Lets forget about this up-coming election, (Abbott -vrs- Gillard)  rather lets focus on what matters most to your average  tea towel-head rubbing it's worry beads  down at Lakemba mosque, playing king of the urban sand-dunes on Muzzopolitical island.

Lets call a camel a camel here folks, and hurry, because I am getting rather bored here ...this and wonder why it's their own sheiks and religious leaders who appear to be so much better off than a majority of their down-trod refugees.

:) ....


Stop politically pandering to these parasites, they really have no idea, this and pray on their own even.

Yes, Christians have a tendency to do this too, but where are the Muslim chartable organisations which cater for anyone other than Muslims here in Australia?

Ie, St Vinnies -vrs- St Ukmeds?
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Really, what have they done?

Other than funnel funds towards destructive endeavours?

:) Night!

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mellie wrote on Jul 13^th, 2010 at 11:06pm:

I came here to discuss politics, and all I got was Islam.

Bollox! A quick review of your tracks reveals that you've selectively-steered yourself away from broader political subjects and actively turned other discussions into debates over Islam...

Lets forget about this up-coming election, (Abbott -vrs- Gillard)  rather lets focus on what matters most to your average  tea towel-head rubbing it's worry beads  down at Lakemba mosque, playing king of the urban sand-dunes on Muzzopolitical island.

Lets call a camel a camel here folks, and hurry, because I am getting rather bored here ...this and wonder why it's their own sheiks and religious leaders who appear to be so much better off than a majority of their down-trod refugees.

:) ....


Stop politically pandering to these parasites, they really have no idea, this and pray on their own even.

Yes, Christians have a tendency to do this too, but where are the Muslim chartable organisations which cater for anyone other than Muslims here in Australia?

Ie, St Vinnies -vrs- St Ukmeds?

Really, what have they done?

Other than funnel funds towards destructive endeavours?

:) Night!i

mellie wrote on Jul 13^th, 2010 at 11:04pm:

Lets forget about this up-coming election, (Abbott -vrs- Gillard)  rather lets focus on what matters most to your average  tea towel-head rubbing it's worry beads  down at Lakemba mosque, playing king of the urban sand-dunes on Muzzopolitical island. Lets call a camel a camel here folks, and hurry, because I am getting rather bored here ...this and wonder why it's their own sheiks and religious leaders who appear to be so much better off than a majority of their down-trod refugees. :) .... Stop politically pandering to these parasites, they really have no idea, this and pray on their own even. Yes, Christians have a tendency to do this too, but where are the Muslim chartable organisations which cater for anyone other than Muslims here in Australia? Ie, St Vinnies -vrs- St Ukmeds? Really, what have they done? Other than funnel funds towards destructive endeavours? :) Night!

Noice, Mellie - NOT!

Lets forget about this up-coming election, (Abbott -vrs- Gillard)  rather lets focus on what matters most to your average  tea towel-head rubbing it's worry beads  down at Lakemba mosque, playing king of the urban sand-dunes on Muzzopolitical island.

Lets call a camel a camel here folks, and hurry, because I am getting rather bored here ...this and wonder why it's their own sheiks and religious leaders who appear to be so much better off than a majority of their down-trod refugees.

:) ....


Stop politically pandering to these parasites, they really have no idea, this and pray on their own even.

Yes, Christians have a tendency to do this too, but where are the Muslim chartable organisations which cater for anyone other than Muslims here in Australia?

Ie, St Vinnies -vrs- St Ukmeds?
xx
Really, what have they done?

Other than funnel funds towards destructive endeavours?

:) Night!

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I came here to discuss politics, and all I got was Islam.i

How many of these stupid threads are you going to keep here Mozz? this is three of the same thread.

I have spliced your three threads together Mellie, if you want to get a reply to your posts then add some content to them that may inspire a response rather than just reposting it as a new thread, that seems to work best.
Skippy, and everyone else, if you want to bring an issue to the attention of a mod, then "PM", FD, Locutius or myself, because we do not see every thread, and stuff gets done that we will never know about unless you tell us directly, thanks.

Thanks Mozz I was just about to do it and you beat me to it.

I was going to ask Mellie why this was necessary.  :-? I think a burqa is far less rude than say posting three threads saying the same thing and wasting peoples' time.


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Skippy, and everyone else, if you want to bring an issue to the attention of a mod, then "PM", FD, Locutius or myself, because we do not see every thread, and stuff gets done that we will never know about unless you tell us directly, thanks.

Yes I'm getting the hang of some of the functions so look out... ;) just kidding.

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Skippy, and everyone else, if you want to bring an issue to the attention of a mod, then "PM", FD, Locutius or myself, because we do not see every thread, and stuff gets done that we will never know about unless you tell us directly, thanks

No wuckers Mozz, but I expect that you'll need to keep a close eye on your PMs, mellie is as rabid as boofy when it comes to posting the same sh it over and over again.

There is a lot of gut reaction and very little analytical thought going into it.

Religions line their own pockets - yeah we know that already.

On another thread - we have this revelation  polygamous Muslims will cause the downfall of our social security system. Like there are maybe 3000 polygamous Muslims in Australia, and what tiny proportion of that 3000 are actually on social security? It's a microscopic issue that is being inflamed because at the moment, Muslims are regarded as toxic in Australia. It's xenophobia (please explain?) all over again.

Well stuff it all. I will stand up as heroic defender of the underdog. I will eat no more pork (That's easy because I'm vegetarian) and today I'm a Sufi. I refuse to wear a burqa, but I'll make sure that I walk 5 paces in front of my wife whenever we go out in public.

Appeal to greed, bigotry, mob instinct, and appeal to dumb-assed red-neck stupidity might get sympathy from some of the voters I guess, but it will lose a lot more. (I hope)

Yes I noticed a similarity between mellie and beowulf as well, great minds and all that, I expect.

muso wrote on Jul 14^th, 2010 at 11:03am:

There is a lot of gut reaction and very little analytical thought going into it. Religions line their own pockets - yeah we know that already. On another thread - we have this revelation  polygamous Muslims will cause the downfall of our social security system. Like there are maybe 3000 polygamous Muslims in Australia, and what tiny proportion of that 3000 are actually on social security? It's a microscopic issue that is being inflamed because at the moment, Muslims are regarded as toxic in Australia. It's xenophobia (please explain?) all over again. Well stuff it all. I will stand up as heroic defender of the underdog. I will eat no more pork (That's easy because I'm vegetarian) and today I'm a Sufi. I refuse to wear a burqa, but I'll make sure that I walk 5 paces in front of my wife whenever we go out in public. Appeal to greed, bigotry, mob instinct, and appeal to dumb-assed red-neck stupidity might get sympathy from some of the voters I guess, but it will lose a lot more. (I hope)

Personally Muso I see you as a jainist...so off with the clothes old boy.

mozzaok wrote on Jul 14^th, 2010 at 11:04am:

Yes I noticed a similarity between mellie and beowulf as well, great minds and all that, I expect.

Yea, LOL ;D

locutius wrote on Jul 14^th, 2010 at 11:05am:

Personally Muso I see you as a jainist...so off with the clothes old boy.

That's every second Thursday. I must admit that Jainism is one of my favourites.  For one thing, they do make very nice vegetarian curries, and they don't believe in gods. I couldn't be a Jain every day though. I'd starve.  

muso wrote on Jul 14^th, 2010 at 11:10am:

locutius wrote on Jul 14th, 2010 at 11:05am: Personally Muso I see you as a jainist...so off with the clothes old boy. That's every second Thursday. I must admit that Jainism is one of my favourites.  For one thing, they do make very nice vegetarian curries, and they don't believe in gods. I couldn't be a Jain every day though. I'd starve.

LOL. Yes I also have a soft spot for Jainism.


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Enjoy the company of the holy and better qualified, be merciful to those afflicted souls and tolerate the perversely inclined

Exercising the highlighted portion of their belief system has allowed me to live with myself.

I think all of us have our vices, be it religion, our family's, leisure, careers, hobbies etc, (unfortunately some resort to more destructive alternatives)...though when these vices begin to affect others adversely or impinge on others in a social/emotional context, then we really need to sit back and ask ourselves if there were a god, is this what he/she would want?

A river of blood and entrenched hatred in his/her honour?

If there is a god, then I doubt the prejudice, greed and hatred formed part of his/her divine plan, unless god him/herself were an ass-hole.

There is no wrong or right faith, there are only those who project their own ideals in the name of their said "faith".

This and set about trying to convince themselves and others that what they do is in the name of moral righteousness.

Do we really need a god to tell us right from wrong?

mellie wrote on Jul 14^th, 2010 at 12:32pm:

.............unless god him/herself were an ass-hole.

It's surprising how infrequently this very concept is examined seriously.

locutius wrote on Jul 14^th, 2010 at 4:44pm:

mellie wrote on Jul 14th, 2010 at 12:32pm: .............unless god him/herself were an ass-hole. It's surprising how infrequently this very concept is examined seriously.

Then there's the other obvious question, which goes to the effect of: at the time/s that each of the great religious texts were written, what were the prevailing levels of education, supersition, political freedom, inequality, scientific knowledge/ignorance and overall socio-economic development!?

I, for one, think it is ludicrous to give much credence to the notions expressed in any text, that claims to be the ultimate (and only) authority, on the origins of not just humanity and all living things on our planet - but of the entire universe...

Especially, any ancient text that was written at a time when the vast majority of people were highly superstitious of the dynamic forces of nature and absolutely certain that the earth was flat...

Ah yes, in the words of one of the world's great thinkers..."“It is clear from a churchman who has been elevated to a very eminent position that the Holy Spirit’s intention is to teach us how to go to Heaven, and not how the heavens go”."

Galileo