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Message started by John on Dec 22nd, 2008 at 4:59pm

Title: Is anyone concerned about internet filtering plan?
Post by John on Dec 22nd, 2008 at 4:59pm
I sure am. They have absolutely no right to dictate what people can and can't look at.

Title: Re: Is anyone concerned about internet filtering plan?
Post by easel on Dec 22nd, 2008 at 5:21pm
Whilst it is a concern, if it goes through and gets made law, the politicians who vote in favour of it should be much more concerned about their own safety, or that of their families, than the safety of the plebs (us) and the 'bad stuff' we can access on the internet.

Especially in this day and age, with people showing increasing signs of paranoia, distrust and hostility towards their governments.

Blocking websites deemed inappropriate is not going to remove undetected psychos, or even better, freedom loving patriots, from the streets.

Title: Re: Is anyone concerned about internet filtering plan?
Post by Amadd on Dec 22nd, 2008 at 5:38pm
From my understanding, you can get around it quite easily by going through an anonymous proxy server - but ohhh wouldn't you be such a bad bad person if you did that?
Surely that would be grounds for being a suspect for kiddy porn or planning a terrorist attack wouldn't it?



Title: Re: Is anyone concerned about internet filtering plan?
Post by Jim Profit on Dec 24th, 2008 at 12:51am

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Surely that would be grounds for being a suspect for kiddy porn or planning a terrorist attack wouldn't it?

If you are though, Jim Profit thinks you're cool. And isn't that really the only reason to live? 8-)

But seriously. I believe nothing on the internet has any tangible meaning in reality. As the internet is a highway of information, ideas, and communication medium. Thus it should not be restricted, because in some ways, it's like policing the mind..

Granted, I won't hesitate to abuse it and incriminate my enemies.

Like Moot and 4chan.

Title: Re: Is anyone concerned about internet filtering plan?
Post by freediver on Dec 31st, 2008 at 1:21pm
No opt-out of filtered Internet

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1224127253

Title: Re: Is anyone concerned about internet filtering plan?
Post by Jim Profit on Jan 14th, 2009 at 11:17am
Hell, instead of blocking websites and making it illegal to view, why not go after the guys who compell your government to want to block them?

Like 4chan.

I'm not just throwing 4chan out there for personal reasons, 4chan is well known for doing poo they shouldn't be. Massive pirating, internet bullying, child pornography, even "raids". Which domestic terrorism but cooler basically.


There's even some speculation that the next raid will involve sending emails to anyone who lives in Australlia "Simpsons porn" based on the whole scandal of that guy getting arrested for Simpsons porn because it constituted as child pornography. So they're going to send child porn to everyone they can find that lives in Australlia and stirup a bunch of poo.

And why?

"For the lulz". IE: Just for the sake of doing it and being an ass.


No surprise, most of the people that go 4chan are either American or English.

Title: Re: Is anyone concerned about internet filtering plan?
Post by Swathe on Jan 24th, 2009 at 5:51pm
I am an immense hater of 4chan and similar boards. I am a computer gamer and an IT professional, so I am familiar with the environment and mannerisms on the internet. This filtering is something I am strongly against.

1. It will be easy to circumvent via the aforementioned use of proxy servers.
2. The speed of the internet access will be adversely affected.
3. Our tax dollars being used to implement a system that will be a miserable failure.

Internet censorship is a touchy subject, but I believe this is not the answer to the problem of child porn etc.

Title: Re: Is anyone concerned about internet filtering plan?
Post by muso on Jan 24th, 2009 at 9:48pm
I'm not sure how the people responsible for Internet Censorship would stand in terms of liability. The people actually conducting illegal activities would probably not use such media as web sites. They would probably use encrypted transmissions and peer to peer networks, so they would miss the people that it's intended for. Then how on earth could they cope with transmissions such as streaming video, audio and even VOIP transmissions, which could easily be used to transfer embedded files of any description. The trouble is that they would use more and more sophisticated techniques which would make them much more difficult to detect.

Then there is the fact that no matter what they do, it will not be 100% effective. So if educational establishments etc relied on such a system and it failed, surely they could sue?

Title: Re: Is anyone concerned about internet filtering plan?
Post by nabru on Jan 25th, 2009 at 9:14am
"Is anyone concerned about internet filtering plan?"

You bet I am!!  and so we all should, imo.
Baby steps toward a much broader censorship.  

Title: Re: Is anyone concerned about internet filtering plan?
Post by Swathe on Jan 25th, 2009 at 3:01pm
I will not be allowing myself to become subject to this filtering.

Title: Re: Is anyone concerned about internet filtering plan?
Post by Amadd on Jan 25th, 2009 at 6:33pm

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Baby steps toward a much broader censorship.


More like a quantum leap. They'll control it all without our knowledge.

I'll be trying out the anonymous proxy server.

Title: Re: Is anyone concerned about internet filtering plan?
Post by Bob George on Jan 26th, 2009 at 8:07pm
I'm very concerned about the Internet censorship plan. Does the government really think an Internet filter will stop child pornography? Child porn is not hosted on the Internet. That would be stupid. To avoid getting caught, pedophiles trade child pornography over P2P networks. So any sort of filter that blocks websites containing references to "child porn" or any similar string of letters will be ineffective in preventing child pornography. Once again our liberties are being curbed in an effort to stop something that cannot be prevented. You want to stop porn and terrorism by filtering out websites that contain references to "boobs" or "bombs"? Don't be ridiculous. And to do so with no regard at all for the freedoms and liberties of Australians is preposterous. I think Rudd has been hanging out with his Mandarin-speaking Chinese Communist buddies too much.


Title: Re: Is anyone concerned about internet filtering plan?
Post by freediver on Jan 26th, 2009 at 10:02pm
Welcome to OzPolitic Bob.

Title: Re: Is anyone concerned about internet filtering plan?
Post by Bob George on Jan 26th, 2009 at 10:14pm

freediver wrote on Jan 26th, 2009 at 10:02pm:
Welcome to OzPolitic Bob.

thank you

Title: Re: Is anyone concerned about internet filtering plan?
Post by strange allegiance on Jan 31st, 2009 at 12:49am
Hi All, back again (been busy)

Internet filtering?  --  scary stuff!

"The contents of the list are secret - it cannot even be obtained under Freedom of Information thanks to modifications to the FOI Act."

http://www.efa.org.au/2008/11/15/filtering-pilot-and-acma-blacklist-not-just-illegal-material/

http://www.getup.org.au/campaign/SaveTheNet/442

Title: Re: Is anyone concerned about internet filtering plan?
Post by Blasko on Jan 31st, 2009 at 8:04pm
We should all be concerned, any complacency on our part will inevitably lead to further erosion of rights. Down with this crazy scheme.

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