These bloody sodomising Christians shouldn't be allowed into this country. Who wants to see an end to Christian immigration into this country? Our largest intake is Christians, and look at the kind of crap they inflict upon our nation's children when they get here. If they wanna do this kinda filth, stay in their own countriies and do it there!! End Christian immigration NOW!!!

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A former church leader has been jailed for 18 years for sexually abusing Adelaide boys in the 1970s and 80s.

District Court Judge Gordon Barrett said Andrew William Dawson-Ryan, 60, of Cumberland Park had abused his position of trust over 16 years.

He had been a leader of the Church of England Boys Society at suburban Plympton.

The court heard he assaulted four boys, mostly on youth camps, with one offence believed to have happened interstate.

The boys were given alcohol and cigarettes and Dawson-Ryan kept in touch with their families.

Judge Barrett said the offences had had a profound effect on the victims, one of whom had worried for years that he may have contracted AIDS or a venereal disease.

The judge said Dawson-Ryan had shown little remorse for his actions.

A non-parole term of 10 years has been set.

Dawson-Ryan has filed an appeal against his conviction.

Source: ABC

hey, he has been jailed for it. In a "christian" society.
So, it is not of a christian belief.

check the bible abu.

why did you post this here ?
Not where you have people banned and can control the topic completely ?

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hey, he has been jailed for it. In a "christian" society. So, it is not of a christian belief.

Funny, cos when Muslims do things "not of islamic belief" you seem to think it's fine to accuse all Muslims of it.


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why did you post this here ? Not where you have people banned and can control the topic completely ?

It's nothing to do with Islam, why would I post it in the Islamic forum?

abu,

All this story proves is that our [Christian/secular] society exposes, confronts and condemns such behaviour.

Whereas, in a Sharia jurisdiction, where such behaviour is 'uncovered' it would very rarely be reported, because of the community shame [within muslim society] such behaviour would reflect [upon the community].

And within muslim society, that is what is important, HIDING SHAME.
.....not exposing TRUTH,
.....and not the open reporting of the injustice done to such victims.




So abu, your mocking 'outrage' as a muslim, against Christian society and its 'values', is seen by all for what it is.

Corrupt, fraudulent and hypocritical.

And as a devout muslim abu, you know very well that,
.....hypocrites won't make it to God's 'paradise'.         :'(







The Times
February 05, 2005
Muslim apostates cast out and at risk from faith and family
By Anthony Browne
While Christians who turn to Islam are feted, the 200,000 Muslims who turn away are faced with abuse, violence and even murder
For police, religious authorities and politicians, it is an issue so sensitive that they are accused by victims of refusing to respond to appeals for help.
Page 1
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article510589.ece?token=null&offset=0&page=1


Muslim apostates [UK] threatened over Christianity
11 Dec 2007
Sofia Allam simply could not believe it. Her kind, loving father was sitting in front of her *threatening to kill her*. He said she had brought shame and humiliation on him, that [as a convert to Christianity] she was now "worse than the muck on their shoes" and *she deserved to die*.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1571970/Muslim-apostates-threatened-over-Christianity.html
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article3006561.ece


Father slits daughter's throat [not UK],
http://www.news24.com/News24/World/0,,2-10_1855395,00.html
http://www.thisislocallondon.co.uk/news/topstories/display.var.1296783.0.honourkilling_victims_sister_threatened_for_being_westernised.php
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-462342/Honour-killing-sister-breaks-silence.html




Many young muslim women are being murdered by family members, because they seek to escape the stifling control ISLAM has over their lives [through their families].

And young muslim women in particular are being targeted, because of their vulnerability, and powerlessness.

These young women are being killed, because they are [easy] 'targets of opportunity', within the muslim community.





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THE SHAME OF MUSLIM DAUGHTERS MARRYING 'KUFFAR', IS NOT TO BE TOLERATED WITHIN ISLAM.

ISLAM's highest authority, Allah, in the Koran, instructs muslims not to allow their muslim daughters to engage with Kuffar society, in 'multicultural' tolerance [marriage to unbelievers].....

"Do not marry unbelieving women (idolaters), until they believe: A slave woman who believes is better than an unbelieving woman, even though she allures you. Nor marry (your girls) to unbelievers until they believe: A man slave who believes is better than an unbeliever, even though he allures you. Unbelievers do (but) beckon you to the Fire. But Allah beckons by His Grace to the Garden (of bliss) and forgiveness, and makes His Signs clear to mankind: That they may celebrate His praise."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/002.qmt.html#002.221

Abu - cause at times when muslims do "bad things", they correctly quote from the koran to justify their actions.
And some other muslims agree.
And those quote ARE from the koran.


Whereas this scum does not quote from the bible to justify his child molestation.
And it is not in the bible and I sure don't agree with him.

Abu, do you really think you're getting anywhere by posting these silly, tit for tat stories? Your goal should be reassuring people who you accuse of misunderstanding Islam, but instead you create more hatred and distrust by your constant semantics, finger pointing, deflection, lying by omission, arrogance, bigotry and being a massive hypocrite. What is your objective here? If it's to create a rift between Islam and Australia, then you're doing a very good job. How pleased your god must be.

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All this story proves is that our [Christian/secular] society exposes, confronts and condemns such behaviour.

I think it exposes a bit more than that. Whenever Christians or Westerners do some wicked evil action, or some shocking statistics are shown about their society, you always rush to claim "But all this actually proves is that we're an open society that deals with these things" rather than hushing them up.

Sorry it exposes a lot more.

Well, things like that ARE a crime in western societies AND are not supported by the bible.
As i am aware, no leader supports that sort of thing in western society.

So, what does it expose ??

abu_rashid wrote on Mar 13^th, 2009 at 11:43am:

Quote: All this story proves is that our [Christian/secular] society exposes, confronts and condemns such behaviour. I think it exposes a bit more than that. Whenever Christians or Westerners do some wicked evil action, or some shocking statistics are shown about their society, you always rush to claim "But all this actually proves is that we're an open society that deals with these things" rather than hushing them up. Sorry it exposes a lot more.

abu,

Absolutely correct.

Such behaviour, exposes our nature.



abu,

Q.
Are muslims, human beings, who also have a human nature?

Or are muslims 'perfected' by ISLAM?          ;D      ;D      ;D

"Ye [muslims] are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/003.qmt.html#003.110








abu,

I am not a righteous person.

I fail that description.

And it is the hot place for me!

Except, i'm glad that i have a redeemer.


Dictionary,
redeem = =
1 compensate for the faults or bad aspects of. Ø (redeem oneself) make up for one’s poor past performance or behaviour. Ø save from sin, error, or evil.
2 gain or regain possession of in exchange for payment. Ø Finance repay (a stock, bond, etc.) at the maturity date. Ø exchange (a coupon) for goods or money. Ø clear (a debt).
3 fulfil (a pledge or promise).
4 archaic buy the freedom of.



God has promised to forgive me [to redeem me], if i repent,
....and acknowledge my nature before God.




I am not righteous.

My God, is my righteousness, and my redeemer.






1 John 1:8
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9  If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10  If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.


Jeremiah 23:6
In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.


Psalms 32:1
Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered.
2  Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.