"How would an Arab or Muslim feel if the Koran was revised and had the words Jews and Christians removed and in their place the words Arabs and Muslims inserted? Allow me to quote from the Revised Edition of the Koran, which in part would read thusly:

"O believers, make war on the Arabs and Muslims who dwell around you. Let them find firmness in you." (Surah 9, Section 123)

"Fight those Arabs and Muslims who believe not in the God of Jacob even if they be People of the Book until they agree to pay the tribute in recognition of their submissive state." (Surah 9, Section 29)

"You will be called to fight a mighty nation of Arabs and Muslims; fight them until they embrace the God of Jacob." (Surah 48, Section 16)

"Then fight and slay the Arabs and Muslims wherever you find them. And seize them, beleaguer them and lie in wait for them, in every stratagem (of war)." (Surah 9, Section 5)

"Those who believe fight in the cause of the God of Jacob; And those who reject the true faith of the God of Jacob fight in the cause of Evil; So fight ye against the Arabs and Muslims, those Friends of Satan ...." (Surah 4, Section 10, Chapter 76)

"Take not the Arabs and Muslims as friends or protectors." (Surah 5, Section 8, Chapter 51)

"The Arabs and Muslims perverted the things they learned in the Covenant of the God of Jacob." (Surah 3, Section 19, Chapter 187)

"The God of Jacob has turned his face from Arabs and Muslims, and Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists and Atheists should do the same." (Surah 4, Section 7, Chapter 47)

For the last several weeks I have heard all the Arab and Muslim advocacy groups claim how their constituents are among the best Americans.
If that is the case, why then do they say nothing about the Koran's advocacy of violence against Jews and Christians?
The fact is some Arab Muslims are "true believers" of Islam, and are following the dictates of their religion.
Perhaps now is the time for Islamic clerics in America to stop spreading hatred and calls for war against Jews and Christians.
Edit the Koran and make amends with the Jews and Christians."


http://www.jdl.org/enemies/islam/revised_koran.shtml

Interesting one but, Sprint, it probably should be on Fringe board we always look for interesting material there.

tallowood wrote on Nov 10^th, 2008 at 8:12pm:

Interesting one but, Sprint, it probably should be on Fringe board we always look for interesting material there.

Interesting?lol...hardly, more like incoherent crap and rubbish.

First of all, that is the greatest selections of mistranslations Ive come across on the net (and they're are a fair bit of anti-Islamic sites out there). I'm not going to waste my time (I've already wasted to much on this nonsense) on every quote ,however, I suggest you look up Surah 9:23 from a reputable site, and you'll find that it is nothing like what mod:refer to members by their username, not derogatory nicknames  has posted.

9:23 "O ye who believe! take not for protectors your fathers and your brothers if they love infidelity above Faith: if any of you do so, they do wrong."

Compare this to the rubbish that mod:see above post claims for the very same verse....

"O believers, make war on the Arabs and Muslims who dwell around you. Let them find firmness in you."

Like really, this is absolute nonsense how wrong these people have got it, and is clearly nothing but lies and rubbish. I'm surprised that any of you take anything mod:see above Cyclist has to say seriously any more...with glaring mistakes (or deliberately misleading) posts like these, why do you fall for the same rubbish time and time again without doing at least some research.

Yadda's the same, however, he's just a troll who seeks to defeat you with his sheer quantity of crap that he cuts and pastes, and he deliberately makes it incoherent in order to make responding difficult. He deliberately makes it difficult to quote his posts, and for good reason as well.  

Interesting? About as interesting as watching grass grow...


Secondly, this mod:personal attack has just changed some words around and then claimed it as a 'revised Koran'.

Rather childish don't you think,and it doesn't surprise me that it took a child to post it.

On the Fringe we investigate everything as seriously as we can.

Les there are plenty of genuine questions about the Koran going unanswered on the Islam board.

freediver wrote on Nov 10^th, 2008 at 10:07pm:

Les there are plenty of genuine questions about the Koran going unanswered on the Islam board.

I've already told you FD, I am no longer going to waste my time answering your loaded questions, when you are unwilling (or incapable) to accepting our answers.

You want particular answers, our resident Islamophobe's are more then capable of giving you the answers you want to hear.

You don't want the truth, what you want is to bash Islam, and I for one will no longer be playing your petty games.

mod: personal attack
"Dad, what colour is the sky?"

"Blue"

"Why is it blue?"

"Something to do with refraction, prisms and water vapour"

"What does that mean?"

"STOP THE LOADED QUESTIONS! GO TO YOUR ROOM!"

easel wrote on Nov 11^th, 2008 at 9:51am:

mod: personal attack "Dad, what colour is the sky?" "Blue" "Why is it blue?" "Something to do with refraction, prisms and water vapour" "What does that mean?" "STOP THE LOADED QUESTIONS! GO TO YOUR ROOM!"

My sons 2 1/2 and he's already got you covered by a fair margin, but thanks for your concern.

Attacking my kids now eh mod: I have warned you about this before in this very thread. do not manipulate members' names in order to insult them....real classy mate. :)

Look the original post is just a load of crap, it's all been shown as falsified verses, so anyone who continues arguing it is just arguing bovine faeces.

Lestat merely pointed this out, so why are you paying out on him? Because he ruined your little islam-bash fest?

Pathetic.

Lestat wrote on Nov 11^th, 2008 at 9:53am:

easel wrote on Nov 11th, 2008 at 9:51am: Les, how dumb are your kids going to be? "Dad, what colour is the sky?" "Blue" "Why is it blue?" "Something to do with refraction, prisms and water vapour" "What does that mean?" "STOP THE LOADED QUESTIONS! GO TO YOUR ROOM!" My sons 2 1/2 and he's already got you covered by a fair margin, but thanks for your concern. Attacking my kids now eh weasel....real classy mate. :)

Not your kids Lestat, just your arrogance, pig headedness and indoctrination. A question is hardly loaded if it is legitimate. You just find them loaded if they can't be answered in such a way as to disguise the true message behind Islam.

I'm not necessarily an Islam basher. I'll have a go at anything.

this topic is pointless and therefore closed