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Message started by sprintcyclist on Dec 10th, 2009 at 9:05am

Title: Aboriginal health - a financial black hole .......
Post by sprintcyclist on Dec 10th, 2009 at 9:05am

It's racist and a waste of valuable resources to pander to hopeless cases.


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PUBLIC hospital reform wasn't the only issue put on the backburner at this week's Council of Australian Governments meeting in Brisbane. The Rudd government has also put off decisions about indigenous health.

This is disappointing because some of the recommendations in the final report of the National Health and Hospitals Reform Commission are worth pursuing.

The indigenous health sectoris plagued by a lack of accountability. The NHHRC has therefore proposed that a national Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander health authority be establishedto assume complete responsibility for funding indigenous healthservices.

This is an overdue move in the right direction. A single authority responsible for indigenous health, combined with greater financial transparency, is an essential prerequisite for improving the delivery of health services to indigenous communities.

Commonwealth funding for indigenous-specific health programs has increased by 328 per cent in the past 12 years, from $115 million in 1995-96 to $492m in 2007-08, with no appreciable improvement in health outcomes.

Increased funding has failed to make any significant progress towards closing the appalling health gaps between indigenous and non-indigenous Australians because no one really knows where this money is going and what it is or is not achieving.

In an attempt to control where funding is going and to provide the illusion that it is targeting resources, the commonwealth government has channelled money into more and more indigenous health programs. Rather than leading to greater accountability, this has resulted in a mess of overlapping state and federal government programs. The delivery of these programs is equally complex, with Aboriginal Community Controlled Health Services vying with other government and non-government health services.

The result is waste and duplication in some areas and service gaps in others.

Proper accountability is next to impossible when, for example, one Aboriginal health service receives 42 different buckets of money, each with separate applications and reporting requirements.

Not surprisingly, while bigger services have the money and expertise to complete the paperwork, smaller services struggle tocomply.

The Department of Health and Ageing report Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Health Performance Framework 2008 shows that in 2005-06 only half of ACCHS fully met legal reporting requirements to the Office of the Registrar of Indigenous Corporation under the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Corporations Act.

Unlike ORIC, the Department of Health and Ageing has the stick of being able to withdraw funding. But even this stick does not appear to be enough as the department's 2007-08 outcome report shows.

Despite significant additional support from the department, a number of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander health organisations were still considered to be of serious concern and at extreme risk of not managing their finances, leading in some cases to mismanagement and even fraud.

An administrator had to be appointed at the Biripi Aboriginal Medical Service in regional NSW (at a cost of $150,000 to taxpayers) when it was revealed that nearly all the staff, including the receptionist, had been given mobile phones and $400,000 earmarked for a building project was not used appropriately.

Another organisation was put in liquidation after it was found to have poor record keeping; it had also failed to hold an annual general meeting and its directors were unaware of its financial position.

The long list of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander corporations (not all ACCHS) in breach of their reporting requirements published on ORIC's website suggests that these are not isolated instances. ORIC says it will undertake compliance activities against all large corporations that do not report by December 31.

A single funder for indigenous health could make a real difference. But only if a non-negotiable requirement is accurate reporting, including how patient outcomes are related to the cost and quality of services provided.

Demanding greater accountability should not be confused with calls to abolish Aboriginal health services. Community-controlled services are not a bad idea in themselves. Diversity and cultural appropriateness can be important in meeting the complex health needs of indigenous people.

But the same standards that apply in the rest of Australia must also apply in indigenous Australia.

Mushy pledges by politicians about closing the gap are no substitute for greater financial transparency. Closing the accountability gap is the first step to better indigenous health.

Sara Hudson is a policy analyst with the Centre for Independent Studies. Her report Closing the Accountability Gap: The First Step towards Better Indigenous Health was released last week.


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/opinion/wasting-money-damages-aboriginal-health/story-e6frg6zo-1225808818702

Title: Re: Aboriginal health - a financial black hole .......
Post by Imperium on Dec 11th, 2009 at 12:19am
One of the most pertinent questions concerning the White/Aboriginal healthcare gap to me is this: What extent does g play in the existence of this disparity?

The government of course would sooner spend fifteen percent of our GDP on trying to bridge this divide than ponder even the superficial aspects of this query. But it has to be asked. Only an overt acknowledgment of this possibility can lead to the development of efficacious strategies to overcome the healthcare disparity.

Title: Re: Aboriginal health - a financial black hole .......
Post by Aussie Skinhead on Dec 17th, 2009 at 8:58pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 10th, 2009 at 9:05am:
It's racist and a waste of valuable resources to pander to hopeless cases.



The word racist is a Jewish invention created by that communist pig Trotsky to divide and conquer the west. Any one who calls another dude racist is a communist Jew.

Title: Re: Aboriginal health - a financial black hole .......
Post by Imperium on Dec 18th, 2009 at 5:09pm
Have you read Kevin MacDonald, Aussie Skinhead? I would recommend him as his works could provide your beliefs with a much needed intellectual refinement.

Title: Re: Aboriginal health - a financial black hole .......
Post by Aussie Skinhead on Dec 18th, 2009 at 5:41pm
Are you calling me unintellectual? Sounding intellectual is for the enemy. The intelligentsia can go to hell.

Title: Re: Aboriginal health - a financial black hole .......
Post by Imperium on Dec 18th, 2009 at 5:58pm
lol

The mainstream intelligentsia are indeed inimical to Western Civilization yes, but developing sophisticated opinions on things (which they don't do usually) is not a vice. You should read Kevin MacDonald so you can leave behind the silly conspriacy theories while still preserving your idiosyncratic anti-semitism.


Title: Re: Aboriginal health - a financial black hole .......
Post by Americancitizen87 on Dec 18th, 2009 at 7:05pm
Our national govt's annual budget is 4 trillion dollars. With a social service like that we should have no problems right? Wrong the govt makes more problems. The best thing for the aborigines people is for the govt. to get out of their way and everybody else. The best kind of motivation is self-motivation.

Title: Re: Aboriginal health - a financial black hole .......
Post by Aussie Skinhead on Dec 18th, 2009 at 7:11pm

Americancitizen87 wrote on Dec 18th, 2009 at 7:05pm:
Our national govt's annual budget is 4 trillion dollars. With a social service like that we should have no problems right? Wrong the govt makes more problems. The best thing for the aborigines people is for the govt. to get out of their way and everybody else. The best kind of motivation is self-motivation.

Mate, the blacks have no self-determination. They are lazy. Welfare is all right when it is given to the right people for the right reasons. The lacks, on the other hand, should be abandoned and left alone to deal with them selves.

Title: Re: Aboriginal health - a financial black hole .......
Post by Americancitizen87 on Dec 18th, 2009 at 7:18pm
The more "free money" anybody is given it will harness their ambition. Learn your lesson from the U.S. don't make a welfare state and run huge deficits and take everyone's standard of living down just for "good intentions". I am going to bring americans with me americans who believe in a distinct culture self-reliance and rugged individuality these values are what made the USA the greatest place in the world and the lack of these values have made us on the verge of a third world state.

Title: Re: Aboriginal health - a financial black hole .......
Post by soren on Dec 18th, 2009 at 8:27pm

Americancitizen87 wrote on Dec 18th, 2009 at 7:18pm:
the USA the greatest place in the world



Don't leave home.


Title: Re: Aboriginal health - a financial black hole .......
Post by Americancitizen87 on Dec 18th, 2009 at 8:29pm
Haha why?

Title: Re: Aboriginal health - a financial black hole .......
Post by sprintcyclist on Dec 18th, 2009 at 8:36pm


Americancitizen87 - i agree entirely.
the recent problems in US are the result of leftard policies within US.

It is to everyones detriment is US gets worse.

Title: Re: Aboriginal health - a financial black hole .......
Post by Americancitizen87 on Dec 18th, 2009 at 8:38pm
The usa is done forget about it. The demographics have changed to where people who have grown up on entitlements their whole life now control a large percent of the voting block. Australia and asia Hong Kong, Singapore is the place to be!!

Title: Re: Aboriginal health - a financial black hole .......
Post by Imperium on Dec 18th, 2009 at 9:28pm
Suckering the welfare system here is a piece of cake. It takes about two days max to get on it and I guarantee you once you are the chance that they'll never ring you again is fairly high. You can just disappear after that.

Title: Re: Aboriginal health - a financial black hole .......
Post by Aussie Skinhead on Dec 18th, 2009 at 10:02pm
Americancitizen87, I do agree with you that there is a problem with the welfare state but I do support Australia having a welfare system. The welfare system was created in the 1940s by the Labor government to look after war veterans, crippled people (some were crippled during the wars), war widows, old people, unemployed and students. That kind of welfare system is all right because it takes care of people who need help. Old people work for decades and pay taxes like good citizens. Shouldn't the state look after them in their old age considering that the old people have paid millions of dollars in taxes? Shouldn't the state look after the men and women who have fought for our freedom? Shouldn't the state look after the widows of the men who died for our freedoms? Allowances should be given to the unemployed because they have been screwed over by the system. The state should only give a necessary amount of assistance to the unemployed. Just enough to survive. As for the students, decent amount of assistance should be provided to help them out. Students should be encouraged to get part time work.

But, as you have said, there is a problem. The welfare system has been abused by people with a  vested interest. Welfare has now been extended to single mums, parents, people of the middle class (i.e. middle class welfare), immigrants and many other people. Most of them just don't deserve it. Teenage girls are being encouraged to get pregnant because they now that they will get assistance from the welfare department. Now, what kind of society are we trying to create by encourage that type of behaviour? Immigrants don't deserve benefits because they are not Australians and they haven't even paid taxes!!! As one famous neo-liberal economist said, a nation shouldn't have a welfare state and a mass immigration policy at the same time.

Title: Re: Aboriginal health - a financial black hole .......
Post by Aussie Skinhead on Dec 18th, 2009 at 10:04pm

Americancitizen87 wrote on Dec 18th, 2009 at 8:38pm:
The usa is done forget about it. The demographics have changed to where people who have grown up on entitlements their whole life now control a large percent of the voting block. Australia and asia Hong Kong, Singapore is the place to be!!

I thought America had a weak inferior welfare system. But wouldn't you Yanks denounce it as socialism or some thing? I thought you Yanks hated any thing socialistic.

Title: Re: Aboriginal health - a financial black hole .......
Post by Americancitizen87 on Dec 19th, 2009 at 4:57am
We have a huge welfare state. Australia is more economically free than we are. I am a free market guy but not everybody is. About 40% of white people and 85% of minorities vote for the socialistic democratic party

Why are you so racist? You think your the smartest thing in the world? I am a white with a small bit of Native American and I don't go around quoting Hitler!!

Title: Re: Aboriginal health - a financial black hole .......
Post by Aussie Skinhead on Dec 19th, 2009 at 1:53pm
The word racist is Jewish. Anti racism and political correctness are policies of cultural Marxism. I am proud of my race, country and culture and so, according to the Jews and commies, I'm a "racist". If so then so be it. I am a proud white man.

Title: Re: Aboriginal health - a financial black hole .......
Post by Americancitizen87 on Dec 19th, 2009 at 2:08pm
I am a proud white man too. But you shouldn’t call me inferior because I like a beautiful white/latino women with a big old A$$ I can play with. I think the white man is the most discriminated race/gender in the USA and in the OZ too. But that is why I am a libertarian and believe in freedom and don’t believe in quotas or redistribution of wealth or a welfare state. You should not be ashamed of white culture as the white man has contributed greatly to society but you shouldn’t quote Hitler and what not he wasn’t for freedom he was the exact opposite and he ruined a good country that isn’t noble.

Title: Re: Aboriginal health - a financial black hole .......
Post by Aussie Skinhead on Dec 19th, 2009 at 5:15pm
He didn't ruin Germany. Germany was stabbed in the back by the western powers. Hitler had no interest in fighting the west. He only wanted to fight Soviet Russia and he wanted to stop the spread of communism.

Title: Re: Aboriginal health - a financial black hole .......
Post by soren on Dec 19th, 2009 at 6:42pm

Aussie Skinhead wrote on Dec 19th, 2009 at 5:15pm:
He didn't ruin Germany. Germany was stabbed in the back by the western powers. Hitler had no interest in fighting the west. He only wanted to fight Soviet Russia and he wanted to stop the spread of communism.



Yes, that's why he invaded France and the Benelux countries and Denmark and Norway.

A year before he invaded Russia.

How does it feel to be such a complete smacking prat? You fascinate me.


Title: Re: Aboriginal health - a financial black hole .......
Post by Aussie Skinhead on Dec 19th, 2009 at 7:38pm

Soren wrote on Dec 19th, 2009 at 6:42pm:
Yes, that's why he invaded France and the Benelux countries and Denmark and Norway.

A year before he invaded Russia.

How does it feel to be such a complete smacking prat? You fascinate me.

You are for getting the fact that the west declared war on him not the other war around. He invaded Poland so as to get his forces in place to invade the Soviet Union. Hitler, as most historians have claimed, did not want a two front war. So, he decided to eliminate the west as a threat before he invaded the Soviet Union.

If you think about it, the western countries were controlled by the same global elite. The elite hated the NSDAP and the Hitler government.

Title: Re: Aboriginal health - a financial black hole .......
Post by Americancitizen87 on Dec 23rd, 2009 at 8:50pm
Aussies Skinhead you are an idiot. Come to the USA with that toughguy attitude! You will get that a$$ whipped!! The USA already tore NAZI A$$ up once!!

Title: Re: Aboriginal health - a financial black hole .......
Post by Aussie Skinhead on Dec 23rd, 2009 at 10:00pm
Do you really think that I am scared of you Yanks? I've got no interest in you Yanks and I don't plan on going to America. I'll stick to Australia, thank you. You Yanks can stay in America, ok.

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