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Message started by abu_rashid on Mar 9th, 2009 at 8:29am

Title: Illinois Pastor shot dead during service
Post by abu_rashid on Mar 9th, 2009 at 8:29am
Surely this headline has to be a mistake? Surely it should read "Cleric shot dead in mosque"???

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Illinois Pastor shot dead during service
Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:49:04 GMT


Pastor Fred Winters was shot and killed during a service.

A gunman has attacked an Illinois church packed with some 150 people, killing a pastor during service, the Maryville Police Department says.

The accident took place on Sunday morning in front of the perplexed parishioners in the First Baptist Church in Maryville, about 30 km (20 miles) northeast of St. Louis, Illinois.

The suicidal attacker walked up one of the aisles at the church and exchanged words with Pastor Fred Winters, who walked over towards him. The suspect then pulled out a .45-caliber pistol and fired one shot, Illinois State police spokesman Ralph Timmens said.

The gunman then pulled out a knife began stabbing himself when the gun jammed, police said.

"Some parishioners tackled him and held him on the floor," Timmens said, AFP reported.

"Two subjects received knife injuries during the restriction of the subject and were treated at hospital."

According to police, there were approximately 150 people in the church at the time of the incident.

Two of those who went after the attacker suffered non-life-threatening injuries, while the suspect's injuries are "very serious," Timmens said.

The Illinois shooting is believed to be the nation's first in a church since July, when a 58-year-old man opened fire in a Knoxville, Tennessee. Two people were killed and six others were wounded in the shooting at Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church.

Source: Press TV

Title: Re: Illinois Pastor shot dead during service
Post by jordan484 on Mar 9th, 2009 at 8:45am

Quote:
Surely this headline has to be a mistake? Surely it should read "Cleric shot dead in mosque"???


Why is that?

Title: Re: Illinois Pastor shot dead during service
Post by abu_rashid on Mar 9th, 2009 at 8:49am

Because people commit violent acts like this because of their religion being a violent evil ideology. And we all know Christianity is a nice peaceful loving ideology. So this incident can't possibly be true.

Title: Re: Illinois Pastor shot dead during service
Post by sprintcyclist on Mar 9th, 2009 at 9:10am

sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.

There is no reason at all why it would be impossible that a pastor could not be shot.

Title: Re: Illinois Pastor shot dead during service
Post by jordan484 on Mar 9th, 2009 at 9:11am
You really are a bitter person aren't you? What does your god think about people such as yourself? Or does your god condone your behaviour and hatred.....that's probably it.

Title: Re: Illinois Pastor shot dead during service
Post by abu_rashid on Mar 9th, 2009 at 9:41am
sprint,

That's right, sometimes people, even religious people, commit crimes, even extreme crimes...

Kind of hypocritical though that when it's Muslims we don't stop hearing about how Islam is to blame, yet when it's Christians, it's just a normal everyday occurence... Nothing to do with Christianity at all, right?

Title: Re: Illinois Pastor shot dead during service
Post by sprintcyclist on Mar 9th, 2009 at 9:45am

we've been throuh this before.

Where in the bible does it say to shoot pastors ?

Title: Re: Illinois Pastor shot dead during service
Post by abu_rashid on Mar 9th, 2009 at 10:15am

I'll show you, just as soon as you show me in the Qur'an where it says to shoot 'clerics'.

Title: Re: Illinois Pastor shot dead during service
Post by jordan484 on Mar 9th, 2009 at 10:16am
Blah blah blah "my religion is better than your religion" carry on, over and over and over.

yawn.

Title: Re: Illinois Pastor shot dead during service
Post by Calanen on Mar 9th, 2009 at 1:17pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 9th, 2009 at 9:10am:
sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.

There is no reason at all why it would be impossible that a pastor could not be shot.


That's ok, Abu is the lowest form of human.

I bet whoever did do it, didn't do it because he said that he was part of a Christian jihad. And even if he did, he would be only one of a handful, not one of millions like Islam.

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