Has there ever been a righteous nation in the world?

And today, is there any nation in the world, with a near righteous justice system?

Or has there ever been a nation, with a near righteous justice system?




"Sentencing Remarks, Shoebomber Richard Reid"

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 8^th, 2009 at 10:40pm:

Yadda wrote on Jul 8th, 2009 at 9:16am: helian, LOL Touche', in pointing out that apparent, and real, inconsistency. But William Young, the person who spoke those words, is not a slimy U.S. politician. William Young, is a US District Court Judge. Sure, Reid is an evil little insect... But the judge was using the bench as a pulpit... and having a little self-righteous wank.

Is there a nation in the world with a justice system which serves and protects the victims of crime, by punishing [deterring] criminals?

Perhaps a state like China?

Myself, i would disallow a state like China [and label it as an un-righteous nation], because although convicted criminals are often harshly dealt with, the Chinese model seems to protect the blatant corruption of many communist party apparatchiks, and their close family members, whereas, any 'lower-downs' miscreants will often 'get it in the neck'.

There are many examples from China [of today], of injustices suffered, by the weakest members of that society.





Is the hope of a human political utopia just an unrealistic dream?

And if it is so, Why so?



I remember someone once suggesting that,

In human history, the measure of greatness of a people, or a nation, or a political system, should not only be in how powerful that nation became, but it should also be, the measure, of how the weakest members in that society were treated [by the 'state' itself].
And whether these weakest members of that society, were afforded the same rights and protection of its laws, as its most powerful citizens.




Many humanists today like to suggest, that each year, humanity is evolving to a better, and better, state.

And that soon, all injustices in this world could be a thing of the past.

But is that hope, just an unrealistic dream?


Dictionary,
humanism = = a rationalistic outlook or system of thought attaching prime importance to human rather than divine or supernatural matters.







Just look at the corruption and cronyism that is rife, in that pinnacle of human endeavour, which seeks to bring a utopia on Earth, to all of us humans,
....the United Nations.

Google,
"United Nations" corruption cronyism
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=%22United+Nations%22+corruption+cronyism&btnG=Google+Search&meta=&aq=f&oq=

In Australia judges try too hard to find excuses why somebody committed a crime.

If anything that person should be punished and also whoever was responsible for that person’s behaviour be it parent, friends or whoever.

Utopia needs people working together, not against each other and we cannot apply one side of righteous state toward citizens and not expect reciprocal behaviour from citizens.

It must work both ways, otherwise it will crumble.

Happy wrote on Jul 9^th, 2009 at 12:41pm:

In Australia judges try too hard to find excuses why somebody committed a crime. If anything that person should be punished and also whoever was responsible for that person’s behaviour be it parent, friends or whoever. Utopia needs people working together, not against each other and we cannot apply one side of righteous state toward citizens and not expect reciprocal behaviour from citizens. It must work both ways, otherwise it will crumble.

happy,

I agree with you.

A 'justice system' won't work, unless it includes a measure of actual justice, in that 'system'.

Actual justice, for the victims of crime, especially.

A 'justice system' without a measure of actual justice, will merely evolve into an [actual] anarchy, where non-one in society has respect for law.