too - and should therefore be careful not to just parrot the propaganda of pollies... |
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Title: Re: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by Thy.Equitist on Jul 20th, 2010 at 11:48am Similarly: pollies, who habitually trade in quips and slogans, ought not pettily use same to highlight the spin of fellow pollies... |
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Title: Re: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by Verge on Jul 20th, 2010 at 11:48am Equitist wrote on Jul 20th, 2010 at 11:44am:
Im not parroting anyone, I tried to watch that speech and had to turn it off, I became infuriated with her speech. I found it insulting the way she went out of her way to dumb it down and her 'moving forward' was as big of an insult if Ive ever seen one, what, does she expect us to think they wont even try? Thats why I made a mention of this speech thy. 24 times is just plain stupidity. |
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Title: Re: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by perceptions_now on Jul 20th, 2010 at 12:10pm Verge wrote on Jul 20th, 2010 at 11:33am:
Making up for lost time? Macca? |
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Title: Re: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by Verge on Jul 20th, 2010 at 12:12pm perceptions_now wrote on Jul 20th, 2010 at 12:10pm:
Im hardly macca perceptions, do you see me posting 45 threads a day? |
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Title: Re: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by perceptions_now on Jul 20th, 2010 at 12:59pm Verge wrote on Jul 20th, 2010 at 12:12pm:
Let me see, 3 an hour x 24 hours a day = 72 posts Hmmm? Well, if not, are you a very close relative? |
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Title: Re: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by Verge on Jul 20th, 2010 at 1:04pm perceptions_now wrote on Jul 20th, 2010 at 12:59pm:
You dont sleep? Go to the gym? Cook tea? Bascially Im fairly bored at work at the moment, and I dont have my usual outlet of the yahoo boards. Im also not a blind follower like Macca. |
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Title: Re: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by perceptions_now on Jul 20th, 2010 at 1:57pm Verge wrote on Jul 20th, 2010 at 1:04pm:
Do you mean, you actually use both eyes, not just the RIGHT one? Well, that does it, you can't be Macca? |
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Title: Re: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by buzzanddidj on Jul 20th, 2010 at 2:49pm
702 Drive’s
Election Lingo Bingo Rules: We want to record the first time any candidate uses one of these phrases – send us the detail of what was said, who said it, and where you heard it or read it, and we’ll do our best to confirm the ‘sighting’. Email as soon as you hear each phrase to: richardglover@your.abc.net.au The aim is to see how long it will take us – collectively – to tick off all the words in the form. Working families Irresponsible spending Work to be done Fully costed by Treasury At the end of the day Addicted to spending Moving forward May I just say…. Dodgy figures Fear tactics No silver bullet Securing our borders UnAustralian Fiscal Conservative Having said that, let me say this Biggest spending, highest taxing Fully funded Great big Factional warlords Hard-working Australians I make no apologies for…. Slugged Backflip In the fullness of time Swamped The reality is…. The Australian people Let the cat out of the bag Muck raking Ordinary Australians http://blogs.abc.net.au/nsw/2010/07/play-election-lingo-bingo.html?site=sydney&program=702_drive . |
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Title: Re: Where mud sticks: election spin, slogans & shy Post by dsmithy70 on Jul 20th, 2010 at 3:04pm |
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