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Message started by abu_rashid on Dec 18th, 2009 at 10:23am

Title: Iraqi insurgents hacked into US drones
Post by abu_rashid on Dec 18th, 2009 at 10:23am
Iraq insurgents 'hack into video feeds from US drones'


Drones can be remotely controlled from thousands of miles away

Insurgents in Iraq have hacked into live video feeds from unmanned American drone aircraft, US media reports say.

Shia fighters are said to have used off-the-shelf software programs such as SkyGrabber to capture the footage.

The hacking was possible because the remotely flown planes have an unprotected communications link.

Obtaining such video feeds could provide insurgents with information about sites the military might be planning to target.

ANALYSIS
Mark Ward, technology correspondent, BBC News
As its name implies, SkyGrabber is a program that grabs data being broadcast by satellites - it acts as a radio for data feeds and lets people tune into different data streams as they might radio stations.

Anyone downloading via a wire only shares that net link with a few neighbours. By contrast, anyone using a satellite net connection effectively shares all the data they are getting with everyone in the area covered by a satellite.

Those other people do not see that data because their PC is only watching for what they want. However, SkyGrabber eavesdrops on all the data being downloaded over a link and turns it back into whole files.

The way that data is sent over the net makes it very easy for anyone to reconstruct files. SkyGrabber has proved popular because it has good filters that let people sort the types of files, mp3, wmv, jpg they want to get.

It also knows about many different satellites and can be re-tuned to look at other data streams - such as those coming from drones.

The downside is that SkyGrabber users only get what other people want.

The Associated Press news agency quotes a US Department of Defense official as saying the military has also found evidence of at least one instance where insurgents in Afghanistan monitored drone video.

The breach of the Pentagon surveillance system's security in Iraq is said to have come to light when footage shot by a Predator drone was found on the laptop of an apprehended insurgent.

A senior Pentagon official is quoted by the Wall Street Journal as saying that although militants were able to view the video, there was no evidence that they were able to jam electronic signals from the aircraft or take control of them.

The unnamed official said the US defence department had addressed the issue by working to encrypt all video feeds provided by drones in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Predator drones can fly for several hours, remotely controlled by pilots thousands of miles away. The aircraft can carry out surveillance and attack targets with on-board missiles.

Responding to the reports, a Pentagon spokesman said: "The Department of Defense constantly evaluates and seeks to improve the performance and security of our various systems and platforms.

"As we identify shortfalls, we correct them as part of a continuous process of seeking to improve capabilities and security. As a matter of policy, we don't comment on specific vulnerabilities or intelligence issues."

Source: BBC

Title: Re:  Iraqi insurgents hacked into US drones
Post by Americancitizen87 on Dec 18th, 2009 at 7:20pm
abu what political party do you favor?

Title: Re:  Iraqi insurgents hacked into US drones
Post by soren on Dec 18th, 2009 at 8:25pm

Americancitizen87 wrote on Dec 18th, 2009 at 7:20pm:
abu what political party do you favor?


The Party of Allah - 'Party like it's 632'. Heard of it? Do you have if it back there?
Your Prez is a Hussein, he should be educating you on Allah.





Title: Re:  Iraqi insurgents hacked into US drones
Post by Americancitizen87 on Dec 18th, 2009 at 8:28pm
No we don't have a large muslim contingency here if your referring to that and I am looking to get away from Obama an his socialism

Title: Re:  Iraqi insurgents hacked into US drones
Post by abu_rashid on Dec 18th, 2009 at 11:45pm
Americancitizen, none.

I favour dismantling all secular states and replacing them with a Caliphate.

Theoretically speaking anyway. Right now I'm a crypto-democrat, cos it's good for my cause apparently :)

Title: Re:  Iraqi insurgents hacked into US drones
Post by Americancitizen87 on Dec 19th, 2009 at 4:58am
Who do you favor economically?

Title: Re:  Iraqi insurgents hacked into US drones
Post by abu_rashid on Dec 19th, 2009 at 7:52am
As I said complete replacement with a Caliphate.

Only the Islamic economic system can bring true economic prosperity.

Title: Re:  Iraqi insurgents hacked into US drones
Post by abu_rashid on Dec 19th, 2009 at 8:09am
American Citizen,


Quote:
No we don't have a large muslim contingency here


America has one of the largest Muslim populations in a predominantly Christian country.

soren,


Quote:
Your Prez is a Hussein, he should be educating you on Allah.


He's a Christian (ie. your co-religionist) who was the son of an atheist. His grandparents are Muslims, but neither nor his parents are/were.

Title: Re:  Iraqi insurgents hacked into US drones
Post by soren on Dec 19th, 2009 at 11:09am

abu_rashid wrote on Dec 19th, 2009 at 8:09am:
soren,


Quote:
Your Prez is a Hussein, he should be educating you on Allah.


He's a Christian (ie. your co-religionist) who was the son of an atheist. His grandparents are Muslims, but neither nor his parents are/were.



Yes, interesting.  How did he become a Christian, in such a very anti-Christian environment? It's  front, I think. He used it as a way into 'community organisation'. Hangin' out wiv da black brovvers.

Title: Re:  Iraqi insurgents hacked into US drones
Post by Americancitizen87 on Dec 19th, 2009 at 1:37pm

abu_rashid wrote on Dec 19th, 2009 at 7:52am:
As I said complete replacement with a Caliphate.

Only the Islamic economic system can bring true economic prosperity.


bugger that man you shouldn't mix economic freedom with religion that may explain why most muslim countries are not very economically free! I know muslims who come from all over the USA is probably a lot more culturally accepting of religions and races than australia I mean we don't have anybody proclaiming to be skin heads and all that but you shouldn't enforce your religious views on others and especially civil and economic rights!! I have debated many muslims on economics and they usually are more socialist before I get done talking with them and then more pro market after the discussion. But I am from the southern USA and where it was only 65% white and so I am used to seeing blacks, latinos, arabs and I don't freak out about it or take offense to things I have had muslims tell me that 9-11 is a hoax and this and that I don't buy that but I am not like you know going to call the FBI and report them I like to discuss. But the Islamic religion should not inflict their beliefs on other people to the point where it hurts other people's freedoms. But let me know what you think.

Title: Re:  Iraqi insurgents hacked into US drones
Post by Americancitizen87 on Dec 19th, 2009 at 1:47pm
I didnt write bugger? Is that the censor word? LOL ;D

Title: Re:  Iraqi insurgents hacked into US drones
Post by abu_rashid on Dec 19th, 2009 at 2:46pm

Quote:
you shouldn't mix economic freedom with religion that may explain why most muslim countries are not very economically free


Islam is much more economically "free" than the Western capitalist system. In fact trade as always the specialty of Muslims. For well over 1000 years, the entire worlds economy was alive due to the Islamic trade system.

No Muslim country implements the Islamic economic model.

Title: Re:  Iraqi insurgents hacked into US drones
Post by Americancitizen87 on Dec 19th, 2009 at 2:54pm
Well tell me what the islamic  economic system is? For over 1000 years where do you get your information from?

Title: Re:  Iraqi insurgents hacked into US drones
Post by soren on Dec 19th, 2009 at 6:49pm

abu_rashid wrote on Dec 19th, 2009 at 2:46pm:

Quote:
you shouldn't mix economic freedom with religion that may explain why most muslim countries are not very economically free


Islam is much more economically "free" than the Western capitalist system. In fact trade as always the specialty of Muslims. For well over 1000 years, the entire worlds economy was alive due to the Islamic trade system.

No Muslim country implements the Islamic economic model.



Yes, we know - the Islamic system is sooo good - nobody wants it!!! People for ya, eh?

Title: Re:  Iraqi insurgents hacked into US drones
Post by abu_rashid on Dec 19th, 2009 at 7:32pm

Quote:
For over 1000 years where do you get your information from?


There's quite a few good wiki articles on this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_economics_in_the_world
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_economics
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Agricultural_Revolution
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_capitalism

Title: Re:  Iraqi insurgents hacked into US drones
Post by Senexx on Dec 20th, 2009 at 6:54pm

abu_rashid wrote on Dec 18th, 2009 at 10:23am:
Iraq insurgents 'hack into video feeds from US drones'


Drones can be remotely controlled from thousands of miles away

Insurgents in Iraq have hacked into live video feeds from unmanned American drone aircraft, US media reports say.

Shia fighters are said to have used off-the-shelf software programs such as SkyGrabber to capture the footage.

The hacking was possible because the remotely flown planes have an unprotected communications link.

Obtaining such video feeds could provide insurgents with information about sites the military might be planning to target.

ANALYSIS
Mark Ward, technology correspondent, BBC News
As its name implies, SkyGrabber is a program that grabs data being broadcast by satellites - it acts as a radio for data feeds and lets people tune into different data streams as they might radio stations.

Anyone downloading via a wire only shares that net link with a few neighbours. By contrast, anyone using a satellite net connection effectively shares all the data they are getting with everyone in the area covered by a satellite.

Those other people do not see that data because their PC is only watching for what they want. However, SkyGrabber eavesdrops on all the data being downloaded over a link and turns it back into whole files.

The way that data is sent over the net makes it very easy for anyone to reconstruct files. SkyGrabber has proved popular because it has good filters that let people sort the types of files, mp3, wmv, jpg they want to get.

It also knows about many different satellites and can be re-tuned to look at other data streams - such as those coming from drones.

The downside is that SkyGrabber users only get what other people want.

The Associated Press news agency quotes a US Department of Defense official as saying the military has also found evidence of at least one instance where insurgents in Afghanistan monitored drone video.

The breach of the Pentagon surveillance system's security in Iraq is said to have come to light when footage shot by a Predator drone was found on the laptop of an apprehended insurgent.

A senior Pentagon official is quoted by the Wall Street Journal as saying that although militants were able to view the video, there was no evidence that they were able to jam electronic signals from the aircraft or take control of them.

The unnamed official said the US defence department had addressed the issue by working to encrypt all video feeds provided by drones in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Predator drones can fly for several hours, remotely controlled by pilots thousands of miles away. The aircraft can carry out surveillance and attack targets with on-board missiles.

Responding to the reports, a Pentagon spokesman said: "The Department of Defense constantly evaluates and seeks to improve the performance and security of our various systems and platforms.

"As we identify shortfalls, we correct them as part of a continuous process of seeking to improve capabilities and security. As a matter of policy, we don't comment on specific vulnerabilities or intelligence issues."

Source: BBC


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