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During the 1980s, when Russian troops occupied Afghanistan, the USA's Central Intelligence Agency was sending arms and war material to the Afghani Mujahideen. The CIA also provided military training and logistical support to the Afghani Mujahideen. US arms dealers, CIA agents, and covert US military Special Operations troops were deeply involved in assisting the Afghan resistance to Russian occupation. The Stinger shoulder-launched anti-aircraft missiles which the USA gave to the Mujahideen enabled the Mujahideen to turn the tide of battle and to eventually defeat and expel the Russian Army from Afghanistan.

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Afghanistan is a major opium-growing center, and during the Russian/Afghan conflict, heroin trafficking out of Afghanistan became a major enterprise for the CIA, which used its own fleet of difficult-to- trace aircraft to ship the drug into Europe. When I was in New Delhi in 1980, I met young Afghans who were eager to sell heroin and AK-47 automatic assault rifles to almost anyone, including random tourists.

http://english.pravda.ru/world/asia/01-12-2008/106767-al_qaeda-0

It's Air America. The USA is trying to get their hands on the drugs. Oil, tobacco, pharma and guns aren't enough. They want drugs for their global domination bullshit too.

bugger America.

so us helped afghanistan repel russia when they were swarming into other countries ?

And afghans now sell drugs and arms to anyone and everyone.

So, afghans are bad.
thanks for that easel

No, Al-Qaeda are bad you xenophobe.

Did you know that the USA used to arm the Vietcong and other communist terrorists during the Cold War and then go and fight them?

It was under CIA operational codename Forecourt/Courtfour.

That's ultra top secret. You'll probably never read about that publicly acknowledged anywhere.

The US military and intelligence networks are run by evil people in the pursuit of corporate greed, not freedom.

in my books, people who smuggle drugs and arms are bad.

so you know "ultra top secret" military info !!!!!!


sounds like you have a hate list for the US and don't take a balanced view.

"....... the land of the free and the home of the brave......."

I take a balanced view.

I have insider information you could only dream of.

If people who smuggle arms and drugs are bad, by your own admission, the USA is bad.

Hmm. Not likely. The CIA did try to get Vietcong to defect. That may have led to the transfer of money:

http://www.foia.cia.gov/browse_docs.asp?doc_no=0000499930

And certainly the ARVN were often corrupt and sold weapons to the Vietcong and NVA. But the CIA financing the Viet Cong? Can't say I'm sold on that idea.

easel - hahha, you have inder info I could only dream of ??
How do you know what I dream of?

By posing anywhere your IP and ID is known to anyone who wants to know

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's Air America. The USA is trying to get their hands on the drugs. Oil, tobacco, pharma and guns aren't enough. They want drugs for their global domination bullshit too. bugger America.

Totally ignorant, inane and stupid statement.

The CIA have and did supply arms to the 'enemy' in South East Asia. Their rationale was 'everyone else is doing it'. They still continue to do things like that to this day. It's about $$$.

You will hear reports of the AK-47's in the Vietnam war and surrounding countries during that time of being crap inferior articles thanks to the Chinese.

That's not true. Chinese AK-47's were well made.

They were made somewhere else.

Perhaps America?

Sprint, I know that posting anywhere my IP is available. I also know that I am using wireless internet from a company I have never worked for.

Grendel you are wrong.

Easel, what you are saying is just nuts on so many levels, and you are saying it without a shred of evidence.

I know its trendy to do revisionist history now, say FDR really was a plant of the Third Reich and the Kaiser actually  was a disgruntled american candidate who ran for the United States Senate and then had plastic surgery, going back to Germany to start the First Wold War - but Occams Razor is the best solution to these problems.

The CIA fought a war for the Americans, and eventually, it lost because it went on for longer than a democracy could put up with. That's all.

The Chinese AK-47's used by the Viet Cong were well made.

Too well made, to be Chinese.

So perhaps the 'Chinese' AK-47's were made in America?

And these AK-47's were then supplied to the Viet Cong, .......by the USA???



OK, i'll bite.

Why?

Calanen wrote on Apr 6^th, 2009 at 1:59pm:

Easel, what you are saying is just nuts on so many levels, and you are saying it without a shred of evidence. I know its trendy to do revisionist history now, say FDR really was a plant of the Third Reich and the Kaiser actually  was a disgruntled american candidate who ran for the United States Senate and then had plastic surgery, going back to Germany to start the First Wold War - but Occams Razor is the best solution to these problems. The CIA fought a war for the Americans, and eventually, it lost because it went on for longer than a democracy could put up with. That's all.

It was a war about money, as they usually are. America does not get involved in wars that are genuinely about freedom, it always has economic undertones.

The CIA were arming the 'bad guys' in Cambodia also, before the Vietnam war even officially started under codename Forecourt/Caughtfour. It is about money.

You don't believe something as easy to believe as that because it isn't yet declassified? What about Air America? With the CIA working with bringing heroin to the west on a wide scale? What about the CIA working with Nazi scientists after WW2 conducting wide scale experiments on unwitting human subjects? You believe that because it is declassified right? But them selling guns to the 'enemy' you find hard to believe?  :o

If it was about freedom, why were small weak countries attacked by the USA in Asia and South America, and members of 'Treaty of Friendship, Cooperation and Mutual Assistance' were left alone? It was never about that.

The USSR had a policy of supplying arms to wars of liberation wherever they occur around the world. They never asked for drugs or resources in return.


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The Chinese AK-47's used by the Viet Cong were well made. Too well made, to be Chinese. So perhaps the 'Chinese' AK-47's were made in America? And these AK-47's were then supplied to the Viet Cong, .......by the USA??? OK, i'll bite. Why?

Chinese AK's were well made, often with Russian equipment given to China. A lot of the AK's were crap during the war. They weren't Chinese or Russian made. They were reverse engineered in America, and were crap. They looked the same but the manufacturing was different as were materials. America was just in the market for money.

The AK-47 was a superior weapon to the weapons issued to US forces.

The AK-47 would shoot through trees, whereas the m16 wouldn't, due to ammunition. Much better weapon. Cheaper too.

The sadistic Americans also design their small arms to wound not kill.

easel wrote on Apr 4^th, 2009 at 8:11pm:

[quote] http://english.pravda.ru/world/asia/01-12-2008/106767-al_qaeda-0 It's Air America. The USA is trying to get their hands on the drugs. Oil, tobacco, pharma and guns aren't enough. They want drugs for their global domination bullshit too. bugger America.

You are getting your bearings from an oline tabloid called, in the great russki doublespeak tradition,  Truth, Pravda. Written by the 'associates' of the old commie Pravda. What an ass.

ah no easel...  I'm not wrong.

Was this the same easel that was asking about anti-psychotic meds in another thread?

In any event - easel - some evidence please. Any one of us can say we have classified super secret men in black info that means Obama is an alien. But its the internetz. So that doesnt count.

Calanen wrote on Apr 7^th, 2009 at 10:01pm:

Was this the same easel that was asking about anti-psychotic meds in another thread? In any event - easel - some evidence please. Any one of us can say we have classified super secret men in black info that means Obama is an alien. But its the internetz. So that doesnt count.

Is this the same Calanen that thinks airport security should be armed with "machine guns"?

I know what I know.

Where am I going to get information that is highly classified in format where I can publish it online? It's not going to happen.

You don't have to believe it. You can also continue believing that airport security should be armed with machine guns.

You can also falsely claim that all outlaw motorcycle gangs are infiltrated by Muslims/Lebanese, however, talking to people today and on Sunday who are sort of involved in that area (outlaw motorcycle gangs), I am inclined to think you talk a hell of a lot of crap and that most gangs hate Muslims and Lebanese.

Calanen wrote on Apr 7^th, 2009 at 10:01pm:

Was this the same easel that was asking about anti-psychotic meds in another thread? In any event - easel - some evidence please. Any one of us can say we have classified super secret men in black info that means Obama is an alien. But its the internetz. So that doesnt count.

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Is this the same Calanen that thinks airport security should be armed with "machine guns"?

I wish I could take credit for it being my idea, but, alas and unhappily, I have to say that some other countries thought of having automatic weapons at airports even before I did. Given that the terrorists would have automatic weapons, it becomes a revolutionary concept that we could similarly arm our own security forces.

London Heathrow:

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/2370/heathrow.jpg

New York, JFK Airport:

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/3008/jfkairport.jpg

Seoul International Airport, Korea:

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/4306/korea.jpg

Pearson International Airport, Canada.

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/9435/canadapearsonairport.jpg

So having machine guns at the airport, or autos, has been done just about EVERYWHERE else except in wussland Australia, because it makes sense.


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I know what I know.

That's not very convincing. Not even one person on the internetz anywhere, has any evidence to support your theory?  

Do you know the difference between a machine gun and a submachine gun? A submachine gun is essentially an automatic pistol with a stock.

It's not theory. It's fact.

Let's rediscuss your claim about bikies and Muslim infiltration now. Where's your evidence? People claiming to be in the know have told me that what you claim is bullshit.

easel wrote on Apr 7^th, 2009 at 11:52pm:

Do you know the difference between a machine gun and a submachine gun? A submachine gun is essentially an automatic pistol with a stock.

I'm not sure that I used the term 'machine gun', I might have, but if I did, it was just shorthand for 'automatic weapon.' Do I really have to say, that I did not mean mount a .50 cal HMG in the terminal?


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It's not theory. It's fact.

Except with the exception of very few pistols (say the Glock 17), automatic pistols, are really only semi-autos. What you said was quite silly. So you are cool with MP5s, but not assault rifles?

That said, if I had to choose what they would be armed with at the airport, I would say M-16s with subsonic ammo. Even if there were just a few in a locker somewhere. I believe that my post about this has been deleted by FDs great forum fubar.


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Let's rediscuss your claim about bikies and Muslim infiltration now. Where's your evidence? People claiming to be in the know have told me that what you claim is bullshit.

That's good. I'm glad. You can forward your claim on to Police Headquarters, Surry Hills, Sydney, and I am sure they will re-write their intelligence briefs accordingly.

So now you are talking about guns with assumed knowledge are you?

The Glock 17 is just a standard 9mm pistol. I think it is the Glock 18 with compensator that is a full automatic. Correct me if I am wrong.

Those photos appear to show police armed mainly with submachine guns.

You used the term machine gun.

Why would they bother with M-16's with subsonics?

Are you aware of the capabilities of AFP these days? I think not.

When I wrote theory not fact, I was referring to the CIA arming the 'enemy'.

Are you alright Calanen? Your writing style is quite unlike that of previous posts going back a while.

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Are you aware of the capabilities of AFP these days? I think not.

I think I am.  They certainly do not have automatic weapons at the airport, because the Chief asked for them. I just think they should have them, and most of the heads of security at other airports around the world agree with me.

You are right it's the Glock 18. Typo late at night.

You used the term 'machine gun', it's rare that I would, I normally say 'automatic weapons'.  We cant know for sure though now, can we, as my post has been deleted. If I did, I apologise, and if I said machine gun, I meant:

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/6329/m16a1m16a2m4m16a45wi.jpg

and not:

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/5696/machinegunm21.jpg

You don't know what they have. You know what false flags are right? Wonder if you know what weaponry AFP have deployed with overseas...

I actually assumed you were referring to automatic rifles before you even mentioned subsonic m-16's in a previous post.

Regardless....

I have reliably heard that most outlaw motorcycle gangs hate Muslims. You claim otherwise. I have heard it from people who seem to be in the know. You claim it as fact that they are infiltrated.

I can't really lend any further credibility to you. Judging by the writing style I am not even sure this is the same Calanen I have corresponded with in the past.

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I have reliably heard that most outlaw motorcycle gangs hate Muslims. You claim otherwise. I have heard it from people who seem to be in the know. You claim it as fact that they are infiltrated.

They might hate Muslims, but they certainly encouraged Arabs of all persuasions to join their gangs originally because of their brawn, impulsiveness and disregard of Australian Law.  Are there Muslims in these gangs anyway - you would assume drug dealing would be limited to atheists only.

It's too late for them now to whinge that they don't like the blokes from the ME because they've taken control of their precious gangs.  

easel wrote on Apr 6^th, 2009 at 5:00pm:

... The USSR had a policy of supplying arms to wars of liberation wherever they occur around the world. They never asked for drugs or resources in return. Quote: The Chinese AK-47's used by the Viet Cong were well made. Too well made, to be Chinese. So perhaps the 'Chinese' AK-47's were made in America? And these AK-47's were then supplied to the Viet Cong, .......by the USA??? OK, i'll bite. Why? Chinese AK's were well made, often with Russian equipment given to China. A lot of the AK's were crap during the war. They weren't Chinese or Russian made. They were reverse engineered in America, and were crap. They looked the same but the manufacturing was different as were materials. America was just in the market for money. The AK-47 was a superior weapon to the weapons issued to US forces. The AK-47 would shoot through trees, whereas the m16 wouldn't, due to ammunition. Much better weapon. Cheaper too. The sadistic Americans also design their small arms to wound not kill.

USSR asked for land for its military bases instead. Does Cam Ranh Bay and Lourdes ring the bell?

AK47 made in China were crap because soviets never gave them the alloy formula for barrel metal as they had their own little war with China over Chinese territorial demands and had shot quiet few Chinese with their AKs while Chinese AKs were staffed after short but furious use.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhenbao_Island
http://www.russiatoday.ru/Politics/2009-03-12/A_small_war_that_mattered___40_years_since_the_Damansky_Island_tragedy_.html

mantra wrote on Apr 8^th, 2009 at 10:07am:

Quote: I have reliably heard that most outlaw motorcycle gangs hate Muslims. You claim otherwise. I have heard it from people who seem to be in the know. You claim it as fact that they are infiltrated. They might hate Muslims, but they certainly encouraged Arabs of all persuasions to join their gangs originally because of their brawn, impulsiveness and disregard of Australian Law.  Are there Muslims in these gangs anyway - you would assume drug dealing would be limited to atheists only. It's too late for them now to whinge that they don't like the blokes from the ME because they've taken control of their precious gangs.

Impulsiveness, maybe. Brawn, no. There are very few naturally brawny middle easterners. They are not genetically predisposed to it. I've actually found most middle easterners to be extremely timid when not in large groups with a pack mentality. So perhaps not so impulsive either, just thuggish.

Where are you getting your information? I remember a recent post where you were asking questions about Arab influence in Sydney criminal circles. I think you are a mushroom, fed on sh*t and kept in the dark.

Muslims haven't got control of anything. They are vastly outnumbered by non-Muslims. You can be Arab without being Muslim.

tallowood wrote on Apr 8^th, 2009 at 12:46pm:

easel wrote on Apr 6th, 2009 at 5:00pm: ... The USSR had a policy of supplying arms to wars of liberation wherever they occur around the world. They never asked for drugs or resources in return. Quote: The Chinese AK-47's used by the Viet Cong were well made. Too well made, to be Chinese. So perhaps the 'Chinese' AK-47's were made in America? And these AK-47's were then supplied to the Viet Cong, .......by the USA??? OK, i'll bite. Why? Chinese AK's were well made, often with Russian equipment given to China. A lot of the AK's were crap during the war. They weren't Chinese or Russian made. They were reverse engineered in America, and were crap. They looked the same but the manufacturing was different as were materials. America was just in the market for money. The AK-47 was a superior weapon to the weapons issued to US forces. The AK-47 would shoot through trees, whereas the m16 wouldn't, due to ammunition. Much better weapon. Cheaper too. The sadistic Americans also design their small arms to wound not kill. USSR asked for land for its military bases instead. Does Cam Ranh Bay and Lourdes ring the bell? AK47 made in China were crap because soviets never gave them the alloy formula for barrel metal as they had their own little war with China over Chinese territorial demands and had shot quiet few Chinese with their AKs while Chinese AKs were staffed after short but furious use. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhenbao_Island http://www.russiatoday.ru/Politics/2009-03-12/A_small_war_that_mattered___40_years_since_the_Damansky_Island_tragedy_.html

Internet tells me that Cam Ranh Bay became a Soviet base after the war, and that it was only on a 25 year lease, which didn't even last that long.

Russia was providing material to the North Vietnamese who then got paranoid and decided to not work with them, taking Chicom supplies.

A lot of the weaponry was American made.

The Americans also had a policy of infiltrating arms caches and putting HE ammunition in brass loaded in to magazines. This would cause the whole weapon to explode when the HE ammunition was encountered, giving the impression to NVA/VC forces that the Chicom weapons were crap, when in fact they were sabotaged.

Are you familiar with the Gulf of Tonkin incident? The Americans lied in order to get involved in the war.

easel wrote on Apr 8^th, 2009 at 12:37am:

You don't know what they have.

They have 9mm pistols at the airport. They have a heavier weapons team that can be deployed but they don't live at the airport.

The chief executive of the airport presumably would not have asked for auto weapons if they already had them.


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You know what false flags are right? Wonder if you know what weaponry AFP have deployed with overseas...

I've never asked. It would not be hard to find out, they usually tell us.


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I actually assumed you were referring to automatic rifles before you even mentioned subsonic m-16's in a previous post.

Regardless....


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I have reliably heard that most outlaw motorcycle gangs hate Muslims. You claim otherwise. I have heard it from people who seem to be in the know. You claim it as fact that they are infiltrated.

Well that doesn't make a lot of sense if there are muslims who head certain outlaw motorcycle gangs, and are in them.


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I can't really lend any further credibility to you. Judging by the writing style I am not even sure this is the same Calanen I have corresponded with in the past.

We agree on some things, and disagree on others, no big deal.

Calanen wrote on Apr 8^th, 2009 at 2:07pm:

They have 9mm pistols at the airport. They have a heavier weapons team that can be deployed but they don't live at the airport. The chief executive of the airport presumably would not have asked for auto weapons if they already had them.

Find out what a false flag is. They have more than just 9mm pistols.


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I've never asked. It would not be hard to find out, they usually tell us.

They tell you what they want you to know.


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Well that doesn't make a lot of sense if there are muslims who head certain outlaw motorcycle gangs, and are in them.

I was told Hells Angels and Commanchero's were infiltrated reasonably by Muslims, but that was about it, most people hate them. I also read in the papers that Australian Hells Angels are looking at being shut down by the Americans. Hopefully they do. It doesn't take much for an entire gang minus a few to defect and make the same gang under a different name, or to kill people they find undesirable.  

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Where are you getting your information? I remember a recent post where you were asking questions about Arab influence in Sydney criminal circles. I think you are a mushroom, fed on sh*t and kept in the dark. Muslims haven't got control of anything. They are vastly outnumbered by non-Muslims. You can be Arab without being Muslim.

You're the only idiot talking about Muslims and outlaw gangs.  I said Arabs of all persuasions and questioned whether there were even Muslims in these gangs.  Put your reading glasses on.

easel wrote on Apr 8^th, 2009 at 1:48pm:

tallowood wrote on Apr 8th, 2009 at 12:46pm: easel wrote on Apr 6th, 2009 at 5:00pm: ... The USSR had a policy of supplying arms to wars of liberation wherever they occur around the world. They never asked for drugs or resources in return. Quote: The Chinese AK-47's used by the Viet Cong were well made. Too well made, to be Chinese. So perhaps the 'Chinese' AK-47's were made in America? And these AK-47's were then supplied to the Viet Cong, .......by the USA??? OK, i'll bite. Why? Chinese AK's were well made, often with Russian equipment given to China. A lot of the AK's were crap during the war. They weren't Chinese or Russian made. They were reverse engineered in America, and were crap. They looked the same but the manufacturing was different as were materials. America was just in the market for money. The AK-47 was a superior weapon to the weapons issued to US forces. The AK-47 would shoot through trees, whereas the m16 wouldn't, due to ammunition. Much better weapon. Cheaper too. The sadistic Americans also design their small arms to wound not kill. USSR asked for land for its military bases instead. Does Cam Ranh Bay and Lourdes ring the bell? AK47 made in China were crap because soviets never gave them the alloy formula for barrel metal as they had their own little war with China over Chinese territorial demands and had shot quiet few Chinese with their AKs while Chinese AKs were staffed after short but furious use. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhenbao_Island http://www.russiatoday.ru/Politics/2009-03-12/A_small_war_that_mattered___40_years_since_the_Damansky_Island_tragedy_.html Internet tells me that Cam Ranh Bay became a Soviet base after the war, and that it was only on a 25 year lease, which didn't even last that long. Russia was providing material to the North Vietnamese who then got paranoid and decided to not work with them, taking Chicom supplies. A lot of the weaponry was American made. The Americans also had a policy of infiltrating arms caches and putting HE ammunition in brass loaded in to magazines. This would cause the whole weapon to explode when the HE ammunition was encountered, giving the impression to NVA/VC forces that the Chicom weapons were crap, when in fact they were sabotaged. Are you familiar with the Gulf of Tonkin incident? The Americans lied in order to get involved in the war.

Yes, that's what broke soviets at the end, they were giving to much credit.

As for accidents with AK ammo was more problem then the rifle itself, up to 40% of it used to go bad in high humidity or if immersed in water even for short periods of time. The worth think powder still was working but not enough to push a bullet through the barrel all the way and in fully automatic mode it caused to explode in user's face. That was due to poor quality control during mass production.

easel wrote on Apr 8^th, 2009 at 2:17pm:

Calanen wrote on Apr 8th, 2009 at 2:07pm: They have 9mm pistols at the airport. They have a heavier weapons team that can be deployed but they don't live at the airport. The chief executive of the airport presumably would not have asked for auto weapons if they already had them. Quote: Find out what a false flag is. They have more than just 9mm pistols. I know what 'false flag' is, its the rubbish that airheads like Rosie O'Donnell likes to go on about, ITS THE GULF OF TONKIN PEOPLE!!! If you are saying they do have automatic weapons at the airport and hide them, it's pretty unlikely that the Chief Executive of the Airport, would publicly ask that they get automatic weapons. I am not saying the Feds dont have automatic weapons, They train down at Malabar with them. But they do not, have not, had them at the Airport. [quote]I've never asked. It would not be hard to find out, they usually tell us.

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They tell you what they want you to know.

But you are hooked up? There isn't any evidence to support your position.


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Well that doesn't make a lot of sense if there are muslims who head certain outlaw motorcycle gangs, and are in them.

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I was told Hells Angels and Commanchero's were infiltrated reasonably by Muslims,

The Rebels, Notorious are two others I can think of. How many do you want?

mantra wrote on Apr 8^th, 2009 at 2:52pm:

Quote: Where are you getting your information? I remember a recent post where you were asking questions about Arab influence in Sydney criminal circles. I think you are a mushroom, fed on sh*t and kept in the dark. Muslims haven't got control of anything. They are vastly outnumbered by non-Muslims. You can be Arab without being Muslim. You're the only idiot talking about Muslims and outlaw gangs.  I said Arabs of all persuasions and questioned whether there were even Muslims in these gangs.  Put your reading glasses on.

No when this whole thing flared up you were asking about Lebanese gangs and how you thought they were Christians. Anyway, I don't have reading glasses. I am very slightly myopic.

@tallowood

I think that would be the exception rather than the rule. Americans were sabotaging weapons though.

I also find it hard to believe that the ammunition would allow water in. The bullet is usually very tight against the brass. Primers are pretty tight also.

Americans were sabotaging weapons though and providing crap with false markings on them.

Calanen wrote on Apr 8^th, 2009 at 4:30pm:

I know what 'false flag' is, its the rubbish that airheads like Rosie O'Donnell likes to go on about, ITS THE GULF OF TONKIN PEOPLE!!! If you are saying they do have automatic weapons at the airport and hide them, it's pretty unlikely that the Chief Executive of the Airport, would publicly ask that they get automatic weapons.

Tonkin is proven as a false flag operation. You really think cops don't know how to influence behaviour of their targets?  ::) Solicitors are supposed to be smart! Then again, the writing style is not like that of the Calanen I recall conversing with.


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I am not saying the Feds dont have automatic weapons, They train down at Malabar with them. But they do not, have not, had them at the Airport.

Funny they train under the public eye. You think they don't have their own ranges? You have no idea who have trained them or what equipment they have. Lawyers are supposed to be smart. This doesn't seem like Calanen. You know what false flags are right?


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But you are hooked up? There isn't any evidence to support your position.

Yes there is. Just because you don't have it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Like I wrote, you don't know who they are linked with, you also don't know where they are getting their training, nor do you know what kind of equipment they have.


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The Rebels, Notorious are two others I can think of. How many do you want?

What's your definition of infiltrated? Muslims severely outnumbered by those who hate them? Oh in that case they really have infiltrated!  ;D

All it takes is a few targeted killings and mass defections to a new organisation, and then the Aussies will have no more problems from the muslims.

Short of cash?


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Meanwhile, flamboyant Comancheros boss Mick Hawi has spent another night in custody after being charged on Monday with affray in relation to the Sydney Airport brawl. Mr Hawi, 28, who is said to have a $100,000 bounty on his head, yesterday had a bail application delayed again after new information was given to Sydney's Central Local Court.

He's a muslim right, and bikie gang leader? People are trying to have him killed. Isn't his real name Mahmoud? Yeah, looks like Aussies have had enough of the Muslims.

You should be happy Calanen! Dream come true?

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He's a muslim right, and bikie gang leader? People are trying to have him killed. Isn't his real name Mahmoud? Yeah, looks like Aussies have had enough of the Muslims. You should be happy Calanen! Dream come true?

Do you think I'm happy we've imported a few hundred thousand people that subscribe to a supremacist totalitarian ideology that wants to destroy our society through religious warfare? Goddamit I wish it hadn't happened. But we've done it now, so we'll deal with it.

You used to write about and encourage making violent stands against these people.

Is that how you still think it should be dealt with? Mass killings of Muslims? Surely there is a better way...

easel wrote on Apr 9^th, 2009 at 8:09pm:

You used to write about and encourage making violent stands against these people. Is that how you still think it should be dealt with? Mass killings of Muslims? Surely there is a better way...

I don't think I did.

I certainly would violently confront jihad wherever it was.

I would eliminate muslim immigration. And also, EVERY demand for some special accommodation, treatment, law change for muslims would be a resounding NO!.

Tough government that can contain the Islamic political threat is what is needed. We have weak government, a weak press and a weak people ruled by a weak limp wristed philosophy of standing for nothing, believing in nothing, appeasement, weakness, compromise, 'tolerance' of all manner of evil. Just pathetic. No wonder the muslims laugh at us.

What we need is strong action, strong government, a strong philosophy, a strong people - that know what they believe in and make no apologies for it. The muslims certainly don't make any apologies for their hateful intolerant beliefs - and we should make no apologies for seeking to oppose them.

Not one inch further - a culture of tolerance should be turned into one of zero tolerance with the catch-cry of - 'Enough!'. If Sharia is your thing, move to Saudi Arabia. If Jihad is your thing, move to afghanistan and join the Taliban. If Abu Rashid had any gonads that's what he would do instead of mouthing off over here. He doesn't of course, so he'll just say how great they are in the safety of the country where freedom and liberty is provided by the society he despises.