Here he was spreading the message of peace to the kiddies

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=1dO-k6_AlIg

Alas, he now gets matryed by terrorist Jew to make the kiddies cry

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=j-UD8kzTJIU&NR=1

The bad news: He's set up for replacement by another charming character.

What extremely sad videos and anyone with half a brain would see that psychologically the Palestinians have been brought to their knees.  Don't you believe we are partly responsible for this?  Us the wealthy, greedy west who have the luxury of producing happy, positive children's shows - it appears they don't. Their parents don't know peace and happiness either - how can they teach their children differently?

Children in Palestine: The Facts

According to the United Nations Fund for Children (UNICEF): “Conditions have rarely been worse for Palestinian children.” One in 10 Palestinian children now suffer from stunted growth due to compromised health, poor diet and nutrition and 50% of Palestinian children are anemic, and 75% of those under 5 suffer from vitamin A deficiency.

UNICEF claims that roadblocks, barriers, checkpoints and soldiers are impeding health workers and patients, including child patients, from accessing health centers across the Occupied Palestinian Territory. Delivery of medication and equipment are also severely affected.

Rising poverty and unemployment is affecting school attendance across Palestine. In the 2005/6 school year the number of students whose families could not afford the NIS 50 ($11) school fee doubled from 29,000 to 56,000.

Up to 67% of families are living in poverty across the West Bank. In Gaza poverty rates have spiraled to 85% this year, severely affecting every aspect of children’s lives.

Increasing numbers of Palestinian children are now working to support their families instead of attending school. Palestinian children under the age of 14 can cross Israeli checkpoints without permits, and at least one thousand Palestinian children now cross into Israel every day, to work in garbage tips salvaging glass and metal. More than half of the Palestinian children who work in Israel, or Palestine, do not attend school at all.

In a reality where the adults are engaged in daily violence and aggression, the emotion and outlook of young Palestinians is built upon anger, loss and trauma. All Palestin-ian children can tell you about their relationship to the occupation and the horrors they have witnessed at such a young and vulnerable age - from death to injury to daily humiliation. Many children, far more than in other countries, suffer from acute psychological, emotional and social problems which exhibit themselves in a variety of ways.

The standard of living for Palestinian children has declined along the same trajectories as the Palestinian economy. This is unacceptable according to every national and international law, standard or moral code. Moreover, it makes peace that much harder to reach between our two peoples.

The children of the ‘lost generation’ have, more often than not, never met an Israeli who was unarmed, unafraid, and not dealing with them from a position of power. To them, the guard at the checkpoint repre-sents all Israelis; and within this they have found something to fear and hate.

Soon this ‘lost generation’ will arrive to their adulthood knowing only occupation, and nothing what-so-ever of peace. It is them with whom peace will have to be struck, and it is their accumulated anger and trauma which will sit on the opposite side of the negotiating table. To those who say that there have been no real ‘partner for peace’ before on the Palestinian side...wait until you meet the ones with no hope at all.

Israel has often chosen to sidestep both its own regulations, and those of the UN Convention by charging and sentencing children as young as twelve years old.

Between the ages of 12-14, children can be sen-tenced for offenses for a period of up to 6 months. After the age of 14, Palestinian children are tried as adults. There are no juvenile courts, and children are often detained in centers together with adults.



http://www.palestinemonitor.org/spip/spip.php?article11

I think I posted about this in another thread, where the Israeli agent beats Farfour to death. Happened a while ago.

Mantra is going for the ol' 'they must be mentally ill' angle. Least its a less used variation to the 'bad translation' angle.

Yes you did post it somewhere else Calanen, but I thought they were only freezes and I didn't pay much attention and assumed they were doctored.

Yes I am going with the "mentally ill" line - 80% of Palestinians have mental health problems.  Soldiers come home with shell shock (post traumatic stress disorder).  30 days of being constantly surrounded by bombs going off causes this.

The Palestinians have lived with it for 60 years - what else would you expect?

I don't expect from anything them, they are sworn to kill us all and take over the world.

I expect a little more from the general populace, but the apologism never stops. There will never be an occassion that you do nto have an excuse for their behaviour Mantra. Why should they ever need to reform, ever, anything - when there is always an excuse or reason for whatever they do.

No matter how insane, barbaric, inhumane. The worse Hamas behaves, the more it is our fault.  Moral relativism and post-modernist Fairyland Thinking.

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I think I posted about this in another thread, where the Israeli agent beats Farfour to death. Happened a while ago.

Yes either you or Mozz have posted them before.

I think it's this Jew eating rabbit which is his replacement.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=-uPEF7pdRD0&feature=related



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Their parents don't know peace and happiness either - how can they teach their children differently?

If they had any real faith in Allah, who they seem to mention in every breath, they'd realise that constant fighting will only bring more misery.

They seem to be able to afford plenty of rockets to fire constantly at Israel.

mantra lol


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What extremely sad videos and anyone with half a brain would see that psychologically the Palestinians have been brought to their knees.

 

So you think this is a mental illness not a product of their culture and beliefs eh.  Well i suggest you go over there and tell them mantra.


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Don't you believe we are partly responsible for this?

No absolutely not not in any way shape or form.  Why don't you go over there and tell them you are responsible for their mental illness... I'll sit here and watch from a distance.


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Us the wealthy, greedy west who have the luxury of producing happy, positive children's shows - it appears they don't. Their parents don't know peace and happiness either - how can they teach their children differently?

You are kidding right?
You've swallowed the victimhood thing totally and don't think they might have some responsibilities for their own lives.  Interesting...  but...

You are kidding right?

Actually it was Nahoul the Bee that replaced Farfour the Mouse. Nahoul the Bee went to a pathetic petting zoo and swung cats around by the tail, apparently to show children what NOT to do in dealing with animals.

http://au.youtube.com/v/wu_CWvvjvnU

He also threw rocks at the cages of other animals, much to the delight of the crowd of children onlookers.

Im wondering if that was the same pathetic petting zoo that Hamas booby trapped the other day.

http://au.youtube.com/v/uHhs9ihSmbU

Both in Gaza, so, could be...

Should have put the bee in with the lions.

Nahoul was apparently killed in an Israeli airstrike in another program. Then there was the Assud the Jew Eating Rabbit.

http://au.youtube.com/v/A7ftxzv8TZI

I'm a big fan. Nothing I like more than watching an episode of the Young Pioneers.

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No matter how insane, barbaric, inhumane. The worse Hamas behaves, the more it is our fault.  Moral relativism and post-modernist Fairyland Thinking

Since when have the Muslims made statements about taking over the world?

I'm not being an apologist - I just feel extremely sad for these people and the futility of their existence.  They're not going to win this battle, but why should they give up all hope.  By giving up militarily - they will psychologically be giving in to Israel - they will no longer have any hope.  Yes their mindset is different to ours - we would just wave our white flags in the air and then lie down - they can't do that.


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If they had any real faith in Allah, who they seem to mention in every breath, they'd realise that constant fighting will only bring more misery.

That doesn't sound right - I thought all the anti-Islamists on this board say that Allah is evil and aggressive.  

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Since when have the Muslims made statements about taking over the world?

ROTFLMAO  since Mohammed...


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I thought all the anti-Islamists on this board say that Allah is evil and aggressive.

You thought...  you actually got any quotes?

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That doesn't sound right - I thought all the anti-Islamists on this board say that Allah is evil and aggressive.

Yeah I thought I might get a bite from Abu there.
I meant to say God.


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I'm a big fan. Nothing I like more than watching an episode of the Young Pioneers.

Yeah, I'm sure it'll get a good fan base.
I'm hooked, but I've got to keep up with these characters.
So the bee thing which torments animals to show what not to do was killed by the Jews also?

And the rabbit is the latest jihadi but he's not racist because he'll also eat the Danes?

Wow! I wonder how the Palestinian kids keep up with all of this.

Palestine is essentially a massive prison. Take that in to consideration.

Palestine doesn't exist...  nor Palestinians actually, just people that call themselves that.

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Since when have the Muslims made statements about taking over the world?

I think that's been pretty well documented Mantra.
The big problem is, that this seems to be not only the attitude of the extremists, but also the attitude of many who were considered "moderates".

So what should we call them Grendel - the Philistines?  

And Amadd - if it had been well documented and perhaps it was - why don't we see more of this in our media?  Surely the biggest gripe of Muslims is western invasion, colonisation and the theft of their resources.

Grendel wrote on Jan 17^th, 2009 at 4:50pm:

Palestine doesn't exist...  nor Palestinians actually, just people that call themselves that.

Don't use that old argument.

As far as today is concerned, there is a place known as Palestine when spoken of which we all understand what is being spoken of, and there are people who referred to as Palestinians who we understand are being referred to when they are.

Its very sickening in any case.

Something worth knowing is that Al Aqsa TV, HAMAS' propaganda mouthpiece, is broadcast all over the world via satellite.

It is not offered here in Australia anymore as of 2001 (?) maybe (officially, I bet you could still get it if you wanted to). So this 'misunderstander Islam for a tiny tiny minority of very minor extremists' is watched throughout the Arab world and the West, not just in Gaza.

My apologies also, the show is called Tomorrow's Pioneers, not Young Pioneers as I said earlier. I think I'll have to stop wearing my Jihad Mouse ears now.

easel wrote on Jan 17^th, 2009 at 5:35pm:

Grendel wrote on Jan 17th, 2009 at 4:50pm: Palestine doesn't exist...  nor Palestinians actually, just people that call themselves that. Don't use that old argument. As far as today is concerned, there is a place known as Palestine when spoken of which we all understand what is being spoken of, and there are people who referred to as Palestinians who we understand are being referred to when they are.

We do? Somewhere in the Israel region. What are the borders of 'Palestine'. All of Israel? Part of Jordan? Just the occupied territories? All of the former BMP? Just the original Arab state under Resolution 181?  I guess it does not matter. But for now, there is no Palestine.

And if HAMAS keeps going, there wont be any Palestine.

hey just giving you the facts easel...  like to point out to me the country of Palestine?

hmmm  it don't exist

They don't exist anymore mantra but that is where the name comes from.

ROTFLMAO


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It's not in our media

Palenstien is a jail because the leaders are criminals.

mantra wrote on Jan 17^th, 2009 at 3:44pm:

......Yes I am going with the "mentally ill" line - 80% of Palestinians have mental health problems......The Palestinians have lived with it for 60 years - what else would you expect?

mantra,

100% of devout muslims have mental health problems.


Devout muslims believe they are sanctified by their god, Allah, to kill those 'unbelievers' who resist the authority of ISLAM.
....[devout muslims learn this in their 'holy' writings, the Koran and Hadith]

Devout muslims have lived with such delusions for 1400 years.

i.e. the delusion that killing ppl unlike themselves, is doing God's work on earth.

mantra wrote on Jan 17^th, 2009 at 4:14pm:

.....Since when have the Muslims made statements about taking over the world?

mantra,

Open your eyes.




From the Koran....

Allah has overcame the Jews & Christians, 'and cast terror into their hearts'.
Everything that the un-believers have, THEIR LANDS, their possessions, belongs to muslims!
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/033.qmt.html#033.025
v. 25 - 27
These verses are an encouragement to muslims to Jihad, to strive for victory, and for the 'WAR BOOTY', which is Allah's 'gift' to muslims.


It is not you [believers] who overcame the Jews & Christians; it was Allah:
It was Allah, he makes feeble the plans and stratagem of the unbelievers to resist you.
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/033.qmt.html#008.017
CORRECTION
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/008.qmt.html#008.017
v. 17 & 18


The muslims will overcome the unbelievers.
And as each new land falls to the influence of ISLAM,
....the unbelievers must see who will win.
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/033.qmt.html#021.043
CORRECTION
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/021.qmt.html#021.043
v. 43 & 44




at Wiki, see also....

DIVISIONS OF THE WORLD, ACCORDING TO ISLAM

Dar al-Islam = = the house of Islam, house of Peace.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dar_al-Islam#Dar_al-Islam

Dar al-Harb = = "house of war", those countries where Sharia does not rule.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dar_al-Islam#Dar_al-Harb

Harbi = = "one under a declaration of war", a non-muslim, WHO DOES NOT LIVE UNDER MUSLIM RULE.
".........A harbi has no rights, not even the right to live."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harbi



A UK muslim cleric 'explains' that the UK is, Dar al-Harb, "the house of war"
Anjem Choudary - speaking on the London 7/7 bombing victims.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4




http://www.zionism-israel.com/ezine/Isllam1.jpg
Muslim street protest, London, 2006


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/ARCHONPRIME/Media%20Images/warfinmosque.jpg


NEWS REPORT...

Poll reveals 40pc of Muslims want sharia law in UK
By Patrick Hennessy and Melissa Kite
20/02/2006
Four out of 10 British Muslims want sharia law introduced into parts of the country, a survey reveals today.
.......The most startling finding is the high level of support for applying sharia law in "predominantly Muslim" areas of Britain.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html


And this [below] is what commonly happens to non-muslims who 'insult' ISLAM, in "predominantly muslim areas", in some countries.....


NEWS REPORT...

February 5, 2008
70-year-old woman, convert from Islam to Christianity, burned to death in Bangladesh
....DHAKA, BANGLADESH (BosNewsLife)-- Christian villagers in a Muslim-majority area of Bangladesh on Tuesday, February 5, mourned the death of a 70-year-old woman who died from burns she suffered when a mob reportedly set her home ablaze as a punishment for converting from Islam to Christianity.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/019813.php

N.B. These type of crimes are already happening in Western Europe, today.

We refer to them as 'honour' crimes.

But this is an inaccurate misnomer which is being perpetuated within our Western mainstream media.

A misnomer which hides the source of the motivation for these crimes.


These crimes are the murder of persons who 'insult' ISLAM.

The victims 'insult' ISLAM,
.....by adopting un-ISLAMIC values, and habits,
.....or by breaking with [the authority of] muslim family members.

These crimes, are more accurately described as the murder of muslim apostates.

This is a terror crime, which is clearly sanctified, and encouraged, within ISLAMIC 'holy' texts.

mantra wrote on Jan 17^th, 2009 at 4:14pm:

.......Since when have the Muslims made statements about taking over the world?

September 8, 2007
Our followers ‘must live in peace until strong enough to wage jihad’
One of the world’s most respected Deobandi scholars believes that aggressive military jihad should be waged by Muslims to establish the supremacy of Islam worldwide.
......His views explode the myth that the creed of offensive, expansionist jihad represents a distortion of traditional Islamic thinking.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article2409833.ece

Yes mantra, it seems that Islamicism is being left to fester and get out of control within western communities.
Mainstream media and the government hardly reports anything at all that might incite civil unrest - or maybe the reason is fear, or maybe the reason is to use Islam as a pawn for enforcing more stringent controls, or maybe it's just political correctness gone crazy..who knows?
Whatever the reason, the results are the same; we're going to give away what's been fought for.

If you refuse to accept that it's a problem now, then at least watch the first clip to be aware that it may be a problem in the future.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=ovUwG34kuEc


Here, the "translation card" is used in an attempt to keep the doctrine in muslim schools.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=xnOdD46WI0M

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=SNZQ5D8IwfI

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=d4EpCwhgOCE

Well, that was original(the you tube clips) a muslim director of the King Fahad school, explains how the teaching of jews and christians, as monkeys, and pigs, is a misinterpretation, and mistranslation, they teach tolerance.

They must hold us in such utter contempt, to blatantly lie, and lie, and lie, and then have the gall to act all indignant, if their lies are not immediately accepted at face value.

We disrespect them, by not accepting their lies.

And people wonder why I think faith based education should be banned, unbelievable.

But why should they stop lying when clueless people always believe it? Mantra believes it, and there are probably loads of people just as clueless as her who also do so. In secret they say what they really think.

By ANTHONY FRANCE
and VINCE SOODIN

Published: 13 Sep 2008

A HATE fanatic has boasted that Muslims will one day conquer Britain — by having more BABIES.

Speaking at a rally marking 9/11, Anjem Choudary bragged that a birth explosion would let followers of Islam take control of the country.

Undercover Sun investigators secretly recorded Choudary telling a young and impressionable audience that they would eventually rule under strict Sharia law.

And our team listened in chilled silence as he predicted: “Islam is superior and will never be surpassed. The flag of Islam will rise over Downing Street.”

Lawyer Choudary also said it would be easy for vast numbers of Muslims to declare Jihad, or holy war, against Britain — and that every one of them could become “a time bomb waiting to go off”.

The Sun team watched vile Choudary, the right-hand man of exiled preacher of hate Omar Bakri, ranting to 100 young Muslims at a meeting in East London.

The mob bayed and cheered as he said: “About 500 people in Britain become Muslim every day.

“The Home Office say there are 1.5million Muslims but there were 1.5million ten years ago. Since then our brothers in Bethnal Green, Whitechapel and other places have had eight or nine children each. Eight children here, ten children, 15 children. There must be at least six million people.

“It may be by pure conversion that Britain will become an Islamic state. We may never need to conquer it from the outside.”

Security

The rally — advertised as a debate on whether the West had “learned the lessons” of 9/11 — was held amid strict security in a hall above a mosque in Lea Bridge Road, Leyton. Stewards on the door demanded ID from non-Muslims.

Meeting ... hall's entrance

Inside the atmosphere was tense as dozens of young men in their teens or 20s packed chairs at the front while the few women present were ushered to the back. Choudary — whose family live on £25,000 a year in benefits — whipped them into a frenzy with a speech calling for Sharia law, under which criminals and adulterers are stoned or have limbs amputated.

He roared: “We do not integrate into Christianity. We will ensure that one day you will integrate into the Sharia Islamic law. Our eyes are on Downing Street.”

He went on: “That is why the British are so afraid. It would be easy for us to declare Jihad in Britain and each one of us could become a time-bomb waiting to go off. But we are not people who betray.”

Choudary, who once called for the Pope to be executed and said the 9/11 hijackers were “magnificent martyrs”, also claimed without a shred of evidence that 200 Muslim women were locked up in British jails.

Speaker ... Anjem Choudary

Peter Jordan/The Sun

Midway through the three-hour rally there was a break for prayers and food. The audience knelt on the floor and free chicken curry and bottles of water were handed out — but nobody ate or drank until a signal from chairman Abu Omar.

Another hate-filled speaker, Saiful Islam, praised terror chief Osama Bin Laden and al-Qaeda for their courage in retaliating against the West’s “oppression”.

He warned of a repeat of the 9/11 attacks in which more than 3,000 died in America, or another 7/7 suicide attack in London. He said: “The blame of 9/11 belongs to no one but the American government. They are the terrorists.

Learned

“Sheikh Osama warned America numerous times, it was because of their own arrogance, because they thought they are a superpower and nobody could match them, that Sheikh Osama taught them a lesson - a lesson they still haven’t learned.”

Praying ... audience kneels after hearing Choudary speak

Peter Jordan/The Sun

Referring to Iraq and Afghanistan, he warned the US and Britain: “Wake up. Withdraw. Listen. All of us have a part to play in stopping the violence or the next 9/11 will take place in Britain, the next 7/7 could take place locally.”

The meeting was also addressed by law lecturer Abu Saalihah and there was a live webcam link to Omar Bakri at his Lebanon hideout.

Yesterday unrepentant Bakri said he could not understand what moderate Muslims have against Bin Laden.

He also dismissed 9/11 as “just an event” which was neither good nor bad but comparable to the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Speaking from Beirut he said: “Osama Bin Laden is a legendary person for Muslims round the world.”

Last night the meeting was condemned by moderate Muslims.

Aqbal Sacranie, ex-Secretary General of the Muslim Council of Great Britain, said: “Such outrageous and irresponsible comments are nothing new from the likes of Omar Bakri and his lot. These people know they do not represent the views of the vast majority, if not the entire community, of Muslims in the UK.”

Last night Scotland Yard asked The Sun for a copy of our video showing Choudary and Islam’s rants.

The Counter-Terrorism Command will study the footage. Sources stressed they had not launched a formal inquiry but one said: “We want to see if any laws were breached.”

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1683635.ece

Could be worst...people could believe your lies.

Lestat wrote on Jan 19^th, 2009 at 2:30pm:

Could be worst...people could believe your lies.

What are my lies, oh wise one of the Tough Men of Preston Mosque?