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Newspoll: 52-48 to Labor Sunday, June 20, 2010 – 11:30 pm, by William Bowe Full results available from Peter Brent at Mumble. This is a slight improvement on the 51-49 from three weeks ago, and under the circumstances will come as an enormous relief for the Prime Minister. One sting in the tail is that Labor’s primary vote remains steady on a parlous 35 per cent. The Coalition is down one point to 40 per cent and the Greens are on 15 per cent, one point off their record-breaking effort from three weeks ago. A two-point slack has been taken up by “others” on 10 per cent. Another sting in the tail is that the preferred prime minister rating has swung to Abbott: Rudd is down three points to 46 per cent and Abbott is up four to 37 per cent, which is respectively a personal worst and the best result achieved by a Liberal leader on Rudd’s watch. This is despite the fact that the leaders’ approval ratings are basically unchanged. Kevin Rudd’s approval is steady on 36 per cent and his disapproval is up a point to 55 per cent, while Tony Abbott is respectively up a point to 38 per cent and steady on 49 per cent.

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http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2010/06/20/newspoll-52-48-to-labor/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+CrikeyBlogs+%28Crikey+Blogs%29

Methinks that BOTH the LibLabs will be breathing a sigh of relief, that: over the past two weeks, nothing much has changed for the worse in the polling ...

I would have  more faith in these polls.. if they gave more details about where when they were taken..

when they have a question like prefered PM...it seems ridiculous to me when Abbott has never been PM.shouldnt the current PM be compared to a previous one.well that would make more sense to me!

This is BAD news for my ambitions. Labor might start tinking Gillard is better than Rudd and elect her leader.

Don't Let Gillard get the leadership for Liberal Party Sake

Tony Abbott In Budgie Smugglers

Equitist wrote on Jun 21^st, 2010 at 12:01am:

Quote: Newspoll: 52-48 to Labor Sunday, June 20, 2010 – 11:30 pm, by William Bowe Full results available from Peter Brent at Mumble. This is a slight improvement on the 51-49 from three weeks ago, and under the circumstances will come as an enormous relief for the Prime Minister. One sting in the tail is that Labor’s primary vote remains steady on a parlous 35 per cent. The Coalition is down one point to 40 per cent and the Greens are on 15 per cent, one point off their record-breaking effort from three weeks ago. A two-point slack has been taken up by “others” on 10 per cent. Another sting in the tail is that the preferred prime minister rating has swung to Abbott: Rudd is down three points to 46 per cent and Abbott is up four to 37 per cent, which is respectively a personal worst and the best result achieved by a Liberal leader on Rudd’s watch. This is despite the fact that the leaders’ approval ratings are basically unchanged. Kevin Rudd’s approval is steady on 36 per cent and his disapproval is up a point to 55 per cent, while Tony Abbott is respectively up a point to 38 per cent and steady on 49 per cent. Source: http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2010/06/20/newspoll-52-48-to-labor/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+CrikeyBlogs+%28Crikey+Blogs%29

This cant be right, longweekend and Iamtheman said the Libs were winning and Labor were gone, LOL.
You watch all the rightards go back to not wanting to talk polls, its a media conspiracy,dontcha know, LOL.

codswal wrote on Jun 21^st, 2010 at 7:05am:

I would have  more faith in these polls.. if they gave more details about where when they were taken.. when they have a question like prefered PM...it seems ridiculous to me when Abbott has never been PM.shouldnt the current PM be compared to a previous one.well that would make more sense to me!

LOL, Cods...the mind boggles, over your backwards-looking logic...

Meantime, I'd suggest that: the significance of this particular poll is reflected by the Australian newspaper's notable disinterest in it - apparently, because this poll belies their increasingly partisan and untenable headlines in recent months...

It's starange that tony abbott has such a high disapproval rating.
I can't think of much he has said/done that could cause people to disapprove of him .

his nickname mad monk is probably not a goodie :-)

perhaps he should be more proactive ?

it's an injustice that the greems preferences seem to automatically go to the alp.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 21^st, 2010 at 8:50am:

It's starange that tony abbott has such a high disapproval rating. I can't think of much he has said/done that could cause people to disapprove of him . his nickname mad monk is probably not a goodie :-) perhaps he should be more proactive ?

Oh yeah, that's definitely it: Action Man Abbo needs to break his leash and toss off the muzzle - and get out more! The electorate needs to see the Mad Monk for the rabid attack-dog that he is! ::)



(Excuse the mixed metaphors, folks!)

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it's an injustice that the greems preferences seem to automatically go to the alp

Sprint, you're a smart man, for a rightard, think about it mate, why would a GREENS supporter give their preference to a climate skeptic party? its Abbott's own fault, if he'd shut his mouth and pulled into line the climate skeptic retards in the Libs and Nats he may have had a chance at snatching a few GREEN preferences, but what self respecting GREEN voter is going to preference a climate change denier party?

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the significance of this particular poll is reflected by the Australian newspaper's notable disinterest in it

Funny hey? I cant even find the poll on the Telegraph site, they probably realise how fvucking stupid they look after the last month of trying their hardest to convince the electorate that they don't like Labor.
I think many people have woken up to the filthy Murdoch press and their lies, Piers will be back on the bottle  snorting his head off and looking for a new woman to assault I suppose.

It looks like longweekend couldn't handle the heat, typical rightard, he's been sprouting all week " wait for the Newspoll" LOL it out, and it seems longweekend and his little chums have done a runner,LOL.
You watch, longweekend and his chumps will be shouting out loud, " the polls are a media conspiracy," LOL.

skippy - I see.

us rightys take a more pragmatic approach.

so despite the facts that there is no proof men is causing the climate change, or that recently the globe has cooled, or that australia will never effect the global climate, or that rudds ETS sunk, leftys still cling to the idealism ?

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 21^st, 2010 at 10:39am:

skippy - I see. us rightys take a more pragmatic approach. so despite the facts that there is no proof men is causing the climate change, or that recently the globe has cooled, or that australia will never effect the global climate, or that rudds ETS sunk, leftys still cling to the idealism ?

No matter what spin you put on it sprint, GREENS voters wont preferece a climate change skeptic party, why would they?
You need to stop taking your lead off the like of Ackerman and shamsham, they are not doing you any favours.

skippy. wrote on Jun 21^st, 2010 at 9:49am:

It looks like longweekend couldn't handle the heat, typical rightard, he's been sprouting all week " wait for the Newspoll" LOL it out, and it seems longweekend and his little chums have done a runner,LOL. You watch, longweekend and his chumps will be shouting out loud, " the polls are a media conspiracy," LOL.

It wasn't just the lay parrots, it was some of the pseudo-professionals too - notably the right whinger Journos...

I choked on my coffee this morning, when a bemused electoral analyst Antony Green quipped on ABC News Breakfast, about the irony of the Australian newspaper trying to ignore the latest Newspoll...given their recent anti-Lab/pro-Lib squawking...

Not only, have they recklessly tried to talk the economy into ruin over the proposed mining tax but they've painted previous opinion polls as death rattles for the Rudd Govt - and they've relentlessly portrayed the ALP leadership as gravely fractured...

that's no spin, that's how I see it.
I've voted greens before and could well do again.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 21^st, 2010 at 10:39am:

skippy - I see. us rightys take a more pragmatic approach. so despite the facts that there is no proof men is causing the climate change, or that recently the globe has cooled, or that australia will never effect the global climate, or that rudds ETS sunk, leftys still cling to the idealism ?

I'll take the forward-thinking idealism of lefties, over the backward-clinging dogma of right whingers - any day!


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PS Given the irony of your mentioning of the concept pragmatism, I've gotta say that Mozzaok's signature always reminds me that: all to often, the dogma of right whingers eats their pragma! Clearly, this is what the Labs are relying upon the rabid Abbott & Co to unwittingly remind the electorate of...

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I choked on my coffee this morning, when electoral analyst Antony Green quipped on ABC News Breakfast about the irony of the Australian newspaper trying to ignore the latest Newspoll...given their recent anti-Lab/pro-Lib squawking...

LOL, look at the OZ headlines, " Abbott closes gap on Rudd" if you didn't read the small print you'd be mistaken for thinking the Libs had done well, but no, its a normal 52/48 to Labor.
Now I think the Lib supporters think Abbott is doing well as he;s not scoring 59-41s but the reality is Abbott has been in hiding for the last three weeks so he actually polls better when he shuts up, something he wont be able to do during an election campaign, when he'll look like a rabbit in a spotlight.

Later this week, I expect that Media Watch and/or Clarke & Dawe will have some poignant analysis, of the dubious and downright dishonest conduct, of the Oz and other patently partisan media outlets...

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SUPPORT for Labor has crashed so far in marginal seats in Queensland and western Sydney that the government would lose an election now. Seats Labor won in 2007 in regional Queensland and outer Sydney, which effectively delivered its victory, are showing swings against the ALP of between 6 per cent and 12 per cent and voters have turned against the Prime Minister. In Labor-held seats where the Greens' vote is low, support is dramatically shifting from sitting Labor MPs to the Coalition, removing hopes of Labor surviving on preferences and boosting Tony Abbott as the prospective prime minister. Most voters are dissatisfied with Mr Rudd as Prime Minister in the five seats polled by The Australian, with a high of 61 per cent in western Sydney seat of Lindsay where the Opposition Leader is ahead as the preferred prime minister................

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/politics/big-swings-against-kevin-rudd-in-key-marginals/story-e6frgczf-1225882496183

LOL sprinty, read this and get some reality back in your life son.
"do you know how many polls the Coalition has won since the last election?

Three.

As all three of those polls have occurred since the beginning of May, do you know how many polls have been taken since May?

24."
LOL sprinty, are you embarresed for falling for this s hit? you should be ol son.So if the LIbs have won  just THREE polls in all that time how many do you think Labor have won? come on mate have a go, what is 24 take away 3 mate?

24 - 3 = 21.

sorry if that posting causes you so much mental anguish that you need to ask me mathematics questions skippy.

http://www.newspoll.com.au/cgi-bin/polling/display_poll_data.pl?url_caller=latest&state=Any&mode=file&page=Search


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IF A FEDERAL ELECTION FOR THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES WAS HELD TODAY, WHICH ONE OF THE FOLLOWING WOULD YOU VOTE FOR? IF “UNCOMMITTED”, TO WHICH ONE OF THESE DO YOU HAVE A LEANING? PRIMARY VOTE+ LIBERAL NATIONALS COALITION LABOR GREENS OTHERS % %% %%% Election 24 November 2007 36.6 5.5 42.1 43.3 7.8 6.8 Newspoll 26-28 March 2010 35 3 38 43 12 7 Newspoll 16-18 April 2010 37 3 40 43 10 7 Newspoll 30 April -2 May 2010 38 5 43 35 10 12 Newspoll 14-16 May 2010 40 3 43 37 12 8 Newspoll 28-30 May 2010 38 3 41 35 16 8 Newspoll 18-20 June 2010* 36 4 40 35 15 10 *3 per cent “uncommitted” and 2 per cent “refused” excluded. TWO PARTY PREFERRED+ Based on preference flow at November 2007 Federal election COALITION LABOR %% Election 24 November 2007 47.3 52.7 Newspoll 26-28 March 2010 44 56 Newspoll 16-18 April 2010 46 54 Newspoll 30 April -2 May 2010 51 49 Newspoll 14-16 May 2010 50 50 Newspoll 28-30 May 2010 49 51 Newspoll 18-20 June 2010 48 52 + Excludes Northern Territory. ARE YOU SATISFIED OR DISSATISFIED WITH THE WAY MR KEVIN RUDD IS DOING HIS JOB AS PRIME MINISTER? SATISFIED DISSATISFIED UNCOMMITTED %% % March 26-28 2010 51 39 10 April 16-18 2010 50 41 9 April 30 -May 2 2010 39 50 11 May 14-16 2010 39 51 10 May 28-30 2010 36 54 10 June 18-20 2010 36 55 9 [b]ARE YOU SATISFIED OR DISSATISFIED WITH THE WAY MR TONY ABBOTT IS DOING HIS JOB AS LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION? [/b] SATISFIED DISSATISFIED UNCOMMITTED %% % March 26-28 2010 44 43 13 April 16-18 2010 46 40 14 April 30 -May 2 2010 45 43 12 May 14-16 2010 42 45 13 May 28-30 2010 37 49 14 June 18-20 2010 38 49 13  WHO DO YOU THINK WOULD MAKE THE BETTER PRIME MINISTER? MR KEVIN MR TONY RUDD ABBOTT UNCOMMITTED % % % March 26-28 2010 59 27 14 April 16-18 2010 56 29 15 April 30 -May 2 2010 50 32 18 May 14-16 2010 49 33 18 May 28-30 2010 49 33 18 June 18-20 2010 46 37 17 These surveys were conducted on the telephone by trained interviewers in all states of Australia and in both city and country areas. Telephone numbers and the person within the household were selected at random. The data has been weighted to reflect the population distribution. The latest survey is based on 1,147 interviews among voters. The maximum margin of sampling error is plus or minus 3 percentage points. Copyright at all times remains with Newspoll. More poll information available at www.newspoll.com.au  © Copyright NEWSPOLL Any reproduction of this material must credit both NEWSPOLL and THE AUSTRALIAN

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2010 at 9:13am:

24 - 3 = 21. sorry if that posting causes you so much mental anguish that you need to ask me mathematics questions skippy.

So how many does that mean Labor have won out of the 24 polls in the last six weeks then sprint? ;D

So how many does that mean Labor have won out of the 24 polls in the last six weeks then sprint?
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That would be 2.

iamtheman012 wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2010 at 9:24am:

So how many does that mean Labor have won out of the 24 polls in the last six weeks then sprint? ____________________ That would be 2.

 Hello Iamdungpuncher, you must be following me around.
Labor have won 21 polls in the last six weeks, fvckwit, LOL LOL LOL
The Libs have won 3, LOL LOL LOL

Hello Iamdungpuncher, you must be following me around.
Labor have won 21 polls in the last six weeks, fvckwit, LOL LOL LOL
The Libs have won 3, LOL LOL LOL
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And WHO won the 50/50 mincer boy?

:D

Hmnnn....


Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2010 at 8:41am:

Quote: SUPPORT for Labor has crashed so far in marginal seats in Queensland and western Sydney that the government would lose an election now. Seats Labor won in 2007 in regional Queensland and outer Sydney, which effectively delivered its victory, are showing swings against the ALP of between 6 per cent and 12 per cent and voters have turned against the Prime Minister. In Labor-held seats where the Greens' vote is low, support is dramatically shifting from sitting Labor MPs to the Coalition, removing hopes of Labor surviving on preferences and boosting Tony Abbott as the prospective prime minister. Most voters are dissatisfied with Mr Rudd as Prime Minister in the five seats polled by The Australian, with a high of 61 per cent in western Sydney seat of Lindsay where the Opposition Leader is ahead as the preferred prime minister................ http://www.theaustralian.com.au/politics/big-swings-against-kevin-rudd-in-key-marginals/story-e6frgczf-1225882496183

http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2010/06/21/1225882/497634-newspoll2-a.jpg


Hang on, folks...the latest Newspoll apparently 'interviewed' and 'weighted' the voting intentions of a total of 1147 Australia-Wide...

They then produced separate tables for a total of 5 marginal seats in Qld and NSW - which begs questions as to the statistical reliability of at least the marginal seat data...

Are we to believe, that they polled a statistically significant number of people in each of these 5 electorates in the first instance!?

I, for one, would like to see the raw data...

iamtheman012 wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2010 at 9:37am:

Hello Iamdungpuncher, you must be following me around. Labor have won 21 polls in the last six weeks, fvckwit, LOL LOL LOL The Libs have won 3, LOL LOL LOL __________________ And WHO won the 50/50 mincer boy? :D

The what? speak English dungpunch.
As you can see the Libs are back,LOL, they've won three polls out of twentyfour in the past six weeks, LOL

Hang on, folks...the latest Newspoll apparently 'interviewed' and 'weighted' the voting intentions of a total of 1147 Australia-Wide...

Tthey then produced separate tables for a total of 5 marginal seats in Qld and NSW - which begs questions as to the statistical reliability of at least the marginal data...

Are we to believe, that they polled a statistically significant number of people in each of these 5 electorates in the first instance!?

I, for one, would like to see the raw data...

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Nem, as i am someone who lives in the Lindsay electorate, i will confirm that that result would be pretty much spot on. The only reason the ALP won in 2007 was due to boundary changes, which have now been changed back. The ALP candidate only moved up here last year from North Suburbs of Sydney and has no idea about the area. The ALP are toast next election.

:)

The what? speak English dungpunch.
As you can see the Libs are back,LOL, they've won three polls out of twentyfour in the past six weeks, LOL
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Gee you're thick mate. Have another think about it. LOL.

:D

Oh by the way dungpuncher, this site is about twenty years ahead of the Yahoo site, we have a quote box you can use,as well as many other functions, you ought to try them ,you wont look so computer unsavvy that way.

Oh by the way dungpuncher, this site is about twenty years ahead of the Yahoo site, we have a quote box you can use,as well as many other functions, you ought to try them ,you wont look so computer unsavvy that way.
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12 years in IT mate tells you that it's easier to C & P. F_ck you're useless mincer boy.

;D

The what? speak English dungpunch.
As you can see the Libs are back,LOL, they've won three polls out of twentyfour in the past six weeks, LOL
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Do you need more time to think about it mincer? Tick, Tock, Tick, Tock.

:-*

iamtheman012 wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2010 at 9:45am:

Hang on, folks...the latest Newspoll apparently 'interviewed' and 'weighted' the voting intentions of a total of 1147 Australia-Wide... Tthey then produced separate tables for a total of 5 marginal seats in Qld and NSW - which begs questions as to the statistical reliability of at least the marginal data... Are we to believe, that they polled a statistically significant number of people in each of these 5 electorates in the first instance!? I, for one, would like to see the raw data... ________________________ Nem, as i am someone who lives in the Lindsay electorate, i will confirm that that result would be pretty much spot on. The only reason the ALP won in 2007 was due to boundary changes, which have now been changed back. The ALP candidate only moved up here last year from North Suburbs of Sydney and has no idea about the area. The ALP are toast next election. :)

Not that either of us is biased or anything, Ima, but: as a person who is interested in statistical integrity, based on the data presented thus far, I don't trust the patently partisan Oz's analysis...

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Nem, as i am someone who lives in the Lindsay electorate, i will confirm that that result would be pretty much spot on. The only reason the ALP won in 2007 was due to boundary changes,

AHH, that explains a lot, no wonder you are so inept, lives in Lindsay, Penrith, LOL, nudge nudge say no more, .votes Lib and lives in that s hit hole,LOL

I have to cack myself about the rest of the quote, LOL and cack, " the only reason the ALP won in 2007 is because of boundary changes? LOL LOL and the fact the former Howard gov minister who held the seat and the Lib candidate along with their husbands got busted handing out flyers that were lies and the husbands ,Liberal party members, got charged for it, LOL just a little hiccup.

skippy. wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2010 at 9:57am:

Quote: Nem, as i am someone who lives in the Lindsay electorate, i will confirm that that result would be pretty much spot on. The only reason the ALP won in 2007 was due to boundary changes, AHH, that explains a lot, no wonder you are so inept, lives in Lindsay, Penrith, LOL, nudge nudge say no more, .votes Lib and lives in that s hit hole,LOL I have to cack myself about the rest of the quote, LOL and cack, " the only reason the ALP won in 2007 is because of boundary changes? LOL LOL and the fact the whore bag who held the seat and the Lib candidate along with their husbands got busted handing out flyers that were lies and the husbands ,Liberal party members, got charged for it, LOL just a little hiccup.

Oi Skip, my brother lives out there too!  ;)

AHH, that explains a lot, no wonder you are so inept, lives in Lindsay, Penrith, LOL, nudge nudge say no more, .votes Lib and lives in that s hit hole,LOL

I have to cack myself about the rest of the quote, LOL and cack, " the only reason the ALP won in 2007 is because of boundary changes? LOL LOL and the fact the whore bag who held the seat and the Lib candidate along with their husbands got busted handing out flyers that were lies and the husbands ,Liberal party members, got charged for it, LOL just a little hiccup.
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Mincer Boy i'm guessing you live in seat of Sydney, more precisely in Darlinghurst. Get to the wall much Skip?

;D

AHH, that explains a lot, no wonder you are so inept, lives in Lindsay, Penrith, LOL, nudge nudge say no more, .votes Lib and lives in that s hit hole,LOL
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You're actually not that familiar with the area are you mincer? I bet you're never been past Petersham because you think that's too far west. LOL.

:D

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Oi Skip, my brother lives out there too!

The poor thing. ;D

Labor      
1.55              
Coalition      
2.40              as @ 22/6/10, http://www.sportingbet.com.au/uipub/sport.aspx?l1id=34&l2id=754608&l3id=754609

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2010 at 9:32pm:

Labor       1.55               Coalition       2.40              as @ 22/6/10, http://www.sportingbet.com.au/uipub/sport.aspx?l1id=34&l2id=754608&l3id=754609

OH LOL ,look out Kevvie the rightards are on the march LOL LOL.

skippy. wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2010 at 9:00am:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jun 22nd, 2010 at 9:32pm: Labor       1.55               Coalition       2.40              as @ 22/6/10, http://www.sportingbet.com.au/uipub/sport.aspx?l1id=34&l2id=754608&l3id=754609 OH LOL ,look out Kevvie the rightards are on the march LOL LOL.

... you want LOL?

'...Liberal frontbencher Andrew Robb today told reporters it was his recollection Mr Abbott had told MPs their prospects had improved, but there was a way to go.

"It wasn't my recollection at all of the meeting," he said of Mr Abbott's "famous victory" comment.

The Coalition was still the underdog, Mr Robb said.

"I'm a great believer in the market and, you know, looking at the betting at the moment, we're still at $2.50 and the Labor Party's at $1.50.

"So we've still got a long way to go to realise any sort of victory at this next election." '

source: http://www.smh.com.au/national/abbotts-famous-victory-remark--was-it-gospel-or-not-20100623-ywq0.html

 ;D ;) ;) :D :)  :)  :) :)

skippy. wrote on Jun 21^st, 2010 at 8:47am:

This cant be right, longweekend and Iamtheman said the Libs were winning and Labor were gone, LOL. You watch all the rightards go back to not wanting to talk polls, its a media conspiracy,dontcha know, LOL.

On Friday of last week, the party’s national secretary, Karl Bitar, went to Rudd’s Parliament House office with internal party polling that showed just how bad the situation had become in marginal Queensland seats. He wanted to present the material to the prime minister himself. Remarkably, Rudd’s 31-year-old chief of staff, Alistair Jordan, didn’t allow that to happen.

He told Bitar to lock the polling away and show it to nobody.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/06/24/2936317.htm


LOL or what?


"The factions - and the unions - are back in control of the Labor Party - and that is the way that it had always operated up until Kevin07.

Rudd's only faction was the Newspoll faction. While it soared, he thrived. When it dived, he was all alone."