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I do not believe free will is freedom

hahahahhahahaha
LACK of free will is freedom then ????????

typical brainwashed blinkered muslim

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 15^th, 2008 at 1:22am:

Quote: I do not believe free will is freedom hahahahhahahaha LACK of free will is freedom then ???????? typical brainwashed blinkered muslim

Funny that, because i said the exact opposite on another forum just yesterday.

I dont think free will necessarily results in freedom. Example, Muslim woman walking to the ATM to take some money out. She has the will and freedom to exercise this right. However on the way to the ATM she gets verbally abused by some racist bigots. Now, she may no longer feel safe or free because of the change in circumstance.

Perspective and hindsight is a good thing. Hopefully, when you mature one day, you will discover these things

Mademoiselle wrote on Nov 15^th, 2008 at 6:55pm:

I dont think free will necessarily results in freedom. Example, Muslim woman walking to the ATM to take some money out. She has the will and freedom to exercise this right. However on the way to the ATM she gets verbally abused by some racist bigots. Now, she may no longer feel safe or free because of the change in circumstance. Perspective and hindsight is a good thing. Hopefully, when you mature one day, you will discover these things

I see what you mean. Family is flying to see grandma, muslims get on plane, blow it up. Family not so safe and free now, are they, because of change in circumstances.
So what use is democracy and freedom? Useless. Perspective and hindesight are good things indeed.
Still all ahead for you, girl.

yeah...  guy goes to the movies, sittting on his own in an almost empty cinema.

6 Muslim Lebanese sit behind him.  They talk incessantly, kick the back of his chair.  Jaffas hit him in the back of the head, laughter ensues.  Rubbish comes at him from behind.  Feet appear either side of him...

Not exactly a pleasant experience.

He turns and has a word to them...  They get aggro and 2 pull out knives and threaten him...  he leaves.

mademoiselle - i last heard that line of logic at primary school.

you would prefer it if the muslim woman had no money or was not allowed out without her husband or some authorised man ??
As is in some other MUSLIM country ??

Mademoiselle wrote on Nov 15^th, 2008 at 6:55pm:

I dont think free will necessarily results in freedom. Example, Muslim woman walking to the ATM to take some money out. She has the will and freedom to exercise this right. However on the way to the ATM she gets verbally abused by some racist bigots. Now, she may no longer feel safe or free because of the change in circumstance. Perspective and hindsight is a good thing. Hopefully, when you mature one day, you will discover these things

Mademoiselle,

I hear what you are saying.

And such behaviour is reprehensible.
....[i.e. on the way to the ATM she gets verbally abused by some racist bigots.]





Mademoiselle,

If some ppl within this [non-muslim] community hold muslims in so low a regard, maybe , just maybe, part of the reason for that is because of what muslims say and do,
.....AND IS NOT EXCLUSIVELY BECAUSE ALL NON-MUSLIMS ARE RACIST BIGOTS ????

Maybe you need to look within your own soul, to determine why you, and yours, are hated and despised [if that is your experience] ???


Or, are you just another muslim propagandist, engrossed in your own 'victimhood'???
.....and how well that line will play, in a forum such as this?



You mentioned bigots,

Dictionary,
bigot = = a person who is intolerant of the opinions of others.





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ARE YOU AWARE OF HOW INTOLERANT [BIGOTED!] MUSLIMS ARE, OF NON-MUSLIMS.....
.....WITHIN SOME SHARIA JURISDICTIONS,


IN THIS FORUM,
.....WOULD YOU LIKE TO CONDEMN THE ACTIONS OF THESE MUSLIMS [below], AS WICKED ????


Sharia persecution of non-muslims, TODAY....

articles...

Monday June 09, 2008
JORDAN: COURT ANNULS CHRISTIAN CONVERT’S MARRIAGE
"By leaving Islam, ‘apostate’ loses right because he ‘has no creed.’.....
....The North Amman Sharia Court in April dissolved the marriage of Mohammad Abbad, on trial for apostasy, or leaving Islam.
The 40-year-old convert fled Jordan with his wife and two young children in March after another Christian convert’s relatives attacked Abbad’s family in their home and his father demanded custody of Abbad’s children.
Marriage depends on the creed [religion], and the apostate has no creed, a May 22 court document stated, detailing reasons for the April 22 annulment. According to the document, Judge Faysal Khreisat had proven the veracity of [Abbad’s] apostasy."
http://www.compassdirect.org/en/display.php?page=news&lang=en&length=long&idelement=5420

June 05, 2008
INDONESIA: ISLAMISTS THREATEN TO KILL CHURCH LEADER
.....Yesterday’s confrontation by the Muslim extremist FPI was the latest in a series of threats.
http://www.compassdirect.org/en/display.php?page=news&lang=en&length=long&idelement=5417&backpage=&critere=&countryname=&rowcur=


Egypt Rules Christian Convert Must Remain Legally Muslim
Feb. 03 2008
An Egyptian judge ruled this week in an unprecedented case that a Muslim who converted to Christianity cannot legally change his religious status....
.....Muhammad Hegazy, 25, lost his case on Tuesday when Judge Muhammad Husseini of a court in Cairo said according to sharia, or Islamic law, Islam is the final and most complete religion and therefore Muslims already practice full freedom of religion and cannot convert to an older belief (Christianity or Judaism),
.....The judge didn’t listen to our defense, and we didn’t even have a chance to talk before the court, said Gamel Eid, head of the Arab Network for Human Rights Information (ANHRI) to U.S. Copts Association.
http://www.christianpost.com/article/20080203/egypt-rules-christian-convert-must-remain-legally-muslim.htm




MALAYSIA....

Church demolished in Muslim-run state
June 19 2007
http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=126&art_id=nw20070619141302153C420344


16 May 2006
Malaysia is considering its multi-cultural credentials after a crowd of Muslims on Sunday broke up a meeting called to defend the rights of religious minorities.
......."I'm becoming an alien in Malaysia, in my own country," says Dr Jacob George.
......"There's a creeping Islamicisation in our society and this isn't appropriate because we're a multi-religious, multi-racial country."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4965580.stm


Destruction of Non-Muslim Worship Centers Riles Faith Minorities in Malaysia
By Sean Yoong for AP:
April 01, 2007
http://christianpost.com/article/20070330/26613_Destruction_of_Non-Muslim_Worship_Centers_Riles_Faith_Minorities_in_Malaysia.htm






THIS IS NOT AN EXHAUSTIVE LIST.
....JUST A SMALL SAMPLE.