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Message started by Karnal on Jun 11th, 2010 at 11:36am

Title: Circumcision
Post by Karnal on Jun 11th, 2010 at 11:36am
Does anyone know of a good doctor in Sydney? We're trying to get our child done. I know some are against this medical practice - please keep your views to yourself.

Circumcision is a cultural norm in our family, and we don't want our child to feel any different. It is good for hygeine. Also, we want her to find a good husband when she is old enough to marry.

Does anyone know who can do this operation?

Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by Imperium on Jun 11th, 2010 at 11:38am
lol

Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by Karnal on Jun 11th, 2010 at 11:40am
Please don't laugh. This is an important issue.

Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by Imperium on Jun 11th, 2010 at 11:42am
im pretty handy with a scalpel ill do it for $50

Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by Karnal on Jun 11th, 2010 at 12:25pm
Are you a doctor?

Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by skippy. on Jun 11th, 2010 at 1:13pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 11th, 2010 at 11:36am:
Does anyone know of a good doctor in Sydney? We're trying to get our child done. I know some are against this medical practice - please keep your views to yourself.

Circumcision is a cultural norm in our family, and we don't want our child to feel any different. It is good for hygeine. Also, we want her to find a good husband when she is old enough to marry.

Does anyone know who can do this operation?

I'm assuming that you're joking,right?

Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by helian on Jun 11th, 2010 at 1:22pm
Do it yourself, you lazy bastard.

Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by locutius on Jun 11th, 2010 at 1:26pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 11th, 2010 at 11:36am:
Does anyone know of a good doctor in Sydney? We're trying to get our child done. I know some are against this medical practice - please keep your views to yourself.

Circumcision is a cultural norm in our family, and we don't want our child to feel any different. It is good for hygeine. Also, we want her to find a good husband when she is old enough to marry.

Does anyone know who can do this operation?


Are you making a point of some type? :-?

Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by Karnal on Jun 11th, 2010 at 1:27pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 11th, 2010 at 1:22pm:
Do it yourself, you lazy bastard.


I cannot. I do not have the credentials. I am looking for someone who is the doctor, MBBS.

Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by helian on Jun 11th, 2010 at 1:28pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 11th, 2010 at 1:27pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jun 11th, 2010 at 1:22pm:
Do it yourself, you lazy bastard.


I cannot. I do not have the credentials. I am looking for someone who is the doctor, MBBS.

Christ, how hard could it be. Have you never cut squid rings? It'd be something like that, I reckon.

Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by muso on Jun 11th, 2010 at 1:34pm
Why would anybody ask such a question on a forum like this?

(I have my theories)

Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by helian on Jun 11th, 2010 at 1:37pm

muso wrote on Jun 11th, 2010 at 1:34pm:
Why would anybody ask such a question on a forum like this?

And from a gay black guy... ooo creepy....  :o

Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by locutius on Jun 11th, 2010 at 2:20pm
Could you explain

A. The hygeine benefits

B. What is a good husband


Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by Karnal on Jun 11th, 2010 at 2:21pm

muso wrote on Jun 11th, 2010 at 1:34pm:
Why would anybody ask such a question on a forum like this?

(I have my theories)


Because we wish to have him circumcised. Is this so strange? We want to find him the right husband in our culture.

Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by locutius on Jun 11th, 2010 at 2:23pm
Him/Her??? Keep track there mate...

Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by Imperium on Jun 11th, 2010 at 2:23pm
Why are you goons taking this seriously? Karnal's child seemingly has the magical ability to transform sex.

Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by skippy. on Jun 11th, 2010 at 2:23pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 11th, 2010 at 2:21pm:

muso wrote on Jun 11th, 2010 at 1:34pm:
Why would anybody ask such a question on a forum like this?

(I have my theories)


Because we wish to have him circumcised. Is this so strange? We want to find him the right husband in our culture.

Is it a him or a her? you've described the child as both.

Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by Karnal on Jun 11th, 2010 at 2:24pm

locutius wrote on Jun 11th, 2010 at 2:20pm:
Could you explain

A. The hygeine benefits

B. What is a good husband


I am not sure of the hygeine. This is a medical question. You will have to ask the doctor.

The husband is someone who will love him, but who also has a good job and can pay. We think money is more appropriate than other goods.

Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by Karnal on Jun 11th, 2010 at 2:27pm

skippy. wrote on Jun 11th, 2010 at 2:23pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 11th, 2010 at 2:21pm:

muso wrote on Jun 11th, 2010 at 1:34pm:
Why would anybody ask such a question on a forum like this?

(I have my theories)


Because we wish to have him circumcised. Is this so strange? We want to find him the right husband in our culture.

Is it a him or a her? you've described the child as both.


This is a medical question also. I am not sure how it works, but we would like our boy to have it removed. They also give them hormones and drugs as they get older, I think.

Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by skippy. on Jun 11th, 2010 at 2:29pm

Quote:
They also give them hormones and drugs as they get older, I think.


what for? can you start again from the top? I'm not quite following what you're on about.

Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by helian on Jun 11th, 2010 at 2:36pm

skippy. wrote on Jun 11th, 2010 at 2:29pm:

Quote:
They also give them hormones and drugs as they get older, I think.


what for? can you start again from the top? I'm not quite following what you're on about.

He started with the girl for the surprise factor.... then moved to the boy for the gay angle.

Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by Karnal on Jun 11th, 2010 at 2:39pm

skippy. wrote on Jun 11th, 2010 at 2:29pm:

Quote:
They also give them hormones and drugs as they get older, I think.


what for? can you start again from the top? I'm not quite following what you're on about.


We want our child to be circumcised as it is the norm in our family - for the health and other reasons.

It should not matter if she is a boy or girl I don't think. The doctor can perform good surgery. We wish to find a doctor who is qualified.

Once he has the operation we wish to find the right partner. If they get much older it is dangerous as the hormones can make the beard.

Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by muso on Jun 11th, 2010 at 2:40pm

aikmann4 wrote on Jun 11th, 2010 at 2:23pm:
Why are you goons taking this seriously? Karnal's child seemingly has the magical ability to transform sex.


Maybe it's a seahorse. Can we ask 20 questions?

Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by Karnal on Jun 11th, 2010 at 2:43pm

muso wrote on Jun 11th, 2010 at 2:40pm:

aikmann4 wrote on Jun 11th, 2010 at 2:23pm:
Why are you goons taking this seriously? Karnal's child seemingly has the magical ability to transform sex.


Maybe it's a seahorse. Can we ask 20 questions?


No, it is a boy but we don't like him as a boy. My wife likes to dress him in her cloth. She says we must have him circumcised so that she will grow up to be a good woman.

Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by muso on Jun 11th, 2010 at 2:48pm
Maybe he'll grow up to be a good troll like his dad.

Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by locutius on Jun 11th, 2010 at 2:53pm
20 questions? You nailed it in two.

Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by Karnal on Jun 11th, 2010 at 3:00pm

muso wrote on Jun 11th, 2010 at 2:48pm:
Maybe he'll grow up to be a good troll like his dad.


You are mistaken. His father is not a troll, but he is from another country.

Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by locutius on Jun 11th, 2010 at 3:12pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 11th, 2010 at 2:43pm:

muso wrote on Jun 11th, 2010 at 2:40pm:

aikmann4 wrote on Jun 11th, 2010 at 2:23pm:
Why are you goons taking this seriously? Karnal's child seemingly has the magical ability to transform sex.


Maybe it's a seahorse. Can we ask 20 questions?


No, it is a boy but we don't like him as a boy. My wife likes to dress him in her cloth. She says we must have him circumcised so that she will grow up to be a good woman.


That would be castration then.

Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by Karnal on Jun 11th, 2010 at 3:18pm

locutius wrote on Jun 11th, 2010 at 3:12pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 11th, 2010 at 2:43pm:

muso wrote on Jun 11th, 2010 at 2:40pm:

aikmann4 wrote on Jun 11th, 2010 at 2:23pm:
Why are you goons taking this seriously? Karnal's child seemingly has the magical ability to transform sex.


Maybe it's a seahorse. Can we ask 20 questions?


No, it is a boy but we don't like him as a boy. My wife likes to dress him in her cloth. She says we must have him circumcised so that she will grow up to be a good woman.


That would be castration then.


Is it? Oh, dear. I have no knowledge of these things. Do you know where we can have him circumcised?

Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by locutius on Jun 11th, 2010 at 4:05pm
Have you forgotten where you were going to spring the trap or hasn't anyone stumbled into it yet?  ;) Or maybe just quit now. :-*


Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by skippy. on Jun 11th, 2010 at 4:13pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 11th, 2010 at 3:18pm:

locutius wrote on Jun 11th, 2010 at 3:12pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 11th, 2010 at 2:43pm:

muso wrote on Jun 11th, 2010 at 2:40pm:

aikmann4 wrote on Jun 11th, 2010 at 2:23pm:
Why are you goons taking this seriously? Karnal's child seemingly has the magical ability to transform sex.


Maybe it's a seahorse. Can we ask 20 questions?


No, it is a boy but we don't like him as a boy. My wife likes to dress him in her cloth. She says we must have him circumcised so that she will grow up to be a good woman.


That would be castration then.


Is it? Oh, dear. I have no knowledge of these things. Do you know where we can have him circumcised?

I cant help with circumcision but I've got a good pair of de ballers I use on my sheep and goats. I bought them on e bay give it a go.

Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by Karnal on Jun 11th, 2010 at 5:33pm

skippy. wrote on Jun 11th, 2010 at 4:13pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 11th, 2010 at 3:18pm:

locutius wrote on Jun 11th, 2010 at 3:12pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 11th, 2010 at 2:43pm:

muso wrote on Jun 11th, 2010 at 2:40pm:

aikmann4 wrote on Jun 11th, 2010 at 2:23pm:
Why are you goons taking this seriously? Karnal's child seemingly has the magical ability to transform sex.


Maybe it's a seahorse. Can we ask 20 questions?


No, it is a boy but we don't like him as a boy. My wife likes to dress him in her cloth. She says we must have him circumcised so that she will grow up to be a good woman.


That would be castration then.


Is it? Oh, dear. I have no knowledge of these things. Do you know where we can have him circumcised?

I cant help with circumcision but I've got a good pair of de ballers I use on my sheep and goats. I bought them on e bay give it a go.


They already offered us sheep and goats for her but we said we wanted cash.

Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by helian on Jun 11th, 2010 at 9:35pm
Hmm Karnal...

You had the material to start it...

You just need to learn how to finish it.

Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by mantra on Jun 11th, 2010 at 9:48pm
Horrible topic, but there's been a bit of news recently about female circumcision and some doctors believe it should be made legal as they've had quite a few requests for the procedure.

Do we make it legal? We can't blame it as being a cultural mutilation any longer as western females are having it done for cosmetic purposes.

For whatever reason it's being done - culturally it's abhorrent and cosmetically it's masochistic.

Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by Soren on Jun 11th, 2010 at 10:04pm
Karnal, I suggest you get a couple of yoni puppetrs and practice at home. When you are ready, you can do it on your girl.
Rich tapestry of cultures - way to go.

http://www.yoni.com/vulvas/holidayvulvas.html


Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by Amadd on Jun 11th, 2010 at 10:10pm
As far as female circumcision goes, I don't understand there to be any rational reason behind it. It seems a bit stupid.
Male cicumcision on the other hand has some rationale but it's rather archaic.
I remember it to be an almost shocking realisation when I discovered that it was actually I who is the deformed dick through circumcision, and not those others with their weird looking socks.  ;D
But it's no big deal, I have no desire to recover my lost foreskin. I'm just happy that some lucky motorist got themselves a damned good fanbelt.







Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by mantra on Jun 12th, 2010 at 9:56am


Quote:
Male cicumcision on the other hand has some rationale but it's rather archaic.


Since it was announced by the medical profession decades ago that it was an unnecessary procedure, who from a circumcised generation could put their child under the knife - often without anaesthetic?

Perhaps those who want their baby boy to look like dad or for religious or cultural reasons. It has been proven over and over again that it is unnecessary and a good proportion of circumcision, whether for a male or female - has resulted in disastrous consequences.




Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by bobbythebat1 on Jun 12th, 2010 at 7:14pm
In my days it was done automatically to baby boys.
I am glad I was done.
It's good for health reasons - otherwise men get cheese under their foreskin
& terrible infections.
Also - what woman would want to go down on an uncircumcised penis?
There is also undisputed proof that it helps to stop the transfer of HIV AIDS.

Girls should have their labias trimmed if they are really long
otherwise they look like monkeys.
That should be their own personal choice when mature.

Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by Karnal on Jun 12th, 2010 at 9:20pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 12th, 2010 at 7:14pm:
In my days it was done automatically to baby boys.
I am glad I was done.
It's good for health reasons - otherwise men get cheese under their foreskin
& terrible infections.
Also - what woman would want to go down on an uncircumcised penis?
There is also undisputed proof that it helps to stop the transfer of HIV AIDS.

Girls should have their labias trimmed if they are really long
otherwise they look like monkeys.
That should be their own personal choice when mature.


You're not a plastic surgeon by any chance, are you?

Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by bobbythebat1 on Jun 12th, 2010 at 10:16pm
" You're not a plastic surgeon by any chance, are you? "

No I'm not.

Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by Imperium on Jun 12th, 2010 at 10:36pm
i'm uncircumcised 8-)

Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by Amadd on Jun 13th, 2010 at 1:02am

Quote:
It has been proven over and over again that it is unnecessary and a good proportion of circumcision, whether for a male or female - has resulted in disastrous consequences.


I do believe that for males it is more healthy to be circumcised only because males can be pretty lax where personal hygiene is concerned.
However, I sometimes wonder about the "butterfly effect" of such human interverntions when interfering with nature and the long term effects upon the human race.
We probably all know of those kids who have been wrapped in cotton wool all their lives and end up not being able to handle the threats from human and other lifeforms that are out there day in day out, just waiting to pounce on the weakest in the herd.
We might invent ways to be more powerful than dangerous bacteria in the short term, but who knows how strong they are going to get in the future?

Circumcision isn't at all a big deal to me now. I'm glad that it was done, however, if I was left to be of age to make my own decision about it, then I'd fight to my last dying breath to stop it from occurring.


Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by locutius on Jun 13th, 2010 at 6:32am

mantra wrote on Jun 12th, 2010 at 9:56am:

Quote:
Male cicumcision on the other hand has some rationale but it's rather archaic.


Since it was announced by the medical profession decades ago that it was an unnecessary procedure, who from a circumcised generation could put their child under the knife - often without anaesthetic?

Perhaps those who want their baby boy to look like dad or for religious or cultural reasons. It has been proven over and over again that it is unnecessary and a good proportion of circumcision, whether for a male or female - has resulted in disastrous consequences.


There is debate amongst the medical faternity as to the value of circumcision for males. So it is not unnaminous. Personally I think it healthier and cleaner for the male population generally.

There is no more "knife" necessary in the proceedure anymore. And should be, if done properly, be almost completely painless.


Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by mantra on Jun 13th, 2010 at 7:51am

locutius wrote on Jun 13th, 2010 at 6:32am:
There is debate amongst the medical faternity as to the value of circumcision for males. So it is not unnaminous. Personally I think it healthier and cleaner for the male population generally.

There is no more "knife" necessary in the proceedure anymore. And should be, if done properly, be almost completely painless.


It would be interesting to see an adult male go through this painless procedure without anaesthetic.

You hear so many stories about it being hygienic, but that would depend on the hygiene generally of a male. The foreskin is self cleaning and although most males from my generation appear to be circumcised - for a Generation Y male - it is not common.  

Personally I think circumcision should be a choice to be made once the child has a voice and not inflicted on babies who are completely defenceless.  

Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by bobbythebat1 on Jun 13th, 2010 at 1:14pm
It's obvious that circumcision is better.
I'm glad I was done.
Hot babes appreciate it.

Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by Imperium on Jun 13th, 2010 at 1:42pm
foreskin makes sex more pleasurable FYI

Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by locutius on Jun 13th, 2010 at 5:36pm

mantra wrote on Jun 13th, 2010 at 7:51am:

locutius wrote on Jun 13th, 2010 at 6:32am:
There is debate amongst the medical faternity as to the value of circumcision for males. So it is not unnaminous. Personally I think it healthier and cleaner for the male population generally.

There is no more "knife" necessary in the proceedure anymore. And should be, if done properly, be almost completely painless.


It would be interesting to see an adult male go through this painless procedure without anaesthetic.


Do some research. Other than the possible embarrassment, I would have no problem having the proceedure done...it is done by anesthetic cream and a plastic ring and rubber band system.


mantra wrote on Jun 13th, 2010 at 7:51am:
You hear so many stories about it being hygienic, but that would depend on the hygiene generally of a male. The foreskin is self cleaning and although most males from my generation appear to be circumcised - for a Generation Y male - it is not common.


Yes it does depend on the general hygiene of individual males..I personally think it is easier to keep the circumcised willy clean. I don't know about the self cleaning bit, in fact I'm highly sceptical....sounds like a urban myth in bad taste. 


mantra wrote on Jun 13th, 2010 at 7:51am:
Personally I think circumcision should be a choice to be made once the child has a voice and not inflicted on babies who are completely defenceless.  


Based on a purely cosmetic choice..I would agree. I think the basis for it is more layered than that.



Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by JaeMi on Jun 15th, 2010 at 9:35am
I was around 10 when I was circumcised, and was a bit furious at my dad for not agreeing to have it done when I was born. I remember complaining for days about the disgusting "raspberry-flavoured" laughing gas. For anyone who hasn't gone under anaesthetic before, I strongly suggest taking a needle over the gas.

Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by muso on Jun 15th, 2010 at 10:00am
- bit of a 'foregone' conclusion isn't it?  ;)

Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by locutius on Jun 15th, 2010 at 10:20am
That was just awful. :)

Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by Imperium on Jun 15th, 2010 at 3:00pm

Hlysnan wrote on Jun 15th, 2010 at 9:35am:
I was around 10 when I was circumcised, and was a bit furious at my dad for not agreeing to have it done when I was born. I remember complaining for days about the disgusting "raspberry-flavoured" laughing gas. For anyone who hasn't gone under anaesthetic before, I strongly suggest taking a needle over the gas.


1 year old JaeMi disagrees.

Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by Karnal on Jun 15th, 2010 at 3:20pm

aikmann4 wrote on Jun 13th, 2010 at 1:42pm:
foreskin makes sex more pleasurable FYI


Yes, this is why we wish to remove our childs.

Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by locutius on Jun 15th, 2010 at 10:02pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 15th, 2010 at 3:20pm:

aikmann4 wrote on Jun 13th, 2010 at 1:42pm:
foreskin makes sex more pleasurable FYI


Yes, this is why we wish to remove our childs.


Yes someone should remove your child.

Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by Karnal on Jun 17th, 2010 at 11:35am

locutius wrote on Jun 15th, 2010 at 10:02pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 15th, 2010 at 3:20pm:

aikmann4 wrote on Jun 13th, 2010 at 1:42pm:
foreskin makes sex more pleasurable FYI


Yes, this is why we wish to remove our childs.


Yes someone should remove your child.


Yes this is our wish but only for the genital.

Title: Re: Circumcision
Post by Karnal on Jun 19th, 2010 at 6:31pm
It is said that all childs should be circumcised at birth. What  is your opinion?

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