Looks like those evil Christians are at it again, torturing children for supposedly being witches, and advising parents to throw their 9 month old babies away because they'll bring them misfortune. Especially now we know some influential Christians in Australia believe bushfires are a justified punishment..

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Nigeria: Witchcraft - Akpabio Warns Churches

Okon Bassey

2 December 2008

Lagos — Hard time now await churches and spiritual homes operating in Akwa Ibom State that engage in torturing people mostly children and forcefully compelling them to confess or admit to being party to witchcraft .

The State Governor, Chief Godswill Akpabio, who made the declaration weekend at the maiden annual teachers' award for excellence, a private initiative of Inoyo Toro Foundation, held in Uyo, said reports had it that some churches label innocent children witches and subject them to severe and inhuman conditions including torture.

THISDAY Checks revealed that the state government's stand and action on the churches may not be unconnected with current documentary being shown on a television station in the United Kingdom on how children from the state were tortured by some churches and forced to confess to being witches.

Governor Akpabio, who frowned at such actions and activities of some of the churches and pastors, vowed that the state government will address the development squarely to check the excesses of some of the churches.

He insisted that henceforth, the state government will not hesitate to destroy or demolish any church engaged in any negative and unproven vision in order to satisfy their clients.

"We will destroy and demolish every church that is engaged in any stupid vision in Akwa Ibom State. We will not stop there, we will have to make examples out of some people. We will chase out some churches in the state which are found wanting.

"The churches are busy deceiving people in many aspects including avoiding deaths. We have to do something to re-strengthen the Child Right Law. We must fight against the abuse of children and ensure proper education for them," he said.

"The church will torture children and some of the churches will pretend to use oil to try and remove witchcraft from a child. So far we have we have 165 children some of them are not up to 9 months old who have been thrown away by their parents because the church said those children will bring them misfortune", the Governor lamented.

Source: AllAfrica

Got more to do with African native superstitions than Christianity Abu...  but nice try...  do you really want us to waste our time posting Islamic attrocities, which are based on Islam to refute this crap you keep posting?

While 300,000 Africans have lost their lives to Arab genocide in the past six years, the only Muslim protest has actually been in defence of their killers.

As usual nothing to reply with but "How about we bring some mud on Islam". Well done.

As your buddy Calanen would say: Tu quoque!

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Got more to do with African native superstitions than Christianity Abu.

If Europeans and Americans hadn't spent the past 1500 years burning witches alive (up to 10 million by some accounts) I might be able to accept that argument Mr. Rotflmao. And if England hadn't been prosecuting witches right up until 1944 (even if only with gaol sentences), then yes we could examine the "African native superstitions" issue. But also keep in mind the "African native" religions actually revolve around witchcraft, so that tends to suggest the witch burning ideas are introduced, quite obviously by Christianity, rather than native.

rotflmao at YOU Aboo...

abu_rashid wrote on Feb 12^th, 2009 at 6:14pm:

As usual nothing to reply with but "How about we bring some mud on Islam". Well done. As your buddy Calanen would say: Tu quoque!

As abu said in defence  of Osama: "there's been absolutely no evidence to date presented that conclusively finds him guilty, so about all I'm guilty of is not slandering a potentially innocent man. I can live with that." (c) abu

But can he live equally comfortably with accusing  some Africans of something that has not been absolutely proved to date?
Yes he can. Muslim double think makes it possible.

From Angola...


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Angola was recently shaken by terrible news of abandoned, ill-treated, tortured and killed children accused of witchcraft. One of the recent cases was in the municipality of Sambizanga in Luanda. According to local newspapers, the National Police rescued dozens of children who were locked inside a room where a bonfire was lit burning jindungo (a type of chilli). One of them faces the danger of losing an arm due to gangrene caused by blade cuts. The abusers believe that through this method the evil living in the children's bodies can be released.    This evil practice is usually promoted by members of certain “churches”, which in most cases are illegally open to the public. Driven by a mystical, malicious, ignorant spirit or simply by the desire to get rid of one more mouth to feed, family members are primarily responsible for such attitudes. By believing in witchcraft, they condemn their sons, nephews or stepchildren to appalling suffering when something goes wrong in their homes.

like i said...  African native beliefs.

I also note "churches"

That excerpt doesn't state whatsoever that their belief in killing witches is based on African tribal beliefs rather than Christianity. Merely placing quotation makes around the word "church" doesn't imply that whatsoever. The fact is they're Christians, they're acting in accordance with how Christians have in the past and even continue to act all over the world, and in accordance with what's written in the Bible:

Exodus 22:18 Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

(Yeh yeh we know *you* don't believe in the OT, obviously some Christians do)

Anyway the NT doesn't have much nice to say about witches:

Revelations 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death

Revelations 22:15 For without [are] dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

Unless of course you consider being lumped with whoremongers, dogs, murderers and idolators to be nice.

But I know, you're gonna claim this particular book of the NT was written by such and such a person who isn't authoritative within Christianity... Whatever ya reckon Mr. Rotflmao.

Then of course we have cases of modern day cases of Christians persecuting witches in the USA. Such as a school student who was suspended for casting a spell on her teacher:

An Oklahoma high school suspended a 15-year-old student after accusing her of casting a magic spell that caused a teacher to become sick, lawyers for the student said on Friday.

Or the Christian preachers who carries guns to church in case a warlock tries to grab one of their kids and wishes the army would napalm them all:


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In August 1999, Jack Harvey, pastor of Tabernacle Independent Baptist Church in Killeen, Texas allegedly arranged for at least one member of his church to carry a handgun during religious services, "in case a warlock tries to grab one of our kids [...]. I've heard they drink blood, eat babies. They have fires, they probably cook them [...]." During the speeches which preceded his church's demonstration against Wiccans, Rev. Harvey allegedly stated that the U.S. Army should napalm Witches. One of the protesters carried a sign which read "Witchcraft is an abomination" on one side and "Burn the witches off Ft. Hood" on the other. A Wiccan faith group is active at Ft. Hood, a large army base near Killeen.

Or a teacher who lost his job due to practising wizardry, but remember he was guilty of other stuff as well, wizardry was only one if his crimes:


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In 2008, Jim Piculas, a substitute teacher at Charles S. Rushe Middle School in Land O' Lakes, Florida, was reported to have lost his job for "wizardry." Piculas performed a sleight of hand trick in front of students, making a toothpick seem to disappear using concealed adhesive tape. In a phone conversation with Piculas, an administrator is claimed to have told Piculas that he had been "accused of wizardry." School officials later informed reporters that wizardry was "just one of the reasons Piculas was let go."

Wikipedia

So perhaps you don't believe in "thou shalt not suffer a witch to live", but some Christians apparently do, and not just African ones. And according to your criteria of judging religions, if some members of a religion commit an act of evil, the entire religion and all her adherents should be guilty for it right???

Grendel wrote on Feb 12^th, 2009 at 8:20pm:

From Angola... Quote:    Angola was recently shaken by terrible news of abandoned, ill-treated, tortured and killed children accused of witchcraft. One of the recent cases was in the municipality of Sambizanga in Luanda. According to local newspapers, the National Police rescued dozens of children who were locked inside a room where a bonfire was lit burning jindungo (a type of chilli). One of them faces the danger of losing an arm due to gangrene caused by blade cuts. The abusers believe that through this method the evil living in the children's bodies can be released.    This evil practice is usually promoted by members of certain “churches”, which in most cases are illegally open to the public. Driven by a mystical, malicious, ignorant spirit or simply by the desire to get rid of one more mouth to feed, family members are primarily responsible for such attitudes. By believing in witchcraft, they condemn their sons, nephews or stepchildren to appalling suffering when something goes wrong in their homes. like i said...  African native beliefs. I also note "churches"

BWAHAHAHAHA...

All those witches burnt at the stake in Europe was only 'african native beliefs' as well hey.

Ahh boofy, you really are entertaining.

Oh dear time travelling again Lester...  hey let me know when islam catches up to the 21st century, then we can perhaps have a balanced discussion.

I'd educate you and Abu about superstitions and beliefs and the church etc etc  and how it evolves etc, etc, etc... but...  it would take far too long and of course unless Al jazeera says it you both don't believe it.  :D

BTW Lester...  I'd rather be entertaining than a complete idiot like your good self.

Grendel wrote on Feb 13^th, 2009 at 1:31pm:

Oh dear time travelling again Lester...  hey let me know when islam catches up to the 21st century, then we can perhaps have a balanced discussion.

Unfortunately boofy, we can never have a balanced discussion. You are a child, I am an adult. You are ignorant, I am muslim.


Grendel wrote on Feb 13^th, 2009 at 1:31pm:

I'd educate you and Abu about superstitions and beliefs and the church etc etc  and how it evolves etc, etc, etc... but...  it would take far too long and of course unless Al jazeera says it you both don't believe it.  :D

Perhaps you should start with educating yourself first, before you worry about others. Baby steps before you run...eh boofy. :)


Grendel wrote on Feb 13^th, 2009 at 1:31pm:

BTW Lester...  I'd rather be entertaining than a complete idiot like your good self.

Thats good, cause your actually both. An entertaining complete idiot. :D:D

ROTFLMAO   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

you are soooooo deluded les.  :D