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Really disappointed, though not surprised, nobody has attempted an answer on this one." (c) abu

abu, stop wanking. How can people answer to you if you prevent them to answer in your pet islam board and put your silly question in there?

Now answer my question, which you can if you wish. Is all muslims are hypocrites or is it only you and it have nothing to do with islam?

Note: the default answer is all muslims so if you avoid this question it means that you agree with that.

"They are Arabs, who were resisting a foreign entity in their lands" (c) abu

Islamists know how to push arab women into suicide bombing routine. Arrange them to be raped is one of the ways islamists use, get them drug dependent is another.

tallowood wrote on Mar 1^st, 2009 at 10:02pm:

"They are Arabs, who were resisting a foreign entity in their lands" (c) abu Islamists know how to push arab women into suicide bombing routine. Arrange them to be raped is one of the ways islamists use, get them drug dependent is another.

And mostly killing other Arabs.

That's the most stupid part of it.

I talked to a guy who was a former Republican Guard, served under Saddam. He was a really sensible fellow, and admitted to me, that Islam requires muslims to attack and destroy infidel governments - but he said 'These are the old ways my friend, in the Middle Ages, we now must leave these ways behind, in the desert, and leave infidels in peace. If you come here - you have to agree to have no jihad. If not, go back to Iraq.'

It was good having a chat to him, he had been the secretary to an Iraqi General during the first war, so he knew a lot of confidential stuff, and it was interesting to hear about how hated Saddam was. He said that Uday Hussein had beaten to death one of the Captains in his Division.

He said that the people blowing stuff up in Iraq in the occupation were idiots. He said to me:


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"I talk to a lot of people at home. The people that blow things up, they are the ignorant ones. The stupid ones. The criminals, the gangsters. They say things like 'We will be America's slaves now America is here' But they are ignorant my friend. Why? I tell you. America conquered Japan and Germany in WW2. Are Japanese Americas slaves? Are Germans Americas slaves? No they are among the most powerful countries in the world. If these people stop being idiots, stop destroying things and killing Iraqis, America will rebuild Iraq and make it one of the most powerful countries in the world. Steal the oil? No, America wants to buy the oil. They could have stolen it in the first Gulf War, but they want trade, not to steal. But they cant stop being idiots my friend. An Arab is the best at destroying things, and he is best at destroying his own people and his own society. All throughout the Middle East, you see guns, and death, and explosions and violence. Why? They are ignorant violent people. That's why I move here.

Geez you're full of it, lawboy...

You couldn't just have met a self-loathing Arab.... It had to be an ex Republican Guard... and you couldn't leave it there either... had to be one what worked for a general and all...

How's the big, secret book coming along, lawboy?

NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2009 at 6:40pm:

Geez you're full of it, lawboy... You couldn't just have met a self-loathing Arab.... It had to be an ex Republican Guard... and you couldn't leave it there either... had to be one what worked for a general and all... How's the big, secret book coming along, lawboy?

All soldiers work for Generals, ultimately, don't they? Being on staff for a general is not a big deal. I got the guys email address (I hope I still have it).

Putting that to one side. I have been someone that has been on the internet, for a very, very long time. Right at the beginning. And before that, on the Fido net, when BBSes were connected together.

And in all of that time, much like my offscreen persona, I have been unfailingly honest. People have met me in real life, come up to my office - seen what I do etc.

But in all that time also - no matter WHAT I said I was doing, or what I had done, or what I was going to do, or what I had - no matter how mundane, trivial, or indeed impressive - there was always someone around to say - it didnt happen. Or I don't have that, or I didnt do that.  The pics are fake, you are fake, I saw that on myspace its someone else's......

When I lived in hong kong, I was lying. When I lived in the states, I was lying, and spoofing IPs. I was never a lawyer, or went to law school, the cars I drove were not real. The photos of me were not real. The photos of my girlfriends were not real.

In fact there was never any way, to ever say, that anything was real. Ever. Because whatever I said, was fake, according to someone on the net.

So, helian, you saying that I am not real or lying or whatever or make stuff up - is really, really old. Like 20 years old for me now.

I'll just keep doing what I have always done, which is tell the truth.

Because the real truth is, people are not interested in knowing the truth - they just want to take a cheap shot at me, because they don't like my opinion.

Credibility must be earned, I guess... Something to remember about the book.

So, how's the book coming along?

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NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2009 at 7:33pm:

Credibility must be earned, I guess... Something to remember about the book. So, how's the book coming along?

I guess it depends on where it matters. I'm known for being a pretty straight shooter where it counts.

As to the book, given this Saturday was the first day off I have had (including the whole Xmas period), since August of last year, slowly. I have written about 100 pages. Big files of research however.

My other publishing commitments which have continuous deadlines take priority over it, so between work, and my other paid writing, the book falls down the list.

That said, I have done a lot of research, parts of which you have seen the benefit of on here. Whatever else may be said about me, I am a good student. And what I've uncovered, discovered about Islam - not radical Islam - but regular, ordinary mosque going Islam - scares the hell out of me. And the rest of society needs to know.

As for credibility - it wouldnt matter what credibility I had. The Right might like it, the regular person might like it, the Left will hate it, and Muslims everywhere will demonstrate that Islam is non-violent by trying to kill me.

calanen - contact me when it is finished please.
I will buy a few.


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and Muslims everywhere will demonstrate that Islam is non-violent by trying to kill me.

Is there any other group in the world that threatens that and NOT be jailed/ridiculed ?

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I have been someone that has been on the internet, for a very, very long time. Right at the beginning. And before that, on the Fido net, when BBSes were connected together.... When I lived in hong kong, I was lying. When I lived in the states, I was lying, and spoofing IPs. I was never a lawyer, or went to law school, the cars I drove were not real. The photos of me were not real. The photos of my girlfriends were not real.

So you mean you have a very long history of being regarded as a loser who big notes himself on the 'net?  ;D


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the book falls down the list.

That doesn't sound like you Calanen, I thought you were on a mission to save all Australia from big bad evil Muslim students organisation. Can't be that important if it so casually falls down the list.

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That doesn't sound like you Calanen, I thought you were on a mission to save all Australia from big bad evil Muslim students organisation. Can't be that important if it so casually falls down the list.

Yes all very casual over here.

abu_rashid wrote on Mar 4^th, 2009 at 5:46pm:

So you mean you have a very long history of being regarded as a loser who big notes himself on the 'net?  ;D

How juvenile. Whether you think I am a loser or not, doesn't affect my reality. And whatever I told you my reality was, you'd just say it wasn't true - so why would it matter?

It used to be that only the 'geek's computer programmers and the like were on the net, back in the day. And mostly, they were reasonable people. Unlike the massive amount of R-tards that are on the net now. So if you went on a holiday, you would put up your pics and say, hey went on a great holiday, that's me and my partner or whatever. And so what? Mostly people would react well and say, yeah great scenery, nice girl etc.

But there would always be at least one ebil troll that would say the pics were fake, you were fake, the car was fake, and there was no holiday.

So, I'm less open to 'sharing' these days, it is just not worth the bother. As are most people on the net.

Although, I have made some great friends online, from all around the world, some of whom I have managed to visit in person. A couple I'd trust with my life.

And if that makes me a loser - cool - I'm proud to be one.

Also, as to losers - I was comfortable with who I was born to be. I didn't need to pretend I was an Arab to find friends.

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So, I'm less open to 'sharing' these days, it is just not worth the bother. As are most people on the net.

You seem to do a lot of sharing to me. You shared with us how you're a lawyer, and prize winning author, and a great public speaker etc...


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Also, as to losers - I was comfortable with who I was born to be.

As am I, a servant of my Creator. This transcends any racial/linguistic/cultural baggage you'd like to try and attach to it.

Is 72 become the number because it is divisible by 9or is it golden ratio for breeding suicide bombers?

abu_rashid wrote on Mar 4^th, 2009 at 9:39pm:

So, I'm less open to 'sharing' these days, it is just not worth the bother. As are most people on the net.

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You seem to do a lot of sharing to me. You shared with us how you're a lawyer, and prize winning author, and a great public speaker etc...

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Also, as to losers - I was comfortable with who I was born to be.

And yet..you know absolutely nothing about my life. Not in any detail. Or even to construct a rough approximation.

But why shouldn't people say a bit about themselves where it's relevant? This is a medium of communication after all. The reason is, that trolls like you file it away to refer to it constantly and irrelevantly to attempt to score cheap points in arguments. Which really denigrates everyone's experience on the net.

I never said I was a prize winning author. Just an author.

You really are getting a little obsessed with me and who I am. I think you need to let it go.

You are never going to find out.

The belief that men who die in suicide missions are going to enjoy the  72 virgins in heaven has been disputed on the ground that the old Arabic term hur, has been mistranslated as virgin but actually means white grape. If this is so then suicide bombers look even sillier blowing themselves up for a bunch of grapes.

BTW, is it just a coincidence that hur sounds like whore?

tallow - I have heard that.
Surely any wannabe suicide bomber would check out what is said in the koran himself ?
A sexual reward for murdering infidels is more in keeping with the ways of mohammad and the aims of the koran than some fruit.

It's a pity that so many people have to die to fulfill an infantile schoolboy grade fantasy.

You should hear the imams have a wet dream in their sermons describing the luscious imaginary women waiting for the shahids who dies as martyrs. It would be amusing, except people are dying for it.

"The West treat women as a commodity to be bought and sold and used and abused like pieces of meat. " (c) abu

abu, you are wrong. The crazy sheik from Lakemba is not the West, he is your muslim brother.

This question is for people knowledgeable about islamic literature
Do 72 virgins wear nickers? Is it mentioned in the koran or any hadith?

Seventy Two Virgins sat on a wall,
Seventy Two Virgins had a great fall.
All the genital mutilations, and all the islamic's fatwas
Couldn't made poor women virgins again!

After His Death

After his death, Osama bin Laden went to heaven.

     There he was greeted by George Washington, who proceeded to slap him across his face and yell at him, ''How dare you try to destroy the nation I helped conceive!''

     Patrick Henry approached and punched Osama in the nose and shouted, ''You wanted to end our liberties but you failed.''

     James Madison entered, kicked Osama in the groin, and said, ''This is why I allowed our government to provide for the common defense!''

     Thomas Jefferson came in and proceeded to beat Osama many times with a long cane and said: ''It was evil men like you that provided me the inspiration to pen the Declaration of Independence!''

   These beatings and thrashings continued as John Randolph,
James Monroe, and 66 other early Americans came in and unleashed
their anger on the Muslim terrorist leader.

     As Osama lay bleeding and writhing in unbearable pain, an Angel
appeared.  Bin Laden wept and said to the Angel, ''This is not what you promised me!''

     The Angel replied, ''I told you there would be 72 Virginians waiting for you in heaven.  What did you think I said?''


;D

"What did you think I said?" indeed. Excellent gem of a joke.

Here's a slightly more vulgar expression of the misunderstanding that is Mohammedanism:

A Taliban suicide bomber pulls the plug and... BOOOMM! A short while later he finds himself on a huge white staircase leading towards Heaven, so he starts to climb them. After an hour or so climbing he arrives at a landing where an old man in white robes and a long flowing beard is sitting surrounded by ledgers.

'Excuse me sir he says, are you Mohammed?

'No,' replies the old man I am St Peter, Mohammed is further up the stairs.'

'But this is great news,' exclaims the bomber, 'Mohammed is higher than St Peter I can hardly believe it!'

He continues up the stairs, after another hour of hard climbing he arrives at another landing and standing there is a serene looking man with long hair and a beard.

'Excuse me sir, are you Mohammed?'

'No,' replies the man, 'I am Jesus, Mohammed is further up the stairs.'

'But this is amazing news,' exclaims the bomber, 'Mohammed is even higher than Jesus! Martyrdom is wonderful!'

With this he continues ascending the stairs, after two long hours of hard climbing he arrives on a huge landing, there sitting on a magnificent throne is another old man with flowing white robes, a beard and long white hair.

'Excuse me sir, are you Mohammed?'

'No replies the old man, I am God.'

'But this is incredible news!' screams the bomber, 'Mohammed is even higher than God. I am so excited I cannot believe it, martyrdom is thrilling!'

'You look tired my son,' says God, 'Would you like to sit down and rest a while?'

'Oh yes,' replies the bomber, 'I am very tired and would love to rest before I carry on. Thank you.'

The bomber sits and God says, 'You look thirsty my son, would you like a cup of coffee?

'Oh yes please,' replies the bomber. 'I am most thirsty'

With this, God turns and snaps his fingers and shouts, 'Oy Mohammed! Two coffees over here!'

I have one.

A suicide bomber blows up nearly one hundred infidels, he goes to heaven to find 72 pregnant women and Jim Profit.

And he's like "these are not virgins! They're pregnant!"

And I said

"Yo dog! I heard you like virgins! So I artificialy impregnated these women so you could have virgins in your virgins!"

http://images.starcraftmazter.net/4chan/for_forums/thats_the_joke.jpg

No, that's not the joke. You are the joke, pestilential, pestiferous pest.

no, islams the paedophillic joke

Years ago I saw the girl wearing the t-short with "virgins are useless" printed on it.

that makes it sound far more interesting.. ;)