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Title: Middle Eastern Gangs in Sydney in the 1990's
Post by Yadda on Feb 11^th, 2009 at 7:16am

Gangs of Oz

On air tonight.

Channel: Seven
When: 9:30 PM, Wednesday, 11 Feb 2009

"....Gangs of Oz tells real-life stories from Australia's underworld gang culture. Narrated by Aussie actor Colin Friels, this documentary series reveals the inner-workings of our nation's most infamous criminal rings all of whom have a propensity for violence.

The program's first instalment delves into Middle Eastern crime: criminals with hallmarks including drive-by shootings, drug trafficking, car theft and contempt for authority."
http://canberra.citysearch.com.au/tv/1137636209133/Gangs+of+Oz

http://au.tv.yahoo.com/gangs-of-oz/

It looks like this episode may explore how some ppl, for whatever reason, choose to 'repay' a country which gave their families a new home?

Many migrants choose to integrate and contribute to the 'common wealth' of Australia.

While some other migrants choose to travel a different path.

Why this difference?

Is it culturally based?

Title: Re: Middle Eastern Gangs in Sydney in the 1990's
Post by Grendel on Feb 11^th, 2009 at 11:42am

During Fraser's government many lebanese from tribal regions were allowed into Australia without proper vetting.

Title: Re: Middle Eastern Gangs in Sydney in the 1990's
Post by Yadda on Feb 11^th, 2009 at 11:45am

Grendel wrote on Feb 11^th, 2009 at 11:42am:

During Fraser's government many lebanese from tribal regions were allowed into Australia without proper vetting.

'Vetting', isn't that like something you have done to your young cats and dogs?

It certainly sounds like a missed opportunity to me.

Title: Re: Middle Eastern Gangs in Sydney in the 1990's
Post by abu_rashid on Feb 12^th, 2009 at 7:42am

Yeh sounds interesting...

An Italian guy, Alan Rossini, is going to recount his time working with the Middle Eastern crime gang of Maronite Danny Karam... Very interesting indeed.

Or did you think it was all about Muslims Yadda?

Shall we call them "Christian criminals"?

Title: Re: Middle Eastern Gangs in Sydney in the 1990's
Post by Yadda on Feb 12^th, 2009 at 8:37am

abu_rashid wrote on Feb 12^th, 2009 at 7:42am:

Yes abu,

Clearly Danny Karam, and his right-hand man Tony Rashid (not his real name) and their their gang, are all Christians.
/sarc off

Funny though how in one frame, the 'Christian's mother[?] of one gang member, was seen wearing a muslim womans' head covering.

Title: Re: Middle Eastern Gangs in Sydney in the 1990's
Post by abu_rashid on Feb 12^th, 2009 at 6:37pm

No doubt there's a Muslim or two who got mixed up with them.

But the leader is definitely Maronite, as was the most [in]famous member, Michael Kanaan, and Rossini is clearly from Christian background.

Now since I'm a rational human being, I wouldn't for a minute suppose that this means Christianity supports or promotes criminality. Sure the Muslim members of the gang may have attended mosques at some time in their lives, and I'm sure the Christian members would've attended their respective churches. That's just part of the "Mediterranean" cultures, that the church/mosque is a central part of most families' affairs, rather than the religion of any of the offenders being somehow linked to criminality. Plenty of Italian mafia figures are linked quite closely with their Catholic churches... that doesn't mean the church condones or participates in their crimes.

Too bad you don't have the brains to see the same...

Title: Re: Middle Eastern Gangs in Sydney in the 1990's
Post by Grendel on Feb 12^th, 2009 at 8:30pm

So all those Lebs with guns and bats and knives that came from the Mosque and drove to Cronulla and vandalised all those cars, stabbed shot at and beat up people and etc, etc, etc... they were all just Christians too eh?

Title: Re: Middle Eastern Gangs in Sydney in the 1990's
Post by mozzaok on Feb 12^th, 2009 at 8:41pm

You can't have it both ways Abu, or in Islam's case, thrice ways.

Culture, religion, or race, depending on what line of claptrap is being peddled at the time.
I suppose we could also chuck in, political system, as well, but you guys like to play that aspect down, which is quite wise, considering the examples we see of Islamic governments behaviour.

Even so, I agree with you that many people go over the top in associating every act of every muslim, as being representative of Islam.

Title: Re: Middle Eastern Gangs in Sydney in the 1990's
Post by Grendel on Feb 12^th, 2009 at 8:51pm

Oh but there's more... what do you suppose explains the conversion to islam rate in NSW prisons?

Title: Re: Middle Eastern Gangs in Sydney in the 1990's
Post by tallowood on Feb 12^th, 2009 at 8:53pm

"But the leader is definitely Maronite, as was the most [in]famous member, Michael Kanaan, and Rossini is clearly from Christian background." (c) abu

abu, didn't you come from Christian background too?

Beside, islam has no borders and so is crime.

Title: Re: Middle Eastern Gangs in Sydney in the 1990's
Post by Lestat on Feb 12^th, 2009 at 8:56pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 12^th, 2009 at 8:51pm:

Oh but there's more... what do you suppose explains the conversion to islam rate in NSW prisons?

Its not only prisons boofy....Australians are converting to Islam in droves..especially your woman.

What do you suppose explains that? :)

Title: Re: Middle Eastern Gangs in Sydney in the 1990's
Post by Lestat on Feb 12^th, 2009 at 8:59pm

mozzaok wrote on Feb 12^th, 2009 at 8:41pm:

Whether they're Christians or muslims, the undeniable fact is that these 'gangs' are acting more 'Australian' then they are 'Lebenese'.

There actions have much more similarities to bikies then it does too Lebenese culture, be it Christian or Muslim. Fact is that Lebenese in Lebenon do not behave this way.

Bikies on the other hand....

Title: Re: Middle Eastern Gangs in Sydney in the 1990's
Post by easel on Feb 12^th, 2009 at 9:05pm

I've heard in Lebanon there are heaps of underworld groups.

The Muslims have them, the Druze have them, the Christians have them and so on.

Title: Re: Middle Eastern Gangs in Sydney in the 1990's
Post by tallowood on Feb 12^th, 2009 at 9:05pm

How do Lebenese gangs in Lebenon behave?

Title: Re: Middle Eastern Gangs in Sydney in the 1990's
Post by Grendel on Feb 12^th, 2009 at 9:34pm

Acting more Australian... ? Have you a peanut for a brain Les.

More violent etc, etc, etc.... read the police reports on them they don't act like Australians.

Oh BTW, only the ugly women are converting Les... some prisoners are because it's safer that way. Oh and most Australians aren't converting at all so don't delude yourself.

Title: Re: Middle Eastern Gangs in Sydney in the 1990's
Post by mozzaok on Feb 12^th, 2009 at 9:44pm

Peanuts are useful Grendel, Le Stoop has no redeeming features.

He is the original mr 15 watts, I do not know why you waste your time, as he not only shows no ability to comprehend or learn, but an actual aversion to it, which explains a lot about his choices..

Title: Re: Middle Eastern Gangs in Sydney in the 1990's
Post by Lestat on Feb 12^th, 2009 at 10:16pm

mozzaok wrote on Feb 12^th, 2009 at 9:44pm:

Learn..from you? How to be wanker perhaps (sorry Grendel...we know about your obsession with porn, but I am talking about Mozz this time. :))

If you had half a brain Mozz you'd be dangerous. The sad thing is you actually think your half intelligent.

Title: Re: Middle Eastern Gangs in Sydney in the 1990's
Post by Lestat on Feb 12^th, 2009 at 10:18pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 12^th, 2009 at 9:34pm:

Only the 'ugly' women hey. Nice of you to objectify woman in that way. Is this your 'Australian' culture coming out. :)

I didn't say 'most' Australians dimwit...learn how to read. Your kindergarten teachers have a lot to answer for. :)

Title: Re: Middle Eastern Gangs in Sydney in the 1990's
Post by Grendel on Feb 12^th, 2009 at 10:34pm

ROTFLMAO

No you didn't say most. I did.
If you did I would have used quotes dhimmiwit. ;D ;D ;D
I didn't objectify any women either. :D
I just replied in kind. ("Especially your women"... ROTFLMAO)

you are right Mozz peanuts are more useful. :)

Title: Re: Middle Eastern Gangs in Sydney in the 1990's
Post by Lestat on Feb 12^th, 2009 at 10:51pm

Grendel wrote on Feb 12^th, 2009 at 10:34pm:

So why tell me that 'most Australians aren't converting'..when I never made the claim that they are. Are you talking to yourself again boofy. Have you forgotten to take your medication.

lol..the pathetic loser that can only get off on porn because he leads a pathetic lonely life is calling woman 'ugly'.

BWAHAHAHA. Beggers shouldn't be choosy boofy.

We respect all woman and don't judge them by their looks. You should try it sometime.

Title: Re: Middle Eastern Gangs in Sydney in the 1990's
Post by Calanen on Feb 12^th, 2009 at 11:13pm

Quote:

We respect all woman and don't judge them by their looks. You should try it sometime.

Yes the Islamic world is *famous* for its respect of women.

Title: Re: Middle Eastern Gangs in Sydney in the 1990's
Post by abu_rashid on Feb 13^th, 2009 at 3:19am

Mr. Rotflmao,

Quote:

If you did I would have used quotes dhimmiwit.

So quotes for when you're truthfully quoting someone, and no quotes for when you're falsifying? I'll have to keep that in mind.

Title: Re: Middle Eastern Gangs in Sydney in the 1990's
Post by tallowood on Feb 13^th, 2009 at 7:20am

Calanen wrote on Feb 12^th, 2009 at 11:13pm:

Quote:

We respect all woman and don't judge them by their looks. You should try it sometime.

Yes the Islamic world is *famous* for its respect of women.

Yes. Here is an example how muslim women being respected by official muslim man.

Title: Re: Middle Eastern Gangs in Sydney in the 1990's
Post by Lestat on Feb 13^th, 2009 at 8:50am

Calanen wrote on Feb 12^th, 2009 at 11:13pm:

Quote:

We respect all woman and don't judge them by their looks. You should try it sometime.

Yes the Islamic world is *famous* for its respect of women.

Perhaps you'd like the Islamic world to take a leaf from the west, and 'respect' women by sexually objectifying them, and labelling them as 'ugly' or 'pretty'.

Strange that so many western woman are converting to Islam. Must be that 'lack of respect' hey. :)

Title: Re: Middle Eastern Gangs in Sydney in the 1990's
Post by Lestat on Feb 13^th, 2009 at 8:51am

tallowood wrote on Feb 13^th, 2009 at 7:20am:

Calanen wrote on Feb 12^th, 2009 at 11:13pm:

Quote:

We respect all woman and don't judge them by their looks. You should try it sometime.

Yes the Islamic world is *famous* for its respect of women.

Yes. Here is an example how muslim women being respected by official muslim man.

Would you like me to post the video of those guys in weribee p(ssing on a poor helpless girl, as an example of 'western men respecting western woman'.

Oh...and then posting it on you tube, bragging about their actions. Now thats 'respect'.

Title: Re: Middle Eastern Gangs in Sydney in the 1990's
Post by tallowood on Feb 13^th, 2009 at 9:08am

Lestat wrote on Feb 13^th, 2009 at 8:51am:

tallowood wrote on Feb 13^th, 2009 at 7:20am:

Calanen wrote on Feb 12^th, 2009 at 11:13pm:

Quote:

We respect all woman and don't judge them by their looks. You should try it sometime.

Yes the Islamic world is *famous* for its respect of women.

Yes. Here is an example how muslim women being respected by official muslim man.

May be that is respect according to islam but western society does not condone it as such. Quiet opposite, we openly say that it is horrific abomination while hundreds if not thousands violent acts against women by islamists meet muffled response from muslim community who are unwilling to criticise their brothers in faith.

Title: Re: Middle Eastern Gangs in Sydney in the 1990's
Post by Yadda on Feb 13^th, 2009 at 10:39am

Grendel wrote on Feb 12^th, 2009 at 8:51pm:

Oh but there's more... what do you suppose explains the conversion to islam rate in NSW prisons?

Grendel,

In answer to your Q., i would offer....

"Birds of a feather, flock together." ????

Title: Re: Middle Eastern Gangs in Sydney in the 1990's
Post by Grendel on Feb 13^th, 2009 at 1:24pm

That would be jailbirds of a feather yadda... ;D