Post by Yadda on Nov 12th, 2008 at 8:41am
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Within ISLAM - does deception become *self*-deception???
Within a culture of wholesale deception, and with a doctrine of deception [Taqiyya], do muslims at times become the victims [literally] of their own deceptions, against the 'enemies of Allah'???
The answer seems to be a resounding YES!!!
ISLAM - does deception become *self*-deception???
Within muslim communities, is there a danger that muslims begin to believe their own propaganda, and what is TRUTH, and what is lies, becomes a blur of incomprehensibility?
Example #1
The Lie [deception].....
"ISLAM is a religion of peace."
The consequence of believing this lie, for a muslim woman in the UK.....
November 10, 2008
Jihadists flout UK's hate speech laws
"Islamic radicals make mockery of hate laws,"
".....When a woman in a burkha asked how he could justify this when Islam was supposed to be a religion of peace, the crowd mocked her. But it was Choudary who rose to put her in her place. "Islam is not a religion of peace," he said. "It is a religion of submission. We need to submit to the will of Allah." "
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/023451.php
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23584232-details/Islamic%20radicals%20make%20mockery%20of%20hate%20laws/article.do
No doubt, the brothers think this was amusing?
"Just a silly, silly, woman.
Dumb female, who believed our lies!
What do you expect from a woman, with half the mental capacity of a brother [man]."
:D
Example #2
The Lie [deception].....
'We Hate Muslims!'
- poster put up at George Washington University - BY A MUSLIM PROPAGANDIST.
....i think that they used to call them 'agent provocatures'.
The consequence for muslims, of believing this lie.....
These posters were produced, and put up, BY A MUSLIM, at George Washington University.
This muslim did this, with a specific intent.
To stifle debate about ISLAM, and to portray critical debate about ISLAM as hateful.
Finally, after many muslims described the posters as an expression of hate against muslims, it was discovered that,
"....a Muslim student actually admitted putting up the fake posters - - it was satire, he said."
But in any case, because of this 'incident', many muslims were able to portray themselves as 'hate victims'.
Phony 'Satirical' Anti-Muslim Posters Circulated at GWU [George Washington University]
Tue, Oct 9, 2007
At George Washington University, another outrageous action by the Saudi-funded radical Islamic front group calling itself the Muslim Student Association
.....Posters appeared all over the George Washington University campus yesterday morning blaring the message: "HATE MUSLIMS? SO DO WE!!!"
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=27430_Phony_Satirical_Anti-Muslim_Posters_Circulated_at_GWU#comments
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If it is possible for me, to quickly find these two particular incidents, of muslims becoming the dupes of their own 'hate' propaganda, against non-muslims, and of ISLAMIC lies falsely portraying ISLAM as a meritorious, peaceful philosophy, isn't it likely that these type of repercussions [muslims becoming the dupes of their own 'hate' propaganda] are being spread much further, within muslim communities than anyone knows?
Wake up people!!!
ISLAM - a *political* philosophy which promotes its own 'victimhood', and at the same time promotes hatred and violence against non-muslims.
ISLAM is,
.....EVIL,
.....A DANGER TO ALL CIVIL SOCIETY,
.....AND IS AN ORGANISATION WHICH PROMOTES INTER-COMMUNAL VIOLENCE.
++++++++
From the Koran....
"O ye who believe! Take not into your intimacy those outside your ranks: They will not fail to corrupt you. They only desire your ruin: Rank hatred has already appeared from their mouths: What their hearts conceal is far worse. We have made plain to you the Signs, if ye have wisdom."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/003.qmt.html#003.118
"O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell,- an evil refuge indeed."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/009.qmt.html#009.073
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/066.qmt.html#066.009
"Unbelievers are unto you open enemies."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/004.qmt.html#004.101
"Fighting [against unbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/002.qmt.html#002.216
"The believer who dies fighting in Allah's cause against the unbelievers, will go to the Gardens of Paradise. ISLAM is peace."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/004.qmt.html#004.120
Actually, that last Koran verse may be in error.
Within ISLAM - does deception become *self*-deception???
Within a culture of wholesale deception, and with a doctrine of deception [Taqiyya], do muslims at times become the victims [literally] of their own deceptions, against the 'enemies of Allah'???
The answer seems to be a resounding YES!!!
ISLAM - does deception become *self*-deception???
Within muslim communities, is there a danger that muslims begin to believe their own propaganda, and what is TRUTH, and what is lies, becomes a blur of incomprehensibility?
Example #1
The Lie [deception].....
"ISLAM is a religion of peace."
The consequence of believing this lie, for a muslim woman in the UK.....
November 10, 2008
Jihadists flout UK's hate speech laws
"Islamic radicals make mockery of hate laws,"
".....When a woman in a burkha asked how he could justify this when Islam was supposed to be a religion of peace, the crowd mocked her. But it was Choudary who rose to put her in her place. "Islam is not a religion of peace," he said. "It is a religion of submission. We need to submit to the will of Allah." "
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/023451.php
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23584232-details/Islamic%20radicals%20make%20mockery%20of%20hate%20laws/article.do
No doubt, the brothers think this was amusing?
"Just a silly, silly, woman.
Dumb female, who believed our lies!
What do you expect from a woman, with half the mental capacity of a brother [man]."
:D
Example #2
The Lie [deception].....
'We Hate Muslims!'
- poster put up at George Washington University - BY A MUSLIM PROPAGANDIST.
....i think that they used to call them 'agent provocatures'.
The consequence for muslims, of believing this lie.....
These posters were produced, and put up, BY A MUSLIM, at George Washington University.
This muslim did this, with a specific intent.
To stifle debate about ISLAM, and to portray critical debate about ISLAM as hateful.
Finally, after many muslims described the posters as an expression of hate against muslims, it was discovered that,
"....a Muslim student actually admitted putting up the fake posters - - it was satire, he said."
But in any case, because of this 'incident', many muslims were able to portray themselves as 'hate victims'.
Phony 'Satirical' Anti-Muslim Posters Circulated at GWU [George Washington University]
Tue, Oct 9, 2007
At George Washington University, another outrageous action by the Saudi-funded radical Islamic front group calling itself the Muslim Student Association
.....Posters appeared all over the George Washington University campus yesterday morning blaring the message: "HATE MUSLIMS? SO DO WE!!!"
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=27430_Phony_Satirical_Anti-Muslim_Posters_Circulated_at_GWU#comments
+++++++
If it is possible for me, to quickly find these two particular incidents, of muslims becoming the dupes of their own 'hate' propaganda, against non-muslims, and of ISLAMIC lies falsely portraying ISLAM as a meritorious, peaceful philosophy, isn't it likely that these type of repercussions [muslims becoming the dupes of their own 'hate' propaganda] are being spread much further, within muslim communities than anyone knows?
Wake up people!!!
ISLAM - a *political* philosophy which promotes its own 'victimhood', and at the same time promotes hatred and violence against non-muslims.
ISLAM is,
.....EVIL,
.....A DANGER TO ALL CIVIL SOCIETY,
.....AND IS AN ORGANISATION WHICH PROMOTES INTER-COMMUNAL VIOLENCE.
++++++++
From the Koran....
"O ye who believe! Take not into your intimacy those outside your ranks: They will not fail to corrupt you. They only desire your ruin: Rank hatred has already appeared from their mouths: What their hearts conceal is far worse. We have made plain to you the Signs, if ye have wisdom."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/003.qmt.html#003.118
"O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell,- an evil refuge indeed."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/009.qmt.html#009.073
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/066.qmt.html#066.009
"Unbelievers are unto you open enemies."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/004.qmt.html#004.101
"Fighting [against unbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/002.qmt.html#002.216
"The believer who dies fighting in Allah's cause against the unbelievers, will go to the Gardens of Paradise. ISLAM is peace."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/004.qmt.html#004.120
Actually, that last Koran verse may be in error.
