British neo-Nazi jailed over racist terror plot
September 9, 2009

A British neo-Nazi who wanted to emulate Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh was jailed for at least six years on Tuesday for plotting a racist terror campaign.

Neil Lewington, a 44-year-old unemployed electrician, built a bomb factory in his bedroom to assemble devices including tennis ball shrapnel bombs to target families of South Asian origin, his trial was told.

A notebook entitled "Waffen SS UK members' handbook" including drawings of electronics and chemical devices, as well as a note reading "compressed thermite grenade vs Paki front door" were also found.

Lewington - who lived with his parents in Tilehurst, outside Reading, and who was arrested by chance after drunkenly abusing a female official at a train station - told one woman that "the only good Paki was a dead Paki".

"This man, who had strong if not fanatical right wing leanings and opinions, was on the cusp of embarking on a campaign of terrorism against those he considered non-British," said prosecutor Brian Altman.

"In addition to his extreme views on race and ethnicity, the defendant had an unhealthy interest in bombers as well as bombings."

At his home police also found videos about McVeigh, co-author of the 1995 Oklahoma bombing which killed 168, and British far-righter David Copeland, who nail-bombed a gay bar in London's Soho district in 1999, killing three.

Altman said Lewington "admired, and might soon have emulated, the bombers about whom he possessed two compilation video tapes, had he not been captured, albeit quite fortuitously".

Judge Peter Thornton said: "You are a dangerous man, somebody who exhibits emotional coldness and detachment. You would not have been troubled by the prospect of endangering somebody's life."

Source: Sydney Morning Herald

Neo-nazis: 1 (attempt)

Islamic terrorists:

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I think Islam is in the lead.

It's the first act of violence by Neo-Nazis??? which rock have you been festering under??

As for that counter, as I've shown plenty of times before, most of it is nonsense. They count things like attacks by an occupied people against an invading army...

Bloody hell Calanen, it is not a competition, and to even have it enter into your head that it is, shows more about where your own head is at, rather than shedding any light on how, we as a society, should deal with fanatics of all persuasions, be the ultra nationalist loons, or religious zealots.

I think this sends a very good message that we need to be on guard to counter these loonies no matter what quarter they pop up from, and that they will not be tolerated by any decent society.

I am very glad that they have caught this man, and hope that they put all violent people behind bars, where they belong.

mozzaok - how come i often agree with athiests ??

indeed many i hold in high regard

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Bloody hell Calanen, it is not a competition, and to even have it enter into your head that it is, shows more about where your own head is at, rather than shedding any light on how, we as a society, should deal with fanatics of all persuasions, be the ultra nationalist loons, or religious zealots.

The Neonazis or whatever are far, far less of a worry than Islam. They are fewer in number, far fewer, and do not have access to oil money and the ummah financing. They are not fighting and arming military conflicts around the world, and are not part of a worldwide global jihad.

If only the problem of Islam was as small as that of neonazism. Also, while Neonazis are widely reviled by the general public - the worst behaviour of Islam is excused by many in society as just being a product of poor foreign policy choices. The problem of Islam is a problem of ideas too, and Neonazis cannot hide behind the victimhood mantle of the poor oppressed migrant that is discriminated against.

I rate Islam as a much much bigger threat, although, I know that environmental terrorists, nationalists, neonazis, and abortion bombers are useful straw men to try to cover up the true danger that is Islam by somehow saying the threat is equivalent. It isn't, not on any measure. Islam is streets ahead of any of these groups, by any measure you wish to adopt, money, members, press time, web presence, deaths, global activities.

Just so.

Melanie Phillips make the point succinctly, as usual, under the very apt title, The Clash of Uncivilisation:

There is already a huge fissure among anti-Islamists over whether or not to ally with European neo-fascists. Since liberals are either silent, or even aligning with the jihadis on the grounds that ‘we are all Hezbollah now’ and turning instead upon the pivotal victim in this civilisational war, Israel, some anti-Islamists say that allying with neo-fascist groups is a no-brainer, because ‘my enemy’s enemy is my friend’.
But this is a highly dangerous course. Islamic fascism
must be fought to defend Western values of freedom, democracy and tolerance. This cannot be done in an alliance with white neo-fascists bent on their negation. Sometimes, my enemy’s enemy is also my enemy.

This is why all decent people must join in the fight against Islamic supremacism. Support for the BNP would plummet if the political mainstream were to limit immigration, denounce cultural Islamic imperialism and refuse to give one inch to sharia law, saying no to polygamy, sharia finance, sharia courts and all attempts to set up a parallel Islamic society in Britain.
Freedom can only be protected if its defenders are united. But with Britain’s collective brain turned to multicultural jelly, liberals are refusing to acknowledge the civilisational battle now under way and gathering pace. The obsession with the ‘far right’ has cemented progressive opinion into its current lethal state of cultural somnambulism. Liberals must raise their eyes, raise their game and ask where this is leading. For there is far worse on the horizon than a nasty man on Question Time.


http://www.spectator.co.uk/essays/all/5457918/the-clash-of-uncivilisations.thtml

I rate Islam as a much much bigger threat
I agree with you.

I know that environmental terrorists, nationalists, neonazis, and abortion bombers are useful straw men to try to cover up the true danger that is Islam by somehow saying the threat is equivalent.  

Well I did not see anybody else drawing comparisons but you, Calanen, and I think that we just need to focus on all anti social behaviour, from all quarters, whatever they may be, and I do not exclude Islamist extremists from that, and deal with them with the law, that protects us all, the operative word being an inclusive, all.

mozzaok wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2009 at 9:02pm:

I rate Islam as a much much bigger threat I agree with you. I know that environmental terrorists, nationalists, neonazis, and abortion bombers are useful straw men to try to cover up the true danger that is Islam by somehow saying the threat is equivalent.   Well I did not see anybody else drawing comparisons but you, Calanen, and I think that we just need to focus on all anti social behaviour, from all quarters, whatever they may be, and I do not exclude Islamist extremists from that, and deal with them with the law, that protects us all, the operative word being an inclusive, all.

Mozz, you are almost right.

Each threat, each anti-social behaviour must be dealt with on it own terms. It's no use treating rampaging Muslims the same way as rampaging schoolboys. Their aims, motivations are different. These things matter, these are the things that need to be dealt with.

I agree with melania phillipps

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saying no to polygamy, sharia finance, sharia courts... Freedom can only be protected...

Bit of a contradiction of terms isn't it??

People can have the freedom to gay marriages, to be swingers in multi-way "partnerships", to have mistresses, even getting them pregnant and avoiding taking responsibility for them.... that's all good and well, but don't ever speak about marrying her and taking care of any kids she might have to you!!!

And you can make financial co-ops for any kind of cause you can think of, just as long as it doesn't mention the word "Shari'ah complaint"??? What a load of bollocks, this isn't about freedom, this is about curtailing the freedoms of one group only.

The Jews in Britain have had their own parallel 'legal tribunal' for years, and nobody batted an eyelid. Where was Melanie when that happened??

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Well I did not see anybody else drawing comparisons but you, Calanen, and I think that we just need to focus on all anti social behaviour, from all quarters, whatever they may be, and I do not exclude Islamist extremists from that, and deal with them with the law, that protects us all, the operative word being an inclusive, all.

We're all just as bad as each other, no one's good or bad, kumbaya my lord, why cant everyone just get alone..what about pimps, and pr0no makers and drug dealers, and people who short change you on your groceries huh! What about them huh! What about those who dump toxic waste huh! What about the people who throw away cigarette butts in the street!

So many straw men, so little time.

Priorities. Defeat Islam first. Then you'll have all the time and resources to worry about whatever you want, whether it be noxious weeds or driving offences. If Islam is not stopped, you won't have anything to worry about except staying alive.

abu_rashid wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2009 at 10:36pm:

Quote: saying no to polygamy, sharia finance, sharia courts... Freedom can only be protected... Bit of a contradiction of terms isn't it?? People can have the freedom to gay marriages, to be swingers in multi-way "partnerships", to have mistresses, even getting them pregnant and avoiding taking responsibility for them.... that's all good and well, but don't ever speak about marrying her and taking care of any kids she might have to you!!! And you can make financial co-ops for any kind of cause you can think of, just as long as it doesn't mention the word "Shari'ah complaint"??? What a load of bollocks, this isn't about freedom, this is about curtailing the freedoms of one group only. The Jews in Britain have had their own parallel 'legal tribunal' for years, and nobody batted an eyelid. Where was Melanie when that happened??

Mebbe it's because the jews never told the queen and her governemnt to convert or burn in hell or that the jews are there to take over and make Britain a Zionist entity.
The jews are not a threat. Muslims are. ANd the Muslims are not demonised a dn feared for no reason. It can't just be the 'media'. It has very much to do with what muslims themselves do and say.

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Mebbe it's because the jews never told the queen and her governemnt to convert or burn in hell or that the jews are there to take over and make Britain a Zionist entity.

That's right, because according to the oh so merciful Jewish doctrine she's a filthy goy that can never become a Jew anyway.... And even if she tried, they'd place obstacles in her way, since they treat salvation as they treat money, from a position of greed.


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The jews are not a threat. Muslims are.

The Jews were a threat about a century or so ago, they've already taken over... Horse has bolted there, so I guess you'll just try and slam the gate shut in some other poor unsuspecting religion's face (ie. the Muslims).

abu_rashid wrote on Oct 24^th, 2009 at 3:51pm:

Quote: Mebbe it's because the jews never told the queen and her governemnt to convert or burn in hell or that the jews are there to take over and make Britain a Zionist entity. That's right, because according to the oh so merciful Jewish doctrine she's a filthy goy that can never become a Jew anyway.... And even if she tried, they'd place obstacles in her way, since they treat salvation as they treat money, from a position of greed.

She does NOT want become a jew. You see, there's the rub, right there. SHe's happy, the jews are happy.

Not so with you lot. She doesn't want to be a Muslim but that ain't good enough for you.



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The jews are not a threat. Muslims are.

The Jews were a threat about a century or so ago, they've already taken over... Horse has bolted there, so I guess you'll just try and slam the gate shut in some other poor unsuspecting religion's face (ie. the Muslims).[/quote]

This is incoherent. The jews have bolted, left the enclosure, but closed the gate in the face of the muslims who now can't get in?  Get in where? They are bloody everywhere?
This is what happens when idiocy takes away your mind - your scrambled thought are showing:

Poor muslim, victims of conspiracy again, " nobody likes us, everybody hates us", and it's always the jews' fault and the world is blind to it.