Palestinians attacked in West Bank settler rampage

By Middle East correspondent Anne Barker (The Aussie reporter who recently got sit rained on her by protesting Jews)

Jewish settlers in the West Bank have gone on a rampage, attacking Palestinians and stoning cars in protest against Israeli moves to dismantle an illegal outpost.

About 30 Israeli settlers set fire to fields and olive trees and stoned Palestinian cars as part of a protest against Israel's decision to remove an unauthorised Jewish settlement.

Two Palestinians were hurt and one settler has been arrested.

Israel has promised the US it will remove about 20 small, illegal outposts in the West Bank.

But hardline settlers typically put up a fight when the army moves in, attacking Palestinians or their property in a tactic they call the "price tag phenomenon" designed to distract the army away from settlers and remind Israel of the cost of forcing them out.

Source: ABC

UMMMHH!!! and this proves what?

The Israelis made a decision, some did not like it, they protested violently, they were punished.

Seems fair enough, and consistent with what a legitimate government should do.

2 "Palestinians" were hurt...  what?  paper cut?  hit with a rock?
A whole 2...  quick call hamas for another barage of rockets and suicide bombers.

mozzaok,


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UMMMHH!!! and this proves what?

Does it have to 'prove' anything? This is the 'extremism exposed' forum, and this is extreme behaviour. Nothing to prove, nothing proved.

Actually something is proved by it though with the responses thus far. That most here are just pathetic little Zionist lackeys who can't help but defend/normalise any/every action carried out by their Zionist mates, whilst simultaneously jumping up and down everytime a Muslim breathes in the wrong direction.

Grendel,


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2 "Palestinians" were hurt...  what?  paper cut?  hit with a rock?

Funny.. if Palestinians throw rocks they're terrorists and deserve to have their water supply cut off, their apartments flattened and their children slaughtered in the streets where they play.

You truly are the epitomy of hypocrisy.

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That most here are just pathetic little Zionist lackeys who can't help but defend/normalise any/every action carried out by their Zionist mates, whilst simultaneously jumping up and down everytime a Muslim breathes in the wrong direction.

It's good being a Zionist Lackey, you get your own Yiddish Decoder Ring.

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 21^st, 2009 at 8:31pm:

... Funny.. if Palestinians throw rocks they're terrorists and deserve to have their water supply cut off, their apartments flattened and their children slaughtered in the streets where they play. You truly are the epitomy of hypocrisy.

According to article supplied by you Jews are evicted from their homes by IDF. When the same happens to muslims you start throwing tantrums.
You truly are the epitomy of hypocrisy, abu.

Calanen wrote on Jul 21^st, 2009 at 8:32pm:

Quote: That most here are just pathetic little Zionist lackeys who can't help but defend/normalise any/every action carried out by their Zionist mates, whilst simultaneously jumping up and down everytime a Muslim breathes in the wrong direction. It's good being a Zionist Lackey, you get your own Yiddish Decoder Ring.

It is even better to be a Zionist. When you are a Zionist islamics start to ban you from their boards and while doing so shoot themselves in their feet. It is a good clean fun to see them screaming while mutilating themselves  ;D

I've never called a "Palestinian" throwing rocks a terrorist...  I call it stupid.

In fact I cant recall anyone but you suggesting it.

Grendel wrote on Jul 21^st, 2009 at 9:16pm:

I've never called a "Palestinian" throwing rocks a terrorist...  I call it stupid. In fact I cant recall anyone but you suggesting it.

Problem is they don't stick to throwing rocks. They've done a lot of other things too.

Calanen wrote on Jul 21^st, 2009 at 9:32pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 21st, 2009 at 9:16pm: I've never called a "Palestinian" throwing rocks a terrorist...  I call it stupid. In fact I cant recall anyone but you suggesting it. Problem is they don't stick to throwing rocks. They've done a lot of other things too.

Can you blame them? The Israeli government is doing nothing to stop Jewish settlers encroaching on the Palestinians. Are the Palestinians supposed to watch on silently while Jewish settlers steal what little land they have left?.

Talk about zealotry and greed. Some Israelis are announcing that the West Bank is the centre of Israel and we're taught to believe that only Muslims are extremists.


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THEIR portable home is shining white, like a new refrigerator lying on its side. Despite all the recent talk of a freeze on settlement construction in the West Bank, Michal Chayat and her husband Matanya have moved into Kida in the past two weeks. Already they are expanding. Matanya has added a pine deck. Theirs is one of 35 portable homes, plain white boxes sitting on concrete pylons, divided by strips of freshly laid asphalt, looking east towards the Jordan Valley. The landscape around Kida, a tiny illegal outpost in the occupied West Bank, is rocky and fertile, with untamed hills of heather and thistle divided by neat vineyards. In this area, which religious Jews refer to by its ancient name of Samaria, sage grows wild and residents say that you can smell the Torah. ''When Israelis ask me where I live I tell them I live in the centre of Israel,'' says Tzofia Dorot, 30, the daughter of a Chicago-born rabbi. Dorot is a settler, one of the supposedly rogue Israeli extremists whom the US Government and world opinion have defined as a big obstacle to peace in the Middle East. But there are settlers and settlers. ''We are always under threat here,'' Haim says. Adamantly opposed to giving up territory that is at the heart of Jewish history, Haim Ya'acobi denies any Palestinian right to the land of the West Bank. To Haim the idea of a pre-existing Palestinian nation is not supported by history. ''They [the Palestinians in the West Bank] belong in Jordan,'' he says. About 30 kilometres north of Kida a cluster of Jewish settlements has grown to form a ring around the Palestinian city of Nablus. These settlers are known for their fanaticism, and for launching repeated attacks on nearby Palestinian villagers and their crops. Built into the side of Mount Gerizim is an illegal outpost known as Brakha B, an offshoot of Brakha, the parent settlement that sits at the top of the mountain. Untidy, almost squalid, Brakha B emits an aggressive intensity. The people who live here are openly hostile. Journalists are chased away, more often than not, their cars pelted with rocks. At 32, he has five children, and his wife Michaela is pregnant with their sixth. Such is his relaxed appearance that Ben Shakhar could be mistaken for a hippie were it not for his belligerent views. His is a triangular culture that admits no outsiders. ''It is between me, God, and the land of Israel. There is nothing else,'' Shakhar says. When it comes to the issue of the state of Israel dismantling outposts such as Brakha B to make way for a Palestinian state, Shakhar talks about the price that will be paid. For every settler's home that is demolished, Shakhar says, the settlers will respond by randomly attacking Palestinians and destroying their property. He was involved in one such revenge attack last week, when he and groups of settlers ''beat up some Arabs'' at the nearby Itamar junction. Asked about settler attacks on nearby Palestinian villagers, Shakhar shrugs his shoulders. ''So what? I don't want peace. We are fighting a war.'' http://www.smh.com.au/world/unveiled-life-at-the-heart-of-conflict-20090828-f2j5.html?page=2

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 21^st, 2009 at 8:31pm:

mozzaok, Quote: UMMMHH!!! and this proves what? Does it have to 'prove' anything? This is the 'extremism exposed' forum, and this is extreme behaviour. Nothing to prove, nothing proved. Actually something is proved by it though with the responses thus far. That most here are just pathetic little Zionist lackeys who can't help but defend/normalise any/every action carried out by their Zionist mates, whilst simultaneously jumping up and down everytime a Muslim breathes in the wrong direction.

You want to make it sound as if Zionism was a bad thing in itself. It is not. It is a perfectly legitimate idea that the jews should have their own  country back.  It may be bad luck for the Arabs who sqatted there for a while but the jewish claim to the place pre-dates any other existing nation's or people's. Compared to the link of jews to Israel, almost every other nation between the Atlantic Ocean and Persia is a blow-in on its current territory.
I can only think of the Greeks who might equal the strength of the jewish claim to the particular area they call their own country. The Arabs have a legitimate claim along the same lines to Araby. But outside Araby, they are conquerors and have no comparable claim to the jews or the greeks. Even the Crusaders had far more right to claim the Levant than the Arabs.

The palestinian Arabs in particular, not ever being a nation in any sense, have no national claim to a non-existent country, 'Palestine'.

So Zionism is at least as legitimate an idea as the Arab claim to Araby. Certainly not less. Be glad the jews don't also want their towns and villages back in Araby itself.

Calanen wrote on Jul 21^st, 2009 at 8:32pm:

Quote: That most here are just pathetic little Zionist lackeys who can't help but defend/normalise any/every action carried out by their Zionist mates, whilst simultaneously jumping up and down everytime a Muslim breathes in the wrong direction. It's good being a Zionist Lackey, you get your own Yiddish Decoder Ring.

LOL

They come in various colours, mine is a blue one!

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You want to make it sound as if Zionism was a bad thing in itself.

It is a very bad thing. It is no different than Nazism or any other nationalist socialism.


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It may be bad luck for the Arabs who sqatted there for a while

The Caliphate ruled the land longer than both Jewish kingdoms combined.


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but the jewish claim to the place pre-dates any other existing nation's or people's

Many of the Palestinian Arabs have genetic markers which place them there long before the arrival of Islam, so no you can't definitively claim it predates any other. Anyway existing in a land before someone else means nothing. If it did, we'd all be fighting over other land which we haven't lived in for thousands of years. There's no 'spot minding' in this world. 2000 years out of a land means dispossession, finished. Otherwise, the 500 years Muslims have been out of their 700 year long homeland of Andalus would mean we should form a "Zionist-style" movement to mass immigrate illegally into Spain and turn it back into a Muslim state.

Be careful of what you're opening up here, because you might not like the results of it.


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Compared to the link of jews to Israel, almost every other nation between the Atlantic Ocean and Persia is a blow-in on its current territory.

The Egyptians have been in their land for at least a good 6000 years... I think you need to go back to school and study a little history and geography. Some theories also suggest that almost all nations of the Middle East arose out of Arabia, which has been inhabited by Arabs for thousands upon thousands of years. Arabic seems to be the closest language to proto-Semitic, so there's a good chance that Hebrews were just Arabs who migrated north into Canaan anyway. The Bible certainly seems to suggest something along those lines.


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Even the Crusaders had far more right to claim the Levant than the Arabs.

Modern Arabs have been in the Levant in large numbers since the time of the Ghassanid migrations and the Nabateans, that's about 2500 years or about 3000 years if we count from the first mention of Arabs there, King Gindibu of Damascus was an Arab who ruled Damascus around 850 B.C. If you can show any other people who've spent 2500-3000 years in the Levant, then you might have a point. Otherwise you're just speaking garbage.

Besides, the Crusaders were clearly not even Semitic peoples, and therefore are quite obviously foreign invaders in the Semitic lands of the Middle East. The Middle East has been Semitic for at least a good 5000-6000 years. Kind of like Arabs claiming they have more right to Andalus because they pre-date the Latin-speaking Catholics there (the pre-Islamic inhabitants of the Iberian peninsula were Goths, not Latin/Catholics).

Soo, what's it all about, Sonny Jim,  race or creed? As ever, you are jumping in and out, hoping nobody notices.

As for Spain, you are doing precisely what you pretend you are not doing - migrating into non-Mulsim territory with the intention to take them over. Ghaddafi said that much himself.

Being in every way backward no-hopers, Muslims are now trying to conquer by exploiting the non-discriminatory, multicultural immigration policies of infidels in Europe, North America and Australia.

Soren wrote on Aug 29^th, 2009 at 6:41pm:

Soo, what's it all about, Sonny Jim,  race or creed? As ever, you are jumping in and out, hoping nobody notices. As for Spain, you are doing precisely what you pretend you are not doing - migrating into non-Mulsim territory with the intention to take them over. Ghaddafi said that much himself. Being in every way backward no-hopers, Muslims are now trying to conquer by exploiting the non-discriminatory, multicultural immigration policies of infidels in Europe, North America and Australia.

soren,

So few words, so well said.




Europe must 'erupt', sooner, or later.

There are still many good people in Europe, many of them are coming to clearly see what ISLAM is, what it represents, and many are beginning to see through ISLAM's/moslems 'snake in grass' ways.

The people of Europe will revolt, against ISLAM, and even against their governments, if necessary.