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Message started by perceptions_now on Jun 19th, 2010 at 10:40am

Title: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jun 19th, 2010 at 10:40am
Our Dependency on Foreign Oil

Jon Stewart's eight minute piece illustrating the populist talking point that is U.S. Presidents vowing to reduce our dependence on foreign oil is a must watch. Click and watch and laugh at the absurdity of the ceaseless rhetoric, which continued this week.
As Stewart says, "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me eight times - am I a smacking idiot?"

embedded video:


The Daily Show With Jon Stewart Mon - Thurs 11p / 10c
An Energy-Independent Future
http://seekingalpha.com/article/210687-our-dependency-on-foreign-oil?source=email
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A definate, must watch!

This guy is good, funny & makes the points, well!

Btw, the "Seeking Alpha" site, is quite good for a variety of "financial perspectives".

Title: Re: The Peak Oil Debate
Post by vegitamite on Jun 19th, 2010 at 5:41pm
Try to view this video  - but alas no luck on dial up .. :-[

However would like to comment that satire is missing badly in Australia to keep our politicians at bay... :'(

Satire has it place !

Title: Re: The Peak Oil Debate
Post by pansi1951 on Jun 20th, 2010 at 7:04am
Enjoyed the video perce. I liked the plant products for gasahol, now that's innovative.  Two wars and a giant spill - it's a lot to overcome.

Title: Re: The Peak Oil Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jun 20th, 2010 at 1:18pm
What happens when energy resources deplete?

This article is lengthy, so I will only post some small segments and a few graphs.

However, the whole article is worth a read!
http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6574
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Peak Oil and Exponential Growth
Oil supplies are expected not just to level off, but to actually decline. Part of this happens because of the natural decline rate of conventional oil fields, as the finite amount of oil that is in the field is extracted.

The decline is likely to be more severe than historical decline rates (2% to 8% per year) would suggest, for two reasons mentioned earlier:

1. Declining credit availability, as high default rates continue among buyers. Lack of credit will tend to keep oil prices low, and discourage investment.

2. Higher tax rates on fossil fuels. Governments are short of funds and oil companies are temping targets. If tax rates are raised, this will likely cut back production, since oil companies base investment decisions on expected after-tax profit, and this will be lower for many projects.
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Title: Re: The Peak Oil Debate
Post by vegitamite on Jun 21st, 2010 at 11:25am
Tic Tic Tic .....We’re not  out of oil … yet

BUT  are we running out of time to prepare for Peak Oil  >:(


http://www.brushtail.com.au/july_04_on/oil_running_out_of_time.html


Title: Re: The Peak Oil Debate
Post by Annie Anthrax on Jun 21st, 2010 at 11:29am
Cuba is a great model for surviving with minimal oil.

Title: Re: The Peak Oil Debate
Post by skippy. on Jun 21st, 2010 at 11:38am

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jun 21st, 2010 at 11:29am:
Cuba is a great model for surviving with minimal oil.

Dont they use a recycled cooking oil? I'd love to go to Cuba, all those old cars fat cigars and latin woman.

Title: Re: The Peak Oil Debate
Post by Annie Anthrax on Jun 21st, 2010 at 11:43am
When the crisis hit, they were blindsided. It took a few years for the soil to be properly productive - they had to grow organic because they no longer had chemical fertilisers. Every spare patch of land in the cities was turned into urban gardens to grow food.

There are horse-drawn buses in Havana, and probably other places too. It's a trip to watch.

I think there was a period of about 3 years where they really struggled (the average Cuban lost about 10kg), but they came out well.

Title: Re: The Peak Oil Debate
Post by Thy.Equitist on Jun 21st, 2010 at 11:47am


Good points, Annie - I have a great video on Cuba's paradigm socio-economic shift...


Title: Re: The Peak Oil Debate
Post by Annie Anthrax on Jun 21st, 2010 at 11:54am
Is it online?

Title: Re: The Peak Oil Debate
Post by Thy.Equitist on Jun 21st, 2010 at 12:06pm



Annie Anthrax wrote on Jun 21st, 2010 at 11:54am:
Is it online?



It's called 'The Power of Community: How Cuba Survived Peak Oil' - and it is definitely available online - via YouTube and elsewhere...

For starters, see: http://www.powerofcommunity.org/cm/index.php


Title: Re: The Peak Oil Debate
Post by Annie Anthrax on Jun 21st, 2010 at 12:08pm
Ah, yes. I've seen it - it's very good.

Title: Re: The Peak Oil Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jun 21st, 2010 at 12:08pm

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jun 21st, 2010 at 11:43am:
When the crisis hit, they were blindsided. It took a few years for the soil to be properly productive - they had to grow organic because they no longer had chemical fertilisers. Every spare patch of land in the cities was turned into urban gardens to grow food.
There are horse-drawn buses in Havana, and probably other places too. It's a trip to watch.

I think there was a period of about 3 years where they really struggled (the average Cuban lost about 10kg), but they came out well.


Take that Global, plus add a few extra obstacles, you then have a much more local economy and a disappearing Globilisation!  

Title: Re: The Peak Oil Debate
Post by Thy.Equitist on Jun 21st, 2010 at 12:12pm

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Title: Re: The Peak Oil Debate
Post by Thy.Equitist on Jun 21st, 2010 at 12:14pm



Annie Anthrax wrote on Jun 21st, 2010 at 12:08pm:
Ah, yes. I've seen it - it's very good.


Somehow, I suspected as much - but I posted the info for the benefit of others anyway...

;)



Title: Re: The Peak Oil Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jun 21st, 2010 at 7:43pm
Oil and gas production in Russia to fall after 2011 - LUKoil head

Oil and gas production in Russia will start declining gradually after 2011 if the government does not change laws to stimulate geological exploration, LUKoil head Vagit Alekperov said on Wednesday.

"The production will reach its peak in 2010-2011, and then it will face a gradual slowdown caused by a total absence of incentives in that sphere," Alekperov told a meeting of the Russian Union of Industrialists and Entrepreneurs.

He said that investment in geological exploration already slumped 65 percent in 2010 as newly-discovered fields are signed away to the state, not to a licence holder, which had discovered it, discouraging geological exploration on new fields.


Another stumbling block was the fact that expenses on new deposits discovery were only reimbursed if exploration proved successful, he said.
Link -
http://peakoil.com/production/oil-and-gas-production-in-russia-to-fall-after-2011-lukoil-head/
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From Russia, with Love, bugger a 40% Super profits tax, we'll just have it all!

Title: Re: The Peak Oil Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jun 22nd, 2010 at 1:51pm
Our Dependency on Foreign Oil
Worth a re-run

Jon Stewart's eight minute piece illustrating the populist talking point that is U.S. Presidents vowing to reduce our dependence on foreign oil is a must watch. Click and watch and laugh at the absurdity of the ceaseless rhetoric, which continued this week.
As Stewart says, "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me eight times - am I a smacking idiot?"

embedded video:
http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6625
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A definate, must watch!

This guy is good, funny & makes the points, well!

Btw, the "The Oil Drum" site, is good for a variety of "Energy related perspectives".

Title: Re: The Peak Oil Debate
Post by muso on Jun 22nd, 2010 at 3:55pm

wrote on Jun 21st, 2010 at 11:25am:
Tic Tic Tic .....We’re not  out of oil … yet

BUT  are we running out of time to prepare for Peak Oil  >:(


http://www.brushtail.com.au/july_04_on/oil_running_out_of_time.html



Peak Oil world production has already happened - in 2003. It has been suggested that the rising oil price prior to the Global Financial Crisis was a major causal factor for the GFC.  The Sub Prime Mortgage holders in the US generally lived further from work than the average person because that was the only way they could get reasonably priced homes.  Eventually something had to give - the rising price of fuel resulted in widespread loan defaults because they could no longer afford to pay their mortgages.  

I'll see if I can find the original editorial on it.

Of course, the GFC has resulted in a lower demand for oil, which has given exploration some time to catch up with demand, so there might be another peak oil episode.  

I don't doubt that there were other factors that came into play about 2003 (including the invasion of Iraq) which helped reduce production, but it hasn't recovered to 2003 levels yet.

Title: Re: The Peak Oil Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jun 22nd, 2010 at 5:16pm

muso wrote on Jun 22nd, 2010 at 3:55pm:

wrote on Jun 21st, 2010 at 11:25am:
Tic Tic Tic .....We’re not  out of oil … yet

BUT  are we running out of time to prepare for Peak Oil  >:(


http://www.brushtail.com.au/july_04_on/oil_running_out_of_time.html



Peak Oil world production has already happened - in 2003. It has been suggested that the rising oil price prior to the Global Financial Crisis was a major causal factor for the GFC.  The Sub Prime Mortgage holders in the US generally lived further from work than the average person because that was the only way they could get reasonably priced homes.  Eventually something had to give - the rising price of fuel resulted in widespread loan defaults because they could no longer afford to pay their mortgages.  

I'll see if I can find the original editorial on it.

Of course, the GFC has resulted in a lower demand for oil, which has given exploration some time to catch up with demand, so there might be another peak oil episode.  

I don't doubt that there were other factors that came into play about 2003 (including the invasion of Iraq) which helped reduce production, but it hasn't recovered to 2003 levels yet.



Muso,
You may find the following site of interest.

It's "the official" US Energy Information Administration site and it has a breakdown, by Country, by Region & Global. It also provides details going back to 1980.

http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/cfapps/ipdbproject/iedindex3.cfm?tid=5&pid=53&aid=1&cid=&syid=2000&eyid=2009&unit=TBPD

You may like to have a look at the global figures up to & after 2005.

Title: Re: The Peak Oil Debate
Post by gizmo_2655 on Jun 22nd, 2010 at 6:37pm
Oh, so Peak Oil...we're running out of oil again????

This will be the 5th time in my life time that we've run out of oil....

Yawn...

Title: Re: The Peak Oil Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jun 22nd, 2010 at 6:58pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 22nd, 2010 at 6:37pm:
Oh, so Peak Oil...we're running out of oil again????

This will be the 5th time in my life time that we've run out of oil....

Yawn...


So, is it possible then , that Oil Production Growth is an exception to the rule, along with Population Growth?

In fact, are all human needs, an exception to the rule?

Which rule, I hear you say?

The Exponential Growth Rule, which says that "Exponential Growth, on a finite planet, is impossible!"

Title: Re: The Peak Oil Debate
Post by gizmo_2655 on Jun 22nd, 2010 at 10:25pm

perceptions_now wrote on Jun 22nd, 2010 at 6:58pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 22nd, 2010 at 6:37pm:
Oh, so Peak Oil...we're running out of oil again????

This will be the 5th time in my life time that we've run out of oil....

Yawn...


So, is it possible then , that Oil Production Growth is an exception to the rule, along with Population Growth?

In fact, are all human needs, an exception to the rule?

Which rule, I hear you say?

The Exponential Growth Rule, which says that "Exponential Growth, on a finite planet, is impossible!"


Well considering we had an 'Oil Crisis' (Peak Oil ...'We're running out of Oil') in 1973, 1979, 1980-1986, 1990 and 2000-2003....

Forgive me for being cynical about the 'current' Peak Oil Crisis.......

After 37 years of hearing..."OH MY GOD, We're almost of OIL" it is starting to feel a bit like 'The Boy Who Cried WOLF!!!'....

Title: Re: The Peak Oil Debate
Post by gizmo_2655 on Jun 22nd, 2010 at 10:31pm
After almost 4 decades of warnings about 'We'll run out of Oil, next month/next year/in 5 years/in 10 years/by the turn of the century'....And watching the prices INCREASE each and every time a warning sounds....
It's starting to look like the 'OIL Crisis/Peak Oil' thing is fabricated by the oil prducing nations and/or the oil companies as an excuse to raise the $ per barrel rate......

Title: Re: The Peak Oil Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jun 23rd, 2010 at 4:08pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 22nd, 2010 at 10:31pm:
After almost 4 decades of warnings about 'We'll run out of Oil, next month/next year/in 5 years/in 10 years/by the turn of the century'....And watching the prices INCREASE each and every time a warning sounds....
It's starting to look like the 'OIL Crisis/Peak Oil' thing is fabricated by the oil prducing nations and/or the oil companies as an excuse to raise the $ per barrel rate......


The following chart, may assist, with where we have come from and where we are going.


Title: Re: The Peak Oil Debate
Post by gizmo_2655 on Jun 23rd, 2010 at 4:43pm

perceptions_now wrote on Jun 23rd, 2010 at 4:08pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 22nd, 2010 at 10:31pm:
After almost 4 decades of warnings about 'We'll run out of Oil, next month/next year/in 5 years/in 10 years/by the turn of the century'....And watching the prices INCREASE each and every time a warning sounds....
It's starting to look like the 'OIL Crisis/Peak Oil' thing is fabricated by the oil prducing nations and/or the oil companies as an excuse to raise the $ per barrel rate......


The following chart, may assist, with where we have come from and where we are going.



No perceptions, it doesn't help....mostly because it's a graph from a website that believes in the whole 'Peak Oil' story.

In the 1970's, we were told that we only had 6-12 months supply of oil left.....what happened?..Geologists went out and found more oil fields...result, we were no longer 'running' out of oil...

The 2003 peak oil panic was caused by the OPEC nations reducing the amount of oil pumped out of the wells...and of course, when a commidity becomes 'rare', the price goes up....under the 'laws' of  Supply and Demand..
Does that mean that the crude oil is running out?...NO not neccessarily....it just means the producers want to be paid more per barrel for the oil....

When I was growing up, there were ads on the TV every week, telling us how ESSO( I think, or it might have been Mobil) were finding and 'capping' an oil well per WEEK in Bass Strait and on the North-West Shelf of Western Australia....In order to 'secure Australia's Oil independance in the Future'....

So 2 wells per week equals 112 wells per year, and the adds ran for 5 or 10 years...

What does that mean?? It means the ONE company found between 560 and 1120 oil wells, just in Australia.....

Does THAT sound like we're short of oil?????

A normal oil well has an average life span of 20 years (or 22.5 years according to the Oildrum.com)...so 560x20 years...equals 11200 years worth of oil( providing we use each well until it runs out, then open the next one...which probably won't happen)...so lets have 10 wells running at a time.....11200 divided by 10 = 1120 years....

Have we 'Peaked' in our oil production in Australia?????

Title: Re: The Peak Oil Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jun 23rd, 2010 at 5:58pm

Quote:
Gizmo
In the 1970's, we were told that we only had 6-12 months supply of oil left.....what happened?..Geologists went out and found more oil fields...result, we were no longer 'running' out of oil...


That's not quite right, as the following graph shows, Oil discovery actually Peaked around 1964.




Quote:
Gizmo
The 2003 peak oil panic was caused by the OPEC nations reducing the amount of oil pumped out of the wells


That's not quite rught either, you may like to have a look at the following USA Energy Information Administration site (EIA), which has "official figures on various issues, including Production

http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/cfapps/ipdbproject/iedindex3.cfm?tid=5&pid=53&aid=1&cid=&syid=2000&eyid=2009&unit=TBPD


Quote:
Gizmo
Does that mean that the crude oil is running out?


No, it doesn't mean that, at least not now. But, the mere perception of Demand outstripping Supply is & was enought to send the Oil Price into orbit @ $147 P/barrel. And, the additional impost acted like a drag on the Global economy and was enough to slow the Global economy, in concert with other issues and send the share markets crashing.  

That said, if the Population Growth does not come back down to earth, so to speak, then Peak Oil will convert into NO Oil, very quickly!

Btw, you may also be "interested in the following graph of the Mexican Cantarell Field Production, which is now in rapid decline. After being one of the Worlds more recent discoveries, these fields are headed for oblivion, after the USA has sucked them dry.

Mexico has been the third largest supplier of Oil to the US, after Saudi Arabia & Canada, so the USA will now on the lookout for another major supplier? Iran?


Title: Re: The Peak Oil Debate
Post by gizmo_2655 on Jun 23rd, 2010 at 6:13pm
Perceptions, you don't seem to be getting my point.....

IF the whole 'Peak Oil' concept is a 'con' or 'excuse' involving price fixing.....then WHY would any of the graphs, lists or any other 'information' be reliable???

OPEC, the various Oil companies, AND the USA Energy Information Administration site (EIA), would be 'biased'.....

And before you say it....YES the various Governments would be quite happy to support 'artificially inflated prices'...because inflated prices means inflated TAXES...

Title: Re: The Peak Oil Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jun 23rd, 2010 at 7:46pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 23rd, 2010 at 6:13pm:
Perceptions, you don't seem to be getting my point.....

IF the whole 'Peak Oil' concept is a 'con' or 'excuse' involving price fixing.....then WHY would any of the graphs, lists or any other 'information' be reliable???

OPEC, the various Oil companies, AND the USA Energy Information Administration site (EIA), would be 'biased'.....

And before you say it....YES the various Governments would be quite happy to support 'artificially inflated prices'...because inflated prices means inflated TAXES...


Oh, I think I get where your coming from, I just don't agree that the facts fit with your conspiracy theory!

I agree there are certainly some smoke & mirrors games being played, but they are to try to continue the status quo, in Politics, Economics & in big Business!

If I am correct, we will not  see Oil Production recover and then grow, this side of the 2nd coming and along with the decline in Oil Production, will go the decline of the Global Economy, it will go down the toilet.

If you are correct, then Governments & Big Business (Oil company's), will continue to pilage us, for all they can, for as long as they can.

Wait on, perhaps your conspiracy sounds like a better option?

Title: Re: The Peak Oil Debate
Post by freediver on Jun 23rd, 2010 at 8:17pm
OPEC is involved in price fixing. That is the whole point of OPEC. They would be arrested if they did that within Australia.

However, peak oil is real and is nothing to do with OPEC. Getting yourself all confused about whether it is five peaks or one kind of misses the point.

Title: Re: The Peak Oil Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jun 23rd, 2010 at 8:22pm

freediver wrote on Jun 23rd, 2010 at 8:17pm:
OPEC is involved in price fixing. That is the whole point of OPEC. They would be arrested if they did that within Australia.

However, peak oil is real and is nothing to do with OPEC. Getting yourself all confused about whether it is five peaks or one kind of misses the point.


I don't disagree! OPEC or at least certain countries within OPEC are certainly making hay whilst the sun is shining, because when the music stops, their decline starts!

Title: Re: The Peak Oil Debate
Post by freediver on Jun 23rd, 2010 at 8:26pm

Quote:
are certainly making hay whilst the sun is shining


That is kind of an unfortunate choice of term. You do realise that OPEC is all about reducing output right? And that other non-OPEC countries increase their production to capitalise?

Title: Re: The Peak Oil Debate
Post by gizmo_2655 on Jun 23rd, 2010 at 9:36pm

perceptions_now wrote on Jun 23rd, 2010 at 8:22pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 23rd, 2010 at 8:17pm:
OPEC is involved in price fixing. That is the whole point of OPEC. They would be arrested if they did that within Australia.

However, peak oil is real and is nothing to do with OPEC. Getting yourself all confused about whether it is five peaks or one kind of misses the point.


I don't disagree! OPEC or at least certain countries within OPEC are certainly making hay whilst the sun is shining, because when the music stops, their decline starts!


And at the 'risk' of sounding cynical, or 'conspiratorial'...

That's the whole point to 'Peak Oil'.....price control...


Title: Re: The Peak Oil Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jun 23rd, 2010 at 10:00pm

freediver wrote on Jun 23rd, 2010 at 8:26pm:

Quote:
are certainly making hay whilst the sun is shining


That is kind of an unfortunate choice of term.


Not really, I thought it was quite apt, given the discussion!

Title: Re: The Peak Oil Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jun 23rd, 2010 at 10:16pm

freediver wrote on Jun 23rd, 2010 at 8:26pm:

Quote:
are certainly making hay whilst the sun is shining


You do realise that OPEC is all about reducing output right?


Oh, I can guarantee there are games being played and some OPEC countries are certainly into games!

But, many of the countries are also on the other side Hubberts Peak and they have no option, but to reduce Production!

Title: Re: The Peak Oil Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jun 23rd, 2010 at 10:50pm

freediver wrote on Jun 23rd, 2010 at 8:26pm:

Quote:
are certainly making hay whilst the sun is shining


And that other non-OPEC countries increase their production to capitalise?


Well, even though I don't completely trust the EIA figures, they do provide some insight into Production and the results are of interest -

Of those countries producing reasonable volumes,
Production Up -
Canada (up on poorer quality non conventional Oil - Higher cost of Production)
Azerbaijan
Kazakhstan
Angola
Brazil
Russia (the big gainer in last few years, taking advantage of Pricing, but likely to start to decline, shortly - 2011?

Production Down - all substantially down on Peaks
Mexico
Venezuela
Norway
UK

Production Steady -
Oman
Iran
Kuwait
Qatar
UAE
Algeria
Libya
Saudi Arabia (steady, but down 10% in 2009, suggested Ghawar is in Decline)

Others -
Iraq - Up & Down over the years, reasonably steady since 1999, notable exception in 2003 when it dropped off the radar! Wonder why?

Australia - Reasonably steady, in recent years, but well below Peak , which was in 2000
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/cfapps/ipdbproject/iedindex3.cfm?tid=5&pid=53&aid=1&cid=&syid=1980&eyid=2009&unit=TBPD#

Title: Re: The Peak Oil Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jun 24th, 2010 at 10:56am
World Oil Consumption Was Down in '09: U.S. Production Increased

In 2009 the world's consumption of oil fell by 1.7%. That is the second consecutive year of decline, but relative to a decade ago consumption is up 11.1%. This is a reflection of both the weak world economy and of conservation efforts spurred by the extremely high oil prices in 2008. Consumption in the U.S. fell much further, dropping by 4.9% in 2009, and it was actually 4.3% below what it was in 1999 when oil prices were extremely low, but the economy was booming.

Still in 2009, the U.S consumed 21.4% of the world's oil. The U.S. was actually able to increase its production of oil by 7.0%, although that feat is certainly not going to be repeated in 2010 given the moratorium on deep water drilling after the Transocean (RIG) deepwater Horizon went down in flames. Over the longer term U.S. production has been in a steady decline, and is 6.9% below the level of a decade ago. The U.S. is actually the world's third largest oil producer at 7.196 million barrels per day (Mb/d), or 8.5% of the world's total. That is more than Iran and Kuwait combined. Russia was the world's largest producer at 10.032 Mb/d, followed by Saudi Arabia at 9.713 Mb/d.

The U.S. was not the only major country with the biggest reduction in oil usage last year. Japan's consumption plunged 10.7% and is 21.5% below where it was a decade ago. Most of the major European countries had declines in consumption that were roughly in line with the decline in the U.S., ranging from a 3.5% decline in France to a 6.3% drop in Italy. Over the longer run though, the major European countries have reduced their consumption significantly more than the U.S. has. For example, consumption in Germany in 2009 was 14.2% below 1999 levels and in Italy it was down by 20.2% over the course of the decade.

The consumption declines in the developed world were offset by increased usage in the developing world. Most significant of these is, of course, China, where oil consumption rose by 6.7% in 2009 and is up 92.7% over the course of the last decade. India burned 3.8% more oil in 2009 than it did in 2008, and 49.2% more than it did in 1999.
One area of the world that has really been increasing its oil consumption rapidly is the oil-producing countries. Both Saudi Arabia and Kuwait increased their consumption by 9.8% in 2009 and their consumption is up 69.4% and 72.4%, respectively over the last decade. From the U.S. perspective, the important number for the big producers is not just how much they can produce, but how much they have available for export.

Even with the U.S. decline in 2009, the U.S. still consumes a massive amount of oil relative to the rest of the world. In 2009, the U.S. consumed 21.7% of the world's oil. That is more than China, India and all of Central and South America combined. While being able to increase production by 7.0% was a nice accomplishment, it is not sustainable. We already produce 8.5% of the world's oil, but we have just 2.1% of the reserves.

On the other hand, the reserve figures for most of the rest of the world are, in a word, flakey. OPEC sets its production quotas on the basis of reserves, and the reserves it uses are pretty much whatever the member governments say they are. Back in the 1980s, that lead to most of the countries vastly increasing their reserves without actually finding more oil. Since then even though they have been procuring heavily, the reserves have not declined, and indeed in many areas crept upwards. Only in the oil industry is it possible to take a positive real number and then subtract a positive real number and not have the original number decline. That process did not end in the 1980s either.

The biggest news in the world in terms of new oil finds over the last decade have been the finds off the coast of Brazil by Petrobras (PBR) . However since 1999, Brazil's (not a member of OPEC) reserves have only increased by 4.6 billion barrels or 56.0%. On the other hand, Venezuela's reserves have shot up by 95.5 billion barrels, or 124.4%. Did you hear about the massive new finds in Venezuela over the last few years, an oil find that is truly world changing? Funny, neither did I. It's far more likely that Hugo Chavez is full of it. Thus, it is very possible that the U.S. has a higher percentage of the world's oil reserves than the 2.1% shown by BP. However, that would be because the rest of the world, particularly OPEC, is vastly overstating the amount of oil they have.

While the decline in overall world oil consumption in 2009 is encouraging, it is probably mostly a reflection of a weak global economy. America in particular needs to continue finding ways of using oil more efficiently and to find alternative sources of energy. The combination of 21.7% of world consumption, 8.5% of world production and 2.1% of world reserves is simply not sustainable over the long run.
Link -
http://seekingalpha.com/article/211300-world-oil-consumption-was-down-in-09-u-s-production-increased?source=email
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Title: Re: The Peak Oil Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jun 26th, 2010 at 12:09pm
FUTURE WINDOWS

Written in mid 2006, this contained 6 Possible, Major Influencing Events, including this one, relating to -


4) PEAK OIL
Event Initiator
- First reports that production can not keep pace with consumption, due to insufficient reserves.

Event Start Date
- Within 5 years.

Event Outcome/s
- Significant, to rampant increase in Oil related product pricing.
- Significantly increase inflationary pressure.
- Significant problems, in replacing Oil base, in many product lines.
- Immediate, knee-jerk reaction to implement Nuclear power.
- Increased, subsequent push for Green alternatives.

Event Duration
- 20 to 30 years

Event Probabilities
- Within 5 years, 80 to 20.
- Worse Case Scenario, 60-40.

Title: Re: The Peak Oil Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jun 27th, 2010 at 4:25pm
Btw, in parts 4 & 5 of the following Dr Bartlet video, he refers to the medium Peak Oil date nominated by industry insiders was 2004 and those video's where put together around 1999.

A look at the Oil graph posted  4.08pm June 23rd, shows that Oil did in fact effectively plateau around 2004-2005.

Link (Dr. Albert A. Bartlett - Arithmetic, Population, and Energy) –
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=9B70AC68E1D2AA54&search_query=Dr.+Albert+Bartlett%3A+Arithmetic%2C+Population+and+Energy+Parts+1-8

Link (The Crash Course – Chris Martenson) -
http://www.chrismartenson.com/crashcourse

I highly commend both of the above sites, as they contain an  enormous amount of information on Energy, Population, Economics & more!

Title: Re: The Peak Oil Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jul 7th, 2010 at 5:04pm
Canterell now Sub-500k bpd and Colin Campbell Talks Peak Oil

We’re getting closer to the edge – actually, we may have already fallen off the edge and are experiencing the side-effects of expensive oil. The erosion of the Canterell field in Mexico only increases US dependence on its quasi-enemies for economic growth.



The Cantarell fields were a relatively recent discovery, with most of its production going to the USA. However, as its production declines, the USA will be forced to look elsewhere for its third largest supplier of crude oil.
Cantarell Wiki link -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantarell_Field
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There is also a useful video at the following link, which is an interview of Colin Campbell, who is a Petroleum Geologist & Peak Oil specialist. This includes reference to the North Sea Oil having declined from its Peak in 1989 of around 4.5 million bpd, to a current production of around 1.5 million bpd.

http://www.planbeconomics.com/2010/06/29/canterell-now-sub-500k-bpd-and-colin-campbell-talks-peak-oil/

Title: Re: The Peak Oil Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jul 10th, 2010 at 9:57pm
Richard Heinberg Interview Part 1 (Peak Oil)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHXdS9XYVs8&feature=player_embedded#!

Richard Heinberg Interview Part 2 (Peak Oil)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osbQ9UHMAvY&feature=related

Richard Heinberg is another whose logic, I can agree with, in some instances, regretably!

Are we humans, better than yeast?
I don't know, we will find out!

Title: Re: The Peak Oil Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jul 12th, 2010 at 12:02pm
Australian crude oil production to decline by 85% over the next 10 years



What we can see from this graph (note the inserted comment is by the author of this paper):

Crude oil production from known oil fields will dramatically decline by 85% over the next 10 years ( 1 – (105 + 0.14*152) / 890 = 0.85 )
This decline is offset by condensate from wet gas (mainly in LNG projects) but because of a lack of condensate splitters in Australian refineries 95% of this is exported.
The prospect for new oil discoveries is not very good. Geologically, Australia is better off with natural gas
Since global oil export volumes are shrinking at the same time (details below), Australia will slide into a huge oil import crisis. The government hopes coal-to-liquids, gas-to-liquids and 2nd generation bio fuels will come to the rescue but it is very uncertain whether that will materialize in the quantities required, at acceptable prices and the timeline dictated by events surrounding the global peaking of oil production.

These events in the next years include

an oil war or oil proxy war in the Middle East
social unrest in ME countries when declining OPEC oil production
impacts on budgets and subsidies for the general population
oil hoarding and freezing of oil markets when the truth comes out about OPEC’s overstated reserves and confidence in all oil reserve data disappears

In any case, the energy profit ratios of  alternative  fuels will be very low:

6/1/2010
Diminishing Returns of Fossil Fuel Energy Invested
http://www.crudeoilpeak.com/?p=909

Let’s check how the above graph compares with previous government reports. This figure 6 is from Geoscience Australia’s 2005 submission 127 to the Senate Inquiry on Oil Supplies:[2]



It shows 3 projections up to 2025: P10, P50 and P90. Each number denotes the probability in percent that this projection will actually occur. Strangely, the AERA report does not show different probabilities. So let’s superimpose the 2 graphs to see where we are:



We can see from the graph:

The actual crude production curve (black line 2006-2009) has just hit the P90 estimate from 2005. It remains to be seen whether it will follow the new projection (light blue columns)
A lot of condensate has been added and that assumes all LNG projects go ahead as planned.
Read more about:

Australian oil reserves and resources, how AERA omits Geoscience Australia’s conservative 2P reserves
AERA’s misldeading statement about “enough” oil for 42 years and a factually incorrect “balanced” oil supply
The problems with propane deficient LPG, propane imports on the East coast and butane exports from the West coast
Timelines about global net oil exports shrinking and Australia’s coming oil import crisis
Lack of a Strategic Oil Reserve
Need to save oil in a hurry
3 examples of road projects which make no sense in a period of declining oil production: new Clem7  road tunnel in Brisbane, Hunter freeway and Western freeway in Melbourne
by downloading the full article of 10 pages as PDF file:  Australian Crude Oil Decline 85 Percent Over 10 Years [1.27 MB]
Link -
http://www.crudeoilpeak.com/?p=1243
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I think that OZ became net Oil importers, again, around 2000-2002. If these charts become reality, then the cost of Oil (read Energy) to the Australian Economy will become much greater, over the next decade, as will our reliance on following the USA into Oil Conflicts!

Title: Re: The Peak Oil Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jul 12th, 2010 at 10:04pm
Lloyd’s adds its voice to dire ‘peak oil’ warnings

The Lloyd’s insurance market and the highly regarded Institute of Strategic Studies (ISS, known as Chatham House) says Britain needs to be ready for “peak oil” and disrupted energy supplies at a time of soaring fuel demand in China and India, constraints on production caused by the BP oil spill and political moves to cut CO2 to halt global warming.

“Companies which are able to take advantage of this new energy reality will increase both their resilience and competitiveness. Failure to do so could lead to expensive and potentially catastrophic consequences,” says the Lloyd’s and ISS report “Sustainable energy security: strategic risks and opportunities for business”.

The insurance market has a major interest in preparedness to counter climate change because of the fear of rising insurance claims related to property damage and business disruption. The review is groundbreaking because it comes from the heart of the City and contains the kind of dire warnings that are more associated with environmental groups or others accused by critics of resorting to hype. It takes a pot shot at the International Energy Agency which has been under fire for apparently under-estimating the threats, noting: “IEA expectations [on crude output] over the last decade have generally gone unmet.”

The report the world is heading for a global oil supply crunch and high prices owing to insufficient investment in oil production plus a rebound in global demand following recession. It repeats warning from Professor Paul Stevens, a former economist from Dundee University, at an earlier Chatham House conference that lack of oil by 2013 could force the price of crude above $200 (£130) a barrel.

It also quotes from a US department of energy report highlighting the economic chaos that would result from declining oil production as global demand continued to rise, recommending a crash programme to overhaul the transport system. “Even before we reach peak oil,” says the Lloyd’s report, “we could witness an oil supply crunch because of increased Asian demand. Major new investment in energy takes 10-15 years from the initial investment to first production, and to date we have not seen the amount of new projects that would supply the projected increase in demand.”

And while the world is gradually moving to new kinds of clean energy technologies the insurance market warns that there could be shortages of earth metals and other raw materials needed to help them thrive.

Lloyd’s also calls on manufacturers, retailers and the wider business community to reassess global supply chains and their just-in time models because the “current system is increasingly vulnerable to disruption.”

The report says government needs to do much more to bring additional price stability and transparency if the global carbon market is to become a reality.

Richard Ward, chief executive of Lloyd’s, said the failure of the Copenhagen climate change talks last December has helped lull many business leaders into a false sense of security about the challenges ahead. “We are in a period akin to a phony war. We keep hearing of difficulties to come, but with oil, gas and coal still broadly accessible – and largely capable of being distributed where they are needed – the bad times have not yet hit … all businesses … will be affected by energy supplies which are less reliable and more expensive.”
Link -
http://peakoil.com/bussiness/lloyds-adds-its-voice-to-dire-peak-oil-warnings/
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Having spent over 40 years in the financial sector, largely in insurance, I concur that risk assessment & early preventative medication, is much more preferably than trying to remedy problems, after they have occured.

And, in this case, the lead in times are enormous!

Title: Re: The Peak Oil Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jul 12th, 2010 at 10:12pm
Looking ahead to When the tank runs dry

Addiction is defined as the state of being enslaved to something to such an extent that its cessation causes severe trauma. It is usually associated with drugs or alcohol. But, my fellow citizens, we all have an addiction problem: we're addicted to fossil fuels: oil, coal and natural gas.


Hooked

We began falling under their spell during the industrial revolution, when the steam engine was invented. It ran on coal and vastly improved life for our forefathers because it did work previously done manually.

Steamships and locomotives came next, then power plants and the internal combustion engine that is still used in vehicles worldwide today. Plastics - derived from oil - revolutionized consumer products and nitrogen-based fertilizers - derived from natural gas - enabled us to grow more food.

As a result, today we consume nearly 50 times more fossil fuel than we consumed in 1850. In 2008, fossil fuels provided an incredible 86 per cent of the energy used by humanity worldwide. We rely on them to grow and process our food; to purify and pump our water; to run our hospitals and schools; and to get around.

We rely on them every day, in every way. We're truly addicted.


A looming supply problem

Compounding our problem is the fact that we are addicted to something non-renewable: once it's gone, it's gone.

Consider oil. Wells that supply water to our homes are virtually bottomless, because they are continuously refilled by groundwater. Oil wells are different: there's only so much oil down there, so they eventually run dry. Historically we've simply moved on and found new ones. As the old lumberjack's cry goes, "There's always more wood over the next hill!"

But our voracious addiction has meant that all the easy oil is now gone. In the past few decades, we haven't been as successful at finding new wells to replace the ones that are running dry.

These days, we're down to dirty tar sands or drilling offshore to find more oil - much like an addict reduced to using a vein in a toe because all other veins have become scarred beyond use. Both have huge environmental implications. Devastating as it is, the Deepwater oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico is a predictable consequence of our addiction.

Credible energy analysts such as Dave Hughes and Jeff Rubin (Why Your World Is About To Get A Whole Lot Smaller) believe the day when global oil demand exceeds supply is not very far away. It's called Peak Oil theory, and it has some troubling implications. The first will be higher prices, for just about everything. The next will be shortages, ditto.

When the supply of the substance that underpins your society starts to run tight, you're wise to be concerned. Cuba experienced turmoil when its oil supply dried up in 1989 after the collapse of the Soviet Union. It survived - but Cuba has no cold winter and can grow food year round. Canadians, far more addicted to fossil fuels than most, should be especially uneasy.


Rehab or cold turkey

If Peak Oil theory is true - and overwhelming logic offers no clear reason to doubt it is - we have an addiction to break, quickly.

We have two options: we can choose a rehab program that involves, in order: 1) greatly reducing our energy demand; 2) using what we do use as efficiently as possible; and 3) developing renewable energy sources.

Or we can choose to do nothing, and just let things come to pass. But that's unwise. It's better to plan for the day when there is no gas at the local station, than to simply show up one day with an empty tank to find there is none.
Link -
http://telegraphjournal.canadaeast.com/magazine/article/1131278
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Try telling that to the folks on Easter Island?

Title: Re: The Peak Oil Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jul 13th, 2010 at 3:26pm

Quote:
perceptions-now
In fact, if current rates of Economic & Population growth were to continue, which I suspect they won't, then coal could go the same as Oil is now & NG will within 20-30 years, whilst Coal may take slightly longer at 40-60 years.

It really does DEPEND on what changes we make to Economic & Population GROWTH, now & in the immediate future!



Quote:
muso
I don't know where you get your figures from, but it's more like 500 years for coal, and that's a conservative estimate. We have enormous reserves of coal worldwide. For example, some coal producing basins in Australia have not even been touched yet.
 
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Muso/freediver,
You may be interested in the following comments, from the World Coal Institute -

"It has been estimated that there are over 847 billion tonnes of proven coal reserves worldwide. This means that there is enough coal to last us around 119 years at current rates of production. In contrast, proven oil and gas reserves are equivalent to around 46 and 63 years at current production levels."
http://www.worldcoal.org/coal/where-is-coal-found/
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So, what we have above is the Coal industry saying there are 119 years of Coal left, Globally.

However, as I previously mentioned, there is usually a rider to these statements, saying "at Current levels" or as they have done here " at current rates of production".

So, let's add an "acceptable" rate of growth of say 5%, which means the current usage/production doubles in 14 years, then doubles again at the end of another 14 years.

That means that the Coal Industries own figure of 119 years, suddenly becomes 40 years or less, if only 5% growth becomes reality and China is currently going along at 10% growth, with the rest of the world in a slight decline, due to the GFC.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jul 14th, 2010 at 4:09pm
The Chinese Coal Monster

•China set to consume 50% of global coal production this year
•Production and consumption roughly in balance
•Coal imports used for stock pile growth?
•Consumption growing >10% year on year in line with economic growth
•Rest of world consumption declined 7% in 2009









Threat to global economy
Should China ever fail to match coal consumption with indigenous production then 1 of 3 things may happen. The first option is that consumption is pegged back to match stalled production and this would stall Chinese economic growth with knock on effects to the global economy. The second option is that China tries to meet any shortfall buying coal on the international market. As already pointed out China is such a huge consumer of coal this would create great competition in the international market for limited supplies leading to severe upwards pressure on coal prices. The third option is that China somehow manages to install sufficient nuclear capacity to plug any energy gap
Link -
http://europe.theoildrum.com/node/6700
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There are other threats!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jul 14th, 2010 at 4:25pm
Planning for Europe's Energy Future: My Submission to the Commission's 2010 Consultation on Energy





Link -
http://europe.theoildrum.com/node/6694

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jul 18th, 2010 at 12:11pm
Uk Energy Security and Peak Oil by Simon Snowden (Parts 1-5)

The following short video's give a perspective of Peak Oil and how it is affecting us now & will affect us in the future.

Also includes references to business & the economy in general.

There are some good points raised, however the presenter is not another Lord Munckton.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl10Vp2aKuU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CaviX2-kqY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jkaH9tLArM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZBYz7B2aMw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA57wQv4O5M&feature=related


Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jul 18th, 2010 at 3:04pm
Just on way out, I will post full article later.

But I thought this chart was worth a look, purely to show some of the "official misdirection" of Governments & their agencies!


Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by Thy.Equitist on Jul 18th, 2010 at 3:14pm


perceptions_now wrote on Jul 18th, 2010 at 3:04pm:
Just on way out, I will post full article later.

But I thought this chart was worth a look, purely to show some of the "official misdirection" of Governments & their agencies!



That's a fascinating graph - thanks Perceptions!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jul 18th, 2010 at 10:34pm
OPEC Going Sideways: Not a Good Time for Oil Importers

OPEC tells us it has lots of spare capacity, but how much should we believe them? Even when prices were much higher than they are now, back in 2008, they did not make use of all of the spare capacity that they supposedly had.


When one looks at a history of estimates of future productive capacity, we find too, that they have tended to decrease over time (up until the new 2010 report)--also raising questions about current estimates.

The International Energy Agency (IEA) recently put out its Mid Term Oil and Gas Market Report 2010 (MTOMR 2010). Although the report talks about a 7.1 million barrel a day decline between now and 2015 when all of the anticipated new capacity is added, total capacity is expected to increase from 34.85 barrels per day to 35.78 barrels a day (page 82) in that time period.


According to this table, the Iraq is expected to have the largest increase in capacity (amounting to .97 million barrels a day). The second largest increase in capacity is Saudi Arabia, and the third largest increase in capacity is UAE. Iran is expected to have the largest decrease in capacity.

The question is, "Will this large an increase in capacity really result in higher production?"

If we look at historical forecasts of capacity, alongside actual production, we discover a pattern not unlike that recently shown by Steve Kopits with respect to the EIA forecasts. The forecasted amounts keep coming down!


Each year, from the 2006 to the 2009 report, the medium term oil market reports bring the estimated capacity down by about 2 million barrels a day. In 2010, the capacity estimates increased a bit, but mainly because of Iraq.

More importantly, a huge gap between capacity and actual production has developed, suggesting there is plenty of spare capacity. While one may argue the 2009 drop in production was the result of less oil demand after Lehman Brother’s collapse, and financial turmoil and recession that followed, these adverse conditions did not exist in the 1st half of 2008 when the economy was booming and high oil prices encouraged maximum production. Yet, OPEC’s claimed oil production capacity did not turn into actual production!
Link -
http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6738
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Now, what was it that Don chip used to say, about keeping them honest?
Oh, yes, they are all bastards or something similar?

There are statistics, damned statistics & then there are government stats?  

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by Australian Constitution on Jul 19th, 2010 at 5:03am

perceptions_now wrote on Jun 19th, 2010 at 10:40am:
Our Dependency on Foreign Oil

Jon Stewart's eight minute piece illustrating the populist talking point that is U.S. Presidents vowing to reduce our dependence on foreign oil is a must watch. Click and watch and laugh at the absurdity of the ceaseless rhetoric, which continued this week.
As Stewart says, "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me eight times - am I a smacking idiot?"

embedded video:


The Daily Show With Jon Stewart Mon - Thurs 11p / 10c
An Energy-Independent Future
http://seekingalpha.com/article/210687-our-dependency-on-foreign-oil?source=email
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A definate, must watch!

This guy is good, funny & makes the points, well!

Btw, the "Seeking Alpha" site, is quite good for a variety of "financial perspectives".


There is a 'hacker' by true definition of the word not the media interpretation that is developing a technology that could be like a fuse core generator that could run on Depleted Uranium for 50 YEARS this company owns the patent but I am not sure if it is this particular company.

http://cleantechnica.com/2009/02/02/terrapower-developing-nuclear-reactors-that-run-on-depleted-uranium/

http://fora.tv/2007/09/27/Implementing_Science_Fiction#fullprogram

Jump to Chapter 12 and 13 if you want to see what they are doing about the 'hacking of ideas' it should be about the depleted uranium generator.

The actual reactor just burns depleted uranium up and when its done supposedly there is nothing harmful left.

Title: Re: The Peak Oil Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jul 19th, 2010 at 6:10pm

Quote:
perceptions_now
are certainly making hay whilst the sun is shining



Quote:
freediver
That is kind of an unfortunate choice of term. You do realise that OPEC is all about reducing output right? And that other non-OPEC countries increase their production to capitalise?


There are actually some ups & some downs, both inside of OPEC & outside of OPEC.

But overall, it seems most countries are struggling to keep up with production, as can be seen by looking thru the following EIA site figures!

http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/cfapps/ipdbproject/iedindex3.cfm?tid=5&pid=53&aid=1&cid=&syid=1990&eyid=2009&unit=TBPD

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by moh on Jul 20th, 2010 at 11:35am
bring out the free energy technology that the government of the world has been hiding, then there will be no debating about oil.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jul 20th, 2010 at 11:48am
Lloyd's 'Sustainable Energy Security' White Paper - Some hits; some misses

First, what does it get right? The big thing it gets right is what it lists as Conclusion 2:
2. Traditional fossil fuel resources face serious supply constraints and an oil supply crunch is likely in the short-to-medium term with profound consequences for the way in which business functions today.

Some other things it seems to get right include these points, listed as "Conclusions" to the report:

1. Energy security is now inseparable from the transition to a low-carbon economy and businesses plans should prepare for this new reality.

5. Increasing energy costs as a result of reduced availability, higher global demand and carbon pricing are best tackled in the short term by changes in practices or via the use of technology to reduce energy consumption.

6. The sooner that businesses reassess global supply chains and just-in-time models, and increase the resilience of their logistics against energy supply disruptions, the better.

7. While the vast majority of investment in the energy transition will come from the private sector, governments have an important role in delivering policies and measures that create the necessary investment conditions and incentives.

Where the Report Misleads
High Tech Alternatives


One of the problems I have with the report is the assumption that the world should be planning to transition to high tech alternatives. Furthermore, the report seems to say that there is lots of money to be made during the transition by those who plan right.

The report starts out with the following quote:

“In some cases, the surprise element is only a matter of timing: an energy transition, for example is inevitable; the only questions are when and how abruptly or smoothly such a transition occurs. An energy transition from one type of fuel (fossil fuels) to another (alternative) is an event that historically has only happened once a century at most with momentous consequences.”

I very much agree with the basic statement, that energy transitions take place at most once a century, with momentous consequences. We know we are reaching limits on oil, and that in not too long we will have to transition away from fossil fuels all together. The big question in my mind is what we transition to.

The Main Impact of Oil Shortages will be High Prices

The report seems to assume throughout the standard belief that oil shortages will cause high prices. There is an assumption, too, that this is all still in the future.

It seems to me that the biggest impact of oil shortages is recession--something that is not even mentioned in the report, and something that companies would do well to learn to adapt to. This means companies would probably do best to concentrate on basics, since people are likely to be buying fewer and fewer discretionary items.

What tends to happen if oil prices rise is that people will find the price of essentials (food, gasoline for transportation to work, and perhaps home heating costs) rising. With these prices higher, consumers will cut back on discretionary spending--vacation trips, new higher-priced homes, new cars, and going out to eat for example. These cutbacks will have a recessionary impact, and will tend to bring down the price of oil (as well as raise unemployment). Many people will find it harder to find the funds to repay loans (either because of the higher price of oil, or because they have been laid off from work, in the recessionary aftermath), so debt defaults will rise greatly as well.


Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by moh on Jul 20th, 2010 at 11:59am
We are do depent on oil that we go to war on it, we polute with and we dont even need the f#$%en thing, free energy technology isnt a joke, it does exsit and is available NOW,  why not use it....greed, Money.....

Theres a guy in australia who has built magnetic generator, it can produce up to 500hp of clean free energy using magnets, these can be used to power homes, offices, factories and much more, yet these technologies are bared, and bought and kept hidden by the government and oil companies.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jul 20th, 2010 at 12:00pm
Lloyd's 'Sustainable Energy Security' White Paper - Some hits; some misses (Cont)

While the report seems to indicate this is all in the future, it is really something that we are already experiencing, starting not long after world oil production hit a plateau in 2005.



We have already begun seeing recessionary impacts and problems with the credit system. We have seen very high oil prices, and a drop back in these high prices to prices which are lower, but still high by pre-2005 standards. In the years ahead, recessionary impacts and credit problems are likely to get worse. It is unclear to what extent oil prices will really rise and stay at extremely high levels.

Insurance companies are likely to be hit particularly hard by loan defaults, because many of their assets are bonds. For example, there are many municipalities that are having difficulties maintaining tax revenues, and may have difficulty repaying their debt.

Natural Gas as Transition Fuel

The other area where the report misleads is in giving more hope to natural gas as a transition fuel than would seem to be warranted.

There may be some potential for a small ramp up in natural gas production, but we need to remember that a major change in infrastructure to accommodate a much larger natural gas supply will take many years and significant fossil fuel resources.

But it is not clear there is really all that much more natural gas. First, the amount of natural gas used today is less than that of oil, so expanding natural gas to replace oil is not something that can really be considered. But even raising the current amount by say, 30%, is likely to be difficult. One of the issues is how much can be produced at affordable prices. If the prices are much higher than today, there may be some of the same issues with recession and cutback in demand as with high priced oil. And there are concerns that a huge expansion of natural gas will require drilling in populated areas, with possible environmental issues associated with fracking. A transition to natural gas as a primary fuel source--assuming we really do have enough--would likely take 40 years as Smil indicates, and by that time what natural gas we have would likely be gone.

The report seems to suggest natural gas might be used as a transition fuel, but if high tech alternatives that don't rely on fossil fuels really are lacking, it is doubtful that there will really be a new fuel supply to transition to--especially one that will permit business as usual.
Oil Drum Link -
http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6743
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Anyone that has not looked into the Oil Drum site, I reccommend Gail the Actuary (this articles author), she is a senior writer and has a good grasp of the issues!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by freediver on Jul 20th, 2010 at 7:28pm

Quote:
Theres a guy in australia who has built magnetic generator, it can produce up to 500hp of clean free energy using magnets, these can be used to power homes, offices, factories and much more, yet these technologies are bared, and bought and kept hidden by the government and oil companies.


I have a bridge for sale. Interested?

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jul 20th, 2010 at 7:57pm

Quote:
Moh
Theres a guy in australia who has built magnetic generator, it can produce up to 500hp of clean free energy using magnets, these can be used to power homes, offices, factories and much more, yet these technologies are bared, and bought and kept hidden by the government and oil companies.



Quote:
freediver
I have a bridge for sale. Interested?


As the saying says, never say never, but like Fusion Reactors, these new Energy sources keep being talked about, but that's as far as it goes!

Btw, freediver, does your bridge have Harbour views?

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by Soren on Jul 20th, 2010 at 8:27pm

freediver wrote on Jul 20th, 2010 at 7:28pm:

Quote:
Theres a guy in australia who has built magnetic generator, it can produce up to 500hp of clean free energy using magnets, these can be used to power homes, offices, factories and much more, yet these technologies are bared, and bought and kept hidden by the government and oil companies.


I have a bridge for sale. Interested?


I am. It's not too far, is it?

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jul 21st, 2010 at 12:09am
Congressman Bartlett and Peak Oil Revisited
This is US Congressman Bartlett, as distinct from Dr Albert Bartlett, but perhaps they are related, as they have some similarity in their messages.

In one section Congressman Bartlett points Global Oil usage in a single decade, being the same as Oil usage in all of previous history!

He also points to Peak Oil being a known certainty, for quite some time, but that moves have not been made to solve the upcoming crisis!  

The chart showing in part 2 is of interest because it shows how Global Oil discovery Peaked back in the 1960's and has been falling ever since and Consumption is now beginning to Decline, as is Production. 

Congressman Bartlett and Peak Oil Revisited [Part 1]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gtkq5DdcgYA

Congressman Bartlett and Peak Oil Revisited [Part 2]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2M-_5oQCik

Congressman Bartlett and Peak Oil Revisited [Part 3]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6hzZ1w-1As




Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jul 21st, 2010 at 12:27pm
China Tops U.S. in Energy Use

China has passed the U.S. to become the world's biggest energy consumer, according to new data from the International Energy Agency, a milestone that reflects both China's decades-long burst of economic growth and its rapidly expanding clout as an industrial giant.



China's ascent marks "a new age in the history of energy," IEA chief economist Fatih Birol said in an interview. The country's surging appetite has transformed global energy markets and propped up prices of oil and coal in recent years, and its continued growth stands to have long-term implications for U.S. energy security.

China overtook it at breakneck pace. China's total energy consumption was just half that of the U.S. 10 years ago, but in many of the years since, China saw annual double-digit growth rates. It had been expected to pass the U.S. about five years from now, but took the top position earlier because the global recession hit the U.S. more severely, slowing American industrial activity and energy use.

China's economic rise has required enormous amounts of energy—especially since much of the past decade's growth was fueled not by consumer demand, as in the U.S., but from energy-intense heavy industry and infrastructure building.
China's growing energy demands will present new challenges to U.S. foreign policy, as well as to international efforts to reduce emissions of greenhouse gases linked to climate change. China National Petroleum Co., the country's biggest oil company, is pushing forward with oil and gas projects in Iran, despite U.S. efforts to enforce sanctions against the Tehran government.

Beijing has refused to agree to cap its overall growth in its consumption of fossil fuels, or reduce its emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases.

China's growth has transformed global energy markets and sustained higher prices for everything from oil to uranium and other natural resources that the country has been consuming. Once, China was a major exporter of both oil and coal.

China's rapidly expanding need for energy promises to have major geopolitical implications as it hunts for ways to satisfy its needs. Already, China's rising imports have changed global geopolitics. Chinese oil and coal companies have been looking overseas in their quest to secure energy supplies, pitching the Chinese flag in places like Sudan, which Western companies had largely abandoned under international pressure.

Voracious energy demand also helps explain why China—which gets most of its electricity from coal, the most polluting of fossil fuels—passed the U.S. in 2007 as the world's largest emitter of carbon-dioxide emissions and other greenhouse gases.

In the past, being the world's biggest consumer of fossil fuels went hand in hand with being its dominant economy.

Before China joined the WTO, most international prognosticators, including the IEA, predicted energy demand would increase at an annual rate of 3% to 4% from 2000 to 2010. Demand wound up growing four times faster than they predicted.
Link -
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703720504575376712353150310.html#project%3DCHENERGY0719%26articleTabs%3Darticle
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One of the problems with an ETS style tax in Australia &/or the USA etc, is that unless the tax is sufficiently large, as to severely hurt the Publics disposable income and therefore curtail their economic activity and therefore drastically bring down the economy, it will be consigned to being only maginally effective (locally), in respect of GHG emissions and in fact, be used primarily as a tax raising avenue.

However, Globally, a much greater impact will be felt in GHG emissions, from the likes of China, India & others, who would continue to surge ahead with their Economic/Industrial reforms, thus resulting in huge GHG increases, via Coal power stations & increased middle class activity.

Regrettably, this is NOT SUSTAINABLE and tipping points, will be tripped!  
 

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jul 22nd, 2010 at 1:34pm
FACTBOX-Oil reserves: declining - but how fast?

(Reuters) - A declaration by Venezuela last week
that it hopes soon to overtake Saudi Arabia as the country with
the biggest oil reserves has stoked debate on how much oil and
gas the world really has left. OPEC said last week its proven crude oil reserves rose 4 percent in 2009 to 1.06 trillion barrels, led by an increase in Venezuela.  
BP estimated last month total global oil reserves were over 1.33 trillion barrels -- equivalent to more than 40 years of consumption at current rates..
But many industry analysts have cast doubt on these figures, saying estimates may be inflated for a variety of reasons.
Link -
http://af.reuters.com/article/commoditiesNews/idAFLDE6681JK20100721
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So, given what are most likely inflated figures of 1.33 TRILLION BARRELS OF CURRENT, GLOBAL OIL RESERVES, which in the usual jargon will last over 40 years at current consumption rates, does anyone know how long it is likely to last, in real life, in the real world???

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jul 23rd, 2010 at 8:42pm
North Sea Oil’s New Boom

I’ve been hearing dark mutterings about the imminent ‘end of North Sea oil’ all my life, with the dramatic impact that would have for the UK economy. North Sea oil was a diminishing resource that would be “gone by the end of the century” experts constantly assured back in the 1970s. But the rigs just kept right on drilling and producing into the new century – and the experts just kept right on being confounded. And it looks like they are to be confounded yet again as a new North Sea boom is set to boost oil reserves – and the UK’s economy.
And the hits just keep on coming
Bizarrely, as the oil giant BP – and its share price – flounders, the British oil and gas sector is experiencing a new boom, in the North Sea and beyond (see Falkland Islands link below), the newfound confidence being best exemplified in a string of drilling successes for British independents like Dana Petroleum. Dana has recently announced discoveries in the North Sea, Egypt and Morocco, sending its share price on a steady upward tack.

In April, Dana announced a find of approximately 130 billion cubic feet of gas in its Platypus prospect in the southern North Sea. In May, the company’s skyrocketing confidence saw it enter into an agreement to buy out PetroCanada Netherlands, boosting its own North Sea holdings from 36 to 54 fields, including 15 new fields. In June Dana announced a new North Sea oilfield discovery at West Rinnes before announcing two more for its North Africa holdings, one in Egypt, one in Morocco.

Almost inevitably, Dana’s ‘string of hits’ has attracted attention from the bigger oil companies. In July, amidst interest from China’s large national oil companies, a takeover bid was formally issued by the Korea National Oil Corporation, sending Dana’s share price spiralling up another 17 percent.

Elsewhere in the North Sea, the large Catcher prospect, held between British independents Encore Oil, Premier Oil, Wintershall and Agora Oil and Gas, represents a section of rich formation. Catcher is estimated to hold 150-300 million barrels – worth around £1 billion/$1.4 billion in terms of boosting UK Government coffers. Encore Oil’s further tests at Catcher suggest that figure too could be “very significantly” increased in the future.

Extrapolating the North Sea Experience
More significantly, there is no reason to doubt that the North Sea story of renewed viability and new, if more difficult to extract, prospects can be replicated in other parts of the world. And it makes a nonsense of peak oil theories that predict steep and imminent decline for global oil reserves.

A resurgent UK North Sea oil industry has real implications for panicky peak oil assessments. Not only does it offer a hard lesson in the impact of “above the ground” economic factors on extraction, it offers a major case study that could be extrapolated across the globe.
Link -
http://www.energytribune.com/articles.cfm/4747/North-Sea-Oils-New-Boom-
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So, there is a new BOOM, all is well with the North Sea, the UK & world Oil production?

Well according to the EIA figures, which usually paint a slight rosy picture, the major countries involved in the North Sea, which are the UK & Norway, are now around 50% & 35% down on their Peak production, which goes back to around 2000 and production is continuing to decline.
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/cfapps/ipdbproject/iedindex3.cfm?tid=5&pid=53&aid=1&cid=&syid=1990&eyid=2009&unit=TBPD

The so called huge find (the Catcher prospect", is only equivalent to other small finds of the last 10-20 years and nothing like the earlier finds of the 60's & 70's.

To put it into perspective, this new find is about 2 days Global supply.

Unyet, if you listen to this author & others, these sort of new fields will "save the world".

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jul 24th, 2010 at 11:34pm
Peak Oil 2012 - Economic Collapse, Cities abandoned and Starvation inevitable as Oil runs out

Department of Energy and Oil producers predict a Peaking of Oil Production between 2011 and 2015.

10% decline in Oil production by 2015 is foreseen in DOE report and oil supply deficit in 2015 equal to output of Saudi Arabia.

By 2027, Oil production will only be able to supply 50% of World's needs unless new Oil projects fill the void.

This is highly unlikely as Offshore drilling loses its appeal after the BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico. A World wide Economic collapse due to inadequate cheap energy is the result.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j4Tyy5nsQ8&feature=player_embedded

You may not like or agree with the theme, but you should be aware of the scenario!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jul 25th, 2010 at 3:05pm
Oilwatch Monthly July 2010

Latest Developments:

1) Conventional crude production - Latest figures from the Energy Information Administration (EIA) show that crude oil production including lease condensates decreased by 100,000 b/d from March to April 2010, resulting in total production of crude oil including lease condensates of 73.52 million b/d.

2) Total liquid fuels production - In June 2010 world production of all liquid fuels decreased by 250,000 b/d from May according to the latest fgures of the International Energy Agency (IEA), resulting in total world liquid fuels production of 86.15 million b/d. Liquids production for May 2010 was revised upwards in the IEA Oil Market Report of July from 86.31 to 86.4 million b/d. Average global liquid fuels production in 2009 was 84.94 versus 86.6 and 85.32 million b/d in 2008 and 2007.

3) World oil production capacity - Total oil production capacity in June 2010 decreased by 80,000 b/d from May 2010, from 90.0 to 89.94 million b/d. World production capacity is measured here as the sum of world liquids production excluding biofuels plus total OPEC spare capacity excluding Iraq, Venezuela and Nigeria.

4) OPEC Production - Total liquid fuels production in OPEC countries decreased by 60,000 b/d from May to June 2010 to a level of 33.97 million b/d. Liquids production for May 2010 was revised downwards in the IEA Oil Market Report of July from 34.23 to 34.03 million b/d. Average liquid fuels production in 2009 was 33.7 million b/d, versus 36.09 and 35.02 million b/d in 2008 and 2007 respectively. All time high production of OPEC liquid fuels stands at 36.4 million b/d reached in July 2008.

Total crude oil production excluding lease condensates of the OPEC cartel decreased by 60,000 b/d to a level of 28.89 million b/d, from May to June 2010, according to the latest available estimate of the IEA. Average crude oil production in 2009 was 28.7 million b/d, versus 31.43 and 30.37 million b/d in 2008 and 2007 respectively.

OPEC natural gas liquids remained stable from May to June 2010 at a level of 5.08 million b/d. Average OPEC natural gas liquids production in 2009 was 4.67 million b/d, versus 4.47 and 4.55 million b/d in 2008 and 2007 respectively.

5) Non-OPEC Production - Total liquid fuels production excluding biofuels in Non-OPEC countries decreased by 190,000 b/d from May to June 2010, resulting in a production level of 50.38 million b/d according to the International Energy Agency. Liquids production for May2010 was revised upwards in the IEA Oil Market Report of July from 50.05 to 50.57 million b/d. Average liquid fuels production in 2009 was 49.67 million b/d, versus 49.32 and 49.34 million b/d in 2008 and 2007 respectively.

Total Non-OPEC crude oil production including lease condensates decreased by 73,000 b/d to a level of 42.48 million b/d, from March to April 2010, according to the latest available estimate of the EIA. Crude oil production for March 2010 was revised upwards in the EIA International Petroleum Monthly of July from 42.34 to 42.55 million b/d. Average crude oil production in 2009 was 41.61 million b/d, versus 41.32 and 41.80 million b/d in 2008 and 2007 respectively.

8) Chinese liquids demand - Oil consumption in China decreased by 24,000 b/d from April to May 2010, resulting in a consumption level of 9.12 million b/d according to JODI statistics. Average oil consumption in China in 2009 was 8.05 million b/d, versus 6.92 and 7.29 million b/d in 2008 and 2007 respectively.


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As can be seen, Production effectively Peaked in 2005 and has not subsequently kept pace with Demand, nor Population Growth!

Whilst Consumption has resummed its upward path, after taking a short dip for the GFCin 2008.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jul 26th, 2010 at 12:11am
It's time to end the excessive subsidies for corn ethanol

WHEN WASHINGTON starts handing out cash, it can be hard to stop. See, for example, the decades of subsidies the government has showered on the corn ethanol industry. The fuel was supposed to free America from its dependence on foreign oil and produce fewer carbon emissions in the process. It's doing some of the former and little of the latter. But corn ethanol certainly doesn't need the level of taxpayer support it's been getting. Lawmakers are considering whether to renew these expensive subsidies; they shouldn't.

The feds give companies that combine corn ethanol with gasoline a 45-cent tax subsidy for every gallon of corn ethanol added to gasoline. That's on top of a tariff on imported sugar cane ethanol from Brazil and federal mandates requiring that steadily increasing amounts of these biofuels be produced. The Congressional Budget Office this month estimated that, all told, the costs to taxpayers of replacing a gallon of gasoline with one of corn ethanol add up to $1.78.

How about the environmental benefits? The CBO calculates that it costs a huge $750 to reduce annual carbon dioxide emissions by one ton using corn ethanol. And that figure relies on assumptions extremely favorable to the industry.

Not only are these subsidies expensive, but they are redundant. Since Congress has mandated that the industry furnish a steadily increasing number of gallons of ethanol every year, the stimulative effects of the tax incentives on corn ethanol production will continue to diminish. Numbers from the Food and Agricultural Policy Research Institute at the University of Missouri, on which the CBO relies, show that over the next 10 years, corn ethanol production will still increase -- just not quite as quickly -- if Congress allows the subsidies to lapse this year and leaves the mandate in place.

At this point, the question should not be whether to allow corn ethanol's tax incentives and trade protections to expire. The debate should be about why corn ethanol deserves any federal protection at all. There are certainly more effective ways to reduce oil consumption and greenhouse emissions.
Link  -
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/23/AR2010072304345.html
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The EROEI (Energy Return On Energy Invested) in respect of Ethanol means that it costs more to make it, than we get back when it is used!

If Oil Production was going to make a come back, then Ethanol would not still be in production. In any event, I suggest in the not too distant future, Ethanol may be put on the backburner, so to speak and both the USA & Europe may cease pushing its barrow, because its EROEI makes it un-viable.

Finally, the subsidies paid here and elsewhere in the Energy industry, does not fit well with the industry and its GHG emissions!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jul 28th, 2010 at 1:31pm
Saudi Arabia, Russia and Oil Production

In a recent interview on the Keiser Report:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPOGc5DhUD4&feature=player_embedded#!

I found myself casually mentioning that Russia had now surpassed Saudi Arabia to become the number one oil producer in the world. This is not an event that happened last month, either. The leap forward emerged as far back as 18 months ago, in October of 2008. It seems in Russia, big things often unfold in October.

As subscribers to Gregor.us Monthly know, I like to break up the world of global oil production into four parts. There is OPEC, anchored by Saudi Arabia. And then there’s Non-OPEC, anchored by its top producer, Russia. With the most recent EIA data out for April crude oil production, I made up charts for Saudi Arabia, and Russia, and thought it might be instructive to pose a few questions. First, let’s take a look at Russia



As I have discussed previously, without Russia the world of Non-OPEC supply would have fallen down into a hole shortly after 2003. Indeed, without Russia Non-OPEC production (Non-OPEC ex-Russia) would have fallen every year from 2004 through the present day.

What’s been a surprise is that Russia has been able to sustain its current ~9.5 mbpd for over four years now. A number of analysts are reasonably confident that Russian oil production has now entered a plateau.
Now let’s look at Saudi Arabia



As we look at the chart of Saudi Arabia crude oil production, I like to consider the following propositions:

1. This is a chart of the central bank of oil, with lots of spare capacity, that works to dampen oil price increases.
2. This is a chart of the central bank of oil, with lots of spare capacity, that works to perfect oil price increases.

3. This is a chart of what had once been the central bank of oil, as it transitions to a secondary role.
4. This is a chart of an oil producer doing its best, within technical and geological limits, to maximize its profit.
Regardless of which we choose among these possibilities (or others), it’s clear that Saudi Arabia has been a very different kind of oil producer than Russia, in the past ten years. I would encourage readers to think about, in particular, the period starting in late 2005 through late 2007 when against a backdrop of steadily increasing prices Saudi Arabia production fell by nearly a million barrels per day. Per the interview mentioned above, with the Keiser Report, we might also want to consider the decision to develop fields such as Khurais. | see: Khurais Update: Got Seawater?

Based on the totality of information over the past ten years, I think one can get much closer to reality in Saudi Arabia’s production profile than many presume, given the country’s secrecy. I would also remark that the untested assumption that Saudi Arabia has ~3-to-4 mbpd spare production capacity is one of those slippery and large concepts that can easily lose its shape, in the wrong hands. What do you think?
Link -
http://seekingalpha.com/article/216593-saudi-arabia-russia-and-oil-production?source=email
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It seems that -
1) Russian Production has plateaued & is about to Peak, before going into Decline.
2) Saudi Arabia is still the unknown factor, but I suspect they may also have Peaked.
3)  Non OPEC Production, without Russia has been in decline for some years.
4) The video is worth a look, bear in mind that Gregor McDonald doesn't come on until about the 14 minute mark.

Also, of interest, is the following chart of US Energy Costs, as a percentage of US GDP 1999-2008, which rose substantially and is contributing to the decline of the US & Global Economy!


Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jul 28th, 2010 at 8:15pm
Peak Oil - Solution to Global Warming

Global warming is not going to be a problem. Why do I think that? Because Lord Monckton has debunked anthropomorphic global warming? Because of the Climategate scandal? No. It's much simpler than that.

We'll run out of oil long before we get to any climate crisis.

Many experts believe we are reaching or have reached “peak oil” production on this planet. That's the point at which the glass starts looking half empty rather than half full and last half becomes harder and harder to drink amongst the ice cubes. As we empty the wells, the remaining reserves become harder to extract, are less refined making extraction more expensive. The cost of oil after peak oil can only go up and can never come back down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwNgNyiXPLk&feature=player_embedded#!
Chris Martenson presents a crash course in "Peak Oil"

Ok, so we'll all have to drive Priuses, put solar panels on the roof and recycle a bit harder? No, it's worse than that...a lot worse. Look around you. Just about everything you see created by the hand of modern man is derived from oil or was produced using oil as an energy source or was gotten to you using oil fuelled transport. Everything. The plastic in your laptop, the coffee you're drinking, the rubber tyres on the road you're driving on, all of it comes to you because of oil.

Now imagine the cost of everything going up, and up and up. How do you afford to drive to work to pay for it? How does fruit & veg from the countryside get to my local supermarket without turning into a luxury item? How much will my cup of Columbian coffee be?

Energy now becomes as valuable as blood. Welcome to the road warrior world of Mad Max.

We are facing no less than the complete collapse of civilisation. That's it. Game over. We will return to a pre-oil horse & cart medieval world and whoever still has access to energy will rule the world.

We are like bugs on a petrie dish. We have fed on oil as a serendipitous growth medium, growing our population and consumption off the chart. However, once the oil is exhausted, the colony will die and the world population will revert to more sustainable levels, many estimate that to be about 1 billion people. We have splurged on cheap energy for the last 100 years like a hobo who has found a $50 bill on the pavement and has spent it at the boozer in one night.

When will this all happen? We don't have to wait until the last drop of oil comes out of the last well. We only have to get to the point when it takes more energy to extract the oil than it produces. This point may be decades away, it may be imminent, within months. Commentators vary on the timetable, but they agree that collapse is inevitable. If we don't see it ourselves, our children certainly will.

Is it any surprise that there is now a race on to secure the middle east oil reserves, at any cost, by any means, using any pretence? Is it that hard to imagine that the Bush administration could stage 9/11 as a false flag operation to create a justification for the invasion and occupation of Iraq? Is it any surprise that governments everywhere are investing in an New World Order Orwellian control grid to control the people as things spin out of control? It's going to get ugly.

Australia faces a federal election next month. Who's taking peak oil seriously as an issue? Yes, candidates talk about sustainability for the reasons of climate change, but not because of peak oil. Our pollies don't dare mention it because we the people don't ask the question. It's
the elephant in the lounge room. In fact, Tony Abbott in 2008 didn't even know what peak oil was. (Can't find any comment at all from Julia about peak oil.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCiHFyLIfu8&feature=player_embedded
Tony Abbott "What's Peak Oil?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAyHIOg5aHk&feature=player_embedded
Mike Ruppert is author of "Crossing the Rubicon". This is essential reading to understand how peak oil is fuelling the current geo-political/NWO agenda. Also watch his movie "Collapse" if you can find it. It's themost disturbing movie I've seen after "Endgame" by Alex Jones.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fn4UjHp20OM&feature=player_embedded
Here is advice from Ruppert as to how to prepare for Peak Oil - get out of debt now and think locally. You won't be going anywhere quick.

Link -
http://wakeupaussie.blogspot.com/2010/07/peak-oil-solution-to-global-warming.html
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A couple of abservations -
1) Chris Martenson knows his stuff, on Peak Oil, but if you like what you hear & see in this video, he has 20 more on many issues, which also make a lot of sense!

2) Tony Abbott, obviously has zero idea of what is happening & what is likely to happen!
He is a WORRY!!!

3) Mike Ruppert is a mixture of theatre and a lot of poosible/likely futures that many would rather not hear!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by Bob Hunter LDP on Jul 29th, 2010 at 6:26pm
I don't think there is anything to worry about. Everybody just needs to calm down. When oil does become scarce, it will become more expensive. Scarcity obviously drives up price. So when energy companies realise oil is becoming too expensive, to the point where it might no longer be profitable, they will voluntarily switch to other sources of energy. It doesn't need to be forced. When you force it, that's when you run into trouble. I think we need to decide what will be our next major source of energy by letting the market compete over it. Let oil run and let energy companies invest in other sources of energy until one, like solar or nuclear or geo-thermal, triumphs over the others. That's the only smart way to transform the energy sector.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jul 29th, 2010 at 10:31pm

BobH wrote on Jul 29th, 2010 at 6:26pm:
I don't think there is anything to worry about. Everybody just needs to calm down. When oil does become scarce, it will become more expensive. Scarcity obviously drives up price. So when energy companies realise oil is becoming too expensive, to the point where it might no longer be profitable, they will voluntarily switch to other sources of energy. It doesn't need to be forced. When you force it, that's when you run into trouble. I think we need to decide what will be our next major source of energy by letting the market compete over it. Let oil run and let energy companies invest in other sources of energy until one, like solar or nuclear or geo-thermal, triumphs over the others. That's the only smart way to transform the energy sector.


Bob, no offense, but it would seem your knowledge of Peak Energy, is a little less than that displayed by Tony Abbott, in the video previously placed on here & he is a worry.

You don't realise that -
1) The transition off Oil, to other Energy sources, would take about 30-40 years, if well managed and if there were other suitable Energy sources to transition to, which there are not.
And perhaps, 10 years, with absolute Manhattan Style project urgency!
2) It does need to be forced, the "free market" will not shift itself, it will need to be dragged, kicking & screaming, over the dying bodies of all of the self interest groups, including the Oil & Coal industries, for starters!
3) This is not a horse race, with 4 to 5 good favourites, all competing for a glittering prize. There are no choices here, we will struggle to get enough of the various Energy types & other essential Resources, for humanity to see out another century!
4) There is a lot more involved than a simple switch over of base load electricity, to Solar, Wind or Geo-thermal.

I gather you are a candidate or helper for the LDP, if so, do yourself & them a favour, do some research!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by Bob Hunter LDP on Jul 29th, 2010 at 11:18pm

perceptions_now wrote on Jul 29th, 2010 at 10:31pm:

BobH wrote on Jul 29th, 2010 at 6:26pm:
I don't think there is anything to worry about. Everybody just needs to calm down. When oil does become scarce, it will become more expensive. Scarcity obviously drives up price. So when energy companies realise oil is becoming too expensive, to the point where it might no longer be profitable, they will voluntarily switch to other sources of energy. It doesn't need to be forced. When you force it, that's when you run into trouble. I think we need to decide what will be our next major source of energy by letting the market compete over it. Let oil run and let energy companies invest in other sources of energy until one, like solar or nuclear or geo-thermal, triumphs over the others. That's the only smart way to transform the energy sector.


Bob, no offense, but it would seem your knowledge of Peak Energy, is a little less than that displayed by Tony Abbott, in the video previously placed on here & he is a worry.

You don't realise that -
1) The transition off Oil, to other Energy sources, would take about 30-40 years, if well managed and if there were other suitable Energy sources to transition to, which there are not.
And perhaps, 10 years, with absolute Manhattan Style project urgency!
2) It does need to be forced, the "free market" will not shift itself, it will need to be dragged, kicking & screaming, over the dying bodies of all of the self interest groups, including the Oil & Coal industries, for starters!
3) This is not a horse race, with 4 to 5 good favourites, all competing for a glittering prize. There are no choices here, we will struggle to get enough of the various Energy types & other essential Resources, for humanity to see out another century!
4) There is a lot more involved than a simple switch over of base load electricity, to Solar, Wind or Geo-thermal.

I gather you are a candidate or helper for the LDP, if so, do yourself & them a favour, do some research!


Why is the market incapable of moving off oil? We used to use whale oil to light our homes but then the market figured out that wouldn't last, so they put a lot of money into finding a new energy source and figured out you could refine crude oil into kerosene. But it was very expensive. So some smart businessmen who wanted to make money, spent money on trying to figure out cheaper ways of refining kerosene so you could sell it to the common man. In the process they figured out you could make more from crude oil than kerosene. They developed vaseline, asphalt and eventually gasoline. Before they new what to do with it, crude oil was waste. But out of economic self-interest, it was transformed into a resource.

See, you don't need central energy management. All you need to do is deregulate the market, and the free market will more in the right direction. Smart businessmen have always found ways to make money. What makes you think they can't do it again? When oil is no longer profitable, what makes you think rich oil companies will be stupid enough not to invest money into finding alternatives? How's they get rich in the first place? How'd they find oil in the first place? Think about it.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by Equitist on Jul 29th, 2010 at 11:33pm


BobH wrote on Jul 29th, 2010 at 6:26pm:
I don't think there is anything to worry about. Everybody just needs to calm down. When oil does become scarce, it will become more expensive. Scarcity obviously drives up price. So when energy companies realise oil is becoming too expensive, to the point where it might no longer be profitable, they will voluntarily switch to other sources of energy. It doesn't need to be forced. When you force it, that's when you run into trouble. I think we need to decide what will be our next major source of energy by letting the market compete over it. Let oil run and let energy companies invest in other sources of energy until one, like solar or nuclear or geo-thermal, triumphs over the others. That's the only smart way to transform the energy sector.


Thing is, energy is but one use for oil - and it's probably not the most useful one for humanity either!

Right now, we seem to have a reckless race to extract and burn as much as possible in the shortest possible time...

Burnt oil cannot be recycled...

Environmental degradation issues notwithstanding, once oil has been combusted, humanity has lost its utility forever...


Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jul 30th, 2010 at 12:20am

BobH wrote on Jul 29th, 2010 at 11:18pm:

perceptions_now wrote on Jul 29th, 2010 at 10:31pm:

BobH wrote on Jul 29th, 2010 at 6:26pm:
I don't think there is anything to worry about. Everybody just needs to calm down. When oil does become scarce, it will become more expensive. Scarcity obviously drives up price. So when energy companies realise oil is becoming too expensive, to the point where it might no longer be profitable, they will voluntarily switch to other sources of energy. It doesn't need to be forced. When you force it, that's when you run into trouble. I think we need to decide what will be our next major source of energy by letting the market compete over it. Let oil run and let energy companies invest in other sources of energy until one, like solar or nuclear or geo-thermal, triumphs over the others. That's the only smart way to transform the energy sector.


Bob, no offense, but it would seem your knowledge of Peak Energy, is a little less than that displayed by Tony Abbott, in the video previously placed on here & he is a worry.

You don't realise that -
1) The transition off Oil, to other Energy sources, would take about 30-40 years, if well managed and if there were other suitable Energy sources to transition to, which there are not.
And perhaps, 10 years, with absolute Manhattan Style project urgency!
2) It does need to be forced, the "free market" will not shift itself, it will need to be dragged, kicking & screaming, over the dying bodies of all of the self interest groups, including the Oil & Coal industries, for starters!
3) This is not a horse race, with 4 to 5 good favourites, all competing for a glittering prize. There are no choices here, we will struggle to get enough of the various Energy types & other essential Resources, for humanity to see out another century!
4) There is a lot more involved than a simple switch over of base load electricity, to Solar, Wind or Geo-thermal.

I gather you are a candidate or helper for the LDP, if so, do yourself & them a favour, do some research!


Why is the market incapable of moving off oil? We used to use whale oil to light our homes but then the market figured out that wouldn't last, so they put a lot of money into finding a new energy source and figured out you could refine crude oil into kerosene. But it was very expensive. So some smart businessmen who wanted to make money, spent money on trying to figure out cheaper ways of refining kerosene so you could sell it to the common man. In the process they figured out you could make more from crude oil than kerosene. They developed vaseline, asphalt and eventually gasoline. Before they new what to do with it, crude oil was waste. But out of economic self-interest, it was transformed into a resource.

See, you don't need central energy management. All you need to do is deregulate the market, and the free market will more in the right direction. Smart businessmen have always found ways to make money. What makes you think they can't do it again? When oil is no longer profitable, what makes you think rich oil companies will be stupid enough not to invest money into finding alternatives? How's they get rich in the first place? How'd they find oil in the first place? Think about it.



Time for bed Bob, I'll get back to you.

That said, I think you need to do some work, you have a few ideals, but they are outdated, I'm afraid.

Think about this, we simplying don't have the Energy sources for 7-9 Billion people, NO MATTER HOW SMART YOU MAY THINK BUSINESS IS OR HOW GOOD THE FREE ENTERPRISE SYSTEM OR HOW GOOD THE CURRENT POLITICAL SYSTEM, IT SIMPLY WON'T WORK IN THIS NEW PARADIGM!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by Bob Hunter LDP on Jul 30th, 2010 at 12:27am

perceptions_now wrote on Jul 30th, 2010 at 12:20am:
Think about this, we simplying don't have the Energy sources for 7-9 Billion people

Think about this, crude oil was waste before we refined it into kerosene and gasoline. Nothing is a resource until you know how to use it.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jul 30th, 2010 at 12:12pm

BobH wrote on Jul 30th, 2010 at 12:27am:

perceptions_now wrote on Jul 30th, 2010 at 12:20am:
Think about this, we simplying don't have the Energy sources for 7-9 Billion people

Think about this, crude oil was waste before we refined it into kerosene and gasoline. Nothing is a resource until you know how to use it.


So Bob, thinking cap on, what are the next Energy sources, for 7-9 Billion people, once Oil & Coal run out, within 40-60 years?

Not that we have to wait that long to see some of the consequences, because when it becomes apparent that we are on the after-slope of Peak Energy, various consequences will start to flow.

And, even if there is some well hidden new sources, how do we take a transition that should take 30-40 years and convert that into say 5 years, as we are already past the Peak and the next 2-5 years will see the  consequences start to kick in.

Even with the urgency of a Manhattan style project, it would still take at least 10 years to transition from the current Energy sources, to the new ones, if there were any!

Btw, don't look to Wood, Whale Oil, Kerosene, Oil, Coal, Gas or  Nuclear, as they are already been spoken for.

Solar, Wind & Thermal can have some input, but will not fill the breach left by the above Energy sources and there are many products derived from fossil fuels, which will NOT transition accross to these Energy sources.

Finally, there are some things that the "Private Sector" is good at and some where it is not.

This Paradigm change will not come naturally to the private sector, but they may be able to help, if they are given all of the information and they are enlisted to help be part of the solution, not part of the problem.

And finally, countries such as china, India & many others will have to temper their desires , whislt OZ, the USA & Europe will also have to reduce expectations, if the final outcomes are to see the survival of the human species.  

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by BigOl64 on Jul 30th, 2010 at 1:30pm

perceptions_now wrote on Jul 30th, 2010 at 12:12pm:

BobH wrote on Jul 30th, 2010 at 12:27am:

perceptions_now wrote on Jul 30th, 2010 at 12:20am:
Think about this, we simplying don't have the Energy sources for 7-9 Billion people

Think about this, crude oil was waste before we refined it into kerosene and gasoline. Nothing is a resource until you know how to use it.


So Bob, thinking cap on, what are the next Energy sources, for 7-9 Billion people, once Oil & Coal run out, within 40-60 years?
 



Oil might be on it's 'last legs' but coal has a few hundred years of known and implied resource.

The only reason we would stop burning coal is because we wanted to, not because there was none left.


Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jul 30th, 2010 at 1:50pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 30th, 2010 at 1:30pm:

perceptions_now wrote on Jul 30th, 2010 at 12:12pm:

BobH wrote on Jul 30th, 2010 at 12:27am:

perceptions_now wrote on Jul 30th, 2010 at 12:20am:
Think about this, we simplying don't have the Energy sources for 7-9 Billion people

Think about this, crude oil was waste before we refined it into kerosene and gasoline. Nothing is a resource until you know how to use it.


So Bob, thinking cap on, what are the next Energy sources, for 7-9 Billion people, once Oil & Coal run out, within 40-60 years?
 



Oil might be on it's 'last legs' but coal has a few hundred years of known and implied resource.

The only reason we would stop burning coal is because we wanted to, not because there was none left.


BigOl64,
You may be interested in the following post from July 13th.

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Muso/freediver,
You may be interested in the following comments, from the World Coal Institute -

"It has been estimated that there are over 847 billion tonnes of proven coal reserves worldwide. This means that there is enough coal to last us around 119 years at current rates of production. In contrast, proven oil and gas reserves are equivalent to around 46 and 63 years at current production levels."
http://www.worldcoal.org/coal/where-is-coal-found/
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So, what we have above is the Coal industry saying there are 119 years of Coal left, Globally.

However, as I previously mentioned, there is usually a rider to these statements, saying "at Current levels" or as they have done here " at current rates of production".

So, let's add an "acceptable" rate of growth of say 5%, which means the current usage/production doubles in 14 years, then doubles again at the end of another 14 years.

That means that the Coal Industries own figure of 119 years, suddenly becomes 40 years or less, if only 5% growth becomes reality and China is currently going along at 10% growth, with the rest of the world in a slight decline, due to the GFC.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by BigOl64 on Jul 30th, 2010 at 2:08pm

perception

Depends on what type of coal you are talking about, thermal or coking, I have bugger all knowledge of thermal, QLD is mostly coking coal.


Proven reserves are what we absolutely know about, then you have implied reserves, the stuff we're fairly sure about. It costs a lot of money to prove a resource, so it never gets done until it needs to.

The bowen and surat basins are friggen huge and far from fully explored and even further again from being 'proven'.

Coal has a lot of years in QLD, before we get too worried.


Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jul 30th, 2010 at 2:51pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jul 30th, 2010 at 2:08pm:
perception

Depends on what type of coal you are talking about, thermal or coking, I have bugger all knowledge of thermal, QLD is mostly coking coal.


Proven reserves are what we absolutely know about, then you have implied reserves, the stuff we're fairly sure about. It costs a lot of money to prove a resource, so it never gets done until it needs to.

The bowen and surat basins are friggen huge and far from fully explored and even further again from being 'proven'.

Coal has a lot of years in QLD, before we get too worried.


The previous post I referred to, which is from the World Coal Institute, refers to -

"It has been estimated that there are over 847 billion tonnes of proven coal reserves worldwide. This means that there is enough coal to last us around 119 years at current rates of production. In contrast, proven oil and gas reserves are equivalent to around 46 and 63 years at current production levels."

http://www.worldcoal.org/coal/where-is-coal-found/

These are Global figures, not local, so by my figuring the planet has about 40-60 years left of real time Coal consumption and Gas & Oil have somewhat less.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Aug 2nd, 2010 at 10:40pm
Peak Oil, Zero Growth and Asset Prices: Playing with Numbers

Question: What happens to asset prices if / when Peak Oil permanently slows economic growth?
Peak Oil Theory suggests that global oil production reaches a plateau as reserves deplete and remaining oil becomes more difficult and expensive to extract. As this occurs, oil shortages are expected to increase oil prices. Many argue we witnessed this phenomenon in 2008 as oil prices hit $147/bbl sending the economy into a tailspin.

But you thought subprime mortgages were responsible for the financial crisis? Subprime and over-leverage in general was the financial transmission mechanism that derailed the global economy. However, rising gas prices helped push indebted consumers and businesses beyond their threshold for debt capacity and consumption. For example, as gas prices rose, personal economic tradeoffs between travel, discretionary spending and housing became necessary. Those who drove to work were forced to spend more on gas, so they crimped in other areas.

Research suggests that residential areas where residents had the longest commutes were the first areas to witness declines in property values. This is probably one of the best demonstrations of the link between higher energy costs and asset prices. Proponents of Peak Oil Theory expect oil prices to continue to drag on the economy into the indefinite future – the magnitude of drag depends on the sensitivity of the economy to exogenous shocks and the size of the exogenous shock. Consequently, opinions on the economic impact and timing of peak oil vary. Some predict a gradual  economic deceleration, while others predict a hard crash and GDP declines of over 20%.

Given various peak oil scenarios, what is the potential impact to asset prices?
To conduct a sensitivity analysis, I looked at the terminal value of a $100 cash flow in a valuation model.

[The terminal value of an asset is essentially its value when cash flow growth hits a steady state. For example, a company may experience high growth in its early stages, but as the company matures cash flow growth tends to align with the rate of general economic growth. On average, and over the long run, it is reasonable to expect all financial assets combined to grow at the same rate as nominal GDP.]

The point of this exercise is not to value an asset but to highlight the range of terminal values given multiple scenarios. To do this, I calculated the terminal value using continuous terminal growth rates ranging from 3.8% to -10%. Also, the discount rate is adjusted based on the severity of the terminal growth rate. Under declining growth scenarios, investors will incorporate greater risk expectations into financial asset valuations.

Note: The average historical long-term nominal earnings growth rate is 3.8% (as observed by Robert Shiller between 1874 and 2004). I consider this growth rate and an 11.5% discount rate a prudent base case.

The chart below shows the range of terminal values based on different growth and discount rate expectations. Simply going from the long run average growth rate (3.8%) to a zero-growth scenario implies a 49% haircut to asset values. If the Peak Oil Theories are correct, a 0% growth rate is quite optimistic – it essentially assumes we are able to maintain the status quo indefinitely.

Realistically, unless a substitute energy is discovered, growth is likely to turn negative. Under a negative growth scenario, the terminal value is cut by up to 81%.



The point of this exercise is not to point to a specific final value for any particular asset if economic growth permanently stagnates or declines. The mission of this article is to inform readers that asset prices are highly dependent on the assumption of continuous growth. If Peak Oil Theory – or any other theory that threatens mankind’s ability to grow continuously – becomes widely accepted as reality, expect asset prices to plummet.
Link -
http://www.planbeconomics.com/2010/08/01/4630/
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And that purely relates to Peak Oil, now throw in an Aging Population, which is set to start declining in 20-30 years time, a current Debt problem where many countries are quite possibly already insolvent and then factor in a looming Climate Catastrophe in 50-100 years time.

Yep, all is fine, when's Christmas, I NEED TO CONSUME SOME MORE GOODS?

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Aug 3rd, 2010 at 10:10pm
Study Warns 'Peak Coal' Could Be Just Years Away

With electricity poised to potentially replace gasoline as the fuel that powers tomorrow's automobiles, the question of where that power comes from is an important one. If the majority of the world's electricity continues to come from coal, replacing internal combustion engines with lithium ion batteries will, in essence, just mean replacing one carbon-spewing combustible with another—though most research on the subject shows that EVs are still significantly cleaner.

But a new study calls into question whether coal will still be cheapest available source of energy by the time electric vehicles start making a major dent in the auto market. Could a looming shortage force our hand in replacing coal with nuclear energy and renewables?

Twin Peaks
In recent years, peak oil theory has received a lot of attention—and not just from the commodities gurus and conspiracy theorists who have been shouting warnings from the rooftops for decades. With global energy demand rising and countries like China and India on the cusp providing the world with billions of new consumers seeking something similar to the energy-thirsty "American way of life," even the mainstream media has been known to throw the term out there from time to time. In fact, it's possible that the consensus on peak oil has shifted in the last decade from a question of "if," to one of "when."

What hasn't gotten as much attention in recent years though is the global supply of another fossil fuel that mankind relies upon to power its prosperity: Coal. About half of the electricity used in the United States comes from the burning of coal, and in other countries that number is often much higher. China relies on the fuel for more than 70 percent of its energy. But with international demand for coal expected to rise by nearly 50 percent by 2030, exactly how much of this finite resource is left to mine, and how long will it be until global production peaks?

According to a study by Tadeusz Patzek of the University of Texas and Gregory Croft of Berkeley, that day is a lot closer than anyone would imagine. Patzek and Croft are warning that after 2011, global production rates for coal will begin to decline—sinking to 1990 levels by 2037 and dropping to half of peak production by 2037. The paper also projects a corresponding decrease in emissions from coal, by an average of 2 percent per year.


Peak coal isn't a new concept by any stretch, in fact it dates back to M. King Hubbert, the founder of peak oil theory. Using the same model he correctly used to forecast the decline of American oil production back in 1956, Hubbert predicted that global coal production would reach its apex in 2150. Since then, other researchers have placed the event closer and closer to the present day, with a 2007 study by the Energy Watch Group claiming that China will only be able to sustain its production trajectory until 2015.

Natural Cap and Trade?
So does this mean that the push to limit our emissions from coal is less dire than we might have thought? Patzek and Croft seem to think so, saying that the "current focus on carbon capture and geological sequestration may be misplaced. Instead, the global community should be devoting its attention to conservation and increasing efficiency of electrical power generation from coal."

Still, most global warming experts warn that decreasing the amount of carbon that enters the atmosphere is an essential task that must be undertaken immediately if governments want to mitigate the effects of climate change. Waiting for global coal production to decline on its own might be the path of least resistance—and more satisfying to believers in the divine wisdom of the free market. But why focus on increasing the efficiency of coal when renewable energies are the only long-term solution to a looming problem that threatens to significantly alter the environment, destabilize world economies, or both?Link -
http://www.hybridcars.com/news/study-warns-peak-coal-could-be-just-years-away-28330.html
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Peak Coal 2011???

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Aug 9th, 2010 at 7:56pm
Peak Oil? Yes! Peak Food? I Don’t Think So!

Earlier today, Michael C. Ruppert, former editor and publisher of the newsletter and web site From The Wilderness and currently publisher of the web site collapse.net, put a video clip called “Global and US Food Price Alert” online. I found it on Facebook and it is also on You Tube. Doubtless, it is other places as well, but these are the two places where I accessed it.

This clip, made on August 4th, is a 1:13 teaser to a longer video made available to paid Collapse.net members. You can pay ten dollars per month to be a member to see the whole thing. I am not currently a member so I have not seen the entire video. However I had a strong reaction to the part I did see, in which Ruppert stated that he saw, in a 24-36 hour news cycle, “almost an epidemic of stories from some of the biggest financial publications and news entities in the world” proclaiming that global food prices were about to “soar.” Ruppert said that after reading the stories, he came to the conclusion that “it’s quite possible we have arrived suddenly at Peak Food.”

I issued the following response on Facebook, both on my personal page and on “The End of Money” page that I founded earlier this year to promote discussion of ending monetary systems and working “for a living” as we know them today. I believe that doing those two things is the key to post-industrial prosperity:

“How do you know that the stories were not planted in the corporate media so that people would be scared into accepting the Monsanto "solution" for food crises? So often, corporations/governments create the problem e.g. 9-11, so they can propose their solution e.g. global war on terror and clamp down of dissent. And you know that so much of the media is under corporate control that the fact that so many stories came out at the same time should be a big RED flag.

I believe Peak Oil because oil is a finite resource whose decline has been measured over time. Food is not the same beast that oil is. Production levels are variable; a potato field can yield more a season after a bad harvest, whereas once an oil field is in decline, it won't produce at higher levels later on. We have ready alternatives for food production: We can go back to the organic production methods we had before WWII. No need to invent anything new.

Yes, there are places in the world that are having bad harvests and food shortages. But the overall problem globally is not production but distribution. e.g. The US takes the official position that there is no human right to food, only an opportunity to buy food.

Here is another example of why we must abolish money-based economics and the sooner the better for humanity and the rest of the planet. Why must we pay to live on the planet we're born on? Why must we be profitable to someone else, or something else, a corporation, before we can eat?

Talk to me about Peak Food when the US and UK stop wasting so much food.”

I have not read the articles that Ruppert has read, so I do not know why they predict world food prices imminently soaring. I am aware that Russia has had a bad harvest and has recently halted grain exports. This and other factors around the world may indeed lead to soaring food prices...for a while. But Peak Food? For the reasons I stated above, the very concept does not make sense.

Unfortunately, the concept of “peak” may have, for lack of a better term, “jumped the shark.” It fits in the context of oil and other finite resources such as uranium. But it makes no sense when one is talking about renewable resources such as crops. And it makes no sense when the problem is less with the supply of natural resources than with the political will to use them wisely and distribute their fruits, literally and figuratively, in an equitable manner.

So if food prices do soar, I will ask if agribusiness is behind it, as it is hell bent on things such as GMOs, chemical additives, seed patents, privatization of water resources, and any other thing it can attempt in order to monopolize the stuff of life for the purpose of profit. After all, big corporations and their government lackeys have done much already to ruin the peace, health and prosperity of billions around the world. Soaring food process would be consistent with past practice.
Link -
http://atlanticfreepress.com/news/1-/13648-peak-oil-yes-peak-food-i-dont-think-so.html
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There are a couple of things to remember, when talking about Peak Energy & Peak Food -
1) Oil is heavily involved in agriculature in many areas, including the Fertiliser/Chemicals used, transport of the produce around the world and many other issues related to food.
2) The requirement for Growth in Food is linked to the Growth of Populations, which are already slowing and will  start to actually decline in around 2030-2040.
3) Climate Change is already impacting Food production, as indicated by such issues as the current Russian example & the Murray-Darling basin.

Exactly when Food will Peak may not yet be certain, but clearly it has already started to outstrip inflation, next comes shortages!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Aug 11th, 2010 at 7:37pm
Peak oil is the villain governments need

Using the threat of a high oil prices is a sell the public will buy into – unlike intangible arguments over climate change.

Could peak oil lever politicians out from between the rock of the electorate and the hard place that is climate change mitigation? As Daniel Gros wrote in the Guardian: "the climate-change bill, for which President Barack Obama had pushed so hard, will not even be presented to the US Senate, because it stands no chance of passage". His analysis ends with a fatalistic statement: "Determined action at the global level will become possible only when climate change is no longer some scientific prediction, but a reality that people feel … A world incapable of preventing climate change will have to live with it."


Isn't that the trouble? Climate change is a stealthy foe, hard to feel, see or identify. Unlike peak oil. So here's another question: did western administrations know that the International Energy Agency (IEA) had been consistently concealing the imminence of peak oil? One might hope our leaders would know about something as serious as this. But if they did, why is it that renewable energy replacements haven't been far higher on the agenda, for much longer and addressed with rather more conviction? This is the question George Monbiot put in a freedom of information request sent to the Department for Business in February 2008, asking for details of the government's peak oil contingency planning.


"The answer I received astonished me," he wrote in the Guardian. Hardly surprising, considering the answer: "The government does not feel the need to hold contingency plans specifically for the eventuality of crude oil supplies peaking between now and 2020." Eighteen months later, the Guardian published the IEA whistleblower story and the 2020 cover was blown. Were the government really taken in by the duplicity of the IEA? Or were they in on the act, making it difficult to appear sanguine about an imminent and permanent disruption to energy supplies?


Outside of the fossil fuel industry, it is hard to know to what extent commerce is aware of the impending crisis or the speed at which it would envelop us. Either way, industries appear to have woken up with a start, at least if the white paper, Sustainable energy security: strategic risks and opportunities for business, is a guide. Produced by Lloyd's of London and Chatham House, their assessment is sobering. They identify opportunities for the quick witted, as well as risks to the somnambulant. One statement by professor Paul Stevens in particular caught my eye: "A supply crunch appears likely around 2013 … given recent price experience, a spike in excess of $200 per barrel is not infeasible".


What effect would a barrel price of $200 have on industrial economies, should that spike be sustained for any length of time? We would witness endemic global market disruption, reductions in agricultural yield, increased transport costs for both finished goods and raw materials (true pessimists would add an oil war or two for good measure). The shockwaves would be felt everywhere, although as ever, the poor will take the brunt of it.


And yet when the price of oil shoots up, we use less – meaning we output less CO2. So let me rephrase my question: what effect would a barrel price of $200 have on the CO2 output of nations? It would certainly force a substantial reduction. It would be violent change, but that is the price of hubris. The longer we wait, the greater the cost when we finally act, when everything is rushed because the public furore can no longer be ignored. Remember the fuel protests? The UK ground to a halt in a matter of days at the behest of a few thousand protestors. Scale that up by an order of magnitude and you can see what a $200-an-oil-barrel world might look like, at least until we got used to it.


Since it will happen far sooner than any of the more serious impacts of climate change, we should abandon attempts to stop fossil fuel use because of climate change and concentrate on reducing fuel use, controlling energy prices and keeping national economies reasonably stable. That's a sell the public will buy into: the price of petrol or heating oil, the security of their jobs, the scarcity of resources – these are things the public can feel and see, and that contrarians cannot obfuscate out of ideological opposition.


Peak oil is inevitable. Something has to give, and it's consumerism. Governments know this perfectly well. What they really need is some externality, something abstract they can blame – deflecting the public wrath from the ballot box. Western governments need a villain. Oil at $200 a barrel fits the bill perfectly.
Link -
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cif-green/2010/aug/11/peak-oil-villain-governments-need
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Some Politicians, Economists & government officials are aware & have been for some time, whilst the majority have no idea!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Aug 12th, 2010 at 11:55am
New Perspectives on the Energy Return on (Energy) Investment (EROI) of Corn Ethanol

Conclusions
The debate over the EROI of corn ethanol has been concerned mostly with whether it is a net energy yielder. As such, the dialogue has veered away from many of the larger implications of EROI analyses. Our results indicate that the EROI of corn ethanol is statistically inseparable from one energy unit returned per energy unit invested, and it is likely that much of our ethanol production is acting as an energy sink, requiring more energy for production than that contained in the ethanol product. This conclusion was confirmed in our spatial analysis, where the average EROIRG was 0.06 lower than the average calculated from the literature.

Increasing yields is oft-touted as a way to increase the EROI of corn ethanol, but our analysis indicates that the gains in EROI are small even when the average yield from 2005 was tripled. Co-product credits, on the other hand, have a large influence on the EROI from corn ethanol. There is no consensus within the literature regarding an appropriate co-product value, and until one emerges (one way or another), we should err on the side of caution when applying credits to co-products. Finally, the analysis of ethanol production from biorefineries supports our conclusion from the spatial analysis: the EROI is too low in too many locations to make an impact on our gasoline consumption. Our best estimate is that the net energy provided from ethanol accounts for only 0.8% of the net energy provided by gasoline.

The evidence provided in this research is clear: we do not know the exact EROI of ethanol, but even if we are remotely close (± 0.2), we are still, in the best case scenario, gaining an insignificant amount of net energy. Furthermore, Hall et al. (2009) estimated that only fuels with an EROI greater than 3:1 provide the requisite net energy to provide a fuel source and to maintain the infrastructure associated with the current U.S. transportation system. Fuels that have an EROI below 3:1 require subsidies from other energy sources to pay for all of the infrastructure associated with the transportation system of the US. The EROI of corn ethanol that we calculated is lower than the 3:1 threshold, indicating that corn ethanol requires large subsidies from the general fossil fuel economy, and as a result, drains energy from the US transportation system.
Link -
http://netenergy.theoildrum.com/node/6761
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I prefer EROEI - Energy Return On Energy Invested!

That said, whichever way you look at Ethanol, it is a waste of time, effort & resources.

The Energy return on Energy Invested is far too low and it also takes up far too much productive agricultural land away from the production of FOOD for human consumption.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by muso on Aug 12th, 2010 at 11:58am
That's corn ethanol - and yes, we know that already. Ethanol derived from sugar cane is an entirely different prospect.

As far as I know, there is no debate on corn ethanol. It's a bad idea.

(so is ethanol derived from natural gas, but that's even worse)

If you want a viable alternative to corn ethanol, look at cellulosic ethanol.

Here in Australia, we primarily use sugar cane anyway, but if we can use the entire cane crop including the cellulosic  portion, we'd be on a winner.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Aug 12th, 2010 at 12:05pm

muso wrote on Aug 12th, 2010 at 11:58am:
That's corn ethanol - and yes, we know that already. Ethanol derived from sugar cane is an entirely different prospect.

As far as I know, there is no debate on corn ethanol. It's a bad idea.

(so is ethanol derived from natural gas, but that's even worse)


Agreed, although even the sugar based Ethanol return is not all that great, compared to what we have had.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Aug 12th, 2010 at 12:17pm
Book Review - Energy Transitions: History, Requirements, Prospects

The discussion about our energy supply is full of extremely optimistic expectations. There are many people who believe that full replacement of fossil with renewable energy sources in an extremely short time span is possible. Such ideas have been publicly voiced in Al Gore’s call for 100% renewable energy in the United States within 10 years, and Jacobson & Delucchi’s plan to power 100 percent of the planet with renewable by 2030 published in Scientific American.
Their optimism stems from ignoring the inherent gradual nature of energy transitions and the quality differences between energy sources.

Both issues are described in Vaclav Smil’s new book, Energy Transitions: History, Requirements, Prospects. Vaclav Smil, a Professor at the University of Manitoba, has been writing about energy for more than two decades. This book is written in his usual clear descriptive style. He has an eye for detail as he quantifies many historical amounts, providing a much needed reality check for any energy transition scenario under consideration. He concludes that energy transitions are a generations-long process. To increase the likelihood of success of the coming energy transition, it would be wise for affluent nations to introduce policy targets to reduce absolute energy usage per capita.

“The scale of the coming energy transition is best illustrated by comparing the future demand for non-fossil fuels and primary electricity with the past demand for fossil energies that were needed to complete the epochal shift from biomass to coal and hydrocarbons.

By the late 1890s, when the share of biomass energies slipped just below 50% of the world’s total primary energy supply, less than 20 ExaJoules (EJ) of additional fossil fuel supply were needed to substitute all of the remaining biomass energy consumption.

By 2010 the global use of fossil energies runs at the annual rate of roughly 400 EJ, which means that the need for new non-fossil energy supply to displace coal and hydrocarbons is 20 times greater in overall energy terms than was the need for fossil energies during the 1890s.”

"Globally, coal began to supply more than 5% of all fuel energies around 1840, more than 10% in the early 1850s, more than a quarter of the total by the late 1870s, and one half by the beginning of the twentieth century…”

Vaclav Smil concludes his book with advice that a shift away from fossil fuels is a generations-long process.

“The inertia of existing massive and expensive energy infrastructures and prime movers and the time and capital investment needed for putting in place new convertors and new networks make it inevitable that the primary energy supply of most modern nations will contain a significant component of fossil fuels for decades to come.”

Therefore, from Smil’s perspective, hoping for rapid technological development and increasingly better conversion efficiencies is insufficient. He believes that a precondition for a successful transition from fossil fuels is that all affluent nations take steps to reduce fossil fuel consumption, through conservation and increased energy efficiently. In this way, the amount of replacement fuel can be reduced.

“Difficult as it would be, reducing the energy use would be much more rewarding than deploying dubious energy conversions operating with marginal energy returns (fermentation of liquids from energy crops being an excellent example), sequestering the emissions of CO2 (now seen as the best future choice by some industries), and making exaggerated claims for non-fossil electricity production (both in terms of their near-term contributions and eventual market shares). Or hoping for an early success of highly unconventional renewable conversions (jet stream winds, ocean thermal differences, deep geothermal). After all, a dedicated but entirely realistic pursuit of this goal could result in reductions on the order of 10% of the total primary energy consumption in a single generation, an achievement whose multiple benefits could not be matched by the opposite effort to increase the overall energy use.

Affluent countries should thus replace their traditional pursuit of higher energy output and increased conversion efficiency with a new approach that would combine aggressively improved efficiency of energy conversion with decreasing rates of per capita energy use. This combination would be the best enabler of the unfolding energy transition. Until we get such history-changing conversions as reliable, inexpensive PV cells generating electricity with 50% efficiency or genetically engineered bacteria exuding billions of liters of kerosene, it is the best way to ensure that new renewables will come as close to displacing fossil fuels as is economically advantageous and environmentally acceptable”
Link -
http://europe.theoildrum.com/node/6828
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The transition will take place, for various reasons, but will it be voluntary and will it be planned?

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Aug 12th, 2010 at 9:03pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efEckI8IXjg&feature=player_embedded#!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Aug 14th, 2010 at 7:28pm
PEAK OIL? I cant believe its oil!

Product DescriptionI can’t believe it’s oil!
uses include: deodorants, petroleum jelly, moisturizers, rubbing alcohol, soaps, heart valves, antiseptics, hearing aids, nasal decongestants, antihistamines, moisturizers, Bactine, vaporizers, latex gloves, bandages, allergy medications, aspirin, burn lotions, insect repellents, anesthetics, artificial limbs, cough syrup, cologne, dentures, stethoscopes, syringes, glycerin, cortisone, cosmetics, dentures, vitamins
Link -
http://heinzduthel.com/2010/08/14/peak-oil-i-cant-believe-its-oil/
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And, that's only a very small amount of Products that incorporate the use of Oil.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Aug 16th, 2010 at 11:58am
Oil prices fall amid recovery concerns

World oil prices fell for the fourth consecutive day on Friday, holding under $US76 amid stubborn concerns over the global economic recovery despite upbeat growth data in Europe.

New York's main contract, light sweet crude for September, fell 35 US cents to $US75.39, wrapping up a drop of more than $US6 in four days.

On Friday, the Organization of Oil Exporting Countries (OPEC) revised upwards its world oil demand growth estimate for 2010 to 1.2 per cent.

"Given stabilised oil demand in the US, the world oil demand growth forecast is revised up by 0.1 million barrels per day (bpd) to show growth of 1.05 million bpd or 1.2 per cent," the cartel said in its monthly report.

Total demand for 2010 was now expected to reach 85.5 million bpd, up from 84.46 million bpd in 2009.

OPEC warned, however, that a slower economy in the second half of the year, caused by a phasing out of fiscal stimulus, would likely affect demand.
Link -
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-business/oil-prices-fall-amid-recovery-concerns-20100816-125jh.html
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The above article is suggesting that Oil Demand may rise slightly in 2010, but a slowing world economy may mean that Demand may lessen, if the Economy falls away, as stimulus programs phase out?

So, as a result of all that uncertainty the price of Oil has recently fallen!

Q. Could there be another, more direct reason?

A. The vast majority of Oil contracts, are actually priced in US$'s, so as the US$ rises & falls, so to does the price of Oil.

For example -
On July 17th the US$ index was 82.56 & Oil was $76.01.
On August 6th the US$ index had fallen to 80.32 & Oil had risen to $80.70.
Today the US$ index is back to 82.92 & Oil has dropped to $75.39.



In fact, the recent appreciation in the US$ value is highlighted by the above chart, which shows the US$ index (US$ against a basket of currencies) rising last week from an 80.267 low on Monday, to a 82.952 high on Friday.

Whilst it may well be that the US$ appreciation was caused by concerns over the state of the US & Global Economy translating into a "flight to quality", which is the historical reputation that the US$ has, it is the direct link between the US$ and Oil contracts that saw the immediate fall in Oil pricing, not a possible future decline in Oil usage!

That said, it could also come to pass, that Oil Demand may fall significantly if the Global Economy plunges into a serious slowdown.
But, it is also possible that US Debt may force a serious re-evaluation of the US$ status as "the international currency" and the resulting depreciation in the US$ could see a dramatic rise in the price of Oil, even whilst Demand was falling significantly.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Aug 18th, 2010 at 2:19pm
Declining Global Oil Supplies Have Caused An Irreversible Decline Of The Fed


The Federal Reserve is an artifact of the Abundance Economics that have governed Western economies over the past 250 years. For nearly 250 years exactly we have climbed the ladder of ever increasing energy density, and ever increasing energy supply. That era has now come to an end.
You can see that view, the end of the abundance era, expressed by a number of different writers, whether it’s today’s longish piece from Matterhorn Management, last year’s piece by Richard Heinberg on the End of Growth, or some of the shorter (free) posts I write here at Gregor.us. To keep things simple, oil is no longer available to fund world growth. Oil is certainly available to fund existing systems as they are currently set up, but not new growth. You can only fund new growth with an energy supply that is growing. That’s why the developing world has turned to coal, not oil, to fund its growth. Based on the most recent data, let’s update the chart of global crude oil production:




The credibility of the United States Federal Reserve is closely aligned with its ability to induce economic activity, by the provision of money and credit. But you can see the problem: if there is not an expanding supply of energy, credit is less useful as credit cannot be paid back very easily in a future of either flat, or declining growth.Now that the return on the Fed’s credit provision has gone into decline, then its incumbent on the Federal Reserve to rethink its approach. But the Fed, governed by post-war economists, is apparently unable to learn from new information.

There is another limit to the Fed’s provision of money and credit: and that is the quantity of debt already being carried in the economy.  As debt levels rose in the US economy over past decades, the Federal Reserve simply kept repeating itself in a kind of argumentum ad infinitum, providing ever more money and credit as though completely unaware of the levels to which debt was rising. Now, presently, the Fed has declared a war on debt-deflation. But, the Fed indicates no understanding of the core thrust of debt-deflation. I’ll help out: there can be no kick-starting of economic activity, until debt levels are reduced significantly. What the Fed is looking for is not the effects of more credit provision, but instead, debt jubilee.

The Federal Reserve is now in permanent, irreversible decline because it has no tools to fight both the limits placed on the economy by oil, and, current debt levels.

Were the Fed to conduct debt jubilee on a scale sufficient to restart demand, that would vaporize the currency. But even if it were possible to manage a workable debt jubilee, then the economy would come more squarely back into confrontation with the energy limit. And there too the Fed would discover that its role as provider of money and credit was reduced, as credit itself relies on future growth.

The Federal Reserve came into existence during the fattest part of the abundance curve, made possible by the extraction of energy-dense fossil fuels. The early part of the last century was the moment when the world started to transition from Coal to Oil, with the fullness of oil’s resource spread out before the industrial economy like a broad forest.

As an artifact, not a creator, of this abundance the Fed was merely a mediator of wealth and performed (at best) a smoothing operation as the economy traded credits on future labor and future growth. Like most institutions in decline, the Fed can either reform itself now and embark on a substantially new mission, or, it can decay into irrelevance as it attracts lower quality intellects, and is dismembered of its power. Indeed, if you look around the edges, that process of decay in the Federal Reserve has already begun.
Link -
http://www.businessinsider.com/federal-reserve-enters-decline-2010-8
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It is certainly correct that the US Federal Reserve does not have the tools to overcome Energy Decline in isolation, let alone in concert with an Aging Global Population, which is set to go into actual decline within 20-30 years and current Global Debt simply exacerbates the situation! i


Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Aug 20th, 2010 at 2:34pm
OPEC's Spare Crude Oil Capacity - Will it Disappear by the End of 2011?

Two energy subjects that often fuel lengthy debates are

•The oil price and its future trajectory
•OPEC’s present marketable spare capacity for crude oil
IEA Oil Market Report for August 2010 estimates OPEC's crude oil spare capacities at around 6,0 Mb/d, while the EIA Short Term Energy Outlook for August, 2010 provides a corresponding estimate of 5,1 Mb/d for 2010.

Oil prices and OPEC spare capacities are closely linked, and therefore monitored closely by companies planning to invest in new supplies that presently are at the margin--for example, some oil sands developments. Most analysts seem to agree that OPEC presently has spare marketable crude oil capacity, and that this spare capacity could be used to maintain an oil price in the present “comfort zone” of $70-80/bbl. The amount of the this spare capacity would thus define how long investments in new supplies at the margin are deferred.


Link -
http://europe.theoildrum.com/node/6859
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This article is very lengthy, so I will leave you read what you wish.

That said, given a standard growth of 2% per year, World Oil Supply would "normally" have grown from 85 mbpd in 2005, to around 93mbpd in 2010, clearly that has not happened and just as clearly supply started to slow before the GFC started in 2007!

Whatever the cause & effect is, it is clear that the game has changed and I believe that is because supply IS tightening, prior to declining.

As we proceed and it becomes apparent that supply can not keep up with the usual Population & Economic growth, then the new paradigm officially begins!
 

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Aug 20th, 2010 at 5:24pm
Oildrum Oilwatch







Non-OPEC supply has been boosted mainly by Russia, which has now over taken Saudi Arabia as the number 1 producing country.

There are indications that Russia is not far away from Peak production and when it levels off &/or starts to decline, we shall then see the truth of whether the fabled OPEC spare production capacity is there or not?

If or should I say when, the reported OPEC spare capacity does not eventuate, after Russia & others go into decline, then all bets are off!!!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Aug 20th, 2010 at 6:15pm
Nine Challenges of Alternative Energy

9. Energy Return on Investment
The complexity of our economy and society is a function of the amount of net energy we have available. “Net energy” is, simply, the amount of energy remaining after we consume energy to produce energy. Consuming energy to produce energy is unavoidable, but only that which is not consumed to produce energy is available to sustain our industrial, transport, residential, commercial, agricultural, and military activities. The ratio of the amount of energy we put into energy production and the amount of energy we produce is called “energy return on investment” (EROI).

This concept differs from “conversion efficiency,” which compares the amount of energy provided as a feedstock to a conversion process (such as an electric power plant or petroleum refinery) with the amount remaining after conversion. Physics dictates that this figure is always less than 100 percent. In contrast, EROI can be very high (e.g., 100:1, or 100 units of energy produced for every 1 unit used to produce it—an “energy source”) or low (0.8:1, or only 0.8 unit of energy produced for every 1 unit used in production—an “energy sink”). Society requires energy sources, not energy sinks, and the magnitude of EROI for an energy source is a key indicator of its contribution to maintenance of social and economic complexity.

Net-energy availability has varied tremendously over time and in different societies. In the last advanced societies that relied only on solar power (sun, water power, biomass, and the animals that depended on biomass), in the seventeenth and early eighteenth centuries, the amount of net energy available was low and dependent largely on the food surpluses provided by farmers. At that time, only 10 to 15 percent of the population was not involved in energy production. As extraction of coal, oil, and natural gas increased in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries, society was increasingly able to substitute the energy from fossil fuels for manual or animal labor, thereby freeing an even larger proportion of society from direct involvement in energy production. In 1870, 70 percent of the U.S. population were farmers; today the figure is less than 2 percent, and every aspect of agricultural production now relies heavily on petroleum or natural gas. The same is true in other energy sectors: Currently, less than 0.5 percent of the U.S. labor force (about 710,000 people) is directly involved in coal mining, oil and gas extraction, petroleum refining, pipeline transport, and power generation, transmission, and distribution.

The challenge of a transition to alternative energy, then, is whether such energy surpluses can be sustained, and thus whether the type of social and economic specialization we enjoy today can be maintained. Indeed, one study estimates that the minimum EROI for the maintenance of industrial society is 5:1, suggesting that no more than 20 percent of social and economic resources can be dedicated to the production of energy without undermining the structure of industrial society.11

In general, most alternative energy sources have low EROI values (see figure 18.3). Because of their high energy-input requirements, biofuels produce very little or no energy surplus.12 Similarly, tar sands provide less than 3 units of energy for each unit consumed. In contrast, wind energy shows a high return on energy investment, but it is subject to the problems of intermittency and siting issues.



A high EROI is not sufficient to ensure that the structure of modern society and economies can be maintained, but it is a prerequisite. Unfortunately, EROI is not well understood or routinely used in energy analyses by government or industry, despite the insights it can provide. Because of the enormous investment in resources and energy that any alternative energy pathway will require, it is important that we look beyond simple financial payback, particularly in a future of rising energy prices, declining fossil-fuel resources, and increasing danger of climate catastrophe.Link -
http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6854
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The rest of this article is also worth a look, but the EROI issue is certainly worth taking the time to fully understand!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Aug 23rd, 2010 at 4:12pm
Analysts warn of threat to oil price stability

The deteriorating global economic outlook and weakening OPEC discipline could force oil prices as low as US$50 per barrel within the next year, analysts say.

“We see both lower prices and a tighter range ahead but with increased risks,” Lawrence Eagles, an analyst at the US investment bank JPMorgan Chase, wrote in a recent report. “Weaker economic growth, energy efficiency and [OPEC] intransigence provide downside risks.



“If demand drops, the Gulf Trio [of] Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates, are likely to demand cuts from ‘leaky’ [OPEC] members to rebalance the market, but any delay in response risks a fall in prices [to] as low as $50 a barrel.”

Late last month, the bank cut its forecast for New York oil prices for the rest of this year by 5.5 per cent to $77.25 per barrel. It also lowered its price forecast for next year to an average of $79.25 per barrel from $90.



That move has been followed by a flood of bearish economic reports from the US, Europe and Asia. The gloomy data triggered a sharp fall in equities last week as the US dollar strengthened, which combined to send crude prices south.

On Friday, crude dipped as low as $73.96 in New York as OPEC, Oman and Yemen cut exports to China on slowing demand.

Crude’s recent retreat from above $82 per barrel to the middle of the $70 to $80 range that has prevailed for much of this year followed a recent OPEC forecast of anaemic growth in global oil demand next year.
Link -
http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100821/BUSINESS/708219918/1678/pollarchive
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Oil Price is a reflection of US$ value rising, which is a reflection of concern of a declining world Economy,
which means less Oil is likely to be consummed, which means that the Oil Price will decline on the back of a lower demand,
unless Supply is actually in decline,
in which case the Price of Oil may actually rise substantially,
which would then precipitate another Economic Decline,
because the Energy to GDP ratio would rise rise too much,
causing the world Economy to decline further,
which would mean less Oil consumption
etc. etc

There are a number of major influencing factors in play, at present.

Whilst Politics is not one of those major influencing factors, it can make a difference at the margins, to improve the situation slightly, but it can not make those major influencing factors disappear!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Aug 24th, 2010 at 12:06am
UK government held secret peak oil talks

The UK government has been holding secret talks to assess the potential impact of peak oil, according to reports, suggesting that it is seriously concerned about the issue.

According to reports in the Observer newspaper, the Department of Energy and Climate Change (DECC), the Bank of England, and the Ministry of Defence participated in talks over the issue.

Documents, obtained by the newspaper under the Freedom of Information Act, revealed that the departments believe the government's policy on peak oil is " not quite right" and needs to "take account of climate change and put more emphasis on reducing demand and also the fact that peak oil may increase volatility in the market".

DECC, which has been asking industry leaders for their views on peak oil, refused to release details about current policy discussions, in spite of having written privately that secrecy around the topic is "probably not good".

Peak oil, a phenomenon first posited by Shell geoscientist Marion King Hubbert, suggests that oil production will reach a maximum level, after which point it will go into decline. The concept has been controversial, with industry commentators varying wildly on the timing of the peak.

Airline magnate Richard Branson predicted an oil crunch within five years in February, while others, particularly the International Energy Agency, have predicted sustained production for several decades more. Some experts even believe oil production may have already peaked and oil prices have only been kept low over the past few years as a result of the global recession.

In February this year, the UK Industry Taskforce on Peak Oil and Energy Security – a group of companies including Virgin, Scottish and Southern Energy and the StageCoach Group – released a report criticising the UK government for not taking peak oil seriously.

The report called on the UK government to prepare for peak oil, which it said could have economic, political and social impacts from as early as 2015.

The group is now preparing a follow up report, which is expected to be released in October and will assess how the BP oil spill in the Gulf and the resulting cuts in anticipated output from deepwater oil rigs will impact global production and potentially lead to oil supplies peaking even earlier.

In the US, the Joint Operating Environment within the Department of Defense, published a report on peak oil in February warning that peak oil could have an effect within a few years.

It warned that "a severe energy crunch is inevitable without a massive expansion of production and refining capacity", adding that "by 2012, surplus oil production capacity could entirely disappear, and as early as 2015, the shortfall in output could reach nearly 10 MBD [Millions of Barrels per Day]".
Link -
http://www.businessgreen.com/business-green/news/2268554/uk-government-held-secret-peak

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by muso on Aug 24th, 2010 at 10:31am

perceptions_now wrote on Aug 20th, 2010 at 6:15pm:
Nine Challenges of Alternative Energy

9. Energy Return on Investment


The two most important Energy generation technologies for the future are missing from that graph. They are Nuclear and Solar Thermal. Solar Thermal is much more cost effective than standard non-concentrated  Solar PV, and represents a larger market share in the US for example.

Nuclear is likely to rival crude oil in the Generation III power plants. The older technology averaged about 5:1. The new technology should be around 20:1 (conservative estimate). It's an American study, and it omits Sugar Cane derived Ethanol too. I suspect that the results are skewed because it was written for certain vested interests.

The Americans don't have as much Solar energy per square metre that we have in Australia either.

Sugar Cane derived ethanol has an EROI of between 8.3 (average) and 10 (best).

http://news.mongabay.com/bioenergy/2006/10/brazilian-ethanol-is-sustainable-and.html

The other technology on the horizon is high efficiency concentrated triple cell PV and hybrid thermal/PV systems with concentrators.  These have tracking systems and they attain an overall efficiency of up to 75% for hybrid systems even with small scale installations.

Zenith Energy in Israel claim grid parity (4kW peak system), as do Green and Gold Energy in Adelaide Australia with their Solar cube technology (3kW peak).

The Americans (Soliant Energy) are also working hard on concentrated PV although all they offer at the moment are 330Watt peak units:

http://www.technologyreview.com/Energy/18718/
http://www.zenithsolar.com/

http://www.greenandgoldenergy.com.au/




Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Aug 24th, 2010 at 3:51pm
China Will Force the World Off Oil

As a country’s per capita income increases, its per capita oil consumption increases. Consumption growth tends to be modest up until $15,000 income per head, but then accelerates rapidly. China is quickly approaching this point. South Korea, which consumes 3% of world oil output, is too small to disrupt oil markets.

China is too big not to disrupt them. Were China’s per capita oil consumption to be brought up to South Korea’s, its share of global consumption would increase from today’s 10% to over 70%.

In order to cap China’s share at 22%, which is the U.S. share today, global oil output would have to increase by a massive 13% per annum over ten years – well beyond the 1% growth averaged since 1975.

This rate of growth is inconceivable, even if vastly more expensive sources of supply, such as the Canadian oil sands, were developed at breakneck speed.

If China’s recent economic growth pace continues, it will surpass South Korea’s current per capita GDP shortly after 2020 – meaning that the world may be forced onto alternative energy sources much sooner than it realizes.



Link -
http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/2010/08/cfr-china-poised-to-shock-world-oil.html
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How far can you stretch a lacky band, before it snaps?

If you are unsure, then it would be prudent to take mitigating steps to try to ensure the lacky band does not approach its limits!
I think some steps have been put in place, we will see how things progess?

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Aug 26th, 2010 at 7:27pm
Green technology key to future

GREEN, clean industries are the way of the future but Fraser Coast people must act now if the region's idyllic lifestyle is to be maintained, says Maggie John of Transition Towns.

“Oil has fuelled much of the massive population growth and the extraordinary achievements of the last 150 years. It is the lifeblood of industrial society,” Ms John said.

“According to a growing number of experts, soon the world will reach the ultimate peak in global oil production. After this point, production will begin its slow but terminal decline.

“Peak Oil represents an historical turning point, from an era of growth to an era of contraction. Peak Gas won't be far behind.”

Ms John said alternative energy sources could not fill the entire gap that oil and gas left behind and as a result, massive social changes were certain.


“There's not one of us who won't be touched by this in the next 10 years but there are things we can do to help ourselves,” she said.

“As oil prices rise there will be flow-on effect for transport, food, services, business and lifestyle. Tourism will suffer, supermarket food prices will skyrocket, vehicles will be used less, there will be less job security and a reduction in essential services.

“We have to learn to be much more energy efficient and technology can help.”

Link -
http://www.frasercoastchronicle.com.au/story/2010/08/26/green-clean-industries-fraser-coast-maggie-john/

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Aug 31st, 2010 at 12:10pm
OPEC Reserves & Production

Based on published data, the ME OPEC countries contain more than 50% of the World's remaining producible oil reserves. Understanding the reliability of these reserves estimates is therefore vital to the future of the oil driven growth in the World Economy.

The anomalous nature of ME OPEC reserves, illustrated below for Kuwait, can be summarised as follows:

1. Reserves were uplifted by 38% in 1984. This does not relate to any verifiable new field discoveries. If Kuwait was the only country to have done this it might be excused as rectifying a past mistake. But in the period 1984 to 1987 all of the ME OPEC countries uplifted reserves by large amounts in this period (Figure 3). For example, the UAE increased their oil reserves by 295% in 1986. One view of these anomalous revisions is that they are related to OPEC quota negotiations and are not founded on geological or engineering data.

2. Following this arbitrary uplift, reserves have more or less remained unchanged. Most significantly, no deductions have been made for production for around 20 years.





The Big 5 ME OPEC producers all show a similar history to Kuwait, with large arbitrary uplift in reserves during the 1980s, followed by "flat line" reserves histories lacking evidence for depletion, though additions are evident in Iran and Iraq.

So much for Reserves, but suffice to say, the reserves quoted clearly are not there!



It has been said that OPEC have reduced their 'barrels per day' production production a number of times over the last decade.

The reality is that there were two substantial Production declines, the first following the 9/11 attacks & the 2nd following the current GFC, both relate to declining Demand, due to the Economic slowdowns that followed both events.

However, whilst the period mid 2004 to mid 2008 was a relatively stable period, the Oil Price went thru the roof, but production remained stable.

It defies believe that whilst prices rise dramatically and Demand also rose during the 2004-2008 period (in line with Economic & Population Growth), that Oil Production (Supply) did not also rise in line with Growth during that period.

If both Demand & Price are rising, then Economics 101 would see Supply (Production) increase , to take advantage of that situation.

However, Supply (Production) did not rise in line with Growth during that period & it is still only just holding onto current Production.

Why, Because fields such as Ghawar (in Saudi Arabia) & Burgan (in Kuwait) are now in decline and that is why Production will not recover!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Aug 31st, 2010 at 7:40pm
Peak Oil Update



World oil production (EIA Monthly) for crude oil + NGL. The median forecast is calculated from 15 models that are predicting a peak before 2020 (Bakhtiari, Smith, Staniford, Loglets, Shock model, GBM, ASPO-[70,58,45], Robelius Low/High, HSM,Duncan&Youngquist).

95% of the predictions  sees a production peak between 2008 and 2010 at 77.5 - 85.0 mbpd (The 95% forecast variability area in yellow is computed using a bootstrap technique). The magenta area is the 95% confidence interval for the population-based model.




World production (EIA data). Blue lines and pentagrams are indicating monthly maximum. Monthly data for CO from the EIA. Annual data for NGPL and Other Liquids from 1980 to 2001 have been upsampled to get monthly estimates.

Link -
http://www.theoildrum.com/node/5521#more
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As can be seen, Production has plateaued and the best concensus is that we are beginning to decline & depart away from Population Growth Demands!  

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Aug 31st, 2010 at 9:07pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 31st, 2010 at 8:23pm:
Perceptions -

Do you deny that technology on oil drilling has advanced considerably in the last decade alone?

Do you agree we can drill deeper, safer and cleaner than ever before?


This all must be taken into account.
Oil is becoming more and more reachable and we can drill in ever more remote places.


No, why would I!

But, whilst it is only affecting Production at the margins, it is raising Production costs greatly and lessening the EROEI in those Deepwater areas & in the likes of the Canadian Tar Sands operations!



It has been taken into consideration, but as I said, it will only affect the margins, it will not change the overall direction, which is that OIL PRODUCTION HAS PEAKED!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by muso on Sep 1st, 2010 at 9:21am

perceptions_now wrote on Aug 31st, 2010 at 9:07pm:
It has been taken into consideration, but as I said, it will only affect the margins, it will not change the overall direction, which is that OIL PRODUCTION HAS PEAKED!


Agreed, but there is just a chance that it could peak again (higher). I agree that there will be a drop off around 2015. In my view, we have to start replacing current energy with renewables and nuclear as a priority. If we can do that, we might be able to avert a really major economic crash.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 1st, 2010 at 12:13pm

muso wrote on Sep 1st, 2010 at 9:21am:

perceptions_now wrote on Aug 31st, 2010 at 9:07pm:
It has been taken into consideration, but as I said, it will only affect the margins, it will not change the overall direction, which is that OIL PRODUCTION HAS PEAKED!


Agreed, but there is just a chance that it could peak again (higher). I agree that there will be a drop off around 2015. In my view, we have to start replacing current energy with renewables and nuclear as a priority. If we can do that, we might be able to avert a really major economic crash.


Yes, it could Peak again, but if that were going to happen, it would have to be soon, given the net exchange between the additional production capacities of new fields coming on stream, the deletion rate of existing fields and the  future Demand for what is to be consumed, due to likely Population increases.

In fact, IF "the current GFC did not just happen", then it would be likely that the current fall in Demand & Consumption, would be exposed as actually masking a decline in Production capacity.

Whenever, it becomes obvious that Production Capacity of Oil is heading South & Demand is heading North, then the crash will ocurr. I suspect that will happen well before 2015, but you should never say never.

You are correct about transitioning away from the current Fossil Fuel based Energy supply!

Renewables must come heavily into the picture, as will highly improved versions of some of the Carbon Based products and I suspect that Nuclear may also be involved, but perhaps only for a transitional time.

One of the problems is that there are simply not a sufficient range of products available for all of the current uses of Oil, in particular and the huge timelines involved to move from one Energy based system to another, particularly when related to the likely time that we will or more prcisely, we will NOT have available to us, not just in Australia, but Globally.  

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 1st, 2010 at 7:51pm
The Peak Oil Crisis: Prospects for China

Headlines were made recently when it was announced that in July China's GDP surpassed that of Japan to become the world's second largest economy. This was immediately followed by a passel of stories speculating on how long it would take China's domestic output to surpass that of the U.S. and thus become the world's largest and by inference most influential economy. The mean estimate of the prognosticators seems to be about 20 years so that by 2030 China could be #1. This estimate is derived, of course, by assuming that China's economy will continue to grow at circa 10 percent each year and that the U.S. in turn will suffer from decades of stagnation.

If only it were so simple.

There is no question that China has had 40 good years. Once the Chinese got over celebrating their revolution, the cult of the personality (Mao worship), and the more onerous features of Marxism-Maoism (such as shooting capitalists), they came up with a political-economic system, which while not democratic, served well to harness the country's strengths and set it on the way to rapid economic growth. Blessed with a good endowment of natural resources, a long tradition of selecting and educating the best and the brightest for leadership, a reasonably homogeneous population, and the developed world as an example of where they would like to go, China has assembled a mixture of capitalism and socialism that undeniably yielded decades of impressive economic growth.

By moving tens of millions of peasant farmers into industrial enterprises where they worked long hours, under harsh discipline, for poor wages, China soon became the world's preeminent factory producing an inordinate share of the globe's manufactured goods. The question of the day is "How much longer can this last?" Rapid economic growth requires every increasing quantities of fossil fuels and other minerals. After forty years of hyper-exploitation of its domestic mineral deposits, China is now in a position where it must import half of its daily oil demand and is starting to import coal and other minerals as domestic sources become thinner and more difficult to produce.

Recent events suggest that China may suffer disproportionally from the effects of global warming.
The key question in all this is how much longer China's economic miracle can continue before the realities of finite mineral resources force a slowdown? Another five years of 10 percent annual economic growth will result in Beijing increasing its oil consumption by another 2.5-3 million barrels per day. This alone would likely mop up much of the world's spare capacity to produce oil and result in very large price increases. When China's ever growing demand is added to that of India, Brazil and the oil exporting states, the likelihood that we will see a substantial increase in oil prices within the next five years becomes very high.

Although China still has large reserves of coal, they have now begun importing which suggests they are having trouble producing it fast enough from deeper, aging mines to keep up with demand. Some believe that Beijing will only be able to keep increasing production for another 15 or 20 years before peak coal production is reached.

Recent events suggest that China may suffer disproportionally from the effects of global warming. This year the country was ravished by droughts, dust storms, and floods as increasing global temperatures worked their way on the weather patterns affecting China. If these changed patterns prove to be permanent feature of China's weather, droughts, floods, tropical storms, falling water tables and the melting of the Himalayan glaciers may force China into a survival mode where the struggle for food and water will trump industrial growth.

Although, climate change, decreasing exports, and depleting mineral resources will all eventually impact China's ability to grow economically, the availability and affordability of oil is still likely to impact first. Despite the current oil glut, all indicators suggest that global oil supplies are likely to start running short in the next three to five years. Although China Incorporated may be in better shape to weather the initial stages of a price spike than the average American consumer, it is doubtful if China can grow its economy at 10 percent annually without increasing supplies of oil.

Beijing clearly recognizes all this and is moving to build a more efficient, less energy-intensive economy that can grow with less fossil fuel. Moreover, China's leaders are catching onto the notion that the costs of ignoring air and water pollution may eventually be prohibitive. The precept that China can keep growing its emissions until they reach the per capita level of the industrial nations may eventually fall as climate aberrations start to take an unacceptable toll on economic growth.

There are many unknowns and variables in all this, but it is a good bet that China's miracle of 10 percent annual economic growth has a half-life far shorter than many suspect.

Link -
http://www.fcnp.com/commentary/national/7242-the-peak-oil-crisis-prospects-for-china.html
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China is still linked to the same Global Macro Economic factors that all other nations are linked to and they are still interlocked with the USA!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 1st, 2010 at 7:56pm
OPEC Oil Output Fell on Iraqi Pipeline Bombing, Survey Shows

Aug. 30 (Bloomberg) -- The Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries’ crude-oil output fell in August to a seven- month low, led by Iraq, where production was hobbled by a pipeline bombing, a Bloomberg News survey showed.

Production slipped 75,000 barrels, or 0.3 percent, to an average 29.15 million barrels a day, the lowest level since January, according to the survey. Output by members with quotas, all except Iraq, dropped 5,000 barrels to 26.805 million, 1.96 million above their target.

Iraqi output dropped 70,000 barrels, or 2.9 percent, to 2.345 million this month, the biggest decrease in OPEC. It was the lowest level since April. The Persian Gulf nation was the group’s third-largest producer in August.

“This shows Iraq is still a risky place to do business,” said Rick Mueller, director of oil markets at Energy Security Analysis Inc. in Wakefield, Massachusetts. “The events of the past week and drawdown of the U.S. presence will add to the uncertainty.”

Iraqi oil exports by pipeline from the northern Kirkuk fields to the Turkish port of Ceyhan were halted from Aug. 20 to Aug. 26 after a bombing stopped the flow of crude.

The last U.S. combat unit left Iraq on Aug. 18, seven years after the invasion that ousted Saddam Hussein. Fewer than 50,000 U.S. troops remain in the country, mainly to train Iraqi forces. On Aug. 25, Iraqi cities were hit in bombings that targeted the police, killing at least 37 people and injuring 126.
Link -
http://noir.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aUbvl3HNpBYs
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And, that is the reason the US is in & will remain in, Iraq!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 2nd, 2010 at 10:31pm
Leaked Study on Peak Oil Warns of Severe Global Energy Crisis

This week a study on peak oil by a German military think tank was leaked on the Internet. The document shows that the German government is closely studying the issue of peak oil, and is aware of the potential for serious consequences as oil production declines. The study is reminiscent of the Hirsch Report, commissioned by the U.S. Department of Energy, that warned of the risks posed by peak oil.

The document warns of the potential for regional shortages, market failures, and a shift in political power toward those capable of exporting oil. This report describes potential outcomes that require planning and preparation.

The report clearly lays out just how vulnerable Europe will be because of its continuing dependence upon Russia for both oil and gas, and notes that Russia will be in a very strong political bargaining position as a result.

Peak Oil
Implications Of Resource Scarcity On (National) Security

Center for German Army Transformation, Group for “Future Studies”
July 2010

Introduction
The focus of the document is on the topic of finite resources, using Peak Oil as an example. The report is part of a series of publications focused on long term (30 years) with the intent to enable the Ministry of Defense to take action early.

In the past, resources have always triggered conflicts, mostly of regional nature. For the future, the authors expect this to become a global problem, as scarcity (mainly of crude oil) will affect everybody.

The authors confirm multiple views on Peak Oil timing and concede that there will be Peak Oil eventually. The study isn’t about positioning the problem on a timeline, but instead about the consequences of a peak. They expect major consequences with a delay of 15-30 years after the peak has hit.

The report refers to the uncertainty of reserve statements mainly in OPEC countries based on the quota allocation method within OPEC but also refers to the possibility of better extraction technologies.

They suggest that it has become urgent to understand those consequences of an eventual peak now in order to have enough time to adapt.

The Importance of Oil
2.1       Oil as a driver of globalization
95% of all industrial outputs is dependent on oil, in fuels, as a chemical base for polymer production etc. Oil has become a key driver of modern lifestyle and globalization.

Substantial oil price increases poses a systemic risk, not just for obvious things like transportation, but equally for other subsystems.

Thus, internationally, but equally nationally, there is a vital interest in securing access to oil, which is currently possible on world spot markets, with OPEC being cooperative due to a mutual dependency between key actors (and a massive presence of the U.S military in the gulf region).

Yet on the other hand, regional conflicts can always at least partially be attributed to resources, such as in the Caucasus region, the Middle East or in Nigeria, or they fuel conflicts due to the wealth they create (such as in Africa).

The report sees – within a timeframe until the year 2040 – a changed international security layout based on new risks (including transport risks for fuels) and new roles of actors in a possible conflict around the distribution of increasingly scarce resources.

General interdependencies driven by Peak Oil
Oil as a deciding factor in international relationships
With increasing scarcity, producers are increasingly in an advantageous position, both from high revenues and access to cheaper oil when compared to spot market prices. This partly reverts the trend to free oil markets which took place after the ’70s shocks, and gives those countries more control over the supply chain, with a risk of monopolies and nationalizations, and of “political pricing.”

Further, oil producers use increasing amounts of their production internally at lower prices, which increases domestic consumption and inefficiencies, accelerating the problem.

The report then looks at increasing “strategic” moves by key actors including the Chinese CNPC (China National Petroleum Corporation), which tries to grab the sources that are still available (particularly in Asia and Africa), but often at relatively unattractive conditions.

Overall, the authors expect a reduction of “free market” mechanisms in oil trade, and a rise in more protectionism, exchange deals, and political alliances between suppliers and customers, which could lead to significant geopolitical shifts.

Overall, higher volatility and loss of trust are seen as possible outcomes in a world where oil supplies are limited, increasing the need for “oil related diplomacy” and thus increasing risks for moral hazard among all actors, which in turn decreases overall global supply security.

The Middle East is identified as a very dangerous region with high external involvement from many players and thus a very unstable overall situation.
Link -
http://www.consumerenergyreport.com/2010/09/02/leaked-study-peak-oil-warns-severe-global-energy-crisis/
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The Hirsh report also makes interesting reading!  



Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 6th, 2010 at 12:26pm
The Fake Fire Brigade - How We Cheat Ourselves about our Energy Future

The longer straw - the future of fossil fuels (and most other resources)

The future of fossil fuels, particularly of oil, but also many other resources including water and minerals, looks problematic. People keep discussing proven reserves and whether peak oil already has arrived or not.
Unfortunately, we will only be able to put this argument to rest in hindsight. But what is more important is the fact that - no matter how much additional oil we can still retrieve - future barrels will be much more difficult to extract relative to the past.


Drilling a hole in the desert and waiting for black gold to gush out is infinitely less complex than drilling a much deeper hole 5000 feet under water, as  the public is now painfully beginning to understand. Many experts agree that we probably have used about 40-50% of recoverable oil. It is difficult to prove such numbers, but we may for a minute assume that this is true. For pessimists, this makes our glass half empty.

We still have half of our favorite drink left, but the efforts to get to it are becoming increasingly painful, significantly diminishing the net benefit of that next sip. And so we might (have to) give up drinking long before the glass is empty, just because its too difficult to get at the fluid in a meaningful way, and because the effort of sucking eventually exceeds the benefit and joy from each sip.

The more we have extracted, the more difficult it becomes to get to the next unit. Over time, this increasing effort makes the production less and less useful to societies. Or to use our drinking straw example: at one point sucking out more from that glass exhausts us so much (e.g. the energy invested per sip becomes so big) that we will have to stop our effort and turn to something else, or - if there is no equivalent alternative - drink less.

Renewable energies - the fake fire brigade
Overall, our global energy delivery system continues to be as dependent on fossil fuels as ever before, or even more so. On top of that, even those renewable technologies are mostly based on fossil fuel inputs, which are either used during the manufacturing of the equipment, or even during production and processing (e.g. biofuels).

Most technological optimists believe that this challenge can be met with some combination of biofuels, renewable electricity generation technologies, electric cars, smart grids, and many other investments. However, when we examine these technologies more closely, none of these so-called “solutions” come close to providing any relief, quite the contrary.


As Robert Rapier, a well-respected energy analyst, puts it: “We are running out of traditional energy sources, which can be compared to our house being on fire. While that happens, many people linger around the burning building and pretend to be firemen, mimicking their actions, carrying some equipment, shouting commands - but actually they have no real water, no real skills, no appropriate tools.

That way your house will burn to the ground because the “real” firemen never showed up, as everybody thinks there are more than enough firemen on site.” This is exactly what it is: when taking a closer look,  most - almost all - of the renewable energy technologies promoted today won't solve any of our future energy problems.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 6th, 2010 at 12:37pm
The Fake Fire Brigade - How We Cheat Ourselves about our Energy Future

The future of electricity – a shaky one
Today’s electricity grids are key building blocks of modern civilizations. Advanced economies depend on the reliable and discretionary delivery of power to every single socket. Our way of living, which includes the ability to read this article, wouldn’t be possible without.

Today, this is manageable, because most sources are either providing steady power flows (such as coal, nuclear or run-of-river hydro power plants) or then they are mostly controllable (such as gas fired power plants or hydropower from dammed water pools). With that mix of inputs, electricity on demand becomes possible for most advanced economies.

Additions of wind and solar power over the last decade introduced renewable electricity generation technologies into the grid. Those two sources have none of the above qualities: they neither provide steady flows, nor are they controllable. “No wind” means "no power", so does “no sunshine”, and even sharing across long-distances using high voltage DC (HVDC) transmission lines won’t change that fact, due to the stochastic nature of the inputs.

Given sufficient backup generation systems powered by fossil fuels, a larger penetration of renewable electricity is definitely possible, and might reduce carbon dioxide production and other externalities, albeit at a horribly high cost. However, these types of add-in systems fail to break our dependence on fossil fuels and don’t prove that we can deliver stable electricity in a world where renewable sources supply a majority of inputs into electricity grids.

The truth about electricity is simple, surprising and daunting: with the most promising renewable technologies - wind and solar - irrespective of expensive supplements being added, electricity systems as we know them today will not be able to operate.

And for those who now suggest to go for a nuclear option: irrespective of any argument about long-term risk, this technology too has a number of downsides, among them the inability to control output according to demand, relatively high cost, and a high dependence on fossil fuels both for the construction of plants and the mining of uranium.

And last, but not least, the fact that uranium too, is a non-renewable resources, subject to the fact that we will eventually arrive at the limits of meaningfully extractable material (e.g. the ones offering an attractive RREI) - particularly if we plan on scaling up nuclear power to replace other fuels.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 6th, 2010 at 1:08pm
The Fake Fire Brigade - How We Cheat Ourselves about our Energy Future

Combustion fuels – headaches all over
The other big challenge ahead lies in fuels used for transportation and heating, mainly in oil. This is the place where scarcity is most apparent, as described above. We wouldn’t try to drill in deep water or extract oil from shales if it wasn’t for the inability to find and explore easier and cheaper sources.

What this has done, at a minimum, is lifted the cost of oil to above 70 US$ a barrel, about three times its inflation-adjusted long-term average price. This is not because of speculation, as some claim, but just because it costs 60-70 US$ to extract those least attractive sources. Thus, we truly have to start thinking about alternative ways to move our cars, trucks, planes and even tractors.

The easy way out would be electric vehicles, but after reading the above paragraph on electricity, this might not be an entirely safe bet. And that doesn't even take into account the still existing technology and cost problems with battery technology.

One of the many challenges of a number of renewable energy technologies is that they are themselves heavily dependent on fossil fuel inputs. This is true for raw material extraction and manufacturing of solar panels, wind turbines and other things, but even more so for many so called “green” fuels.

Significant inputs to the production process of biofuels - for example of corn based ethanol - come in the form of oil (fuels, pesticides), coal (electricity) or natural gas (fertilizer). This has two consequences: first, it doesn't break our dependence from fossil fuels and second, as fossil fuels become more expensive, so do these "alternatives".

However, one of the biggest challenges of all renewable (green) fuels is their limited availability. There simply isn't enough biomass potential in any Western society to produce a sufficient amount of non-fossil combustion fuels that could meaningfully replace what fossil fuels we use.

So in a nutshell, there is no such thing as a replacement for fossil liquids coming from biofuels, instead this is just one more of those fake fire brigades.

A true plan for the future – begin from the other end
All of today’s planning efforts take place based on today’s energy delivery systems. We add some renewables to the current mix and see how we can manage. When we see that this causes problems, we respond by adding highly complex and costly bells and whistles.

Alternatively, we start introducing new technologies that will never be able to truly scale up, are in fact heavily dependent on fossil fuel inputs, or both. We would go so far as to say that we can safely prove that more than 90% of energy system alternatives discussed and introduced today have no potential of helping us to secure a longer term energy future.

We are thus not sure if it is a good idea to put all of society’s efforts into fixes and add-ons to today’s energy delivery and consumption systems, but instead we strongly recommend the development of approaches and technologies that radically break with a fossil fuel base. The only meaningful way of looking at the future of energy delivery and application technologies would be to build energy systems based on an assumption that renewable technologies have to provide the entire amount required by our societies, and then to reshape societies so they are in line with what and how these technologies can deliver.

Only when applying this (what is probably considered radical) view, we would be able to model a sustainable and reliable energy future. Once we have figured out how this can work, we may still consider how to make the best use of our remaining fossil fuels, but going the other way will just fool us into believing that we have solutions, until we recognize we don't. And today, to be frank, this is exactly where we are. A lot of fake firemen are standing around a fire that is right now openly breaking out.

IIER puts substantial effort into trying to understand what energy systems could work in the long run. But unfortunately, very few other people do so, which is something we want to change. Instead of spending billions or even trillions on amendments that most likely won't help, a significant portion of these investments should go into a completely new design of our energy future. Let's finally bring in the real fire brigade.
Link -
http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6641
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As usual, there is much to agree with and much to disagree with.
The glass half full or half empty!

However, there is an absolute, we can not increase the size of the glass, we can not increase the size of the fossil Fuels that remain.

We may be able to increase the Energy mix, by employing new Technologies and Renewal Energy sources, but not to an extent that will allow our Global Economy & Population to continue its exponential growth rate, as has applied over the last 80-100 years.  

So, decisions will be made to re-shape society, to enable a more sustainable future.

The question is, just how much input, if any, will WE have in that decision making process?

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 7th, 2010 at 1:19pm
Toxic legacy of uranium haunts proposed Colorado mill

GRAND JUNCTION — As Colorado nears the possible approval of the nation's first new uranium mill in a quarter century, the federal government and state continue to deal with the staggeringly expensive and never- ending mess left by earlier mills.

More than a billion dollars has been spent cleaning up radioactive tailings piles and lessening toxic leaks into rivers and aquifers at nine defunct mills in Colorado. Nearly 20 million tons of radioactive tailings sit in disposal sites where they must be monitored in perpetuity. Hundreds of acres of unusable water fill contaminated aquifers.

Much has changed in the understanding of uranium milling since that toxic legacy was created. New regulations are in place to make the industry safer. But those regulations are still untested. Costs for dealing with its inevitable contamination are as long-lived as its radioactive leavings: The state's latest regulations call for the monitoring of new mill waste for 1,000 years.
A full picture of all the taxpayer and privately funded expenses for past cleanup and ongoing monitoring and maintenance is not available because multiple agencies — the Department of Energy, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission and the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment — along with multiple programs within those agencies, have a hand in overseeing the uranium legacy. The only federal cost information available is 5 years old.

Using those federal figures, The Denver Post found that, so far, the cleanup cost of mills in Colorado ranges from $50 million to $504 million per mill.

Nonetheless, the state is requiring that owners of the proposed new mill put up only $12 million in a bond for cleanup — an inadequate pittance in the opinion of mill opponents with an eye on history.
Link -
http://www.denverpost.com/ci_15996355
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A $12 million bond and a 1,000 year wait!

Makes sense?

Whilst I suspect that Nuclear make be pressed into action, to make up a short to medium term shortfall in the transition away from Oil & Coal, it will run into some Public scrutiny & deservedly so.

Like Oil & Coal, Nuclear is certainly a two edged sword!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 7th, 2010 at 4:51pm

perceptions_now wrote on Sep 5th, 2010 at 12:23pm:
Whilst I agree there are a number of replacements for "carbon based" power generation, there are also major obstacles, including -
1) Lack of time, given that we are already 5 years into a Post Peak Oil world. (See Hirsch report)
2) Lack of funds, given the existing amount of Sovereign & Personal Debt, thruout most of the world.
3) Other major negative Economic factors, including Demographics, which will exacerbate the above factors.

That said, we have little alternative, but to proceed with all haste, as time is also getting short on the other great drama, that being Climate Change.

In respect of Nuclear power, whilst I think it may be needed, at least in the medium term, it may find great difficulty getting past public opinion!

Notwithstanding the above, the other great difficulty and perhaps greatest, is the transition of Transport (See Hirsch report), which will be very time consuming and by its very nature (at present), it may require a largely liquid fix?  

Finally, I would get too concerned about 40 years from now, the next 20 will be concerning enough!




freediver wrote on Sep 6th, 2010 at 11:08pm:

Quote:
I think I already substantially covered that in the following post.


But those points don't support your claim. They contradict it, as I have already pointed out. Simply listing a bunch of random opinions and factoids is not the same thing as contructing a reasoned argument.


No, I'm happy, it explains what I wanted to convey!

Btw, you may "enjoy" the film embedded in the following link.
It is titled "A Crude Awakening" and it conveys quite a bit of information relevant to the Energy discussion.

http://videosift.com/video/A-Crude-Awakening-The-Oil-Crash-full-film


Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 8th, 2010 at 8:30pm
Coal and Oil: The Dark Monarchs of Global Energy: Understanding Supply and Extraction Patterns and their Importance for Future Production

Abstract:
The formation of modern society has been dominated by coal and oil, and together these two fossil fuels account for nearly two thirds of all primary energy used by mankind. This makes future production a key question for future social development and this thesis attempts to answer whether it is possible to rely on an assumption of ever increasing production of coal and oil. Both coal and oil are finite resources, created over long time scales by geological processes. It is thus impossible to extract more fossil fuels than geologically available. In other words, there are limits to growth imposed by nature.

The concept of depletion and exhaustion of recoverable resources is a fundamental question for the future extraction of coal and oil. Historical experience shows that peaking is a well established phenomenon in production of various natural resources. Coal and oil are no exceptions, and historical data shows that easily exploitable resources are exhausted while more challenging deposits are left for the future.

For oil, depletion can also be tied directly to the physical laws governing fluid flows in reservoirs. Understanding and predicting behaviour of individual fields, in particularly giant fields, are essential for understanding future production. Based on comprehensive databases with reserve and production data for hundreds of oilfields, typical patterns were found. Alternatively, depletion can manifest itself indirectly through various mechanisms. This has been studied for coal.

Over 60% of the global crude oil production is derived from only around 330 giant oilfields, where many of them are becoming increasingly mature. The annual decline in existing oil production has been determined to be around 6% and it is unrealistic that this will be offset by new field developments, additional discoveries or unconventional oil. This implies that the peak of the oil age is here.

For coal a similar picture emerges, where 90% of the global coal production originates from only 6 countries. Some of them, such as the USA show signs of increasing maturity and exhaustion of the recoverable amounts. However, there is a greater uncertainty about the recoverable reserves and coal production may yield a global maximum somewhere between 2030 and 2060.

This analysis shows that the global production peaks of both oil and coal can be expected comparatively soon. This has significant consequences for the global energy supply and society, economy and environment. The results of this thesis indicate that these challenges should not be taken lightly.
Link -
http://uu.diva-portal.org/smash/record.jsf?pid=diva2:343046
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At the bottom of the link page, is another link to download the full report in PDF format.

Whilst it is a lengthy report, I recommend it, particularly for those who have limited knowledge of the issues or those who think they know it all.


As the final notes of thios report say -
"If we take a lamp and shine it toward the wall, a bright spot will appear on the wall. If the lamp is the search for truth and for understanding, one should not assume that the light on the wall is the truth as too many often do.

The light is not the goal of the search; it is rather the result of the search. The more intense the search is, the brighter the light on the wall will be. The brighter the light on the wall, the greater the sense of revelation upon seeing it! Similarly, someone who does not search, who does not bring a lantern with him, sees nothing. For what we perceive as truth, is the by-product of our own search. It may simply be an appreciation of the light, pure and unblemished, not understanding that it comes from us.

Sometimes we stand in front of the light and assume that we are the center of the universe. If we allow ourselves to get in the way, we defeat the purpose; which is to use the light of our search to illuminate the wall in all its beauty - and in all its flaws. And in so doing, we also gain a better understanding of the world around us.

There is namely one thing even more vital to science than intelligent methods or accurate data; and that is the sincere desire to search for the truth, whatever it may be.
However, the saddest aspect of life right now seems to be that science
gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom to use the knowledge.

To paraphrase M. King Hubbert, it appears as if our ignorance is not as vast as our failure to use what we already know."

One part of the conclusions of this report also says -
"Just offsetting the decline in existing production would require a new production capacity of something like 5 new Saudi-Arabia over the next 20 years."

Clearly, given the history of new Discoveries of Oil over the last 50 years or so, we are unlikely to find even ONE new Saudi Arabia, let alone one every four years, so production has no option, it is about to start heading South!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by muso on Sep 9th, 2010 at 9:47am

perceptions_now wrote on Sep 7th, 2010 at 1:19pm:
Like Oil & Coal, Nuclear is certainly a two edged sword! [/b]


I agree with you that Nuclear is a medium term solution. It will be a stop-gap measure to give us enough time to develop a renewable infrastructure.

The US has a very poor history of regulation in both industry and mining. That doesn't mean to say that it's impossible to mine Uranium in a professional manner. Other countries have succeeded (eg in Europe). The US has major stockpiles of waste because the governments over the years have allowed this to happen.

For example, I've worked very closely with Dupont in the past. Nowadays they try to be squeaky clean perhaps, but in the past they were grubs. They were the biggest polluters in the world - because they had a strong industry lobby and were allowed to get away with just about anything in the land of the free (to pollute).  Things have changed. Try pouring toxic waste down a disused underground coal mine today and see what happens.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 9th, 2010 at 11:25am

muso wrote on Sep 9th, 2010 at 9:47am:

perceptions_now wrote on Sep 7th, 2010 at 1:19pm:
Like Oil & Coal, Nuclear is certainly a two edged sword! [/b]


I agree with you that Nuclear is a medium term solution. It will be a stop-gap measure to give us enough time to develop a renewable infrastructure.

The US has a very poor history of regulation in both industry and mining. That doesn't mean to say that it's impossible to mine Uranium in a professional manner. Other countries have succeeded (eg in Europe). The US has major stockpiles of waste because the governments over the years have allowed this to happen.

For example, I've worked very closely with Dupont in the past. Nowadays they try to be squeaky clean perhaps, but in the past they were grubs. They were the biggest polluters in the world - because they had a strong industry lobby and were allowed to get away with just about anything in the land of the free (to pollute).  Things have changed. Try pouring toxic waste down a disused underground coal mine today and see what happens.


Yes, the USA has had, but also still has problems and not just in the Nuclear arena, but mining & industry generally.

Interestingly, there is a large push for less, not more regulation and for less, not more government involvement.

However, it seems Capitalists happily accept Socialist bailouts, where it concerns the Big end of town!

It is difficult to see a satisfactory resolution to the dilemma and that also applies to other nations, including Australia.

Personally, I would think it's a bit like food, all things in moderation, but some things are more vital than others, at certain times!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 9th, 2010 at 9:01pm
Peak Oil and Collapse of Everything?

As a follow up to my post earlier this week - The Collapse of Everything? - about the report from a think-tank inside the German military warning that shrinking global oil supplies will threaten the world's economic foundations and possibly lead to mass-scale upheaval within the next 15 to 30 years, the collapse of the industrial supply chain, and that "In the medium term the global economic system and every market-oriented national economy would collapse," here is more background in a 2007 report from the Energy Watch Group.

Why the US is occupying Iraq and Afghanistan and encircling Iran. Why Democrats and Republicans are not listening to the left and the antiwar movement.

Replacing oil video -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgVfHqq4GtA&feature=player_embedded

Peak Oil could trigger meltdown of society
By: Energy Watch Group
Published: Oct 23, 2007
According to a newly published global oil supply report to be presented by the Energy Watch Group at the Foreign Press Association in London, world oil production peaked in 2006. Production will start to decline at a rate of several percent per year. By 2020, and even more by 2030, global oil supply will be dramatically lower. This will create a supply gap which can hardly be closed by growing contributions from other fossil, nuclear or alternative energy sources in this time frame.

"The most alarming finding is the steep decline of the oil supply after peak", warns Jörg Schindler from the Energy Watch Group. This result, together with the timing of the peak, is obviously in sharp contrast to the projections by the International Energy Agency (IEA). "Since crude oil is the most important energy carrier at a global scale and since all kinds of transport rely heavily on oil, the future oil availability is of paramount importance as it entails completely different actions by politics, business and individuals.", says Schindler.

This cautious energy outlook corresponds with statements made by former US Defense Secretary and CIA Director, James Schlesinger, who said at a recent oil summit in Cork: "The battle is over, the oil peakists have won. Current US energy policy and the administration's oil strategy in Iraq and Iran are deluded."

However, until recently the International Energy Agency denied that a fundamental change of energy supply is likely to happen in the near or medium term future. Hans-Josef Fell MP, a prominent member of the German Parliament, is clear: "The message by the IEA, namely that business as usual will also be possible in future, sends a diffusing signal to the markets and blocks investments in already available renewable energy technologies.

Remaining world oil reserves are estimated to be 1,255 Gb (Giga barrel) according to the industry database HIS (2006). For the Energy Watch Group (EWG), however, there are sound reasons to modify these figures for some regions and key countries, leading to a corresponding EWG estimate of 854 Gb. This oil supply outlook does not rely primarily on reserve data which in the past have frequently turned out to be unreliable. Hence the EWG analysis is based primarily on production data which can be observed more easily and which are more reliable.

Peak oil is now. "The oil boom is over and will not return. All of us must get used to a different lifestyle.", said King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, the largest global oil producer. For quite some time, a hot debate has been going on regarding peak oil. Institutions close to the energy industry, like CERA, are engaging in a campaign trying to debunk peak oil as a "theory". However, the EWG report shows that peak oil is real. The world is at the beginning of a structural change of its economic system. This change will be triggered by a sharp decline of fossil fuel supplies and will influence almost all aspects of daily life. Climate change will also force mankind to change energy consumption patterns by significantly reducing the burning of fossil fuels.

Anticipated supply shortages could easily lead to disturbing scenes of mass unrest as witnessed in Burma this month. For government, industry and the wider public just muddling through is not an option anymore as this situation could spin out of control and turn into a meltdown of society.

"My experience of debating the peak oil issue with the oil industry, and trying to alert Whitehall to it, is that there is a culture of institutionalised denial in government and the energy industry. As the evidence of an early peak in production unfolds, this becomes increasingly impossible to understand", says Jeremy Leggett, the Solarcentury CEO and former member of the British Government's Renewables Advisory Board.
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Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 10th, 2010 at 6:03pm
Coal and Oil: The Dark Monarchs of Global Energy: Understanding Supply and Extraction Patterns and their Importance for Future Production

Introduction
Oil is the black blood of the earth which runs through the veins of the modern global energy system. Coal is the equally black flesh of the earth which makes up the spine of the worlds power grid. Together they account for over 60% of all energy annually used by mankind. In some senses, these two Dark Monarchs can be seen as the black soul of the modern society.

Combustion of these fuels releases energy in immense amounts and can drive a wide array of machines, tools and processes. Oil and coal can also be broken down and used as a feedstock in a wide range of chemical processes, providing everything from medicines to plastics. They bring wealth and political influence to those who control them. In essence, they are a manifestation of power in the truest sense of the word.

The dark saga begins
“The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth comes again.” – Robert Jordan

In other words one may state that “nothing lasts forever”, as countless bards and poets already have announced since the dawn of time.

Currently, the world is in an age that may be called the Hydrocarbon Age. Nearly all energy is derived from fossil fuels and they dominate the present world. How did this come to be? What events lead to this present dependence on fossil energy? How did the two Dark Monarchs, coal and oil, rise to power?

The Chinese philosopher Confucius once said the following:
“Study the past to define the future”

Taming the dark flames of coal
The story of the dark twins, oil and coal, and their role in the present actually begins many hundreds of years ago, with the rise of mechanization and industry. It is from here the dark saga of the present society’s dependence on fossil energy, and the issue of peak oil and fossil fuel depletion, begins.

The dawn of the Industrial Revolution marked a most important turning point in human history. Almost every aspect of daily life was eventually influenced in some way. The most important event is undeniably the appearance of steam engines and the taming of the dark flames of coal.

The genesis of mechanization
The industrialized countries had previously been relying on manual labour, draft-animals or even slaves to power their economies and manufacturing. New innovations, brought to the world by an increasing number of engineers and scientists, made it increasingly possible to replace man and animal, with machines.

Thomas Newcomen, James Watt and other steam-power pioneers all subsequently developed steam engines to drive pump water out of mines.

The introduction of efficient steam engines, thanks to James Watt and other engineers, also played an important role in the development of the railroad, steam powered ships and machines. The use of steam-powered machinery demanded energy to feed the boilers. At first, this was chiefly done through the use of firewood. However, the demand soon outpaced the available production of wood fuels. Deforestation became a problem and firewood prices increased. This made it possible for a new fuel to emerge as main provider of energy, namely coal. Coal was commonly cheaper and much more efficient than wood fuels in most steam engines.

In hollow halls beneath the fells
Coal mining was still predominantly quite primitive at the beginning of the Industrial Revolution. At first, most mining were done from shallow pits or holes. In some places, coal was scraped from natural outcroppings. Increasing demand forced miners and producers to venture deeper into the ground and to develop more advanced mining methods.

Central and Northern Britain contained an abundance of coal that helped to make the prosperity of Lancashire, Yorkshire, and South Wales prior to 1900. Similar development occurred in Pennsylvania in the USA and in the Ruhr-area in Germany. In the US, coal production doubled every tenth year until 1900.

Heavy industry, various stationary steam engines, railroads and steamboats became major consumers and coal production soared (VIII). By the beginning of 20th century, coal was the dominant energy source for mankind.

Crafting a dawn of steel
The modern era in steel-making began with the introduction of Henry Bessemer’s new process in 1858. The Bessemer process used pig iron as a raw material and could deliver steel in large quantities.

In 1865, the French engineer Pierre-Emile Martin bought a license to use Siemens innovation and applied it to steel making. This gave birth to the Siemens-Martin process. The most interesting property of this process is that it allows rapid production of large quantities of basic steel as well as smelting and refining of scrap metal.

The new steelmaking technologies greatly changed the availability of durable materials for society. The availability of cheap steel now allowed the construction of large bridges and enabled the production of railroads, skyscrapers, and large ships. The dawn of steel was undeniably an important event for the whole world.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 10th, 2010 at 6:13pm
Coal and Oil: The Dark Monarchs of Global Energy: Understanding Supply and Extraction Patterns and their Importance for Future Production (Cont)

Intellectual sprouts from the emerging industry
Besides a dramatic increase in production capacity, new methods of transportation and manufacturing, the industrial revolution also gave birth to new intellectual paradigms. The notions of Capitalism, Marxism and Romanticism all have their origin from the social turnovers that occurred in the wake of the industrialization. Needless to say, these concepts have been major driving forces in history and continue to be vital political ideas even in the present day.

These ideas later served a role in the formation of modern environmentalist movements and their critical view on the present “dark satanic mills” of globalized industrialization.

By mid 1850s coal had become a cornerstone in every industrialized country. The tamed flames of coal were used to produce metal and propelled the world into the next stage of expansion as the coal-based economies reached new heights of prosperity and industrial output.

The radiance of a rising twin monarchy

Outside the turmoil of the socioeconomic sphere, development of internal combustion engines and electricity generation marked a new phase in the industrial expansion and sowed the seeds of modern society. Besides the rise of steel and coal many new technologies, processes, materials and substances were introduced. The ascension of a new dark monarch, namely oil, also begins at this time.

Major breakthroughs were made in the chemical, electrical, metallurgical, and mechanical industries. Rapid transport of mail by steam-powered ships or railroads, telegraphs and the subsequent development of radio and telephone improved communications worldwide. Balloons, air ships and later on the development of aeroplanes also helped to transport ideas, goods and people all over the world faster than ever before.

Large scale production of cement, explosives, solvents, agrochemicals, petrochemicals and other basic chemical products flooded the market with vital ingredients and components for consumer goods. Agricultural improvements lead to better yields and more available grain and edibles. Mechanical refrigeration, canning and other food preservation techniques also allowed better handling of groceries.
The population saw major improvement in nutrition and health due to the new technologies that followed the wake of the industrial revolution.
The radiance of the rising twin monarchy of coal and oil in the 19th century marked a new phase for mankind.
Foreclose of a dream
The modern oil era began in Oil Creek in Pennsylvania with the boreholes successfully sunk by Colonel Drake. A pioneering epoch followed and many competitors and producers appeared, all trying to grab a share of the black gold that was erupting from the ground. The events that occurred in Pennsylvania also marked the rise of certain powerful ideas, individuals, important companies and remarkable products.

A long list of liniments, waxes and lubricants had also been made from whale oil prior to the discovery of new petroleum refining methods. Vaseline was patented in 1872. Other petroleum products also started to seep into medicine, hygiene and cosmetic products.

Merely 25 years old in 1865, Rockefeller formed a partnership with a refinery owner in Cleveland. By 1880s, Standard Oil controlled nearly all of the American refining capacity
John D. Rockefeller had become among the richest men in the US.

The American oil production simply accounted for the largest share of the world output and came to shape first stages of global rise of oil. For example, Standard Oil alone topped at over 90% of the world refining capacity, before slowly declining to 80% by the end of the 19th century.

Standard Oil of New Jersey was later renamed Exxon. Standard Oil of New York came to merge with another company and form Mobil. Today these companies have merged together and formed ExxonMobil. Standard Oil of California was eventually renamed to Chevron. Standard Oil of Indiana changed name to Amoco (American Oil Company) and has today become a part of British Petroleum (BP). Another offshoot was called Continental Oil Company or Conoco and has today merged into ConocoPhillips.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 10th, 2010 at 6:23pm
Coal and Oil: The Dark Monarchs of Global Energy: Understanding Supply and Extraction Patterns and their Importance for Future Production (Cont)

The march of the electrons
The kerosene barons of late 19th century would eventually find themselves surpassed by a new invention that came to replace flame-based illumination systems.
In late 1870s, Thomas A. Edison developed and began marketing the incandescent light bulb. This new device produced even light, burned longer and brighter than oil or kerosene, and was much safer than flame-based lights. As the country was electrified, whale oil and kerosene were both driven from the illumination market.

This electrification could have been a problem for the young petroleum industry, but it was saved by the successful commercialization of the automobile. As the 20th century dawned, electric capacity expanded rapidly while continuous innovation improved the electric system.

Hydroelectric plants, such as the Hoover Dam from 1930s, became vital steps in the electrification of the society. Cheap and plentiful electricity were now possible.

Thanks to the dance of the electrons coal was still the supreme ruler of the world’s energy system, even though oil started to appear as a more and more promising branch of the hydrocarbon tree. The world would never be the same after legions of marching electrons was tamed by the dark flames of fossil fuels.

Oil outshines coal through a reign of blood
The dawn of the 20th century marked a definite turn for mankind and the birth of modern society as it is known today.
The growing need for electric power in the wake of the worldwide electrification provided new uses for fuel oil in various power plants. In addition, fuels for internal combustion engines opened many new doors for petroleum utilization. Petroleum refining and the multitude of petrochemicals that could be obtained became increasing important for the emerging chemical industries. Consequently both oil demand and production soared.

The higher energy content per volume unit of oil had resulted in the conversion from coal-burning to oil-burning on a few ships prior to the First World War.

The first worldwide waves of blood and oil
The First World War broke out in August 1914. Oil came to play an important role in the entire war and securing access to oil became vital for the war strategies.
Gasoline-consuming aeroplanes made reconnaissance and engaged in early bombing raids. Diesel-powered submarines were operational and motorized lines of supply became increasingly important. Introduction of tanks, aeroplanes and other mechanized or motorized equipment had increased the mobility of armies. Meanwhile, new explosives and poison gases unleashed the destructive fury of the petrochemicals.

Automobiles and nationalism rising
The use of automobiles for personal transport continued to boom in both USA and Europe. With a car, one could literally drive wherever and whenever one wanted to. Cars soon took on a larger and larger role in society and became an integral part of city planning.
The Great Depression of the 1930s naturally reduced the speed of development for some time. However, this decade also saw major oil discoveries in California. The largest oil boom ever seen in the USA began with the discovery of the supergiant East Texas field in 1930.

The economic troubles and remaining tensions from the First World War resulted in increasing nationalism in many countries.

Petroleum troubles brewing

In 1920s, there was a fear of oil shortage in the USA. During the war, the USA had been overproducing to supply its allies and discoveries in the late 1910s had been disappointing.
USGS even expressed fear that the nation’s petroleum resources would soon prove inadequate to meet the needs of the industry. This and increasing competition made US oil companies set their aim on primarily the Middle East and Venezuela.

New oil discoveries were later made in Mesopotamia, Saudi-Arabia, Kuwait and other Middle-East countries. The discovery of the Kirkuk and Greater Burgan fields were among the largest ones ever made.

The main lesson the Japanese military had taken home from World War I was that a country cut off from raw materials was bound to lose in a military contest. Japan conquered Manchuria in 1931, and later invaded China in 1937. The new occupied areas yielded vast quantities of food, coal and iron ore, but very little petroleum.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 10th, 2010 at 7:32pm
Coal and Oil: The Dark Monarchs of Global Energy: Understanding Supply and Extraction Patterns and their Importance for Future Production (Cont)

The Second World War
Increasing political tensions between European countries appeared and finally the Second World War broke out in 1939. In contrast to the previous world war, oil became a corner stone in both planning and strategy during the Second World War.

Germany profoundly relied on the newly developed Blitzkrieg strategy, i.e. short battles with mechanized forces that would lead to victory before petroleum supply problems could develop. The German need for petroleum was one of the motives behind the campaign in North Africa and the invasion of the Soviets in 1941. However, operations in Africa failed to gain access to the Middle Eastern oilfields and at the same time the German armies got stuck in Stalingrad, partly due to a lack of oil supplies.

The lack of oil and fuel hampered the German military activities after 1943 and may be seen as a crucial factor in their concluding defeat. Similar problems arose for Japan, as the tides of war shifted and they were pushed back from the oil rich areas earlier conquered.

The end of the Second World War meant the conclusion of a bloody epoch filled with political tensions and military conflicts. During this bloody reign, oil also managed to prove itself better than coal resulting in a favourable view of petroleum from planners and politicians. The aftermath of the Second World War ensured that the world would embark on a ship sailing the dark oceans of oil, cruising inexorably toward the present.

Dark rivers flowing forth
American soil had been virtually untouched by wartime destruction. The end of the Second World War started the golden era of American capitalism.

The green revolution in agriculture and the utilization of high yield agricultural techniques based on synthetic fertilizers and high energy use took food output to record levels. Following the war and spanning 1946 to 1964, a baby boom occurred in the USA. Domestic oil production could not possibly match growing demand and the USA had to become a net oil importer.
Exporting the shackles of foreign oil dependence
In 1947, a war torn Europe suffered from a shortage of workers and faced an impending energy crisis due to a shortage of coal. Europe’s dire need of oil coincided with the development of the large Middle East oilfields.

Rising tensions between the Western countries and the communist nations in East led to an 'Iron Curtain' being drawn between the two competing blocks and marked the start of the Cold War. The discovery of the supergiant Romashkino oilfield helped fuel Soviet expansionism. Later on, Western Siberia was explored and found to contain vast amounts of oil and natural gas. By the end of 1980s, Western Siberia alone contributed to 14% of world oil production and was an even match for Saudi-Arabia.

The birth of OPEC
Increasing awareness about the value of oil in many exporting countries, in particular the Middle East, led to ideas about taking more control over oil production.

In 1959, during the Arab Oil Congress in Egypt representatives from Saudi-Arabia and Venezuela met. They shared the vision that coordination was necessary to control the price level and guarantee income for their nations. A new meeting with representatives from Kuwait, Iran and Iraq took place in 1960 and resulted in the establishment of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC).
Together the five founding members of OPEC controlled more than 80% of the exported oil.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 10th, 2010 at 7:38pm
Coal and Oil: The Dark Monarchs of Global Energy: Understanding Supply and Extraction Patterns and their Importance for Future Production (Cont)

A troublesome shift of thrones

In mid 1960s, oil became the world’s largest energy source in absolute terms after nearly 100 years with about 7% annual growth. Old King Coal finally had to step down from the throne and leave it to Oil as the new supreme sovereign of the global energy system.

Political tensions surrounding Israel resulted in the six-day war in 1967. Continued disagreement around Israel and the Arab-Israeli tensions lead to a new war in 1973.

OPEC declared an oil embargo "in response to theU.S. decision to re-supply the Israeli military". The embargo had immediate effect and OPEC forced the oil companies to increase payments drastically. Consequently, the price of oil had quadrupled by 1974 to nearly US$12 per barrel.

To make matters worse, the 1970s were also the time when many OPEC members completely nationalized their oil industries, such as Kuwait in 1975 or Venezuela in 1976.
Control over oil had definitively shifted from the major oil companies to the producing countries and OPEC.  

Meanwhile, domestic oil production in the USA reached a maximum in 1970 and started to decline, as had been predicted by Hubbert (1956).

Oil prices continued to be high during the entire decade. A second oil crisis occurred in 1979 in the wake of the Iranian Revolution when ayatollah Khomeini became the new leader. This event resulted in a severe disruption of the Iranian oil sector with drastic reductions of production capacity and suspended export.

Everything culminated with the Iraqi invasion of Iran, which nearly stopped Iranian oil production completely and severely hampered Iraqi production as well.

These two oil crises had a profound influence on both the USA and Europe as they faced both real and perceived shortages of oil. Nuclear energy and new energy sources were developed as the awareness of the oil dependence seeped into public awareness. The growth of oil consumption slowed, and was even reversed for a period. Economic growth also stagnated as oil prices climbed.

Although these two major oil crises did have significant repercussions, they eventually receded and the dark rivers continued to flow with seemingly equal strength once again. Or were these events a small prelude to an even bigger challenge?

Threading the path to the present
As the situation slowly calmed down after 1980, prices would eventually return to their previous low levels. This was an outcome of slowing industrial economies and a stabilization of supply and demand.

Two opposing views emerged, where one stated that the oil glut was temporary and the other that excess supply was permanent.

Recent production and price peaks
The new millennium unveiled the peaking of several countries around the year 2000, including Mexico, Australia, India, Yemen, and even the OPEC member Indonesia.

Meanwhile, global oil consumption continued to increase.

Oil production in the North Sea is another example of how the dark flows started to diminish and were unable to keep pace with rising demand. The UK peaked in 1999, Norway in 2001 and Denmark in 2004.

From mid 2004, the entire world oil production reached a plateau as it became increasing difficult to offset the decline in existing production with new additions. Oil prices started to rise and reached an all time high of nearly 150 dollars/barrel in July 2008. However, both the entire world economy and the oil price collapsed in the aftermath as the world plunged into financial turmoil. The fuel price spike of 2008 may have played a considerable role in the economic crisis.

While more and more of the conventional oil producers reached the onset of decline in the last 20 years, producers also turned their attention to unconventional hydrocarbons in their attempts to keep the dark rivers flowing.

Canadian tar sands, heavy oils, or deepwater regions rose in importance after the 1980s and are currently vital in planning.

The increasing challenge of sustaining continued growth of oil extraction recently became even more apparent, when a deepwater drilling rig in the Gulf of Mexico triggered the largest environmental disaster in the US history in an attempt to locate new oilfields for the petroleum-craving world.

Concerns about the anthropogenic impact on global climate became an increasingly important factor for planners and policy makers. The environmental issues relating to fossil fuels made it increasingly clear that the negative impacts from continued utilization were a challenge.

In the background of all this, coal became the fastest growing energy source of all. This is chiefly powered by the rise of China and India and their coal-powered economies.


Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 10th, 2010 at 8:21pm
Coal and Oil: The Dark Monarchs of Global Energy: Understanding Supply and Extraction Patterns and their Importance for Future Production (Cont)

The Peak Oil debate
The oil price hike has been blamed on speculation by some, while others have pointed to market fundamentals and the imbalance between supply and demand.

The exact cause of this price rally is probably hard to determine and likely a result of many factors.


The academic dispute about the longevity of fossil fuel supply, the future production trajectories, and how the society would be affected continues to rage even today. Needless to say, the exhaustion of many petroleum regions and the declining production in many key producers is an observed fact of reality.

A recent review of over 500 studies by the UK Energy Research Centre concluded that a peak in conventional oil production before 2030 appears likely and there is a significant risk of a peak before 2020.

Unveiling the black heart of everything
There are many factors, reasons and explanations for all that happened during the industrial revolution. However, natural science dictates that the physical factors should be found and considered.

What physical factor can be found that ties all those solitary threads together in the mighty weave that forms the modern world? I would argue that energy is that factor. In physics, energy is usually defined as the capacity of a physical system to perform work, whether the work is useful or extraneous for society. Einstein (1905) even showed the equivalence between energy and mass, implying that everything in the universe is made from energy in various forms. Naturally, it follows that energy influences everything and
cannot be substituted for other resources.

Human civilization and even life itself are processes built around energy exploitation of various forms.

Societies are built around the supply of energy resources, where the most fundamental energy source is food and the physical labour it can be converted into. More advanced societies may have domesticated animals to provide more power than a human can conveniently provide. Technology and human ingenuity allows the creation of machines, i.e. replacing human labour with work done by mechanized devices.

Of all available natural resources, none are as important as energy.
In fact, energy has been described as the ultimate resource by many studies. Furthermore, energy is intimately linked to economic growth and development. Studies have found that energy consumption has a significant positive long run impact on economic growth  and connections between energy and real output.

Many people think that it is money that makes the world go round, when in reality it is a cheap and abundant supply of largely oil-based energy (Campbell, 2006). The industrial revolution, and all the things it brought, is little more than a tale of mankind's taming of the dark flames of fossil fuels.


A sequel of decay
In some sense, the world is building its present strength through depletion of fossil energy resources. Depletion of the available coal and oil endowment is a central factor in the longevity of their supply for human needs.

The rise of coal and oil will be followed by a sequel of decay where their dominance will diminish and eventually be replaced by something else as the available volumes become more and more exhausted.

The black heart of everything in society is the dependence of fossil fuels. However, this also brings about another problem. Since fossil fuels dominate the existing energy system, they will have to power any possible shift to renewable or other energy sources. Understanding how the future unfolds is vital for strategic decisions and planning.


Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 10th, 2010 at 8:28pm
Coal and Oil: The Dark Monarchs of Global Energy: Understanding Supply and Extraction Patterns and their Importance for Future Production (Cont)

Production patterns of finite resources?
The peak in the US, Indonesian, and the UK oil production, North Sea as well as many individual giant oilfields shows that peaking and the arrival of a maximum oil production also are well established phenomena in history.

The term “finite resource” is frequently used but few people seem to ponder what it actually means. When it comes to natural resources, one can argue that production limits are determined by the extraction and creation rates. If extraction of a resource is faster than replenishment rate the resource will be “finite” in the sense that it will eventually be exhausted or depleted.

For example, uranium is a finite resource since it is originates from the ashes of supernovas, requiring many millions or billions of years to accumulate commercially interesting concentrations.


The case of whaling in 19th century is an excellent illustration of a case where a resource has been extracted at a much faster rate than it could be replaced, making it finite. In a similar way, a forest can be “renewable” if the annual outtake is no more than the annual growth.

Bardi (2005) has shown that bell shaped behaviour are typical for fossil fuel and mineral extraction, but the curve is not necessarily symmetric. However, the appearance of one or several production peaks is natural and omnipresent.

Natural resources are vital in supporting the continued well-being of the world’s population. Such physical resource limitations, primarily the case of finite resources and as fossil fuels, affect the general growth pattern.

Approaching the problem

EROEI = Usable Energy Acquired
               Energy Expended
               
Coal and oil production require energy input to power machines, workers and other parts of the extraction process.
For example, coal layers will at some point become too thin, located too deep, or containing too much non-combustible material to repay the energy investment needed for recovery of the coal. Likewise, oil production will become increasingly challenging.
Required energy investment is an as an underlying parameter that will be dominate over all other factors.
Hubbert (1982) wrote:
“There is a different and more fundamental cost that is independent of the monetary price. That is the energy cost of exploration and production. So long as oil is used as a source of energy, when the energy cost of recovering a barrel of oil becomes greater than the energy content of the oil, production will cease no matter what the monetary price may be”.

The energy return will put a limit on certain deposits and at some point it is no longer feasible to extract coal or oil as energy sources.

The concept of depletion
Today, over 80% of the world’s energy is derived from fossil fuels (IEA, 2010).

However, there have been a number of studies questioning the longevity of the world’s fossil fuel endowment and suggesting that extraction rates would one day reach a maximum and then begin to decline. The concept of resource depletion and exhaustion of the amounts available for production is by no means a new idea. It has been used by many scientists, mostly from the field of natural science, to highlight the intrinsic limitations in nature and the unsustainable exploitation of certain natural resources.

More recently, Rotty (1979) stated that one should be able to make a more accurate analysis than simply projecting continued exponential growth in attempting to estimate the energy supply and demand of the future.

However, perpetual growth is often held as a pious belief and fundamental assumption for certain economists. Naturally, perpetual growth cannot be used as an underlying assumption for non-renewable energy sources, such as fossil fuels. Even former technological and economic optimists are now seeing the end of an era with exponential growth. This is hardly surprising, given the underlying arithmetic properties of growth and how quickly unreasonable values are reached for resource production and consumption even for modest growth rates (Bartlett, 1993; 1999; 2004).

Today, hundreds of scientific articles and studies have been performed regarding peak oil and the depletion of other fossil fuels. Combined with the environmental concerns and the suggested need to reduce greenhouse gas emissions from fossil fuel use, it is only reasonable to assume that fossil fuels will have a smaller place in the future global energy supply mix.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 10th, 2010 at 8:34pm
Coal and Oil: The Dark Monarchs of Global Energy: Understanding Supply and Extraction Patterns and their Importance for Future Production (Cont)

Depletion-driven production decline in oilfields
After the discovery well, an appraisal well is drilled to determine the development potential of the reservoir. Further development follows and the first oil production marks the beginning of the build-up phase. Later the field enters a plateau phase, where the full installed extraction capacity is used, before finally arriving at the onset of decline, which ends in abandonment once the economical limit is reached.
For many fields, especially smaller ones, the plateau phase can be very short and resemble more a sharp peak, while large fields can remain at the plateau production level for several decades.

In the primary recovery stage, oil is allowed to flow out of the wells under its own pressure with nothing reinjected into the reservoir. The situation is analogous to the emptying of a pressure bottle by opening a valve. Under such circumstances the downhole pressure (the fluid pressure at the entry to a well pipe drops as oil is produced.

In oilfields of significant size, secondary recovery tends to overshadow the primary recovery stage. Water or other fluids are injected to maintain the reservoir pressure, giving a fairly constant downhole pressure.

As the reservoir depletes, the well will eventually produce too much water to be economically viable, despite the fact that reservoir pressure might still be high. The ratio of water compared to the volume of total liquids produced is referred to as water cut. In mature fields the water cut can reach very high levels, over 80-90%.
It was found that the production peak occurs when around 50% of the recoverable oil had been extracted.

Hubbert’s original approach
Resting on the arithmetic of growth, Hubbert (1956) noted that the growth rates of world coal production were 4.3%, with a production doubling every 16 years. For oil, Hubbert (1956) saw a world oil production growth of 7%, implying a doubling every 10 years.

How many periods of doubling can be sustained before production rates would reach astronomical magnitudes? Every time a growing quantity doubles, it takes more than the  total use in all the preceding growth. No finite resource can sustain doubling for longer than a brief period of time.

Combining this framework with good estimates of the recoverable resources allowed Hubbert (1956) to accurately predict the peak in US oil production.

General growth curve methods
More generally, all growth in the physical reality must be bounded or at least subjected to limitations affecting growth rates, making growth slow down over time. This is well-known in many biological systems, where an organism may grow fast in juvenile stage, but then growth slows down with maturity.

Verhulst reasoned that, any population subject to growth would ultimately reach a saturation level (usually described as the carrying capacity) and as a characteristic of the environment that forms a numerical upper bound on the growth process.

The limiting factor lies rather in the growth process itself, in form of the increasing costs required for continued expansion. The upper limit may be high, virtually non-existent, but the steps on the development ladder are becoming more and more challenging to take, thus slowing down the growth process.

Prey-predator models
This simple model deals with two main variables, resources and capital (i.e. prey and predators). The amount of available resource may be defined as the resource stock, while the amount of economic and energetic resources (i.e. equipment, land, knowledge, human work etc.) being utilized in the exploitation can be called the capital stock.

A feedback relationship between two variables describes the production or extraction of the resources.

This is plausible as the more equipment (e.g. oil rigs or coal mining machines) is available, the more resources can be extracted or produced. The income from the extraction process can be used to construct more capital and equipment. On the other hand, there must be something to extract and logic dictates that oil rigs and coal mining equipment is not constructed unless there are available resources. This is simply the core of the feedback mechanism.

Implicitly, this assumption also implies that resources are “graded” and that the “easy” resources will be exploited first. Simply, it does not make any sense for producers to develop the most expensive formations first and save the easy ones for later.

Normally the economic limitations will prevent production long before the ultimate thermodynamic limits will kick in and prevent coal or any other energy resource from being an energy source once the net energy return (EROEI) become too low.

If resources and capital is measured in energy terms, the costs will be related to the EROEI-parameter.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 10th, 2010 at 8:40pm
Coal and Oil: The Dark Monarchs of Global Energy: Understanding Supply and Extraction Patterns and their Importance for Future Production (Cont)

Concluding remarks

General findings

The present dominance of giant oilfields and their disappointing discovery trend, along with the relatively rapid decline rates together indicate that there are significant challenges for future oil production. Just offsetting the decline in existing production would require a new production capacity of something like 5 new Saudi-Arabia over the next 20 years.

UKERC (2009) summarized and evaluated many hundreds of studies on future oil supply and concluded that there is a significant risk that the world will experience a relatively imminent production peak.

Neither should coal be seen as an everlasting pillar in the global energy system. On a global scale, both coal reserves and production are focused in a few countries.

This essentially mimics the dominance of giant oilfields seen with petroleum. Depletion rate behaviour also tends to be similar to the patterns observed for oil, indicating that this is something to investigate further as a seemingly viable general approach to resource depletion problems.

Regarding future production of coal, the modelling indicates that production limitations may occur sooner than many anticipate. It appears that coal-derived fuels will be unable to bridge the gap due to diminishing oil supply.

Connection to energy security
The present dominance and dependence on coal and oil along with natural gas will also make the issue of resource depletion strongly connected to energy security.
Globalization has been fuelled by cheap and abundant energy, traded as a commodity in a free market. Increasing conflict over scarce energy would undermine the very foundations of the world-wide social, economic, and political normalization processes that have been observed over the past few centuries.

The Lloyd's insurance market and the highly regarded Royal Institute of International Affairs (often better known as Chatham House) recently said that business is underestimating the catastrophic consequences of declining oil supply (Lloyds, 2010). An industry taskforce on peak oil and energy security, consisting of six UK companies, also concluded that peak oil was an urgent, clear, and present challenge (ITPOES, 2008; 2010). The US military also foresee a massive oil crunch is inevitable without massive expansion of production and refining capacity (JOE, 2010). By 2012, JOE (2010) claims that surplus oil production capacity could entirely disappear, and as early as
2015, the shortfall in oil output could reach nearly 10 Mb/d.

The depletion of North Sea oil (I, V) will greatly reduce European production capacity. In addition, countries previously dependent on Norwegian or Danish oil will be forced to rely on other suppliers that are generally less stable and located further away. OPEC will inherently rise in importance due to the fact that most of the worlds remaining oil is located within the Arab world (BP, 2010).

The US military also points out that the turmoil from the Great Depression in the 1930s spawned a number of totalitarian regimes that sought economic prosperity for their nations by ruthless conquest (JOE, 2010). Limited availability of fossil fuels will likely have huge effects on social and economic systems, no matter when the actual peak arrives (Czúcz et al.2010).

Curtis (2009) also concluded that increased oil prices and decreasing petroleum supply would alter trade flows and their geography. Consequently, proper understanding of how, when and where resource depletion will affect the world is essential for tackling these kind of issues and maintaining a working economy, peace, and security.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 10th, 2010 at 8:54pm
Coal and Oil: The Dark Monarchs of Global Energy: Understanding Supply and Extraction Patterns and their Importance for Future Production (Cont)

Connection to anthropogenic climate change

Nearly 60% of the man-made emissions originate from CO2 from fossil fuel use, while the remainder derives from mostly deforestation and agriculture (Höök et al., 2010b).

Despite the obvious relevance of peak oil to future anthropogenic emissions it has received little attention in the climate change debate (Kharecha and Hansen, 2008), and neither has depletion of other resources been discussed, especially in this context. In fact, there is a significant disagreement between the future fossil fuel production scenarios used by the IPCC and studies on resource depletion.

Human activities strongly affect global ecological changes, and social regime shifts definitively will induce ecological alteration. Therefore, depletion of fossil fuels should be taken seriously and must definitively be integrated into anthropogenic climate change studies and environmental policies.


Connection to sustainability
Given the fundamental importance of energy, it is essential for society to find lasting and practical energy sources. Without energy, mankind would not be able to achieve anything. The present global energy system is dominated by fossil fuels, chiefly oil and coal. However, an often forgotten fundamental truth is that a transition to new energy sources also requires energy.

The effect this has on fossil fuel reserves will depend largely on the size and speed of this transition, since the fossil fuel energy used will be additional to that already in use to maintain the present system. If changes to climate necessitate a shift to alternative and/or renewable energy within the next decade, this shift would not only hasten depletion of fossil fuels, but could also hasten climate change.

Continued oil dependence is environmentally, economically and socially unsustainable (IEA, 2008). Likewise, the increasing impact from coal mining puts a strain on both local and global systems.


Perhaps what is needed is to accept the eventual depletion of oil sooner or later and to develop alternative energy while limiting populations and their excessive material aspirations to realize sustainable development of society. If mankind does not adopt that path through our own planning, it will inevitably be imposed upon us by nature, probably in a much less desirable way.

The present conviction that economic growth can be supported indefinitely by a finite earth is deeply rooted and resembles religious belief (Lloyd, 2009). Observations and studies based on the naturalistic approach to science obviously disagree with certain visions of the future. Accepting reality is and should be vital for mankind. This is perhaps best captured in a quotation from Carl Sagan about the geocentric model.
“When Kepler found his long-cherished belief did not agree with the most precise observation, he accepted the uncomfortable fact. He preferred the hard truth to his dearest illusions; that is the heart of science.”


Final notes
If we take a lamp and shine it toward the wall, a bright spot will appear on the wall. If the lamp is the search for truth and for understanding, one should not assume that the light on the wall is the truth as too many often do.

Similarly, someone who does not search, who does not bring a lantern with him, sees nothing. For what we perceive as truth, is the by-product of our own search.

Sometimes we stand in front of the light and assume that we are the center of the universe. If we allow ourselves to get in the way, we defeat the purpose; which is to use the light of our search to illuminate the wall in all its beauty - and in all its flaws.

However, the saddest aspect of life right now seems to be that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom to use the knowledge.
To paraphrase M. King Hubbert, it appears as if our ignorance is not as vast as our failure to use what we already know.
Link to the FULLTEXT01 is at the bottom of the following page-
http://uu.diva-portal.org/smash/record.jsf?pid=diva2:343046
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The article speaks for itself, my apology, in advance, if I butchered anything.

The article was 100 pages long and I picked out the main issues, trying to get it as short as possible, to make it readable!

That said, the article does put a good case and I look forward to comments from those who agree & those who do not agree, with it's concepts!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by lerche007 on Sep 12th, 2010 at 6:03pm
I has to ponder perceptions what did mankind do before oil?

Without oil? OMG will we die? Wood stoves and candle light? Horses ploughing fields?, Horses and carts for transportation?No heavy industries,no but more intense human input,harder labor!

At lest we wont have deaths on the roads,air we can breathe,Trees grown everywhere for the basics and much more!!!!

But I would say as the oil becomes scarce and the price of the stuff becomes so dear,will  then the alternates will find their markets.


Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 12th, 2010 at 8:32pm

lerche007 wrote on Sep 12th, 2010 at 6:03pm:
I has to ponder perceptions what did mankind do before oil?

Without oil? OMG will we die? Wood stoves and candle light? Horses ploughing fields?, Horses and carts for transportation?No heavy industries,no but more intense human input,harder labor!

At lest we wont have deaths on the roads,air we can breathe,Trees grown everywhere for the basics and much more!!!!

But I would say as the oil becomes scarce and the price of the stuff becomes so dear,will  then the alternates will find their markets.



Well prior to Oil, we had Coal, Kerosene, Whale Oil, Wind, Wood & probably a few others.

Of course, there is also Nuclear, Solar, Wind, Geo-thermal & a few others, since Oil.

Problem is, what can be used now, to sustain 7 Billion +, in the manner that OZ, the USA & Europe are accustomed to, on a long term basis?

And, I suggest the answer is, it can not be done!

So, the next question is what can we/the planet support, on a long term basis, with what we can make available?

Therein lays a $64 Trillion question!  

Btw, the stuff (Oil) has already become so dear, it went from $10 a barrel, to nearly $150 a barrel in the space of 8 years and I still don't see the alternatives rushing the markets in volumes anywhere near enough to supply 7 Billion people.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 13th, 2010 at 11:59am
PEAK OIL: How it will change your life.
Richard Heinberg: Documentary regarding the dwindeling supplies of oil and the rising demand for it.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2141508903056009420#

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 13th, 2010 at 5:43pm
Peak Everything

In titling this book “Peak Everything,” I was suggesting that humanity has achieved an unsustainable pinnacle of population size and consumption rates, and that the road ahead will be mostly downhill—at least for the next few decades, until our species has learned to live within Earth’s resource limits.

I argued that the industrial expansion of the past century or two was mainly due to our accelerating use of the concentrated energies of cheap fossil fuels; and that as oil, coal, and natural gas cease to be cheap and abundant, economic growth will phase into contraction. I further pointed out that world oil production was at, or very nearly at its peak, and that the imminent decline in extraction rates will be decisive, because global transport is nearly all oil-dependent, and there is currently no adequate substitute for petroleum.

Finally, I noted that the shift from growth to contraction will impact every aspect of human existence—financial systems, food systems, global trade—at both the macro and micro levels, threatening even our personal psychological coping mechanisms.

Of course it is simplistic to argue that everything has peaked (though Peak Everything makes for a better book title than “Some Things Peaking Now, Most Others Soon”). Perhaps the most glaring exception is human population, which continues to grow and is virtually certain to pass the seven billion mark within the next couple of years.

Here’s another non-peak: China’s economy is still growing rapidly, at the astonishing rate of 8 to 10 percent per year. That means it is more than doubling in size every ten years. Indeed, China consumes more than twice as much coal as it did a decade ago—the same with iron ore and oil. That nation now has four times as many highways as it did, and almost five times as many cars. How long this can go on is anyone’s guess. But surely not many more doublings in consumption rates can occur before China has used up its key resources.

For what it’s worth, my forecast is for China’s continuing boom to be very short-lived. As I argued in my recent book Blackout, there are hard limits to China’s coal supplies (the world as a whole will experience peak coal consumption within the next two decades, but China will get there sooner than most other countries because of its extraordinary consumption rate—currently three times that of the U.S.). Since China has no viable short-term alternatives to coal to fuel its industrial machine, by 2020 or so (and possibly much sooner) that country will have joined the rest of the world in a process of economic contraction that will continue until levels of consumption can be maintained by renewable resources harvested at sustainable rates.

World population growth may likewise continue for a shorter period than is commonly believed, if global food production and economic activity peak soon in response to declining energy availability.


In short, the world has changed in a fundamental way in the past three years, and the reverberations will continue for decades to come. Indeed, we have just seen the beginning of an overwhelming transformation of life as we’ve known it.

Oil Spike Triggers Economic Crisis

It is still unclear whether world oil extraction rates have reached their absolute maximum level. As of this writing, the record year for world crude oil production was 2005, and the record month was July 2008.

The 2005 to 2008 leveling-off of extraction rates occurred in the context of steadily rising oil prices; indeed, in July 2008 oil prices spiked 50 percent higher than the previous inflation-adjusted record, set in the 1970s. As a result of that price spike, the global airline industry went into a tailspin and the auto industry crashed and burned.

The oil situation is dire enough that one might assume it would be dominating headlines daily. Yet in fact it garners little attention. That’s because the world’s ongoing and worsening oil crisis has been obscured by a more dramatic and obvious financial catastrophe. As we all know only too well, Wall Street banks—which had spent the past couple of decades giddily building themselves a quadrillion-dollar house of cards—went into a free-fall swoon in the latter half of 2008 (right after the oil price spike), only to be temporarily rescued with trillions of dollars of government bailouts and guarantees.

It was a spine-tingling show—and would have amounted to months of fine entertainment, had it not been for the fact that millions of jobs, thousands of small businesses, and the economies of several sovereign nations also came tumbling down, and there just weren’t enough trillions available to rescue all of them (it obviously pays to be “too big to fail” and to have friends in high places).

While the oil price run-up was hardly the sole cause of the ongoing world economic crisis, it has effectively imposed a limit to any possibility of “recovery”: as soon as economic activity advances, oil prices will again spike, causing yet another financial crunch.

Thus Peak Oil likely represents the first of the limits to growth that will turn a century of economic expansion into decades of contraction. But more constraints are lining up in the stage wings, ready to make their entrance.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 13th, 2010 at 6:02pm
Peak Everything

The Resource Pyramid

Geologists and others who routinely deal with mineral ores and fossil fuels commonly speak of a “resource pyramid”: the capstone represents the easily and cheaply extracted portion of the resource; the next layer is the portion of the resource base that can be extracted with more difficulty and expense, and with worse environmental impacts; while the remaining bulk of the pyramid represents resources unlikely to be extracted under any realistic pricing scenario. The optimist may assume that the entire pyramid will eventually be usable, but this is simply not realistic. We have built a society on the basis of cheap energy and materials. At some point, as we move down the layers of the resource pyramid, rising commodity prices and increasing environmental cleanup costs (think Deepwater Horizon) will undercut both demand for resources and economic activity in general. As that happens, we see not just higher prices, but more volatile prices.

This is exactly what happened with the oil price spike of 2008. Many commentators who understand the essence of the Peak Oil dilemma have tended to assume that, as petroleum and other resources become scarcer, commodity prices will simply escalate in a linear fashion. What we saw instead was a rapid rise in prices (driven by rising demand and falling supply, and then exacerbated by speculation) precipitating an economic crash, followed by collapsing oil prices and curtailed investment in oil exploration—which, in due course, will provoke another rapid price rise. The cycle begins again. Each time the cycle churns, it will likely have an even more devastating economic impact.

The same will happen with natural gas as conventional gas grows scarce and the industry is forced to rely on quickly depleting and expensive-to-produce shale gas; and the same will happen with copper, uranium, indium, and rare-earth elements. Meanwhile, we will puzzle over the fact that the economy just doesn’t seem to work the way it once did. Instead of having plenty of energy with which to mine gold from seawater, we will find we don’t have enough cheap fuel to keep the airline industry aloft. Alternative non-fossil energy sources will come on line, but not quickly enough to keep up with the depletion of oil, coal, and gas. Prices of energy and raw materials will gyrate giddily, but the actual amounts consumed will be dropping. In general, labor costs will be falling and raw materials prices rising—the exact reverse of what occurred during the 20th century; but the adjustments will be anything but gradual.

It will take most folks a while to realize the simple fact that conventional economic growth is over. Done. Dead. Extinct.


The End of Growth—and What Comes After
The economic crash of 2008 is commonly perceived as another in a long series of recessions, from which a recovery will inevitably ensue. Recessions always end with recovery; of course this one will as well—or so we are told.

Yet now the situation is different. With oil production peaking, climate changing, and fresh water, soil, fish, and minerals depleting at alarming rates, the computer-based scenarios of the 1972 Limits to Growth study seem thoroughly and frighteningly confirmed. Decades of expansion fueled by consumption and debt are ending; the time has come to pay bills, tighten belts, and prepare for a future of economic downsizing.

Contemplating the end of growth—not as a theoretical possibility, but as a fait accompli, forced upon us by circumstances largely of our own making—is of course a bit depressing. The 20th century was one long expansionary surge interrupted by a couple of nasty World Wars and a Depression. At the beginning of that century world population stood at a little over 1.5 billion; by century’s end, it was 6 billion. In the industrialized West, per capita GDP grew from an average of $5000 to nearly $30,000 (in inflation-adjusted terms). We all came to believe that “progress” would go on like this more or less forever.

But while we were planning for utopia, we were in fact setting the stage for collapse. We were depleting our planet’s usable resources and altering the composition of Earth’s atmosphere. And we were building a global financial regime built on the expectation of perpetually expanding consumption and debt, a regime that could not function in a condition of stasis or contraction without generating billowing crises of default, insolvency, and foreclosure.

So, instead of being characterized by a continuation of the upward trajectory we have all grown accustomed to, the 21st century is destined to be one long downward glide punctuated by moments of financial, political, and geopolitical panic. And in retrospect, we’ll all probably eventually agree that our descent began in 2008.

We really have reached Peak Everything . . . but we’ve barely had a chance to enjoy the view; how brief was our moment at the apex! From here on, it’s going to be a bumpy downward roller-coaster ride.

What’s the Point?
It doesn’t have to end that way.

If we understand the nature of the limits we are confronting, it is still possible to back our way out of the population-resources cul de sac humanity has entered.
Link -
http://richardheinberg.com/220-peak-everything
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There are choices, business as usual or start thinking outside the square!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by muso on Sep 13th, 2010 at 9:37pm

lerche007 wrote on Sep 12th, 2010 at 6:03pm:
I has to ponder perceptions what did mankind do before oil?

Without oil? OMG will we die? Wood stoves and candle light? Horses ploughing fields?, Horses and carts for transportation?No heavy industries,no but more intense human input,harder labor!

At lest we wont have deaths on the roads,air we can breathe,Trees grown everywhere for the basics and much more!!!!

But I would say as the oil becomes scarce and the price of the stuff becomes so dear,will  then the alternates will find their markets.



The main problem is the huge world population that we have to support. Even within Australia, large cities would become unsustainable.  There is a huge supply chain machine that's driven by fossil fuels. With a deficit in energy supplies, people will die. We need to work towards plugging the deficit that will come, and we need to start now.

In those halcyon days where people got around on horseback, it was a very different world.  The population was much lower too.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 14th, 2010 at 11:51am

lerche007 wrote on Sep 12th, 2010 at 6:03pm:
I has to ponder perceptions what did mankind do before oil?

Without oil? OMG will we die? Wood stoves and candle light? Horses ploughing fields?, Horses and carts for transportation?No heavy industries,no but more intense human input,harder labor!

At lest we wont have deaths on the roads,air we can breathe,Trees grown everywhere for the basics and much more!!!!

But I would say as the oil becomes scarce and the price of the stuff becomes so dear,will  then the alternates will find their markets.




Perhaps those alternatives haven't yet got thru to the "status quo" crowd?
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Old-style coal plants expanding across the U.S.

Utilities across the country are building dozens of old-style coal plants that will cement the industry's standing as the largest industrial source of climate-changing gases for years to come.

An Associated Press examination of U.S. Department of Energy records and information provided by utilities and trade groups shows that more than 30 traditional coal plants have been built since 2008 or are under construction.

The construction wave stretches from Arizona to Illinois and South Carolina to Washington, and comes despite growing public wariness over the high environmental and social costs of fossil fuels, demonstrated by tragic mine disasters in West Virginia, the Gulf oil spill and wars in the Middle East.

The expansion, the industry's largest in two decades, represents an acknowledgment that highly touted "clean coal" technology is still a long way from becoming a reality and underscores a renewed confidence among utilities that proposals to regulate carbon emissions will fail. The Senate in July scrapped the leading bill to curb carbon emissions after opposition from Republicans and coal-state Democrats.

"Building a coal-fired power plant today is betting that we are not going to put a serious financial cost on emitting carbon dioxide," said Severin Borenstein, director of the Energy Institute at the University of California at Berkeley.

Federal officials have long struggled to balance coal's hidden costs against its more conspicuous role in providing half the nation's electricity.

Hoping for a technological solution, the Obama administration devoted $3.4 billion in stimulus spending to foster "clean-coal" plants that can capture and store greenhouse gases. Yet new investments in traditional coal plants total at least 10 times that amount — more than $35 billion.

Utilities say they are clinging to coal because its abundance makes it cheaper than natural gas or nuclear power and more reliable than intermittent power sources such as wind and solar. Still, the price of coal plants is rising and consumers in some areas served by the new facilities will see their electricity bill rise by up to 30 percent.


1) DOE spokesman John Grasser acknowledged the new plants represent a missed chance to rein in carbon emissions. But he said more opportunities would arise as electricity consumption increases.

2) Experts say the widespread application of carbon-neutralizing technologies for coal plants remains at least 15 to 20 years away.

Link -
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2012834766_newcoalplants12.html
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1) It seems that the DOE is also into -
Credilble
Reliable
Abundant
Paradpxes

 This US surge back into old Coal & the China surge in Coal Production & the building of Coal fired power stations confirms the clear intent of these two Global Economic powerhouses (pun intended), is to maintain the status quo.    

2) That said, Peak Energy is here now, we just don't have the luxury of having time on our side, we need to take action now on Renewable Energy , not back old Coal for another 20 years!



Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 14th, 2010 at 12:12pm

muso wrote on Sep 13th, 2010 at 9:37pm:

lerche007 wrote on Sep 12th, 2010 at 6:03pm:
I has to ponder perceptions what did mankind do before oil?

Without oil? OMG will we die? Wood stoves and candle light? Horses ploughing fields?, Horses and carts for transportation?No heavy industries,no but more intense human input,harder labor!

At lest we wont have deaths on the roads,air we can breathe,Trees grown everywhere for the basics and much more!!!!

But I would say as the oil becomes scarce and the price of the stuff becomes so dear,will  then the alternates will find their markets.



The main problem is the huge world population that we have to support. Even within Australia, large cities would become unsustainable.  There is a huge supply chain machine that's driven by fossil fuels. With a deficit in energy supplies, people will die. We need to work towards plugging the deficit that will come, and we need to start now.

In those halcyon days where people got around on horseback, it was a very different world.  The population was much lower too.


True Muso, however it seems both major OZ Political party's don't understand basic arithmetic or they simply don't have the guts the stand up and be counted, because it may cost them votes and the support of powerful "status quo" backers!

All of which is very short term (for Pollies, "status quo" backers & the Public), driven by daily TV news opportunities, election timetables and completely lacks future vision!

As is evidenced by both major party's essentially backing OZ to continue its Population growth.

Btw, it seems that China may also be about to start growing again? The following article suggests that Shanghai may have the one child policy relaxed and its population may increase from the current 23 million, to 50 million in 2050.
http://www.cnngo.com/shanghai/life/shanghai-supersized-2050-187008

That's what they say, but I can not see it becoming reality, for many reasons, including Energy problems in Power generation & Transport!
 

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 15th, 2010 at 3:34pm
Economics and security of global supply of coal

Globally, coal, with its gasification technologies, appeared in the early 19th century. The discovery of petroleum and gas and 100 years of declining prices, however, has hindered the demand for coal-based synthetic fuel conversion.

Nevertheless, due to the larger known resources and reserves of coal, compared to crude oil and gas globally, and the current trend of higher world oil and gas prices, coal will continue to hold promise.

The growing need for electricity in China and India will drive global demand, even when, due to carbon tax, coal demand in Europe will decline.

At this moment, China is installing two to three new coal-fired power plants per week with capacities of 500 to 600 MW per plant, and has plans to continue at that pace for at least the next decade.

US demand for coal will also increase significantly, but will mainly drive increased coal production in the United States.

Coal has the advantages of the least cost and a great abundance.

The abundant coal resources are distributed in regions of the world other than the Persian Gulf, the unstable region that contains the largest reserves of crude oil and gas.

The US, China and India have immense coal reserves.

The need to use electricity to replace some of the energy lost due to the decline of oil and natural gas will put yet more upward pressure on the global demand for coal.

As the global demand continuously grows, so does the global supply. Statistics say that the global coal production will substantially increase over the next 10 to 15 years, mainly driven by Australia, China, former Soviet Union countries, such as Russia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, and South Africa.

However, this stable growth — and only up to a certain period after that — will likely be compatible with the world policy scenario, in which coal production is constrained by climate policy measures. MIT projects a window of 50 to 75 years, world coal production will then reach a plateau and will eventually decline thereafter.

However, in the absence of a technological breakthrough, coal, in significant quantities, will remain indispensable.

Our dependency on coal for decades ahead is indispensable. Worse, this is likely to involve a massive increase in low-grade coal production, as more than half of our reserves are low-grade — possessing a high water but low calorie content and higher ash disposal — producing more CO2 per ton of coal.

What is needed is a Project Apollo for coal — sizeable and global coordinated efforts to acquire clean coal knowledge, without which we are doomed to stall.
Link -
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2010/09/14/economics-and-security-global-supply-coal.html
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Well, one thing is for sure, a great big Technology breakthru is needed and it is needed urgently!

But if its just more of the same old, same old, then yes, we are doomed to stall.

A couple of abservations -
1) I just can not see clean coal, it would be a waste of time & resources, which could be better used elsewhere.
2) Yes, you did read correctly, it said "China is installing two to three new coal-fired power plants per week, but I can not see that pace continuing for another decade.
3) Yes, lower grade Coal, will lead to more CO2, which will accelerate Climate Change.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 15th, 2010 at 7:33pm
First peak oil, now peak coal, says former Cal prof

This story from Mason Inman of National Geographic News warns that we’re perched on the brink of peak production of one of the world’s crucial energy sources, coal.

For folks here in Berkeley, the name of researcher who’s work Inman relies on will strike a familiar chord. It’s Tad Patzek, formerly of UC Berkeley, where he was one of the most outspoken of the critics of the university’s $500 million contract with BP.

Patzek, who has warned that peak oil will force major changes in American lifestyles, now cautions that the fuel we rely on for much of our electricity and most of the world’s steel production:

No matter how bad coal might be for the planet, the conventional wisdom is that there is so much of it underground that the world’s leading fuel for electricity will continue to dominate the energy scene unless global action is taken on climate change.

But what if conventional wisdom is wrong?

A new study seeks to shake up the assumption that use of coal, the most carbon-intensive fossil fuel, is bound to continue its inexorable rise. In fact, the authors predict that world coal production may reach its peak as early as next year, and then begin a permanent decline.

The study, led by Tad Patzek, chairman of the Department of Petroleum and Geosystems Engineering at the University of Texas at Austin, and published in the August issue of Energy, predicts that by mid-century, the world’s coal mining will supply only half as much energy as today.


The idea that the world will face “peak coal” as soon as 2011 flies in the face of most earlier estimates and analysis.

The London-based World Coal Institute, an industry group including the largest international coal producers, says “the use of coal will rise 60 percent over the next 20 years,” and that “coal will last us for at least 119 years.” And the U.S. Energy Information Administration, in its most recent international outlook, projects that coal consumption for electricity will grow more than 50 percent by 2035 unless policies are put in place to stop the growth of greenhouse gas emissions.

However, the Patzek study paints a far different picture — and not because people will use up the last of the coal in the ground. Rather, the world will finish off the coal that is easy to reach and high-quality — the coal that produces a large amount of energy per ton, the new study says. What remains will often be of lower quality, and progressively harder to dig up and bring to where it is used.

The study’s prediction for the time of the peak — actually a peak in the energy produced by global coal production — may not turn out to be exactly right, Patzek said. “I’m not saying that on July 1, 2011, there will be a peak.”

But the main thrust of the study is stark: “We are near or at the peak right now,” he said.

If true, this could have a vast impact on the world economy.

Coal-fired power plants supply 40 percent of the world’s electricity, and energy for two-thirds of the world’s steel production.

“If we are right,” Patzek’s study said, “major restructuring and shrinking of the global economy will follow.”


Many countries are counting on coal to continue powering their economies for decades to come.

“The United States is the Saudi Arabia of coal,” said President Barack Obama earlier this year, referring to estimates that the United States has the largest coal reserves of any country. Citing the huge stores and the need for clean energy, Obama made the remark at the launch of a task force to study how to deploy technology to “clean up” coal, through carbon capture and storage technology, in the next 10 years.

However, Patzek argues that the reserves estimates of the United States and other countries overstate how much coal is actually practical to mine and use.

“In my study, I disregard completely these [reserve] estimates,” Patzek said. “They’re not credible.”

“The only estimate that’s credible,” he argued, “is what actually comes out of the mines, and how you project that into the future.”
Link -
http://richardbrenneman.wordpress.com/2010/09/14/first-peak-oil-now-it%E2%80%99s-peak-coal-says-former-cal-prof/
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So, there may well be a lot of Coal left, but at what quality, what is it's Energy producing capacity and at what cost?

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 16th, 2010 at 9:33pm
The Peak Oil Crisis: Is $50 Oil in the Offing?

In the last few weeks, there has been an upswing in articles emanating from prestigious commentators, such as the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), and Fortune magazine, which attempt to debunk the notion that the world's oil supplies may start to fall in the next few years.

There is of course nothing new in the AIE's and Fortune's arguments that there is plenty of oil left in the ground and that free enterprise, new technology, and higher prices will bring all the oil you will ever want to your nearest gas station in time to avert an economic crisis. Fortune even talks about a great glut of oil and lower prices ($50 a barrel) that will soon emerge from the unusually high U.S. stockpiles, a great surge in Iraqi and Kazakh oil production, and more efficient cars.

The editors commissioning these pieces and the authors apparently have never looked at the IEA's and EIA's oil production and demand charts which show global production has been flat for five years, and that demand from China, India, and domestic consumption in oil producing countries is rising steadily. There are simply not enough new oil fields being drilled to offset declines in production from currently producing oil fields.

Now what does peak oil tell us about economic growth? In a nutshell, it says that continuing to grow with declining global supplies of oil and eventually coal and then natural gas is going to be very difficult if not impossible to pull off. For the last 100 years, the global economy has been in lockstep with global oil production. More growth requires more oil. There are of course many unknowns and interactions ahead. We have no idea how fast global oil production is going to go down or how much is going to be available to oil importing economies. We have no idea whether China, India and the oil exporters are going to be able to continue growing at 8-10 percent a year until they hit the wall of falling resources.

Closer to home, we have no idea whether the economies of the U.S. and the other OECD countries are going to lurch along with little or no growth for the foreseeable future or sink further into decline under the weight of massive public and private debt. There are simply too many variables to work out a likely path ahead. While there are substitutes for oil and many ways to conserve or increase the efficiency with which we use the world's remaining resources, these substitutions cannot happen overnight. While discretionary motoring can be abandoned, conservation programs started, and car pools formed relatively quickly, implementing sufficient efficiencies in energy consumption will take decades - even if there remain sufficient resources to implement the required changes.

Therefore, peak oil is a phenomenon no one with an interest in the status quo cares to acknowledge publicly or even think about for it implies there will be massive changes in ways of life. Those "debunking" peak oil know this, but they also want to keep the status quo moving for as long as possible. Once a critical mass of people understands that global oil production will soon be in a decline and a return to economic growth will become nearly impossible, behavior will change. A massive scramble will ensue that likely will cause great harm to the financial services industry that has grown so large and influential in recent decades.


It is to delay the realization of what is about to happen on the part of the general public for as long as possible, is what motivates the debunkers. Until the day when declines in global oil production become too obvious to deny we will continue to read stories about $50 oil.
Link -
http://www.fcnp.com/commentary/national/7360-the-peak-oil-crisis-is-50-oil-in-the-offing.html
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Yes, The "status quo" will only go, if dragged kicking & screaming and even then, not until after a great deal of damage is done!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 18th, 2010 at 10:51am
Coal's days numbered as power fuel

COAL is becoming the dinosaur among fuel sources, irrespective of future political decisions about a carbon price or an emissions trading scheme.
The economics of electricity -- with the coal price skyrocketing, tighter regulations on coal-fired power, and uncertainty around future emissions laws -- have put gas in the driver's seat.

The proportion of power generated by coal is dropping rapidly, and state governments and industry alike regard the emergence of new coal-fired baseload power station proposals as unlikely.

A recent report by the Australian Bureau of Agricultural and Resource Economics showed that, among electricity projects that are advanced but not yet on line, only 9 per cent of capacity will be coal-generated. The report predicts coal's share of power generation will drop from 72 per cent to 43 per cent between now and 2030, while the share contributed by gas will almost double to 37 per cent.

None of the states have issued outright bans on coal, but NSW and Queensland have introduced tight rules, adding significantly to the cost of coal-fired stations.

The rules resemble those projected by Prime Minister Julia Gillard during the election campaign. They deem that any coal-fired stations must use low-emissions technology and be able to be retrofitted with carbon-capture technology, when it becomes available.

South Australian Energy Minister Pat Conlon told The Australian yesterday the best way to deal with the issue of fuel was to introduce an emissions trading scheme.

"The sooner we have an ETS or some clear understandable method of pricing carbon, the sooner we will see the next stage of investment in baseload," Mr Conlon said. "On present indications, we would believe that gas would be the most likely fuel used in new baseload."

Western Australia does not currently have a plan for its future baseload power generation and the role coal will play in that.

In Victoria, Premier John Brumby has committed to cutting greenhouse emissions by at least 20 per cent on year 2000 levels by 2020, driven by a focus on solar.
Link -
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/mining-energy/coals-days-numbered-as-power-fuel/story-e6frg9e6-1225925060596
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If Australia does start to transition away from Coal, it will be taking an opposite tack to China & the USA, which are busy building old style Coal power stations.

One very good reason to move away from Coal, is that we are faced with higher costs, as the higher grades of Coal Peak and we are forced to shift to lower grades, which produce less Energy & more CO2.

Western Australia appears to be waiting & hoping that things will change? And that may happen, as Babcock & Brown, the owners of Alinta Gas, who are the sole supplier of Gas to WA & also supply about a third of South Australia's gas, are reportedly nearing receivership, as they struggle to find agreement with the lenders.

Finally, I repeat again, an ETS is not the answer. I suggest that legislated, mandatory cuts in GHG emissions, backed by tax carrots & sticks would be a better option!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 18th, 2010 at 9:32pm
EROI, Insidious Feedbacks, and the End of Economic Growth

Numerous theories attempting to explain business cycles have been posited over the past century, each offering a unique explanation for the causes of--and solutions to--recessions, including: Keynesian Theory, the Monetarist Model, the Rational Expectations Model, Real Business Cycle Models, New (Neo-) Keynesian models, etc…

Yet, for all the differences amongst these theories, they all share one implicit assumption: a return to a growing economy, i.e. growing GDP, is in fact possible. Historically, there has been no reason to question this assumption as GDP, incomes, and most other measures of economic growth have in fact grown steadily over the past century. (Note: economic growth and “business as usual” economic growth are used synonymousy to mean an annual growth in GDP)

But if you believe as I do that the world is entering a unique period defined by flattening and then declining oil supplies, then for the first time in history we may be asked to grow the economy while simultaneously decreasing oil consumption, something that has yet to occur in the U.S. In this post I attempt to answer the following question: Is a return to long term economic growth possible?

Economic growth over the past 200 years has correlated highly with energy consumption (Figure 1). Even more telling, since 1970, 50% of the year on year change in GDP in the U.S. is explained by the year on year change in oil consumption alone (Figure 2). This is important because oil consumption per se is rarely used by neoclassical economists as a means of explaining economic growth. For example, Knoop (2010) described the 1973 recession in terms of high oil prices, high unemployment and inflation, yet omitted mentioning that oil consumption declined four percent during the first year and two percent during the second year. Later in the same description, Knoop claimed that the emergence from this recession in 1975 was due to a decrease in both the price of oil and inflation, and an increase in money supply. To be sure, those factors contributed to the recession and the emergence from the recession, but what was omitted, again, was the simple fact that higher oil prices led to less oil consumption and lower economic output during 1973 and lower oil prices led to increased oil consumption and hence greater economic output in 1975.


Figure 1. Energy production and GDP for the world from 1830 to 2000.

To summarize: economic growth requires not only energy per se, but inexpensive energy.
With that point in mind, we can address the previous question about whether or not a future of long term economic growth is possible by answering two sub-questions: 1) do we have the physical resources to supply a growing economy, and 2) can we reach those supply targets while maintaining a low price? Since long term economic growth requires an increasing supply of cheap energy, answering no to either of these sub-questions would indicate that long term economic growth is unlikely.

First, economic growth requires increasing oil supplies, so increasing GDP by 4 or 5 percent per annum will require a commensurate increase in oil supplies. Although most of the readers on this website are aware of Peak Oil, some argue that it is a red herring. I will not go into the numerous arguments rebutting the naysayers other than saying the following: what matters in the context of business as usual economic growth is whether we can continue increasing our oil supply into the future or whether oil supplies will be constrained. In this context, the actual date of the peak is irrelevant. Even a cursory examination would reveal that, at a minimum, oil supplies will be constrained in the future.

Second, increasing the supply of oil will require maintaining current production and discovering new sources of oil. This includes maintaining production in oil sands, exploring ultra deep water, and exploring even the poles. Let’s say, for argument sake, that we are able to find oodles of oil in these locations. The question then becomes: can we produce this oil cheaply? We can get a glimpse at how production costs change over time by relating the EROI of production to the financial cost of production (Figure 4).

As resource quality declines, i.e. lower EROI, the cost of producing the resource increases. Alternatively, if we examine a supply graph for global oil production we can see an interesting relation between quantity and price (Figure 5). Both of these figures indicate that increasing oil production much beyond today’s level will create an exponential increase in price. In sum, increasing the oil supply, if in fact we can do such a thing, can occur only at high oil prices.



Figure 4. Oil production costs from various sources as a function of the EROI of those sources. The dotted lines represent the real oil price averaged over both recessions and expansions during the period from 1970 through 2008.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 18th, 2010 at 9:45pm
EROI, Insidious Feedbacks, and the End of Economic Growth (Cont)

Due to the depletion of high EROI oil (and hence cheap oil), the current economic situation can be described by the following feedbacks (Figure 6): 1) economic growth increases oil demand, 2) higher oil demand increases oil production from lower EROI resources, 3) increasing extraction costs leads to higher oil prices, 4) higher oil prices stall economic growth or cause economic contractions, 5) economic contraction leads to lower oil demand, 6) lower oil demand leads to lower oil prices which spur another short bout of economic growth until this cycle repeats itself.



This system of insidious feedbacks is aptly described as a growth paradox: maintaining business as usual economic growth will require the production of new sources of oil, yet the only sources of oil remaining require high oil prices, thus hampering economic growth.

The growth paradox leads to a highly volatile economy that oscillates frequently between expansion and contraction periods, and as a result, there may appear to be numerous peaks in oil production (a so-called "undulating plateau"). In terms of business cycles, the main difference between economic models of the past and the this model is that in the past business cycles appeared as oscillations around an increasing trend whereas in this model they appear as oscillations around a flat trend. In other words, our baseline economic models may be switching from an implicit 1 or 2 percent growth to a steady-state, or dare I say, declining trend.

So arguments that cite vast oil reserves 10,000 leagues under the sea or in the poles as evidence that peak oil will not matter need to realize that in terms of economic growth, oil per se isn’t enough. Cheap oil is needed for economic growth, and we are simply running out of the good, cheap crude.
Link -
http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6961
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Whilst I agree with the basic trust of what the author is saying, I would also say that Oil & Energy do not exist in isolation.

Oil & Energy per se, are part of an interlocking whole, in which humanity integrates Population issues, such as Aging, over-population & decline, other major factors include Debt, Climate Change & human interaction with ourselves.

The human condition itself is a source of major conflict, as some want to retain what they have, whilst others see what is available and seek it for themselves!

You talk of a flat trend, a steady state and possibly dare to say, declining trend.

I would observe that you have rightly pointed out regarding Oil & Energy and that the other major factors of Aging (Baby Boomer Bust), an actual declining population starting within 20-30 years, Global Debt oveflowing & Climate Change, are all conspiring to prevent the usual Economic remedies!

Given the broad thrust of all major influencing factors, I would suggest that there can be no flat trend and no steady state.

Global Economics is now set on that growth paradox, which leads to a highly volatile economy, which oscillates frequently between expansion and contraction, but now the new trend line is down and it is set to continuing reversing until probably the end of this century or longer.

As usual, there is a possible way out and that depends on whether a cheap and abundant replacement for Fossil Fuels is found, in terms of Power generation, Liquid Transport Fuels & the many others uses, as well as a quick agreement can be found thru the human condition, to implement that new Energy source, with a Manhattan project urgency, on a Global basis!

One of the comments to this article also included the following useful charts -


I draw your attention to the similar trajectory followed by growth in Human Population & growth in Fossil Fuels usage and I also draw attention to the expected Fossil Fuel Peak Production dates -
2012 - Oil
2024 - Coal
2029 - Gas  

2018 - Peak All Fossil Fuels

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 20th, 2010 at 5:00pm
Chris Martensons Crash Course

Anyone wanting to get a holistic handle on current & future events, including Financial issues, would do well to review all of the following!

Personally, I would view Chapter 19, for an overview, then go back to Chapter’s 1 thru 18, to get a full perspective. Finally, look at Chapter 20 to view, What should we do?

The following observation of Arthur Schopenhauer is included in these videos and is very apt!

All Truth passes through three stages.

First, it is ridiculed.
Second, it is violently opposed.
Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

Chapter 1 – Three Beliefs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnXZzx9pAmQ&feature=player_embedded

Chapter 2 – The three E’s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTEHUbfP7OA&NR=1

Chapter 3 – Exponential Growth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXd66gP53fk&NR=1


Chapter 4 – Compounding is the Problem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIwyMif5EOg&NR=1

Chapter 5 – Growth Vs Prosperity
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1KsFDLZ3B4&NR=1

Chapter 6 – What is Money?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8dq1bH1X6s&NR=1

Chapter 7 – Money Creation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIxhsF6JLEA&NR=1

Chapter 8 – The Fed & Money Creation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3_Q1SiRN-A&NR=1

Chapter 9 – A brief History of US Money
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM7rITeNW6U&NR=1

Chapter 10 - Inflation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afWqKcqntfs&feature=channel

Chapter 11 – How much is a TRILLION?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caMRBGmja3w&feature=channel

Chapter 12 – DEBT (1 of 2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsTblStwiuM&feature=channel

Chapter 12 – DEBT (2 of 2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8ECro3HwPo&NR=1

Chapter 13 – A National Failure to Save (1 of 2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKn3jROgznM&feature=channel

Chapter 13 – A National Failure to Save (2 of 2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuJIEscbKGI&NR=1


Chapter 14 – Assets & Demographics (1 of 2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y23zmnocxdM&feature=channel

Chapter 14 – Assets & Demographics (2 of 2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EcXKzRNBVE&NR=1


Chapter 15 – Bubbles (1 of 2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v2QynM0V2E&feature=channel

Chapter 15 – Bubbles (2 of 2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0QStbuLRLc&NR=1


Chapter 16 – Fuzzy Numbers (1of 2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsNgJVD8KgY&feature=channel

Chapter 16 – Fuzzy Numbers (2of 2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01KIOjTe2CM&NR=1


Chapter 17a – Peak Oil (1 of 2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni8s7orGZbY&feature=channel

Chapter 17a – Peak Oil (2 of 2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoFTNurAcws&NR=1


Chapter 17b – Energy Budgeting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeBtdwPpTQM&feature=channel

Chapter 17c – Energy & the Economy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6w6gf3tSGTg&feature=channel

Chapter 18 – Environment Data (1 of 2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lRkB6gvBC0&feature=channel

Chapter 18 – Environment Data (2 of 2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BafOxXU13sk&NR=1

Chapter 19 – Future Shock
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDNvr82gqd0&feature=channel

Chapter 20 – What should I do?
http://vodpod.com/watch/1239314-crash-course-chapter-20-what-should-i-do-chris-martenson

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 20th, 2010 at 9:33pm
Arithmetic, Population & Energy
Dr Albert Bartlett


(Part 1 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-QA2rkpBSY&p=230E06A93105883E&index=1

(Part 2 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb3JI8F9LQQ&p=230E06A93105883E&index=2

(Part 3 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFyOw9IgtjY&p=230E06A93105883E&index=3

(Part 4 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQd-VGYX3-E&p=230E06A93105883E&index=4

(Part 5 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-X6EpvWWu8&p=230E06A93105883E&index=5

(Part 6 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3y7UlHdhAU&p=230E06A93105883E&index=6

(Part 7 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyseLQVpJEI&p=230E06A93105883E&index=7

(Part 8 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoiiVnQadwE&p=230E06A93105883E&index=8

The Bacteria comparison in Chapter 3, is apt!

But, there are a few other apt observations –
1) Technology Optimists will always be able to solve all of our Population Growth, Food, Energy & Resources problems?
2) Thinking is upsetting, it tells us things, we’d rather not know!
3) The chief source of problems, is solutions!
4) Facts do not cease to exist, simply because they are ignored1
5) The 1st Law of Sustainability, is that Population growth &/or growth in the rates of Consumption of Resources
CAN NOT BE SUSTAINED!
6) The greatest shortcoming of the human race, is OUR INABILITY TO UNDERSTAND THE EXPONENTIAL FUNCTION!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 23rd, 2010 at 9:51pm
Peak Oil Interview: Misconceptions, Replacing Oil, and False Solutions

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjOFCegjoik&feature=player_embedded

The misconception that Peak Oil means we are running out of oil
The idea that oil will be very difficult to replace, and impossible to replace solely with biomass
The danger posed by false solutions (which I denoted the ‘fake fire brigade‘ in my presentation)
The difficulty the developing world will have in attaining a ‘First World‘ standard of living
What will happen if oil peaks soon and declines rapidly
The reasons for the rise in oil prices over the past decade
That we are now comfortable with $80 oil — and why that is dangerous
The fact that some “renewable energy” is mostly embedded fossil energy
The reason I prefer thermochemical technologies over biochemical technologies
The types of projects that my company is working on; primarily energy projects that can be operated on low fossil fuel inputs and ideally off the grid (i.e., projects that could provide meaningful energy in a world in which oil supplies are declining)

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 23rd, 2010 at 10:08pm
The Biggest Systemic Risk For The Financial System Is Limited Oil

It seems to me that if we are in fact reaching limits with respect to oil supply, this should be of considerable concern. We have a financial system that demands economic growth, for reasons that will be discussed later in this paper. At the same time, as we approach limits with respect to oil production, the ability of the world’s economy to grow becomes constrained, because in order for economic growth to occur, we will need to do more and more, with less and less oil.

The conflict of these two forces – a need for economic growth in a world that can no longer provide growing oil supply – sets the financial system up for a systemic risk of collapse. Furthermore, there is significant evidence that the financial problems of 2008 were early signs of this systemic risk affecting the financial system. If oil supply should actually begin to decline in the future, we can expect financial problems of 2008 to return and worsen.

Oil’s Connection to the Economy

Oil is used for a huge number of purposes—transportation fuel, heating fuel, fuel for extracting minerals of all types, lubricant, and raw material for asphalt for road paving, plastics, synthetic cloth, medicines, fertilizer, pesticides, and herbicides, to name a few things. A declining oil supply, or even a level supply, should be a serious concern, with the world’s rising population.

In recent years, there have been many attempts to try to find substitutes for oil, but with very limited success.


Other so-called replacements for oil are only very partial replacements, and are still very far away from being full-scale solutions. Biofuel from algae is being investigated, but it is still very expensive, and not yet scalable. Electric cars are being developed, but they still are many years from being ready to replace our huge fleet of cars with internal combustion engines.

It should noted that the problem with oil supply is really an economic one.
At some point, limits are reached in the amount people can afford to pay for oil, and we may already approaching those limits.

Timing
Many observers would like us to believe that limits on oil and other resources are still a long way off, but this is not really true. World crude oil production has already stopped rising. Oil production has been essentially flat from 2005 to 2010,6 meaning that more and more cars and trucks must compete for the same fuel supply.



Impacts

While crude oil supply has not yet begun declining, it had been essentially flat since 2005, and this lack of growth is putting tremendous pressure on the world’s financial system, since we now must do more and more with essentially the same oil supply. Oil prices have risen, and this is one source of financial problems, because higher oil prices have a disruptive impact on balance of payments, and can also cause a reduction in profits of companies.

But higher oil prices can also lead to recession and debt defaults.
High oil prices don’t give ordinary citizens more salary to spend, so they have to cut back on something else. One possibility is a cutback in discretionary spending, which will tend to lead to recession. If the cutback is in buying new homes, the price of new homes can be expected to drop. James Hamilton wrote a paper called, “Causes and Consequences of the Oil Shock of 2007-2008” showing that the run up in oil prices in the years prior to 2008 was sufficient to cause the major recession we have recently experienced.9

Economic System’s Need for Growth
Our current economic system includes a huge amount of debt. Money is loaned into existence. Debt is used to finance many business expansions. Governments rely heavily on debt.

The US economy has been growing for many years, with only brief interruptions, so nearly all of our experience with borrowing money, and paying it back with interest, has been during periods of economic growth.

Borrowing from the future is relatively easy when the economy is growing, because when the time comes to pay back the debt, the debtor’s economic condition is likely to be as good as it was when the loan was taken out, and may even be better. So defaults are relatively uncommon, and the growth in the economy between the time the loan was taken out and the time it is repaid provides some contribution toward the interest payments.

But what if we start encountering a very different kind of world, one with a decline in oil supplies? If oil resources constrain economic growth, debt defaults can be expected to rise, and the whole debt system underlying our financial system is at risk. Insurance companies are very much at risk too, because many of their assets are bonds. In the past, these bonds would have been repaid with interest, but in a world with little economic growth, and perhaps economic decline, the risk of default becomes much higher.

Even if we should discover a way around our problems—say a new technology, which permits more oil extraction at lower cost, or a better substitute for oil, financial institutions--including insurance companies--are still likely to encounter substantial systemic risk related to debt defaults in the next few years.
Link -
http://www.businessinsider.com/peak-oil-systemic-risk-financial-system-2010-9

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 24th, 2010 at 9:01am
Peak Oil Consumption - How much oil is left?




Link -
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1276908003;action=post2
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Whilst Reserves & Consumption will fluctuate, both up & down, on current indications we (humans) will be running on the fumes of an empty Oil tank around the middle of this century.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 25th, 2010 at 10:23pm
SA is nearing peak coal, say scientists

South Africa has more coal than it can ever burn, right? If you think this, as many of us do, think again.

Research by international and local scientists has shown that coal, like other resources, is finite and can be expected to comply with peak resources theory. The theory shows that production in commodities such as oil grows until a peak is reached, whereafter production declines.

In the case of South African coal, the studies show production has already reached its peak, or soon will.

"It is commonly believed that South Africa has abundant coal reserves which will last 200 years or more," says Jeremy Wakeford, chair of the Association for the Study of Peak Oil (Aspo) in South Africa, in the organisation’s latest newsletter.

"But recent research [from] three scientific journals suggests that usable reserves are much smaller than previously thought, and that annual production could reach a peak and begin to decline within a decade -- or might even have peaked already."

Wakeford says that "given the country’s overwhelming dependence on coal, this issue has huge ramifications for our future development path".

Coal provides 70% of the country’s energy supply, supports 90% of electricity generation, is used to make a quarter of the country’s liquid fuels using the Sasol process and is a big earner of foreign exchange through exports to foreign users.

Geologist Chris Hartnady, in a paper to be published in the SA Journal of Science, has forecast peak production in 2020 at about 285-million tonnes a year.

This compares with total production last year of 242-million tonnes. This was mostly used by Eskom (123-million tonnes), Sasol (40-million tonnes) and export (66-million tonnes). Eskom’s current expansion programme could use an additional 50-million tonnes, and if the Sasol Mafutha project goes ahead it will need another 20-million tonnes annually, says Wakeford.

David Rutledge, a professor at the California Institute of Technology, has meanwhile forecast South African production to peak in 2011 at about 253-million tonnes a year.

This is supported by research by two American professors, says Wakeford, Tadeusz Patzek and Gregory Croft, published this year in the journal Energy. "They estimate that South Africa’s coal production from existing coal fields, when measured in energy units, peaked in 2007.

"They further contend that future mines are unlikely to reverse the trend since the economics of mining dictates that most accessible reserves are mined earlier on, so that the net energy return from the coal mining declines while the production costs rise over time," says Wakeford.

Eskom chief executive Brian Dames bemoaned the poor quality of coal Eskom is receiving in a briefing to parliamentarians earlier this month.

Dames said that Eskom was losing 1 000 megawatts of power each day because of the low quality of coal it was being supplied. He warned that the utility may have to start paying higher prices to improve the quality of its coal supplies and that these costs would be passed on to consumers.

Wakeford said that the implications of peak coal are stark. "The cost of coal is almost certainly going to maintain a rising trend -- albeit with greater volatility -- resulting in increasingly expensive electricity and steel."

"Domestic demand for coal could increasingly compete with exports, raising questions around how the country’s natural resources should best be utilised and the role and rights of privately owned mining companies.

Wakeford said that leaving aside social and environmental concerns around carbon dioxide emissions, water scarcity, pollution and health impacts, entrenching dependence on a depleting fossil fuel is taking the country down a cul-de-sac.

He said that the solution is to embark on an aggressive drive for energy conservation and efficiency while diversifying our energy mix away from coal as an imperative. "We should not wait until coal becomes too expensive or scarce, but invest now in renewable energy infrastructure and industries.Link -
http://www.mg.co.za/article/2010-09-24-sa-is-nearing-peak-coal-say-scientists
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Do we wait for the scientists to tell us (OZ) that our Coal Production has Peaked?

Or, has it already and that is the real reason for increasing power costs?




Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 25th, 2010 at 10:29pm
Peak of the Devil

The very best we can hope for is a smooth and orderly transition from the modern oil powered world we have now to a stable world of little or no oil in the next hundred years or so. Human nature being what it is, I don’t look for that smooth and orderly part to happen so much.

It would be comforting to think that we can change our lives without disruption and conflict; that we can all work together toward this one common goal and put aside our differences and minimize the trauma and drama.

It would also be nice if there were no calories in chocolate and we could eat all we wanted without gaining weight. Again, don’t look for that to happen either.

Peak oil, and the aftermath of that peak, is going to cause traumatic shocks that will unsettle virtually every aspect of our lives, no matter where you live.

Link -
http://www.energybulletin.net/stories/2010-09-23/book-review-peak-devil

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by Bob Hunter LDP on Sep 27th, 2010 at 2:00pm
It's not that people who are concerned about the depletion of natural resources don't understand economics, it's that they don't understand what economics is. Economics is how we appropriate or ration out limited resources. The most successful way we've ever figured out of doing that is the price system. The price system is simply a way of measuring demand so you can appropriate supply more efficiently. You have milk, you make ice-cream and yoghurt out of it, heaps of of people buy your ice-cream but not your yoghurt, so you appropriate more of your milk to ice-cream so as not to waste it on yoghurt. Like milk, crude oil is used for more than just petrol. But the reason most of it used for petrol and not wasted on too much kerosene or asphalt is because we let the supply of oil be determined by a price system.

The price system also tells us just how scarce a resource is. Beach houses are expensive because there's not enough beachfront property to go around. But a beachfront property is highly desirable. So the high prices of beach houses reflect their high demand and limited supply. As a result of the high price of owning beach front property, only a few can purchase it. As oil reserves deplete, the price of oil will rise to reflect its scarcity. The higher the price of oil, the less people will be able to afford it which will create a huge demand for alternative sources of energy. The more you understand these economic mechanism, the less worried you are that oil is going to run out and we're going to have an energy crisis.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by Amadd on Sep 27th, 2010 at 4:43pm
I think that everybody understands the concept of supply and demand. And that is the big concern.

Yes I can invisage a time, maybe in the not too distant future, where fossil fuels will largely be used by more essential industries such as: agriculture, airlines, military..etc.
But what does that mean for the rest of us? I can only see that it means rising prices for a lot of the essentials and non-essentials that we take for granted.
In real terms (the buying power of our dollar), our wages must drop.
Whether that is achieved by wage squeeze, taxes, inflation, or a combination of all, the result will be the same.

And yes I agree that there will a huge demand for alternate sources of energy. What you're not factoring in is that our entire infrastucture is reliant on the abundance and efficiency of oil. Even a very smooth transition away from this reliance will be very costly.
Also, the end result where the masses aren't so reliant on fossil fuels may not be so rosy for a long while to come.
The demand will definitely be there for technology to make some leaps and bounds in renewable energy sources, but I wouldn't expect anything near the unsustainable efficiency of what we have today.







Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by Bob Hunter LDP on Sep 27th, 2010 at 5:49pm

Amadd wrote on Sep 27th, 2010 at 4:43pm:
I think that everybody understands the concept of supply and demand. And that is the big concern.

Yes I can invisage a time, maybe in the not too distant future, where fossil fuels will largely be used by more essential industries such as: agriculture, airlines, military..etc.
But what does that mean for the rest of us? I can only see that it means rising prices for a lot of the essentials and non-essentials that we take for granted.
In real terms (the buying power of our dollar), our wages must drop.
Whether that is achieved by wage squeeze, taxes, inflation, or a combination of all, the result will be the same.

And yes I agree that there will a huge demand for alternate sources of energy. What you're not factoring in is that our entire infrastucture is reliant on the abundance and efficiency of oil. Even a very smooth transition away from this reliance will be very costly.
Also, the end result where the masses aren't so reliant on fossil fuels may not be so rosy for a long while to come.
The demand will definitely be there for technology to make some leaps and bounds in renewable energy sources, but I wouldn't expect anything near the unsustainable efficiency of what we have today.







See, that's the thing. It's not reliant on the abundance of oil but the scarcity of oil.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by Amadd on Sep 27th, 2010 at 6:35pm

Quote:
See, that's the thing. It's not reliant on the abundance of oil but the scarcity of oil.


Huh?  :-?
How do you get that?



Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by Bob Hunter LDP on Sep 27th, 2010 at 6:43pm

Amadd wrote on Sep 27th, 2010 at 6:35pm:

Quote:
See, that's the thing. It's not reliant on the abundance of oil but the scarcity of oil.


Huh?  :-?
How do you get that?

That's what economics is, rationing out scarce resources. If oil was abundant we wouldn't have to economise it, we could give it away. Our economy has always relied on the scarcity of oil.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by Amadd on Sep 27th, 2010 at 7:38pm

Quote:
That's what economics is, rationing out scarce resources. If oil was abundant we wouldn't have to economise it, we could give it away. Our economy has always relied on the scarcity of oil.


So what you're saying is that when oil becomes so scarce that it can only be used by the wealthy or by certain industries, before it eventually dries up or becomes nearly impossible to extract, that this will be nothing but a hiccup to the economy?

Jeez, nations like China and India have done so well building their nations with a bull and dray haven't they?
It took them thousands of years and a hundred times more people to build something 1/10th as good as we've built in the last 100 years.










Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 27th, 2010 at 11:12pm

BobH wrote on Sep 27th, 2010 at 2:00pm:
It's not that people who are concerned about the depletion of natural resources don't understand economics, it's that they don't understand what economics is. Economics is how we appropriate or ration out limited resources. The most successful way we've ever figured out of doing that is the price system. The price system is simply a way of measuring demand so you can appropriate supply more efficiently. You have milk, you make ice-cream and yoghurt out of it, heaps of of people buy your ice-cream but not your yoghurt, so you appropriate more of your milk to ice-cream so as not to waste it on yoghurt. Like milk, crude oil is used for more than just petrol. But the reason most of it used for petrol and not wasted on too much kerosene or asphalt is because we let the supply of oil be determined by a price system.

The price system also tells us just how scarce a resource is. Beach houses are expensive because there's not enough beachfront property to go around. But a beachfront property is highly desirable. So the high prices of beach houses reflect their high demand and limited supply. As a result of the high price of owning beach front property, only a few can purchase it. As oil reserves deplete, the price of oil will rise to reflect its scarcity. The higher the price of oil, the less people will be able to afford it which will create a huge demand for alternative sources of energy.
The more you understand these economic mechanism, the less worried you are that oil is going to run out and we're going to have an energy crisis.


If that were the case, then we should now be swimming in a sea of alternative Energy supplies, because in 8 years Oil went from $10 a barrel to $147 a barrel. I see no such movement towards the alternative sources and certainly not on the level of urgency that is needed.

I'm sure FD would agree with me, when I say, based on your assessment, my understanding of Economics & Energy must be zero, because I think we have a huge crisis on our hands!  

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 30th, 2010 at 6:20pm


The Conclusion
Oil discovered 40 years ago is the basis of current oil production. The search for oil continues but projected oil discoveries will contribute little to projected oil production in 2030. The declining rate of oil discoveries makes it painfully obvious--most of the oil has already been discovered. The technology for finding oil has improved greatly since the major discoveries, yet little oil has been found in recent years. THe heyday of oil discovery was from 1950 to 1980. It is difficult to avoid the conclusion--most of the oil has been found.

There is a growing gap between discoveries and production.

World oil production is running flat out. Only the Saudis claim to have the ability to produce more though some dispute this. It is not a simple matter of turning a spigot or pumping faster. Oil fields can be permanently damaged by attempting to produce too fast.

Soon there will be a gap between production and demand.

It Gets Worse
According to BP (British Petroleum)[2] world oil reserves stand at 1238 billion barrels. At present (2008) yearly world oil production stands at 31 billion barrels. There is enough oil to last 40 years if production holds constant and no new oil is found. According to BP, the Middle East has 61% of the world's oil reserves. Africa has 9.6% and the Russian Federation has 6.4%. The two countries sharing borders with the United States, Mexico and Canada, together have only 3.2%. Venezeula, a short distance away via oil tanker, has 7%

The United States possesses 2.6% of the worlds oil reserves while it consumes 24% of the world's oil production.

Although the United States has only 2.4% of the world's oil, it produces 9.2%. If the production rate could be maintained, the oil will be gone in 11 years. The figures for Canada are the same and they are worse for Mexico. The Middle East has enough oil to last 88 years at present production rates. Africa has 33 years. Clearly the United States will be increasingly dependent on oil imported from those places. It is impossible to consider oil independence in light of these numbers.

The majority of the world's oil comes from old oil fields. For example, Kuwait still supplies 3% of the world's oil from a 70 year old field. The world's largest oil field, Ghawar, a 57 year old oil field, still supplies 5% of the world's oil.� The North Sea (discovered in 1963) was exploited very quickly and is now in steep decline. Alaska's Prudhoe Bay (discovered in 1968) is now a trickle.

Oil varies greatly in quality. Some oil is so light and sweet (low in sulfur) it can be pumped directly into the fuel tank of a Diesel truck. Some oil is more like tar and it may contain sulfur. It's hard to transport and natural gas may be needed to refine it into useful fuel. The oil from Manifa, a large oil field in Iran, is an extreme example. It contains so much sulfur and vanadium it can't be refined using today's technology. The average quality of oil is declining because the best quality was produced first.

Oil varies greatly in accessibility. It is convenient to access Kuwaiti oil. Oil tankers in the Persian Gulf load from nearby Kuwaiti oil wells. It is inconvenient to access oil from the north slope of Alaska. It was necessary to build an 800 mile pipeline over mountains and permafrost to reach the oil in Prudhoe Bay. Oil drilling platforms can reach oil in mile deep water but only at great expense in money terms and in energy terms. There is oil in the arctic but oil drilling platforms will have to deal with ice and deep water to access it.

The remaining oil will be expensive and difficult to produce, refine and transport.
Link -
http://planetforlife.com/oilcrisis/oilsituation.html
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That puts a few things into perspective!

All the low hanging & juiciest fruit (Oil Fields) has already been picked!

As the earlier mega fields are now either Peaking or already Peaked, their is only one direction for Production and that is down!

Similar basics apply for Coal & Gas, just a little later.

PS - The red dots are the IEA projections, which clearly are not based in reality.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 30th, 2010 at 10:00pm
Peak Coal: Profit from the Peaks

Now I realize that those who aren't keen to the idea of peak oil aren't about to embrace the notion of peak coal with open arms...

"After the peak oil garbage, you want us to believe in peak coal, Ian? What gives?

According to USGS studies, we have 250 years of it left. Peak coal is a fallacy. We're not running out of coal. Stop the fear mongering."
— James T.

That 250-year supply report from the USGS was compiled in the 1970s. And, as I'm sure even James can attest to, a lot has changed since then...

Updated USGS studies find that we may only have 100 years of coal left — a startling drop from 250 years.

Plus, what James doesn't understand is that the easiest and most profitable coal reserves are mined first. New technology can help, but sooner or later, you reach the point when the energy needed to extract coal is so great that it's no longer profitable.

And at the rate that we're burning through coal, it's not surprising that we're approaching that point. About half of the electricity in the United States is generated by burning coal.

So exactly how much do we have left?

Back in 1907, the USGS first said we had three trillion tons, or enough for 5,000 years. By the 1950s, we had 500 billion tons. By 2007, we have 250 years remaining.

Nowadays, experts argue there's far less. David Rutledge from the California Institute of Technology said in 2009 that he believes we have half that amount, which would work out to 120 years' worth.

And more than likely, the actual amount is less than Rutledge's best guess.

Peak coal by 2011?
Yep, there are new studies that existing coal mines will reach peak production as early as 2011, with peak production levels cut in half shortly thereafter.

But 2020 is more likely in my opinion, based on reserve to production ratios.

Tadeuaz W. Patzek and Gregory D. Croft, authors of a recent coal study published in the scientific journal Energy, find that coal production will decline after 2011. They believe mines won't be able to reverse that trend.

"It's unlikely that future mines will reverse the trend predicted in this scenario," according to the authors.

"The most important conclusion of this paper is that peak of global coal production from existing coalfields is imminent..."

That runs counter to current reserve estimates, which those researchers call overblown and based on data that's dated or unreliable, including recent studies from the World Coal Institute and the U.S. Energy Information Administration.

The World Coal Institute finds that the use of coal will rise 60% over the next 20 years, and that coal will last us 119 years. The U.S. Energy Information Administration finds that coal consumption will grow 50% by 2035.

But Patzek doesn't believe it. He maintains the world will finish off the easy-to-reach coal of higher quality, and what remains will often be lower quality stuff that's much harder to dig up and deliver.
(Sound familiar?)

Global peak coal findings
South Africa may have already reached peak production, according to research.

The chairman of the Association for the Study of Peak Oil (ASPO), Jeremy Wakeford:

It is commonly believed that South Africa has abundant coal reserves which will last 200 years or more. But recent research [from] three scientific journals suggests that usable reserves are much smaller than previously thought, and that annual production could reach a peak and begin to decline within a decade — or might even have peaked already.

Richard Heinberg, author of Blackout, explains in his book that coal figures out of the United States are misleading because the quality of the coal is uneven.

If production continues to increase in volume, the coal will decrease in energy value.

Worse, researchers are already finding exhaustion of high quality coal in Pennsylvania... and they expect for production in West Virginia to soon fall off.

In China, reserves were estimated to contain 200 billion tons in 1930. That has since been cut to 114.5 billion tons by 1992. According to Heinberg, the problem is that China suffers from weak productivity, thanks to disastrous working conditions.

The bottom line here is we are nearing peak coal, and must find other sources of energy to replace it.
Link -
http://www.energyandcapital.com/articles/peak-coal-theory/1284

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Oct 3rd, 2010 at 11:24am
Analysis: Soaring Chinese economy at odds with climate goals

Just last year experts at the International Energy Agency proposed a target for China's carbon emissions to peak in 2020 before declining if the world were to be saved from devastating climate change. Too late now.

Figures from energy firm BP showed earlier this year that Chinese emissions will steamroll through the Paris-based IEA's 2020 peak target next year, nearly a decade early, with no sign of slowing down.

China already emits a quarter of the world's CO2, the main gas contributing to global warming, making it the world's top emitter ahead of the United States. Its emissions have more than doubled since 2000.

The IEA's suggested target for China of 8.4 billion tonnes of CO2 per year by 2020, which would then fall, is in line with most other research for a safe peak, said Michel den Elzen at the Netherlands Environmental Assessment Agency.

But the latest figures released by BP and den Elzen's agency in June show China will hit that figure in a matter of months, rather than over the next decade.

"They are hitting that level earlier than expected because of their rapid growth the last decade," den Elzen said. "For meeting a 2-degrees target (of increasing global temperatures) such a high emissions rate is definitely bad news."

Instead, its focus is on reducing "carbon intensity" -- the amount of the main greenhouse gas, carbon dioxide (CO2), emitted for each dollar of economic activity. It plans to reduce this by 40-45 percent by 2020 compared to 2005.

But even with such big efficiency gains, China's expected rapid economic growth will push its absolute volume of emissions to between 9.6 and 10.1 billion tonnes of CO2 per year by 2020, compared with 5.2 billion tonnes in 2005, according to a study from the Chinese Academy of Sciences.

Its emissions rose about 9 percent last year, faster than any other major economy.
Link -
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE68T3BM20100930?pageNumber=2
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China can say what it wants, but so long as it keeps growing at 9% + annually & building another Coal power station EACH WEEK, there is no way their GHG emissions will do anything, other than go thru the roof!

Btw, the IEA's suggested CO2 target for China in 2020, is nearly as large as the entire Global emissions, TODAY!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Oct 5th, 2010 at 7:58pm
Peak Oil & The Four Futures – Tim Hudson

Part 1 of 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoq_NQjfZu8&feature=player_embedded

Part 2 of 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtYBonDRKu4&feature=related

What will be our future after peak oil? How will our jobs, lives, and the overall economy be impacted? In this 20 minute presentation, expert peak oil educator Tim Hudson defines the four futures after peak oil, and explains how to create a personal post peak oil profile by assigning probabilities to the four scenarios. Personal peak oil profiles are useful in both assessing one’s own current expectations for the future as well as better understanding the beliefs and expectations of others. Tim Hudson created this talk drawing from many sources including peak oil books written by Richard Heinberg.
Link -
http://www.wallstreetstocks.net/peak-oil-the-four-futures-tim-hudson-part-1-of-2-2
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Not a patch on Lord Monckton as a presenter/speaker, but the are a few areas of interest.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by Amadd on Oct 5th, 2010 at 10:11pm
I must admit that I once thought that a relatively smooth transition from fossils to renewables was very possible.
The King would offer 1000 sovereigns of gold to anybody who could make that eventuate, and another 2 for a cancer cure.

Energy in vs. energy out economics is deteriorating whilst energy demand and the global impact of fossil fuels continue to grow exponentially.
It's gonna be a hella collision.

With all of our wisdom and "know how", it seems to have already stalled.
I remember when I did a skydive and my feet were running in mid-air searching for the ground below, the instuctor said " Just about everybody does that on their first jump nomatter how well they've been trained, until they get used to nothing being there".

It's a whole new paradigm at our doorstep alright.








Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Oct 10th, 2010 at 10:05pm
There was a point in time, when Alaskan Oil was going to be the great saviour of US Oil production.



And, all that Alaska meant was 2,000 barrels per day at its Peak of Production, which has now dropped to just above 600 bpd.

All this compared to a US Oil Consumption of 20 Million barrels per day!

Makes you wonder what the new saviours will actually produce?

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Oct 11th, 2010 at 9:27pm
Summary of annual meeting of the Association for the Study of Peak Oil-USA (ASPO-USA)

This week I attended the meeting of the US chapter of the Association for the Study of Peak Oil and Gas (ASPO-USA) in Washington, D.C. (http://www.aspousa.org/worldoil2010/). What is interesting about this meeting is the range of backgrounds of the individuals that attend and speak. There were practicing and academic economists, persons working in the oil and gas industry, ecologists, a congressman (Roscoe Bartlett), and a Navy admiral (Lawrence Rice). With all of these backgrounds, the basic consensus of the group is that oil production is in fact peaking now as production has been within 5% of the same level of production around 83 to 85 million barrels per year over the last five years, and will begin to irreversibly decline within the next five years. Additionally, the current economic downturn and high unemployment levels are directly tied to the precipitous rise in oil price from 2003 to summer of 2008.

Simply put, the world economy, and primarily that of the US and the rest of the OECD, could not afford and is not structured to function in a world of oil price > $100/BBL. Southeast Asia is growing up in an oil economy as it peaks out, but they are adjusting from transport systems such as scooters and bicycles. Additionally, as Jeff Rubin (http://www.jeffrubinssmallerworld.com/meet-jeff/) likes to point out (and he’s a good speaker), the OPEC exporting countries are consuming oil at a faster rate than anyone because they keep their prices artificially low (Iran, Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, etc.). Thus, if the Asian economies have to go back soon to lower oil consumption, the adjustment won’t be that drastic. Additionally, the OPEC countries will just export less without imposing anything close to market price on their citizens - a necessity to maintain order. On the other hand, the OECD countries will have a hard time adjusting, and this adjustment of the economy will probably take at least a decade. Think about people in the suburbs of the USA going to carpooling, then trying to move closer in to cities or out of urban life altogether, subsequently leaving some abandoned lots in surburbia with which the remaining inhabitants can use for suburban farming. This is not such a bad outcome depending upon your world outlook. But as Jeff Rubin pointed out this past week (and in his book), this is how the world will get smaller. Oil simply gets too expensive to “lubricate” world transportation of goods and raw materials that is necessary for much of globalized trade.

The opinion of more and more “mainstream” organizations are accepting the reality of peak oil production. Widely mentioned and quoted at the conference was a report by the US military from the Joint Chiefs of Staff: the Joint Operating Environment (JOE) (http://www.jfcom.mil/newslink/storyarchive/2010/JOE2010o.pdf), and I quote a few passages here:

“Peak Oil As the figure at right shows, petroleum must continue to satisfy most of the demand for energy out to 2030. Assuming the most optimistic scenario for improved petroleum production through enhanced recovery means, the development of non-conventional oils (such as oil shales or tar sands) and new discoveries, petroleum production will be hard pressed to meet the expected future demand of 118 million barrels per day.”

“By 2012, surplus oil production capacity could entirely disappear, and as early as 2015, the shortfall in output could reach nearly 10 MBD.”

These statements are strong support for the oncoming peak oil scenario, but the rest of the section on energy does little to make me think that the JOE report is going too far on a limb due to the caveats and continuing discussion of possible 100 million barrel per day (MMBBL/d) production in the future. If you are a real peak oil person, then you believe we’re at the peak now near 85 MMBBL/d.

On the notion of other fossil fuels, there was a good presentation on the “true” economics and production levels from natural gas shales from Arthur Berman - who has often presented interpretations of well data and financial statements that support his view that is quite contrary to the shale gas producers. Presentations from David Rutledge and David Summers regarding much less coal production (and hence CO2 emissions from coal) than used for emissions scenarios (so-called SRES) for the various Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) climate model simulations. The data are compelling, and along with the recent paper from Tad Patzek on the soon-to-peak world coal production (i.e. 2011). Granted there were audience members who greatly disagreed that we are anywhere near peak coal production, and obviously we do not precisely know the speed of development of new coal mining areas. However, I’d say the evidence is leaning toward a near term peak coal scenario given the remoteness and coal quality of some virgin coal field locations (e.g. lignite in Eastern Siberia).[/b]Link -
http://environmentalresearchweb.org/blog/2010/10/summary-of-annual-meeting-of-t.html
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Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by Amadd on Oct 12th, 2010 at 10:20am
The above graph shows an obvious nessecity to invade other nations for oil.

Where does the necessity for Iraqi freedom come in?




Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Oct 12th, 2010 at 1:24pm

Amadd wrote on Oct 12th, 2010 at 10:20am:
The above graph shows an obvious nessecity to invade other nations for oil.

Where does the necessity for Iraqi freedom come in?


Can I suggest that places Iraqi freedom just behind the US "desire/want/need" for Oil?

Can I also suggest that the necessity for Iraqi freedom, is of slightly less importance than the freedom of citizens in Iran, Venezuela, the UAE, Saudi Arabia & a few countries!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Oct 13th, 2010 at 8:25pm
Peak Oil Experts Fear Big New U.S. Job Losses, Economic Downturn

Former CIBC chief economist Jeff Rubin predicted oil production declines ranging soon from 2 to 6% annually. This, he said, will double or triple oil prices on the market, creating economic slow-downs and job losses beyond those of the recent recession. His Toronto Globe and Mail column last week on this was entitled, “We have run out of oil we can afford to burn‎.”

Regarding issues more specific to oil production, several speakers cited a U.S. Department of Defense study that predicts worldwide peak oil in 2015.

Thus, the only federal politician on the speaker program was U.S. Rep. Roscoe Bartlett of a Maryland, the second-ranking Republican on the House Armed Services Committee.  A member also of the congressional Peak Oil Caucus, Dr. Bartlett is a former professor and scientist.

“Just about everyone understands peak oil now, from major oil companies to academics to the environmental community,” Baldauf said. “It’s an endowment of energy that has taken hundreds of millions of years to accumulate and we’ve ripped through about half of it in 150 years.”

Some predicted gas lines similar to those in the 1970s after OPEC embargoes but of much longer duration, along with further U.S. job losses as companies reduced production. Predictions for the rest of the world included warnings that emerging economies in China and India would use their funding for a larger share of the available fuel, thereby ramping up gas-station prices in the U.S. at least to current world levels of $7 a gallon and higher, and that have-not Third World nations would face desperate food-production and other calamities.
Link -
http://ctwatchdog.com/2010/10/12/peak-oil-experts-fear-big-new-u-s-job-losses-economic-downturn
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It is of interest that the only Politician attending this ASPO Conference was a Republican!

Republicans as a rule, do not believe in things such as Peak Oil & Climate Change, but Bartlett is a former Professor & Scientist, so perhaps he understands the issues a little more than the standard Conservative Republican.  

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Oct 13th, 2010 at 8:42pm
Peak Oil Causes Global Recession, Depression

Clips featuring Colin Campbell, Richard Heinberg, Julian Darley, etc. Oil is used for everything. When we reach maximum production, that is a very significant point. Global oil production will peak, and everything will change. Less and less oil fields are being discovered. New oil is found in smaller pockets. 4/5 of oil being consumed was found before 1970. Norway, Britain UK, and Norway have all passed their nation’s peak. The world consumes three times as much oil as we are finding. 53 countries are producing less oil now than in the past. We expend about 10 Calories of fossil fuel energy for every Calorie of food energy produced. This is unsustainable. Global hunger and famine could be a result of peak oil. Economic contraction will most likely result from peak oil. A perception of a contraction economy will itself cause a contraction. This could cause the second great depression.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYmnriCJ18I&feature=player_embedded

Link -
http://www.health71.com/20101012/peak-oil-causes-global-recession-depression/
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The peception that Peak Oil is here, does not require Public acceptance to cause a dramatic Economic Contraction, it only requires acceptance of a small percentage at the top of the Establishment, which would in turn cause a stampede of the herd!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by Amadd on Oct 14th, 2010 at 5:36pm

Quote:
The peception that Peak Oil is here, does not require Public acceptance to cause a dramatic Economic Contraction, it only requires acceptance of a small percentage at the top of the Establishment, which would in turn cause a stampede of the herd!


Yeah, that's how it will happen I'm sure.
I was having a discussion about this topic at a BBQ the other week, and not surprisingly, the general concensus was that there is more oil around than they're letting on and if it's such a problem, they'd be doing something about it.
Nothing will change at the ground level. I haven't changed anything, I don't really know what I can do to change anything besides opting for solar power, which I would've done regardless.




Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Oct 18th, 2010 at 4:51pm
US Association For The Study Of Peak Oil (US-ASPO) Conference Thoughts: Listen To These Folks

Chris Martenson -
what a great presenter! Great popularizer, but still very empirical. Fantastic at boiling it down to the key convincing information and seeing the big pictures.
Takeway: Find a way to follow this guy's works. He claims there is a relationship between the economy and energy and that energy is the key input to the economy. He claims peak coal in 2030. Integrates fiat, fractional reserve money system where money is loaned into existence with Peak Oil. The money system requires continued GDP growth which it has been getting from cheap oil-based energy (whose consumption has been growing at roughly an exponential rate). He claims that bad and unexpected things are bound to happen as oil-based energy cannot continue to grow and thus the fiat money system can no longer grow. The money system will have to change. The money system is a complex non-linear system and is inherently unpredictable. Martenson answers the question: "How did we get two bubbles in one decade: Internet and Housing" when ordinarily they come at least a generation apart" with the answer: "They are really one big credit-expansion bubble which hasn't blown up yet". Financial markets do not change gradually and some kind of fundamental change is about to happen.
Takeway: I've got to get more liquid so that I can change course when the big changes hit.


Dr. Robert Hirsch, Senior Energy Advisor, MISI -
Seems to have the best overall view (and makes the best overall case) that Peak Oil is significant and what its implications are.
Takeway:
Hisch makes a strong empirical case that oil consumption correlates with world GDP 1 to 1 (1% GDP growth correlates with 1% oil consumption growth) and that with Peak Oil we might very well be looking at a 4% fall in oil (and GDP) for at least a decade (that's a more than 40% drop in world GDP!!!).
Link -
http://www.worldofwallstreet.us/2010/10/us-assocation-for-the-study-of-peak-oil-us-aspo-conference-thoughts-part-1.html

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Oct 19th, 2010 at 9:35pm
I don't think that the importance of the Import/Own Production figures can be overlooked.
In the short space of 40 years, the US own Production Declined from 9.5 Billion bpd to 5 Billion bpd, whilst Imports went from 1 Billion bpd to 10 Billion bpd.
That's a combined turnaround of 13.5 Billion bpd, in 40 years and that includes every President saying that the US must wean itself off of imported Oil, which includes President Carters dire words.


Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Oct 26th, 2010 at 11:27am
When will Peak Oil arrive? How will it effect us? and can Green Energy save us?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMe3-D8-jhc&feature=player_embedded#!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Oct 26th, 2010 at 10:40pm

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by Amadd on Oct 26th, 2010 at 11:12pm
I don't care, I'm gettin' solar panels (all controlled by electricity companies of course) and I'll be able to produce enough power for my electric scooter to ride to the milk bar and back once a week, if I don't need the lights on at night that is  ;D

Too bad my place of work won't fair so well. They probably won't pay me if they can't operate, but jeez I'm glad we have the dole to save us all  :D









Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Oct 28th, 2010 at 9:18pm
Peak Oil — Where Do We Stand?

On October 14, 2010, Aaron Task interviewed Chris Martenson at Yahoo's Tech Ticker (video below). Martenson, fresh off of attending ASPO-USA's annual peak oil conference, told Aaron that "conventional oil" peaked "around 2005." Aaron had no way to assess this statement, so he ran with it. It was then that I decided to write this post in a futile attempt to get everybody on the same page about future oil production.

IMHO, anybody with a vested interest in the world's future oil supply—that would be almost everybody on Earth—should read this post. Realistically, my expectations are somewhat lower

First things first. Conventional oil refers to crude oil plus lease condensate according to the Energy Information Agency (EIA). That's as good a definition as any, and I will use EIA data today.  All liquids refers to conventional oil taken together with natural gas liquids, refinery gains and biofuels, but today I will stick with conventional oil. In July, 2010 the world produced 73.691 million barrels per day (b/d) of conventional oil. The all-liquids total for that month was 86.474 million b/d. You can see that conventional oil by far makes up the largest share of the total liquids supply. When I refer to just "oil" in the text below, I mean conventional oil as defined by the EIA.

Chris' claim that conventional oil peaked around 2005 is false. If anything, conventional oil production peaked in July, 2008 or the first half of 2008 (see the graph and caption below).

http://peakwatch.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83452403c69e20133f560fed3970b-800wi

The EIA estimates that OPEC's spare (unused) capacity is about 5 million b/d right now in 2010 (and this doesn't change in 2011). Any increase in demand requires that new supply be taken from this capacity. The main problem is that Saudi Arabia has almost all the spare capacity!

http://peakwatch.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83452403c69e20133f56137ba970b-800wi

And then there is the trust issue. Clearly, the Saudis have exaggerated the size of their recoverable reserves as I demonstrated in OPEC Will Never Run Out Of Oil. Can we trust their spare capacity numbers?

Where do we stand? Peak oil does not mean the end of the world as we know it in the medium-term—the next 5 years or so depending on how the global economy fares—but in the longer term things don't look so good. Some say Iraq will increase its output by several million barrels per day in the next decade, but that's a very risky proposition.

Our utter dependence on the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia to meet our future supply needs poses a significant threat to the global economy. Moreover, it's a disgrace that the world has allowed such dangerous risks to pile up without adequate preparation for a future it was not hard to see coming.

Here's the Martenson video.
(video is available on link)

http://www.declineoftheempire.com/2010/10/peak-oil-where-do-we-stand.html
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A couple of observations -
1) I am of the opinion that Oil Production did "effectively" Peak in 2005, as it has since failed to keep up with either Demand & Population Growth!

2) There are strong suggestions that the Saudi spare capacity is unlikely, for any more than a limited duration, particularly given the reported declines in the Ghawar fields (the worlds biggest), the Saudi announcement that they will start offshore exploration and the Saudi announcement that they will go into local Nuclear power.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by Amadd on Oct 29th, 2010 at 10:43am
If we are trusting in the Saudi's word, then that's our fault. We'll get, or not get, what we deserve.

If we are trusting in our governments to tell us when oil has run out, then that's our fault.



Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Oct 31st, 2010 at 5:02pm

Amadd wrote on Oct 29th, 2010 at 10:43am:
If we are trusting in the Saudi's word, then that's our fault. We'll get, or not get, what we deserve.

If we are trusting in our governments to tell us when oil has run out, then that's our fault.


Agreed!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Nov 1st, 2010 at 4:35pm
The peak oil debate is over

May I start with a bromide: a resource which is finite is not inexhaustible. If you think that over, it should not be a revelation. That was a bromide… some people think a keynote should never rise above a bromide….

Some five years ago in Italy I concluded a talk by saying that like the inhabitants of Pompeii, who ignored the neighboring volcano, Vesuvius, until it detonated, the world ignores the possibility of peak oil at its peril.

Two years ago in addressing ASPO in Cork, Ireland, I argued that the peakists had won the intellectual argument, except for some minor details about precise timing, but that by and large everyone recognized that there were limits on our capacity to increase the production of crude oil as we have steadily since World War Two.

[I also argued] that peakists were no longer a beleaguered minority, that they had won, and that consequently they should be gracious in victory.

There’s an old spiritual that is relevant here. The walls of those who doubted the peak seemed to be impregnable. Nonetheless, you marched around the walls seven times and then blew the trumpets and the walls of Jericho came tumbling down.

But acceptance by knowledgeable people is not enough. The political order should respond. Nonetheless, our willingness, let alone our ability, to do anything serious about the impending inability to increase oil output is still a long way off.

The political order responds to what the public believes today, not to what it may come to believe tomorrow. It is also resistant to any action that inflicts pain or sacrifice on those who vote. The payoff in politics comes from reassurance, perhaps precluded by a rhetorical challenge.

Still, the challenge is clear in both logic and in the evidence. Let me start briefly with the logic,

If something cannot be sustained, it will eventually not be sustained… ultimately it will shrink.

Secondly, you cannot produce oil unless you first discover it (a contribution by Colin Campbell).

Third, a resource that is finite cannot continually have its production increased.

What is the evidence?

First, we remain heavily dependent on super-giant and giant oilfields discovered in the 50s and 60s of the last century… I might add, of the last millennium. Only rarely in recent decades have discoveries equaled production. Mostly, it’s been one barrel discovered for every three barrels produced.

Second, old super-giants like Burgan in Kuwait and [Cantarell] in Mexico have gone into decline earlier than had been anticipated… and going into decline have been Alaska, the North Sea, western Siberia and the like.

Third, while it is not yet “Twilight in the Desert” (as you may have read) still we are well into the afternoon, even in Saudi Arabia. Even the Ghawar oilfield is increasingly hard to sustain.

Fourth, in 2004 we experienced our first demand-driven price spike, as opposed to the previous price spikes driven by supply interruptions. We still operate at about the level of production capacity of 2004.

Next, given projected decline curves running from 4 to 6 percent, and the projected increase in demand during the next quarter century, we shall require the new capacity equivalence of five Saudi Arabias.

Note that it is conventional oil: that is all that Hubbert talked about. Somewhat disingenuously, the debate has been turned on him by talking about fuel liquids in general, throwing in tar sands, heavy oil, coal liquids, oil shale and so on.

But clearly, large conventional oil production is increasingly no longer part of the future unless there is a technological breakthrough, which Mr. Gilbert talked about just a few moments ago, raising the ultimate recovery rate from existing fields, which at this moment we cannot expect.

Of course, there are uncertainties which make timing predictions with regard to the peak risky. Iraq, which has been held back for a variety of reasons, may come along as one of those five new needed Saudi Arabias.

Offshore Brazil and offshore oil elsewhere are promising. Shale gas, which is apparently coming in abundance (but is not, of course, oil) may somewhat alleviate the pressures on liquid fuels.

But in general we must expect to get along without what has been our critical energy source in expanding the world’s economy for more than half a century.

Can the political order face up to the challenge? There is no reason for optimism.

We are likely to see pseudo-solutions, misleading alternatives and sheer sloganeering: “energy independence,” “getting off foreign oil” and the like. All of that sheer sloganeering we have seen to this point.

The political order (which abhors political risk) tends to rely on the Biblical prescription, “Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.”
Link -
http://energybulletin.net/stories/2010-10-30/peak-oil-debate-over
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For those who may not be aware, Dr. James Schlesinger served as Chairman of the Atomic Energy Commission (1971-73), Secretary of Defense (1973-75), Director of the CIA and was the first Secretary of Energy (1977-79), in the USA. His experience therefore, comes at the highest relevant levels.

Whilst he is not one of the worlds great speakers, you would think given his background that he comes from a position of insider knowledge, that some of his points are, indeed, salient!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Nov 2nd, 2010 at 8:19pm
US Coal to Gasoline Plant Will be the Largest in the World

TransGas Development Systems, LLC announced an agreement with SK Engineering & Construction Co., Ltd (SKE&C) leading to engineering, procurement and construction of its first US coal-to-gasoline plant—Adams Fork Energy—to be located in Mingo County, West Virginia. _GCC

US coal deposits contain 12 X as much energy as all known oil in Saudi Arabia. The gasification process to be used in the new West Virginia CTL plant could cleanly utilise coals of any grade -- including the cheapest and dirtiest coal. By moving US coal reserves into the liquid fuels arena, the prospects for peak oil continue to remain slight -- unless the Obama administration decides to shut down all coal, even clean coal projects. Obama has promised to bankrupt coal companies, and all his other policies are consistent with an "energy starvation" approach to shutting down US industrial production. Time will tell.

The Adams Fork Energy project will convert regional coal into premium-grade gasoline, producing 18,000 barrels per day (756,000 gallons US, 2.86 million liters). When fully developed, the Adams Fork project will be the largest coal-to-gasoline project in the world, according to Adam Victor, President and CEO of TransGas Development Systems.

The project team has been issued a permit to construct by the West Virginia Department of Environmental Protection and plans to begin work on the site during the second quarter of 2011.

The plant will have several process components. First, coal is gasified to produce synthesis gas, using Uhde PRENFLO PDQ gasifiers. The synthesis gas will then be cleaned to remove impurities, turning most into marketable byproducts. Next, the synthesis gas will be converted into methanol, which in turn will be converted into gasoline utilizing ExxonMobil Research and Engineering Company’s (EMRE) MTG process. During the operation of the integrated facility, air emissions are expected to be so low that it will qualify as a minor source under US law.
Link -
http://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/US-Coal-to-Gasoline-Plant-Will-be-the-Largest-in-the-World.html
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A few observations -
1) The current US Oil consumption is around 20 Million bpd (Barrels per Day).
2) Large scale Coal to Gas plants, even one, would have an immediate upwards impact on Coal & Power pricing.
3) If sufficient Coal to Gas plants were brought online, to make some realistic impact, then the Coal Peak could be brought forward by decades.
4) There is no such thing as a clean Coal to Gas process!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Nov 2nd, 2010 at 8:54pm
The coming liquid fuel crisis

We face a liquid fuel crisis in two to five years. That was the stark message from an international conference on peak oil in Washington DC that I attended last month.

It will be far worse than the 1973 and 1979 oil shocks that induced panic, disorientation and insecurity. Back then stock market declines followed big hikes in fuel prices. This time we can expect ever-rising fuel prices accompanied by annually deepening recession, increasing inflation and unemployment, and a decline in world trade.

Last time, the crises resolved themselves as oil production and trade were resumed. This time, there will not be enough oil to resume business as usual. Despite a decrease in demand from OECD countries, overall demand continues to rise as global population climbs inexorably from 6.8 towards 9.2 billion and newly emerging economies expect their share of the global resource pie. Come 2015, however, we can anticipate a significant increase in the price of oil as global production starts its inevitable decline. Production of regular or conventional oil has already peaked while supplies of unconventional oil - heavy, deepwater and Arctic oil - will peak within a few years.

"We're drillin' three miles down in the Gulf of Mexico because of peak oil," drawled Jim Baldauf, former Texan oilman and organiser of the conference. "We're scrapin' the bottom of the barrel, so to speak. We have to drill twice as deep at twice the cost to get half what we're used to."

The recent Deepwater Horizon spill in the Gulf was a rude awakening to those who thought drilling for unconventional oil was going to be easy. And it's not cheap to produce oil from unconventional sources - the price needs to be $100 a barrel to make it worthwhile. But as Chris Skrebowski , a leading expert on global oil supply, asked: "Can we afford this price? Where is the price that allows everyone to be employed? Europe already has 10 per cent unemployment."

Like it or not, $100 a barrel is what we can expect, or worse. Another leading oil analyst Jeff Rubin laid it on the line: "We can expect triple-digit oil next year."

A peak in oil production does not mean the end of oil, nor indeed of energy supplies. But oil is the energy source that all others are measured against. The coming oil crisis is largely a crisis in transportation since oil products power 95 per cent of land transport. Skrebowski felt that only when we take oil out of transport could we hope to see a solution. Otherwise, as Rubin notes: "We have to get off the road".

Anthony Perl, author of Transport Revolutions, said we will see a major redesign of our transport within 10 years. In order to survive this "mother of all energy crises", we need to fast track mobility systems that can perform without oil. The most promising developments are electric motors replacing the internal combustion engine; greater use of rail and water replacing road and air; and greater use of collectively managed travel.

A lot of solutions are already out there, according to Perl, for example, high speed rail (HSR) for up to 500 miles (800 kms) though this will soon increase to 1000 miles (1600kms). China is currently building 12,000 miles of HSR that will double the world's capacity and in turn reduce the price by 50per cent. "Sky sail" technology can reduce a ship's oil use by 50-80 per cent. Electric railways are already a proven technology - the Trans-Siberian is a case in point.

Planes and trucks, however, which cannot run at scale without oil will see the most radical changes. New priorities, new skills and new priorities are needed. We need a Transportation Redevelopment Agency, according to Perl, that will anticipate future technologies and modes of transport; develop strategies for deploying those modes; and determine how to fund them.

What then is the future of air transport? Charles Schlumberger, principal air transport specialist at the World Bank, noted that oil is already the biggest cost for airlines. Nevertheless, the air industry is looking at significant fleet replacement, especially in the Asia-Pacific. Air transport has been a catalyst for world economic development and is a crucial part of trade, globalization and foreign investment. Thus if air transport shrinks because of oil prices, it will have a significant impact and accelerate recession.

Australia imports 40 per cent of its oil. We are not immune from the coming oil crunch. Perhaps it was apocryphal, but the story goes that Opposition leader Tony Abbott was overheard saying to an adviser at the beginning of the year: "Peak Oil? Do we know about Peak Oil?"
Let's hope our new Prime Minister does know and acts accordingly.

Link -
http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=11171
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There is always hope, but I wouldn't bank on either of the major party's, they both blocked a parliamentry enquiry!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Nov 6th, 2010 at 8:19pm
Nicole “Stoneleigh” Foss: “Expect Next Phase Of Market Crash And A Large One For That Matter…”

Nicole Foss alias Stoneleigh – the co-editor-in-chief of the blog The Automatic Earth, together with Ilargi – is one of a few „big picture“ persons and it was a delightful experience to meet her at ASPO peak oil conference. For her, business-as-usual is not an option and current form of capitalism is a Ponzi scheme. She is clear about peak oil (it is here and renewables will not come to the rescue!), but she is even much more clear about financial markets – they will make everything worse. The next phase of debt-deflation and final bubble bursting will hinder future investments in energy sector. In the short term oil prices will go down, not up, as probably most of peak oil energy analysts expect. Unless we are in debt, nothing is solved, and she says that Paul Krugman is a monetarist whose recommendations will make nothing better (except maybe prolonging the life of banks – which is not good either). One planet for her would be not enough, but she hopes that that what she does justifies this. Decide for yourselves.

Alexander Ac: Here at ASPO-USA conference in Washington everybody seems to understand implications of energy scarcity. What would be your message to a lay person? What are the main implications of peak oil for the daily life?

Stoneleigh: We are going to have to get used to a much lower energy lifestyle. Energy has been cheap for a very long time, so we have developed a structural dependency on it. Energy is not going to be cheap for much longer though, and that means many of the things we take for granted will no longer be affordable. A much larger proportion of our income will have to go to energy costs, and that will leave very much less for everything else. Our material standard of living will fall, and we will have to go back to performing many functions with human energy rather than fossil fuel energy.

The wealthy may still have access to fossil fuels, but if most people do not, then they will not be able to live a modern life. A life fuelled by human energy alone is one where people have to spend an enormous amount of time performing everyday tasks, and will not have time to undertake much of a role in the wider economy. Some family members will have to stay at home and devote all their time to household tasks that will take far longer than we are used to.

AA: When did you first see the term “peak oil” and when did you realize it might be a problem?

Stoneleigh: I used to work at the Oxford Institute for Energy Studies, which is primarily an oil and gas institute, back in the 1990s. I worked on electricity, but most of my colleagues were involved in fossil fuels. There were many discussions about the upstream, meaning where oil is coming from, and that fact that it is finite. It was clear that supply would be a problem at some point, although when I was there, oil prices were very low ($10/barrel), so no one thought it would be an imminent problem. I began to look into energy returned on energy invested (net energy) and realized the problem would be much closer at hand in net energy terms, and that we would see major declines in my lifetime.

AA: Why is that most of the economists do not recognize the role of energy in economy?

Stoneleigh: Energy is invisible, and therefore taken for granted. Most economists do not recognize resource limits at all, partly because they do not understand the laws of thermodynamics. They live in a world of substitutions when something becomes scarce, and do not understand that energy is the master resource for which there are no substitutes.

Economists typically say that there are no limits, only price. If something is scarce, it will cost more, but we will never run out. I think this misses the tremendous impact on a society dependent not only on energy, but on cheap energy. All our modern infrastructure requires a steady supply of affordable energy to maintain it
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Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Nov 6th, 2010 at 8:22pm
Nicole “Stoneleigh” Foss: “Expect Next Phase Of Market Crash And A Large One For That Matter…” (Cont)

AA: What about alternatives or nuclear energy? People often say that if oil gets more expensive, alternatives are to be deployed. Is this flawed logic?

Stoneleigh: Alternatives to oil typically have a much lower energy returned on energy invested (EROEI), and are expensive, at a time when money will be very scarce. They also depend on the availability of cheap oil to produce them. These problems mean that it will be very difficult to provide anything like the energy we get from fossil fuels. Alternatives can help in small-scale niche applications, but they cannot solve the problem of running a society, especially an energy-intensive industrial society.

Alternatives generally do not scale up, for reasons of net energy, money and time. We do not even have the capacity to produce things like solar panels on a massive scale, and we have neither the time nor the money to build that capacity before our oil supplies decline, let alone build all the panels we would need as well. We have also allowed our grid infrastructure to age, to the point where much of it will need to be replaced.

As most alternatives produce electricity, we are very dependent on the grid. Unfortunately there is a large mismatch between renewable energy resource intensity, energy demand and grid capacity. That means far more grid investment would be required. We would also have t covert energy demand away from liquid fuels to electricity, and that will take a huge amount of time and money at a time when both will be in very short supply.

AA: Financial system seems to complicate the whole issue? In which way?

Stoneleigh: Financial crisis will make everything very much harder. We will have very little money in a deflationary world, and people will be highly risk averse. No one (individuals, companies and governments) will be wanting to spend at a time when future earnings are so uncertain, which will make it almost impossible to invest in the infrastructure changes we need to make in order to address energy crisis. With not enough to go around, people are unfortunately likely to waste efforts and resources fighting over what there is, rather than pooling scarce resources for the good of all. Financial crisis leads to social instability at a time when we most need to keep our heads and work together.

AA: Do you expect crash in stock markets? How serious it will be and what will be the main consequences?

Stoneleigh: Yes, I do expect a crash, and a very large one at that. I expect the larger trend to be down for several years. A lot of investments will fall a very long way in value, and where these investments have been used as collateral for borrowing, there will be knock-on consequences. We will see margin calls as values decline, and outstanding debt is now too high compared to the value of the asset, so that additional debt repayments have to be made. We are going to see a very large number of bankruptcies and many debt defaults. This will be a factor in crashing the money supply, leaving too little lubricant to run the engine of the economy.

AA: Debt seems to be large part of the problem. How large?

Stoneleigh: A massive debt bubble is the at the heart of the problem. It has been building for decades and is now far larger than any previous debt bubble in human history. Humanity periodically rediscovers leverage on a grand scale, after the lessons of the previous episode have mostly passed out of living memory. Expansions of credit and debt create the appearance of great wealth, but it is illusory (virtual). The obligations created are real though. People have expectations of being repaid, and they will not be, which will set up a grab for the underlying real wealth (collateral) which is nowhere near enough to go around. This is deflation, and its effects are very significant. Money will be scarce for a very long time.

AA: Still, some people say we should leave the solution of peak oil to the free market…?

Stoneleigh: The free market has a very short time horizon, while energy investments are long-term. In fact the time horizon of the free market is likely to shrink in the times of high risk that we are facing. No one will be making investments where there is no economic visibility, so returns are completely uncertain. Financing projects will be almost impossible. We are going to have to depend on public financing, but governments will have very little money and many more calls on their resources, so they will not be in a position to make many investments either.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Nov 6th, 2010 at 8:26pm
Nicole “Stoneleigh” Foss: “Expect Next Phase Of Market Crash And A Large One For That Matter…” (Cont)

AA: What does Paul Krugman (or others) get wrong? Should we listen to him (and spend more)?

Stoneleigh: No, we should not listen. Spending more will only dig us into an even deeper hole, and will not prevent the deflation that is coming. We need to become economically responsible and save. Of course this will accelerate the decline in economic activity, but this needs to happen. If we keep making the problem worse by spending, we will only have to face an even larger set of consequences later. It is better to let the house of cards fall and begin rebuilding once the toxic debt has been defaulted upon. The sooner that happens, the sooner we can begin to rebuild the trust and social cohesion that facilitate investments in the public good.

Mr Krugman is a monetarist, and does not understand the critical role of debt in setting up a deflationary collapse. Monetarists treat economies as machines governed by the laws of physics, rather than as formed of people. Machines can be controlled in order to produce predictable outcomes in ways that people cannot. Any human social construct will depend on the mechanisms of human social behaviour, and this is outside the monetarist model.

AA: We have created the most complex and interconnected civilization that ever existed on Earth. Does it make us more fragile or more vulnerable to resource exhaustion?

Stoneleigh: That makes us much more vulnerable, because we have so many more structural dependencies. The rate of change in both energy and finance is likely to be rapid enough that adaptation will be very difficult. We will not have time to adjust gradually, which means we face a significant dislocation.

Financial crisis is going to make resource depletion much harder to address, because we are not going to have the money to replace highly energy-dependent infrastructure. Doing so would be staggeringly expensive and would take a very long time even if we did have the money. As it is, we will be forced to conserve both money and resources by going without.

Socioeconomic complexity is very dependent on energy subsidy. With less energy, we will have to have a simpler society. Getting from here to there will be very painful though.

AA: Politics is another part of the problem. What should an honest politician do in an era of general decline? Should politicians acknowledge peak oil or try to “solve” it quietly.

Stoneleigh: That is a difficult question. Politicians never like to alarm people for fear of creating the very situations they are trying to avoid. Personally I think they should acknowledge the problem, as Jimmy Carter tried to do in the 1970s. That is a thankless task though. People do not like to see their politicians express challenging messages, especially messages with implications for their material standard of living. Hard times have very negative effects on the reputations of politicians, whatever they do or do not do, as people tend to blame their leaders for what happens to them, regardless of fault.

Ultimately, there can be no progress towards addressing the problem through the political process without public acceptance of the need to do so. However, events are going to overtake the political process anyway, and societies will be forced to change.

AA: How many politicians are ready to talk about peak oil?

Stoneleigh: I do not know of any who are prepared to talk about it. I do know quite a few are aware of it. Matt Simmons spent a lot of time explaining it to the previous administration in the US, who were oil men anyway.

The previous national liberal party leader in Canada, Stephane Dion, had read much of the literature on peak oil, but never addressed it during his tenure.

The military in several countries has been producing peak oil reports, and they would certainly have provided those to their political leadership before making them public. Still, politicians say nothing.


AA: Which countries in general are more adapted to post carbon future?

Stoneleigh: Countries with fewer structural dependencies on cheap energy should find adjustment much less painful. In other words, countries which have been poorer and less able to transition to what people typically consider a fully modern lifestyle over the last few decades may well find the future less difficult than wealthier countries. The more entrenched the dependencies, the more difficult the transition to a low-energy future will be.

Also, countries or regions with climates where there is less need for heating and cooling, and a longer growing season, should find a lower energy future easier to manage. An established tradition of family-scale farms should be a significant bonus, since the agri-business model is very vulnerable to both energy and financial shocks. Well developed renewable energy infrastructure should help, as should relatively localized economies which are less ‘plugged-in’ to globalization.

Ironically, the most economically efficient societies have the least ability to adapt, as buffers have often been trimmed to the bone already on cost grounds. That leaves them much less resilient than they would once have been. Jim Kunstler calls efficiency “the straightest path to the hell”, and it is this brittleness that he is referring to.


Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Nov 6th, 2010 at 8:39pm
Nicole “Stoneleigh” Foss: “Expect Next Phase Of Market Crash And A Large One For That Matter…” (Cont)

AA: Do You think that the more complex view of the world one has, the more pessimistic outcome?

Stoneleigh: Yes, because it becomes obvious that simplistic one-dimensional solutions will not work. We need to understand the world in all its complexity in order to understand what we need to do and why, but in doing so we realize the extent of our predicament.

AA: What will be the key economic trends in (eastern) Europe in the coming months?

Stoneleigh: All of the European periphery is going to face very significant difficulties. There is far too much debt, both public and private, and the austerity measures that will have to be imposed at some point in order to stay in the eurozone could well be political suicide for any domestic politician. I think this could break up the eurozone and cause a great deal of anger.

I think the speculators will have a field day with sovereign debt default risk in Europe, and that will greatly increase the cost of borrowing for many European countries. I think the effects will be very uneven, which sadly will sharpen regional disparities and inflame regional tensions further.

I think European unity has been a noble goal and I do not like to see it under threat, but unfortunately I think that is a very real possibility.

AA: How does your optimism or pessimism scale to the rest of the peak oil and financial community?

Stoneleigh: I am more pessimistic than most, because I am addressing a broader scope of difficulties than most. Few commentators really cover even both energy and finance, and fewer still discuss geopolitics, collective human behaviour, ecological carrying capacity, population, climate change, pollution, resilience etc. Each field represents challenges for all the others.


AA: Are you more or less pessimistic about the future than 5 years ago?

Stoneleigh: My position has not changed significantly. I have been aware of where we are heading for many more than five years.

AA: If everybody on Earth had your lifestyle, would one planet be enough?

Stoneleigh: No. I live in a highly industrialized country (Canada). Any kind of life that would be considered remotely normal in such a place is not sustainable. Even a deliberate attempt to simplify as much as possible in one’s personal life does not compensate for the over-consumption of the public and corporate spheres that are part of life here, whether one wants to be associated with them or not.

Also, I travel a great deal, and carry with me a number of electronic devices which allow me to function while on the road. This has a significant resource cost. I hope what I am doing justifies this.
Link -
http://peakoil.com/bussiness/nicole-stoneleigh-foss-expect-next-phase-of-market-crash-and-a-large-one-for-that-matter%E2%80%A6/
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Nicole appears to have a reasonable handle on many of the factors that are in play, but there are Demographic issues of Aging & Declining Global Population Growth that need to also be included!

I partially agree with Nicole regards Oil Pricing, but I believe it is likely to spike significantly upward first, then fall back significantly again, as the real Economy falls into a massive heap!

That said, at some point Oil Pricing will increase dramatically & stay there and Oil Scarcity will then come into play!

Meanwhile, the Establishment, the Economists & the Politicians will allow it to happen, as will we!
 

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Nov 10th, 2010 at 4:30pm


Why would anyone trust government/s &/or their public institutions?

Just look at the above EIA "Guesstihopes" of future Liquid fuels. Their rubbery figures have steadily been lowered each year!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Nov 19th, 2010 at 2:18pm
Peak coal in China

On November 17 the Wall Street Journal published an article discussing China and “Peak Coal” (China’s Coal Crisis):

“The idea of peak oil—the point at which global production reaches its maximum—has fixated the energy industry for years. Now, China is grappling with a new worry: peak coal. State-run media reported that Beijing is considering capping domestic coal output in the 2011-2015 period, partly because officials worry miners are running down reserves too quickly to meet the needs of a rapidly expanding economy.”

Conclusions concerning Chinese coal production:
Coal is very vital to China and decreasing exports, together with increasing import clearly show that they have a supply problem. But whether this is due to resource problems, production problems or infrastructure bottlenecks is hard to say yet. A more comprehensive study of the Chinese coal assets needs to be done.

The forecast estimates that Chinese coal production will reach a peak in 2020, perhaps even earlier if the reserves are backdated to 1992, when the last actual update took place, and corrected for cumulative production. So China might be very close to its maximum coal production unless the reserves are larger than reported or a significant amount of resources can be transformed into produced volumes in the near future. Unless something dramatic happens to the Chinese reserves the future production will very soon end up under reserve constraints.

Clearly there are problems with the Chinese coal market and future production but this needs to be investigated more in detail than is done here.


Link -
http://www.energybulletin.net/stories/2010-11-17/peak-coal-china
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Chinese growth over the last 20 years has been largely fueled by a growth in Coal Power Plants, which has in turn been fueled by a massive internal growth in Coal Production AND by imported Coal from the likes of Australia.

This growth has seen one new Coal Power plant per week, for some years, but that sort of growth can not continue and the Chinese will shortly be obliged by the laws of Supply & Demand to reign in their Growth.

If they (the Chinese), were smart (smarter than us), then they would USE UP as much Foreign (OZ & everywhere else, outside of China) Coal as they can, whilst restraining their own internal Production of Coal for future years.

Based on past & current evidence, it would take little persuasion (on behalf of the Chinese), to have Australia & Australian Coal producers fall over themselves, in a rush to supply China with Coal, at the cost of Australia quickly depleting its own supplies of Coal for future use!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by Amadd on Nov 19th, 2010 at 4:00pm

Quote:
If they (the Chinese), were smart (smarter than us), then they would USE UP as much Foreign (OZ & everywhere else, outside of China) Coal as they can, whilst restraining their own internal Production of Coal for future years.


..and if we were smart, we'd move towards renewables as far as possible and save our coal for a better price later on.




Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Nov 19th, 2010 at 4:31pm

Amadd wrote on Nov 19th, 2010 at 4:00pm:

Quote:
If they (the Chinese), were smart (smarter than us), then they would USE UP as much Foreign (OZ & everywhere else, outside of China) Coal as they can, whilst restraining their own internal Production of Coal for future years.


..and if we were smart, we'd move towards renewables as far as possible and save our coal for a better price later on.


Agreed!

However, the word agreed goes a long way towards explaining the reasons why we are not likely to take that smart approach.

And, primary amongst those reasons is -
A) GREED!

Btw, I would think that our primary use for our essential resources, at present, is to save them for our own future use. 

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by Amadd on Nov 19th, 2010 at 5:31pm

Quote:
Agreed!

However, the word agreed goes a long way towards explaining the reasons why we are not likely to take that smart approach.

And, primary amongst those reasons is -
A) GREED!

Btw, I would think that our primary use for our essential resources, at present, is to save them for our own future use.  


Agreed too.

That may be more likely than a government investing in the future only for a future government to sell it off and put tickets on themselves as being economic masters.

Unfortunately, our governments have less than 3yrs to prove themselves. It's up to us to demand with our ballot papers what we expect from them.
I think you already mentioned that one.


Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Nov 22nd, 2010 at 5:59pm
The Chinese Coal Monster - running out of puff

In July of this year I wrote a story called The Chinese Coal Monster drawing attention to the fact that China would soon account for 50% of global coal production and consumption. 10% per annum growth in Chinese coal is clearly unsustainable and I posed the question "How long can this go on?"

An article published in the Wall Street Journal earlier this week called China's Coal Crisis suggests the answer to this question is not much longer.

Let's begin with a few excerpts from the WSJ article:

State-run media reported that Beijing is considering capping domestic coal output in the 2011-2015 period, partly because officials worry miners are running down reserves too quickly to meet the needs of a rapidly expanding economy.

Imposing a cap would be significant as China's mining sector is already finding it hard to keep up with domestic coal demand, which has grown around 10% annually over the past decade.

So the cap has been set because the mining industry is finding it increasingly difficult to maintain and grow production.

In the three years to September 2010, Chinese companies spent $20.96 billion on overseas coal-sector acquisitions, according to Dealogic.

Even if no official limits are introduced, China can't keep growing coal output much beyond another decade, analysts say. The mining sector is constrained by chronic infrastructure bottlenecks, especially road and rail, and those coal deposits that are easiest to mine have already been tapped.

Experts are starting to predict when China's coal reserves will run out—a nightmare scenario in a country where 70% of its energy is derived from coal.

This is a key issue. China may well have vast reserves remaining, but these may be further away, deeper down, thinner seams and lower energy content, and at some point it just becomes impossible to achieve what you achieved the previous year when so many variables work against you.

Let's put the 3.6 to 3.8 Gt cap in perspective. In 2009, China produced 3050 million tonnes (3.05 Gt) coal (2010 BP statistical review of world energy). If that increases by 10% this year that will bring production to 3355 million tonnes already suggesting that the lower limit of the proposed cap may be reached in 2011 (next year). At this point it's worth noting that Patzec and Croft (2010) forecast peak coal production in 2011, which I and many other commentators thought was unduly pessimistic.

What I imagine we will see happening is that Chinese production growth in 2010 will be significantly less than 10% and we will see a plateau develop within the 3.6 to 3.8 Gt range in the period to 2015. Growth in Chinese coal production has underpinned their industrial revolution and an end to growth in their primary energy source poses risks to their and global economic growth. But the Chinese are enterprising people and I imagine they will manage their transition away from domestic coal by a combination of increasing dependence upon coal imports, improving energy efficiency of coal fired power stations, and rapid expansion of nuclear capacity.

The Chinese Coal MonsterPublished 12 July 2010

•China set to consume 50% of global coal production this year
•Production and consumption roughly in balance
•Coal imports used for stock pile growth?
•Consumption growing >10% year on year in line with economic growth
•Rest of world consumption declined 7% in 2009

Figure 1 Chinese coal consumption compared with the rest of the world.

How long can this go on?

Data
Data are taken from the 2010 BP statistical review of world energy - both a priceless but flawed resource. BP provide annual coal production figures in tonnes and tonnes oil equivalent (TOE) from 1981 and consumption figures in TOE only from 1965. Hence to make a production / consumption balance comparison it is necessary to use TOE. In China, 1 TOE is close to 2 tonnes coal - so simply double the TOE numbers to get at the approximate tonnages. Note that the energy content of coal varies by rank and from region to region and conversion factors to TOE vary from 1.5 to 3.

The coal monster
Like everything else in China, coal production statistics are simply immense. China now consumes and produces close to 50% of all the coal in the world. Thus, changes in Chinese consumption and / or production may have a dramatic impact upon the global coal market.

Figure 2 Since 1965, China has steadily increased its percentage share of global coal consumption and looks set to account for 50% of global coal consumption this year. Virtually all consumption is met from Chinese domestic coal production (Figure 3)



Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Nov 22nd, 2010 at 6:05pm
The Chinese Coal Monster - running out of puff (Cont)

Coal production and consumption are in balance
In light of press stories describing rapid growth in Chinese coal imports, I was both surprised and puzzled when I plotted the Chinese coal production and consumption data and saw that these have always been roughly in balance (Figure 3). I sent the chart around the TOD email list and copied to Professor Dave Rutledge at Cal Tech. It was DaveR who came up with a possible explanation.

DaveR pointed out that in countries like the UK, coal stock piles equivalent to roughly 4 months consumption are maintained. If China does similar then stock piles will be around one third of 3 Gt equal to 1 Gt. With consumption growing at 12% in 2009, stock pile growth would need to be around 120 Mt to maintain the 4 month buffer. China People's Daily reported that Chinese net coal imports were 104 Mt in 2009 - barely sufficient to maintain stock pile growth.

Figure 3 Despite stories of ballooning coal imports, China produces as much coal as it consumes. It seems imports merely contribute to domestic coal stock piles.

Global coal trade
The top 20 coal producers account for 98% and the top 5 producers account for 79% of global coal production. It is therefore possible to get a handle on global coal trade by looking at the top few producers. China as we have already seen is roughly in production / consumption balance, and India is a major importer of coal. The main export nations are the USA, FSU, Australia, Indonesia and South Africa. Looking at the production / consumption balance of these 5 nations shows an export surplus of 450 million TOE (roughly 900 million tonnes coal). Chinese coal imports of 100 Mt therefore account for roughly 11% of global coal trade (contrary to the People's daily report) - and that is just to maintain stockpiles!


Figure 4 The top 20 coal producers. The dashed grey line marks approximate zero growth for the last decade. All the growth in coal supplies comes from the nations above that line with growth dominated by China with contributions from India and Indonesia.


Figure 5 The global export market is dominated by 5 nations. Export growth has come mainly from Australia and Indonesia.

Threat to global economy
Should China ever fail to match coal consumption with indigenous production then 1 of 3 things may happen. The first option is that consumption is pegged back to match stalled production and this would stall Chinese economic growth with knock on effects to the global economy. The second option is that China tries to meet any shortfall buying coal on the international market. As already pointed out China is such a huge consumer of coal this would create great competition in the international market for limited supplies leading to severe upwards pressure on coal prices. The third option is that China somehow manages to install sufficient nuclear capacity to plug any energy gap.

The People's Daily reports a doubling of Chinese coal imports for the first 5 months of 2010 and upwards pressure on coal prices and it therefore looks like option 2 may be under way. Should Chinese coal imports double this year and next then China will be competing for about 50% of the coal on the world market and that may be like a wrecking ball going through the global economy that is founded on abundant and cheap supplies of energy.

Reserves and peak production
Finally a note on reserves. BP report China to have 114.5 Gt of coal reserves. BP in fact report coal reserves figures from the World Energy Council and the figure of 114.5 Gt has been reported every year since 1992. Thus we have the same unsatisfactory non-varying reserves reporting for Chinese coal that exists for Middle East OPEC crude oil reserves. Since 1992 China has produced 31 Gt of coal and the reserves should be reduced by that amount leaving 83.5 Gt reserves as of end 2009.

In 2006, the German based Energy Watch Group (47 page pdf) reported Chinese reserves to be 96.3 Gt. They produced a Hubbert curve forecast scenario that has proven to be inaccurate thus far (Fig. 6).

Dave Rutledge is currently estimating 139 Gt for ultimate recovery of Chinese coal. Cumulative production 1896 to 2009 is 51 Gt indicating 88 Gt remaining.



Figure 6 A Chinese coal production scenario produced by The Energy watch Group in 2006 (page 28 of report linked to above) illustrating how difficult it is to forecast production scenarios, especially pre-peak. One possible outcome is that Chinese coal production peaks earlier than shown and then enters rapid decline. Alternatively, substantially larger reserves may produce a taller and broader peak than shown here.

Chinese coal production will peak one day but it is very difficult to predict when that day will come based on these figures. The indications are that China has used about 37% of its coal. It has to be assumed that the best resources have been mined first and that for every year that passes the challenge of first meeting and then exceeding the previous year will become increasingly difficult. But the Chinese are an enterprising people.
Link -
[url]http://europe.theoildrum.com/node/71

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Nov 25th, 2010 at 11:17pm
IEA forecasts that peak oil production started in 2006

The IEA is forecasting for the first time that the global crude oil production peak has in fact already been reached more than four years ago, in 2006.

International crude oil demand has since fallen slightly all thanks to the recent global economic downturn, but once economies around the world have recovered, the IEA says daily crude oil production alone will no longer be sufficient to meet their needs.

IEA Talks other Fuels, Renewable Energy
The 2010 IEA report forecasts that increases in other fossil fuels including natural gas and tar sands will help crude oil in meeting new demand with clean, renewable energy sources also making major gains.

The IEA says that daily global oil production will “plateau” at around 68 million barrels per day by 2035, as total energy demand increases by more than 35 percent over the same period. According to the report, by 2035 three quarters of currently operating oil fields won’t be producing anymore. In fact, current oil fields are only expected to account for less than one fifth of that year’s production.

Thanks in part to pledges from governments to reduce their countries’ reliance on fossil fuels though, new contributions to the energy mix will help to avert the sort of catastrophic oil spike that many have predicted to coincide with the start of the peak oil age.

But while the projection may bode well for the world economy, the IEA is convinced that even if governments live up to the pledges they made in lowering greenhouse gas emissions. If the world continues on its current trajectory, the IEA says that average global temperatures will likely rise by at least 3.5 degrees C. The IEA recommended that the following conditions must be met to achieve the intended outcomes:

The IEA Wish List
Oil demand must peak sooner and decline more sharply than it would under natural “peak oil” conditions.

Coal will have to play a significantly smaller role in the energy balance, with global demand peaking in 2020 and declining steadily thereafter.

Demand for gas and liquified natural gas must also also peak before the end of the 2020s.

Renewables and nuclear power must double to represent nearly 40 percent of the energy market by 2035.

Advanced vehicles will also have to make rapid gains in the coming years, to levels in the upper reaches of what most analysts believe is possible. By 2035, the IEA says that not only will 70 percent of new worldwide vehicle sales will have to come from advance technology plugin hybrid and electric vehicles, but that that those cars will need to run mostly on electricity generated from nuclear and renewable sources rather than fossil fuels.

The IEA’s Outlook is considered by many to be one of the most comprehensive and authoritative annual energy market analyses available to the public. The IEA has historically denied the existence of peak oil.

Is the World Running Out of Oil?
Of course this doesn’t mean the world is literally running out of oil, as the World Energy Outlook emphasises with its forecast of ever greater reliance on unconventional oil resources. But for these resources to become legitimate reserves, they have to be accessed at prices consumers can afford to pay. Yet even the IEA acknowledges that oil prices as high as $200 per barrel will be needed to make these resources economically viable in the future.

The global economy is now experiencing its most severe post war recession after its brief initial encounter with the very same oil prices that are now being forecast for our oil consuming future. And this recession happened despite record fiscal stimulus and bailouts (money printing) that have left countries including Greece and Ireland in debt for many years to come and may soon threaten the solvency of others including Portugal, Spain and Italy.
Link -
http://www.liveoilprices.co.uk/oil/peak_oil/11/2010/iea-forecasts-that-peak-oil-production-started-in-2006.html
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Does anyone think that the IEA really has a handle on what is happening & presents factual information?

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Dec 7th, 2010 at 1:41pm
Kuwait weighs nuclear future

Kuwait has launched a feasibility study into nuclear power development with the aim of having one or two atomic plants in operation by 2020.

The study, undertaken by the French government's Agency France Nuclear International and the US nuclear consultant and fuel developer Lightbridge, will assess potential project sites in southern Kuwait, where water from the Gulf could be used to cool reactors.

The size of the potential power plants has not been determined but each would have a capacity of at least 1 gigawatt, the Middle East business intelligence publication MEED reported, citing Suhaila Marafi, the director of studies and research at Kuwait's ministry of electricity and water.

In September, Ahmad Bishara, the secretary general of Kuwait's national nuclear energy committee, said the emirate planned to build four nuclear reactors by 2022. "Kuwait has enough sovereign funds to take up the expenses," he said.

Currently, Kuwait meets about 75 per cent of its power demand by burning oil and the remaining 25 per cent from gas-fired plants. UAE power generation is about 30 per cent oil and 70 per cent gas, while more than half Saudi Arabia's electricity generation is oil-fuelled.

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http://www.thenational.ae/business/energy/kuwait-weighs-nuclear-future
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Kuwait is the home of the Burgan Oil Fields.

The Burgan field is also one of the older  (discovered in 1938) & larger fields (2nd largest Globally, by reserves) still in production and there is an obvious reason why the Kuwaiti's would be looking at Nuclear power.

Kuwait's Oil Production is about to go into steep decline!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Dec 12th, 2010 at 11:50am
End of Consummerism

It's not the end of the world, just the end of consumerism. We are about to wave goodbye to the dream of endless economic growth.

A change is about to be forced on society because energy consumption pretty much is the economy. And we are about to run short of the cheap energy which has been driving the past century of unchecked economic expansion.

Graph the world's energy consumption against its gross domestic product (GDP) and the two lines track.

However, a reckoning is coming. The ecological limits on growth have come into view. Climate change and over- population. But peak oil most immediately.

Anyone who can remember the last oil crisis of 1979 - President Jimmy Carter warning of national catastrophe in the United States - will also remember how swiftly the world moved on again.

The Club of Rome's The Limits to Growth, a study based on an alarming set of computer predictions, was briefly a fashionable read; it fell out of fashion, along with flared pants.

In truth, several factors underpin economic growth.

The availability of capital is one - a free flow of credit to build factories and launch businesses. Population is another. More people means more production. And technology. That goes without saying. We would like to think human inventiveness is the biggest single reason for continually rising living standards.

However, "biophysical economists" like Charles Hall, a professor at State University of New York, argue that the modern era is predominantly the story of how we have turned the energy so conveniently locked up in buried fossil fuels into an ever-expanding array of consumer goods and services.

It even accounts for empires. Great Britain arose because it had the ready supply of coal to turn iron into ships and cannons. The US became a world power because it had the sweet light oil fields of Pennsylvania and Texas.

Hall says it is obvious energy is needed to make things. Or even grow them. When the tractors, fertilisers and all the other energy inputs are totted up, it takes about four litres of oil to put the food on our plates each day.

But Hall says what really matters is the gap between the price we pay for energy and how much value we can then extract from it - the energy returned on the energy invested (EROEI). This is the profit margin which makes the difference between us feeling rich or poor as nations.

For a century, oil and coal have seemed so cheap that economically they have barely been a talking point. It has only cost about a barrel of oil for every 20 barrels extracted. So petroleum has been inexpensive to deliver. The EROEI story for coal-mining has been very similar. Then, because economic activity is energy consumption by another name, this has created plenty of head- room in the economy as a whole.

Hall's analyses show that in the 1990s and into the 2000s, the energy bill to run the US was less than 10 per cent of its GDP. Which, after all the necessary costs of life, like infrastructure, health and education, were taken into account, still left a quarter of the entire economy for discretionary spending.

But, he asks, what if the price of oil were to double - as it did in the 2008 spike that preceded, and may have even provoked, the financial meltdown? Or quadruple as it did in the 1970s, and some are suggesting might happen again if oil supplies become constrained?

Hall says energy could suddenly become 20 per cent of society's running costs, or even more than a third. And the cuts to balance the books would have to come off the discretionary spending. So that sense of easy wealth would fast be wiped out. A quarter could shrink to next to nothing fairly rapidly.
But broadly it can be seen we rely on a world where our energy sources are not just plentiful but also dirt cheap. A profit margin has to be built in to rig the national GDP game. And when that era ends, we had better have a plan B ready, Hall says.

The focus is on petroleum because oil and natural gas are still overwhelmingly the prime fuel sources for the world.

According to the annual BP statistical review of world energy, oil makes up 35 per cent of the global energy budget, while natural gas is another 24 per cent. Coal is then 29 per cent, while nuclear is just 5 per cent and renewables, like hydro and wind, answer for the remaining 7 per cent.

The peak oil argument is that the Earth's supply of petroleum is limited and we have burnt through a trillion barrels of crude oil now. Our appetite has been exponential - each year always more. We have also quite naturally been pumping the cheap and easy-to-get-at oil first, the large reservoirs found in places like Alaska and the Middle East.

So eventually, we will be left with only a diminishing supply of the dirty and hard-to-recover oil. The deep sea wells that blew up in the Gulf of Mexico, the tar sands that will have to be open-cast mined in Canada, the scattering of smaller fields that might remain spotted around the world.

Which is when Hall's EROEI and the law of diminishing returns kicks in. Steadily the cost of producing oil will rise and its in- built profit margin will begin to shrivel.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/lifestyle/mainlander/4448279/End-of-consumerism
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Guess what is already happening to discretionary spending, at both Personal & Government levels?

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Dec 12th, 2010 at 11:36pm
Peak Oil & Climate Change

13 Minutes of Embedded Video of Practical Examples of Peak Oil & Climate Change.

Link -
http://leyerle.blogspot.com/2010/12/peak-oil-climate-change.html

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Dec 14th, 2010 at 1:13pm
Oil And U.S. Hyperinflation

As precious metals investors, it can often seem to us that the U.S. government (and the banking cabal which pulls its strings) is exclusively focused on suppressing gold and silver prices - given the historic role of precious metals as a "barometer" of economic conditions, especially inflation. However, there is a different commodity that this group obsesses about to a far greater degree than precious metals: oil.

The United State's enormous dependency on imported oil translates directly to enormous economic vulnerability. Indeed, U.S. paranoia about "securing" oil supplies for itself has been the driving force behind most (if not all) of the wars it has instigated in the Middle East.

The U.S. dependence on petroleum goes well beyond simply the massive amounts that is spent each year by the U.S. to satisfy its oil-gluttony. Cheap oil is the essential input needed to operate the "levers" of U.S. military/economic imperialism, as well as the foundation upon which the entire U.S. domestic economy is built.

Let me summarize this dependence briefly. By itself, the U.S. military is one of the ten largest oil-consuming entities on the planet. In other words, operating the U.S. war machine by itself consumes more oil each year than all but a handful of nations. Thus, the death, destruction, and misery that the U.S. military has inflicted upon its victims over recent decades is accompanied by the horrendous waste of countless billions of barrels of our most precious natural resource.

In this respect, high oil prices are a "blessing" to much of the world, as the hopelessly insolvent U.S. government is totally incapable of financing any more "military adventures", now that the era of cheap oil is gone forever. Indeed, we can only assume that Iranian defiance to the U.S. regarding its nuclear program is based upon their firm conviction that any military harm which the U.S. could inflict upon Iran would pale in comparison to the economic harm it would inflict upon itself from such an attack. Thus, we know the #1 reason why the U.S. is vainly attempting to keep a lid on oil prices: having a "big stick" is of little use if you're never able to use it.

The U.S. military is but one facet of the U.S. empire totally dependent upon cheap oil.


Of near-equal importance is the need for cheap oil in order to pursue its agricultural imperialism. Roughly two decades ago, the U.S. government made a conscious decision to abandon most manufacturing activity - with the exception of the industrial and hi-tech sectors which service the U.S. war-machine.

Replacing manufacturing as the foundation for the U.S. economy is agriculture.

Even here, however, the U.S.'s Achilles heel asserts itself. Apart from the fact that U.S. agriculture is highly dependent on massive water subsidies, what few people realize is that agriculture is an oil-intensive industry. Oil-powered machines plant the crops. Oil-powered machines distribute the petroleum-based fertilizer products used by most forms of agriculture.

Oil-powered machines then harvest most of these crops, so that oil-powered trucks can take this food to processing centers, before ultimately being shipped to consumers - primarily in more oil-powered trucks. Compounding U.S. oil-gluttony, the U.S. has embarked on a huge program to produce the world's least efficient bio-fuel: corn-based ethanol.

In other words, after consuming vast quantities of oil to produce its crops, the U.S. then takes a large chunk of that agricultural production and converts it to fuel - in a process which uses nearly as much fuel as is produced, resulting in no economic benefit to anyone (and no increase in energy supply), except for a windfall for corn-farmers.


While the U.S. selfishly wastes vast quantities of oil with its war-mongering, and foolishly squanders vast, additional amounts through short-sighted agricultural policies which can only be characterized as "idiotic", this endless waste of precious petroleum is 100% certain to destroy its domestic economy.

As U.S. "inner cities" became increasingly uninhabitable due to endemic poverty - and the crime which inevitably accompanies that - U.S. "urban sprawl" turned into a gigantic population-shift, where urban Americans became "suburban Americans", forced to commute long-distances (in oil-powered vehicles) just to make it to work each day.

Meanwhile the rest of the world chose to reduce their own oil-consumption through adding high taxes to oil, which also made various forms of mass, public transit economically viable - further reducing their oil-dependence. In its typically short-sighted fashion, the U.S. did the exact opposite. It continued to heavily subsidize oil consumption amongst its population.

Decades of this totally suicidal policy has left the U.S. with the following problems. Americans possess tens of millions of obsolete gas-guzzlers - for which they are still making $billions in payments. They live in massive homes they can no longer afford to heat, located so far from employment centers that they can't afford to drive to work. Meanwhile, equally short-sighted city planners never bothered to embark upon any significant investments in mass-transit.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Dec 14th, 2010 at 1:13pm
Oil And U.S. Hyperinflation (Cont)

Even if the U.S. had the money to begin to create 21st century mass transit for its cities (which it doesn't), these long-term infrastructure projects would take at least a decade before making a significant dent in U.S. oil consumption. The U.S. has no money, no oil, and no options.

While Wall Street caused the "Crash of '08" to attempt to hide its own insolvency as being merely part of a "global crisis", the U.S. government had an entirely different motive for engineering a global economic crash, and a total meltdown in all commodity markets: $140/barrel oil. In this respect, Rob Kirby wrote a very interesting article about U.S. "machinations" in the oil market, beginning in May/June of 2008.

Through a combination of sleuthing and deduction, Kirby connected a dramatic change in U.S. oil policy to the Crash of '08, and otherwise inexplicable price-behavior regarding the different grades of global crude - which coincided with the change in U.S. energy policy. He also noted that these "machinations" bore an uncanny resemblance to "activities" of the U.S. government in precious metals markets.

Media talking-heads continue to perpetuate the myth that a "cheaper dollar" will improve the U.S. trade balance - and ultimately help the U.S. dig its way out of insolvency. Empirical data has revealed this to be nothing but wishful thinking. In fact, each time the U.S. dollar takes another nose-dive, the U.S. trade deficit usually widens, as the modest up-tick in U.S. exports is overwhelmed by the soaring bill for U.S. imported oil.

The bottom-line for these parameters is that the only way in which the U.S. can delay economic collapse is to continue to push-down oil prices (versus the U.S. dollar).
Where precious metals factors into this equation is that oil-producing nations (most notably the Arab, OPEC nations) watch gold and silver prices - to tell them when/if they need to push crude prices higher, as compensation for the ever more rapid dilution/depreciation of the U.S. dollar.

Therefore, while the U.S. government desperately wants to keep gold and silver prices down, it absolutely needs relatively cheap oil prices. What this means is that when oil surges above $100/barrel (likely by January or February) we should all expect another made-in-the-USA "economic crisis".

If (or when) the U.S. finally loses any ability to control oil prices, the consequence is inevitable: hyperinflation. Soaring oil prices increase the U.S. trade deficit, cripple the domestic economy, negate any/all benefit of its massive agricultural subsidies, and leave its war-machine "out of gas".

Simply, there is not a single facet of the U.S. economy which can remain solvent with high oil prices. When cities, states, and most average Americans begin a downward spiral toward bankruptcy due to high oil prices, the last and only option for the U.S. is more money-printing - much, much more.

With current U.S. money-printing already a threat to set-off U.S. hyperinflation, any further escalation of Bernanke's monetary madness must result in hyperinflation.
Much like decades of suppression of the silver market has resulted in the near-total depletion of silver stockpiles, so too has the U.S. policy of depressing global oil prices resulted in the depletion of global oil reserves - decades sooner than would have occurred with any kind of sensible, long-range planning.

While the silly, suicidal bullion-banks only increase silver demand each time they launch another "attack" on prices (advancing the date of their own funerals), so too has the U.S. government's permanent policy of oil price-suppression merely served to dig its own economic grave.

At the exact same time that U.S. vulnerability to high oil prices has reached a new, all-time high, the ability of the U.S. to suppress oil prices through any form of moderate/subtle manipulation of global markets has been exhausted. With the U.S. economy already on the verge of collapse, creating another "crisis" (its last and only "tool") will require nothing more than simply being honest about the severity of its economic problems.
Link -
http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/12.10/hyperinflate.html
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Whilst I inderstand where the authors comments arise from and in many instances agree, there are also some factors that are influencing events that he has not touched and I also disagree with some of his conclusions.

In particular, it still seems self-apparent that the US military is still the most effective military of the planet!

Whilst US Politicians have shielded US citizens (so far) from the effects of approaching Peak Oil, other countries have not. It is highly  debatable whether higher taxes introduced by many countries has reduced their dependence on Oil or whether governments have simply used that mechanism, as a tax raising avenue!

There has certainly been NO MOVEMENT AWAY FROM OIL!

We are now moving into a new paradigm, one affected by -
1) Peak Oil - Already started.
2) Demographics (Aging Population now, followed by a larger Population (another 1 or 2 Billion Global) by 2040 or so, then a long Population decline (to around 3-4 Billion by Century's end)  
3) Climate Change - Already started, but becoming more apparent towards the later end of the century.

Bernanke is living a different crisis!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Dec 14th, 2010 at 3:04pm
They Haven't Learned

The oil industry, its lobbyists and its Congressional allies are predictably furious at the Obama administration’s decision not to allow exploratory oil drilling in the eastern Gulf of Mexico and off the Atlantic coast. The decision was unquestionably the right one.

Given the disastrous oil spill in the central gulf, and industry’s inability to clean it up, one might have expected a little self-knowledge. Not from this crowd, which continues to lobby for more risky drilling instead of focusing all its energy on improving its capacity to prevent and respond to future blowouts.

The White House announced in March that these areas would be opened to exploration as part of a larger political deal intended to produce comprehensive climate legislation. Congress did not pass such a bill. But what really altered the administration’s calculus was the massive BP oil spill in April and the huge flaws it exposed in the industry’s safety practices and the government’s regulatory machinery.

The administration is now saying that these flaws must be fixed before drilling will be allowed to proceed. Exploration and production will continue in the central and western gulf, the nation’s richest source of oil, and exploratory drilling will be allowed in some Alaskan waters, but only after extensive environmental reviews.

Industry’s biggest weakness is its inability to handle a blowout or other major accidents in deep water, where most new drilling is likely to occur. The BP well gushed nearly five million barrels of oil before it was capped. Initially, BP was seen as a uniquely careless company, but subsequent inquiries by a presidential commission suggest that the entire industry ignored safety precautions in pursuit of ever-higher gains.

As the commission co-chairman William Reilly said last week, companies that invested billions in sophisticated deepwater drilling techniques “devoted essentially nothing” to dealing with the consequences of disaster.

The government’s gravest failure was its shocking inability to provide adequate oversight. These problems were underscored last Tuesday in a report from the Interior Department’s inspector general saying that federal inspectors were overwhelmed and poorly trained before the spill and, to some extent, still are.

Interior Secretary Ken Salazar reorganized the agency overseeing drilling after the BP disaster. But he acknowledges that much more needs to be done and says that one of the main reasons for putting the March drilling plan on hold is to give the government time to upgrade its staff and “focus on creating a more stringent regulatory regime.”

The industry and its well-paid allies say that delaying drilling will increase America’s dependence on foreign oil. That ignores a simple truth: A nation using one-quarter of the world’s oil while controlling only 3 percent of the world’s known reserves cannot drill its way to independence. The estimated 7.5 billion barrels the eastern gulf and Atlantic coast are thought to contain are just about what this country consumes in a year.

That’s still a lot of oil, and the acoustic studies that Interior is planning may reveal even more. But the country can wait until it’s sure that oil can be safely extracted. What it can’t afford is another massive spill.

Link -
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/13/opinion/13mon1.html?_r=1
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And that, may well spell the end of Obama?

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Dec 15th, 2010 at 8:43pm
Collapse (The Movie)
with Michael Ruppert

Part 1 - embedded video
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/50078/Collapse__part_1_/

Part 2 - embedded video
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/50113/Collapse__part_2_/
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Not lite!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Dec 16th, 2010 at 1:18pm
Does China Face a ‘Peak Coal’ Threat?

China’s ravenous appetite for energy puts the country at risk of reaching a point of  “peak coal,” when demand for coal will outstrip domestic production capacity, a growing number of experts believe.

China now consumes approximately 47 percent of coal produced globally but by most estimates has just 14 percent of global coal reserves. Meanwhile, demand has risen by about 10 percent per year for the last decade, putting the country on an “unsustainable” path, according to a recent report by C.L.S.A. Asia-Pacific Markets, a Hong Kong-based brokerage firm.


Coal might be abundant globally, but if China cannot substantially raise its domestic production, increasing imports enough to meet demand may be hard to accomplish in the short-term, putting the country in a potential supply bind.

“I think China is the vulnerable player here — they don’t really have a lot of options,” said David Fridley, a staff scientist at the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory and deputy leader of the laboratory’s China Energy Group.

Evidence that China may be nearing an ultimate limit on production can be seen in rapidly growing imports and a recent proposal by a top energy official that the country cap coal production at around 3.6 billion tons per year beginning in 2011. China is on pace to produce nearly 3.4 billion tons of coal domestically in 2010, according to a recent Reuters analysis, and will import about 150 million tons this year.

Chinese officials suggest that the coal production cap is intended to prolong domestic supplies. But some analysts believe that the cap may have more to do with the country’s inability to substantially raise production, most likely because of problems with transportation. Already, a significant amount of coal transport has shifted from China’s overburdened rail lines to its crowded roads, with coal-laden trucks blamed for snarling roads, as with a two-week-long traffic jam that clogged the national highway between Beijing and Zhangjiakou this summer.

Domestic Chinese supplies are estimated at about 110 billion tons, enough for about 30 years consumption at the 3.6 billion ton level. Yet continued rapid economic growth will push demand far higher, leading some to suspect that China is preparing to turn toward imports to meet further demand growth.

As our colleague Elisabeth Rosenthal reported last month, rising Chinese demand has countries like Canada, Australia, Indonesia, Colombia and South Africa rapidly ramping up their coal exports. The sudden opening of the Chinese market has put some countries, like Australia, in the unusual position of increasing coal imports while simultaneously pursuing domestic goals of reducing carbon emissions from fossil fuels to address climate change.

In Australia, plans to rapidly scale up coal exports have already run into political opposition, a prospect that would probably await attempts to develop major new terminals on the west coasts of the United States and Canada to export plentiful North American coal.

“I think the West Coast in general would be a very difficult place to come in and put in a massive coal-export terminus,” Dr. Fridley said.

At the same time, China is expected to face increasing competition from India and other developing nations in Asia for coal imports from abroad, potentially setting the stage for a rapid rise in coal prices. The result would be felt across the global economy, some experts say.

“China’s insatiable hunger for more coal will drive up coal prices everywhere,” Richard Heinberg, an author and senior fellow at the Post-Carbon Institute in Santa Rosa, Calif., wrote in a recent essay. “China can’t keep up coal-powered industrial expansion for much longer, nor can the global economy accelerate without the engine of China.”

Link -
http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/12/14/does-china-face-a-peak-coal-threat/
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A few observations -
1) China CAN NOT continue to ramp up Coal production, to meet the current pace of Coal fired power stations, which is about one a week.
The current Coal Production expansion, pictured on the folllowing chart, is not sustainable!
China is currently consumming nearly 50% of Global Coal Production, but it only has 14% of Global Coal reserves.


2) When China starts to reduce its own Coal production, it will try to  increase its Consumption via large increases in imported Coal, with Australia being a prime candidate.
This is what the US did with Oil, when it became apparent that US production of Oil would decline.
Whilst TPTB in Australia will think this is just great, IT SHOULD BE RESISTED, IN THE LONGER TERM, BEST INTERESTS, OF ALL AUSTRALIANS!

3) The Chinese Economic expansion has ridden on the back of two Economic tigers, Demographics & Energy (mainly Coal), that is coming to an end!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Dec 16th, 2010 at 1:49pm
China warns of power and energy shortages this winter

SHANGHAI, Dec 15 (Reuters) - Some parts of China could face an intermittent shortage of crucial coal, oil, power or gas supplies crucial for heating during the winter months, China's top economic planning body said in a statement on Wednesday.  

Most of China's resource production bases, including coal and and oil, are either concentrated in the northern or western provinces, away from the key demand areas located in the southern and eastern region, such as Shanghai and Guangdong.

Any supply shortfall could prompt a surge in import demand as utilities and firms seek alternative fuel supplies to feed their power plants.

In a sign that the government may again crack down on steel mills which have only recently resumed production, the NDRC said it would need to curb power demand from energy intensive and polluting industries from "rebounding excessively."  


Prices of coal and liquefied natural gas jumped last winter, when violent snowstorms caused a transport gridlock and crippled power supplies.

The NDRC has also called for efforts to improve coal production to ensure stable supplies in the winter and spring months, as well as to guarantee "stable supplies" of refined oil and natural gas.

Almost every winter, China's energy market suffers a new variant of the same no-win situation as state controls exacerbate supply shortages that only urgent and pricey imports can relieve.

Despite cold weather and rising fuel costs, a state campaign to stamp out energy wastage has prompted officials in many provinces to cut power supplies to factories, businesses and even homes and public facilities.

Link -
http://af.reuters.com/article/energyOilNews/idAFTOE6BE04920101215
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Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Dec 16th, 2010 at 2:04pm
Electricity and other rises to cost families an extra $310

BASIC utility price hikes which will cost the average household an extra $310 next year have angered AdelaideNow readers.
The latest power sting, announced yesterday, will increase the average annual electricity bill by $140 or 12 per cent.


AdelaideNow readers have today vented their frustration at the State Government, SA Water, and the Essential Services Commission for the latest in a string of price hikes.

Judi, of Adelaide, warned low income earners were being pushed even further into poverty.

"Once again, a company making profit but not using any of that money to improve the infrastructure, and instead hitting the consumers pocket again," she says

"Remember, our pockets are only so deep - try digging too much further in, and you'll be hitting fresh air."

Tom Bell of Pt Noarlunga, however, said the rise is a global trend.

"PEAK OIL - it's not difficult to understand people - the more OIL costs - the higher prices go - with everything - economics!!"

In addition to the electricity price rise, water bills are up 21 per cent (an average increase of $85 next year), council rates will go up 5 per cent ($50) and gas bills are also likely to rise 10 per cent ($35).

Grocery bills have risen 5 per cent, or $728, over the past year.

The inflation rate is just 2.8 per cent.


The electricity price rise takes effect on January 1, meaning the average annual bill will increase from $1160 to $1300.

South Australians will endure the second most expensive electricity bills in the country, behind NSW.

Link -
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/electricity-and-other-rises-to-cost-families-an-extra-310/story-e6frea83-1225971172891
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Who sees a few linkages?

Like the US & elsewhere, the current CPI figures are absolute BS, they are a concoction that specifically does not count many of the staples of life and it does so to provide governments with specific advantages!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Dec 19th, 2010 at 7:51pm
Solutions to peak oil – part I: what is the problem?

A storm is coming, and some say that it will wipe our civilisation off the earth1. I am talking about the progressive disappearance of oil.

I have been thinking and investigating the issue called “peak oil” for over a year now, and it is one of the reasons which started me writing this blog. Peak oil is defined as the moment where the maximum oil is being produced and the production starts it final decline.

There are indications that peak oil is either imminent or even may have passed a few years ago. Although the consequences won’t be immediate after the peak, on the long term they will be dire. We will discuss what the possible solutions to peak oil are in a moment but first, what are we talking about? Let’s start by a few facts:
1) There is only a limited amount of oil on the planet – because the planet is round.
2) The world’s first commercial oil well was drilled in Poland in 1853, and global production reached 4 million barrels a year in the 1860s (one barrel is about 159 litres).
3) Today’s production hovers just above 70 million barrels a day.
4) 2005 was an all-time high at 73.72 million barrels a day. Production is nearly flat since.
5) The Industrial Revolution brought a better understanding of how to use energy and allowed global population to increase ten times compared to what has been constant over millennia. It is quite clear that our population would never have reached this level without access to all the cheap energy sources we currently have.
6) Our industry, food system and economy have become wholly dependent on cheap fuel.
7) India and China demand for oil is set to quadruple by 2030.
8) Some 64 million barrel per day of additional gross capacity – the equivalent of almost six times the daily output of Saudi Arabia today – needs to be brought on stream between now and 2030 (World Energy Outlook 2008)

So if the amount of oil we have is limited, if our demand is exponentially growing and if production has been stationary for 5 years, how much oil have we left?


First we have to realise there aren’t any massive oil field discoveries those days. It is estimated that the peak of oil production lags behind the peak of oil field discoveries by 30 to 40 years depending on the urgency with which new fields are brought on line. The graph below shows the rate of discoveries of conventional oil field


Second, according to the EIA (U.S. Energy Information Administration) itself, we are on the verge of a downward slope. See this graph:


The graph above was submitted at an U.S. Department of Energy roundtable in April 2009. You can find the presentation document of this roundtable on the Department of Energy website. As you can see the only line going up is the demand. It is to be noted that over the next 5 years the amount required to meet demands equates to 10 million barrels a day, which is the daily production of Saudi Arabia, the largest producer on earth. Bear in mind that it takes least 7 years to get any new oil project running so if we were to meet oil demand in 7 years we will need to get 20% of our oil from yet-unidentified projects. Therefore we are already behind schedule by quite a long way.

The fact is that there is no cheap replacement for oil, and most of what we consider granted in the western world is based on its availability. If peak oil hasn’t passed yet, all the above facts suggest that peak oil is imminent (definitely less than 10 years, probably less than 5), after which we will start to see an irremediable decline in production. Sometime peak oil is defined as when demand outstrip supply, which in my opinion has already come to pass for a few years, given the current prices of crude and flat production despite international growth.

I’d like to stop a moment to let this sink in and consider what actually depends on oil.

1) Most of our transportation: cars, planes, boat, trucks.
2) Commercial shipment: bringing food to the supermarket, shipping building material, most of the industry.
3) Tyres: It takes 3.6 billion gallons of crude oil to produce tyres for all of the cars in the U.S. and 7 gallons of crude to produce one tire. Therefore should we all run on electric cars we would still have a problem.
4) Mining equipment, farming and forestry equipment. The energy density of any commercially available battery makes it very heavy to move around and therefore a poor replacement of liquid fuels11.
5) Most plastics. Plastics are everywhere. Look around you, starting by your computer and your phone, and the chips inside of them, and then try to imagine a world without plastics.
6) Many pesticides are derived from petroleum. Fertilizers are derived from natural gas, which ultimately will be confronted to the same issue.
7) Motor’s lubricating oil.
8) Asphalt.
9) Our entire food production and distribution network is heavily dependent on oil and fossil fuels17. It is estimated that for every calories you eat, 10 calories of fossil fuels (mainly from oil and gas) is being used.

Link -
http://www.worldsalvation.info/2010/12/solutions-to-peak-oil-%E2%80%93-part-i-what-is-the-problem/
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Could be an informative series, its a good start!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Dec 20th, 2010 at 8:07pm
Australia faces looming fuel shortages.

Australia will soon not be able to import enough oil to meet demand because of Peak Oil.

This warning comes from Prof Kjell Aleklett, head of the Global Energy Systems group at Uppsala University in Sweden, who is currently visiting Australia.

Peak Oil is the time when the rate of global oil production reaches its all-time maximum and starts its inevitable downtrend. Forecasts vary from between 2011 to beyond 2015.

Australia’s own oil production has been declining since 2000, and already 80 per cent of the fuel for our cars, trucks and planes is imported, either directly or as crude oil to be refined in Australia.

“Declining global oil production, increasing internal consumption in OPEC nations and increasing demand from China and India will mean there is less oil available for importers like Australia, US and Europe, just when their own domestic production is declining,” says Prof Aleklett.


Prof Aleklett has published a critical review of the International Energy Agency’s World Energy Outlook, casting very serious doubts on the independence and methodology of the IEA forecasts.

“In 2008, the IEA predicted world oil production would grow from the current 85 million barrels/day to 106 mb/d in 2030. However, the Uppsala group, using the same base data on existing reserves and future discoveries, can see only 75 mb/d. This means a substantial decline in oil availability instead of business as usual growth. This will almost inevitably lead to oil shortages in Australia,” he warns.

The IEA and the Uppsala group agree that production is dropping in most of the world’s giant oil fields by about 6 per cent per annum. It is the ability of new fields to fill this enormous decline gap which is the bone of contention.

“The difference is due to the IEA’s mistake in assuming impossibly high rates of extraction from future oil fields, twice as high even as those unachieved in the high-tech North Sea region. Oil has to flow through the pores in the reservoir rocks to find its way to the oil well to be pumped up. The flow rates depend largely on the laws of physics and on the geology and permeability of the sediments,” Prof Aleklett says.


“Sadly, economics and market forces have little impact on droplets of oil squeezing through rocks kilometres below the surface.”
The IEA is an oil-importers’ cartel to counterbalance OPEC, the oil exporting countries’ cartel.

“There has been public criticism of the IEA for succumbing to political pressure from the US to give unreasonably optimistic oil forecasts,” says Prof Aleklett. “But even the IEA has been reducing its forecasts of future oil production over the years, from 121 mb/d by 2030, to 115 then 106 and now 96 mb/day in 2030. However, the Uppsala group’s criticisms of the IEA methods have been unchallenged. I stand by my assessment that world oil production will start declining soon.”

Forecasts of looming global oil shortages have also been given by a range of authorities, including the US and German Defence Departments, Sir Richard Branson and even Macquarie Bank.

Prof Aleklett is warning planners and investors that on-going business-as-usual growth in Australia’s oil usage is impossible.

“Peak Oil will mean peak traffic and peak air-travel. Car and plane trips will start to decrease as oil shortages hit“.


“Cities and businesses that prepare in advance for the probability of oil shortages will fare far better than those that believe the fairy-tales that oil production will keep increasing continuously.

"Oil vulnerability assessment and risk management planning should be an essential step for governments and investors. People whose superannuation is in airport and urban toll-road companies will be very hard hit unless the funds managers start considering Peak Oil risks, soon. Oil vulnerability assessment should be an essential part of any investment decisions as most companies will be affected in one way or another", Professor Aleklett concluded.

Link -
http://aleklett.wordpress.com/2010/12/20/australia-faces-looming-fuel-shortages/
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Peak Oil, in concert with Global Demographics & Climate Change, will affect every corner of modern life, the Global Economy & Politics!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Dec 22nd, 2010 at 8:44pm
Peak Oil: The Basics of Oil Depletion in 5 Minutes


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqDgK5w8xxU

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Dec 28th, 2010 at 8:46pm
The Finite World
By PAUL KRUGMAN


Oil is back above $90 a barrel. Copper and cotton have hit record highs. Wheat and corn prices are way up. Over all, world commodity prices have risen by a quarter in the past six months.

So what’s the meaning of this surge?

Is it speculation run amok? Is it the result of excessive money creation, a harbinger of runaway inflation just around the corner? No and no.

What the commodity markets are telling us is that we’re living in a finite world, in which the rapid growth of emerging economies is placing pressure on limited supplies of raw materials, pushing up their prices. And America is, for the most part, just a bystander in this story.

Some background: The last time the prices of oil and other commodities were this high, two and a half years ago, many commentators dismissed the price spike as an aberration driven by speculators. And they claimed vindication when commodity prices plunged in the second half of 2008.

But that price collapse coincided with a severe global recession, which led to a sharp fall in demand for raw materials. The big test would come when the world economy recovered. Would raw materials once again become expensive?

Well, it still feels like a recession in America. But thanks to growth in developing nations, world industrial production recently passed its previous peak — and, sure enough, commodity prices are surging again.


This doesn’t necessarily mean that speculation played no role in 2007-2008. Nor should we reject the notion that speculation is playing some role in current prices; for example, who is that mystery investor who has bought up much of the world’s copper supply? But the fact that world economic recovery has also brought a recovery in commodity prices strongly suggests that recent price fluctuations mainly reflect fundamental factors.

What about commodity prices as a harbinger of inflation? Many commentators on the right have been predicting for years that the Federal Reserve, by printing lots of money — it’s not actually doing that, but that’s the accusation — is setting us up for severe inflation. Stagflation is coming, declared Representative Paul Ryan in February 2009; Glenn Beck has been warning about imminent hyperinflation since 2008.

Yet inflation has remained low. What’s an inflation worrier to do?

One response has been a proliferation of conspiracy theories, of claims that the government is suppressing the truth about rising prices. But lately many on the right have seized on rising commodity prices as proof that they were right all along, as a sign of high overall inflation just around the corner.

You do have to wonder what these people were thinking two years ago, when raw material prices were plunging. If the commodity-price rise of the past six months heralds runaway inflation, why didn’t the 50 percent decline in the second half of 2008 herald runaway deflation?

Inconsistency aside, however, the big problem with those blaming the Fed for rising commodity prices is that they’re suffering from delusions of U.S. economic grandeur. For commodity prices are set globally, and what America does just isn’t that important a factor.

In particular, today, as in 2007-2008, the primary driving force behind rising commodity prices isn’t demand from the United States. It’s demand from China and other emerging economies. As more and more people in formerly poor nations are entering the global middle class, they’re beginning to drive cars and eat meat, placing growing pressure on world oil and food supplies.

And those supplies aren’t keeping pace. Conventional oil production has been flat for four years; in that sense, at least, peak oil has arrived. True, alternative sources, like oil from Canada’s tar sands, have continued to grow. But these alternative sources come at relatively high cost, both monetary and environmental.

Also, over the past year, extreme weather — especially severe heat and drought in some important agricultural regions — played an important role in driving up food prices. And, yes, there’s every reason to believe that climate change is making such weather episodes more common.

So what are the implications of the recent rise in commodity prices? It is, as I said, a sign that we’re living in a finite world, one in which resource constraints are becoming increasingly binding. This won’t bring an end to economic growth, let alone a descent into Mad Max-style collapse. It will require that we gradually change the way we live, adapting our economy and our lifestyles to the reality of more expensive resources.

But that’s for the future. Right now, rising commodity prices are basically the result of global recovery. They have no bearing, one way or another, on U.S. monetary policy. For this is a global story; at a fundamental level, it’s not about us.


Link -
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/27/opinion/27krugman.html?_r=1&ref=opinion
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As usual, I agree with some, but not all, of what the author has written!

The Oil Price is coming again and that is driven largely by Demand from places such as China, India & other non-developed contries.

However, we do not have the time to gradually transition away from Oil and the USA is far from a by-stander in the events surrounding Peak Oil!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Dec 29th, 2010 at 6:37pm
Wishful Thinking & Fairy Dust

Observations on the EIA 2010 Annual Energy Outlook

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zS7yhR9fG1M

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jan 1st, 2011 at 8:23pm
Oil is Not Food but Food is Oil: The Imminent Crisis of Food Production Dependence on Oil

Awareness of the oil crisis is ubiquitous, epitomized by America's desperate struggle to secure control over the world's oil supplies notwithstanding the specious pretexts offered as rationalizations for occupying Iraq and Afghanistan and destabilization campaigns in countries such as Iran.

Sadly absent from public discourse on oil-related issues is the impact of declining oil reserves on the production of food and the complete lack of interest of Western governments in pursuing alternate methods of feeding the world.

Many scientists have concluded that we have passed peak oil which is the point at which the maximum rate of global petroleum extraction is reached due to geological limitations.   After reaching peak oil, the rate of production enters terminal decline.

Obviously, the rate of oil production after peak oil is reached can remain at high levels but at the cost of shortening the time remaining before producing oil is no longer feasible.

Another problem in extracting oil after it reaches its peak is the net gain in energy or the "energy returned on energy invested ratio" (EROEI).   EROEI is the ratio of the amount of usable energy acquired from a particular energy resource to the amount of energy expended to obtain that energy resource.   When it reaches the point that it costs more than a barrel of oil to produce a barrel of oil as in the Alberta Tar Sands, production becomes a losing proposition.

According to a number of experts, peak oil has either been reached or approaching rapidly.   The EU energy chief warns that: "European oil consumption of gas already reached its peak.   The amount of oil available globally, I think has already peaked."   In a U.S. Department of Energy study "Peaking of World Production: Impacts, Mitigation and Risk Management", released in 2005 reports that: "As peaking is approached, liquid fuel prices and price volatility will increase dramatically."   The Association for the Study of Peak Oil (APSO) concludes that regular conventional oil reached its peak in 2005.

There are many ramifications of living in a world with dwindling production of oil, but none more important than the impact on the production of food.

Over 400 gallons of oil are consumed each year to feed one person in North America.   About one third of that oil is used to manufacture fertilizer, about 20% to operate farm machinery, 16% for transportation, 13% for irrigation, 8% for raising livestock and 5% for pesticides.   Transportation involves refrigerated trucks and planes transporting foods long distances to distribution centres.


According to Richard Heinberg, Senior Fellow-in -"Residence at the Post Carbon Institute and author: "Over all -" including energy costs for farm machinery, transportation, and processing, and oil and natural gas used as feedstock's for agricultural chemicals -" the modern food system consumes roughly ten calories of fossil fuel energy for every calorie of food energy produced."   Currently, efficiency in food production is obscenely poor and foreshadows an escalation in prices and diminishing supplies.

To sever the relationship between oil and food will require a major paradigm shift in how we produce food.   In the words of Richard Hienberg (2005): "Given the fact that fossil fuels are limited in quantity and we are already in view of the global oil production peak, the debate over the potential productivity chemical-gene engineered agriculture and agroecological farming may be relatively pointless.   We must turn to a food system that is less fuel reliant, even if it does prove to be less productive."

Link -
http://www.opednews.com/articles/1/Oil-is-Not-Food-but-Food-i-by-David-Model-101230-552.html
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Energy is often referred to in terms of grid and particularly base load power generation, but there are areas such as Liquids for Transport, Agriculture & Oil used in a myriad of manufacturing processes, where the real problems are, which have few, if any, solutions!  

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jan 2nd, 2011 at 12:22pm
A Picture is worth a thousand Words







What does it all mean -
1) World Crude Oil Production effectively Peaked in 2005.
2) Non-OPEC Proction has effectively reduced over the last 7 years, despite a huge ramping up in Russian Production, which is now set to decline.
3) Crude Oil available for export is set to seriously decline over the next 10 years, despite continued Population & Demand increases, which will lead to heavy competition for available resources and a continued escalation in Oil Pricing, which will also drag up other Energy pricing!

However, this is only one of the major factors driving the Global Economy, the broader Economy will also have to take into consideration -
1) The effects of an Aging Baby Boomer generation, which are set to commence "official retirement" from January 1st, 2011, which means a decrease in Demand for a wide range of Products & Services, an increase in Taxes from those still employed to pay for the Boomers Pensions and Health Costs that have already been spent by 40 years of Politicians thinking the future would take care of itself.

2) The effects of the continuing slow down in Global Population Growth, which has been slowing for 40 years and is likely to hit ZPG around 2040-2050, before going into actual decline for the rest of this century, which means a slowing Growth in Demand for a wide range of Products & Services.

3) The effects of Global Climate Change, which can be hinted at by the increased prices for Wheat arising from the likes of the Russian summer Heatwave & the Australian summer Floods and increasing Oil costs!

http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?chtt=Wheat,+US,+(Hard+Red+Wheat)++price+chart&chts=000000,12&chs=700x420&chf=bg,s,ffffff|c,s,ffffff&chxt=x,y&chxl=0:||2000|2001|2002|2003|2004|2005|2006|2007|2008|2009|2010|1:||1:|84.1|105.1|188.8|272.4|356.1|439.7&cht=lc&chd=t:24,25,24,24,26,26,25,25,27,29,29,29,30,29,30,29,31,29,28,28,28,28,28,28,28,28,28,28,28,30,34,37,43,43,40,37,34,34,32,32,32,30,30,34,33,34,37,38,38,37,38,38,37,35,34,32,34,34,36,35,35,34,34,32,33,32,33,34,36,38,37,37,38,41,40,41,44,44,46,43,45,48,48,46,45,45,45,45,45,51,54,59,74,76,73,84,84,97,100,82,75,79,75,75,67,54,52,50,54,51,53,53,60,58,51,48,43,45,48,47,46,44,43,44,41,36,45,56,62,61,62&chdl=($/mt)&chco=000099&chls=3,1,0

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jan 2nd, 2011 at 10:38pm
Congressman Roscoe Bartlett on Peak Oil

[Part 1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lwkyqFB-34

[Part 2]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=506-2_zxYns&feature=related

[Part 3]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyliwrgbLvo&feature=related

[Part 4]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwEZqOek0KQ&feature=related

[Part 5]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNYNuGlDXLo&feature=related

[Part 6]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llQIfZXt_88&feature=related

[Part 7]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvAdLvaCx70&feature=related

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jan 2nd, 2011 at 11:10pm
Peak Oil - Robert Hirsch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FR86-9MGqZ0&feature=related

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jan 5th, 2011 at 5:48pm




Pretty clear which direction Oil Production has been going & is likely to go in the future!

And, I would suggest that Pricing is mainly the market reacting to Demand & Supply.

The initial escalation starting in 2002 was Demand outstripping supply, which reaching a Peak in 2008, before a crashing Global Economy sent Demand plummeting, followed by a declining Price.

Oil Prices have doubled between early 2009 and now, as the Global Economy has supposedly recovered and the Price may go still a little higher, before the Energy Cost to GDP ratio (plus other factors),  again sends the Global Economy into a downward spiral and along with it lower Energy Demand & lower Oil costs.

So, this is where we are, until the linkage is broken by apparent Oil shortages (rationing) &/or the other factors such as -
1) Demograhpics (Aging & Slowing Population Growth)
2) Debt
3) Climate Change



Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jan 6th, 2011 at 8:08pm
The Financial Crisis was NOT caused by Peak Oil

Personally, I mark the "public" moment of this financial crisis to July 2007, when two Bear Stearns hedge funds were both completely wiped out. Neither had anything to do with oil or oil trades. Both were highly leveraged funds that were simply in way over their heads. And those funds were symptomatic of the entire financial industry at that time.


The signs of the impending collapse had been building for a while. A few people had been pointing to the "Greenspan bubble" as early as 2005. I freely admit that I missed those calls in the 2004-2005 period but I won't deny that some people did make them. And that was well before oil prices spiked. So the fix was in long before.

The Greenspan bubble (or the last Greenspan bubble) came in response to the dot-com bust which was caused by the prior Greenspan bubble. See a pattern here yet? That prior Greenspan bubble happened during the era of $10 oil. Peak oil didn't burst that bubble either. The bubble popped because all such bubbles pop. And the reason it popped was nothing to do with oil prices and everything to do with herding behaviors as the herd recognized in a very short time frame that they had been sold a bill of goods.

Likewise the current bubble burst as toxic mortgages began failing causing the MBS based on those securities to fail, leading to catastrophic losses, starting with (for example) some of those hedge funds I mentioned. Again, this had nothing to do with peak oil and everything to do with herding behavior, as the holders of MBS began to realize that these securities would never pay back the capital invested in them, let alone the interest promised. None of these people cared about peak oil or were formulating positions based on peak oil. They were simply interested in recouping their capital and hopefully their promised profits, but if not, at least their capital. Instead they suffered massive losses of capital and zero profits because the financial instruments involved were created deliberately as acts of fraud by the banks that created them.

Did Peak Oil cause the Great Depression? Did Peak Oil cause the dot-com bust? Did Peak Oil cause the Tulip mania? Did Peak Oil cause the large recession after the Civil War? If it did not (and it did not, trust me) then why should I believe that "this time it's different"? The onus of proof is on those making the extraordinary claim that Peak Oil caused this recession. Yet I have never seen real proof that this is so. Sure, you can point to some correlations between oil price and financial crisis, but I can point to correlations of oil price and prior financial crisis before oil peaked in North America. Correlation is not causation. To establish causation requires a whole lot more work than just plotting a graph showing correlation and then proclaiming "See!" And that, so far, is all that anyone has done.

Peak oil will place a hard cap on the scope of recovery of the global economy, since the global economy is based on fossil fuels (primarily oil). That hard cap will limit and frustrate all political responses to the financial crisis and in the end, peak oil may be part of the cause of the fall of some governments over the next few decades. The natural limits to growth that we are approaching are going to affect us. Those limits were already impacting businesses that deal with energy and will slowly creep out to impact all of society. But peak oil did not cause human greed to run rampant. And peak oil won't stop human greed from trying to run rampant yet again someday. Remember that.

Link -
http://intothegreyzone.blogspot.com/2011/01/financial-crisis-was-not-caused-by-peak.html
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What a load of CRAP!

What's so difficult here, different issues, at different times, have or may have, different causes!

1929 had different causes to today and so did the early 1970's, the early 1980's and what happened after 9/11.  

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jan 6th, 2011 at 10:15pm
High Oil Prices Will Lead to an Oil Exploration Boom in 2011

Oil is like any other commodity: if price go up, people will produce more of it to sell. Despite the bleatings of peak oil sheep, oil companies are responding to recently elevated oil prices. Many are in fact scrambling to find and produce more oil.

From giants Saudi Aramco and Exxon Mobil Corp. to five-person wildcat outfits, the industry plans to spend nearly a half-trillion dollars next year to find and extract oil and natural gas, according to a new survey by investment bank Barclays Capital.

For the first time in several years, large Western oil companies are leading the industry's charge, increasing their budgets faster than the state-run national oil companies that have dominated spending in recent years.

"This is being driven by the appetite to find more oil, comfort that today's oil prices will be sustained and companies getting out of a hunker-down, recession mode," said James West, an energy analyst with Barclays, who co-authored the survey, which has been produced every year since 1982. _Rigzone

The key question oil executives as themselves is, "Will the high prices of oil stay high?" During the speculative runup in oil prices from 2007-2008, it was clear to most wise analysts that the high prices could not last. And indeed oil prices crashed to relatively low levels in 2009.

Oil has always been a boom and bust industry, with multiple price elevations followed inevitably by price crashes, and so on. That is one reason for the formation of OPEC -- the perceived need to maintain a stable price level for oil.

More on the investing side from Phil McPherson:

With the economy recovering, and as more people feel that the double-dip recession is not going to happen, oil prices are tending to stay stronger. However, it seems to me the tail is wagging the dog right now, with the U.S. dollar going down and the price of bonds being up, and the yield being extremely low. To me, it has more to do with the price of oil than necessarily the pure supply and demand fundamentals, because we still have excess supply of oil via OPEC. If you're bullish on oil or bullish on the economy, then you use those dips as opportunities to gain more exposure.

...But as with any business, when the demand is there and the visibility is there, entrepreneurs rise up to the challenge because they know they can make money. I think you're going to be surprised that in 2011 the likes of Halliburton Co. (NYSE:HAL) and Schlumberger Ltd. (NYSE:SLB), as well as lot of other smaller companies, are going to have more crews out working. There's going to be enough demand there. It's all a function of oil prices, and as long as they are in this relative range, people are going to continue to drill these wells. I don't think margin makes as much of an impact as the NAV that you can grow with these companies via drilling these wells and growing reserves. _IBTimes

The world is floating in hydrocarbons. North American shale gas has barely gotten started, and the technology for repeating that miracle is in high demand worldwide -- from Israel to China to South America.

As long as current oil prices remain above $70 (2010 dollars), exploration and production will continue to accelerate for both oil and wet gas. Higher prices -- above US $80, will spur even greater investment and faster development.

The next time someone tells you there is no flexibility in oil production, and that demand for hydrocarbons absolutely must continue to rise exponentially, you would be wise to bid the person a good day, and seek other companionship.

Link -
http://oilprice.com/Energy/Oil-Prices/High-Oil-Prices-Will-Lead-to-an-Oil-Exploration-Boom-in-2011.html
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What a load of CRAP!

As can be seen from the following chart, the Oil Price had been on the rise since 2002, before Peaking in 2008, diving to a low in early 2009 and it has since been surging upward again.

During all that time, with the massive Pricing incentive, what did Production do?

It hovered around, within a fairly narrow band, it did not keep up with Population or Demand increases and it certainly did nothing in response to the massive Pricing increases since 2002!  

Why has production not given the "Capitalist Response"?

Because most of the older established fields are Peaking and going into permanent decline and the newer, smaller fields coming on-stream are not of sufficient size to offset the depleting older fields.

So Production has now Plateaued, ahead of the inescapable, permanent post Peak downhill slid, of the Hubbert bell curve!

The next time someone tells you, "The world is floating in hydrocarbons", you would be wise to bid the person a good day!



Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jan 9th, 2011 at 11:46am
Rare Earths Shortage Becoming Problem For Refiners

HOUSTON (Dow Jones)--The skyrocketing cost of rare-earth metals coming out of China is pushing up the cost of gasoline production in the U.S., the latest sign of the wide-reaching impact of Beijing's decision to restrict exports of the minerals.

Prices for some of the chemicals refiners use to process gasoline have risen exponentially after China, which controls about 95% of the world's rare-earth supply, said it would slash exports of the metals by 35% in 2011. The increase could raise gasoline production costs by about a penny a gallon and potentially lead some refiners to cut back on fuel production, and is expected to become a topic in many refiners' earnings conference calls in the first quarter of 2011.

Rare earths, elements that go into high-tech batteries, television sets and military technology, are also used in the catalyst component of refiners' gasoline-making fluid catalytic cracking units, or FCCUs. Although rare earths account for only up to 4% of catalysts used in these units, their recent price increase has added as much as an extra 25% to catalyst costs, according to the National Petrochemical and Refiners Association, a group representing the sector.

Refiners acknowledged that catalyst costs were growing but declined to elaborate.

Link -
http://www.thelion.com/bin/forum.cgi?tf=wall_street_pit&msg=2064324&cmd=r&t=

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jan 13th, 2011 at 12:13pm
One of the comments following this article -
"If the available amount of net energy is declining, in particular despite increasing extracted volumes of various types of hydrocarbons, then humanity is collectively in trouble..."




From the article -
"I mention this because as 2010 comes to a close, it appears that for the fifth year in a row the peak production year of 2005–in which the world produced oil at an average, annual rate of 73.718 mbpd–will once again not be exceeded. This is truly an astonishing result given that a new pricing era for oil began in 2004 as oil rose above 40.00 dollars a barrel. For over five years national oil companies and publicly traded oil companies have been free to sell oil into an ever-rising price environment. But no increase in global crude oil production has been forthcoming. Moreover, during the five year period from 2006-2010, global crude oil production actually fell in three of those years: 2006, 2007, and 2009. Equally notable is that OPEC–which currently accounts for about 42% of global supply– has been roughly steady in producing 30-32 mbpd each year during the same same period while Non-OPEC, accounting for 58% of world production has struggled with decline. | see: Global Annual Average Crude Oil Production in mbpd 2001-2010."

Link -
http://www.theoildrum.com/node/7349#comments_top=========================
A few observations -
1) The plateau/decline in Production started in 2005, well prior to the late 2007 financial implosion, as did the rise in Oil & general Energy Pricing.
2) The Non-OPEC Production has struggled, despite the Canadian Tar Sands & the large spike in Russian Production.
3) Despite a perfect opportunity to utilise the much vaunted OPEC spare capacity, in a situation of lower than required overall Production & rising Prices, we have actually seen a flat total OPEC production & a decline in Saudi Production.

So, what is the likely outcome to the above highlighted comment ?
It is! (declining)
And, WE ARE! (in trouble)

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jan 13th, 2011 at 1:52pm
New low fuel consumption Vehicle (Carcycle)



Low on Fossil Fuel Consumption!

Too bad about the speed!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jan 20th, 2011 at 8:55pm
Richard Heinberg: Peak Oil and the Globe's Limitations

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeRTCepmkqQ&feature=player_embedded#!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jan 23rd, 2011 at 10:05pm
Where's the rest of the oil?

While pessimists fear that the planet's oil supply will run out in the not too distant future, BP's latest deal with Russia's Rosneft to drill in the Arctic appears to tell a different story.

When BP first formed an alliance with Rosneft in 1998 to develop the Sakhalin fields in the Pacific Ocean, the UK oil giant estimated Russia's oil reserves at 56 billion barrels.

When BP agreed its share-swap with the Moscow-based energy group last weekend, the estimate was 75 billion barrels, and development of Rosneft's licences inside the Arctic Circle could increase production enormously.

Such advances undermine the pessimists' predictions that the world's oil will imminently run out. In 1956, when the concept of "peak oil" – the point at which production starts falling – was formulated, US output was expected to fall from the late 1960s. But new discoveries have constantly pushed that date back. BP was estimating world oil reserves at 1 trillion barrels 20 years ago: now, despite record consumption, the estimate is 1.333 trillion.

In the developed world at least, energy consumption has flattened and may already have started a permanent decline. Demand fell by 1.1 per cent in 2009, although that may have had as much to do with short-term recession as with long-term efficiencies and changes in usage.

Francis Osborne, an analyst at energy consultants Wood Mackenzie, believes that demand has now bounced back and is heading for new records. "Just three years from the onset of the great recession, global oil demand has recovered to the pre-recession peak seen in 2007," he says.

"By 2012, we expect OECD demand to still be more than 5 per cent below pre-recession levels, while demand in the emerging markets will by 6.5 million barrels a day higher."

Even with Western economies picking up, BP expects that disparity to continue. It revealed projections last week that it normally reserves for internal use but which show OECD energy demand rising at just 0.3 per cent a year over the next two decades – and consumption per head falling – with domestic users and service businesses accounting for all that growth while manufacturing and transport usage falls. However, other countries' consumption will increase by 2.6 per cent annually, says BP, meaning that emerging markets will use 68 per cent more power in 2030 than today.

That extra demand puts pressure on the world's reserves of oil, natural gas and coal. BP reckons that the 1.333 trillion barrels of known oil reserves are sufficient to last for just over 45 years – though time estimates vary greatly. Saudi Arabia has sufficient supplies to meet its needs for 66 years and Iraq has enough for 142 years, while the US would run out by 2018 if it did not import.

Russia is already the world's top oil and gas producer: its equivalent of 18 million barrels of oil a day now exceeds America's 17 million and is far ahead of Saudi Arabia's 11 million. But while the extent of its reserves is constantly being revised upward, so too are those of many other countries.

In 1980, BP estimated Nigeria's reserves at 16.7 billion barrels; now it says they are 36.2 billion. During that time, estimates of Libya's reserves have been increased from 20 billion to 44 billion, Venezuela's from under 20 billion to almost 100 billion and Iraq's from 30 billion to 115 billion.

New discoveries are running at 15 billion to 20 billion barrels a year, meeting at least half the global consumption.

Link -
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/analysis-and-features/wheres-the-rest-of-the-oil-2191856.html
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A couple of observations -
1) Why would anyone trust the Oil industy figures for Reserves?
The article points out that BP's Global Estimated Reserves 20 years ago was 1 Trillion Barrels.
Since 1990, according to "official" EIA figures, we (humans) have Consumed Oil at an Annual average of 75 Billion Barrels, which equates to 1.5 Trillion Barrels.
The BP article also says that New Oil discoveries have been in the range of 15-20 Billion Barrels a year, it also says that the current Reserves are 1.33 Trillion barrels.

Do the maths and see how it works out???
I'll give you a hint, if these Reserves are done similar to how OPEC does theirs why would you trust them.

OPEC, back in the 1980's looked to set up a production system for each member country, based on the size of the countries Reserves, so over night each country massively increased the size of their Reserves, without finding a drop of new Oil and that is where their Reserves figures have stayed, no upward or downward movement, right thru until today.

2) The article says that the 1.333 trillion barrels of known oil reserves are sufficient to last for just over 45 years – though time estimates vary greatly.

Well, my maths must be different, because even at the same rate of Consumption, as the last 20 years, which was 75 Billions per year, that is only enough for just under 18 years.

That not even current consumption or allowing for any Growth at all, that under 18 years Oil, at the average Consumption of the last 20 years, with what BP says are the current Reserves.

I should also say here that the Depletion of Existing fields, is far outstripping New Discoveries!

Please do the MATHS!!!


Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jan 24th, 2011 at 6:09pm
OPEC poised to dominate global energy markets

The OPEC domination of the global energy markets is set to grow, says BP in its just released BP Energy Outlook, and it made headlines all over the globe, sending shivers through some spines. The outlook underlined that world is entering an era of OPEC dominance over the markets.

BP’s forecast shows that over the next 20 years OPEC will become as powerful as it was in its golden years in the 70’s — in the immediate aftermath of the 1973 Arab oil embargo. BP Energy Outlook 2030 predicts that the OPEC would see its market share rise to 46 per cent from the current 40 percent, over the coming two decades — “a position not seen since 1977.”

With 75 percent of growth in global oil reserves over the next two decades, to come from OPEC nations, Kuwait, Iran, Angola, Libya, Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Nigeria, its market share is bound to go up.


And now, with unrestrained non-OPEC oil-output growth slowing, global inventories are set to slide, making OPEC a much more potent market force than in recent times.

The BP Energy Outlook also confirms that the world will need to explore in remote regions, like the Arctic and deeper water than ever before, if it is to keep pace with a 1.7 percent annual rise in consumption — a 39 percent increase over 20 years, to about 102 million bpd by 2030, an increase of 16.5 million bpd from today’s level.

Saudi Arabia should be able to add another 3 million barrels, and the output addition from Iraq is to be significant too, from the current 2.5 million bpd to 5.5 million bpd.

An additional 2 million bpd of production should come from Canada’s controversial oil sands, while biofuels made from corn or sugar are predicted to provide a huge 5 million bpd.

The BP projections make it clear that oil will probably be the slowest growing source of energy, with huge extra demand for renewable, gas and coal also adding to pressure on the world’s resources. Oil is currently the dominant source of world energy, closely followed by coal, on which China is dependent for much of its industrial fuel.


In the meantime, brushing aside the Peak Oil theorists, Iraq and Venezuela are now claiming to have considerably larger reserves than earlier thought. As per, Iraq’s Oil Ministry’s official spokesman, Assem Jihad, Iraq’s oil reserves have now touched 500 billion barrels. “The size of Iraq’s oil reserves has reached about 500 billion barrels nowadays, whilst the previous oil reserves had reached 143 billion barrels,” Jihad said, adding that the above increase represent the 64 oil fields only.

And Venezuela is also claiming to have overtaken Saudi Arabia as the world leader in oil reserves with certified deposits leaping to 297 billion barrels at the end of 2010, President Hugo Chavez’s government said last week.

Link -
http://arabnews.com/economy/article240174.ece
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All sorts of claims can be made about Reserves & spare capacity and have been previously!

That said, the test of these claims is ACTUAL PRODUCTION and the last 5 years tells a tale, whislt the next 5 years will tell an even bigger tale.

Following are the top producing nations, in Thousands of Barrels per  Day (Total Oil Supply), from 2005 to 2010, as provided by the EIA -

Russia - 9,677; 9,878; 9,794; 9,933; 10,126
Saudi Arabia - 10,665; 10,248 10,783; 9,759; 10,017
United States - 8,330; 8,456; 8,514; 9,155; 9,563
Iran - 4,149; 4,039; 4,179; 4,176; 4,253
China - 3,865; 3,925; 3,986; 3,995; 4,234
Canada - 3,286; 3,433; 3,331; 3,294; 3,311
Mexico - 3,709; 3,500; 3,186; 3,001; 2,992
United Arab Emirates - 2,948; 2,947; 3,046; 2,794; 2,811
Brazil - 2,164; 2,282; 2,439; 2,577; 2,720
Kuwait - 2,662; 2,603; 2,728; 2,496; TBA
Nigeria - 2,442; 2,352; 2,168; 2,211; 2,434
Iraq - 2,009; 2,096; 2,385; 2,400; 2,399
Venezuela - 2,803; 2,666; 2,638; 2,471; 2,354
Norway - 2,786; 2,564; 2,463; 2,350; 2,118
Kazakhstan - 1,387; 1,445; 1,430; 1,540; 1,598
Qatar - 1,138; 1,121; 1,203; 1,212; 1,397
United Kingdom (Offshore) - 1,602; 1,601; 1,502; 1,422; 1,319

Link -
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/cfapps/ipdbproject/iedindex3.cfm?tid=5&pid=57&aid=1&cid=regions&syid=2006&eyid=2010&unit=TBPD

The future will see if Reserves or Production tell the real story!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jan 27th, 2011 at 10:14pm
James Howard Kunstler talks about Peak Oil and Financial Decline
I do not agree with him in some points, but his idea about post-oil era urban design is worth to listen and at least, he is entertaining.

http://catchnresearch.blogspot.com/2011/01/james-howard-kunstler-talks-about-peak.html

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jan 30th, 2011 at 10:30pm
On the Edge with Max Kaiser-Peak oil story-01-27-2011-(Part1)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUrW76SB7xM


On the Edge with Max Kaiser-Peak oil story-01-27-2011-(Part2)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tuwxw-tpoqk&feature=related


Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jan 31st, 2011 at 7:45pm
On the Edge with Max Kaiser-Peak oil story-01-27-2011- (Part 3)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Thvjr56uXc&feature=player_embedded#

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Feb 4th, 2011 at 8:24pm
Robert Hirsch on Peak Oil

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA8Nf2Krg-o&feature=player_embedded#

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o6nfpY0u4U&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3dMqwrLz6w&feature=related
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Robert Hirsch interview with Jim Puplava, well worth the time!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Feb 4th, 2011 at 8:45pm
Peak Oil 101: A Closer Look at Oil Production and Demand



Take a good long hard look at that chart. The Saudis say they can ramp up production at any time. Their peak production occurred in 2005. That’s funny. Matt Simmons said peak worldwide production would occur in 2005. When prices skyrocketed in 2008, the Saudis did not reach their previous peak production of 2005. Why? Did they not want to make billions of profits? Only a fool would pass up such riches, unless they just didn’t really have the ability to produce more.

Now Saudi production is 14% below 2008 levels.

According to the IEA:
Global oil product demand for 2010 and 2011 is revised up by an average of 320 kb/d on higher-than-expected submissions, reflecting buoyant global economic growth and cold northern hemisphere weather. Global oil demand, assessed at 87.7 mb/d in 2010 (+2.7 mb/d year-on-year), rises by 1.4 mb/d to 89.1 mb/d in 2011.

World oil demand in 2011 will exceed the 2007 all-time peak demand by 2.4 million barrels per day.

Why would the Saudis be producing at 14% below 2008 levels when worldwide demand in 2011 will reach an all-time high?

Peak oil is here, people. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck - it's probably a duck.



Link -
http://seekingalpha.com/article/250672-peak-oil-101-a-closer-look-at-oil-production-and-demand
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Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by pansi1951 on Feb 9th, 2011 at 4:13pm
WikiLeaks cables: Saudi Arabia cannot pump enough oil to keep a lid on prices

US diplomat convinced by Saudi expert that reserves of world's biggest oil exporter have been overstated by nearly 40%

The US fears that Saudi Arabia, the world's largest crude oil exporter, may not have enough reserves to prevent oil prices escalating, confidential cables from its embassy in Riyadh show.

The cables, released by WikiLeaks, urge Washington to take seriously a warning from a senior Saudi government oil executive that the kingdom's crude oil reserves may have been overstated by as much as 300bn barrels – nearly 40%.

The revelation comes as the oil price has soared in recent weeks to more than $100 a barrel on global demand and tensions in the Middle East. Many analysts expect that the Saudis and their Opec cartel partners would pump more oil if rising prices threatened to choke off demand.

However, Sadad al-Husseini, a geologist and former head of exploration at the Saudi oil monopoly Aramco, met the US consul general in Riyadh in November 2007 and told the US diplomat that Aramco's 12.5m barrel-a-day capacity needed to keep a lid on prices could not be reached.

According to the cables, which date between 2007-09, Husseini said Saudi Arabia might reach an output of 12m barrels a day in 10 years but before then – possibly as early as 2012 – global oil production would have hit its highest point. This crunch point is known as "peak oil".

Husseini said that at that point Aramco would not be able to stop the rise of global oil prices because the Saudi energy industry had overstated its recoverable reserves to spur foreign investment. He argued that Aramco had badly underestimated the time needed to bring new oil on tap.

One cable said: "According to al-Husseini, the crux of the issue is twofold. First, it is possible that Saudi reserves are not as bountiful as sometimes described, and the timeline for their production not as unrestrained as Aramco and energy optimists would like to portray."

It went on: "In a presentation, Abdallah al-Saif, current Aramco senior vice-president for exploration, reported that Aramco has 716bn barrels of total reserves, of which 51% are recoverable, and that in 20 years Aramco will have 900bn barrels of reserves.

"Al-Husseini disagrees with this analysis, believing Aramco's reserves are overstated by as much as 300bn barrels. In his view once 50% of original proven reserves has been reached … a steady output in decline will ensue and no amount of effort will be able to stop it. He believes that what will result is a plateau in total output that will last approximately 15 years followed by decreasing output."

Read the rest of the article at:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/feb/08/saudi-oil-reserves-overstated-wikileaks


Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Feb 9th, 2011 at 5:11pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Feb 9th, 2011 at 4:13pm:
WikiLeaks cables: Saudi Arabia cannot pump enough oil to keep a lid on prices

US diplomat convinced by Saudi expert that reserves of world's biggest oil exporter have been overstated by nearly 40%

The US fears that Saudi Arabia, the world's largest crude oil exporter, may not have enough reserves to prevent oil prices escalating, confidential cables from its embassy in Riyadh show.

The cables, released by WikiLeaks, urge Washington to take seriously a warning from a senior Saudi government oil executive that the kingdom's crude oil reserves may have been overstated by as much as 300bn barrels – nearly 40%.

The revelation comes as the oil price has soared in recent weeks to more than $100 a barrel on global demand and tensions in the Middle East. Many analysts expect that the Saudis and their Opec cartel partners would pump more oil if rising prices threatened to choke off demand.

However, Sadad al-Husseini, a geologist and former head of exploration at the Saudi oil monopoly Aramco, met the US consul general in Riyadh in November 2007 and told the US diplomat that Aramco's 12.5m barrel-a-day capacity needed to keep a lid on prices could not be reached.

According to the cables, which date between 2007-09, Husseini said Saudi Arabia might reach an output of 12m barrels a day in 10 years but before then – possibly as early as 2012 – global oil production would have hit its highest point. This crunch point is known as "peak oil".

Husseini said that at that point Aramco would not be able to stop the rise of global oil prices because the Saudi energy industry had overstated its recoverable reserves to spur foreign investment. He argued that Aramco had badly underestimated the time needed to bring new oil on tap.

One cable said: "According to al-Husseini, the crux of the issue is twofold. First, it is possible that Saudi reserves are not as bountiful as sometimes described, and the timeline for their production not as unrestrained as Aramco and energy optimists would like to portray."

It went on: "In a presentation, Abdallah al-Saif, current Aramco senior vice-president for exploration, reported that Aramco has 716bn barrels of total reserves, of which 51% are recoverable, and that in 20 years Aramco will have 900bn barrels of reserves.

"Al-Husseini disagrees with this analysis, believing Aramco's reserves are overstated by as much as 300bn barrels. In his view once 50% of original proven reserves has been reached … a steady output in decline will ensue and no amount of effort will be able to stop it. He believes that what will result is a plateau in total output that will last approximately 15 years followed by decreasing output."

Read the rest of the article at:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/feb/08/saudi-oil-reserves-overstated-wikileaks

I note the last 2 paragraphs of the article say -
In the last two years, other senior energy analysts have backed Husseini. Fatih Birol, chief economist to the International Energy Agency, told the Guardian last year that conventional crude output could plateau in 2020, a development that was "not good news" for a world still heavily dependent on petroleum.

Jeremy Leggett, convenor of the UK Industry Taskforce on Peak Oil and Energy Security, said: "We are asleep at the wheel here: choosing to ignore a threat to the global economy that is quite as bad as the credit crunch, quite possibly worse."


I agree that it's not good news, but I disagree that conventional crude could plateau in 2020, it already did, starting in 2005!

I also agree with Jeremy Legget, the "Energy Crunch" will be worse than the "Credit Crunch"!


The article also backs up the assertion that none of the players in this game, can be trusted, any further than we can kick them!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Feb 9th, 2011 at 8:12pm
Saudi Oil Production and Reserves - Reasons Behind Wikileaks Concerns

Saudi Arabia tells us that they have lots of oil, but if we look at graphs of their historical production, there is nothing that looks like an upward trend. In fact, recent production is lower than it was in the late 1970s and early 1980s. This is a graph of Saudi oil production, consumption, and amount of net exports, from Energy Exports Databrowser.



Exports, in green, are down because Saudi Arabia is consuming more and more of its own oil, so there is less available for others. This graph doesn't fit well with what we have been told.

The rest of the Middle East claims huge reserves, too, but looking at the Mideast in total doesn't give a much more favorable picture. While production is a bit higher in total now, exports (in green) are down from the 1970s because of rising consumption.



It is almost certain that the Saudis are overstating their capabilities. The reserves for Saudi Arabia and the rest of the Middle East are not audited, nor are their supposed "spare production capacities." They may have some spare capacity, but not the amount stated. When oil prices spiked to $147 barrel in July 2008, Saudi Arabia and others in the Middle East increased their production a bit, did not really come through with a huge surge in production, the way one would expect from their suppose spare capacity.

World oil supply has been roughly flat since 2005. Many are concerned that oil production will actually begin to fall in the next year or two - what is referred to as "peak oil" in the Wikileaks cable.



Links to other Posts Relating to Overstatement of Saudi Reserves and Production Capability, are provided in the article.

Link -
http://www.theoildrum.com/node/7465
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A couple of observations -
1) Saudi, Middle East & World Production has been pretty well static since 2005.
2) There is a small, but discernable gap opening up, between Consumption & Production and when (not if) this widens further, that is when the Problems rachet up considerably!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Feb 14th, 2011 at 9:57pm
Oil Decline Rate and Population

The rapid increase in the world’s population over the last hundred years is not merely coincident with the rapid increase in oil production. It is the latter that has actually allowed (the word “caused” might be too strong) the former: that is to say, oil has been the main source of energy within industrial society. It is only with abundant oil that a large population is possible. It was industrialization, improved agriculture, improved medicine, the expansion of humanity into the Americas, and so on, that first created the modern rise in population, but it was oil in particular that made it possible for human population to grow as fast as it has been doing (Catton, 1982). When oil production drops to half of its peak amount, world population must also drop by half.

A good deal of debate has gone on about “peak oil,” the date at which the world’s annual oil production will reach (or did reach) its maximum and will begin (or did begin) to decline. The exact numbers are unobtainable, mainly because individual countries give rather inexact figures on their remaining supplies. The situation can perhaps be summarized by saying that at least 20 or 30 major studies have been done, and the consensus is that the peak is somewhere in the first or second decade of this century.

Most major studies place the date of “peak oil” somewhere between 2001 and 2020, and within that period a middle date seems rather more likely (Campbell, 2004, 2009; Gever et al, 1991; Oil Drum, 2010, February 4; Oxford University, 2010, March 23; Petrole, 2010, March 25; Simmons, 2006; Youngquist, 2000, October; 2008).

For years the main anomalies have been some American government forecasts: those of the Energy Information Administration (EIA) of the US Department of Energy, and those of the US Geological Survey. However, Robert L. Hirsch of the US Department of Energy in 2005 produced “The Inevitable Peaking of World Oil Production,” the famous “Hirsch Report,” which begins with the sentence, “The era of plentiful, low-cost petroleum is reaching an end.” He goes on to say that “oil production is in decline in 33 of the world’s 48 largest oil-producing countries” (Hirsch, 2005, October, p. 5).

After the “peak” itself, the next question is that of the annual rate of decline. Estimates tend to hover around 3 or 4 percent, which means production will fall to half of peak production by about 2030.

One solution that is sometimes proposed for the dilemma of fossil-fuel decline is a global campaign for the humane implementation of rapid population decline. With all due respect for the attempt to find a satisfying answer to the question of overpopulation, such a proposal would conflict with the available data on the rate of decline in fossil fuels. The annual rate of population decline, in a civilization in which fossil fuels are by far the most important sources of energy, must roughly equal the 3-percent (if not greater) annual rate of fossil-fuel decline.

Unfortunately there is no practical humane means of imposing a similar annual rate of decline on the world’s population. If we allow the loss of petroleum to take its course, a decline of 3 percent would result in a drop in world population to half its present level, i.e. to 3.5 billion, by about the year 2030. The only means, however, would be a rather grim one: famine.

A deliberate global campaign of rapid population decline, even with the immediate implementation of an utterly hypothetical fertility rate of zero (i.e. the implementation of a “zero-child policy”), would have far less dramatic results. The rate of population decline would exactly equal the death rate. (This is true by definition: “growth rate” equals “birth rate” minus “death rate”, and we have already postulated that “birth rate” would be zero.) The present death rate is only about 1 percent (CIA, 2010). At such a rate of decline, the global population in the year 2030 would still be about 5.7 billion. There would therefore be no means for a program of planned population decline to work before the effects of fossil-fuel depletion took their own toll. (Such figures, of course, disregard any other possible catastrophic future events such as famine [the above-mentioned means that is likely to prevail], disease, war, and a thousand other side-effects of societal breakdown.)

I’m quite aware of the fact that discussion of demographic rates of any sort as fixed numbers only makes sense with a short time span. But that’s exactly what I’m doing. I’m talking about the next two decades. That’s short in terms of the events I’m discussing. So, yes, with a population that will obviously age (because of the hypothetical zero birth rate), the death rate will increase slightly. In very rough figures, yes, it will go from 1 percent to 2 percent. However, even that 2 percent does not match the 3 to 4 percent annual decline in oil production. The basic point remains the same: that is it utterly impossible, using any techniques short of mass murder (e.g., biochemical warfare and other techniques of the Dr. Strangelove variety), to reduce the population rapidly enough.

Link -
http://www.populationmedia.org/2011/02/10/oil-decline-rate-and-population/
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Over 2 Billion Baby Boomers are set to retire, the leave us forever, over the next 30-40 years, but that alone & over that duration will not be enough, Energy is the Key!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Feb 16th, 2011 at 1:05pm
Easter Island earth


Examine this picture closely. It is the scariest picture you will see in a long time. It is from the International Energy Agency’s World Energy Outlook 2010. The IEA is the energy policy research agency of the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), which represents the interests of the major developed market economies. Apparently.

So what’s so scary about this picture? The growing light blue wedge representing “Crude oil: fields yet to be found” is real cause for concern. Eliminate that growing wedge, and we do not have much more than five years before overall supply starts to decline.

The IEA argues that this is not a problem because any shortfall in supply will crank up prices, making it feasible to spend more on extraction - in effect squeezing more out of depleted fields. The problem with this prediction is that over the last three years while oil prices have hit new records and subsequently stayed well above the long-term historical inflation-corrected average of about US$30 per barrel, the IEA has downgraded their estimates of future supply with every annual Outlook. Another argument is that “unconventional” oil like tar sands will fill the gap but there again, the IEA’s forward estimates do not cover the shortfall.

Why would anyone deny such a problem? The motive of the industry is clear, and is the same as their reason for undermining the political consensus on climate change. The rational response - call it Plan A - to both peak oil and climate change is a gradual transition over decades from fossil fuels. Such a slow transition would result in a gradual diminution of fossil fuels sales and profits. On the other hand an abrupt transition arising from depletion of fossil fuels results in a massive profits windfall for the industry, when shortage of supply runs into inelastic demand.

Haven’t we heard this sort of prediction of doom before, going back to Malthus’s rather obvious observation in 1798 that exponential growth in demand has to hit limits of finite supply? The biggest factor in putting off a Malthusian day of reckoning is the mechanisation of agriculture, which relies heavily on oil. Take oil out of the picture, and I am awaiting a rational explanation as to how we could feed a human population of nearly 7-billion, set to peak at over 9-billion in 2050.

What relevance does Easter Island have to peak oil? Building renewable energy infrastructure takes energy. Until such time as renewables have reached critical mass, we will need fossil fuels to build that new technology. Wait too long, and we will not have the energy reserves to accomplish this task. The IEA’s 2010 projection suggests we do not have much time.

Will peak oil save us from climate change? The growing wedge of “unconventional” oil is a big worry: converting fuels like tar sands into oil-equivalent fuels is highly energy-intensive and if this sector has to grow faster than the IEA projects, we will hasten rather than slow the onset of serious climactic effects. There is also plenty of coal which, again, can be converted to liquid fuels at a high cost in added emissions. Leaving conversion to renewable energies so late increases the pressures to maximise use of these extremely dirty forms of energy.

To those climate change deniers who take comfort in the fact that they will only be proved wrong after their lifetimes and who hate their grandchildren: this one will happen soon. A planet-wide Easter Island collapse will not be a great time to be alive, and we are fast running out of time to avert just such a catastrophe. A Plan B world will include not only the risk of massive agricultural and industrial collapse but the marginalization into suburban slums of everyone who cannot afford to live near public transport or urban centres.

We have very little time left to act; the closer we can get to pulling back from a Plan B scenario to a Plan A scenario the better.

Link -
http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=11610&page=0
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Specially for those touting "Unconventional Oil" as a saviour, you will note that even the IEA shows that the contribution of things such as the Canadian Tar Sands will only be relatively small and that will come at a high cost to budgets & the environment.

Of course, there are actually two issues here, one is Production and the other is Demand.

It is apparent, even with IEA optimism that Production will run flat for some time, before finally starting to decline.

However, at the same time, Demand will continue to rise, due to the Global Population, which is still set to rise for around another 30-40 years and the "want" of existing people in many countries such as China, India, Russia & many islamic countries, who see what the Western countries have and understandably want that for themselves.

What we have brewing (aside from a pot of yeast), is a classical case of an irresistable force (demand) meeting an immoveable object (finite resources).

It's obvious what will win, but how it will play out (in reality) has yet to be written!


Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Feb 16th, 2011 at 8:12pm
Shell report predicts peak oil now or soon, ponders ‘Depression 2.0′

The industrial doomsday scenario put forward by peak oil theorists isn't just for far flung voices on the Internet anymore.

Peak oil is not a problem of Earth's supplies: there's plenty of oil in a variety of forms. The difficulty is in how much energy it takes to recover and process it. And if it hasn't happened already, soon the demand for energy commodities will soar past existing production capacity and crash headlong into the brick wall of declining discoveries.

The economic effects of this could be devastating to the human populations within industrialized societies, to say the least.  

That's not just the line from Noam Chomsky, Michael Rupert and Dmitry Orlov: the second largest company in the world, Shell International, a major player in the energy commodities industries, is saying it too.


In a recent "Signals & Signposts" report by Shell, forecasting energy scenarios through 2050, the oil giant predicted a growing volatility in the price of oil and a coming period of "extraordinary opportunity or misery."

As the demand for oil buts up against actual production and remaining reserves, the climbing price of oil will cause the gross domestic product of all nations to decline, they predict.

In another section, Shell calls these economic effects "Depression 2.0." Though that scenario is introduced as "unlikely," the rest of the report does not paint a rosy outlook.

Climate and environment
Shell predicts that as the energy industry struggles to meet global demand, "environmental tension will swell and spread."

They add: "Political, industrial and individual choices will determine whether these tensions can be resolved and whether the solutions will be benign or harmful to us."

Within what they called a "zone of uncertainty," energy entrepreneurs will have "extraordinary opportunity" for growth if the right assemblage of technology is made available. However, Shell adds that competition and "natural innovation" in energy efficiency would only account for a moderation in demand of about 20 percent by 2050.

Meanwhile, between 2000 and 2050, demand for easily accessible energy will triple, they predict.

China, Shell adds, is preparing to institute its own cap-and-trade system for regulating carbon emissions. Businesses around the world, they noted, have already largely started to accept that climate regulations will soon become a reality for global trade and have begun to budget accordingly.

But even the most rapid improvements in renewable technologies, like electric cars or microorganisms that convert captured carbon into liquid fuel, won't help much in the near term.

"New energy technologies must be demonstrated at commercial scale and require thirty years of sustained double-digit growth to build industrial capacity and grow sufficiently to feature at even 1-2% of the energy system," they wrote.

The bumpy peak
Shell predicts in clear terms what journalist Michael Rupert said in his recent film "Collapse": more shocks to the industry loom ahead, which will lead to increased price volatility, producing rapid inflation and deflation on the consumer level.

And if that phenomena hasn't already begun, they add, it will be in full-boar by the end of this decade.

Interestingly enough, Shell also predicts that "[the] longer the delay in climate policy action, the more likely shocks become."


One such example would be the potential for peak output in Saudi Arabia. If it were a reality and word got out that their fields would be in permanent decline, it could produce extreme price variations and social unrest amid worsening economic conditions. A series of US diplomatic cables from 2007-2009, published by secrets outlet WikiLeaks, revealed that the former head geologist in charge of exploration for the Saudi oil firm Aramco, who retired in 2004, has expressed very serious concerns that this was happening.

Link to article -
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/02/15/shell-report-predicts-peak-oil-now-or-soon-ponders-depression-2-0/

Link to full Shell Report -
http://www-static.shell.com/static/aboutshell/downloads/aboutshell/signals_signposts.pdf




Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Feb 16th, 2011 at 8:47pm
Peak Oil Is Real But The "Paper Barrels" Of Arab Countries Are Not

A lot of noise is being made about Wikileaks info that says the US thinks the Saudi’s are overstating their Proven Reserves by about 40%.

This isn’t news.  It has been known for years.  In the Mid-80’s the Arab producers decided, after the American and other foreign experts had been shown the door, they had more oil in the ground than was previously known.

Without having found any new fields, without any advancement in technology, some of the Arab oil producers announced increases in Proven Reserves of over 100%.  For some time, Wall Street referred to these fictitious numbers as “Paper Barrels” and ignored them.  But as time passed, they began to be accepted in the mainstream.

This is one of the major points of oilman Matt Simmons’ book - Twilight in the Desert.  He was in the business back in the early 80’s (and well before).  He knew the numbers were fictitious and called for independent verification of the reserves.

These charts should eliminate any comfort you might have felt thinking Saudi Arabia and the other Arab nations would be able to keep oil flowing for decades.

“Proven Reserves”
in Thousand Million Barrels, Source: BP’s Statistical Review Of World Energy 2010





Peak Oil - Not Just a Myth
Peak Oil is not when we run out of oil, it is when fields hit their “peak” and production declines.  The US has been in decline for decades.  Many other major producers have been in decline for years.

Most concerning is the OECD has been in decline for a decade and this means the Developed World is relying more and more on the Developing, and less friendly and stable, countries for its oil.

All the information below is from BP’s Statistical Review of World Energy 2010.  It shows that Peak Oil is not a future event, it is happening today and has been going on for years.







Link -
http://www.businessinsider.com/paper-barrels-peak-oil-2011-2
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In fact, the original OPEC countries "re-appraisals" of their "Proven Reserves", back in the 80's were done for the purpose of being allocated set export Production quotas, which were to be based on the "size of each countries proven reserves".

It is also interesting how the Production in many countries is now in Decline, along with their "Proven Reserves", but in some of these OPEC countries their "Proven" Reserves have stayed the same or even risen in a couple of instances, instead of declining like most countries!

In short, the OPEC "Proven Reserves", are anything but that!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Feb 17th, 2011 at 12:37pm
Exxon Struggles To Find New Oil

HOUSTON—Exxon Mobil Corp., the world's largest publicly traded oil company, is struggling to find more oil.

In its closely watched annual financial report released Tuesday, the company said that for every 100 barrels it has pumped out of the earth over the past decade, it has replaced only 95.  

It's a conundrum shared by most of the other large Western oil-producing companies, which are finding most accessible oil fields were tapped long ago, while promising new regions are proving technologically and politically challenging.


Exxon said in the report that it more than made up for the shortfall in oil by stocking up on natural gas, mostly through its acquisition of XTO Energy Inc. last year.

"The good old days are gone and not to be repeated," says Fadel Gheit, an analyst with Oppenheimer and Co. Bringing additional reserves from gas "is not going to give you the same punch" that oil would, he said.

Finding the equivalent, in either oil or natural gas, of a barrel in the earth for every one the company produces—a 100% reserve replacement rate—has become extraordinarily tough. Exxon boasted this was the 17th consecutive year of hitting this mark, but analysts agree that without the XTO deal, Exxon would have fallen far short this year.

The shift toward gas—and troubles with finding oil—has emerged as a theme for the giant Western oil companies. Royal Dutch Shell PLC's chief executive said last month the European company will produce more gas than oil next year for the first time in its 104-year history.

Exxon and others have also flocked to the oil-rich sands of Northern Alberta, Canada, but digging out the oil across vast swathes of forest comes at relatively high cost and generates concerns about the environmental impact.

Link -
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704409004576146362117313094.html
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The big oil companies are going backward on Reserves, unyet OPEC with many old fields is not???

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Feb 18th, 2011 at 8:20pm
Exxon Says Oil Is Running Out, GOP Lawmaker Says God Won’t Allow It

Exxon basically heralded the arrival of “peak oil” at its annual fiscal report on Tuesday, saying it can no longer find as much new oil in the ground as it refines above ground. The very same week, Minnesota Republican lawmaker Mike Beard insists that we should burn fossil fuels freely, because God will provide infinite natural resources, forever.

This, essentially, is “peak oil”—the hypothetical tipping point long feared by scientists and energy realists when the world’s finite oil supplies are depleted to the point where oil companies have to start working harder and harder for diminishing returns. Diminishing supply at higher cost, paired with ever-growing global demand, creates a massive, irreversible energy crisis. Hence, all the talk about “renewable energy” alternatives.

But one man who’s not buying it is Republican Minnesota state rep Mike Beard. “We are not going to run out of anything,” Beard recently said, arguing to resume coal mining in Minnesota. “God is not capricious. He’s given us a creation that is dynamically stable.”

Yesterday Bernie Madoff insisted the banks knew about his fraud, but exhibited “willful blindness” in order to keep doing business with him. Rep. Mike Beard told MinnPost “It is the height of hubris to think we could [destroy the earth].” In light of the real, hard evidence from oil companies like Exxon who say the earth is running out of easy-access oil, to insist that “we are not going to run out of anything” is the height of “willful blindness.”

If the crisis the financial industry invoked through it’s “willful blindness” is any indication, we should all be extremely concerned about the blindness of lawmakers like Beard. Damage to the environment, unlike financial markets, is relatively irreversible, and can’t be manipulated for a quick fix when crisis hits. When the poo hits the fan, it’s going to stick.

Link -
http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/54285/exxon-says-oil-is-running-out-gop-lawmaker-says-god-wont-allow-it/
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There really are Politicians, TPTB & members of the General Public that think like this on Energy, on Climate Change & other issues!

 

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Feb 23rd, 2011 at 12:41pm
Forgoing the argument over tax levels, government debt and the relative Economic effects for a moment, where I have difficulty is understanding the per litre comparison, at its peak in 2008 (around $1.60 a litre), versus the current & likely future pricing!

Australia is already at $1.40 a litre and given the recent rise in Oil prices it is likely that we will see $1.50 a litre over the next couple of weeks.

However, given the following, it is difficult to understand the Price movements, without considering Price gouging -
1) Oil is pre-dominantly purchased in US$'s, as is the case with Australia.

2) Our exchange rate against the USA is now averaging 3-4 cents better against than we did at its Peak in 2008.

3) The Peak Price of Oil per barrel in 2008 was US$147 and the current Price has been around the US$85-$91 range, with a surge over the last week or so, from US$84 to US$95-$96 today!
 

In respect of tax levels, government debt and the relative Economic effects, I would observe -
1) That it is disingenuous of any government to say that it is using a tax levy (Petrol &/or Carbon), as a means of lowering consumption.
Clearly, as has been seen from the Petrol levy, its has not lowered consumption, but it has raised government Revenue.
Both the Right & Left of Australian Politics has embraced this tax!

2) In terms of government Debt, the Petrol Levy, excise or whatever you want to call it, the Australia levy has contributed to a much better balanced Debt situation, than can be seen in the USA and other countries.
But, that balance is not solely due to the Petrol Tax, there are many contributing factors, with some coming from the Libs & some from the Labs.
From an overall perspective, both the Libs & the Labs have done better than most of their "colleagues" in other countries, but quite a bit less, than they should have done, over the last 50-60 years!

3) In terms of Economic Benefits, clearly Tax (Personal &/or Business) is part of the mix, but it is not the whole shooting match.

In the final analysis, a sustainable & balanced Economy, should be the overall, long term aim.

That objective has been disregarded, to greater & lesser extents, depending on which countries you look at, but from an overall perspective ME & NOW has been much more dominant than US & THEN.

Well, THEN (the future) has finally become NOW, but ME is still clearly in the ascendency!  

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Feb 24th, 2011 at 1:22pm
Oil Rises on Libyan Tensions; Yen Climbs, Asia Stocks Fluctuate

Feb. 24 (Bloomberg) -- Oil advanced for a sixth day in New York after reaching $100 a barrel as Libya’s violent uprising cut shipments from Africa’s third-biggest producer.  

“We’re having a natural reaction to the unrests with oil going above $100,” Todd Martin, Societe Generale’s Asia equity strategist, said in a Bloomberg Television interview in Hong Kong. “We could see GDP growth forecasts downgraded slightly.”

Brent crude gained as much as 1.8 percent to $113 a barrel on the London-based ICE Futures Europe exchange, taking its four-day rally to 10 percent. The April contract for West Texas Intermediate oil rose as much as $4.58 yesterday to touch $100, before settling at $98.10.

The fighting in Libya, which holds Africa’s largest oil reserves, is the most violent yet seen in six weeks of popular uprisings across the Middle East and North Africa, which have already unseated longtime rulers in Tunisia and Egypt.

Gold for immediate delivery gained 0.2 percent to $1,414.72 an ounce, within 1.2 percent of its record $1,431.225 an ounce on Dec 7.

The S&P 500 posted yesterday its biggest two-day slump in six months following the surge in oil prices. The slump in stocks worldwide has wiped out more than $1.2 trillion since Feb. 18, when global market values reached the highest level since June 2008, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

Link -
http://noir.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aV9gGzoHyYGA&pos=1
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WTI Oil is now $99.26 and it seems likely that both Oil & Gold will head higher and that the flow on from the Oil Price will make any Economic recovery, much more difficult!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Feb 25th, 2011 at 5:49pm
A Day of Rage

If you were in charge of manipulating the world’s financial markets today, what would you do? It wouldn’t be an easy job. If my job was to preserve the status quo for just a little bit longer and prevent the dollar crisis from unleashing even more geopolitical stability and falling stock prices, I’d try and get oil prices down. Pronto!

Today, it looks for all the world like governments (through central banks) are doing their best to prop up stock markets by driving down the price of oil and precious metals. The stock market is about the only instrument left that the authorities can use to make people feel richer. For Ben Bernanke and his crew of loyal Keynesians, it's imperative that new money flows into the stock market to keep people feeling wealthy.

--After all, what else is left on the household balance sheet in the Western World? House prices in most of the Western World (Australia infamously excepted) have fallen and destroyed trillions in equity. Wages are falling in the developed world as globalisation commodities labour. It means everyday low prices for goods made from Asia. But it means hollowed out manufacturing industries in mature economies.

--So yes. The only way to keep people from brooding on all that-and their seeming powerlessness to do anything about it - is to keep stock prices high. That makes everyone feel good. And the zeitgeist of the age is that how you feel about things matters more than the underlying reality of what's really happening.

--Trouble is, when Libyan oil production is down by 75%, people are going to start worrying that high oil prices could crash global growth. A severe oil shortage is just the sort of event to ruin everyone's day. It would make clear the simple fact that the U.S. dollar crash is going to be a far more disruptive event than the Lehman Brother's failure of 2008.

--But wait! How about Saudi spare capacity to the rescue!? Oil retreated overnight when the Saudis told everyone that there's more than enough oil to go around for everyone. The Saudis say that they have more than 4.4 million barrels per day in spare production capacity. With a full-strength Libya pumping out 1.2 million barrels per day, the Saudis would appear to have everything covered.

--See? Nothing to worry about. Stocks rallied and oil and gold fell on the Saudi assurances. Or is that what really happened?

--First, do the Saudis really have the oil? U.S. diplomats privately think the Saudis have over-stated their proven oil reserves by a whopping 40%, according to Wikileaks cables published by the Guardian in early February. This wasn't exactly news to people who've been following the story of Peak Oil for a while. But it might have been news to a lot of other people. Maybe there isn't as much cheap, easy-to-produce, high-grade crude oil as we thought.

--But the oil price could have fallen overnight for an entirely different reason. The Intercontinental Exchange (ICE) raised margin requirements on crude oil trading for the second time this week. It's expected other futures exchanges will follow suit. This is similar to action taken on other commodity contracts experiencing unusual volatility.

--Is it a transparent attempt to drive oil prices lower (and stock prices higher) by squeezing out speculators? Or is it a legitimate attempt to squeeze out destabilising speculation by oil traders? Or some of each?

--I asked Slipstream Trader Murray Dawes if he thought the ICE action was an attempt to rig the oil market by squeezing traders. Murray wrote back:
The futures markets do have the right to adjust the margin requirements when the volatility explodes outside of usual levels. A move such as the one we saw in oil markets over the last week would be enough to blow a lot of traders out of the water. I agree that it is a means to lower open positions at a time of high volatility, and thus affect the price. But the clearing house does have to make sure that market players have enough in their accounts to cover losses. If they don't then everything comes crumbling down.
--Murray is a sensible trader, whereas I am tempted to believe regulators are keen to muddle price signals. Why? High oil and energy prices tell the rest of the world there really is a dollar crisis. They tell investors and traders that Ben Bernanke's policies are inflationary...and that inflation is already a serious and politically destabilising problem in countries vulnerable to food and fuel inflation.

In the meantime, keep an eye out for March 11th. Facebook groups are popping up and calling for “a day of rage” in Saudi Arabia. This, of course, is what the oil market fears most: that the currency crisis roiling the Middle East makes its way to the world’s indispensable oil producer. Don’t count on oil prices being down for long.

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http://www.moneymorning.com.au/20110225/a-day-of-rage.html
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Nice pick up Pansi and it says, pretty much what I was thinking.

Nothing to do with "free markets", all about trying to "manipulate markets"!

And, in days gone bye, a perfectly productive and workable ploy.

Today, it simply confirms that TPTB will try anything to maintain the Status Quo, even though it won't work and is simply delaying the inevitable!

Delay? It may, but not for long.

Work? It can not!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Mar 1st, 2011 at 9:48pm
OPEC Oil Exports Fall 2% as Saudi Shipments Decline

Feb. 19 (Bloomberg) -- OPEC’s oil exports fell 2 percent in December from a month earlier as Saudi Arabia, the world’s largest exporter, reported a decrease of 4.9 percent.

Total exports by the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, excluding Algeria and the United Arab Emirates, fell by 387,000 barrels a day to 19.4 million barrels a day, the Joint Data Initiative website, which compiles data supplied by governments in an attempt to improve transparency, showed today.

Saudi Arabia’s exports fell to 6.05 million barrels a day in December from 6.36 million in November even as Saudi production rose to a two-year high of 8.37 million barrels a day, JODI said.


“This is a huge difference,” said John Sfakianakis, Chief Economist at Riyadh-based Banque Saudi Fransi, noting the 2.32 million barrel per day difference between what Saudi Arabia produced and its exports.


“It’s not clear if Saudi Arabia consumed the full 2.32 million barrels locally during that month, but what’s clear is that rise in local consumption is becoming eminent,” he said.

Energy demand in the kingdom will increase to more than 8 million barrels of oil equivalent a day by 2028, Hashim Yamani, president of King Abdullah City for Atomic and Renewable Energy, said at a conference in Riyadh on Jan. 23. That compared with 3.4 million barrels of oil equivalent a day last year.

Total world output fell 14 percent in December from a month earlier to 55.5 million barrels a day, the lowest since 2002, mainly due to a in non-OPEC production, particularly in Latin America, according to the incomplete JODI data.

JODI is under the supervision of the Riaydh-based International Energy Forum and its data goes back to 2002. JODI data is not complete since not all countries supply information.

Oil ministers and energy officials from 90 countries, including members of OPEC and the IEA, will sign a charter for the Forum in Riyadh on Feb. 22, host nation Saudi Arabia said yesterday.

The agreement is aimed at finding ways to stabilize oil markets and improve the collection and dissemination of supply, demand and price data.

Link -
http://noir.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aHqg9X2awgk0
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The worldwide decline is indeed steep and if it is a sign of future directions, then the years ahead will require urgent action!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Mar 2nd, 2011 at 8:49am
Oil Surges, Stocks Drop on Mideast Unrest; Gold Rises to Record

March 1 (Bloomberg) -- Oil surged to a 29-month high amid speculation unrest in the Middle East and northern Africa will disrupt supplies. U.S. stocks sank on concern rising energy costs will threaten the economic recovery, while Treasuries reversed losses and gold advanced to an all-time high.

Oil for April delivery rallied 2.7 percent to settle at $99.63 a barrel, the highest since Sept. 30, 2008. The Standard & Poor’s 500 Index slid 1.6 percent to 1,306.33 at 4 p.m. in New York after yesterday capping a third straight monthly gain. Ten- year Treasury yields lost three basis points to 3.40 percent after rising six points earlier. Gold futures for April delivery climbed as much as 1.8 percent to a record $1,435.60 an ounce.

Energy prices jumped as unrest threatened to spread from Libya to Iran, OPEC’s second-largest oil producer. Concern higher energy costs will hurt consumer spending and corporate profits overshadowed data showing that U.S. manufacturing grew at the fastest pace since 2004. Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke said the increase in oil and other commodity prices probably won’t cause a permanent increase in broader inflation, suggesting the central bank will continue its stimulus efforts.

Today’s surge in crude oil came as Iran, the second-largest producer in the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, arrested opposition leaders to derail protests scheduled today. The European Union yesterday imposed an arms embargo and other sanctions on Libya, and the U.S. said it has frozen $30 billion in Libyan assets.

Saudi Arabia’s Tadawul All Share Index tumbled 6.8 percent, the most since November 2008, as concern deepened political unrest in the Middle East may spread to the kingdom. Arabian authorities “should immediately release” Tawfiq al-Amir a Shiite cleric in the country, who was apparently arrested after he called for a constitutional monarchy and equal rights for Shiites, Human Rights Watch said on its website yesterday.

Link -
http://noir.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=adCbzNc4WM7k&pos=1
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Oil up, Gold up, DOW Down 168 to 12,058, DOW Future continuing to fall.

I would suggest a rather unpleasant day on Australian markets.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Mar 3rd, 2011 at 9:25pm
Despite Huge Resources Only a Small Amount of Oil is Recoverable

The world holds a huge amount of oil resources. Besides liquid oil, there is very heavy oil in various forms. There is also liquid oil trapped in oil shale, oil in very deep water, and oil that in not yet fully formed (still kerogen) in shale oil. Some would like us to believe that eventually, all of this can be extracted, so there is no issue with peak oil.

How do we explain that this cannot really happen? The way I think of the situation is that our resources are of varying “quality”, or ease of extraction. If we order them from highest quality to lowest quality, they would probably form something like a triangle (or perhaps the shape would be more like a rectangle, if the high quality resources are closer to equal in quantity to the low quality resources—it doesn’t matter too much for this discussion).


Figure 1. Schematic diagram of economic and non-economic resources

It seems to me that above some imaginary line, resources can be extracted and producers can make a profit selling them, and the economy can use them successfully. Below the imaginary line, the cost of production will be so high that if a price that is adequate for a producer to make a reasonable profit is charged, the high price will send the economy into recession.

What separates economic and non-economic resources? It seems to me that exactly where this line changes over time, depending on technology (tending to lower the line, as improvements are made) and tax rates (higher taxes tend to raise the line). Basically, the line separates what is affordable for the economy, and what is not.

What we think of as affordable seems to correspond in practice to what economists talk about as the level of demand. If there is high demand, then a high price seems affordable. But where does this high demand come from?

It seems to me that this high demand comes from wage-earners who have earned enough income and businesses that have earned sufficient cash flow that they can afford goods made with higher priced oil.  In terms of Professor Charlie Hall’s cheese slicer model of how energy is used, it comes from an economy that has fat red discretionary income arrows.


Figure 2. Charlie Hall's Cheese Slicer Model, showing arrows for various components of the reinvestment process. This version is theoretically for 1970.

But how does an economy get fat discretionary income arrows? These are really affected by two things:

1. How much energy is used to make energy – the Energy Return on Energy Invested (or EROI) that we read about. The less energy that is used to make energy, the more energy there is for other purposes, and
2. How much energy is required by society to maintain its infrastructure. The more energy that is needed for maintenance, the less is available for other purposes.


What is happening now is that we are moving to lower and lower quality resources (lower EROI resources), so the red arrows are getting thinner and thinner, leading to a smaller proportion of funds for discretionary purposes, and hence lower demand.  Also, our infrastructure is taking more and more off the top, because as we build more of it, it needs more maintenance.

Figure 3. Charlie Hall's Cheese Slicer Model, as of 2030.

If prices could keep rising higher, say to $500 a barrel, the dividing line between economic and non-economic resources in the triangle diagram at the top of this article would drop very low, and we would not have to worry about peak oil. Pretty much all of the resources in the triangle diagram would become economic.

It is the fact that demand is not high enough—that is, the red consumption arrows are not thick enough—that keeps prices from rising high enough to extract oil from all of the types of resources. This is what acts to limit oil resource use, even though to the casual observer, there would seem to be no problem in using all of the low-quality resources that are available.

By. Gail Tverberg

Link -
http://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/Despite-Huge-Resources-Only-a-Small-Amount-of-Oil-is-Recoverable.html
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Gail Tverberg is also a major writer for the Oil Drum.

A few observations -
1) The low hanging fruit, that is the cheapest, most easily accessible, largest Production volumes & the highest value EROI, has already been discovered, has been in Production for some time.
That Oil has already reached Peak Production & is now already in decline.

2) Whilst the low hanging fruit continues to run down to exhaustion, it will be replaced, admittedly in declining volume, by lower quality, less easy to get, higher Priced Oil and the same will apply to Coal.

3) At some point, it will become apparent that the Oil Age, in fact the Fossil Fuels Age, has ended!
This will not become apparent, because the Price will have risen enormously, although it most certainly will do so!

It will become apparent, because the EROI (Energy Return on Energy Invested) has crossed below the one to one ratio!
In other words, it will take MORE than one unit of Energy (A barrel of Oil or a tonne of Coal), to locate, Process & Transport that same one unit of Energy (A barrel of Oil or a tonne of Coal)!

4) Much of todays so called reserves, will never go into Economic production!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Mar 4th, 2011 at 12:14pm
Stocks Rise Most This Year on Economy; Euro Up on Rate Outlook

March 3 (Bloomberg) -- Stocks rallied, sending benchmark U.S. indexes to their biggest gains of the year, as oil slipped and reports signaled the global economy is strengthening.

U.S. equities advanced for the fourth time in five days after jobless claims unexpectedly fell, underscoring the Federal Reserve’s assessment that the labor market is improving.

Applications for unemployment benefits fell by 20,000 to 368,000 last week, the Labor Department said. Economists forecast claims would climb to 395,000, according to the median estimate in a Bloomberg News survey. The data comes before tomorrow’s monthly jobs report, which is forecast to indicate payrolls rose by 195,000 workers in February after a 36,000 gain the previous month.

Oil lost 0.3 percent to $101.91 a barrel after reports that Venezuela offered to mediate a resolution to the crisis in Libya, which has cut crude supplies from Africa’s third-biggest producer.

The Dollar Index, a gauge of the U.S. currency against six major peers, lost 0.2 percent to the lowest level since November.

Link -
http://noir.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aIwHrWNpUleI&pos=2
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Q. Can you believe the media?
A. No!

From a point in mid February, when WTi was priced at around US$84, it hit a recent high of US$102.75, it very briefly traded as low as $100 yesterday, before regaining lost ground and it is now trading at $102.12.

Aside from the methods used to arrive at US Unemployment & Employment figures, being somewhat abstract, how is it possible to say that the current trend of a declining Unemployment rate, is "unexpected"?

Unless the US Economy was now falling off a cliff, their unemployment rate should be "expected" to fall, as there should be some 350,000 plus Baby Boomers, now retiring every month, thus allowing the way for Unemployment numbers to fall.

A more correct guage of the health of the US Economy, would be "the total Employment numbers" or as the US uses the Non Farm Payroll numbers.


Notwithstanding the small recent increase, this indicator is a long way from where it should be.

In fact, given that the US population increases around 1% each year and that the Employment number was 137.5 million as the Great Employment Recession commenced in late 2008, that means Employment numbers would normally have risen by over 4 million since then, but they have actually declined by 7.5 million, according to "official" BLS figures.

That is a negative variation of 11.5 million in just 3 years, in the Total Employment numbers!

Given the continuing Economic drag created by 350,000 plus Boomer retirements (each month), the likelihood of continuing Energy (Oil etc) problems and the onset of Climate Change problems, I am unable to see, "how the US &/or Global Economy will strengthen"!


Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Mar 7th, 2011 at 8:56pm
Oil at $110 May Trigger Pain Chief Executives Weathered at $100

March 7 (Bloomberg) -- A recovering economy helped U.S. chief executive officers weather crude’s surge past the $100 mark. At $110 a barrel, the pain would start to kick in.

As oil traded at 29-month highs last week on concern that violence in Libya would further crimp Middle Eastern supplies, CEOs said they were waiting to see how much the price rises, and for how long.

Corporate assumptions would have to start changing when oil reaches $110 a barrel, according to economists such as Chris Low of FTN Financial in New York. Crude at that price would offset the benefit from the tax cut approved by Congress in December, and begin to slow economic growth, Low said.

‘Substantively Limit’
“Oil prices would need to exceed $125 per barrel for more than four years to substantively limit economic growth,” she said in an interview.

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http://noir.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aoS7gO_wSU3Q&pos=1
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Hmmm, how many different ways, can one say Bull Sh!t!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Mar 8th, 2011 at 8:58pm
The Difference Between Oil Reserves and Supply



Consumption has tripled over the last four decades but supply has stalled over the past seven years, and the rate of reserve replacement has not kept pace with demand since the 1970s.  

We are not running out of oil yet. We have, however, reached an apparent limit to the amount of oil that we can produce every day. That is because newly discovered fields are, at best, replacing supply from older declining and depleted fields.


Peak oil is not a theory, as Lynch claims. It is a body of empirical observations based on the history of oil production decline in major producing areas of the world. These studies show that most of the world’s giant oil fields are declining at increasing rates. New reserves are located in ever deeper, more expensive and harsher drilling environments. Much of what is being found and produced is poor-quality oil, and that means higher cost and more time to become available as supply.

Link -
http://evworld.com/blogs/index.cfm?authorid=12&blogid=952&archive=1
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Anyone for a little Texas Tea, hurry along now, the cup is now less than half full & there's no refills!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Mar 12th, 2011 at 11:23am
The Peak Oil Catastrophe-In-Waiting

Increasing numbers of analysts and policymakers are warning of another super price spike for oil and the likelihood of "peak oil" more generally.

Peak oil is the point at which global oil production reaches a maximum and then declines. The speed of the decline is a key unknown and if it is relatively fast, the results could be truly dire for economies around the world.

We saw prices as high as $147 a barrel in mid-2008 (the dominant factor for gasoline prices well over $4 a gallon), which played a strong role, perhaps the dominant role, in the global Great Recession -- as high oil prices have in most recessions over the last fifty years. Once the recession hit, oil demand dropped and prices plummeted as low as $33 a barrel.

Prices steadily recovered since their low in early 2009 and are back to dangerous levels in early 2011 (about $90 a barrel). We can expect far higher prices as the global recovery continues. An increasing number of analysts are projecting prices as high or higher than the 2008 peak in the next couple of years.

More importantly, global net exports of oil continue to drop as major oil exporters increase their own consumption at the same time as their production is stagnant or falling. Even if global oil production increases in the coming years, if there is less available for oil-thirsty nations like ours the situation will be far worse than total oil production figures would otherwise suggest.

It is time for public discussion of this issue to reach the same prominence as climate change. Indeed, many solutions to these "twin crises" are the same because reducing petroleum dependence will ameliorate peak oil and climate change.

Global oil production has plateaued since 2004, despite the fact that oil prices have risen dramatically. Figure 1 shows this history, demonstrating that oil production has not been very response to market forces, suggesting strongly that we are at a global peak.

Figure 1. Global oil production and oil price 2004-2010. (Source: EIA, chart courtesy of www.TheOilDrum.com).


A number of comprehensive reviews of the global oil supply situation have appeared in the last year.

   * Lloyds and Chatham House: "We are heading towards a global oil supply crunch and price spike." "A supply crunch appears likely around 2013.given recent price experience, a spike in excess of $200 per barrel is not infeasible."

   * The U.S. Department of Defense issued a stark warning in its 2010 Joint Operating Environment (JOE) report, including discussion of "peak oil": "By 2012, surplus oil production capacity could entirely disappear, and as early as 2015, the shortfall in output could reach nearly 10 million barrels per day."

   * Similarly, the German military is taking peak oil very seriously, made clear by a report leaked to Der Spiegel in 2010: "[The report] warns of shifts in the global balance of power, of the formation of new relationships based on interdependency, of a decline in importance of the western industrial nations, of the 'total collapse of the markets' and of serious political and economic crises."

   * The same article reports on secret British government planning for peak oil: "The leak has parallels with recent reports from the UK. Only last week the Guardian newspaper reported that the British Department of Energy and Climate Change (DECC) is keeping documents secret which show the UK government is far more concerned about an impending supply crisis than it cares to admit. According to the Guardian, the DECC, the Bank of England and the British Ministry of Defense are working alongside industry representatives to develop a crisis plan to deal with possible shortfalls in energy supply."

   * The UK's Industry Task Force on Peak Oil and Energy Security (a non-governmental group) issued its second major report on peak oil in late 2010, concluding: "[W]e face a situation during the [next few years] where fuel price unrest could lead to shortages in consumer products and the UK's energy security will be significantly compromised. This has the potential to hit UK business and commerce as well as the most disadvantaged in society with yet another crisis."

The world is heading for a catastrophic energy crunch that could cripple a global economic recovery because most of the major oil fields in the world have passed their peak production, a leading energy economist has warned.

Higher oil prices brought on by a rapid increase in demand and a stagnation, or even decline, in supply could blow any recovery off course, said Dr. Fatih Birol, the chief economist at the respected International Energy Agency (IEA) in Paris, which is charged with the task of assessing future energy supplies by OECD countries.

As we continue a global economic recovery in 2011, higher oil prices are inevitable, super price spikes are a strong possibility, and even shortages are not out of the question. We must ask ourselves: should we manage the decline in a way that avoids economic catastrophe or do we continue our generally laissez faire attitude toward this major problem?

Link -
http://www.energypulse.net/centers/article/article_display.cfm?a_id=2393
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Capitalism mark 1 suggests that anything can be done, if you throw enough money at it.

That assumption, is wrong, we live in a finite world!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Mar 15th, 2011 at 8:32pm
Have you heard about Peak Oil?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BjK_Stz-cE&feature=player_embedded#at=74

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Mar 29th, 2011 at 8:38pm
Dr. Hirsch Discusses Peak Oil on CNBC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWGsnW_NnxE&feature=player_embedded

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Apr 1st, 2011 at 11:33am
Why are you paying more for gas? Peak oil on CBC Manitoba

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QExxH-XrLA&feature=player_embedded

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Apr 4th, 2011 at 1:15pm
Analysis: "Peak Everything" may mute Fukushima backlash

(Reuters) - Political support may be holding for nuclear power and offshore oil, despite the Fukushima and Macondo disasters, as decision-makers confront climate change and dwindling domestic energy reserves.

A theory of "Peak Everything" suggests we are running short of vital assets such as clean water, carbon-free air, some minerals, fish stocks or the cheap fossil fuels which have powered the world economy and helped curb the price of food.


If you want to secure domestic supplies and curb carbon emissions too, then energy options are limited. And that fact has clearly dawned on governments.

Take for example the deadly blowout last year at BP's mile-deep Macondo well in the Gulf of Mexico, which all but stalled U.S. deep-water drilling.

Licensing there has now resumed, while other countries dismissed a deep-water freeze from the start, including Britain whose output is dwindling in the shallower North Sea.

It is early days to tell how the world will respond to the nuclear crisis caused by Japan's devastating earthquake and tsunami on March 11, but a bump in the road looks more plausible than a full stop.

President Barack Obama, for instance, last week laid out a plan to cut oil imports by a third -- diversifying toward renewable energies and also relying on nuclear.

Italy and China plan a one-year pause on new build for nuclear, and Japan plans a policy review. Underlying voter unease, German chancellor Angela Merkel's conservatives lost power in a regional stronghold last week, partly because of her party's pro-nuclear stance.

PEAK EVERYTHING
Others say the driving force for offshore drilling, nuclear power and other resources is the simple need to provide for a population set to reach 9 billion by 2050 from 7 billion now.

"We could see some continuing support for nuclear, despite what is happening in Japan but it won't be fueled by climate change concerns," said Emmanuel Fages, head of analysis of European energy at Societe Generale in Paris.

"It will be because of economic and energy pragmatism," he said. By that argument, nuclear power may be hit most by rising safety and insurance costs after Fukushima.


The International Energy Agency, the energy watchdog to industrialised countries, says global crude oil output peaked in 2006, meaning the world is now forced to glean oil from unconventional sources like oil sands and natural gas liquids.

Those alternatives, as well as renewable energy and nuclear power, are more expensive and would force the world into a more frugal future, according to Richard Heinberg, who coined the notion of "Peak Everything" in his 2007 book of the same title.

Fukushima could stall nuclear power, he added.

"The real upshot is the strong likelihood is we'll have less energy in the future and it will be more expensive energy. We're really looking at a different kind of society," at least for the next 20 or 30 years before new breakthroughs emerged, he said.

Of course, theories of impending shortages have often turned out wrong, like the 1798 prediction by British scholar Thomas Malthus that population growth would outstrip food production. At the time, the world population was just one billion.[/b

"Energy policy is about balancing risks - all forms of energy carry risks," said James Acton of the nuclear policy program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

And the tsunami was beyond the design of the Fukushima plant. "The real challenge is to improve our ability to predict natural and manmade disasters," he said.

Some green groups say there is no trade-off, and renewable energy coupled with energy efficiency can solve the problems.

Sven Teske, director of renewable energy at environmental group Greenpeace, said big shifts were under way with developed nations closing more coal-fired plants than they open.

"There is a phase-out of coal already. The reality is that everybody is moving toward renewables and gas. But some of the government rhetoric will remain in favor of nuclear," he said.


Link -
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/03/us-energy-peak-idUSTRE7322W320110403?pageNumber=2
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It is correct that Energy mirrors life and that it is all one big balancing act.

However, to glance over that the "tsunami was beyond the design of the Fukushima plant", does no one justice, as there have been other "examples" that the sea walls at Fukushima & elsewhere in Japan were too small, but no action was taken at Fukushima or elsewhere, Hamaoka comes to mind.

The Malthus analogy is often raised, but it is erroneous, as the situations are completely different, because now, it is no longer a theory, we are living it and we can see the outcomes!

In fact, Peak everything is demonstrably on its way to reality, as can be seen in Energy, Food & Climate Change, all of which are driven in small or large part, by the growth of human Population from 1 Billion in 1800, to 7 billion today.

I doubt that the global Population will make earlier estimates of 9-10 Billion, in fact it may struggle to make 8 Billion, before starting the long decline, back to around 3-4 Billion, by sometime next century!




Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Apr 4th, 2011 at 9:35pm
What Japan's disaster tells us about peak oil

Life for survivors after the Japanese earthquake and tsunami gives a clue to what a peak oil world would look like.

For large parts of eastern Japan that were not directly hit by the tsunami on 11 March 2011, including the nation's capital, the current state of affairs feels very much like a dry-run for peak oil. This is not to belittle the tragic loss of life and the dire situation facing many survivors left without homes and livelihoods. Rather, the aim here is to reflect upon the post-disaster events and compare them with those normally associated with the worst-case scenarios for peak oil.

The earthquake and tsunami affected six of the 28 oil refineries in Japan and immediately petrol rationing was introduced with a maximum of 20 litres per car (in some instances as low as 5 litres). On 14 March, the government allowed the oil industry to release 3 days' worth of oil from stockpiles and on 22 March an additional 22 days' worth of oil was released.

While the thermal power stations may restart operations soon, the overall shortfall will become even more difficult to manage over the summer period when air conditioning is utilized. The reality is that these power cuts could continue for years, especially since the one of the two Fukushima nuclear plants has effectively become a pile of radioactive scrap.

As we all know, the twin natural and human tragedies are having impacts beyond the Tohoku region where Fukushima lies, and the Greater Tokyo area.

It has been difficult for Japan's notoriously efficient industries to maintain production, given that they rely on just-in-time systems and which have supply plants (for needed parts) that are located in the zone impacted by these combined disasters.

One example is in car production, where major firms have had to suspend work at their factories when key parts are no longer available from the affected region. The fragility of this system of industrial production is glaringly obvious and it is something that peak oil commentators have warned of multiple times.

It is almost as if eastern Japan is experiencing a peak oil rehearsal, although other regions of Japan are virtually unaffected. If proponents of peak oil are correct, then the rest of the world may experience something similar within the next 5 to 10 years, and hence it is important that we learn valuable lessons from Japan's response to the current circumstances.

What makes the current situation different from peak oil?
Under a peak oil scenario, the entire world (not just one country) would be affected by a continuous decline in global oil production. The rate of that decline is the key factor. If the rate is very gradual (a few percent points each year), then economies and their food and energy production and distribution systems in particular will have more time to adapt.

In such circumstances, we could envisage a significant decline in the flow of goods and people across the globe — a slowing or a potentially grinding halt. For a country like Japan that relies heavily on the import of food, having only 40% self-sufficiency, the real peak oil scenario would have dire impacts.

Under the present situation, Japan can still rely on imports to alleviate food supply problems.

In a global peak oil scenario, it is highly likely that food prices would increase significantly. To some extent this is happening.
It is something that Richard Heinberg describes as the "last one standing" scenario in which powerful countries will use their assets to promote their own survival at the expense of everyone else.


Link -
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/apr/04/japan-disaster-peak-oil
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As I have previously said, the leading edges of Peak Oil are already here and I don't believe we will have to wait the 5-10 years suggested in this article.


Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by Amadd on Apr 5th, 2011 at 7:23am
Somebody (else) will find an answer.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Apr 8th, 2011 at 12:17pm
HSBC Economist Says We've Got Just 50 Years of Oil Left

Embedded video -
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2011/04/hsbc-economist-says-just-50-years-oil-left.php

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Apr 11th, 2011 at 12:38pm
Year      US Crude Production            US Net Imports
            (Thousand Barrels P/Day)     (Thousand Barrels P/Day)

1950       5,407                                 545
1955       6,807                                 880
1960       7,035                                 1,613
1965       7,804                                 2,281
1970       9,637                                 3,161
1975       8,375                                 5,846
1980       8,597                                 6,365
1985       8,971                                 4,286
1990       7,355                                 7,161
1995       6,560                                 7,886
2000       5,822                                 10,419
2005       5,178                                 12,549
2009P     5,310                                 9,700      

This is the USA experience, in their own Oil Production and the effects on imported Oil (Net Imported), over nearly 60 years.

As can be seen US Crude Production increased until 1970, it has since steadily declined, exception for the initial period when Alaskan Oil came on stream, between 1978-1988.  
Obviously, Oil must be discivered before it can be extracted/Produced and in the case of the USA 1930 was their Peak Oil discovery year, so there was a 40 year gap between Peak Discovery & Peak Production and that is indicative of the time lags involved!  

The other side of Production is Consumption and the Consumption of Oil in the USA & Globally has GROWN STEADILY along with Demand directly linkded to Population grow, with a couple of noticeable exceptions, over this period, the first during the Global Recession which started in the early 1980's and again during the current GFC!

During both of the above Recessions, the Price of Crude Oil increased dramatically.

However, after the 80's Recession, the Oil Price reverted to form and came back down for a soft landing, as did the Global Economy.

That will not, in fact can not happen this time, this time is different!


Why?

Because, as with the USA, who started the great Global Oil love affair back around 1859, there is a direct timeline link between Peak Discovery & Peak Extraction/Production.

In the case of Global Discovery, Oil Peaked around 1965 and if the USA example held true, with 40 years being the period between Peak Discovery & Peak Extraction/Production, then Global Extraction/Production would Peak around 2005, AND IT DID!

So, whilst Oil Extraction/Production was able to bounce higher & the Oil Price was able retrace lower, after previous Recessions, this time is different because whilst Demand will continue to rise with Population growth, Extraction/Production can not recommence tracking Demand, UNLESS THE GLOBAL ECONOMY AGAIN SLOWS DRAMATICALLY!

Good luck & watch the Debt!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Apr 14th, 2011 at 9:13pm
Preparing for $3+ per litre fuel

Australians will inevitably have to face the reality of higher fuel prices. Since the late 1940's when war-time fuel rationing ended and most people began driving cars, we have come to think of cheap abundant fuel as a right.

Purchasers of new vehicles need to be aware that one CSIRO scenario puts fuel at $8.00 by 2018. STCWA argues that fuel tax increases, offset by reductions in other charges are necessary to prepare for a carbon and oil constrained world with fuel prices of at least $3.00/L.

The world is at 'peak oil', i.e. the rate of extraction has levelled out and must soon decline. It costs more to extract the remaining half of oil resource that remains in the ground, while demand is increasing, so the oil prices must rise. Australia and the US already import more than half of their oil needs.

With fuel at $3.00/L, demand for seats on trains and buses is likely to at least double to more than 30% of journeys. At present, State governments are not even keeping up with public transport demand. The urgent need to expand rail and bus fleets is made evident by the overcrowding of peak hour trains in Sydney and Perth's northern suburbs.

The switch to efficient low carbon transport modes would be encouraged and public transport expanded, in preparation for a future of oil scarcity and $3+ per litre fuel.

Link -
http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=11903

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Apr 17th, 2011 at 10:07pm
Oil May Rise on Mideast Unrest, Saudi Cuts, Survey Shows

April 15 (Bloomberg) -- Crude oil prices may increase on speculation unrest in the Middle East will curb exports as Saudi Arabia reduces production, a Bloomberg News survey showed.

Fifteen of 33 analysts, or 45 percent, forecast crude oil will increase through April 21. Nine respondents, or 27 percent, predicted prices will decline and nine projected little change. Last week, 49 percent of respondents said futures would gain.

Prices have advanced 18 percent this year as unrest spread from Tunisia to Egypt, Libya, Yemen, Bahrain and Syria. Iran may be helping Syria’s government suppress political protests, U.S. State Department spokesman Mark Toner said yesterday in Washington. Human Rights Watch said in an April 12 report that at least 130 people have been killed in the Syrian crackdown.

“There are no signs that the situation in the Middle East is getting any better,” said Bill O’Grady, chief market strategist at Confluence Investment Management in St. Louis. “Syria is looking downright ugly right now.”

Saudi Arabia, the biggest producer in the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, reduced its crude oil output in April by 300,000 barrels per day, John Sfakianakis, chief economist at Riyadh-based Banque Saudi Fransi, said yesterday in a telephone interview.

“The Saudi headlines are a major worry,” O’Grady said. “It’s a big deal.”


Crude oil for May delivery fell $3.13, or 2.8 percent, to $109.66 a barrel this week on the New York Mercantile Exchange. Futures are up 28 percent from a year ago.

The oil survey has correctly predicted the direction of futures 47 percent of the time since its start in April 2004.

Link -
http://noir.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=arQ0rjLjil94
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The question is, where is the much vaunted Saudi spare production capacity that was going to make up the shortfall during the current M/E unrest?

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Apr 20th, 2011 at 4:31pm
Will the decline in world oil supply be fast or slow?

It seems to me that -

(1) A slow decline assumes that the only issue is geological decline in oil supply, and the economy and everything else can go on as usual. Technological advances and switches to alternatives might also be expected to help keep supply up.

(2) A fast decline can be expected if one or more adverse factors make oil supply decline faster than geological factors would suggest. These might include:

(a) Liebig's Law of the Minimum - some necessary element for production, such as political stability, or adequate food for the population, or adequate financial stability, is missing or

(b) Declining Energy Return on Energy Invested (EROEI) interferes with the functioning of society, so the society generates too little net energy, and economic problems ensue, or

(c) Oil becomes so high priced that there is little demand for it. This would quite likely be related to declining EROEI.

My view is that some version of the faster decline scenario is likely, because we will hit limits that interfere with oil production or oil demand.

Declining EROEI
EROEI means Energy Returned on Energy Invested. It can be defined as the ratio of the amount of usable energy acquired from a particular energy resource to the amount of energy expended to obtain that energy resource. Wikipedia says,

When the EROEI of a resource is equal to or lower than 1, that energy source becomes an "energy sink", and can no longer be used as a primary source of energy.


There a couple of issues related to declining EROEI:
1. High cost to extract.
Sources of oil or natural gas or coal that are difficult (high cost) to extract tend to be lower in EROEI than sources that are low cost to extract. So high cost of extraction tends to be a marker for low EROEI. We are increasingly running into this issue, for both oil and natural gas.

2. Declining Net Energy.
EROEI is closely related to "Net Energy," which is the amount of usable energy that is left after deducting the energy that it takes to make energy. When net energy decreases, we have less energy to run society, making it difficult to do things like maintain bridges and roads, and fund schools.

So high cost of oil extraction, low net energy, and low EROEI are all very closely related.

Conclusion
The downslope of oil production can be expected to reflect a combination of different impacts. Unless technology improvements truly have a huge impact, it would seem to me that the overall direction of the downslope is likely to be faster than Hubbert's Curve would predict.

Link -
http://www.theoildrum.com/node/7786
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In a related issue, the above article also posted these following charts, regarding the US Employment to Total Population ratio -


Plus, a chart showing the close relationship between Oil Consumption & US Employment numbers -



By way of observation -
1) I agree with the author, that Oil Supply/Production is likely to decline faster than Hubbert thought, for several reasons.

2) I suggest that the US Employment to Total Population ratio and, in fact, the Global ratio will continue to decline, following trends in Oil Supply/Production and in Demographics.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Apr 24th, 2011 at 4:51pm
Jeff Rubin — Only a Recession Stands in the Way of $200 Oil

Jeff Rubin is a Canadian economist who soon after the year 2000 started talking about much higher oil prices in the near future. At that point in time the Peak Oil crowd was small and considered to consist of few people wearing tinfoil hats conducting meetings in the woods.

A decade on we can see Rubin knew what he was talking about.
So I’m willing to take time in my day to read what he has to say. I think he is a little extreme in his views and maybe a little deaf to any contrary opinions at this point, but he has credibility. He recently wrote the memo below which hits on an issue that concerns me (and I’m sure many others) and that is at what point does the price of oil create another recession that craters the price of oil ?

I hope to reduce my oil exposure long before that happens, but that is much easier said than done, especially if the stocks you own are still considerably undervalued.

With very limited excess capacity in Saudi Arabia and the rest of OPEC, further production shutdowns in the convulsing Middle East will soon push oil prices to new record highs. The Brent futures contract, the world’s benchmark price, almost reached $120 per barrel in London last week. With gasoline soon to cost six pounds a gallon (£1.32 pounds/liter), the British government is already considering alternative rationing systems to the brute price mechanism at the pumps.

Amid the chaos sweeping through the Middle East, it is easy to lose sight of where oil prices were trading before the political protests began. Brent was north of $100 per barrel before protestors started sweeping into Cairo’s Tahrir Square. The triple-digit price for oil was due to runaway global demand, which by the end of last year had soared to more than a record 87 million barrels per day. It was yet not about potential supply shocks from Libya or anywhere else in the Middle East.

Now throw in supply disruptions from the world’s largest oil producing region, and it isn’t hard to find a path to $200 per barrel oil.

When I first predicted $200 per barrel oil prices in 2008 as the chief economist of CIBC World Markets, it was in the context of expecting another four years of global economic growth. Of course, that didn’t take into account the impact of triple digit prices on fuel-dependent GDP growth. Even $147 per barrel prices brought global economic growth to a screeching halt.

It is all the more remarkable that despite triggering the world’s deepest post-war recession and a rare, albeit temporary decline in global oil consumption, oil prices had already soared back to triple-digit levels even before the Arab revolt.

And it will be difficult to keep prices from moving even higher as investors start piling on the oil bandwagon, particularly when they see most of Saudi Arabia’s much touted four million barrel a day excess capacity is largely of the fictional variety while, at the same time, noticing how little effect monetary tightening is having on restraining China’s exploding fuel demand.

What speculators will have to worry about is where things are going. If we learned anything from the last recession, it was our oil dependent, transport heavy, global economy doesn’t run very well on $147 per barrel crude.

And other than bailing out bankrupt investment banks and automobile companies at the cost of record public-sector deficits, not much has changed in our economies over the past three years to suggest our next encounter with that these kinds of prices will lead to a different result.

We are moving inexorably closer to another oil price induced recession. And when we get there, oil demand and oil prices will once again collapse.

The only question is, will we see $200 per barrel oil first?


Link -
http://www.gurufocus.com/news/129488/jeff-rubin--only-a-recession-stands-in-the-way-of-200-oil
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What will happen after the next leg down of this current GFC, is far from easy to predict, as their are so many unknowns & unknowables.

That said, the next leg down is likely not far away and so the Oil Price will decline again, along with the Global fall in Oil Demand.

But what happens next will depend on whether it becomes clear to all that Oil Production has Peaked.

If it does become clear that Oil Production has Peaked or when that does become the case, the future of Oil Prices will remain locked firmly northward, whilst the Global Economy becomes fixed into a downward spiral, unless techonology unlocks a hereto unknown Energy force, that can do all of what Oil does, at the same old, cheap prices?

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by muso on Apr 24th, 2011 at 5:33pm
Maybe higher oil prices will bring on more renewables. Of course what has happened to date is that the price of biodiesel and bioethanol have very closely followed the price of oil.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Apr 24th, 2011 at 9:49pm

muso wrote on Apr 24th, 2011 at 5:33pm:
Maybe higher oil prices will bring on more renewables. Of course what has happened to date is that the price of biodiesel and bioethanol have very closely followed the price of oil.


There are various problems in Bio-Fuel markets, including a lack of ability to scale up production, to the levels that will be required, but it seems that the Bio market may well be called on to make a bigger contribution.

Pretty much all Oil Producing countries are moving toward a time when they will only produce for domestic usage.

In fact, of the top 5 current producers -
1) Russia
2) Saudi Arabia
3) USA
4) China
5) Iran

Both the USA & recently China are pretty much producers for self use, already, with China recently cutting off Export.
http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/04.11/sinopec.html

Of the remaining, there are many who say the Saudi's are now running up against Production problems, instead of having spare capacity and an article today has raised the spectre of the Saudi Production having fallen to 8.292 million barrels per day in March, down from 9.125 million barrels per day in February.

It had been expected that the Saudi would make up for the loss of some 1.3 million Libyans barrels per day, not decline another million barrels a day themselves, so if this article bears out to be correct, then it will add to growing pressures on the Oil Price.

Btw, it is being suggested that Russia Production will also Peak either during 2011 or 2012.
   
In any event, a couple of things seem clear -
1) It is likely that the combined Fuels market, particularly in Transport is set to shrink, over the next decade, even if Bio-Fuels to manage to scale up production, at least by as as much as is possible.
2) Unless there is a substantial Economic downturn, the combination of declining Fuels Production and increasing Demand, via increasing Population & higher expectations in Developing countries, such as China & India, the Price of Fuels will skyrocket!  

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by vegitamite on Apr 27th, 2011 at 11:49am
Firstly, Hi perceptions..

I was watching TV over easter and news of a weed plant  being trial grown of which  the seed produces oil, was very Intriguing. What was also excellent  was that this Weed shrub/tree grows well in drought and bad soils. They currenly use the plant to stop soil erosion  in desert countries.
# ... wish I could remember the trial country and the name of the plant but I wasn't well at the time.

Next, I came across this recommendation of a read. A power point presentation 71 page article on Peak oil. I have not access it as my computer runs to slow to do so. But didnt want the link to go to waste... ::)

http://www.aspo-australia.org.au/References/Bruce/Brussels-2.ppt


keep up your good work  ;)

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Apr 27th, 2011 at 2:26pm
Fracking Hell: The Untold Story

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEB_Wwe-uBM

Interesting, it certainly raises some questions -
1) What is the long term cost/benefit relationship?
2) What are the long term Health concerns?
3) What studies have been done or are planned?

Given some of the Health concerns raised, this would appear to be another instance of Business "getting the nod" to proceed, from Politicians getting the nod with proceeds, without all due processes being undertaken!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Apr 27th, 2011 at 3:13pm

wrote on Apr 27th, 2011 at 11:49am:
Firstly, Hi perceptions..

I was watching TV over easter and news of a weed plant  being trial grown of which  the seed produces oil, was very Intriguing. What was also excellent  was that this Weed shrub/tree grows well in drought and bad soils. They currenly use the plant to stop soil erosion  in desert countries.
# ... wish I could remember the trial country and the name of the plant but I wasn't well at the time.

Next, I came across this recommendation of a read. A power point presentation 71 page article on Peak oil. I have not access it as my computer runs to slow to do so. But didnt want the link to go to waste... ::)

http://www.aspo-australia.org.au/References/Bruce/Brussels-2.ppt


keep up your good work  ;)


Thanks Vegi, there are some useful things in that ASPO powerpoint display, which will show up, in some future posts!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Apr 27th, 2011 at 5:13pm
INTERNATIONAL PRICE COMPARISON
Official statistics from the Department of Industry Tourism & Resources (Australian Petroleum Statistics) and the International Energy Agency (IEA) show that Australia has among the lowest petrol and diesel prices of all OECD countries. The charts below show the price of petrol and diesel in Australia compared to other countries – on both a pre-tax and post-tax basis.


Petrol Prices and Taxes in OECD Countries
September Quarter 2010

Link -
http://www.aip.com.au/pricing/internationalprices.htm



http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/cfapps/ipdbproject/IEDIndex3.cfm?tid=5&pid=5&aid=2
The above link to the US EIA (Energy Information Agency), shows Global Petroleum (Oil) Consumption figures and it highlights the following -
1) Despite various countries having had Fuel taxes, for some time, Oil Consumption has continued to grow on a Global Basis.

2) The only time when this increasing Consumption took a rest, was during the height of the GFC in 2008 & 2009.

All of which means, if it is there and available, it will be used, unless it is seen to be greatly hurting the Consumers disposal income.

The net result of these "fuel taxes" is purely that, they are a tax, first, foremost and last, which is exactly what has happened in the UK (see following chart) & elsewhere and that is exactly what will happen in Australia, under either the Labs or the Libs!



Q. What does all this mean?

A. The Australian Carbon Tax is a TAX, it is not meant to and nor will it, fix the Worlds Green House Gas (GHG) & Climate Change problems!


That said, the Worlds Green House Gas (GHG) & Climate Change problems, must be moved on quickly, to delay the rapid onset of the worst ramifications in the medium term, so that more time is available to work on longer term solutions!



PS - Thanks to Vegi for highlighting an ASPO report, which was the original source of the first chart.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Apr 27th, 2011 at 6:10pm
Russia Doesn't Want Any More Dollars - What This Means for Investors

As a result of its status as the world’s biggest energy exporter, the Russian state has accumulated about $300 billion worth of U.S. dollar denominated foreign exchange reserves. It doesn’t want any more. After decades of eagerly accepting dollar payments, Russia has quietly asked its trading partners to pay in rubles.

Vladimir Putin's original announcement, back on May 10, 2006, that Russia intended to increase the value of the ruble and make it into a reserve currency, caused a shock to currency markets, sending the dollar temporarily downward. But, shortly thereafter, few people paid much attention. The World Financial Crisis intervened, oil prices crashed, and the Russian ruble plunged against the dollar. Quietly, behind the scenes, however, Putin continued to work on making his dream a reality.

Russia has been slowly converting oil and gas customers to paying in rubles rather than dollars. China and Belarus have already agreed.

Occasionally, the once and future Russian President continues to have very nasty things to say about the U.S. dollar. He can't seem to hold back his annoyance toward American economic policies. But, where he is scripted, as in speeches to the Russian Duma, he now creates a facade that implies the world wants to turn to rubles, rather than dump dollars.

Like many big exporters, Russia must balance the desire to escape from the dollar trap, with the fear of collapsing the existing value of dollar reserves. Its situation is not so bad as that of China, whose entire economy is built upon currency debasement against the dollar, but it is still delicate.

Link -
http://seekingalpha.com/article/265375-russia-doesn-t-want-any-more-dollars-what-this-means-for-investors?source=email_macro_view
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Russia, like China and others is trying to exit from their previous support of the US$, as the Global currency, as silently as possible, in order to protect their existing US based investments.

For those who may not realise, ALL settlement payments for Oil were made in US$'s for quite some time, until very recently, when various nations started objecting. One reason for those objections, has been the decline in the US$ index, which has fallen from 120.00 in 2002, to under 74.00 now, as shown at the following website.


http://futures.tradingcharts.com/charts/USM.GIF

All I can say, is that the best laid plans of mice & men, sometimes go astray!  

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Apr 27th, 2011 at 6:59pm
Gasoline Prices and Sales: What They Tell Us About the Economy

What is the relationship between retail gasoline prices and the volume of gasoline sales? The first chart below shows the monthly data for U.S. Prime Supplier Sales Volumes, courtesy of the Depart of Energy's Energy Information Administration (EIA).


The next chart includes an overlay of monthly retail gasoline prices, all grades and formulations. The retail prices are updated weekly, so the price series is the more current of the two.


The next chart adjusts the 12-month MA of sales volume for population growth based on the monthly Civilian Non-Institutional Population data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, via the St. Louis (FRED repository. What we see here is that gasoline sales volume, on a per-capita basis, peaked in September 2009. In fact, our per-capita consumption of gasoline is fractionally lower (-0.4%) than it was at the end of the Great Recession.


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These charts, in conjuction with the following EIA site, show a few things -
1) The Price does influence per capita Consumption, which has been happening since around 2000 in the US
2) However the per capita decline has been largely offset by growing Demand (increasing population).
3) The only sizeable reduction in Consumption occurred during the GFC that started late 2007, as can be seen in EIA site.

http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/cfapps/ipdbproject/iedindex3.cfm?tid=5&pid=5&aid=2&cid=regions&syid=1999&eyid=2010&unit=TBPD

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on May 3rd, 2011 at 9:49pm
ABC Catalyst Peak Oil Report 28-04-2011

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaNz3qS5WAo

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on May 5th, 2011 at 9:40pm
Alaska's Peak Oil Realities

I know we typically look at the trouble our three largest oil-producing states are having with Peak Oil.

Today, let's focus on just one: Alaska.

Because quite frankly, they're having a lot more trouble than the rest.

Last year, Alaskan oil took a blow when the USGS cut their estimate for the amount of conventional, undiscovered oil in Alaska's National Petroleum Reserve (NPR) by 90%.  

The NPR — once thought to hold 10.6 billion barrels of oil — is now thought to contain about 896 million barrels. The area is located on Alaska's North Slope, where 97% of the state's oil production is found.


As if the state didn't have enough trouble with Peak Oil...


Even despite two major spikes in oil prices within the last decade, Alaska's oil production simply hasn't been able to recover.

Oh, how the mighty have fallen.

Back in 1988, Alaskan year-over-year crude production increased 3.8%, pumping more than two million barrels per day — making it our largest oil-producing state. But its slight lead over Texas was only temporary.

For the next two decades, Alaska's year-over-year production increased just once!

If things continue at this rate, production could easily affect the performance of the Trans Alaska Pipeline.

Bloomberg reports: "If no new fields come on-line, lower volume makes it more difficult to operate the pipeline because the oil flows more slowly and cools more quickly, increasing the chance of wax buildup and water freezing in the line or gumming up pumping stations."

It doesn't exactly add up to a bright future for Alaska's oil industry.

Link -
http://www.energyandcapital.com/articles/alaskas-peak-oil-reality/1512
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Not too long ago, Alaska was going to be the saviour of US Oil, a little like North Sea Oil was for Europe.

Both are now in decline, with Alaska looking to expire first.

This is what Peak Oil looks like and we don't have a hundred years to sort it out, it's impacting now, but we have 5-10 years tops, before severe shortages start!


Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on May 7th, 2011 at 3:37pm
The World has Passed Peak Oil, says Top Economist

Despite high prices, crude oil production has stayed basically flat for roughly five years. It seems this is the all-time high-water mark, according to Fatih Birol, chief economist for the International Energy Agency. “We think that crude oil production for the world has already peaked in 2006,” he told the Australian Broadcasting Corporation. “I think it would have been better if the governments have started to work on it at least 10 years ago.”

Link -
http://newswatch.nationalgeographic.com/2011/05/05/the-world-has-passed-peak-oil-says-top-economist/
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I can agree with the IEA head Economist, in so far as, Oil Production has clearly Peaked, as Price has been obviously growing for some 10 years, unyet Production has not risen to take advantage of the higher Prices!

In Capitalism, this can't happen, but in nature, it is unable to do anything else, as exponential growth in a finite world is impossible.

However, as I have said for some time, Oil will head south again, WHEN the Global Economy re-enters the GFC.

Let me make it clear, THE GFC NEVER STOPPED & THERE WAS NO RECOVERY!

What did happen, was that the US government, the FED & most other governments & Central banks "spent" massive amounts, to get the Economy back on track and that temporarily showed up in higher GDP figures, BUT THEY WERE NOT REAL OR SUSTAINABLE!

The Global Economy is subject to the headwinds of two huge forces, Demographics & Energy, which are long term factors that can not be swayed by temporary Keynsian fixes and the headwinds from those forces can hold their pressure much longer than governments can continue to increase their Debt loads & much longer than Central banks can "print money".

When the eye of the GFC storm finally passes overhead and the winds again hit with full force, then both the Economy & the Oil Price were always going to head south.

However, whilst the Oil Price is likely to head lower, as the GFC hits again, it is unlikely to head as low as this time and when Peak Oil does become apparent to most, due to Demand/Supply gap continuing to widen, even under a lower Demand regime from the GFC, then the Oil Price will again start to rise, but this time IT WILL NOT STOP!


Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on May 7th, 2011 at 8:30pm
Is China Getting Ready to Tax Commodity Producers?

There is talk that China is going to impose a 10% tax on commodity producers, starting with oil but possibly extending to coal, gas, copper and so on.

While not confirmed, this is a hot topic for the “big three” of PetroChina Company Limited (PTR), CNOOC Limited (CEO) and China Petroleum & Chemical Corporation (SNP)

The fact is that China did introduce a trial resource tax last June. While all of this hinges on higher prices and levels of production that would ordinarily imply good times for producers, it would still put a ceiling on their earnings at a moment when they are already subsidizing the Chinese infrastructure build out to nowhere.

This might be why commodity markets have traded choppily lately — if not flat out in despair.

Watch the oil group, and if this tax becomes a reality for them, look out Yanzhou Coal Mining Co. Ltd. (YZC) and Aluminum Corporation of China Ltd (ACH).

Link -
http://seekingalpha.com/article/267973-is-china-getting-ready-to-tax-commodity-producers?source=email_macro_view

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on May 8th, 2011 at 12:03pm
JPMorgan Raises Oil-Price Forecasts, Citing Supply Constraint

May 7 (Bloomberg) -- JPMorgan Chase & Co. raised its oil- price forecasts because OPEC and other producers aren’t matching rising demand and consumers will take time to react to higher prices.

The bank boosted its 2011 Brent crude forecast to $120 a barrel from $110, and changed its estimate for West Texas Intermediate crude to $109.50 from $99. Forecasts for 2012 prices were raised to $120 and $114, respectively.

“While financial bushfires or perhaps a rapid resolution to the Libyan civil war could radically alter market dynamics, the balance of both risks and fundamentals still points to a supply-constrained world,” JPMorgan analysts led by New York- based Lawrence Eagles wrote in a report yesterday.

Oil futures posted their biggest weekly decline since December 2008 last week amid concern about the pace of the economic recovery, with London-traded Brent plunging 13 percent to $109.13.

JPMorgan forecasts supply to fall short of demand by 600,000 barrels a day during the third quarter, even with the assumption that the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries increases output by 1.2 million barrels a day in coming months.

The gap could narrow to 300,000 barrels a day by the fourth quarter, assuming Saudi Arabia increases production to 9.5 million barrels a day, Angola to 1.7 million and Iraq to 3 million, though “that may prove a stretch,” the bank said. Output from those three OPEC countries in March was 8.66 million, 1.56 million and 2.69 million barrels a day, respectively, it said.

Supply Gap
Consumers draw on stockpiles when production fails to match demand. Still, “with inventories already below the five-year average, any supply gap will have to be balanced by lower demand growth, rationed by higher prices,” the New York-based bank said.

Next quarter there’s a risk oil may move toward record levels near $150 set in 2008, unless there’s a surprise increase in OPEC output beyond 29.4 million barrels a day or slower economic growth, the bank said. JPMorgan forecast Brent to average $130 and WTI $116 during the July-to-September period.

While the bank lowered its estimate of world demand by 100,000 barrels a day, in part because of the earthquake-led disruptions in Japan, it raised its forecast for Chinese consumption, saying data implies China’s crude-oil inventories have been “drawn heavily” in the past six months.

“We have observed a parallel destocking activity in the copper market,” JPMorgan said.

Link -
http://noir.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=auZZhnLtWSX8&pos=7
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Welcome to the real world, where there is no longer a guarantee of the best of all worlds.

In a world of finite Resources, there are difficult choices, limitations & old ideolgies no longer rule!



Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on May 10th, 2011 at 10:30pm
IEA: Demand, not speculation, cited for rising oil prices

High oil prices are here to stay, and they’re caused by surging demand and limited new supply, not Wall Street speculators.

That’s the message from Fatih Birol, chief economist at the International Energy Agency.

“Speculators are only responding to what is going on in the markets,” Birol said. “We don’t see enough oil in the markets. The major driver is supply and demand.”

Birol said growth in worldwide oil demand is outstripping growth in new supplies by 1 million barrels a day per year.

Much of that new demand is coming from China, which is adding 800,000 vehicles to its roads each year, he said, and is responsible for fully half of the world’s demand growth. Birol noted the growth in China’s oil consumption is equal to all of the new output expected from Iraq over the next few years.


Plus, countries that export oil are not doing enough to invest in new production, and countries that use a lot of oil are not doing enough to cut back.

This isn’t good news for American drivers, currently paying an average of nearly $4 a gallon at the pump.

“We have to learn to live with these higher prices,” said Birol, who declined to say exactly how high oil will go. “They are here for a long time.”

The International Energy Agency represents oil-consuming countries such as the United States, European nations and Japan. It was formed following the Arab oil embargo in the early 1970s, and it is responsible for shuffling strategic oil reserves among developed nations during a time of crisis. It also conducts extensive research on world oil markets.

Some argue that the world has plenty of oil, but that it is trapped in shale rock, tar sands or other types of formations.

Birol said challenges to extracting that oil include cost and environmental impact.

“There’s a difference between having those reserves in the ground and having them at the gas pump,” he said.

Birol’s bleak view is not shared by everyone. Other analysts say plenty of new production from places such as Iraq and off the coast of Brazil should combine with sluggish worldwide economic growth to create an oil glut for at least the next few years. They place most of the blame for high prices on Wall Street, not soaring demand or price gouging from companies such as Exxon Mobil, BP, Chevron and Royal Dutch Shell.

Birol said U.S. politicians can do little in the short term to lower oil and gas prices.

In the long term, he said, the U.S. should focus on increasing its own domestic oil production and limiting consumption through higher fuel-efficiency standards and better incentives for electric cars.

“Oil will be more and more expensive unless countries like the U.S. and China use less,” he said.

Link -
http://peakoil.com/consumption/iea-demand-not-speculation-cited-for-rising-oil-prices/
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Unless Global Oil Demand again starts to Decline and does so quickly, then Global Prices must spike much higher, because Demand will massively outstrip Supply - Economics 101.

Ergo, the Global Economy will soon start to slow again, either voluntarily or the laws of Nature & Economics, will force it to!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on May 15th, 2011 at 8:18pm
Peak Oil Guru Robert Hirsch Gives The Definitive Guide To The Coming Energy Fiasco

Full Slide Presentation -
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-impending-world-energy-mess-2010-11#-1











Good luck & watch the Debt!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on May 19th, 2011 at 11:27am
3 Reasons to Believe in $100 Oil


1) Long-Term U.S. Dollar Weakness


As you can see, the overwhelming color is red. Even if Washington decided on a comprehensive plan to fix entitlement overspending, trim defense spending and reduce the U.S. deficit today, it would take years to see any meaningful shift in these figures.

Therefore, we feel the recent uptrend in the U.S. dollar is a short-term reprieve from a long-term downtrend.

2) Demand from Emerging Markets Outpacing Developed Market Demand
Emerging market countries have narrowed the oil usage gap between developed and emerging markets from roughly 12 million barrels per day in 2007, to just 4 million barrels per day as of late 2010.

Emerging markets, driven by China, are the main source of the increase in demand. You can see from this next chart how China’s demand for crude oil imports has grown over the past decade or so. China imported an average of just under 1.4 million barrels a day of oil in 2002, when prices were hovering around $20 per barrel.

In the years since, China’s crude oil imports have increased more than 260 percent despite per barrel oil prices jumping nearly four-fold. This is indicative of the insatiable demand that emerging markets have for oil.


3) Majority of Global Oil Reserves Located in Geopolitically Unstable Regions
According to some estimates, as much as 80 percent of the world’s oil reserves lie beneath these shaky regions.

Civil wars and attacks on oil facilities can create production slowdowns or even shut down production entirely. The conflict in Libya and unrest in several other Middle East countries shows just how quickly this can affect global oil markets. Iraq is another example of the difficulties inherent in production expansion in these regions. Last week, the country’s former oil minister said it would only be able to meet half of its stated production goal by 2017.

Over the years, the proximity of oil reserves to unrest has led to a reduction in global spare capacity or the excess amount of oil that can be produced, if desired, to meet demand. When the turmoil broke out in Libya, the general consensus was that Saudi Arabia’s spare capacity would be more than enough to meet market demand. That hasn’t been the case as Saudi Arabia has moved to calm its own population to prevent unrest.

The result is little wiggle room to meet demand should we experience a boom in demand or an event disrupting production. In general, these supply/demand dynamics support historically high prices.

Link -
http://seekingalpha.com/article/270344-3-reasons-to-believe-in-100-oil?source=email_macro_view
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It has been said, "a picture is worth a thousand words" and the China Consumption graph fits that statement, perfectly!

That is one country, in one decade, increasing its own Consumption, by the equivalent of some 5% of the TOTAL GLOBAL OIL CONSUMPTION!

Were Chinese Oil Consumption to continue at that rate of growth for the next decade and Oil Production to manage somehow to hold steady, then the Chinese Oil Consumption as a ratio of Global Production would be approaching 25%.

As it is, Global Production seems likely to Decline at around 2% P/A, which would have the Chinese Consumption approaching 30% of the reduced Global Oil Production.


That is clearly unsustainable, it is not going to happen!

It also means that the Oil Price is heading a lot further North, UNLESS the Chinese & Global Economy slow, enormously!
  

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on May 21st, 2011 at 3:23pm
How to develop a business plan for oil depletion

The world currently finds itself in the position of a man standing in a road who has just noticed two large trucks bearing down on him. These metaphorical trucks are labelled Peak Oil and Global Warming. However, despite increasing evidence and clearer definitions of the risks, collectively we have been remarkably reluctant to move out of the path of the oncoming trucks.

This article will only look at Peak Oil, arguably the most imminent threat to our collective welfare. The general reluctance to act and invest appears to stem from the fact that Peak Oil seems an improbable event, given that oil production and its use has expanded steadily for the last 150 years; and that to do anything about it will be expensive and disruptive to our way of life.
A dangerously complacent view that is, unfortunately, widely held.

Peak Oil is often described rather narrowly as 'running out of oil'. This is both misleading and inaccurate. Oil is not running out, but the ability to provide all the oil that we might want at a reasonable price is disappearing. In many countries physical exhaustion of the reserves is already happening. The North Sea is a good example. Oil production in the UK sector of the North Sea will average around 1.3 million barrels/day (b/d) in 2011 or just 45 per cent of its 1999 peak of 2.9 million b/d.

Around 25 large-scale oil producers and up to 40 small ones are already in sustained decline. With roughly half of global production coming from countries where production capacity is falling (depletion) this means the remaining producers need to work ever harder to increase output to offset the losses from those in decline and to meet increasing demand. This is a situation that deteriorates with every additional country that goes into production decline.

Physical exhaustion is only one way that the world can be deprived of the oil production flows it would like. Other threats are:
   Physical constraints – if rebels blow up pipelines or there are wars or revolutions, eg Libya, Nigeria, etc.
   Financial constraints – where the money is either not available or the host government doesn't allow companies with the money to invest, eg Venezuela, Mexico, etc.
   Political constraints – where a political decision not to produce or not to export is made. All Opec quotas are political constraints, while recent statements by both Russia and Saudi Arabia that they may cap capacity at current levels would become major constraints if literally implemented.

Possibly the most important constraint of all is price.

Oil came to dominate our societies because it was both plentiful and cheap. It is now expensive and its supply is becoming constrained.

In mid-2008, the world found out the hard way that it could not afford high-price oil. Or to be more accurate, the Atlantic basin economies of Europe and North America found they could not afford high-price oil.

When the level of oil prices and oil production are compared it can be shown that from 2000 to 2003 prices were steady at around $25/barrel and that production responded by growing – meaning that additional supply was forthcoming without prices rising. From 2004, however, prices started rising steadily, but supply stopped rising from early 2005. This means prices had to rise further to reconcile demand growth with static supply until the price boom-and-bust cycle of 2008 initiated the Great Recession (with a little help from the bankers).

As the economy recovered so did oil prices as the supply response remained minimal.

Looking forward, there is little or no chance of enough reasonably low-cost oil being found and developed to alter the pattern of tightening supply and rising prices, interspersed with periodic busts as high oil prices undermine economic growth. All the indications are that by around 2013 there will be no Opec spare capacity to turn on, insufficient new flows to meet demand and prices will be soaring. In short, Peak Oil will have arrived when the flow of new capacity will be insufficient to offset the loss of capacity to depletion.

Over the last two to three years, the link between oil prices and GDP growth has moved from the economic fringes to the economic mainstream. It is now widely accepted that high oil prices inhibit growth and very high prices will trigger a recession, although the speed of the rise may be as or more important than the absolute level. There is effectively no time for adaptation in the face of a very rapid price rise.

Transport is likely to be the greatest challenge as it will be oil-dominated for many years to come.


Link -
http://www.businessgreen.com/bg/feature/2072365/develop-business-plan-oil-depletion/page/2
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In fact, I believe that Peak Oil HAS ALREADY ARRIVED!

My reason for this assertion, is that I describe Peak Oil's arrival as the moment when the flow of new capacity, was insufficient to offset the loss of capacity to depletion and therefore the usual increase in Demand was not able to be met and that moment happened in 2005!




Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on May 23rd, 2011 at 10:17pm
Oil Will Be A Past Relic When Today’s Babies Hit Fifty

We have 50 years to get unhooked. Is it too late?

A senior economist at HSBC claimed in a recent report that the world’s oil resources are only expected to last five more decades, according to the New York Times. An earlier report from Wikileaks that Saudi Arabia’s peak oil is expected to happen much sooner than thought and desperate measures by mega oil companies corroborate this notion. In the meantime, we can expect a series of “persistent and painful” price hikes in the coming decades.“We’re confident that there are around 50 years of oil left,” Karen Ward, the British bank’s senior global economist, said in an interview on CNBC.

Rising population, particularly in China, are putting huge stresses on oil production. By 2050, HSBC estimates that an additional one billion vehicles on the roads will eat up oil reserves.

Substitutes such as bio-fuels and (heaven forbid) synthetic oils derived from coals might be able to alleviate strain, but will only become viable once oil prices top $150 a barrel.

HSBC believes that the last few decades of oil will have a tremendous impact on economic power, and that power will shift to more oil-wealthy nations. Europe, for example, is not expected to fare well.

Meanwhile, as supplies dwindle, the oil industry is pressing forward with increasingly ruinous projects such as the Canadian tar sands, arctic drilling, dangerous off-shore projects the likes of which led to the BP Deepwater Horizon disaster last year, and oil shale drilling.

Referencing the end of oil and our ability to bounce back with renewables, Richard Heinberg from the Post Carbon Institute said at a recent speech to Worcester Polytechnic Institute graduates, “in my darker moments I fear that we have already waited too long and that it is already too late.”

He also said, and we agree, that he hopes that is not the case.

Link -
http://www.greenprophet.com/2011/05/oil-past-relic/
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I could quibble on a few points, but lets accept it as it is, at the moment?

That said, if the following statement had been put by M. King Hubbert in 1956, it would have proves very prophetic -
We have 50 years to get unhooked. Is it too late?

Why? Because if we had got unhooked within 50 years of 1956, Gloabl Oil Production may not have Peaked in 2005 and it may not already be too late?  

As it is, we may now only have 40-50 years of Oil left, but more than that, it is already impacting massively on the Global Economy, NOW and that is set to worsen over the years ahead!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on May 26th, 2011 at 10:47pm
Those Supposedly Ballooning OPEC Oil Reserves

A slew of reports have been populating my feed reader recently announcing the growth of OPEC oil reserves, first from Iraq, then Iran, and now Kuwait.

Before everyone starts jumping for joy, there are a few things that need to be taken into account.

First, OPEC countries — which include Iraq, Iran and Kuwait — are on the honor system when it comes to reporting their reserves. There is no independent audit to confirm whether their reported reserves are accurate or not.

Second, OPEC nations sell their oil according to quotas, which are based partially on their reported reserves. The more reserves a nation reports, the more oil it is allowed to sell. This particular quota system went into effect in the 1980s, and almost immediately all OPEC nations’ oil reserves jumped significantly. These nations have a direct, vested interest in exaggerating their reserves , not only to make more money, but because petroleum income directly translates into regional power. The chart below is well known to those who follow peak oil issues, but everyone should be aware of how this works when OPEC countries start announcing big new finds or growth in existing reserves.



Third, according to this news article, Kuwait’s latest reserve growth added 12 billion barrels of petroleum to its existing reserves, bringing its total reserves to 113.5 billion barrels. That sounds like a lot — until it is measured against global consumption. According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration, the world consumes 85.5 million barrels of oil per day. That means all of Kuwait’s reported reserves can feed global consumption for about three and a half years, assuming no growth in demand from China, India, the United States, or any emerging economy.

So is it time to bust out the champagne and buy a new Excursion? Absolutely not. Oil prices may be fluctuating in the short-term, but the long-term trend is up, up, and away.

Link -
http://gantdaily.com/2010/10/21/those-supposedly-ballooning-opec-oil-reserves/

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on May 26th, 2011 at 11:46pm
Peak Coal Is The Next Energy Crisis You Need To Start Paying Attention To











Link -
http://www.businessinsider.com/peak-coal-outlook-2010-11#
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Just when you thought Peak Oil was the only Fossil Fuel Energy problem?

Talk about a bubble, just have a close look at what Coal reserves China has, then look at what they are Producing/Consuming and how quickly they will exhuast their reserves.

Where will they leave the Chinese and other countries, such as Australia?

A country will China's population, but not enough Energy, that is cause for concern!  

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on May 28th, 2011 at 8:11pm
Earth’s Limits: Why Growth Won’t Return

The 2008 crude oil price, $147 per barrel, shattered the global economy. The “invisible hand” of economics became the invisible fist, pounding down world economic growth to match the limitations of crude oil production.
—Kenneth Deffeyes (petroleum geologist)


We have just seen why, since 2007, growth has languished for reasons internal to the world financial system—the system of money and debt.

Problems arising from speculative overreach, real estate bubbles, and the inherent Ponzi dynamics of our global debt-based financial structures are endemic and profound. Still, if these were our only difficulties, we might reasonably expect that eventually, once they are sorted out (however painful the process may be), growth will return.

Indeed, that is what nearly everyone assumes. It’s a matter of “when,” not “if” growth resumes.


But there are seldom-acknowledged factors external to financial and monetary systems that are effectively choking off efforts to restart growth. These factors, whose impacts are worsening over time, were briefly alluded to in the Introduction; here we will unpack them in more detail, discussing limits to oil and other energy sources, as well as to food, water, and minerals. We will also explore the increasing cost of industrial accidents and environmental disasters—and why, in the wide wake of global climate change, those costs are likely to escalate to the point that disaster avoidance and recovery will constitute a major portion of future government and private spending. Along the way, we will examine how markets respond to resource scarcity.

Oil
When discussion turns to the economy, most of the ensuing talk tends to focus on money—prices, wages, and interest rates. Yet as important as money is to economies, energy is even more basic. Without energy, nothing happens—quite literally. Energy is not just a commodity; it is the prerequisite for any and all activity. No energy, no economy.

The massive worldwide economic growth of the past two centuries was enabled by humanity’s newfound ability to exploit the cheap, abundant energy of fossil fuels. There were of course other factors at work—including division of labor, technological innovation, and increased trade. But if it weren’t for oil, coal, and natural gas, we would today all probably be living an essentially agrarian existence similar to that of our 18th century ancestors

Growth requires not just energy in the most general sense, but forms of energy with specific characteristics. After all, the Earth is constantly bathed in energy—indeed, the amount of solar energy that falls on Earth’s surface each hour is greater than the amount of fossil-fuel energy the world uses every year.

Economies need sources of energy that are concentrated and controllable, and that can be made to do useful work. From a short-term point of view, fossil fuels proved to be energy sources with highly desirable characteristics: they could be extracted from Earth’s crust quite cheaply (at least in the early days), they were portable, and they delivered a lot of energy per unit of weight and/or volume—in most instances, far more than the firewood that people had been accustomed to using.

Oil has the particular advantage of being a liquid, which means that it (and its refined products like gasoline and jet fuel) can easily be stored in tanks and pumped through pipes and hoses. This effectively maximizes portability. As a result, oil has become the basis of world transport systems, and therefore of world trade. If the oil stops flowing, global trade as we know it grinds to a standstill.

The phrase “Peak Oil” is often misunderstood to refer to the total exhaustion of petroleum resources—running out. In fact it just signifies the period when the production of oil achieves its maximum rate before beginning its inevitable decline. This peaking and decline of production has already been observed in thousands of individual oilfields and in the total national oil production of many countries including the U.S., Indonesia, Norway, Great Britain, Oman, and Mexico.

In 2010, the International Energy Agency settled the matter. In its authoritative 2010 World Energy Outlook, the IEA announced that total annual global crude oil production will probably never surpass its 2006 level.

Scientists who study oil depletion begin with the premise that, for any non-renewable resource such as petroleum, exploration and production proceed on the basis of the best-first or low-hanging fruit principle.

The largest oilfields—nearly all of which were identified in the decades of the 1930s through the 1960s—were behemoths, each containing billions of barrels of crude and producing oil during their peak years at rates of from hundreds of thousands to several millions of barrels per day. But only a few of these “super-giants” were found.

As the era of the super-giants passes, it becomes ever more difficult and expensive to make up for their declining production of cheap petroleum with oil from newly discovered oilfields that are smaller and less accessible, and therefore on average more costly to find and develop.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on May 28th, 2011 at 8:30pm
Earth’s Limits: Why Growth Won’t Return (Cont)

The trends in the oil industry are clear and undisputed: exploration and production are becoming more costly, and are entailing more environmental risks, while competition for access to new prospective regions is generating increasing geopolitical tension. The rate of oil discoveries on a worldwide basis has been declining since the early 1960s, and most exploration and discovery are now occurring in inhospitable regions such as in ultra-deepwater (at ocean depths of up to three miles) and the Arctic, where operating expenses and environmental risks are extremely high.

A survey last year of about a hundred of the world’s most respected petroleum geologists by the Association for the Study of Peak Oil (ASPO) found that the vast majority expected world oil production to peak between 2010 and 2020. Prominent oil industry figures such as Charles Maxwell and Boone Pickens say the peak either already has happened or will do so soon.

The likely consequences of Peak Oil have been explored in numerous books, studies, and reports, and include severe impacts on transport networks, food systems, global trade, and all industries that depend on liquid fuels, chemicals, plastics, and pharmaceuticals. In sum, most of the basic elements of our current way of life will have to adapt or become unsupportable. There is also a strong likelihood of increasing global conflict over remaining oil resources.

Of course, oil production will not cease instantly at the peak, but will decline slowly over several decades; therefore these impacts will appear incrementally and cumulatively, punctuated by intermittent economic and geopolitical crises driven by oil scarcity and price spikes.

Oil importing nations (including the U.S. and most of Europe) will see by far the worst consequences.

Other Energy Sources
Oil is not our only important energy source, nor will its depletion present the only significant challenge to future energy supplies. Coal and natural gas are also pivotal contributors to global energy; they are also fossil fuels, are also finite, and are therefore also subject to the low-hanging fruit principle of extraction.

We use these fuels mostly for making electricity, which is just as essential to modern civilization as globe-spanning transport networks. When the electricity goes out, cities go dark, computers blink off, and cash registers fall idle.

As with oil, we are not about to run out of either coal or gas. However, here again costs of production are rising, and limits to supply growth are becoming increasingly apparent.

The peak of world coal production may be only years away, as discussed in my 2009 book Blackout: Coal, Climate and the Last Energy Crisis.

China, which relies on coal for 70 percent of its energy and has based its feverish economic growth on rapidly growing coal consumption, is now using over 3 billion tons per year—triple the usage rate of the U.S. Declining domestic Chinese coal production (the national peak will almost certainly occur within the next five to ten years) will lead to more imports, and will therefore put pressure on global supplies.

If financial turmoil (with resulting reductions in employment and consumption) were to continue in the U.S. and Europe and spread to China, this could help stretch out world coal supplies and keep prices relatively lower. But an economic recovery would quickly lead to much higher energy prices—which in turn would likely force many economies back into recession.

Can other energy sources replace fossil fuels? Some alternatives, such as wind, are seeing rapid growth rates, but still account for only a minuscule share of current global energy supplies. Even if they maintain high rates of growth, they are unlikely to become primary energy sources in any but a small handful of nations by 2050.

Our conclusion was that there is no credible scenario in which alternative energy sources can entirely make up for fossil fuels as the latter deplete. The overwhelming likelihood is that, by 2100, global society will have less energy available for economic purposes, not more.


As a result of this analysis, we believe that the world has reached immediate, non-negotiable energy limits to growth.

Link -
http://oilprice.com/Finance/Economy/Earths-Limits-Why-Growth-Wont-Return.html
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Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by Jasignature on May 28th, 2011 at 9:05pm
...and its good to know that Australia has the best quality Coal in the form of the Illawarra Coal (and Emu meat with 2% fat ;))

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on May 29th, 2011 at 11:54am
Past Peak Oil - Why Time Is Now Short

Note:  With so much going on with Europe's debt crisis, the continuing disaster and economic contraction in Japan, and the potential for a very hard landing in the Chinese growth miracle (which is in the running as my favorite "black swan candidate" for 2011), I am going to return our attention to oil in this report.

The Next Oil Shock
The only thing that could prevent another oil shock from happening before the end of 2012 would be another major economic contraction.  The emerging oil data continues to tell a tale of ever-tightening supplies that will soon be exceeded by rising global demand. This time, we will not be able to blame speculators for the steep prices we experience; instead, we will have nothing to blame but geology.

How the major economies can continue proceeding with a business-as-usual mindset given the oil data is really quite a mystery to me, but that’s just how things happen to be at the moment.

Looking at the new data and reading even minimally between the lines of recent International Energy Agency (IEA) statements, I am now ready to move my ‘Peak Oil is a statistically unavoidable fact’ event to sometime in 2012, which tightens my prediction from the prior range of 2012-2013.

Upon this recognition, the next shock will drive oil to new heights that are currently unimaginable for most.  First, $200/bbl will be breached, then $300, and then more.  And these are in current dollar terms; any additional dollar weakness will simply be additive to the actual quoted price.  By this I mean that if oil were to trade at $200 but the dollar lost one half of its value along the way, then oil would be priced at $400.

Stampeding Into a Box Canyon
In 2009, I wrote a special report on oil that explored the interplay between energy and the economy.  At that time, the stock market was in the tank, global growth was in a freefall, and things looked gloomy.

But I knew that thin-air money is not without its charms and that we’d experience a rebound of sorts.  Here’s what I wrote:

   I am of the opinion that these trillions and trillions of dollars, which, along with their foreign equivalents, are being applied to “ease the credit crunch,” will eventually find their mark and deliver what feels like a legitimate rebound in activity.  All those trillions have to eventually go somewhere and do something.

   For now, debts are defaulting faster than the various central banks and governments can inject new money and borrowing activity into the system.  Banks aren’t lending because there are very few compelling loans to make, especially if future losses have to actually be carried by the bank making the loan.

   But this won’t be true forever.  Sooner or later, all the trillions of new dollars will trot out of the barn, begin to gallop, and then thunder off, creating the appearance of a healthy advance.

   It will be a cruel illusion, though, as this stampeding herd of money is headed straight into a box canyon.

   Money is only one component of growth.  As we’ve strenuously proposed, energy is a necessary prerequisite for growth.


Well, here we are a couple of years later, with those trillions and trillions out of the barn and stampeding off trying to create some real and lasting economic growth.

Housing remains in a serious slump, wage-based income growth is poor, Europe remains mired in a serious debt crisis, Japan has slumped back into recession, and the US fiscal deficit is a structural nightmare.  Worse, GDP growth is relatively tepid and would be negative, deeply negative, without all the deficit spending and liquidity measures.

As predicted, all that thin-air money, once released into the wild, had a mind of its own and created a serious bout of commodity inflation, especially in food and fuel, which is now seriously impacting the poor and middle classes.

But in terms of creating a true and lasting economic miracle?  It turns out, once again, that 'printing' money electronically is no more effective than calling in the silver coin of the realm, making each unit slightly smaller, and then re-issuing it.  Real economic growth has not been created.

What has happened is that false demand, spurred on by trillions in thin-air money, has also spurred on renewed demand for oil, hastening the day that a geologically inspired supply/demand mismatch will finally arrive.

We are driving at a high rate of speed into a box canyon.


Link -
http://www.chrismartenson.com/blog/past-peak-oil-why-time-now-short/58360

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jun 9th, 2011 at 7:53pm
The peak oil crisis: the gathering storm

The world is beginning to look a lot like the August of 1914 or perhaps the summer of 1939 all over again. This time instead of the great powers of central Europe dragging the rest of us into a European affair, it seems that nearly every corner of the earth is facing some sort of imminent disaster that could combine into a very unpleasant situation.

In America, where we have been living beyond our means for decades, the time has come to pay the piper. Trillion dollar deficits, rising unemployment, printing of money, $4 gasoline, a weakening dollar and entitlements are combining into a grim outlook for our immediate future. Add to this the toll taken by climate change - unprecedented outbreaks of tornadoes, massive floods, and record droughts - throw in a hurricane or two and we are on the way to serious disruptions.

Politically America is split over what do about all this. Many are simply unwilling to admit that numerous forces are trending towards disaster and keep talking about the return to prosperity. Some favor still more tax cuts until there is little left of government, or increased oil well drilling as the universal balm; some favor Keynesian pump-priming and emissions controls. Still others are totally confused by events that are foreign to the way of life they have known and seek solace in demagogic claims to return the country to growth and prosperity.

The EU too is beset by problems. Although Germany and France seem to have avoided the excesses that are besetting others, most of the EU members, like the U.S., are suffering from living beyond their means. The Union has been bouncing from economic crisis to crisis for months. Regional sources of energy -- coal, oil, and natural gas -- are playing out and the continent will soon be even more dependent on imported energy to keep moving about and the lights on. Germany's and Switzerland's recent decisions to foreswear nuclear power stations only add to the problem.

The steadily increasing global population, currently growing by circa 70 million each year, with rising expectations brought about by the communications revolution, is putting an increasing strain on supplies of food, water, and electricity. Shortages of these essentials are becoming increasingly common, and these shortages in turn are leading to increased turmoil and violence. Climate change is taking its toll across the underdeveloped world with droughts and record temperatures being seen across much of the world.
In America, where we have been living beyond our means for decades, the time has come to pay the piper.


There are some areas of temporary respite. Things in Russia are moving along pretty well with oil production and exports hitting post-Soviet highs and global oil prices are keeping the coffers well filled. There was a little problem with a drought last summer, which took out so much of the crop that Moscow had to stop exporting grain, thereby playing a behind the scenes role in the Egyptian uprising.

Still the Russians have their troubles: their oil fields should be going into depletion in the next few years and the remaining separatist groups are still blowing up things in Moscow.

South Asia - Pakistan, India, Nepal and Bangladesh - seem to be suffering the most at the minute. Available power supplies are not sufficient to cope with unusually high temperatures and still keep factories and vital infrastructure such as water pumps running. Even India with 1.2 billion people and an economic growth rate almost as impressive as China's is running into trouble as water and coal supplies are running short. It seems inevitable that economies across southern Asia will be going into decline shortly likely coupled with increasing political turmoil.

Asia is still doing well, except in Japan where tales of its nuclear meltdowns seems to grow worse every day. It is increasingly obvious that the tsunami/nuclear events have dealt Japan a considerable economic blow which even in normal times would take many years for recovery. Given the increasing costs of fossil fuels, all of which must be imported, Japan may be on course to becoming a shadow of its former self.

The other economic power houses of Asia - Korea, Taiwan, and Singapore - are relatively small and have for the most part little or no sources of fossil fuel. Eventually high energy costs will lay them low, but in the interim, they may be bright spots in an otherwise dismal global economy.

Now we get to China, which has enjoyed phenomenal economic growth in recent decades. Although the numbers still look good for another year of rapid economic growth, just below the surface are some serious troubles. The aquifers that supply water to 440 million people living in the north China plain are about to run dry. Beijing is rushing to bring water from the Yangtze basin to the north in an effort that has been likened to diverting the Mississippi River to New York and New England.

At the minute parts of China seem to be simultaneously beset by the worst drought in 100 years and the worst floods in 200. When the serious environmental problems are coupled with the current power crisis, a case can be made that the years of rapid growth in China are nearing an end.

Link -
http://www.energybulletin.net/stories/2011-06-09/peak-oil-crisis-gathering-storm

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jun 11th, 2011 at 11:02am
US Congressman Roscoe Bartlett on Peak Oil (update  May 2011)
Global Oil has Peaked 2006
US Coal - Not 500 years, not 250 years, not 100, but only 50 years left.
US Budget Deficit will take 25 years to return to balance, even with robust Economic growth AND THAT GROWTH WILL NOT HAPPEN!



Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCVYatGbx_U&NR=1

Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bD8IjtxHGY&feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_920056

Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bbAJ5dk6y8&feature=related

Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDxGehP_uJk&annotation_id=annotation_852499&feature=iv

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jun 11th, 2011 at 3:07pm
Speech by Admiral Hyman Rickover in 1957

We live in what historians may some day call the Fossil Fuel Age. Today coal, oil, and natural gas supply 93% of the world's energy; water power accounts for only 1%; and the labor of men and domestic animals the remaining 6%. This is a startling reversal of corresponding figures for 1850 - only a century ago. Then fossil fuels supplied 5% of the world's energy, and men and animals 94%. Five sixths of all the coal, oil, and gas consumed since the beginning of the Fossil Fuel Age has been burned up in the last 55 years.

Fossil fuels did not become a major source of energy until machines running on coal, gas, or oil were invented. Wood, for example, was the most important fuel until 1880 when it was replaced by coal; coal, in turn, has only recently been surpassed by oil in this country.

Once in full swing, fossil fuel consumption has accelerated at phenomenal rates. All the fossil fuels used before 1900 would not last five years at today's rates of consumption.


Nowhere are these rates higher and growing faster than in the United States. Our country, with only 6% of the world's population, uses one third of the world's total energy input; this proportion would be even greater except that we use energy more efficiently than other countries.

With high energy consumption goes a high standard of living.


Truly, the humblest American enjoys the services of more slaves than were once owned by the richest nobles, and lives better than most ancient kings. In retrospect, and despite wars, revolutions, and disasters, the hundred years just gone by may well seem like a Golden Age.

Whether this Golden Age will continue depends entirely upon our ability to keep energy supplies in balance with the needs of our growing population.

Before I go into this question, let me review briefly the role of energy resources in the rise and fall of civilizations.

Possession of surplus energy is, of course, a requisite for any kind of civilization, for if man possesses merely the energy of his own muscles, he must expend all his strength - mental and physical - to obtain the bare necessities of life.

Surplus energy provides the material foundation for civilized living - a comfortable and tasteful home instead of a bare shelter; attractive clothing instead of mere covering to keep warm; appetizing food instead of anything that suffices to appease hunger.

What lifted man - one of the weaker mammals - above the animal world was that he could devise, with his brain, ways to increase the energy at his disposal, and use the leisure so gained to cultivate his mind and spirit.

A reduction of per capita energy consumption has always in the past led to a decline in civilization and a reversion to a more primitive way of life. Another cause of declining civilization comes with pressure of population on available land. A point is reached where the land can no longer support both the people and their domestic animals.

It is a sobering thought that the impoverished people of Asia, who today seldom go to sleep with their hunger completely satisfied, were once far more civilized and lived much better than the people of the West.

Asia failed to keep technological pace with the needs of her growing populations and sank into such poverty that in many places man has become again the primary source of energy, since other energy converters have become too expensive.

When a low-energy society comes in contact with a high-energy society, the advantage always lies with the latter.

From one sixth in 1650, the people of European stock increased to almost one third of total world population by 1950.

Meanwhile much of the rest of the world did not even keep energy sources in balance with population growth. Per capita energy consumption actually diminished in large areas.

Almost all of today's low-energy countries have a population density so great that it perpetuates dependence on intensive manual agriculture which alone can yield barely enough food for their people.

Theirs is a bitter choice; it accounts for much of their anti-Western feeling and may well portend a prolonged period of world instability.

Our civilization rests upon a technological base which requires enormous quantities of fossil fuels. What assurance do we then have that our energy needs will continue to be supplied by fossil fuels: The answer is - in the long run - none.

The earth is finite. Fossil fuels are not renewable. In this respect our energy base differs from that of all earlier civilizations. They were created by solar energy 500 million years ago and took eons to grow to their present volume.

In the face of the basic fact that fossil fuel reserves are finite, the exact length of time these reserves will last is important in only one respect: the longer they last, the more time do we have, to invent ways of living off renewable or substitute energy sources and to adjust our economy to the vast changes which we can expect from such a shift.

Fossil fuels resemble capital in the bank. A prudent and responsible parent will use his capital sparingly in order to pass on to his children as much as possible of his inheritance. A selfish and irresponsible parent will squander it in riotous living and care not one whit how his offspring will fare.



Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jun 11th, 2011 at 3:26pm
Speech by Admiral Hyman Rickover in 1957 (Cont)

Current estimates of fossil fuel reserves vary to an astonishing degree. In part this is because the results differ greatly if cost of extraction is disregarded or if in calculating how long reserves will last, population growth is not taken into consideration; or, equally important, not enough weight is given to increased fuel consumption required to process inferior or substitute metals. We are rapidly approaching the time when exhaustion of better grade metals will force us to turn to poorer grades requiring in most cases greater expenditure of energy per unit of metal.

It seems sensible to me to take a long view, even if this involves facing unpleasant facts.

For it is an unpleasant fact that according to our best estimates, total fossil fuel reserves recoverable at not over twice today's unit cost, are likely to run out at some time between the years 2000 and 2050, if present standards of living and population growth rates are taken into account. Oil and natural gas will disappear first, coal last.

There will be coal left in the earth, of course. But it will be so difficult to mine that energy costs would rise to economically intolerable heights, so that it would then become necessary either to discover new energy sources or to lower standards of living drastically.

Our past history and security have given us the sentimental belief that the things we fear will never really happen - that everything turns out right in the end. But, prudent men will reject these tranquilizers and prefer to face the facts so that they can plan intelligently for the needs of their posterity.

Looking into the future, from the mid-20th Century, we cannot feel overly confident that present high standards of living will of a certainty continue through the next century and beyond. Fossil fuel costs will soon definitely begin to rise as the best and most accessible reserves are exhausted, and more effort will be required to obtain the same energy from remaining reserves. It is likely also that liquid fuel synthesized from coal will be more expensive. Can we feel certain that when economically recoverable fossil fuels are gone science will have learned how to maintain a high standard of living on renewable energy sources?

I believe it would be wise to assume that the principal renewable fuel sources which we can expect to tap before fossil reserves run out will supply only 7 to 15% of future energy needs. The five most important of these renewable sources are wood fuel, farm wastes, wind, water power, and solar heat.

More promising is the outlook for nuclear fuels. These are not, properly speaking, renewable energy sources, at least not in the present state of technology, but their capacity to "breed" and the very high energy output from small quantities of fissionable material, as well as the fact that such materials are relatively abundant, do seem to put nuclear fuels into a separate category from exhaustible fossil fuels. The disposal of radioactive wastes from nuclear power plants is, however, a problem which must be solved before there can be any widespread use of nuclear power.

Our present known reserves of fissionable materials are many times as large as our net economically recoverable reserves of coal.

Because of its inherent characteristics, nuclear fuel cannot be used directly in small machines, such as cars, trucks, or tractors. It is doubtful that it could in the foreseeable future furnish economical fuel for civilian airplanes or ships, except very large ones.

But, unless science can perform the miracle of synthesizing automobile fuel from some energy source as yet unknown or unless trolley wires power electric automobiles on all streets and highways, it will be wise to face up to the possibility of the ultimate disappearance of automobiles, trucks, buses, and tractors. Before all the oil is gone and hydrogenation of coal for synthetic liquid fuels has come to an end, the cost of automotive fuel may have risen to a point where private cars will be too expensive to run and public transportation again becomes a profitable business.

Today the automobile is the most uneconomical user of energy. It is the most ravenous devourer of fossil fuels, accounting for over half of the total oil consumption in this country.

Curiously, the automobile, which is the greatest single cause of the rapid exhaustion of oil reserves, may eventually be the first fuel consumer to suffer. Reduction in automotive use would necessitate an extraordinarily costly reorganization of the pattern of living in industrialized nations, particularly in the United States. It would seem prudent to bear this in mind in future planning of cities and industrial locations.

If we start to plan now, we may be able to achieve the requisite level of scientific and engineering knowledge before our fossil fuel reserves give out, but the margin of safety is not large. This is also based on the assumption that atomic war can be avoided and that population growth will not exceed that now calculated by demographic experts.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jun 11th, 2011 at 3:44pm
Speech by Admiral Hyman Rickover in 1957 (Cont)

War, of course, cancels all man's expectations. Even growing world tension just short of war could have far-reaching effects.

Underdeveloped nations with fossil fuel deposits might be coerced into withholding them from the free world or may themselves decide to retain them for their own future use. The effect on Europe, which depends on coal and oil imports, would be disastrous and we would have to share our own supplies or lose our allies.

Barring atomic war or unexpected changes in the population curve, we can count on an increase in world population from two and one half billion today to four billion in the year 2000; six to eight billion by 2050.

It is an awesome thing to contemplate a graph of world population growth from prehistoric times - tens of thousands of years ago - to the day after tomorrow - let us say the year 2000 A.D. If we visualize the population curve as a road which starts at sea level and rises in proportion as world population increases, we should see it stretching endlessly, almost level, for 99% of the time that man has inhabited the earth. In 6000 B.C., when recorded history begins, the road is running at a height of about 70 feet above sea level, which corresponds to a population of 10 million. Seven thousand years later - in 1000 A.D. - the road has reached an elevation of 1,600 feet; the gradation now becomes steeper, and 600 years later the road is 2,900 feet high. During the short span of the next 400 years - from 1600 to 2000 - it suddenly turns sharply upward at an almost perpendicular inclination and goes straight up to an elevation of 29,000 feet - the height of Mt. Everest, the world's tallest mountain.

In the 8,000 years from the beginning of history to the year 2000 A.D. world population will have grown from 10 million to 4 billion, with 90% of that growth taking place during the last 5% of that period, in 400 years. It took the first 3,000 years of recorded history to accomplish the first doubling of population, 100 years for the last doubling, but the next doubling will require only 50 years. Calculations give us the astonishing estimate that one out of every 20 human beings born into this world is alive today.

The rapidity of population growth has not given us enough time to readjust our thinking.

Life in crowded communities cannot be the same as life on the frontier. We are no longer free, as was the pioneer - to work for our own immediate needs regardless of the future. We are no longer as independent of men and of government as were Americans two or three generations ago. An ever larger share of what we earn must go to solve problems caused by crowded living - bigger governments; bigger city, state, and federal budgets to pay for more public services. Merely to supply us with enough water and to carry away our waste products becomes more difficult and expansive daily. More laws and law enforcement agencies are needed to regulate human relations in urban industrial communities and on crowded highways than in the America of Thomas Jefferson.

[/size]Certainly no one likes taxes, but we must become reconciled to larger taxes in the larger America of tomorrow.

[size=18]I suggest that this is a good time to think soberly about our responsibilities to our descendants - those who will ring out the Fossil Fuel Age. Our greatest responsibility, as parents and as citizens, is to give America's youngsters the best possible education.


It means that we must reconcile ourselves to continuing higher taxes to build up and maintain at decent salaries a greatly enlarged corps of much better trained teachers, even at the cost of denying ourselves such momentary pleasures as buying a bigger new car, or a TV set, or household gadget. We should find - I believe - that these small self-denials would be far more than offset by the benefits they would buy for tomorrow's America. We might even - if we wanted - give a break to these youngsters by cutting fuel and metal consumption a little here and there so as to provide a safer margin for the necessary adjustments which eventually must be made in a world without fossil fuels.

One final thought I should like to leave with you. High-energy consumption has always been a prerequisite of political power. The tendency is for political power to be concentrated in an ever-smaller number of countries. Ultimately, the nation which controls the largest energy resources will become dominant. If we give thought to the problem of energy resources, if we act wisely and in time to conserve what we have and prepare well for necessary future changes, we shall insure this dominant position for our own country.

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http://www.theoildrum.com/node/4394
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I suggest Rickover has got quite a few things correct!

However, the 1957 estimates of Global Population growth proved to be much too low.

Even with China opting for a one child policy, Rickovers 2000 estimate of 4 Billion, wound up at an actual figure of 6 Billion and we are already at 7 Billion now.

This has put additional & undue strain on everything and it is simply unsustainable!  

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jul 6th, 2011 at 1:57pm
China's Imminent Collision With Peak Coal

World coal production is dominated by China. China's coal production is projected to peak in 2027 with a peak production level of 5.1 billion tons. World (excluding China)'s coal production is projected to peak in 2027 with a peak production level of 4.1 billion tons.

Coal is mainly used for “base load” electricity generation (to meet the part of the electricity demand that requires constant flows) and is an essential input in the iron and steel industry.  In 2008, coal accounted for 22 percent of the world’s energy consumption in the industrial sector (including non-energy uses) and 4 percent of the energy consumption in the residential and commercial sector.  Coal accounted for 41 percent of the world’s electricity generation (IEA 2010).

In 2010, world coal production was 7,273 million tons. Figure 11 shows the annual coal production of the world’s largest five producers.  The world coal production and consumption is dominated by China.  In 2010, China accounted for 45 percent of the world coal production (by volume) and 48 percent of the world coal consumption (by energy content).



The BP Statistical Review of World Energy reports China’s coal reserves to be 114.5 billion tons.  This is the number that is widely cited by media and used by virtually all international energy institutions as China’s “proved” coal reserves.  In fact, the BP number has not been updated since 1992.  Given the observed rapid growth of China’s coal production, the reserves number reported by BP is likely to have substantially underestimated China’s remaining recoverable coal resources.  Some earlier studies that relied upon the BP number suggested that China’s coal production could peak before 2020 and the peak production level would be less than 3 billion tons (see Heinberg 2009: 55-73).  In fact, China produced 3.2 billion tons of coal in 2010.

This report assumes that China’s ultimately recoverable coal resources will be 260 billion tons.  Given this assumption, China’s future coal production can be projected by fitting a logistic curve to historical production levels.  Figure 14 compares China’s historical coal production and the projected production. China’s coal production is projected to peak in 2027 with a production level of 5.1 billion tons.



In 2010, China overtook the United States to become the world’s largest energy consumer. China now accounts for about 20 percent of the world’s energy consumption and about 25 percent of the world’s total carbon dioxide emissions. China’s future development will have a major impact on the global economic, social, political, and ecological trajectories in the 21st century.

China depends on coal for 70 percent of the energy supply. If China’s coal production slows down dramatically and eventually declines in the coming years, China’s economic growth (and by implication global economic growth) will be severely constrained.

From 2000 to 2010, the Chinese economy expanded at an average annual rate of 10.4 percent and China’s coal production grew at an average annual rate of 8.9 percent.

According to the BP Statistical Review of World Energy, at the end of 2010, world (excluding China) had 746.4 billion tons of coal reserves.  However, out of the total coal reserves, 403.9 billion tons were sub-bituminous and lignite coal, that is, coal with low energy content and economic value.  Only 342.6 billion tons were anthracite and bituminous coal of relatively high quality.

Link -
http://www.businessinsider.com/chinas-imminent-collision-with-peak-coal-2011-7
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A few observations -
1) Not even the mythical Political Economic Growth Fairy can achieve never ending story of Exponential Growth!

2) China's Peak Coal production will most likely arrive before 2027.

3) There are various grades of Coal, which means that the Energy extracted per ton of Coal, is less for the lesser grades.

4) The Best/Better grades of Coal are already Peaking and various Utilities (Power Generators) are already moving to the lower grade/quality Coal, which means that the Price of Coal will rise, even though the grade/quality is in decline, as the laws of lower Supply and greater Demand kick in.

5) However, even as the Price (per Ton) of Coal rises, the actual power generated (per ton) will Decline, as the grade/quality is lower.

The end result is & will be, large increases in the per unit cost of power generation, which is what we are already seeing.

As both Oil & Coal Productions Peak, I would also suggest that larger increases will also emmanate from Natural Gas, again following the laws of Supply & Demand!


Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 16th, 2011 at 8:32pm
Limits To Keynesianism



While Keynesianism appears to have a benevolent, humanistic intent it is greatly disappointing that so many of its advocates do not also recognize its destructive aspects. Yes, free markets misallocate capital routinely. But Keynesianism as a policy also distributes capital unevenly, and unfairly. First receivers of government capital gain competitive advantages. First receivers of easy monetary policy also gain, and become predatory. The housing bubble was perhaps the most spectacular example of the destructive force of easy money, which resulted in a huge transfer of risk and wealth, recycled through society.

But the greatest flaw with Keynesianism now is that, like the economy itself, it has run squarely into the energy limit. As the most recently updated data shows, 2011 will be the 6th year that world production of crude oil was unable to increase beyond the ceiling established in 2005.

Oil remains the primary energy input to OECD economies. OECD economies are of course where the Keynesian experiment has flourished longest, first in Japan, then the United States and now Europe. It is hardly, hardly the case that the current financial crisis in the OECD is “simply a matter of accounting.” Instead, the crisis is one of systemic, structural growth now permanently limited by energy costs as OECD economies try to service debt loads that have escaped their ability to manage. Change all the digits, and the energy limit remains.

The redoubling of government efforts to distribute paper capital to society will not bring forth the cheap energy required to spur the growth Keynesians either assume, or have failed to even consider.

Link -
http://seekingalpha.com/article/293689-limits-to-keynesianism?source=email_macro_view
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There are other problems with the Keynesian model, as there is with the Austrian model, but Peak Energy is certainly one of the major stumbling blocks, as are the Demographic issues currently going thru the system!

That said, this graph makes it clear that we are now at Hubbert's Oil Peak plateau and have been since 2005 and that creates an enormous array of problems, Economic & otherwise!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 25th, 2011 at 11:23pm
Mexico oil: little incentive for reform

Mexico’s August oil production figures, which were released Friday, will doubtless put smiles on the faces of government officials and legislators alike.

They shouldn’t. Production came in at just over 2.55m barrels a day, up slightly from July. That’s the latest reminder that Mexico, which is one of the world’s top 10 producers, has at last halted the decline that began in 2004 when production reached a peak of 3.4m barrels a day.

Link -
http://blogs.ft.com/beyond-brics/2011/09/24/mexico-oil-little-incentive-for-reform/#axzz1Yxs5khsH

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Oct 1st, 2011 at 12:08pm
North Sea gas production falls 25%

North Sea gas production has slumped by 25% in the second quarter of the year, an alarming increase in the rate of decline that will cut tax revenues and could put more pressure on government to agree controversial shale gas developments.

Figures from the Department of Energy and Climate Change (DECC) also show a 36% rise in coal imports, but a leap from 6.3% to 9.6% for the amount of electricity generated by wind and other renewables.

The department records that the output of oil and associated gas liquids fell by 16% in the three months to the end of June, compared with a year earlier – the biggest decline since records began 16 years ago.

But the largest fall was in the amount of gas produced from the southern North Sea, where operators have been arguing that projects may have to be shut down because of a rise in government taxes in the last budget.

In a typical year, the annual rate of gas decline has been closer to 15%, and the increase may partly be put down to field maintenance being brought forward, but it comes as domestic prices have been raised by British Gas and others.

Link -
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/sep/29/north-sea-gas-production-falls-by-a-quarter?CMP=twt_fd
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Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Oct 1st, 2011 at 11:43pm
People & Power - Peaked - 06 Jan 08 - Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrjX4Nf_wGM

People & Power - Peaked - 06 Jan 08 - Part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sYLFqg2e3I&feature=relmfu

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Oct 14th, 2011 at 5:35pm
Economic theory and the Real Great Contraction

The contemporary debate over the future of natural resources features two competing theories of economics.

The view that dominates all economic policy and theory today is rooted in the work of Adam Smith, published from 1759 to 1776. It holds that self-interest, if unimpeded by regulation, can be harnessed and trusted to produce socially desirable outcomes. His argument was that free trade maximizes the utility of producers to ration the demand of scarce resources and allocate them via an “invisible hand” to consumers with the highest marginal demand more efficiently than allocation by dictate could. History proved him right: the world’s supply of energy has continued to increase steadily ever since.

Smith wrote his seminal book, The Wealth of Nations, after becoming enamored of the Physiocracy theory emerging in France. It viewed the entire economy as being built upon agricultural output, which it mostly was. In Smith’s time, the world was primarily powered by our most ancient energy sources: plants, wind and water. The exploitation of coal had only just begun, and the steam engine had only just been invented. The age of oil wouldn’t even begin for another 140 years.

The competing view holds that the world is approaching “peak everything.” Peak oil, peak coal, peak gas, peak food, peak water, and ultimately, peak population. At some point the supply of these critical resources can no longer be increased; they will peak, and then decline, taking economic productivity down with them. Or in economic terms, the price at which new supply can be offered to the market will be a price that the market can’t support.

Being of a scientific mind, I prefer data over faith, which puts me in the latter camp.

When oil got to $120 per barrel in 2008 it cut into real productivity, and forced the world’s most developed economies to shrink. At $147, it wreaked serious damage. The subsequent economic crash took oil prices all the way down to $33 a barrel within six months. U.S. petroleum demand declined by nearly two million barrels per day (mbpd) from 2007 through 2009, of which 85 percent was lost in the commercial and industrial sector.

Every dollar of gross domestic product up until 2005 was generated on the back of cheap and easy oil. Without energy, there can be no economic activity. When global conventional crude oil production hit its peak-plateau in 2005, ending its 150-year-long trajectory of growth, it appears that global GDP per capita did too. Further, the last three major recessions in the U.S. all occurred after petroleum expenditures rose to more than 5.5 percent of GDP.

At more than nine percent of GDP, we are well above that threshold again today.

But under modern laissez-faire economic theory, perpetual economic growth is axiomatic and mandatory. It is built into all our assumptions and our generally accepted accounting practices. It is presumed by the issuance of sovereign debt and the printing of money, both of which are essentially claims on future productivity. Growth must be maintained, at all costs. This presumption justified the creation of financial instruments like mortgage-backed securities based on no-money-down loans, to juice up a housing sector that would have gone flat if only truly creditworthy borrowers could buy a house. It justified trillions of dollars worth of Keynesian stimulus since 2007, and many economists argue that trillions more are needed still.

In short, when the gas tank on the engine of economic growth ran low, we turned to inflating monetary bubbles, and stuffed those in the tank. It created the temporary illusion of a bit more economic growth, but it came at the cost of several future generations’ worth of debt.

Despite these obvious facts, the entire world still assumes that growth will continue. Everyone thinks the world will get to nine billion people by 2050, when seven billion today are already encountering fierce competition for food and fuel. Every economic model offered by government agencies projects at least a 1.5 percent annual growth rate for another two decades.

Just as a fish has no concept of water, the faith that technology will somehow produce enough food and fuel to feed those nine billion is so embedded into our thoughts, so intrinsic to the economic theories we have been taught, that it isn’t even questioned. There is no need to worry about the declining energy content of our fuels, and the declining supply of basic agricultural nutrients like phosphorus. We needn’t bother with the fact that the net energy (the energy left over after subtracting the energy expended in production; also known as energy return on investment, or EROI) of all our major fuels is in long-term decline. The invisible hand will provide! Always!

I maintain that all of these beliefs are wrong. They are based on faith, not current realities, and they misconstrue what Adam Smith actually believed. They are as bankrupt intellectually as our economy is financially.


Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Oct 14th, 2011 at 6:03pm
Economic theory and the Real Great Contraction (Cont)

Not only are we finding it painfully expensive and difficult to produce new resources, the so-called free market no longer provides socially beneficial results. It now produces crashing global fish populations, depleted and vanishing topsoil, water in the Gulf of Mexico contaminated by blown-out oil wells and the runoff of agricultural fertilizers, hundreds of square miles of landscapes rendered lifeless in the pursuit of coal and tar sands, totally unsupportable and dysfunctional topographies of cars and roads and suburbs, and air so filthy that last week Milan banned all vehicles from its streets and Beijing’s air is rated as “hazardous” or worse nearly every day.

Modern economic theory has no plan to address these very real problems. Indeed, it is utterly blind to them. It has no ambition to achieve a sustainable result. It does not capture the time value of use; it only serves to bring supply to market as quickly as demand warrants, which is particularly unfortunate when our most rational strategy now would be to make the last half of our oil endowment last as long as possible, not to use it as quickly as possible.

The reason we like laissez-faire capitalism is not because it’s intrinsically correct and comprehensive, but because it only asks us to do what we want to do, and confers a mantle of legitimacy upon self-interest. But if you look closely at the data on fossil fuels, agricultural inputs, arable land, water, and all the rest of the resources necessary for human life and economic growth, it’s clear that the situation has changed. We have reached the end of growth, no matter how much faith we have to the contrary.

The Great Contraction
The question we now must ask is: What comes after the end of growth? The answer should be obvious.

While crude remains on its current production plateau, OECD economies may expect growthless stagnation. Oil has become a zero-sum market, where the OECD’s loss in demand owing to high prices, staggering debt, and anemic growth will be the gain of emerging economies as they work their way up the economic ladder. When crude begins its inevitable, terminal decline somewhere around 2014 or 2015, depriving the world of about two percent of its primary energy supply every year, it will slowly strangle economic output, under a scenario I call the Real Great Contraction.

After oil begins its decline, gas and coal will too. By roughly 2030, 78 percent of our current global primary energy supply will be in decline. There is no way that renewables can make up that loss in time to prevent economic decline.

The world would need to build the equivalent of all existing renewable energy capacity every year just to make up for the decline of oil, let alone coal and gas. Since that is unlikely, the only remaining option is to reduce demand through efficiency gains. Given that the world is nowhere near on a trajectory to make enough efficiency gains to maintain even a flat economy, it must contract.

The modern interpretation of Smith’s invisible hand — that the market can always call forth adequate resources at an acceptable price — is self-evidently not true. It is merely a misreading of Smith’s theory, an artifact of developing economic theory in an age of energy surplus. Take that surplus away, and it doesn’t work anymore. High prices can still ration demand, but they cannot call forth adequate supply.

The connection between abundant, cheap energy and economic growth, and the phase transition from an age of surplus to an age of less, continues to confound and elude mainstream economists.

Rather than admitting that the fiction of wealth (money) is overextended far past its basis in real wealth (hard assets), we demand that our economic oracles perform rituals to appease the gods, dropping paper money from helicopters like some sort of cargo cult.

The Physiocrats of the late 18th century believed mankind would eventually overshoot its resources, since land is finite. (The emerging contemporary field of biophysical economics follows in that tradition.) That they could not have imagined the wealth of fossil fuels yet to be exploited does not disprove their thesis; it merely delayed it, and ensured that when human demands finally do overwhelm the capacity of a finite planet to satisfy them, the overshoot and crash will be spectacular.

Lacking energy alternatives that can be scaled and substituted for fossil fuels within two or three decades, true believers in free market theory must now hang their hopes on science fiction saviors like fusion reactors. In my view, none of these things are likely.

If we do not muster the political will and the mechanisms needed to execute a rapid deployment of efficiency gains and a massive transition to renewables while we still have fossil fuels with which to do it, this century will see humanity slide back down the ladder of energy consumption and credit expansion in a long and volatile reversion to the mean of human history, to a much lower equilibrium of complexity and consumption.
The Real Great Contraction is here.

Link -
http://www.smartplanet.com/blog/energy-futurist/economic-theory-and-the-real-great-contraction/116


That's my opinion! (also)

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Nov 10th, 2011 at 8:52am
U.S. Government Confirms Link Between Earthquakes and Shale Gas Extraction

On November 5, an earthquake measuring 5.6 rattled Oklahoma and was felt as far away as Illinois.

Until two years ago Oklahoma typically had about 50 earthquakes a year, but in 2010, 1,047 quakes shook the state.

Why?

In Lincoln County, where most of this past weekend's seismic incidents were centered, there are 181 injection wells, according to Matt Skinner, an official from the Oklahoma Corporation Commission, the agency which oversees oil and gas production in the state.

Cause and effect?

The practice of injecting water into deep rock formations causes earthquakes, both the U.S. Army and the U.S. Geological Survey have concluded.

The U.S. natural gas industry pumps a mixture of water and assorted chemicals deep underground to shatter sediment layers containing natural gas, a process called hydraulic fracturing, known more informally as "fracking." While environmental groups have primarily focused on fracking's capacity to pollute underground water, a more ominous byproduct emerges from U.S. government studies; forcing fluids under high pressure deep underground produces increased regional seismic activity.

As the U.S. natural gas industry mounts an unprecedented and expensive advertising campaign to convince the public that such practices are environmentally benign, U.S. government agencies have determined otherwise.

According to the U.S. Army's Rocky Mountain Arsenal website, the RMA drilled a deep well for disposing of the site's liquid waste after the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency "concluded that this procedure is effective and protective of the environment." According to the RMA, "The Rocky Mountain Arsenal deep injection well was constructed in 1961, and was drilled to a depth of 12,045 feet" and 165 million gallons of Basin F liquid waste, consisting of "very salty water that includes some metals, chlorides, wastewater and toxic organics" was injected into the well during 1962-1966.

Why was the process halted? "The Army discontinued use of the well in February 1966 because of the possibility that the fluid injection was "triggering earthquakes in the area," according to the RMA. In 1990, the "Earthquake Hazard Associated with Deep Well Injection--A Report to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency" study of RMA events by Craig Nicholson, and R.I. Wesson stated simply, "Injection had been discontinued at the site in the previous year once the link between the fluid injection and the earlier series of earthquakes was established."

Twenty-five years later, "possibility" and "established" changed in the Environmental Protection Agency's July 2001 87-page study, "Technical Program Overview: Underground Injection Control Regulations EPA 816-r-02-025," which reported, "In 1967, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers and the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) determined that a deep, hazardous waste disposal well at the Rocky Mountain Arsenal was causing significant seismic events in the vicinity of Denver, Colorado."

There is a significant divergence between "possibility," "established" and "was causing," and the most recent report was a decade ago. Much hydraulic fracturing to liberate shale oil gas in the Marcellus shale has occurred since.

According to the USGS website, under the undated heading, "Can we cause earthquakes? Is there any way to prevent earthquakes?" the agency notes, "Earthquakes induced by human activity have been documented in a few locations in the United States, Japan, and Canada.

Link -
http://www.minyanville.com/businessmarkets/articles/earthquake-natural-gas-Rocky-Mountain-Arsenal/11/9/2011/id/37856?camp=syndication&medium=portals&from=yahoo
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Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Nov 15th, 2011 at 10:53am
The world is locking itself into an unsustainable energy future which would have far-reaching consequences, IEA warns in its latest World Energy Outlook

Without a bold change of policy direction, the world will lock itself into an insecure, inefficient and high-carbon energy system, the International Energy Agency warned as it launched the 2011 edition of the World Energy Outlook (WEO). The agency‟s flagship publication, released today in London, said there is still time to act, but the window of opportunity is closing.

“Growth, prosperity and rising population will inevitably push up energy needs over the coming decades. But we cannot continue to rely on insecure and environmentally unsustainable uses of energy,” said IEA Executive Director Maria van der Hoeven.

“Governments need to introduce stronger measures to drive investment in efficient and low-carbon technologies. The Fukushima nuclear accident, the turmoil in parts of the Middle East and North Africa and a sharp rebound in energy demand in 2010 which pushed CO2 emissions to a record high, highlight the urgency and the scale of the challenge.”

In the WEO‟s central New Policies Scenario, which assumes that recent government commitments are implemented in a cautious manner, primary energy demand increases by one-third between 2010 and 2035, with 90% of the growth in non-OECD economies. China consolidates its position as the world’s largest energy consumer: it consumes nearly 70% more energy than the United States by 2035, even though, by then, per capita demand in China is still less than half the level in the United States. The share of fossil fuels in global primary energy consumption falls from around 81% today to 75% in 2035.

Renewables increase from 13% of the mix today to 18% in 2035; the growth in renewables is underpinned by subsidies that rise from $64 billion in 2010 to $250 billion in 2035, support that in some cases cannot be taken for granted in this age of fiscal austerity. By contrast, subsidies for fossil fuels amounted to $409 billion in 2010.

Short-term pressures on oil markets are easing with the economic slowdown and the expected return of Libyan supply. But the average oil price remains high, approaching $120/barrel (in year-2010 dollars) in 2035. Reliance grows on a small number of producers: the increase in output from Middle East and North Africa (MENA) is over 90% of the required growth in world oil output to 2035. If, between 2011 and 2015, investment in the MENA region runs one-third lower than the $100 billion per year required, consumers could face a near-term rise in the oil price to $150/barrel.

Oil demand rises from 87 million barrels per day (mb/d) in 2010 to 99 mb/d in 2035, with all the net growth coming from the transport sector in emerging economies. The passenger vehicle fleet doubles to almost 1.7 billion in 2035. Alternative technologies, such as hybrid and electric vehicles that use oil more efficiently or not at all, continue to advance but they take time to penetrate markets.

The use of coal – which met almost half of the increase in global energy demand over the last decade – rises 65% by 2035. Prospects for coal are especially sensitive to energy policies – notably in China, which today accounts for almost half of global demand.

More efficient power plants and carbon capture and storage (CCS) technology could boost prospects for coal, but the latter still faces significant regulatory, policy and technical barriers that make its deployment uncertain.

Fukushima Daiichi has raised questions about the future role of nuclear power. In the New Policies Scenario, nuclear output rises by over 70% by 2035, only slightly less than projected last year, as most countries with nuclear programmes have reaffirmed their commitment to them.

A special Low Nuclear Case examines what would happen if the anticipated contribution of nuclear to future energy supply were to be halved. While providing a boost to renewables, such a slowdown would increase import bills, heighten energy security concerns and make it harder and more expensive to combat climate change.

The future for natural gas is more certain: its share in the energy mix rises and gas use almost catches up with coal consumption, underscoring key findings from a recent WEO Special Report which examined whether the world is entering a “Golden Age of Gas”. One country set to benefit from increased demand for gas is Russia, which is the subject of a special in-depth study in WEO-2011.

In the New Policies Scenario, cumulative CO2 emissions over the next 25 years amount to three-quarters of the total from the past 110 years, leading to a long-term average temperature rise of 3.5°C.
Were the new policies not implemented, we are on an even more dangerous track, to an increase of 6°C.


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http://www.iea.org/weo/docs/weo2011/pressrelease.pdf
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Oil Demand may well continue to rise to 100 mb/d or so, by 2035, but Conventional Oil Production has already plateaued -  


So, any increase will have to come via other sources, such as converted Coal & Gas, as well as via agriculture.

All of which will put huge stresses, into these other areas!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Nov 23rd, 2011 at 1:48pm
Peak Oil 1 of 10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDv2zGh-xck&feature=related

Peak Oil 2 of 10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm8LHpvFKgQ&feature=related

Peak Oil 3 of 10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKD_D-WnJwo&feature=related

PeakOil - 4 of 10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV2YlynvoeU&feature=related

Peak Oil 5 of 10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEt7cpHyWzE&feature=related

Peak Oil 6 of 10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4D7vh28q-I&feature=related

Peak Oil 7 of 10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuU8Etbkjbo&feature=related

Peak Oil 8 of 10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doarAIRvDK8&feature=related

Peak Oil 9 of 10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-iImIlA_dE&feature=related

Peak Oil 10 of 10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQfdSXjeWuc&feature=related

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Dec 14th, 2011 at 1:36pm
Black Swan Events In 2012 Could Push Oil To $200

Oil prices throughout 2011 experienced volatility, while maintaining an upward trend. In 2012, oil prices will remain in that uptrend, but with even more volatility.

Tight Supply
The International Energy Agency estimates oil demand at 89.5 million barrels per day for 2012; oil supply is estimated at 88.3 million barrels per day. This tight situation means that any disruption will send prices much higher very quickly.

In 2011, we saw Brent prices increase dramatically during the political upheaval in the Middle East, especially when Libya went offline. If there are other such disruptions, this can render an already tight market even tighter — and send prices to new records.

In 2012, I’m going to be keeping a very close watch on any events that could cause supply-side disruptions, such as political upheavals and military conflicts.

Emerging Market Demand
One of the biggest shifts in the global oil markets over the last decade has been the increasing importance of emerging markets in the oil markets. Throughout much of the post-World War II period, demand was driven mainly by the United States and Europe. However, beginning in 2000, most of the demand growth in oil has been driven by emerging-market demand, primarily in Asia.

A case in point is demand for oil products and derivatives, such as gasoline and jet fuel, which has grown dramatically in the last five years. Oil product demand has more than doubled over the last five years, from 3 million barrels a day to more than 7 million barrels a day.

More than 50 percent of that demand growth came from emerging markets. Expect this trend to continue.

OPEC And Oil
Many market observers tend to forget how important a role OPEC plays in the global markets. In addition to being the global organization that has the most oil reserves in the world (more than 50 percent), OPEC is also important because it accounts for almost 40 percent of daily global oil production.

When Libya, an OPEC member, went offline due to political turmoil last spring, OPEC countries stepped up to the plate and increased supply in order to make up for the reduced output. This action helped calm markets and prevented prices from spiraling out of control. OPEC has a close handle on the oil price lever and it isn’t afraid to deploy it in order to serve the interests of its members.

OPEC is currently incentivized to keep oil prices in the triple-digit range, and the oil cartel has stated so publicly. OPEC has a number of tools at its disposal to maintain prices in this range, such as output quotas, which it will deploy at the right time.

Black Swan Events
There are certain black swan events that could cause prices to go through the roof. One is if there’s some sort of military altercation with Iran. Most of the world’s oil crosses the strategically located Strait of Hormuz in the Arabian Gulf. In case of a standoff between the United States and its allies and Iran and its allies, there’s a large risk that some of the oil transitioning through the Arabian Gulf will be trapped.

In this scenario, oil prices would experience the same effect as during the Arab oil embargo of the 1970s. Prices could skyrocket to $200/bbl or more with gas lines similar to those seen in America 40 years ago. A military confrontation with Iran that spills into the Arabian Gulf could send prices spiraling out of control.

Another scenario to keep an eye on is the euro-debt crisis. If the crisis isn’t resolved and the eurozone implodes economically, it could have an unpredictable impact on prices.

On the one hand, reduced economic growth should be bearish for prices; on the other hand, oil is a highly inelastic commodity and will be one of the last consumables to be reduced. Even in a case of a slowdown, it is not certain that oil prices will be reduced significantly. What is certain is that this will create more price volatility globally.

Next year is shaping up to be pivotal both in the global commodities markets and in the financial markets. We’re in the process of seeing a major shift in the global economic center of gravity, away from traditional oil-consuming countries like America and eurozone members toward Asia and emerging markets. This is manifesting itself in a number of forms, including in the oil markets.

Currently the majority of oil produced in Middle Eastern OPEC countries isn’t destined for Europe, but for Asia. This will continue.

Expect oil in 2012 to trend higher, but with plenty of volatility along the way; in the meantime, keep an eye out for black swan events that could send prices to uncharted levels.

Link -
http://seekingalpha.com/article/313482-black-swan-events-in-2012-could-push-oil-to-200?source=email_macro_view&ifp=0
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Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Dec 15th, 2011 at 7:43am
Oil ends below $95 as demand prospects weaken

Crude-oil futures closed below $95 a barrel Wednesday, with strength in U.S. dollar contributing to a more than 5% drop in prices, as comments from a group of major oil producers and broad losses in global stock markets raised concerns about prospects for oil demand.

Gasoline futures also fell sharply, as a U.S. government report showed that supplies last week climbed more than expected, pulling prices for the fuel down by nearly 5%.

Crude-oil futures for January delivery CL2F -5.24%  dropped $5.19, or 5.2%, to close at $94.95 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange after tapping a low of $94.21.

Prices marked their lowest settlement level and first close below $95 since Nov. 4.

At a meeting in Vienna on Wednesday, the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries said members will maintain their current, total production of 30 million barrels per day, including production from Libya, which has been ramping up to pre-civil-war levels.

“This decision was made because of elevated concerns about decelerating global growth,” said Jason Schenker, president at Prestige Economics.

“As such, we continue to affirm that equity and commodity markets are exposed to significant downside risks in the first two quarters of 2012,” he said in a report.

Indeed, the cartel noted that downside risks facing the global economy continue to include “the sovereign debt crisis in the euro zone, persistently high unemployment in the advanced economies and inflation risk in the emerging economies.”

It also warned that planned austerity measures in the euro zone and in other Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development countries are “likely to contribute to lower economic growth in the coming year.”

Link -
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/oil-futures-edge-back-below-100-a-barrel-2011-12-13?siteid=yhoof2
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The Decline in the Oil Price is being driven by a lower expectation of Demand for Oil, arising from a slowing Global Economy & from a recent rise in the value of the US$, as seen in the chart embedded in the following site.
http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/index/DXY

I expect that the Decline in Oil Prices will continue, in the short term, until the markets come to realise that Production/Supply is not keeping up, even with the reduced Demand levels and then the Prices will again start to rise!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Dec 15th, 2011 at 8:22am
As Old Oil Depletes, Slow Oil Takes Its Place

ExxonMobil (XOM) has released its 2012 Outlook for Energy: A view to 2040 report. I actually find these industry forecasts helpful, especially for their nuanced contrast with comparable long-range reports from EIA Washington and IEA Paris. For example, I find Exxon’s view that oil will retain its role as the primary energy source—not to be eclipsed by either natural gas or coal—unrealistic. But this is the same view held by IEA and EIA. Where Exxon is more on track however, is in their call that growth in global coal consumption should rise very strongly through the end of this decade. This is the call I would have expected IEA and EIA to make as well. Given current trends, I explained as much in Coal’s Terrible Forecast: Because it is coal, not oil, that is steadily growing in supply. And you can’t increase consumption of a resource whose supply has been flat, for the past six years.

Interestingly, Exxon alludes to the structural reasons behind oil’s stalled supply growth, in the following graphic. | see: Global Oil Production by Discovery Date


The reason oil cannot possibly avoid losing its grip as the world’s primary energy source, to either coal or natural gas, is that the rate of discoveries has slowed down dramatically since 1980. Moreover, “discoveries” since 1980 have primarily uncovered what I call Slow Oil. Slow Oil, unlike the large deposits of conventional crude—found onshore and brought online quickly—is extracted from complex reservoirs, at great depth, in harsh environments, or comes from unconventional deposits like tar sands. ExxonMobil writes:

    Much attention is paid to new energy technologies, with good reason. But it also is important to know that most of today’s liquid fuels come from fields that have been producing for decades. More than 95 percent of the crude oil produced today was discovered before the year 2000. About 75 percent was discovered before 1980.

The common mistake made in journalistic coverage of recent oil discoveries is that these consist of a wholly different tranche of oil, than pre-1980 oil or even pre-2000 oil. This is absolutely the reason why global oil production has been held below a ceiling since 2005. As I have noted before, forecasters who’ve been predicting for years that global oil production would start to increase again have finally gone quiet, and for good reason.

Link -
http://seekingalpha.com/article/313621-as-old-oil-depletes-slow-oil-takes-its-place?source=email_macro_view&ifp=0
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Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Dec 16th, 2011 at 8:33am
Chris Martenson, "If we're at Peak Oil we might have 10 or 5 Years"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCAoT5kHqL0

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Dec 24th, 2011 at 11:20am
USA: Oldest Baby Boomers Face Jobs Bust

Many older Americans fear they will be working well into their 60s because they didn't save enough to retire. Millions more wish they were that lucky: Without full-time jobs, they are short of money and afraid of what lies ahead.

Deborah Kallick was a professor of biomedical chemistry at the University of Minnesota until she ventured into the private sector in 2000 with a job in genome research. She is now one of more than four million Americans aged 55 to 64 who can't find full-time work. That number has nearly doubled in five years, according to U.S. Department of Labor figures in October.

Ms. Kallick, 60 years old, has been unemployed since 2007 and lives in the Northern California home of an ex-boyfriend. She has run out of unemployment insurance, used up most of her retirement savings and is indebted to relatives and credit-card companies.

Older Baby Boomers are trying to postpone retirement, as many find their spending habits far outpaced their thrift. With U.S. unemployment at 8.6%, and much higher among people in their teens and 20s, younger members of the labor pool accuse Boomers of refusing to gracefully exit the workplace.

But their long-held grip is slipping, as employers look past older Americans to younger, cheaper workers.

The Labor Department counts people as unemployed only if they have looked for a job in the previous month. By that definition, 6.5% of workers aged 55 to 64 were unemployed in October, below the national average but more than twice the jobless rate for the group five years earlier.

Taking into account the number of older people who want full-time work but are unemployed, working part-time or need a job but have quit looking, the percentage jumps to 17.4%, or 4.3 million Americans ages 55 to 64, according to the government data. The number has grown from 2.4 million in October 2006.

This group without full-time work now accounts for more than one in six older Americans seeking positions.

"This is new. It is different. It is worse than we have experienced before and it is very widespread," said Carl Van Horn, head of the John J. Heldrich Center for Workforce Development at Rutgers University. "It is going to get worse. You are going to have a higher level of poverty among older Americans."

The problem has been building for decades: Inflation-adjusted, middle-class incomes have stagnated in parallel with a free-spending culture of indebtedness that has left many Americans with too little saved. Over the same time, many U.S. companies cut pensions and shifted to less-generous retirement-savings plans such as 401(k) accounts that have stagnated or diminished in the market tumult of past years.

Older families aren't just failing to save, they are increasingly draining accounts that were supposed to help finance retirement.

The typical retirement-age household has too little saved to maintain its standard of living in retirement, according to actuarial and Federal Reserve data.

The trouble spreads across generations. Older people hang on to jobs or, out of desperation, take lower-level jobs for which they are over-qualified. Either way, they displace younger workers.

In the past, older people who lost jobs often gave up and retired. No longer. In October, two-thirds of people aged 55 to 64 had jobs or wanted them, up from 59% in 1994, according to Labor Department data.

At an age when they should be generating peak incomes and savings, many unemployed and underemployed Americans are applying for early Social Security benefits and spending what's left in their retirement accounts.





"We are seeing people in a panic, in survival mode," she said. "They are about to finish their financial assets and all they have after that is their retirement funds. They are trying to figure out some kind of bridge so they won't have to pay an early withdrawal fee for their retirement incomes."

Ms. Snay has even seen former donors return as clients. "There is a level of shame and humiliation," she said, "and, 'What have I done wrong?' "

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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204083204577080421127607002.html
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Nuff said!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jan 2nd, 2012 at 10:19pm
There Will Be Oil - Versus - Peak Oil Now

Claiming there is an oil limit on the economy and why peak oil is inevitable is usually talked down by saying its an unsure theory at best, and controversial, fear mongering or defeatist at worst. The totally simple numbers which prove it are however not Einstein-type mathematics and are not impossible to understand - - only by the badly intentioned or plain stupid.

We can start with the average oil consumption of OECD countries of about 14.4 barrels/capita/year, and try extending that to China and India. Presently they consume about 3 barrels per head in China and less than 2 barrels per head in India with recent growth rates as high as 6% per year.

This answer is simple: this is not possible. This will not happen. To be sure Chinese and Indian oil demand will increase, to be sure OECD oil demand will decrease. How this happens is the problem.

Daniel Yergin writing in 'Wall Street Journal' in Sept 2011 said: "Since the beginning of the 21st century, a fear has come to pervade prospects for oil (sic), fueling anxieties about the stability of global energy supplies. It has been stoked by rising prices and growing demand, especially as the people of China and other emerging economies have taken to the road".  His article was titled "There Will Be Oil". There are no worries !

Yergin like other technological and market optimists argues tight supplies lead to high fuel prices, and high fuel prices will make previously uneconomic and inaccessible oil resources, and any other limited-reserve or non-renewable resources extractable and producible. The trouble is that high prices are not just a symptom of the supply problem; high prices are the problem.

The Conventional Wisdom is the economy keeps bulldozing ahead, Titanic-style, maybe with some frictional inflation and a temporary blip upward in unemployment and company insolvencies, sovereign debts might rise a little, or a lot, but basically there is no oil shortage. No problem.
However, certainly since oil prices "bounced back" near the 100-dollar range for WTI, and as much as $125 a barrel for Brent, in October 2011, there has been a predictable flurry of outpourings from the No Worry school, where the logic is always contortionist.

CONTORTIONIST LOGIC

What we get from the No Worry school is a stock of one-liners. The premium one-liner is that thanks to deep offshore oil and shale oil, and falling oil consumption per unit of GDP, and other factors (even including green energy) we now have a realistic possibility that North America will be able to "declare oil independence", possibly within 10 years, but the exact date is eluded. The next is that Chinese and Indian oil demand will grow, to be sure, but supplies will be ample even if high priced - and because oil is high priced.

Contortionist oil logic actually welcomes the greatest recession since the 1930s by callling its stark effects - falling oil demand - the result of energy efficiency gains. We now have a new model for levering up innovation: Economic crisis and recession now equals innovation in energy ! If you didnt use your car to go to work because you dont have a job anymore - you are "innovating" in energy.

PEAKS AND SILLS
All the parameters can be stretched if world oil demand falls from its ultimate peak set by the depletion of conventional oil resources at around 90 - 92 Mbd. Current demand is about 89.5 Mbd.

Peak demand is therefore what matters, because peak supply is getting better known: possibly 92 Mbd and probably before 2015.  Conversely and in the totally hypothetical scenario of China and India ever consuming as much oil per head as the USA, South Korea, Japan, Germany and other OECD countries, they would need a combined 90 Mbd all to themselves to satisfy their demand. This is so luridly impossible it is amazing "nobody talks about it".

Falling global oil demand is totally possible - recession proves it.

FANTASIES AND FOIBLES

We get shunted into fantasy land because the Oil Future is so bleak. The green energy option, or so-called option is wheeled on stage, despite it being impossible to substitute current per capita fossil energy consumption in the so-called "postindustrial" countries consuming every imaginable type of industrial good and service. Green energy is in fact a bolt-on to the fossil energy pyramid, promoted by the media and communicated using every trick in a game where the public doesn’t know the rules. The "switch" to green energy would first need a massive shrink of energy use in the economy, in a fact a totally different economy, society and culture. Wecome to the future but lets not talk about it !

The basic problem is that Oil Independence for the USA, Europe, Japan and South Korea - or China and India - is a pure and simple myth unless the global economy disappears or these countries totally restructure their energy economies.

SHORT RUN LONG RUN
Put in simple numbers, world oil demand at 90 Mbd or 32.8 billion barrels a year makes it necessary to find, and then produce so-called mega fields or provinces very fast. The USA's Alaska North Slope and the Norwegian-UK North Sea province which both started production at serious rates in the 1975-80 period, with annual growth of output often topping 15%, doubling in 5 years, are now in irremediable and permanent decline. In the 1980s, these 2 provinces did at least as much as Saudi Arabia and Russia, and the economic recession through 1979-83, to collapse oil prices in 1985-86 and hold them low right through to year 2000.

Related to these numbers (Prudhoe Bay + North Sea = 2.4 years world oil demand), the rush for shale oil is understandable ! We therefore have the Bakken shale oil formation wheeled on stage by the optimists, estimated by the US Geological Survey to contain a supposedly "impressive" 4 billion barrels of technically recoverable oil in place - but this is peanuts compared with Prudhoe Bay or the North Sea.

Put another way and even more simply, Bakken production has at best covered the decline in Alaskan oil production, and since 2006 wells in the Montana section of the Bakken formation are in decline themselves.

Increasing gas supplies, because political deciders refuse to enable its greater use, will not slow the Peak Oil countdown, driven by the ultra simple reality of declining conventional oil reserves (and resources), which are not compensated by growing unconventional oil reserves (and resources), world oil demand will have to decline very soon.

In this real world, oil prices can only react and will react, exploding any time the right mix of daily news enables the traders to do this. This will be despite global economic recession and because oil-motivated political action by the world's biggest oil consumer countries will become more naked, open and aggressive.

Link -
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article32402.html
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We are at Hubbert's Peak, NOW!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jan 15th, 2012 at 3:23pm
The Conflict With Iran Could Send Oil Prices Above $200

Any disruption of oil through the Strait of Hormuz could see oil prices go parabolic; for oil equities with no exposure, there could be a hedge.

The headlines are ominous: “Iran Ready to Close Oil Shipping Routes”; “US, Iran Escalate Tensions in Persian Gulf”; “Iran: Closing the Strait of Hormuz Easier than Drinking a Glass of Water.”

Link -
http://seekingalpha.com/article/318460-the-conflict-with-iran-could-send-oil-prices-above-200?source=email_macro_view&ifp=0
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Sorry, I have been a little time restricted and still am, so I'll leave you to read the rest of the article.

But, if I can simply say YES, in the event of conflict with Iran, Oil Prices will go thru the roof & the Global Economy will crash!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jan 16th, 2012 at 7:57pm
How Global Oil Supplies Could Fall 40% Overnight

You’d never know it from the oil price, but the global seaborne oil supply might face a 40% cut. In the last few days the Brent Crude price has dropped from $115 to $110 a barrel, where it has spent much of the last three months.

So why could the global oil supply fall by 40% overnight?


Iran has threatened to block the Strait of Hormuz in response to US sanctions.

The Strait of Hormuz is the narrowest part of the Persian Gulf. Oil from producing countries like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the United Arab Emirates also ship their oil through the strait. All up, 40% of the oil produced around the world each day goes through this narrow channel.


So what sanctions would trigger Iran to block the Strait?

The US has asked the world to stop buying Iranian oil.

The US has lobbied China and Europe to buy their oil elsewhere. The US stopped buying Iranian oil years ago. China, Spain, Italy and Greece are still big buyers. Iran still makes up 5% of global production.

The US has put the pressure on Iran in this way to get Iran to give up its nuclear ambitions.

This reeks of hypocrisy. How can the US, which has the world’s largest store of nuclear weapons, tell other countries not to develop them? It is also inconsistent. The US let Israel develop its nuclear capacity with minimal interruption.

Iran is not happy being told what to do by a financially and morally bankrupt foreign power. And in response it threatens to close off the Strait, which would cause the oil price to soar.

The World’s Most Valuable Commodity
Oil has a long history of triggering conflicts. There is a great quote in the movie Blood Diamond that puts it well. A villager stands in front of his burning village, with dead bodies scattered everywhere, and says “…let’s hope they don’t find oil. Then we will have REAL problems.”

Because the Strait is an obvious flash point, the US has a strong military presence in the region. The US Navy has a fleet moored off the coast of Dubai. Right now, the US has positioned two aircraft carriers in the Strait, and a third is on its way. Of course, Iran has a powerful military of its own. And while Iraq had few friends, Iran has powerful allies in Russia and China. Conflict needn’t be naval either. Soldiers can launch powerful anti-ship missiles just as easily from small trucks hidden in nearby desert.

Is the US drawing the world back into war?

If you look to the calmly trading oil market for answers, it doesn’t seem likely. Oil prices have been falling, not rising.

And there are a few good reasons for this.

For one thing, the US can’t afford a conflict. Its last two conflicts have cost $1 trillion each. Obama has asked Congress to raise the US debt ceiling (again) by $1.2 trillion to $16.4 trillion. And that’s just to pay for the yawning gap between tax revenues and government expenses.

More importantly, the US knows conflict would lead to oil prices high enough to freeze economic growth in its tracks.

But Iran has rephrased its threat slightly over the weekend. Ahmad Valid, Iran’s defence minister, has back-pedaled and said Iran did not actually say “it will close the strait”.

Making sure everyone understands each other would be a good start.

The US has lobbied China and Europe to drop Iranian oil, but has not made much progress. China doesn’t seem interested. Europe has asked for six months to consider its options. Japan, South Korea and India have said they would only reduce their use. Sanctions are only partly in place.

So far it seems the US has stirred up Iran, without achieving anything.

Quite rightly, the countries that buy oil from Iran would like to know where they could get oil from instead. 5% of global supply is not easy to replace. Saudi Arabia, the world’s largest oil exporter, is confident it can bridge the shortfall. Ali Naomi, Saudi Arabia’s oil minister said, “Whatever customers want, we will give it to them.”

But it is widely believed that Saudi Arabia is already at peak production, and doesn’t have anywhere near the reserves it claims to have. So whether it can bridge the shortfall is to be seen.

Needless to say, this kind of talk has drawn Saudi Arabia into the fray. Iran has said, “Such moves are not considered friendly, and that the consequences…could not be predicted.”

The US would prefer to avoid conflict. But Iran could be unpredictable when backed into a corner. How this will pan out is impossible to say.

The Strategy Ahead
It does point to the increasing importance of sourcing energy from less volatile regions, preferably from your own doorstep. For example, the shale gas revolution in the US has given it an entirely new home-grown energy source. Shale gas projects in Australia are having some success as well.

Being self-sufficient will become more important as global tensions build over energy supplies. But it’s not just the Strait of Hormuz that we should focus on.

The South China Sea is a bit closer to home. And it could be a more important flash point. About 30% of the world’s seaborne oil is shipped through the 2 km wide Straits of Malacca (between Singapore and Sumatra), into the South China Sea.

China has been throwing its weight around much more in the last few years, claiming disputed territories and islands.

The US has recently stepped up its footprint in the area. It has promised to divert its military resources to police the region in the 21st century.

This military build-up in our backyard could have big implications for energy stocks in the future. And there will be some highly profitable investing opportunities on the back of it.

Link -
http://www.moneymorning.com.au/20120116/how-global-oil-supplies-could-fall-40-overnight.html
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Dilemma's, the world is full of Dilemma's!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Feb 25th, 2012 at 3:15pm
Oil Caps Longest Rally in Two Years on Iran

Oil capped its longest rally since January 2010 as escalating tension with Iran threatens supplies and on signs of a global economic recovery.

Futures advanced above $109 a barrel for the first time in nine months as sanctions against the Persian Gulf nation make it more difficult to sell oil. Iran dismissed UN atomic inspectors’ concerns that nuclear-weapon work is occurring, a document acquired by Bloomberg News showed. American, French and South Korean consumer confidence gained, reports showed today.

“Everyone is looking at $110 oil,” said Stephen Schork, president of the Schork Group in Villanova, Pennsylvania. “The tension between Iran and the West has risen to an incredible level. We’re trading on fear that this will deteriorate into a new war in the Middle East.”

Crude oil for April delivery rose $1.94, or 1.8 percent, to $109.77 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange, the highest settlement since May 3. The front-month contract increased 6.3 percent this week. Crude’s seven-day advance was the longest since the period ended Jan. 6, 2010.

Brent oil for April settlement gained $1.42, or 1.1 percent, to $125.04 a barrel on the London-based ICE Futures Europe exchange. Earlier, it touched a nine-month high of $125.55 a barrel.

Iran “dismissed the agency’s concerns” about its nuclear program, the International Atomic Energy Agency said today in the 11-page restricted document. The Persian Gulf nation tripled its quarterly rate of producing 20 percent-enriched uranium, the according to the report from the IAEA, the United Nations’ nuclear arm.

Nuclear Program
While Iran has said its nuclear program is for civilian purposes, the U.S. and its allies have alleged Iran is developing the capacity to produce nuclear weapons. Iran, the second-biggest producer in the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, pumped about 3.5 million barrels of oil a day last month, according to Bloomberg News data.

Turkiye Halk Bankasi AS, the Turkish bank that handles payments for Iranian oil, may stop processing transactions for supplies to Turkey starting in July, according to an official at Tupras Turkiye Petrol Rafinerileri AS, which operates four plants. Tupras won’t be able to use the bank after June 30 without a U.S. waiver, the official said yesterday.

“There’s an undercurrent of fear about the Iranian nuclear situation and what that will mean for global supplies as people scramble to replace Iranian barrels,” said Gene McGillian, an analyst and broker at Tradition Energy in Stamford, Connecticut.

The U.S. has offered to help India, which also uses Halk for payments to Iran, get alternative oil supplies, according to three people with knowledge of the matter.

Financial Sanctions
U.S. sanctions against financial institutions that deal with Iran take effect at the end of June, while the European Union plans to ban imports of Iranian oil from the beginning of July. Swift, the global bank-transfer service, said last week it is prepared to impose sanctions against Iranian financial institutions once the EU sets out implementation rules.

“If Swift imposes sanctions on Iran, the country will be squeezed,” Schork said. “There’s a risk they will lash out.”


Israel and the U.S. have said all options are on the table in ensuring Iran doesn’t acquire atomic weapons. The Islamic republic has threatened to block shipments through the Strait of Hormuz, a transit route for about 20 percent of the world’s globally traded crude, if its exports are blocked.


“Iran is a bullish factor that isn’t going away anytime soon,” said Peter Beutel, president of trading advisory company Cameronhanover.com in New Canaan, Connecticut. “We’re waiting for a resolution of some kind, be it negotiations or an attack by Israeli planes.”

Goldman Projection
Goldman Sachs Group Inc. said on Feb. 22 that West Texas Intermediate oil will rise this year, even as the highest U.S. oil output level in nine years threatens to increase stockpiles.

Sales of new homes in the U.S. slipped 0.9 percent to a 321,000 annual pace in January from a 324,000 rate the prior month that was stronger than previously reported, figures from the Commerce Department showed. The median estimate of 77 economists surveyed by Bloomberg News was 315,000.

The Thomson Reuters/University of Michigan final index of consumer sentiment for February rose to 75.3 from 75 in January. A measure of French consumer sentiment rose to 82 from 81 last month, national statistics office Insee said today. South Korea’s sentiment index rose to 100 in February from 98.

IMF Warning
Group of 20 finance ministers and central bank governors meet in Mexico City tomorrow after euro-area governments sanctioned a 130 billion-euro ($175 billion) aid package for Greece this week and the International Monetary Fund warned that debt concern could drag the world into another recession.

“Downside risks from a complete macroeconomic meltdown are receding fast,” said Paul Horsnell, London-based head of commodities research at Barclays Plc. “However, geopolitical risks are on the rise, with the escalating tension about Iran manifesting itself in a series of proxy wars.”

Link -
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-24/crude-oil-rises-for-a-seventh-day-as-iran-tensions-bolster-supply-concerns.html
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A few observations -
1) Oil Prices are set to rise substantially, over the next few years, due to Peal Oil!
2) But, if the Iran situation gets out of hand, then the Oil Price rise would be much larger and possibly, much quicker!
3) The following chart on US Housing provides one very clear example of how much the US Economy has Declined in recent years, with new housing construction Peaking at around 1.4 million in 2006, it has now slipped to 321,000 and the existing homes market is absolutely clogged with massive numbers of repossessed homes or where the owners have simply walked away from them, for which no buyers can be found!



Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Mar 3rd, 2012 at 11:40pm
Chris Martenson On The Reality Of Peak Oil

http://3blmedia.com/theCSRfeed/Chris-Martenson-Reality-Peak-Oil

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Mar 11th, 2012 at 11:00am
Oil shale is not a viable fuel source, study says

Scientists’ best estimates of the Energy Return on Investment (EROI) of oil shale suggest it is very inefficient compared to conventional fuel and emits up to 75% more greenhouse gases (GHGs. However, differences in the way energy efficiency is calculated can cause confusion over its potential use, according to the US study.

Shale is a sedimentary rock containing kerogen, which is heated to produce synthetic crude oil (oil shale). Liquid fuel derived from oil shale has been suggested as an alternative to conventional oil and gas. However, the energy inputs or 'costs' associated with oil shale are not always fully accounted for, leading to overestimates of its value relative to other fuel sources.

The study evaluated estimates of the energy efficiency of oil shale, using a method known as 'Energy Return on Investment' (EROI). In its most complete form, this is the ratio of the energy content of the fuel produced to the energy used over the full 'well to wheels' life-cycle of the product, including exploration, mining, processing, refining, transportation and combustion.

The most comprehensive study indicates an EROI of 2 to produce oil shale, meaning that 2 units of energy are produced for every unit consumed. This is very low compared to the EROI for conventional crude oil of around 20. Including the refining step, the EROI of producing gasoline from crude oil is around 4.7 compared to 1.4 for producing liquid fuel from oil shale.

Fully accounting for all energy used is also vital in assessing GHG emissions. Emissions from oil shale, which result from the direct energy input and as a product of the extraction reaction, are estimated to be 1.25 -1.75 times higher than for conventional crude oil. Oil shale production also requires large amounts of land and up to three barrels of water per barrel of oil produced. These environmental costs together with the low EROI lead the researchers to conclude that, although the energy accounting process needs rigourous review, there is little economic or environmental incentive to use oil shale as a fuel source.

Link -
http://ec.europa.eu/environment/integration/research/newsalert/pdf/276na3.pdf
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So, aside from the likelihood that Oil Shale is virtually an Energy sink, it is also likely that the processes involved will also cause -
1) The contamination of underground water acquifiers, with cancer causing chemicals.
2) More GHG's than Conventional Oil.
3) Earthquakes.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Mar 25th, 2012 at 11:23am
China Reaches Peak Coal

Coal presently supplies about 67% of China's commercial energy but its National Energy Administration, 21 March, released its five-year 2011-2016 plan for Chinese coal, which features a near-term peak, and then decline of coal in the energy economy.

The world’s largest user and producer of coal intends to limit domestic output and consumption of the commodity by 2017, to reduce pollution and to curb reliance on this fuel, which also faces a rising number of supply problems from reserve depletion to coal import costs, infrastructure and transport needs.

The NEA announced that coal demand growth will be restricted to zero, and consumption to a maximum of around 3.9 to 4.1 billion metric tons a year by or before 2017.

China's coal consumption
, including a growing amount of imports estimated at about 25 million tons this year but forecast to increase to 200 million tons a year by 2015, totaled about 3.75 billion tons in 2011.

At that rate and for China's estimated 1.33 billion population, this is a consumption rate of 2.8 tons per person a year, which we can compare with the coal consumption peaks attained by early industrializing Europe in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. In 1913 for example, the UK attained its all-time coal peak at about 215 million tons a year. For its 1913 population this was close to 5 tons per person a year. Current US coal consumption of almost exactly 1 billion tons per year yields about 3.3 tons of coal per person each year.

China is the world’s biggest producer of carbon emissions and coal-related pollutants, and its authorities intend cutting both of these by as much as 17% per unit of GDP through the period to 2017, but its coal path remains locked-on to its economic growth.

Throughout the period since 2000, Chinese coal demand growth has tracked the economy with a 1-for-1 relationship, resulting in coal demand growing at more than 8% a year, doubling the nation's need for coal every 7 years.

The main problem is therefore China's vast coal energy-dependence, and growing coal import dependence comparable to the OECD group's heavy dependence on declining and high-priced supplies of imported oil.

CHINA MULLS COAL ALTERNATIVES
China's coal demand growth will definitely slow, and reach a set limit, not only because of environmental concerns but also because of China's value-added and technology-based industrial and economic strategy. Coal remains cheap, is basic to iron and steel production, and for electricity production, but has nothing like the flexibility, ease of use and lower environmental impact of oil and gas energy. However, due to China's massive dependence on coal, achieving zero growth for coal by or before 2017 is a difficult goal unless the government substantially trims economic growth and accelerates its programme for phasing out energy-intensive industries, which are hard to reconcile.

Simply due to more than 66% of China's current electricity being produced from coal, with little potential for raising China's already impressive hydro output, and with the gas alternative currently based only on high-priced LNG imports, China's coal demand growth is locked-on to its economic growth.

Breaking that link will in no way be easy and the short timeframe for achieving major change may indicate that China will engage a massive energy transition plan away from coal, and may be constrained to import more oil in the short-term.

The Chinese government is considering a wide range of alternatives to coal, both on the economic structure side, and on the energy supply side. China's annual growth of windpower and solar electric generating capacity is now running at about one-quarter of its annual 90 GW increase in power capacity, this annual increase being equivalent to two-thirds of Germany's total installed power capacity, and may rise further. This however will not be enough to achieve transition away from coal, and the nuclear option remains dogged by very high costs and long lead times.

Under any scenario however, Its now official goal of cutting the role of coal energy “significantly” will have major impacts. Coming adjustments to the nation’s energy economy and energy structure, as well as new and tighter environmental protection measures, will cause impacts that can affect global energy.

The especially include China's rapidly building hopes for shale gas development, its alternate energy industries and its oil demand.

REPLACING COAL
China's NEA says that it is able to expand coal production and import capacity by 750 million tons a year in the short term, and might attain an ultimate peak of 4.1 billion tons a year, by about 2015, of which as much as 200 million tons/year could be imported. The role of China's coal imports, for energy traders, is almost as important as China's ever rising import demand for oil. This is due to both of Asia's giant emerging economies, India and China, being increasingly obliged to import coal due to their overstretched national coal mining and transport industries facing cost and infrastructure limits and their mines facing coal depletion issues. At the same time, coal import demand by Europe is rising, despite its clean energy programmes, and import demand remains strong in developed Asia. Coal export prices, which at oil parity would attain about $500 per ton, may however hit a ceiling due to rising LNG gas availability and declining gas prices triggered by US shale gas development, enabling China and India to import more coal at prices that cease to grow.

While costly high-tech LNG infrastructures like regasification terminals are rapidly being built by China and India, the gas alternative to coal for both countries mainly concerns their hopes for domestic shale gas development, but this is not growing at anywhere near the pace needed to phase out coal, or even cover their annual growth of coal demand. The net result is that both coal and oil import demand, by China, will likely tend to grow faster than previously anticipated and forecast.

Despite the Chinese target of cutting the energy intensity of its GDP by 17% over 5 years, coal demand growth has been running at 8% or more, per year, and this sets the "energy gap" for non-coal alternatives at around 300 million tons a year of coal, equivalent to 1.5 billion barrels of oil energy, by or before 2017.  Replacing this 0.3 Mtce (tons coal equivalent) with either gas or oil will have major impacts on world energy trades, leaving the green energy and energy conservation option as a major rational choice for Chinese planners.

To be sure, Chinese hopes for shale gas are high, with the US EIA crediting China with the world's largest national resources, but without major gas transport infrastructures and shale gas E&P only at a very early stage, Chinese hopes are not matched by results on the ground. LNG import expansion is also problematic for China, for infrastructure reasons and due to present very high LNG prices for Asian destinations, sometimes above $18 per million BTU, driven by sustained import demand from Japan, South Korea, Taiwan and other ASEAN countries.

As a net result, it is likely China's oil import demand may grow more than currently forecast - rather than tend to stagnate - with major impacts on global oil prices, going forward.

Link -
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article33766.html
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What is said by Politicians & others, often does not reflect Reality or the Truth, which Tony Abbott has already confirmed!

What is usually trotted out, is a load of -
Credible
Reliable
Abundant
Paradoxes

Which is again the situation here, with the Chinese Energy forecasting!

Of interest, is the fact that China is the worlds largest producer of Coal (by far), so given their Energy needs and the lack of alternatives, IF their Coal production starts to Decline, you can be assured that it would be because the CHINESE HAVE HIT PEAK COAL PRODUCTION!




And, when Chinese Coal production starts to Decline(NOT IF, BUT WHEN), it will transform Global Coal production into this -



Which coincidentally is a similar looking BUBBLE to that created by Peak Oil production and in fact, the Global Economy as a whole!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jul 5th, 2012 at 12:41pm
Beyond Thunderdome: The Facts On Oil Scarcity

I have seen more fear in the articles discussing oil scarcity than I have in those proclaiming the economic Armageddon is around the corner. While I think we are setup for an economic crash, I am not convinced the end of cheap oil is the end of civilization as we know it. Rather, I think it is the beginning of a new phase of energy usage that will simply change how we value energy and use it in our daily lives.

Supply
the Middle Eastern supply of oil has kept up with aggregate demand increases in Asia. Interestingly, Europe and the US, while large demanders of oil, have not significantly increased their demand for crude in quite some time.

Let's take a look at current oil production graphed against the historical supply growth rate. Production has recently fallen off the 30 year trend, but not as dramatically as originally predicted.



Most supply increase has come from OPEC nations, with US production at 13 year highs owing to hydraulic fracking in shale and carbonate plays. Canadian supply is down slightly. Brazillian supply is down. African supply is down sharply mainly due to conflicts in Sudan.



Costs and EROI
Getting oil out of the ground costs us money. Costs have been rising over time to produce a barrel of oil, and hence the price of oil has increased in unison.

Break-even costs for extracting oil have been rising.



Not all oil is equal; costs of production versus market price gives some producers an advantage.

It is plainly obvious that the energy return on investment for oil has sharply fallen in the US since the beginning of the oil boom age. This is true everywhere. Common EROI values for major forms of energy are shown next.



Just looking at the first EROI graph creates panic that the world as we know it is about to end. But EROI as traditionally presented is a bit of a math trick. EROI is the ratio of the amount of oil we get for each equivalent barrel of oil energy used in extraction. So a 20:1 return implies that for every barrel of oil energy equivalent expended, we get 20 barrels of oil energy in return. As the number falls to 7:1 for most oil sands projects in Canada, it is easy to imagine where gasoline prices should triple in short order. But that hasn't quite happened.

Reserves
Future oil production and supplies are what interests most economists and investors looking to make decisions on what to do next with oil. It is interesting to note that world proved reserves have increased quite substantially in the past 20 years.





Heavy oil, which is harder to process, and oil sands bitumen make up a significant portion of reserves. In addition, the growing gap of new oil discoveries shows that we aren't going to see cheaper oil in our lifetime, unless an astounding breakthrough in mining technologies drives costs of more difficult oil extraction lower. The reasonable expectation here is that innovation in drilling oil will keep prices from rising exponentially in the near term, but not keep them from rising faster than the general level of economic inflation we see in other commodity prices or in gold. Oil is just going to get more and more expensive to gather.





At the end of the day, we are running out of cheap oil. But several factors will mitigate how much damage is done by this, and how quickly. If we act on the several profitable energy projects available to us, and intelligently shift usage of other transportation energy substitutes, we can mitigate the impact of the coming oil drain will have on our way of life. And perhaps we can stop spending $1.2 trillion on oil wars and realize THAT money could have been much better spent proactively planning for the changes in our energy futures.

Link -
http://seekingalpha.com/article/701261-beyond-thunderdome-the-facts-on-oil-scarcity?source=email_macro_view&ifp=0
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Ah, finally remembered, unfinished business here!

1) The first graph, Production - Actual Vs Historical Trend, indicates that Production has now begun the process of decoupling Actual Production from the Historical Demand trend line and that is confirmed by the second chart, the World Oil Supply & Demand chart.
2) The third chart, on the Breakeven Oil Prices for various Oil Producers, confirms that Prices have risen, as the older/cheaper fields have gone into decline.
3) The Net Energy Cliff chart indicates the diminishing returns on Energy, as we move from the older Oil Fields, to the newer ones and as we move to the newer Energy Products, such as Tar Sands & Bio-Diesel.
4) The Growth in "Proven Oil Reserves" is rubbish, given that much of the new reserves is a fictitious invention out of the OPEC countries & much of the rest is in newer, low EROI Products, such as TAR Sands & Heavy Oils, which is confirmed by the World Oil Reserves chart and the collapsing Oil Discovery rate since the mid 1970's.
5) Finally the US Energy use chart, demonstrates the absolute reliance on fossil fuels, particularly bearing in mind the long lead in times to change to new Energy sources, should they miraculously appear!




Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 1st, 2012 at 9:28pm
Charting Australia's Peak Oil decline

The Australian Government makes following the progress of Australia's Peak Oil decline very difficult.

Prior to 2006, oil production data was published in ABARE's "Australian Mineral Statistics", which came out quarterly, and accumulated the quarters onto financial year annual boundaries, (July-June) , which differs from the normal international convention of calendar years.

Then in 2006 they revised the method of collecting data, and back-dated the revised data set, meaning there was a "wrong" set and a "right" set of data.

Then in 2010, ABARE was relieved of the responsibility of publishing the data, which was taken on by the Department of Resources, Energy and Tourism (RET) (Tourism ? Yes, that's right). They now publish "Australian Petroleum Statistics", which is monthly and in Excel spreadsheet format.

You can get annual figures going back to 1965 from BP's Statistical Review of World Energy, but their definition of "oil" has changed to include Crude Oil plus Condensate plus NGPLs (including LPG) plus ethanol plus biodiesel, so that figure is much higher (64% or so in 2011) due to Australia's booming gas fields.

So to see the progress of Australia's Peak Oil decline in a chart, you have to download 9 spreadsheets and extract the monthly data on Crude Oil, and paste it into a new "history" spreadsheet to chart it. You can then accumulate the monthly data to calendar years.

And to extend the data set back to before 2003 to see the peak in 2000, you must also download the relevant PDFs from ABARE, go through the laborious convertion process on the quarterly data, and accumulate them to calendar years.

One wonders whether there is a better data set that the Government uses, or whether they just want to avoid thinking about Peak Oil altogether by simply not having the data in a useful form.

But fear not, I have done all the hard work for you.

And here is the data complied from both ABARE and RET accumulated to calendar years:
(The figure for December 2011 hasn't been published yet, so that is estimated by averaging)


As you can see, in 2011 we only produced 36% of what we produced in 2000, and the fall off rate for 2008-11 has been particularly rapid, averaging 12% per year, and accelerating.
The reduction from 2010 to 2011 has been a staggering 24.1%.

In the face of this decline, to suggest that "a higher oil price will bring more oil to market" is complete nonsense.

Self-sufficency ?
The international oil refining industry is ultra-competitive and causes some odd things to happen. Instead of our refineries using our oil as feedstock, we export a lot of our oil because it is "light sweet crude" and attracts high prices, and we import "heavy sour crude" which is cheaper, and mix it with our Condensate (from gas wells) to produce some of our petrol and diesel and other fuels. We also import a lot of refined petrol and diesel, and export some to Pacific island nations (our little empire).

In the 12 months to November 2011, we exported 18,136 MegaLitres of crude+condensate, and imported 31,055 MegaLitres of crude.
We also imported 3,085 ML of automotive gasoline, and 10,143 ML of diesel,
plus other varieties as well.

Our chief crude oil suppliers are : United Arab Emirates, Congo, Nigeria and Malaysia. We even get some from Russia.

Most of our imported petrol comes from Singapore, and most of our imported diesel comes from Singapore, South Korea and Japan.

Given this dependency on world petroleum trade, any disruption to that trade would see us floundering, along with the rest of the world. It is a puzzle, therefore, why we are itching for a fight with Syria and Iran, that would probably set the Middle East alight. My guess is that it is all a bluff, if not, they (western governments) must be so desperate that they are prepared to risk everything rather than give up their power and privileges.

Link -
http://www.peakoil.org.au/news/au.oil-prod.htm
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Anyone could be excused, for thinking that government/s had set out to confuse the issue, because they did & they continue to try to!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 2nd, 2012 at 10:10pm
Peak Oil: ABC 4 Corners

http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/special_eds/20060710/default_full.htm

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Sep 2nd, 2012 at 11:20pm
An interesting Conclusion from 2005 -
http://www.peakoil.net/AIMseminar/UU_AIM_Robelius.pdf
20 years ago, 15 fields had the capacity to produce more than 1,000,000 bbl/d. Today only four field can produce that much:
•Ghawar (Saudi Arabia), 1948 (Field Discovery)
•Kirkuk(Iraq), 1938 (Field Discovery)
•Burgan Greater (Kuwait), 1927 (Field Discovery)
•Cantarell (Mexico), 1976 (Field Discovery)

Current Production -
Ghawar (Saudi Arabia) - 5,000,000 bbl/d
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghawar_Field
Kirkuk (Iraq) - 200,000 bbl/d
https://www.hightable.com/oil/insight/kirkuk-upgrade-will-be-slow-and-costly
Burgan (Kuwait) - 1,200,000 bbl/d
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burgan_field
Cantarell (Mexico) - 464,000 bbl/d
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantarell_Field

Btw full Saudi Production since 1991 is -
year      production  change
1991      8,115.00      26.60 %
1992      8,331.70      2.67 %
1993      8,197.81      -1.61 %
1994      8,120.00      -0.95 %
1995      8,231.23      1.37 %
1996      8,218.08      -0.16 %
1997      8,362.03      1.75 %
1998      8,388.90      0.32 %
1999      7,833.39      -6.62 %
2000      8,403.80      7.28 %
2001      8,031.10      -4.43 %
2002      7,634.40      -4.94 %
2003      8,775.00      14.94 %
2004      9,100.82      3.71 %
2005      9,550.14      4.94 %
2006      9,152.33      -4.17 %
2007      8,721.51      -4.71 %
2008      9,261.25      6.19 %
2009      8,250.11      -10.92 %
2010      8,900.00      7.88 %
2011      9,475.34      6.46 %

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Oct 5th, 2012 at 11:47am
Beware The Coming Bear Market In Oil

The crude oil price chart for the past year resembles a roller-coaster ride. After climbing through the late fall and winter, prices peaked earlier this spring, dropped precipitously through May and June, and then rebounded during the summer.



Volatility continued last week, beginning with a mini "flash crash" on Monday afternoon, as oil prices dropped by nearly $4 in just a few minutes. Prices dropped further on Tuesday based on news that Saudi Arabia was pumping more than 10 million bpd in order to bring down prices.

In total, oil prices dropped nearly $10/barrel from the Monday high to the Wednesday low. However, oil recouped several dollars of its losses on Thursday and Friday, due in part to supply outages in the North Sea.

Oil's trading action last week could be indicative of a small correction to establish a new trading range, or it could be the beginning of a more sustained drop in oil prices. I am inclined to believe that oil prices will continue to drop through the fall. There are three primary reasons for this: 1) growing U.S. oil production; 2) seasonally lower demand; and 3) global economic weakness.

Domestic oil production has grown by over 500,000 bpd year over year (nearly 10%) according to recent EIA statistics. While production in Alaska is decreasing, this is far outweighed by growing output in the lower 48 states, most notably from the Bakken formation in North Dakota.

Beyond seasonal factors, world oil demand is stagnating.
Whereas the oil market was helped last fall by the belief that Chinese demand would continue to grow, recent economic data from China points toward a "hard landing." None of the other major world economies (the U.S., EU, and Japan) are showing significant growth, either. Additionally, the U.S. and other developed countries have made considerable efficiency gains in recent years, which will permanently lower demand. U.S. gasoline usage has been dropping since the 2008 recession.

Since oil demand in the U.S. and other developed countries has already peaked, and China (the largest developing economy) is mired in a slowdown, there are no demand-side drivers to keep prices above $100.

The oil market has seen violent swings in recent years; once the market recognizes the extent of excess supply available, prices could drop rapidly.

Link -
http://seekingalpha.com/article/883011-beware-the-coming-bear-market-in-oil?source=email_macro_view&ifp=0#comment_update_link
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The central question is, how can "Unconventional" Oil sources intend to compare with the EROEI of "Conventional" Oil and the answer is it can't!

My reasoning here is that Conventional Crude Oil started with an EROEI that was probably a little North of 100/1, but that is now Globally under 50/1 and depending on circumstances, in specific instances it may already be under 20/1, depending on where the Oil comes from and where it's going to.

For "Unconventional" Oil sources 20/1 would be an absolute luxury! In fact, the EROEI of much of the "Unconventional" sources are 5/1 & under.

My point is that Global Economic growth in the modern era has largely come from -
1) Population Growth.
2) Spare Energy Capacity, arising largely from a high EROEI, sourced mainly from Oil & Coal.
3) High Productivity Growth, arising from new Technologies & a large spare Energy capacity.

It should be apparent that Population Growth is now levelling off, prior to going into Decline, as 2 Billion Baby Boomers Globally first retire, and then die over the next 20-30 years.

It is also apparent that spare Energy Capacity has been in Decline for quite some time and that the continuing Depletion of "Conventional" Oil will speed the Decline of the EROEI of Global Oil Energy, to under 5/1, in the not too distant future.

A combination of the above is already resulting in much greater stresses, in Global Productivity & Economic Growth.

Arising from the above, plus historic Global Debt levels & Climate Change related issues affecting Food & water Supply & Pricing, I expect to see the current GFC, re-ignite and force the Global Economy into another serious & this time lengthy slowdown.

Due to these factors, I see the WTi Oil Price going to around the $50-$60 range, over the next couple of years.

However, it will then take off again, irrespective of the state of the Global Economy, when the Demand/Supply realities catch up & it becomes apparent that Consumption/Demand is only somewhat elastic, whilst the Production/Supply of Energy (specifically Oil) is now far less elastic, as Oil Supply (that is actual Production, not so called Reserves) continues to go backward, relative to the Population/Demand curve.

The reason that Prices will again take off is simple, it is because these sources of "Unconventional" Oil will prove incapable of Producing sufficient actual volume, to offset the Depletion rate of existing Global "Conventional" Oil fields and when it finally becomes obvious that Supply can not keep up with even a lowered Demand, then Oil Prices will surge?

That Oil Price surge will further Decimate the disposable income of individuals, businesses & governments, by forcing up Energy & all related Product Costs, which is pretty much everything!

Now, there was & is a 3rd component to modern era Economic Growth & that is Technology. And, it just may be that the Technology cavalry will ride over the hill and save us, at the last moment?

But, I must say, there is nothing currently, even on far horizons, that would suggest any Technology revolution of the nature & scale required AND I really must recommend that relying on last minute miracles is not good Public Policy!

Btw, there may well be other costs to include in the Fracking process, which is one of the new "Unconventional" Oil sources, than would automatically be included in their EROEI.

Just as the Japanese are now finding out with their Nuclear industry, it is likely there will be additional costs to Fracking, according to seismologists?



Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Dec 6th, 2012 at 9:31pm
The Future Of Global Energy Security Rests On The Shoulders Of (Gulp) Iraq

The International Energy Agency released its 2012 World Energy Outlook this month and it caused quite a stir in the mainstream media. The mainstream headlines were focused on the fact that the IEA said that thanks to the shale oil revolution, by 2020 the United States will be the world's largest producer of oil.

The message from most media sources that I saw was basically that our oil supply worries are over. We could forget about $100 per barrel oil prices and we could forget about the concept of Peak Oil. The mainstream media basically seemed to think that the United States is going to have a glut of oil before we know it. I saw several articles that even referred to the United States becoming an oil exporter.

Hold on a minute, I say.

I think the media missed the point of the IEA report. Or perhaps more accurately didn't read further than the first headline to get to the main point.

Because when I read what the IEA has to say I still don't feel too comfortable about the ability of the world to create enough oil production on a daily basis over the coming decades to keep up with where global demand is going.

Everything Riding on Iraq


What I believe has been missed by most of the media is that according to the IEA, for the world to keep daily oil supply and demand in balance through 2035 we are completely reliant on one country. That country is Iraq. Here is what the IEA is assuming about that troubled country's oil production:

Much is riding on Iraq's success

Iraq makes the largest contribution by far to global oil supply growth. Iraq's ambition to expand output after decades of conflict and instability is not limited by the size of its resources or by the costs of producing them, but will require coordinated progress all along the energy supply chain, clarity on how Iraq plans to derive long-term value from itshydrocarbon wealth and successful consolidation of a domestic consensus on oil policy.

Am I the only one who finds that a little disturbing? The IEA explicitly states that without this supply growth from Iraq oil markets would be set for difficult times, and prices would be $15 per barrel higher than what the IEA is projecting. And what the IEA is projecting for oil prices by the way is:

    Growth in oil consumption in emerging economies, particularly for transport in China,India and the Middle East, more than outweighs reduced demand in the OECD, pushing oil use steadily higher in the New Policies Scenario.

I've been watching the headlines from Iraq like I'm sure many others do. The violence there is still at shocking levels. The entire region looks less stable now that at any time that I can remember. I don't believe for one second that Iraq can live up to the assumptions the IEA is using. I'm concerned that the entire OPEC group of countries will actually have less production in the years ahead should the troubles in Iraq, Syria and Egypt spread.

Link -
http://seekingalpha.com/article/1040701-the-future-of-global-energy-security-rests-on-the-shoulders-of-gulp-iraq?source=email_macro_view&ifp=0
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Is it not, now fortuitous, that the USA is now in control of IRAQ?

Not that it invaded Iraq to achieve this outcome, it was purely a fortunate by-product?

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jan 28th, 2013 at 11:12am
The End Of An Era

The economy as we know it is facing a lethal confluence of four critical factors – the fall-out from the biggest debt bubble in history; a disastrous experiment with globalisation; the massaging of data to the point where economic trends are obscured; and, most important of all, the approach of an energy-returns cliff-edge.

Through technology, through culture and through economic and political change, society is more short-term in nature now than at any time in recorded history. Financial market participants can carry out transactions in milliseconds. With 24-hour news coverage, the media focus has shifted inexorably from the analytical to the immediate. The basis of politicians’ calculations has shortened to the point where it can seem that all that matters is the next sound-bite, the next headline and the next snapshot of public opinion. The corporate focus has moved all too often from strategic planning to immediate profitability as represented by the next quarter’s earnings.

This report explains that this acceleration towards ever-greater immediacy has blinded society to a series of fundamental economic trends which, if not anticipated and tackled well in advance, could have devastating effects.

The growth dynamo winds down
One of the problems with economics is that its practitioners preach a concentration on money, whereas money is the language rather than the substance of the real economy. Ultimately, the economy is – and always has been – a surplus energy equation, governed by the laws of thermodynamics, not those of the market.

Society and the economy began when agriculture created an energy surplus which, though tiny by later standards, liberated part of the population to engage in non-subsistence activities.

A vastly larger liberation of surplus energy occurred with the discovery of the heat engine, meaning that the energy delivered by human labour could be leveraged massively by exogenous sources of energy such as coal, oil and natural gas. A single US gallon of gasoline delivers work equivalent to between 360 and 490 hours of strenuous human labour, labour which would cost perhaps $6,500 if it were paid for at prevailing rates.


Energy does far more than provide us with transport and warmth. In modern societies, manufacturing, services, minerals, food and even water are functions of the availability of energy. The critical equation here is not the absolute quantity of energy available but, rather, the difference between energy extracted and energy consumed in the extraction process. This is measured by the mathematical equation EROEI (energy return on energy invested).

For much of the period since the Industrial Revolution, EROEIs have been extremely high. The oil fields discovered in the 1930s, for example, provided at least 100 units of extracted energy for every unit consumed in extraction (an EROEI of 100:1). For some decades now, though, global average EROEIs have been falling, as energy discoveries have become both smaller and more difficult (meaning energy-costly) to extract.


The killer factor is the non-linear nature of EROEIs. As fig. 1.5 shows, the effects of a fall-off in EROEI from, say, 80:1 to 20:1 do not seem particularly disruptive but, once returns ratios have fallen below about 15:1, there is a dramatic, ‘cliff-edge’ slump in surplus energy, combined with a sharp escalation in its cost.

Research suggests that the global average EROEI, having fallen from about 40:1 in 1990 to 17:1 in 2010, may decline to just 11:1 by 2020, at which point energy will be about 50% more expensive, in real terms, than it is today, a metric which will carry through directly into the cost of almost everything else – including food.

Crisis, culpability and consequences
If the analysis set out in this report is right, we are nearing the end of a period of more than 250 years in which growth has been ‘the assumed normal’.
That comfortable assumption is now in the process of being over-turned.

The views set out here must provoke a host of questions. For a start, if we really are nearing a cliff-edge economic crisis, why isn’t this visible already? Second, who is to blame for this? Third, how bad could it get? Last, but surely most important, can anything be done about it?

Where visibility is concerned, our belief is that, if the economy does tip over in the coming few years, retrospect – which always enjoys the 20-20 vision of hindsight – will say that the signs of the impending crash were visible well before 2013.





Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jan 28th, 2013 at 11:37am
The End Of An Era (Cont)

For a start, anyone who believed that a globalisation model (in which the West unloaded production but expected to consume as much, or even more, than ever) was sustainable was surely guilty of wilful blindness.

Even to those who were happy to swallow the nonsense of perpetually expanding indebtedness, the sheer scale of debt – and, relevantly in this context, of quasi-debt commitments as well – surely should have sounded  warning bells. In addition to formal debt, governments have entered into pension and welfare commitments which are only affordable if truly heroic assumptions are made about future prosperity.

At the same time, there is no real evidence that the economy is recovering from what is already a more prolonged slump than the Great Depression of the 1930s. We are now more than four years on from the banking crisis and, under anything approaching normal conditions, there should have been a return to economic expansion by now. Governments have tried almost everything, from prolonged near-zero interest rates and stimulus expenditures to the creation of money on a gigantic scale. These tools have worked in the past, and the fact that, this time, they manifestly are not working should tell us that something profoundly different is going on.

Governments have been ejected by their electorates, but their replacements have tended to look very similar indeed to their predecessors. The real reason for the seeming lack of retribution is that culpability is far too dispersed across society as a whole.

Beyond visibility and culpability, the two big questions which need to be addressed are ‘how bad can it get?’ and ‘is there anything that we can do about it?’

Of these, the first question hardly needs an answer, since the implications seem self-evident – economies will lurch into hyper-inflation in a forlorn attempt to escape from debt, whilst social strains will increase as the vice of resource (including food) shortages tightens. In terms of solutions, the first imperative is surely a cultural change away from instant gratification, a change which, if it is not adopted willingly, will be enforced upon society anyway by the reversal of economic growth.

The magic bullet, of course, would be the discovery of a new source of energy which can reverse the winding-down of the critical energy returns equation. Some pin their faith in nuclear fusion (along lines being pioneered by ITER) but this, even if it works, lies decades in the future – that is, long after the global EROEI has fallen below levels which will support society as we know it.

Solutions such as biofuels and shales are rendered non-workable by their intrinsically-low EROEIs.

Likewise, expecting a technological solution to occur would be extremely unwise, because technology uses energy – it does not create it. To expect technology to provide an answer would be equivalent to locking the finest scientific minds in a bankvault, providing them with enormous computing power and vast amounts of money, and expecting them to create a ham sandwich.

In the absence of such a breakthrough, really promising energy sources (such as concentrated solar power) need to be pursued together, above all, with social, political and cultural adaptation to “life after growth”.

Link -
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-01-26/end-era
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There are other issues raised in the article, which I reccomend, as it raises the level of information available, from which informed decisions may then be made.

However, as usual, the article (IMO) does not raise all the relevant issues, including several major ones, such as -
1) Demographics (The Baby Boomer  Boom/Bust)
2) Climate Change.

That said, this article does go toward addressing the other great Economic driver of Energy & some of the relevant issues involved, particularly that of the Declining levels of EROEI & the impacts that will flow from that Decline!


Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by iceyone on Jan 30th, 2013 at 1:10pm
Aren't companies now in sourcing (getting jobs back from overseas!).

Globalisation was a good theory, and while it has made companies rich, hasn't really made the standard of living better for anyone.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jan 30th, 2013 at 5:49pm

Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Jan 30th, 2013 at 1:10pm:
Aren't companies now in sourcing (getting jobs back from overseas!).

Globalisation was a good theory, and while it has made companies rich, hasn't really made the standard of living better for anyone.


That's news to me!

And, I suspect it would also be news to the call centres, in India, the Philippines & all the other "cheap labour" destinations.


I would suggest, it hasn't yet fully caught up with us, here in OZ, BUT places like the US, UK & others in Europe are already experiencing that reality!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Feb 25th, 2013 at 1:46pm
SHALE AND WALL STREET:
WAS THE DECLINE IN NATURAL GAS
PRICES ORCHESTRATED?


In 2011, shale mergers and acquisitions (M&A) accounted for $46.5B in deals and became one of the largest profit centers for some Wall Street investment banks. This anomaly bears scrutiny since shale wells were considerably underperforming in dollar terms during this time.

As prices plunged, Wall Street be gan executing deals to spin assets of troubled shale companies off to larger players in the industry. Such deals deteriorated only months later, resulting in massive write-downs in shale assets.

As documented in this report, emerging independent information on shale plays in the U.S. confirms the following:

Wall Street promoted the shale gas drilling frenzy, which resulted in prices lower than the cost of production and thereby profited [enormously] from mergers & acquisitions and other transactional fees.

U.S. shale gas and shale oil reserves have been overestimated by a minimum of 100% and by as much as 400-500% by operators a ccording to actual well production data filed in various states.

Shale oil wells are following the same steep decline rates and poor recovery efficiency observed in shale gas wells.

The price of natural gas has been driven down largely due to severe overproduction in meeting financial analysts’ targets of production growth for share appreciation coupled and exacerbated by imprudent leverage and thus a concomitant need to produce to meet debt service.

Due to extreme levels of debt, stated proved undeveloped reserves (PUDs) may not have been in compliance with SEC rules at some shale companies because of the threat of collateral default for those operators.

Industry is demonstrating reticence to engage in further shale investment, abandoning pipeline projects, IPOs and join t venture projects in spite of public rhetoric proclaiming shales to be a panacea for U.S. energy policy.

Exportation is being pursued for the
differential between the domestic and international prices in an effort to shore up ailing balance sheets invested in shale assets.

It is imperative that shale be examined thoroughly and independently to assess the true value of shale assets, particularly since policy on both the state and national level is being implemented based on production projections that are overtly optimistic (and thereby unrealistic) and wells that are significantly underperforming original projections.

Unconventional oil and gas from shales has been claimed to be a game changer, revolutionary, “a gift and national treasure”. Resource estimates for the U.S. have been giddily referred to as larger than “two Saudi Arabias” by Chesapeake Energy CEO Aubrey McClendon. It has even been said that shale oil and gas will provide energy independence for the U.S. While such statements are expected from an industry which stands to gain monetarily, a careful, thorough and independent examination of shale production data and company filings demonstrate that shale promises have been vastly overstated, leading to troubling prognostications for the shale industry as a whole and for those regions exploited or planning to be exploited for this resource.

Shale development is not about long-term economic promise for a region. Such economic promise has failed to materialize beyond the first few years of a shale play's life in any region of the U.S. today that has relative shale maturity.

Shale development is not about the long-term financial viability of shale wells. The wells have not performed up to expectations. Well decline curves are precipitously steep in shale gas and even steeper in shale oil based on historical production data filed by the operators in various states.

Shale development is not about vast reserves or “100 years of gas.” A recently published report reviewing production data of over 60,000 shale gas and oil wells observes that U.S. shale gas has been on a plateau since December 2011, and that 80 percent of shale gas production comes from five plays, several of which are in decline. Further, according to a recent report by the Oil and Gas Journal, and industry publication, it is confirmed that the recovery efficiencies of shale plays are truly dismal.

The energy context
For the past 100 years fossil fuels have held the primary position as the drivers of the U.S. and western economies. Nevertheless, fossil fuels are finite. New deposits of hydrocarbons have proven harder and harder to replace. 

Further, there are various grades and types of hydrocarbons, some much more efficient as fuels than others. Additionally, some hydrocarbons simply require such an expenditure of energy to extract and produce that their use becomes questionable. This measure is referred to EROI (energy returned on investment) and is often seen as a ratio. For
instance, it is estimated that in the early days of the U.S. oil industry, the EROI for oil was 100:1 (that is, 100 units of energy recovered for every one unit of energy invested) but this has since declined to an EROI of under 20:1.
Because unconventional hydrocarbons like tar sands and shales are by definition more challenging (i.e., more energy-intensive) to produce, they generally have very low EROIs:  ikely well under 5:1.

Link -
http://shalebubble.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/SWS-report-FINAL.pdf
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In short, this field is high on HOPIUM!


Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Mar 30th, 2013 at 10:15pm
The Reward for Being Right About Peak Oil: Scorn Heaped With Derision

Right before the end of the millennium, the clues started piling up. The world had been scoured many times over in the quest for the ultimate bounty, gushers of light sweet crude. Discoveries of new oil had peaked in the decade of the 1960s and had been falling ever since. Supergiants, the oilman's term for those wells capable of pushing out a million or more barrels a day, were no longer being found, and the ones in extraction were starting to accelerate in their decline, from Prudhoe Bay to Ghawar Field to Cantarell Field.
Sure, there was other "oil" out there, but it was trapped in very deep water, or stuck in tight rock formations that had to be fractured at great expense for the oil to come out. These plays could be worked, but only if the price of oil stayed very high, and even then the flow rates would never match those of the supergiants and giants that the world depended on for its tens of millions of barrels required each day for the economy to keep humming.

So former oil geologists like Colin Campbell and Ken Deffeyes started ringing the alarm bell. "Hey!" they shouted at the top of their lungs, "we can't maintain this flow of oil forever! Even if we use all the non-conventional sources like tar sands, Arctic oil, etc the amount is going to get less and less over the course of this century. And those other kinds of oil are a lot dirtier and carbon-intensive than the oil we've been using!"

What did they predict? And how close were they to being right? Let's take a quick look, lest we get overwhelmed with the cornucopian hyperbole that bombards us every day.

The price of oil will rise dramatically, possibly by an order of magnitude.

Check. Got that one right. Oil went from $10/barrel in 1999 to about $100/barrel today.
Suddenly that made all that hard-to-extract oil that we'd known about for decades in places like Alberta and North Dakota look attractive.

Extraction will plateau for a decade or so as conventional oil starts to dwindle and we throw everything we can at unconventional sources like tar sands, tight oil, ultra deep water, etc.

Check. In 2004, production reached 73 million barrels per day (mbpd). Annual average expenditures on oil exploration doubled from 2004 to $600 billion annually in 2012. For doubling our cumulative effort at oil extraction, we've managed to raise production to 75 mbpd, as the oil price has tripled since 2004.
It seems logical to assume that an additional two million barrels a day global increase will require another doubling of expenditures and another tripling of prices, which would mean $10/gallon gas here in the U.S. China increases its daily oil consumption by two mbpd about every four years.

The economy will contract and enter a period of stagnated growth. More vulnerable economies will crash profoundly.

Check. U.S. employment has yet to reach its 2008 levels. Economies like Greece and Spain have collapsed by as much as 25 percent.

Oil exports will begin to fall, especially as the price rises and extracting nations becoming richer, because this means they will be wealthier and consume more of their own oil.

Check. Worldwide oil exports peaked in 2006 at 45.6 mpbd and have declined by over 2 mbpd since. Saudi Arabia has the highest growth rate in oil use. Consumption has risen by one mbpd to almost 3 mbpd over the last decade, and exports have fallen by over one mbpd.
If current trends worldwide continue, available oil exports could reach zero by around 2032.
Currently the U.S. extracts about seven million of the 18 million barrels of oil we use, so assuming we could hold extraction at that level, we would need to cut oil use by two-thirds in twenty years.




Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by Yadda on Mar 30th, 2013 at 10:27pm
perceptions,

As teh price of oil increases [due to an anticipated shortage], won't other means of developing liquid energy sources, replace oil, in an open market ?

Oil replacement [as a liquid energy source] from algae, and such ?

Aren't these types of algae plants [producing liquid fuels] being developed around the world, right now ?


Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Mar 30th, 2013 at 10:27pm
The Reward for Being Right About Peak Oil: Scorn Heaped With Derision (Cont)

New resources will be more expensive and carbon-intensive.

Check. The previous assumption of maintaining oil extraction in the U.S. is very unlikely to hold true. Deep water and tight oil (like what comes from the Bakken and Eagle Ford) have extremely high depletion rates. Deep water wells deplete about 10-20 percent a year. Tight oil depletes at about 40 percent annually the first few years. Think about that latter number, where most of our new oil extraction is coming from. What if you had a part-time job but within two years you would only be making about a quarter of your current income. Probably need a new part time job, right? But that one does the same thing. Before you know it, you need 40,000 part time jobs. But even that doesn't help, because they're all still depleting at 40 percent. Give a thought to how much you would have to work to maintain your original income after five years, then ten years, then twenty years... How many of you out there are thinking you'll eventually end up rich? Well, if you're an economist or work for an oil lobby like CERA or API, you're totally convinced you've hit the jackpot. But don't let their malarkey and access to primary media outlets jam up your ears and eyes so bad you can't see the truth.

Oil extraction worldwide is peaking right now, and the sources of oil we're turning to are much more carbon-intensive than the ones we're leaving, meaning even if we use the same amount of oil and gas, we're still increasing our rate of adding greenhouse gas poisons to our atmosphere. You know, our atmosphere -- that invisible thing all around us that keeps us and everything else on our planet alive? Friends, readers, don't believe the hype. The age of oil is coming to an end, but this can be a very good thing if we realize it and make forward-looking choices to leave this dark cloud of exhaust behind us. The sooner we make a commitment to transition our economy to renewable energy, the better off we'll be in every respect.

Link -
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stephen-hren/the-reward-for-being_b_2959628.html
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The final note here, is that there are currently no viable energy alternatives available.

At least, not available in the time framed needed, nor on the scale required for continued & unabated Global Economic Growth & perhaps not available at all, at any Price?

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Mar 30th, 2013 at 10:29pm

Yadda wrote on Mar 30th, 2013 at 10:27pm:
perceptions,

As teh price of oil increases [due to an anticipated shortage], won't other means of developing liquid energy sources, replace oil, in an open market ?

Oil replacement [as a liquid energy source] from algae, and such ?

Aren't these types of algae plants [producing liquid fuels] being developed around the world, right now ?


I think my comment at the following post may cover your query.
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1276908003/317#317

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Apr 7th, 2013 at 10:18pm
Trends In The Cost Of Energy

Energy is the largest component of the world's Gross Domestic Product. It is a measure of our state of civilization. Its availability determines our standard of living, but also threatens to undermine it: the excessive use of stored energy through burning fossil fuels is a cause of Climate Change. Now, the depletion of these fuels will force us to reinvent how we can continue to advance our civilization in a sustainable manner.

The phenomenon of climate change was identified first in the nineteenth century. By the end of the twentieth century, a consensus evolved in the scientific community as well as among progressive political establishments about the need to limit global warming, but a global response has proved elusive until now.

Over the last half century a number of significant changes to our energy outlook have emerged. In 1949 M. King Hubbert, an Exxon engineer, predicted that oil production in the US would peak in 1971.

This prediction was correct within days. The Global Hubbert's peak (GHP) has been followed by a decline in fossil fuel reserves.

Comparison of Various Technologies
The technologies we will compare in this article are nuclear, coal, oil, and natural gas; and solar PV and wind among the renewable options.

Nuclear Power
The politically most sensitive energy source is nuclear. In recent years, bowing to public wishes, Germany has decided to shut down all nuclear facilities. Two years after the Fukushima accident, Japan is still uncertain about restarting its reactors. Chernobyl and Three Mile Island all are within recent memory.

Nuclear power does not emit any carbon containing gases, so it does not contribute to climate change. Operating in principle for 24 hours, it is a suitable power source for clean base load electricity. Sources of concern are accidents and the unresolved issues of disposal of spent fuel and decommissioning nuclear power stations at the end of their life

When the first nuclear reactors were built, proponents declared that nuclear power would be too cheap to meter. It did not turn out that way. Today, it is difficult to understand the true cost of nuclear power. A first reference represents a most optimistic view of nuclear power. This paper created enough interest that there has been an ongoing discussion since it was first published on April 2 2010. The conclusion of the paper is that the cost of nuclear power is under $0.04 per kWh. The value of nuclear power shown on Figure (3) before 2000 shows this number. This analysis does not adequately take into account the concerns expressed above about nuclear power.

A further reference comes from the experience of the most active player in the nuclear power industry, Electricite de France (EDF). EDF has built and operates the largest number of nuclear power stations in the world. In the reference quoted they announce more than a factor of three cost overruns on the Flamanville plant. The plant now is planning to start operation in 2016 and forecasts $0.12/kWh electricity cost.

It is difficult to arrive at a reliable cost of nuclear electricity. The best numbers I can extract is an average price of $0.10/kWh for 2010, and $0.12/kWh for 2020. The general conclusion of the experts is that nuclear power will not represent more than the present fraction in the electricity mix (presently at below 20% in the US).

Fossil Fuels

Figure 1. Timeline of the usage of fossil fuels

Figure 1) is a dramatic representation of the time line of the history of the use of fossil fuels.

The peak of the bell shaped curve, representing Huppert's peak, falls close to the year 2000. The half width of the blip is 100 to 200 years, making it imperative that we find an alternate energy source to fossil fuels in our children's lifetime.

Climate Change is principally caused by increased CO2 and other greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, due to man made and all other effects. Increased CO2 leads to an increase in the earth temperature.

Coal
Coal is the most abundant stored fossil energy on earth. The estimated extractable reserves are about 1 Trillion tons. There is enough coal to provide power to the globe for more than a century. The US has one of the largest reserves in the world. The problem however is that coal is also largest green house polluter of all the energy sources (Table 1). In 2012 coal was the fuel for 40% of the world's electricity and 26% of the global primary energy. The use of coal for electricity generation in the US is being replaced by natural gas. In 2012, for the first time the generation of electricity by natural gas was equal to the electricity generated by coal.

At a price of $30 per ton, the cost of electricity generated by coal is about $0.03 per kWh. The price of coal today can reach $150 per ton. At these prices the cost of natural gas generated electricity becomes competitive with that generated by coal. These cost calculations do not include the cost of externalized environmental and health costs, which amount to about $0.14 per kWh for coal.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by miketrees on Apr 7th, 2013 at 10:26pm
Large scale grain growing in Australia depends on big fuel inputs.
No way will we be able to grow grain in the west if fuel goes up much more.
Its a bit academic anyway because it does not rain anymore anyway.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Apr 7th, 2013 at 10:33pm
Trends In The Cost Of Energy (Cont)

Oil
Ever since the age of the automobile, fossil fuels (primarily oil) have been the world's preferred energy source. Returning to Figure 1), and Hubbert's Peak, the bell shaped curve starting around the year 1900 indicates the use of fossil fuels.

If we burn all the stored fossil fuels, we would end up with an atmosphere primarily of CO2, instead of oxygen. That would be the ultimate climate change.

The world's crude oil reserves at the end of 2012 are about 1,600 billion barrels. The consumption for the same year was reported at 32 billion barrels (10e13kg). With these numbers the existing oil reserves would last 50 years. Of course both the size of reserves and consumption levels are moving targets. Whatever the supply and consumptions numbers are, available oil reserves are finite and we are beyond Hubbert's peak. The remaining oil should be kept for industrial and consumer applications, and not burned to produce heat and pollution.

Natural Gas
Natural gas is one of the forms of recoverable stored hydrocarbons. Total natural gas reserves are estimated to be 10e15kg. Natural gas has received special attention in the last decades, since the size of US reserves has become apparent. Potentially, these reserves can make the US energy independent.

Natural gas, due to its molecular makeup produces less CO2 than other fossil fuels. However, there are significant environmental consequences associated with the hydrofracturing (fracking) process to extract the newly identified natural gas reserves. The water that is used in fracking and the subsequent disposition of that water has to be taken into account in the evaluation of how clean natural gas is.

Natural gas today can be cost competitive with coal to produce electricity. But the pricing of these two fuels is very volatile. In 2012 the cost of natural gas reached parity with coal for the production of electricity, but in February 2013 a recent report of the IEA forecasts coal to be the dominant fuel again for electricity at least until 2015.

The natural gas industry has attracted so much capital that at least for the time being the price of natural gas will remain competitive.

Wind
Among the different sources of renewable electricity generation, wind was the first to reach large-scale cost effective penetration of the energy industry. Cumulative electricity generation from wind reached 300 GW by 2011. Wind capacity is large enough so that the transmission capacity of the existing grid is limiting the growth of wind generation.

The intermittent nature of wind makes it even less predictable then solar. A suitable energy storage medium will be necessary to enhance the value of electricity generated from wind (and solar).

Wind energy generation has already found its proven role in the electricity mix. As a viable renewable energy, its future competitiveness in relation to fossil fuels will only improve.

Solar PV (Photovoltaic)

The percentage of PV in the energy mix very much depends on the availability of suitable storage. Presently, there is a strong focus on the development of battery technologies. Batteries are not likely to reach the energy densities available in fossil fuels. However the availability of very low cost PV electricity opens up a different approach to energy storage. Consider the potential use of aluminum as a fuel. A mixture of Al and water can produce Hydrogen at room temperature. The main problem is that the amount of Hydrogen generated is still below the weight or volume capacity of fossil fuels. The other big problem is that the cost of hydrogen generated this way still higher than by other means. However if the cost of PV electricity can be brought down to $0.01/kWh, Hydrogen from Al generation becomes cost competitive with fossil fuels.

Conclusion
The energy industry is in transition. From the basket of energy technologies available today the industry will change gradually to clean renewable energy. The transition period will take several decades, depending the positioning of the capital and the timing and amount of investment. Ultimately the dominant element in the energy mix is expected to be solar PV.

In solar PV there will be a refocus on thin film based PV, with a further increase of efficiency to the 50% range and a decrease in module cost to under $0.20/watt and $0.01/kWh. This is a realistic goal by the middle of the century. Such low electricity costs will also bring novel solutions to energy storage. Investors in the energy industry will be well served to note this change in direction!

Link -
http://seekingalpha.com/article/1324411-trends-in-the-cost-of-energy?source=email_macro_view&ifp=0
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In my opinion, we are already short on time, as the transition period is at least several decades and we don't have that sort of time left, to transition in an orderly manner! 

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Apr 7th, 2013 at 10:41pm

miketrees wrote on Apr 7th, 2013 at 10:26pm:
Large scale grain growing in Australia depends on big fuel inputs.
No way will we be able to grow grain in the west if fuel goes up much more.
Its a bit academic anyway because it does not rain anymore anyway.


Actually, Agriculture everywhere, depends on big inputs from Fossil Fuels, BUT it also relies on those Fossil Fuels for much more than just Energy.

Well, the rain is certainly in Decline & has been since around 1970.

That said, Perth just had its wettest March, since 1971, BUT the future expectations certainly don't seem optimistic!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by bogarde73 on Jan 10th, 2014 at 2:27pm
Some comments drawn from various sources . . .
The peak oil theory has gone out the window for various reasons.

Updated view, with USA declaring tar sands open, now CSG and more recently shale oil and gas, the peak oil equation well beyond 2025 and if asked 2050 and beyond.

Shale gas and oil the reason. Not cheap, not energy cheap either, so price of oil will remain big as developing these deposits costly, likely base is $65- and as it approaches and if it ever goes through there, lower as it did in GFC 1, the traditional oil fields over time less and less and more of the new types of hydrocarbon energy takes over and drilling deep onshore, fracking and then refineries for Kerogen oil which is what oil shale produces not cheap.

But the addition of likely 20,000- trillion shale gas deposits and 200 billion barrels of shale oil add another lease of life to the peak oil timeline.

As far as Australia is concerned, with the 2020-30 expansions Australia will see in this field and with 1,000 trillion cubic feet of gas we will be a very large LNG exporter for many many years.


Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jan 11th, 2014 at 11:14am

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 10th, 2014 at 2:27pm:
Some comments drawn from various sources . . .
The peak oil theory has gone out the window for various reasons.

Updated view, with USA declaring tar sands open, now CSG and more recently shale oil and gas, the peak oil equation well beyond 2025 and if asked 2050 and beyond.

Shale gas and oil the reason. Not cheap, not energy cheap either, so price of oil will remain big as developing these deposits costly, likely base is $65- and as it approaches and if it ever goes through there, lower as it did in GFC 1, the traditional oil fields over time less and less and more of the new types of hydrocarbon energy takes over and drilling deep onshore, fracking and then refineries for Kerogen oil which is what oil shale produces not cheap.

But the addition of likely 20,000- trillion shale gas deposits and 200 billion barrels of shale oil add another lease of life to the peak oil timeline.

As far as Australia is concerned, with the 2020-30 expansions Australia will see in this field and with 1,000 trillion cubic feet of gas we will be a very large LNG exporter for many many years.


Not Really!

There are a few countries where Oil Production has increased recently, primarily the USA & a few of the old OPEC countries, BUT the US has only done so on a short term basis, at a much higher immediate Production cost and the longer term environmental costs are likely to be huge.

Also, the Tar Sands Production is still pretty much based in Canada, with very little coming out of the US.

And, the total size of the Shale capacity is greatly overstated.

Finally, why should Australia export its Gas, when our total liquids Production, including Natural Gas Plant Liquids has Decline some 40% since 2000?

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jan 11th, 2014 at 1:53pm
What If Total U.S. Oil Production Peaks In 2016?

The US Energy Information Administration ("EIA") recently released a report predicting total US oil production will peak around 2016, level off for a few years, and in 2020 begin a gradual decline toward 6 million bpd. Notice that lower-48 onshore, indicative of shale oil production, will level off in the 2016-2022 time frame, and then begin a decline to 4 million bpd by 2040. This will likely come as a surprise to many who have been conditioned by the media to believe the US shale revolution will lead us to energy independence ad-infinitum.

http://seekingalpha.com/article/1936431-what-if-total-u-s-oil-production-peaks-in-2016?source=email_macro_view_edi_pic_4_4&ifp=0
http://www.eia.gov/forecasts/aeo/MT_liquidfuels.cfm
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When even a government "mouthpiece", like the EIA, says Peak Oil is here, then you know it is already a fact, because government bodies invariably put on a better public face than Reality would dictate! 

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by Deathridesahorse on Jan 12th, 2014 at 3:59am
Apparently, the turning point is truly recondite!  :-?

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by bogarde73 on Jan 12th, 2014 at 10:54am
The Gulf of Mexico, as well as the Mexican mainland, are coming up with oil & oil-equivalent reserves to challenge the Saudis.
Until we develop hydrogen & storeable renewables to an economically competitive level, both in term of production & distribution, we don't have anything to worry about as regards oil . . .except the price. And the price will be paid.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by Deathridesahorse on Jan 13th, 2014 at 8:07am
Limits are hear!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Feb 28th, 2014 at 10:43am
Gasoline Volume Sales, Demographics And Our Changing Culture

Gasoline prices and increases in fuel efficiency are important factors, but there are also some significant demographic and cultural dynamics in this data series.

The latest 12-month MA is 8.0% below the all-time high set in August 2005. We are fractionally above the interim low of 8.3% set in December 2012.



The next chart includes an overlay of real monthly retail gasoline prices, all grades and formulations, adjusted for inflation using the Consumer Price Index.


As we would expect, the rapid rise in gasoline prices in 2008 was accompanied by a significant drop in sales volume.

The moving average for the latest month is about 7.7% below the pre-recession level and 4.6% off the November 2010 interim high. For some historical context, the latest data point is a level first achieved over fifteen years ago, in July 1998.

Some of the shrinkage in sales can be attributed to more fuel-efficient cars. But that presumably would be minor over shorter time frames and would be offset to some extent by population growth.
However, if we look at Edmunds.com for data on the top 10 best-selling vehicles, energy efficiency doesn't seem to be a key factor, to judge from the percentage of pickup trucks and SUVs.

The next chart adjusts the 12-month MA of sales volume for population growth based on the monthly data for Civilian Non-Institutional Population over age 16 from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, via the St. Louis FRED repository. What we see here is that gasoline sales on a per-capita basis are 7.7% lower than it was at the end of the Great Recession.

The latest per-capita daily average is 20.9% below the 1989 high.



What does this analysis suggest about the state of the economy? From an official standpoint, the Great Recession ended 54 months before the most recent gasoline sales monthly data point. But if we want a simple confirmation that the economy is in recovery, gasoline sales continues to be the wrong place to look.

In addition to improvements in fuel efficiency, the decline in gasoline consumption is attributable in large part to some powerful secular changes in U.S. demographics and cultural in general:
1) We have an aging population leaving the workforce, which we clearly see in the sustained contraction in the employment-population ratio.

2) There is growing trend toward a portable workplace and the ability to work from home (I'm a typical example).
3) Social media have provided powerful alternatives to face-to-face interaction requiring transportation (Internet apps, games, the ubiquitous cell phone for talk and texting).
4) There has been a general trend in young adults to drive less (related to points two and three above). See this PDF report for details.
5) The U.S. is experiencing accelerating urban population growth, which reduces the per-capita dependence on gasoline.

As I've continued to observe, we are living in interesting times.

Link -
http://seekingalpha.com/article/2049803-gasoline-volume-sales-demographics-and-our-changing-culture?source=email_macro_view_dem_1_38&ifp=0
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I Concur, with the fact that we live in "interesting times"!

But, there would no doubt be a few other adjectives that could also be applied, such as "Dangerous".


Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on May 17th, 2014 at 11:21am
Oil Production: An Indicator Of Future Economic Growth Prospects


Summary
    Low global economic expansion since 2008 can be linked to liquid fuel production growth. Trend will most likely continue.
    Global production of liquid fuels would have declined in 2013 without the US' increase of 1.2 mb/d, mainly on the back of shale oil, the effects of which will diminish.
    Healthier growth rates may only return when current relationship between global liquid fuels growth and economic growth is broken, and growth becomes less reliant on it.


The negative surprise that the US first-quarter GDP handed us was quickly rationalized as a mainly weather related event. One thing that we can be sure of regardless of the reason why it happened is that previous 2014 forecasts for US growth have to now be revised downward somewhat. There is little hope now after a stagnant first quarter of reaching the 3% growth range forecast by various institutions for the year.

Looking at the bigger picture in order to get a better understanding of the overall context, the fact that 2014 growth will have to be revised down should not come as a great surprise. The US and global growth have constantly been revised downwards since 2007. 2013 was seen by many as the year when the economic crisis was finally put behind us and we are now looking at a few years of decent, if not outstanding growth. The IMF forecasts global growth to reach 3.7% this year, and 3.9% in 2015. That is a significant increase from 2013, when the world economy grew about 3% as well as a break with the 2008-13 period, which saw global average yearly growth under 3%.

Reasoning behind expectation of further downward revisions

According to EIA data 2013, global liquid fuels production growth was 0.6%, or just under 0.6 mb/d. If we are to exclude US liquid fuels production growth of 1.2 mb/d, the world would have been in a production decline. For 2014, it expects a global production increase of 1.4 mb/d and 1.3 mb/d in 2014 and 2015, respectively. US production is once more expected to contribute to most of the increase with year-on-year gains for this year of 1 mb/d and 0.7 mb/d next year.

Aside from the two very prominent shale oil fields, there are very few bright spots to report in America's oil production regions. Alaska is in decline, the Gulf of Mexico is stagnated, while the onshore Permian in Texas is only inching up very slowly. There is some limited increase in liquids production coming from predominantly shale gas plays such as the Marcellus, but at the moment there is no field ready to take the place of Bakken and Eagle Ford as the main engines of production growth.

Aside from potential for increase coming from resolution of conflicts in places such as Libya or improving relations with Iran, I see very little potential for global growth in production.
In fact, countries such as Saudi Arabia are likely to favor lower production, not so much because they want to keep prices high or that they are evil as many would believe, but because they want to manage their fields with care and are aware that many of their aging giant fields can potentially be damaged through overproduction for prolonged periods of time. There are also many places in decline such as Mexico, the North Sea, Azerbaijan and others.
I think a very good gauge of where global production is headed is the performance of oil and gas giant multinationals that operate all over the world where there is oil and they are allowed to participate by governments. As I pointed out in my last article, companies such as Exxon Mobil (XOM), Chevron (CVX), Shell (RDS.A) (RDS.B) and BP (BP) are all experiencing production decline.

Effect on the economy
It is very unfortunate that over the past half decade or so, the media as well as economists preferred to focus mainly on public policy as the main factor affecting economic growth instead of analyzing the underlying fundamentals. Thus, the question of why we are not witnessing a return to growth rates in the 5% range as we have seen in previous post-recession recoveries was always answered through the lens of political and ideological partisanship. These explanations have no value in terms of providing useful insight, but are extremely popular with audiences given the increased ideological polarization of our society.

Given continued tightness of liquid fuel supplies, it is possible that we will only enjoy the kind of economic growth we had in the past and desire to have again when the current relationship will be broken.

http://seekingalpha.com/article/2221763-oil-production-an-indicator-of-future-economic-growth-prospects?ifp=0
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In fact, there are also other major factors, which are also contributing to a slowing of Economic Growth.
In addition to a slowing of Oil Production, there are also Demographic & Climate Change reasons, which are affecting the Global Economy and the combined effect of the changes in these major Economic factors would strongly suggest that the current Economic Growth model is unlikely to return.

Put bluntly, the Economic Growth Fairy is now dying!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Oct 10th, 2014 at 11:29am
On a US forum, this morning, a New Zealander posted the following chart & said -
Remember that old joke about Peak Oil.



My answer/retort to that, was as follows -
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Of course, there is no such thing as Peak Oil?

That's why the Price of Oil Peaked at US$145 in July 2008, after being around US$10 a barrel, in 1999, THAT'S SIMPLY THE STANDARD WAY THAT "DEMAND/SUPPLY" ECONOMICS WORKS RIGHT??

All Products go up by nearly 1500%, in a 9 year timeline, when it's expected there will be ample Supply, Right???

I suggest, you all watch what happens, AS THE GLOBAL ECONOMY AGAIN HEADS DOWN OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS AND DEMAND ALSO GOES DOWN , AS WILL THE PRICE OF OIL AND PRODUCTION WILL ALSO DECLINE, PARTIALLY BECAUSE THE NEWER LINES OF PRODUCTION WILL SIMPLY NOT BE VIABLE, AT THOSE LOWER PRICES!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by The Stunt-free Horse on Oct 13th, 2014 at 11:01pm

perceptions_now wrote on Oct 10th, 2014 at 11:29am:
On a US forum, this morning, a New Zealander posted the following chart & said -
Remember that old joke about Peak Oil.



My answer/retort to that, was as follows -
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Of course, there is no such thing as Peak Oil?

That's why the Price of Oil Peaked at US$145 in July 2008, after being around US$10 a barrel, in 1999, THAT'S SIMPLY THE STANDARD WAY THAT "DEMAND/SUPPLY" ECONOMICS WORKS RIGHT??

All Products go up by nearly 1500%, in a 9 year timeline, when it's expected there will be ample Supply, Right???

I suggest, you all watch what happens, AS THE GLOBAL ECONOMY AGAIN HEADS DOWN OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS AND DEMAND ALSO GOES DOWN , AS WILL THE PRICE OF OIL AND PRODUCTION WILL ALSO DECLINE, PARTIALLY BECAUSE THE NEWER LINES OF PRODUCTION WILL SIMPLY NOT BE VIABLE, AT THOSE LOWER PRICES!

Is there any information on how accessible these proved reserves are?  :o :o :o

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Oct 16th, 2014 at 2:12pm
Could The 'Shale Oil Miracle' Be Just A Pipe Dream?

Summary

1) Technological developments such as directional drilling and hydraulic fracturing have allowed the United States to significantly increase its production of crude oil from various tight oil plays.
2) This production suffers from numerous problems including very high costs and steep decline rates.
3) Few companies operating in these formations have made any money and nearly all are depending on friendly capital markets to survive.
4) Costs and decline rates appear to be getting worse, making it more difficult for these firms.
5) EIA projections show that it is unlikely that the United States will ever be a net exporter of oil.


For the past several years, investors and the general public have heard much about the "shale miracle," a revolution in energy production caused by horizontal drilling and fracking, technologies which resulted in huge increases in oil production from areas such as the Williston Basin and the Eagle Ford Shale. Many advocates of this shale miracle state that this revolution promises to make the United States energy independent and even turn the country into an energy exporter. Unfortunately, there are a number of problems with shale oil production that could result in the shale miracle being more of a pipe dream than a truly realistic scenario.

There are several shale deposits in the United States, which are believed to contain very high amounts of oil. The most famous of these are the Bakken Shale formation in Montana and North Dakota and the Eagle Ford shale formation in South Texas.

The oil that is found in these formations is much more difficult to extract than the oil found in more conventional deposits such as those found in Saudi Arabia or the Permian Basin. This is due to the geological characteristics of the regions. In tight oil deposits such as the Bakken, oil is encased in low permeability rocks. In order to extract the oil, the rocks must be broken apart. This is a technique known as hydraulic fracturing. In addition, accessing this oil typically requires the use of directional drilling techniques, which is a blanket term used to describe drilling an oil well in any direction other than vertically.

As might be expected, the difficulty of accessing this oil results in these wells being significantly more expensive to drill than a more conventional oil well.

According to Morgan Stanley Equity research and the International Energy Agency, it costs $65 on average to produce one barrel of oil from North America's shale plays like the Bakken. This estimate is supported by other sources. This makes producing oil in these areas more expensive than producing anywhere else in the world except from tar sands and in the Arctic.


This necessitates relatively high oil prices, as that is the only way that the companies that operate in the Bakken can earn a profit.

Another problem with a tight oil well (as both the Bakken and the Eagle Ford are both tight oil plays and not oil shale) is that it has a very rapid decline rate. An oil well can only produce oil at a certain level for so long before this production level begins to decline. The decline rate is how much the well's production has fallen from its peak, expressed as a percentage. The decline rate of a directional oil shale well averages 69% in the first year and 94% in the second. Thus, by the end of the first year, a given shale oil well will only produce an average of 31% of what it did when it was first drilled. By the end of the second year, the well is only producing an average of 6% of what it did when it was first drilled.

Due to this, operators in the region are essentially forced to continuously drill new wells in order to maintain production, let alone expand it. This is a very capital-intensive process.
Another sign that the tight oil miracle may not be as great as advertised is the fact that several oil majors have been terminating their operations in the Bakken and Eagle Ford Shale and selling off their assets in the regions.
In fact, debt ratings service Standard and Poor's states that 75 out of the 97 American exploration and production companies that it rates are below investment grade.
Now that oil prices have begun to fall and are expected to decline further, these drilling operations will become even more unprofitable.


http://seekingalpha.com/article/2560725-could-the-shale-oil-miracle-be-just-a-pipe-dream?ifp=0
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IF many of these "new Oil" Producers couldn't make money before, with Oil in the $90-100 plus range, then it would be expected that many will start to fail, as the WTi Oil Price is now in the low $80's and likely to head further South!

If/When these new producers start to fail, there are considerable Global ramifications!







Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Oct 16th, 2014 at 10:26pm
With Wti Oil futures now sitting at $78.84 -
http://quotes.post1.org/historical-crude-oil-price-chart/

There is a considerable question mark over the future of much of the "new oil" market, with much of that section of the market quickly becoming unprofitable!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Oct 17th, 2014 at 3:27pm
Daze Of Peak Oil... Or At Least Peak Oil Production

The story of energy, particularly cheap and plentiful crude oil, has been the foundation of rapid economic global growth since WWII. The Global story of crude oil is integral to understanding the world of 2014. Crude oil matters so much because there is no readily available replacement for its energy and chemical uses and any likely eventual replacement will be at significantly higher costs.

Was 2005 the Peak for Cheap, High-Quality Oil?
Seems the world hit "peak conventional oil" or "peak high-quality, low-cost oil" about 2005 & 90%+ of all subsequent global supply increases to offset retiring low-cost, high-quality sources worldwide have been due to production gains coming from uneconomical and unsustainable US/Canadian "tight oil" and tar sands.

Peak oil is not the end of oil but instead as the name implies, the maximum output before the declines onset... it is marked by the rotation from high-quality, low-cost sources to higher expense, lower quality sources (requiring higher production costs in exploration, extraction, refining, etc.).

Breaking it down…
    '55 to '72 was the golden economic age in postwar America; the cost of energy was stable in a tight range, Debt to GDP fell from over 100% in '48 to 33% by '72.



    '72 to '80 sees the good work of the previous two decades reversed; energy prices skyrocket, US energy production begins a long fall, rising debt is masked by the Unified Budget accounting fraud, and US interest rates rise for the final prolonged period.


     No wonder the '80s and '90s were so good to the markets; Who remembers the price of oil fell consistently from 1980 until 1998 by a total of 68%, Fed's Fund Rate fell by 73%, and national debt doubled. Good times!!!


    But things turned nasty in the '00s; energy prices skyrocketed while production is moribund, interest rates bottom out at zero, and Debt to GDP returns to WWII levels.


And what would '14-'24 look like? Most likely continued declining oil production, higher energy costs, and more debt.

Oil Production Close-Up
Here's the strongest evidence of peak oil. Despite the massive price increases, the rise in global oil production since '98 has been anemic.


Global production added approximately 1% annually to production... the same amount that was added annually from '81 to '98 when energy prices fell 68%.

Or more pointedly, global production is barely able to offset the conventional production losses with new production... despite the growing demand and massive price hike which should draw all available production to the market.


The below chart tracks the rising price and production of global crude oil from 1950 til 2013. A 770% rise in price was met w/ a 780% production increase from '50-'01. However, since '01, a 290% price increase resulted in only a 15% production increase


How did US and Canada Increase Production?
Production growth in America is from "Tight Oil" while Canada is a combination of tight oil and tar sands.


How sustainable and profitable is this new "Tight Oil"?
This is not a sustainable business model, just like the same nonsense taking place in the broader stock markets as corporations buy back massive amounts of their stock to give the ILLUSION that everything is fine and BAU- Business As Usual will continue.

Not only are many of these oil and gas companies hiding the fact that their balance sheets are hemorrhaging debt, they also have a cozy situation with the Federal Government. Basically, the Fed's allowed them to defer more than half of their tax bill... and it's a lot of money. In a nutshell, the top 20 oil and gas companies still owe $16.5 billion (more than 50%) to Uncle Sam in tax revenue.


Conclusion –
It appears the world hit peak cheap, high-quality oil sometime in '05 and the fallout since has been spectacular financial chaos. Declining GDP "growth", money printing gone wild, ZIRP and NIRP activated, all since adequate supplies of newly available cheap energy failed to offset the declining conventional production. And the US / Canada low quality, high cost, unsustainable shale "miracle" signals the death throes of a global economy entirely dependent on cheap energy for growth and service of peak debt.

Shale oil and oil in general is finite and should be priced accordingly.

http://seekingalpha.com/article/2563915-daze-of-peak-oil-or-at-least-peak-oil-production?ifp=0
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Energy, Demographics, Technology & Climate have been the main Economic movers & that will continue, just differently!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Nov 5th, 2014 at 10:52am
http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/future/crude%20oil%20-%20electronic



WTi currently trading at US$77.19, which means large slices of Fracked US Oil & other "New Oil" is pretty much unprofitable & therefore a drop off in Supply can be expected from those New Supply sources!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Nov 13th, 2014 at 10:00pm
http://www.nasdaq.com/markets/crude-oil.aspx?timeframe=10y

Wti Oil Price currently under $77, at $76.68!

I would suggest, it is likely the Price will continue to Decline, although I don't see getting down to the GFC lows of 2009.

That said, perhaps something around the $60 mark, could be possible?

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Nov 14th, 2014 at 11:46am

perceptions_now wrote on Nov 13th, 2014 at 10:00pm:
http://www.nasdaq.com/markets/crude-oil.aspx?timeframe=10y

Wti Oil Price currently under $77, at $76.68!

I would suggest, it is likely the Price will continue to Decline, although I don't see getting down to the GFC lows of 2009.

That said, perhaps something around the $60 mark, could be possible?


A substantial Decline overnight, WTi Oil now trading at $74.21!

Besides bringing down "somewhat" the price of Petrol, do you understand why Oil Prices are in Decline & the Global Economic/Security ramifications?


Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by SpecialCharacter on Nov 19th, 2014 at 6:45pm

perceptions_now wrote on Nov 14th, 2014 at 11:46am:
Besides bringing down "somewhat" the price of Petrol, do you understand why Oil Prices are in Decline & the Global Economic/Security ramifications?


Interesting. Do you think it will increase global security?

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Nov 20th, 2014 at 1:17pm

MumboJumbo wrote on Nov 19th, 2014 at 6:45pm:

perceptions_now wrote on Nov 14th, 2014 at 11:46am:
Besides bringing down "somewhat" the price of Petrol, do you understand why Oil Prices are in Decline & the Global Economic/Security ramifications?


Interesting. Do you think it will increase global security?


Will Oil Pricing increase Global Security?
No!

Will Oil Pricing decrease Global Security?
Yes!




Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Nov 29th, 2014 at 11:49am
OPEC Refuses To Cut Production, Oil Plunges Off The Chart

The global oil glut, as some call it, is caused by the toxic mix of soaring production in the US and lackluster demand from struggling economies around the world. Since June, crude oil prices have plunged 30%. It drove oil producers in the US into bouts of hand wringing behind the scenes, though they desperately tried to maintain brittle smiles and optimistic verbiage in public.

But everyone in the industry - particularly junk bondholders that have funded the shale revolution in the US - were hoping that OPEC, and not the US, would come to its senses and cut production.

So the oil ministers from OPEC members just got through with what must have been a tempestuous five-hour meeting in Vienna, and it was not pretty for high-cost US producers: the oil production target would remain unchanged at 30 million barrels per day.

Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states were thus overriding the concerns from struggling countries such as Venezuela which, at these prices - and they're plunging as I'm writing this - will head straight into default, or get bailed out by China, at a price, whatever the case may be.

The US benchmark crude oil grade, West Texas Intermediate, plunged instantly. Even before the decision, it was down 30% from its recent high in June. As I'm writing this, it crashed through the $70-mark without even hesitating. It currently trades for $68.51. Chopped down by a full third from the peak in June.

It seems OPEC, or rather Saudi Arabia and some of the Gulf States, decided for now to live with the circumstances, to let the markets sort it out. High-cost producers around the world will spill red ink. Governments might topple. Junk bondholders and shareholders of oil-and-gas IPOs that have blindly funded the miraculous shale revolution in the US, lured by ever increasing hype, will watch more of their money go up in thick smoke.

And the bloodletting in the US fracking revolution will go on until the money finally dries up.


http://seekingalpha.com/article/2716495-opec-refuses-to-cut-production-oil-plunges-off-the-chart?ifp=0
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In fact, the WTi Oil Price has since slipped overnight again & is currently at $66.15
http://www.nasdaq.com/markets/crude-oil.aspx?timeframe=6m

It should be kept in mind that Global Demand is Down, US Production is UP, due to higher Cost of Production "New Oils", which must now be bleeding RED INK in many areas including investors & Governments, including the US Government which is providing massive "subsidisies" to these "New Oils"!

As I have said previously, it is quite conceivable that WTi Pricing may go to $60 a barrel or even lower and the Consequences of such actions would be quite substantial,on a Global scale, including the collapse of "New Oil" Production, particularly in the US & Canada, with many ramifications to follow! 


Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Nov 30th, 2014 at 2:45pm
A Few Quick Observations On Crude


Summary
There are other broad implications, both for high yield and for stocks.
I believe this crude crash, along with other commodities crashing, will lead to a negative impact on stock markets in general.


The defaults are coming
At the present levels, it doesn't matter if shale is profitable or not (as many are commenting on, lately). The fact is that every lending committee on every bank exposed to these things is going to turn the taps shut. No more credit, mostly new renewals, etc. Companies in this sector, which face the need to refinance large slugs of debt are going to be taken to the cleaners.

This also has a possible impact on the high yield markets.
There has been a tremendous explosion in investment in the crude sector in the U.S. and worldwide.

I'd expect the news of defaults to start hitting soon, as the main problem won't be a lack of profits (which should be gone, too) - the main problem will be the lack of refinancing as every finance institution will be seeking to reduce exposure at the same time.

Furthermore, since this might lead money to withdraw from the high yield sector - seeking to avoid these losses - the impact should then spread to high yield bonds outside the oil sector.

Economic and stock market implications?
It's not usual to see crude, iron ore, coal and other commodities break down so hard without there being some economic distress out there. While the most affected industries (again, crude, iron ore, coal) each have industry-specific problems, namely excess supply problems, the breakdown is still incredibly large indicating that demand must not be that healthy.

Furthermore, we should see a quick collapse in capex in the shale sector - as well as a wave of staff dismissals, etc, which will have a direct economic impact.

The breakdowns in several commodities are also surprising in that they could go to such lengths without demand kicking in and stabilizing prices. For me this has overall negative implications for the equity markets

Conclusion
At around $50, I'd actually turn a buyer even if fundamentals and speculative positioning remained unfavorable. At the present levels, however, I am just neutral with a positive long-term expectation that's not enough to commit to long positions.

I also expect a wave of defaults in the energy sector, mainly by shale drillers/explorers/producers, leading to a significant negative impact on high yield bonds in general (though the defaults will obviously be concentrated in the oil sector, I believe this will lead to high yield seeing money fleeing, thus also affecting overall prices for other bonds).

Finally, I believe this might be the final straw that breaks the speculative stock market mania.

http://seekingalpha.com/article/2717015-a-few-quick-observations-on-crude?ifp=0
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Normally, the Oil Price would reach a bottom & then rebound to higher levels.

However, THIS TIME IS DIFFERENT and it is different because Global Demographics will ensure that Demand does not bounce back this time, as it usually has, over most of the last 200 years or so!



Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Dec 5th, 2014 at 3:06pm
New U.S. oil and gas well November permits tumble nearly 40 percent

Plunging oil prices sparked a drop of almost 40 percent in new well permits issued across the United States in November, in a sudden pause in the growth of the U.S. shale oil and gas boom that started around 2007.

Data provided exclusively to Reuters on Tuesday by industry data firm Drilling Info Inc showed 4,520 new well permits were approved last month, down from 7,227 in October.

The pullback was a "very quick response" to U.S. crude prices
, which settled on Tuesday at $66.88 CLc1, said Allen Gilmer, chief executive officer of Drilling Info.

New permits, which indicate what drilling rigs will be doing 60-90 days in the future, showed steep declines for the first time this year across the top three U.S. onshore fields: the Permian Basin and Eagle Ford in Texas and North Dakota's Bakken shale.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/12/02/us-usa-oil-permits-idUSKCN0JG2C120141202
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Let's wait & see, what happens over the next few months!

That said, new wells are the life blood of the shale market, as the wells have a very short lifespan, so IF new well applications go down by 40% or more, then the shale supply will dry up, quite quickly!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Dec 5th, 2014 at 3:28pm
Oil And The Global Slowdown

The world economy is slowing down and the authorities are fretting.

Japan, Italy, and Greece are all in recession. China is slowing down according to official statistics, and even more according to whispered accounts.

Germany, France and the Netherlands are all at stall speed.

According to the BLS, the United States is doing just great at nearly 4% growth for two straight quarters, but you wouldn't know that either from the quality of the few jobs being created (which is low) or from consumer spending (also low).

The worry, as always, has nothing to do with the central banks' concern for you, your job, your children, the actual prices you pay, wealth equality, or the future, and everything to do with the simple fact that the stability of the banking system absolutely depends on a steady stream of new loans.

I guess with the binary choices of growth or collapse before them it only makes sense for the current crop of central bankers to do whatever it takes to keep that system limping along, er growing, for as long as possible.

In 2008 and 2009, net credit creation was only slightly negative, but that was enough to very nearly cause the entire system of money and banking in the developed world to collapse.

Now after the most heroic period of interest rates forced to zero (ZIRP) and below (NIRP in Europe) and the grandest experiment with money printing in global history, credit growth is somewhat back on track but not enough to ease the banker worries or to justify their actions.

So the bankers continue to pump, jawbone, and panic at every slight downturn in financial market prices because that's all they have left in the world upon which they can hang their reputations.

The actual economy, the one that lives on Main Street, never really bounced back fully, at least not compared to past recoveries. Growth, jobs and incomes all were anemic compared to prior recoveries. Investment in new capital was and remains dead in the water.

Because oil is the main engine of growth, and we know that even with 2.5 trillion dollars of additional spending over the past 9 years the world is producing roughly the same amount of oil as ever. Why? Because depletion of existing reserves is being matched by new production.

Unless investment in oil production really accelerates from here, new production will be swamped by existing declines.

In the US we know that even under the best of circumstances shale oil, the one and only engine of increased oil production growth, will peak in 2020.

But these are no longer the best of circumstances and oil is now priced well below the actual cost to get most of the shale oil out of the ground:


As we can see in that chart, the only plays that are still viable at today's prices are the core areas of the Bakken and Eagleford plays, which should not surprise anybody. Those were the ones drilled first and hardest because they are the most economic.

The fun thing about the shale companies is that they are incredibly nimble and very sensitive to prices. They can stop drilling at any time. As soon as they do, the peak of shale production will be measured within a month.

While they have not stopped drilling, the speed of the pullback is incredible and drilling permits dropped by a whopping 40% in November alone as compared to October:

The bottom line, though, is that without growth in oil economic growth is hard to achieve. I'll go further and say it's impossible to achieve, at least under the old paradigm of consumption based growth.
If oil prices do not recover and quickly, the US shale miracle will rapidly turn into a shale bust. The decline rates on these wells are ferocious.
And with the loss of that fantasy will go the sky-high valuations we currently see for stocks and bonds. After all, the operative question always should be what is the value of these stocks and bonds in a world without growth?

To me the answer is simple; a lot less.

In short, we are now past the point where the next correction could be survived injury free. It's going to hurt.

http://www.peakprosperity.com/blog/89380/oil-and-global-slowdown
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Nuff said!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Dec 9th, 2014 at 7:21am

perceptions_now wrote on Nov 14th, 2014 at 11:46am:

perceptions_now wrote on Nov 13th, 2014 at 10:00pm:
http://www.nasdaq.com/markets/crude-oil.aspx?timeframe=10y

Wti Oil Price currently under $77, at $76.68!

I would suggest, it is likely the Price will continue to Decline, although I don't see getting down to the GFC lows of 2009.

That said, perhaps something around the $60 mark, could be possible?


A substantial Decline overnight, WTi Oil now trading at $74.21!

Besides bringing down "somewhat" the price of Petrol, do you understand why Oil Prices are in Decline & the Global Economic/Security ramifications?


Wti Oil Price currently under $63, at $62.99!

http://www.nasdaq.com/markets/crude-oil.aspx?timeframe=6m

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Dec 13th, 2014 at 10:34am
Is This The End Of The 'Shale Oil Bubble?' Or The Beginning?

Perhaps the biggest conundrum of the recent oil price decline is that it arrived as a complete surprise.

Just as recently as six months ago, the probability of the January 2015 WTI contract dropping from $101.64 per barrel (June 23, 2014 closing price) to below $60 per barrel currently was viewed as essentially negligible, as implied by option prices.

While explanations abound - ranging from conspiracy theories to "permanent oil glut" scenarios - there is hardly a consensus in the market with regard to where the price of oil is going from here and what are the longer-term implications for stock valuations and prices.

Are we experiencing a paradigm shift in the global oil business (akin to what has occurred in North American natural gas) or is it just a short-lived aberration that will soon correct itself?

If the latter is true, when will investors feel a relief?

A simple answer to all the three questions may be as follows:
    The oil price paradigm is unlikely to have changed. However, the financial community may have underestimated Saudi Arabia's preparedness to take decisive steps to protect the value of its most important asset. The move not to cut production when it seemed warranted for price stability may in fact be a proactive price management policy by Saudi Arabia aimed at curtailing multi-year capacity growth that the Kingdom possibly saw as a dangerous threat to long-term oil prices.
    If such interpretation is accurate, oil price may have further downside from here and it may take at least several months for the price to recover.
    However, the ultimate outcome of this "capacity management" maneuver should be "higher for longer" oil prices and continued growth for U.S. shale oil production, possibly at the expense of mega-projects.

Is It The End Of The "Shale Stocks Bubble?" Or The Beginning?
A "hard landing" oil price scenario could mean more pain for stock investors in the short term - let's admit it, stock performance has mirrored oil price performance. I would argue, however, that a "hard landing" would help to create a foundation for a highly probable oil price recovery and strong upcycle.

http://seekingalpha.com/article/2751165-is-this-the-end-of-the-shale-oil-bubble-or-the-beginning?ifp=0
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Ho! Ho! Ho!

It must be time, for a good Christmas laugh?

That said, I will simply say, this current scenario is certainly NO surprise, it was predictable & it is a "paradigm shift"!

Declining Demand, due to Global Demographic issues, plus massive existing Debt levels, will ensure that Declining Commodity Prices remain much lower, for much longer than expected and one of the consequences will see many of the "newer" Energy sources (such as shale) start to collapse and there will be no quick bounce back!



Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Dec 18th, 2014 at 10:05pm
Expect Lower Oil Prices For Much Longer: It's All About Demographics!

Summary
Expecting a lasting rebound in oil demand? Think again.
Demographics of aging may help explain softening global oil demand.
Governments fighting 'deflation' may create more harm than good.

There may be more to the oil price war than meets the eye. Analysts who have studied the retail food industry understand the dynamics of price wars - when there's more supply than demand in a community retailers will reduce profit margins by competing on price in order to hold on to market share. Many currently believe this is what is driving down the price of oil, as OPEC refuses to reduce production hoping that non-OPEC (shale oil in the U.S. market) production will drop as prices fall below their breakeven levels.

Although global economic growth has not been stellar, there's no question that the world's largest consumer of oil, the United States, has been gathering strength for some time now. One might expect that there would be plenty of demand to absorb the growing domestic oil production and imports. However beginning in 2012 annual household expenditures began to rollover.


Is it possible that consumer behavior is changing in the U.S. and other more developed countries? After all, the wealthiest and largest consumer markets in the world (U.S., Japan, Germany) also have populations that are aging rapidly. If an older population tends to consume less fuel, perhaps the Energy Information Administration's projections of rising demand later in 2015 and beyond might prove ambitious. We may be at the cusp of an extended period of lower energy demand and prices.

In 1930 the percentage of Americans over the age of 65 was 5.4%. As you can see from the chart (U.S. Census Bureau) that percent grew to 13.0% in 2010 and based my own back-of-the-envelope estimate for 2014 (using Census Bureau numbers) is already 14.2% just a few years later.






Assuming we consumers do use less fuel as we get older, the future of oil prices might turn out to be surprising.

http://seekingalpha.com/article/2759845-expect-lower-oil-prices-for-much-longer-its-all-about-demographics?ifp=0
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Well, a longer & lower future of oil prices might be surprising to some, But not for me!
As I have said previously, THIS TIME IS DIFFERENT!





Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Dec 30th, 2014 at 11:35am

perceptions_now wrote on Nov 13th, 2014 at 10:00pm:
http://www.nasdaq.com/markets/crude-oil.aspx?timeframe=10y

Wti Oil Price currently under $77, at $76.68!

I would suggest, it is likely the Price will continue to Decline, although I don't see getting down to the GFC lows of 2009.

That said, perhaps something around the $60 mark, could be possible?


Well, we're not yet at GFC levels, which went down to around $42, But we certainly have gone thru the $60 level!

In fact, trading this morning went under $53, down to a morning low of $52.95, before rising again to trade around $53.60-$53.70.

Trading overnight had been considerably higher and at one point hit $55.59. 
http://www.investing.com/commodities/crude-oil

A point worth considering is that IF the US$index had remained at its average level of the last 5 years, which was around 80, instead of rising to its current 90, then the current price for a barrel would be $47.70!
http://www.barchart.com/interactive_charts/stocks/$DXY

Now, there are a number of possible reasons, for the current Decline in Oil Pricing and for the increase in the value of the US$index, But I would suggest Demographics & Declining Demand are the likely major reasons and if that is correct, then the lower Oil Price is likely to be here for quite a bit longer than many expect AND the ramifications much greater, than most expect.

Those ramifications are far greater on the Global Economic downside, than most expect and the "somewhat" cheaper petrol will pale into insignificance, in comparison! 

Finally, I think it is likely, there is still "some downside" on the Oil Pricing!
 

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Dec 30th, 2014 at 8:14pm
US Oil Rigs Are Shutting Down Like Crazy

The number of US oil rigs in operation keeps tumbling.

The latest Baker Hughes rig count data showed that the total number of US rigs in operation — which includes both oil and gas rigs — fell by 35 last week, to 1,840 from 1,875.

For the week ending December 12, the number of oil rigs in use fell by 27, which at that time was the single biggest weekly decline in two years. The following week, the number of rigs in use fell by 18.

The drop in oil rigs on Monday also comes alongside two discouraging pieces of news for the oil industry. The price of West Texas Intermediate oil is crashing again, touching $53 a barrel for the first time since May 2009 and declining more than 3% on the day.

Additionally, manufacturing data from the Dallas Fed showed that business leaders in Texas are growing concerned about the drop in the price of oil. As one Texas business executive said, the drop in crude oil prices was, "going to make things ugly ... quickly."

And according to Monday's report, Texas saw 16 rigs shut down last week.

In Canada, the number of rigs in use also continues to crater, which rigs in use falling by a staggering 135 last week to 256, which is below the same point a year ago.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/number-us-oil-rigs-operation-184616613.html
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The REAL ECONOMICS 101, is that if it doesn't make money, then business will get out!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jan 7th, 2015 at 3:09pm
Shale Oil Boom Uncertain In Wake Of Falling Oil Prices

No state in the U.S. has benefited more from the shale oil boom than North Dakota. Just as quickly as the transformation came, it could disappear with low oil prices.

The question the state faces now, when the price of oil has fallen 50% in just a few months, is what will happen to the industry in the future. Has the tremendous growth in production lowered prices too far for it to be profitable?

To answer those questions, producers need to know whether they will be profitable and whether they will be able to secure the financing to drill new wells. Both carry a high level of uncertainty.

Analysts have put together a wide range of estimates of "breakeven" points, the price below which producing oil is no longer profitable. For the Bakken range, the consensus is between $60 and $65, although one headline number cannot capture the complexity of assessing project viability.

With oil prices sitting near those prices now, companies are becoming wary about drilling new wells. This poses two problems.

First, consistent production in the Bakken Field requires consistently drilling new wells. Continental Resources, the largest producer in North Dakota, recently lowered its forecast of new Bakken wells in 2015 by 14%. All wells decrease in production over time, but fracking wells decrease much faster. The wealth from the region could quickly dry up without reinvestment.

Complicating the situation is OPEC, which in late November decided not to cut production.

If oil prices remain near or below the breakeven point, the impact on the North Dakota economy could be catastrophic.
Worse yet would be the impact emanating from the oil companies operating in North Dakota. These companies are heavily indebted, and ending operations would begin a wave of defaults and losses in corporate bonds.


Already the corporate bond market has seen a major retreat based on worry over this scenario. Interest rates on high-yield energy bonds rose over 500 basis points in the last six months and credit spreads, a good indicator of the risk of default, rose 33 basis points in early December. That magnitude of spread volatility has usually been reserved for Greek government debt.

http://seekingalpha.com/article/2798525-shale-oil-boom-uncertain-in-wake-of-falling-oil-prices?ifp=0
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Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Jan 7th, 2015 at 4:21pm

perceptions_now wrote on Jan 7th, 2015 at 3:09pm:
Shale Oil Boom Uncertain In Wake Of Falling Oil Prices

No state in the U.S. has benefited more from the shale oil boom than North Dakota. Just as quickly as the transformation came, it could disappear with low oil prices.

The question the state faces now, when the price of oil has fallen 50% in just a few months, is what will happen to the industry in the future. Has the tremendous growth in production lowered prices too far for it to be profitable?

To answer those questions, producers need to know whether they will be profitable and whether they will be able to secure the financing to drill new wells. Both carry a high level of uncertainty.

Analysts have put together a wide range of estimates of "breakeven" points, the price below which producing oil is no longer profitable. For the Bakken range, the consensus is between $60 and $65, although one headline number cannot capture the complexity of assessing project viability.

With oil prices sitting near those prices now, companies are becoming wary about drilling new wells. This poses two problems.

First, consistent production in the Bakken Field requires consistently drilling new wells. Continental Resources, the largest producer in North Dakota, recently lowered its forecast of new Bakken wells in 2015 by 14%. All wells decrease in production over time, but fracking wells decrease much faster. The wealth from the region could quickly dry up without reinvestment.

Complicating the situation is OPEC, which in late November decided not to cut production.

If oil prices remain near or below the breakeven point, the impact on the North Dakota economy could be catastrophic.
Worse yet would be the impact emanating from the oil companies operating in North Dakota. These companies are heavily indebted, and ending operations would begin a wave of defaults and losses in corporate bonds.


Already the corporate bond market has seen a major retreat based on worry over this scenario. Interest rates on high-yield energy bonds rose over 500 basis points in the last six months and credit spreads, a good indicator of the risk of default, rose 33 basis points in early December. That magnitude of spread volatility has usually been reserved for Greek government debt.

http://seekingalpha.com/article/2798525-shale-oil-boom-uncertain-in-wake-of-falling-oil-prices?ifp=0
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Oh & btw, at it's current Price of $47.25, IF the US$index, which has risen from 80 to nearly 92, was imposed between current pricing, then the equivalent Oil Price would now be around $41.

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Feb 5th, 2015 at 9:57pm
Oil Production Vital Statistics - February 2015

The main oil production changes from November to December are:

1) World total liquids up 150,000 bpd
2) OPEC up 80,000 bpd
3) N America up 80,000 bpd
4) Russia and FSU up 180,000 bpd
5) Europe down 70,000 bpd (compared with December 2013)
6) Asia down 60,000 bpd

The main dynamic statistic has been the plunge in US oil rig count down to 1223 rigs on January 30th from a recent high of 1609 rigs on October 10th 2014.

I anticipate that the price rout is not yet over and it will require significant falls in production to take root before a real price recovery gets underway.



Daily Brent and WTI prices from the EIA, updated to 26 January 2015. The plunge continues at a similar speed to the 2008 crash. The 2008 oil price crash began in early July. It was not until 16th September, about 10 weeks later, that the markets crashed. The recent highs in the oil price were in mid July but it was not until WTI broke through $80 at the end of October that the industry became alert to the impending price crisis.


Oil and gas rig count for the USA, data from Baker Hughes up to 30 January 2015. The recent top in operating oil rigs was 1609 rigs on 10 October 2014. On January 30th the count was down 386 to 1223 units. The oil rig count is down 259 for the month of January. News of the plummeting US rig count led to a strong rally in oil price. However, the drilling slow down has yet to show up significantly in US oil production statistics.

http://seekingalpha.com/article/2880876-oil-production-vital-statistics-february-2015?ifp=0
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It's all about Demand, Supply & Pricing!

Demand is slowing & will slow further, quite a bit slower, in fact.

Supply has been up, but mainly due to higher Priced Production coming out of the USA & Canada and that higher priced Product is going to be a difficult sell, for some time, due to slowing Demand.

So, it would seem that lower Pricing is set to stay for a while and arising from that I would suggest that those higher Price Production areas, such as Canada & the USA, are likely to become permanently non starters, as Bankers & Governments will get severely burned in the current fiasco, they will have long memories and they will not rush in again, at least not for quite some time!   

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Feb 9th, 2015 at 1:43pm
Oil Rig Count Plunges 29% From Peak, Halfway To Bottom?

In the US, oil companies have been laying off workers and cutting capital expenditures at a feverish pace. With revenues dropping as a function of the price of oil that has fallen by over half since June, preserving cash is suddenly a priority. Wall Street, after years of handing out money no questions asked, has shut off the spigot for junk-rated drillers that need new money the most.

So it's crunch time.


The number of rigs actively drilling for oil in the US, reported by Baker Hughes every Friday, is a preliminary gauge of these changes. And during the last reporting week, that rig count plunged by 83 to 1,140 rigs, after having plunged by an all-time record of 93 in the prior week. The rig count is now down 469 rigs, or 29%, from the high of 1,609 in October. And it's down 359 rigs over the six reporting weeks so far this year.

The chart below (oil rigs only, not including rigs drilling for natural gas) depicts the phenomenal fracking-for-oil boom, and what is turning out to be the worst two-month cliff-dive ever (circled in red).


During the financial crisis, the oil rig count fell 60% from peak to trough. If this oil bust plays out the same way on a percentage basis, the count would drop to 642 rigs! The bloodletting in the exploration and production sector would be enormous.

But production of oil from existing and recently completed wells continues to set records, and wells to be completed in the near future will add to it. Demand in the US has been slack. And the levels of crude oil in storage have soared to a record. Which will pressure prices further.

http://seekingalpha.com/article/2896226-oil-rig-count-plunges-29-percent-from-peak-halfway-to-bottom?ifp=0
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Fracking requires "continual renewal" of wells, to prevent Production from going into Decline, so it will be interesting so see how far this Rig Decline goes & how long it stays down there.

It is also interesting to see that Demand in the US has been slack and that the levels of crude oil in storage have soared to a record, notwithstanding that Prices have Declined greatly? That would seem to suggest that the US Economy is not as buoyant, as "some" may have been trying to convey!


Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by RandomWalk on Mar 3rd, 2015 at 4:39am
Oil seems to have bottomed in recent weeks. Any thoughts on what we can expect in the near future?

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on Mar 3rd, 2015 at 10:19pm

RandomWalk wrote on Mar 3rd, 2015 at 4:39am:
Oil seems to have bottomed in recent weeks. Any thoughts on what we can expect in the near future?


Well, that could depend a bit, on what you think "near future" means?

Let me put it this way, it is MORE likely that there will be "some" upward pressure on pricing, as the USA Production goes into Decline, over the short term (this year).

That said, at "some time", in the not too distant future, possibly towards the end of this year, "the hair that finally breaks the camels back (the camels back, being the Global Economy) may finally arrive & when that happens, DEMAND WILL GO INTO STEEP DECLINE, AS WILL OIL PRICING AGAIN!

US Production will then hit the skids BIG TIME, AS WILL PRODUCTION GLOBALLY & Pricing will eventually stabilize, but probably not before Oil hits around $20-$30 per barrel, it could then retrace to around $40-$60 a barrel, but on a lot less Production.

However, in the longer term, say 10-20 years, Production will collapse more than Demand will collapse, so Pricing is likely to eventually head North again.   

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by perceptions_now on May 6th, 2015 at 4:52pm
In The Wake Of Recent Months, Here's What To Expect From Oil

Yemen: A Country at War
When oil prices were mainly determined by the ongoing oversupply, it was fairly easy to say that they were going to go down and that the bottom was only going to deepen. But at the moment, a few extra factors have come in to play. One of them is Yemen.
The spike from $56 to $66 was also supported by shorters who panicked and covered their position upon hearing the news, as well as the fact that speculators are focusing on the numbers of active rigs that dropped again, according to data from Baker Hughes (more on this later).

46% of Tight Oil Plays Have Closed Since 2014
Following the latest reports, the rig count for shale gas plays has decreased by only half as much as for the tight oil plays. While this hasn't been good for gas prices, oil prices were massively supported by this news during Q1 2015.


Short-Term and Long-Term Thinking
So let's recap for a moment here and give the reader some practical "advice." For oil investors who think short term, occasionally taking profits on your long position might not be a bad idea, since there's a rather high chance that prices might come down again -- which gives you the possibility to re-enter at a lower price. Only a serious crisis/conflict in the Middle East or less supply from other countries could push oil prices higher for a longer period of time.

For oil investors who are thinking long term and don't care about the short term, you might want to use the dips of the cycle just to add to your positions. In the long term (10 years from now), oil will still be the raw material that we use to produce 90% of the products we use on a daily basis. There will be demand for decades to come, and its natural inventories will continue to decrease, which should drive the price of a barrel higher -- in normal circumstances.

I'm sure we all know that studies have actually shown that fracking is very bad for the environment and that the U.S. is polluting and ruining the ground (and thus their drinking water) with its fracking practices. How long can the government and the companies promoting fracking justify this specific method of energy extraction? When fracking, you're not only polluting the air, you're also polluting the ground and your water supplies. This could have serious negative long-term effects.

So if we really think about it, long-term fracking can not be sustained by the U.S. or any other country.

OPEC
OPEC is clinically dead, and it is questionable whether the oil giants of yesteryear will soon rise again.
Saudi Arabia has always been fair and has always limited its production to what was agreed, but the smaller producing countries have often broken the rules and produced more than what was agreed upon. This made the Arabs lose market share time and time again, as they always decided to produce less in order to keep oil prices high.

So this time, they were quite fed up with this little game and now they have decided to keep their production at full speed in order to maintain their market share. This created an explosive cocktail of oversupply and falling prices, since other oil producing countries (such as Russia, Brazil and Venezuela) are experiencing budgetary difficulties and tried to remedy this by producing even more oil.

Iraq Is Back
As if all of the above wasn't enough for oil investors to become depressed, Iraq's growing production (due to fewer sanctions) will continue to feed the oil glut. At full capacity, Iraq is able to produce 3.6 million barrels per day. A few days ago, Iraq reported that oil exports rose to a record 3.08 million bpd from 2.98 million bpd in March. This figure is only expected to grow.

Conclusion

There is still a gigantic glut in oil. Iraq's oil export is rising to record highs, OPEC supply in April rose to its highest in more than two years, and despite a sharp drop in U.S. shale drilling, storage tanks remain at record highs.

Speculators have been driving oil prices up way too fast and way too soon. I fear that this will only cause rigs to restart and make the glut even bigger.

    What is driving prices these days is less physical markets, which remain very weak, but more expectations of future tightening. If markets don't tighten as quickly as people are expecting, the sell-off can be large. (Source)

In the short term, I really feel as if it might be wise to take some of your profits, as I can't see oil going much higher considering the massive glut that will continue to be present in future months.

http://seekingalpha.com/article/3135146-in-the-wake-of-recent-months-heres-what-to-expect-from-oil?ifp=0
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Nuff said!

Title: Re: The Peak Energy Debate
Post by random on Jan 8th, 2016 at 5:14pm
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